October 31, 2025 • 45 mins
This episode definitely wasn’t a snooze… We don’t even know what to believe anymore!
Erika is triggered watching Heather this episode, still haunted by Merce going in her mouth.
And Gretchen? Her comment about the drag brunch and calling Slade was not a great look...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Rough with myself Teddy mellon Camp.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I'm Erica Jane. Hello, miss Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, how's it going. It's going, it's going, it's going.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My do you get allergies? I do, okay, so they
affect my eyes more than anything. So I had like
the hardest time today. And I also I also ate
Chinese food yesterday and I think I like drownded in
soy sauce. So like my.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Eyes, everything feels puffy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Everything feels puffy and yucky. But I'm here, I'm excited
about it. So I want to jump right into this
because I was kind of blown away by this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was too and as snoozy and as you know,
we thought I thought we thought last week was.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
This was not No, this was not snoozy all this was.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. I'm going to need your help on a lot
of this because I have some thoughts and some questions
and maybe you can help me clarify and then just
some ideas. I don't I don't really know what to
I'm just going to start off by saying I don't
really know where what I'm believing at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, that's how I feel too.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, so let's.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Talk reunion looks after.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, let's do reunion looks after.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, well we'll do her. But the episode starts out,
Slade asks Gretcha and how she's feeling. Gretchen and says
she had a good cry and is mentally exhausted fighting
the same person who will never take accountability.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, I mean, it's both of you.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But isn't Yeah, I was going to say, isn't Gretchen
the one who kept bringing up the fight this season?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, I'm saying it's both she and Tamera back and forth,
So it's both of them. It's not just you know,
Gretchen one sided. And I can understand. You know, you
had a good cry and I mentally exhausted from watching them,
so you know what I mean. So I'm sure that
she's tired too. Yeah, does she do her own blowouts?
Because it's always good.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I want to know because that front bang is like
it's all away, it's banging and it's not. I I
just I need to know, Gretchen, are you blowing out
your own hair? But you know, calling Slade and I
get it, you know, but I'm exhausted to girl. But
your bangs are Your bangs are alive.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Your bangs are wide away. My dad used to call
wide awag. My dad, you know, remember back in like
the eighties when people would do their bangs and they
would like, oh, yes, stick straight up. Yes, he used
to call it scared hair.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He's right. And you know who did it the best
was Bon Jovi. And I think I may have some
scared hair out there too, and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm gonna be looking around off. Yeah, you know, I am.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Emily cries to Gina about how she feels horrible, like
a horrible mom being in Amster damn while Shane is
dealing with the kids at home, and especially because Shane
lost it on Luke.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes, yeah, I mean this is bound to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It is bound to happen. And also, you know, she's
not the This happens to all kinds of parents, every
every parent in the world. They're not there when you know,
something happens and the other parent is there alone, And
this is very par for the course for parenting.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have these things that come up,
and especially I feel like they come up more when
one parent is out of town, always, always, always, because
then I like, I remember when f I used to
travel a bunch, Like every time i'd go out of town,
I'd be like, oh shit, this is happening. Yep, you know,
(03:52):
and then you feel even worse because you're not there
and you feel like there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well there, Yeah you have to wait till you get
home or get on the phone and yeah, this is
you know, and you're doing this show in Amsterdam and
I know that Luke. They're very concerned about Luke. I
get it. I get it why Emily feels this way.
Gretchen and Tamor go on the swing together, which looked
I mean, I'm okay, I feel like throw each other
(04:21):
off at any time.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I know, I feel like Emily is working overtime trying
to get these two to reconcile. I have to give
it to her for that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I like that she's trying.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
She's trying real hard.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
She's trying real hard.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Real hard.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But while they're on the swing together, I was wondering.
I was like, so this is knowing what we know now?
Like after finishing the episode, I find this swing forced.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, I knew it. I know you so well, didn't you?
It was odd?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It was odd.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, like either we're mad or we're mad.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't know, yeah where they're mad or not mad.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I just know that I wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you'd be doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't think you'd be doing it either. Gina, Heather,
and Shannon takes shrooms to go to an indoor maze.
Gina says she felt bad for Gretchen the night before.
While Gina and Heather are Tate are talking, Shannon, here's
the Real Housewife's song, and no one else hears it. Okay,
have you ever taken shrooms?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I haven't, but I would be scared to take it
on camera.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right because you don't know what could come out? Yes,
but I guess like I like shrooms. I think they're
really This is gonna sound crazy, and you know, I
don't care. I think they're very therapeutic, you know, for
whatever it's worth. And I enjoyed that. I like it
(05:56):
that Heather let's you know. I like it that Heather
does this and Gina and Shannon and they're all good sports.
I think it's fun. I liked the maize. I thought
it was good art. I loved it that they showed
themselves and Shannon hearing the Real Housewives songs. I mean, listen,
I've heard of seeing some shit on shrooms that were
you know, it's certainly not a Housewives.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm hearing it right now just because we're talking.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, it's kind of ominous too. It's like, this is Halloween.
This is I don't know why it reminds me of that,
but it does. Jack Skellington, Uh, But I love the
fact that they took streams and went to an indoor maze.
This is something I would do. And they're all having
fun together, right, which I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Like, Yeah, they're having fun together. I did notice that
they do make a point to always show when Shannon
goes up in order to drink.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow, that got by me.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But yes, the other two girls are sitting. They showed that's.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Right, that's right. So she's still I don't know if
i'd be drinking on the shrooms. Maybe that's why she
heard the Housewives you know song. But yeah. Gretchen says
she's lost a lot of people in her life to cancer,
and she was hoping Tamara would feel bad for her
after dealing with Teddy. I just say something. I hate
(07:11):
it when you're brought up in this shit. I just
don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I just don't this moment, I did feel like Tamra
was being genuine with Gretchen when she said, I feel
for you and your friend, yeah who passed away.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I like it when they put the gard yeah, I
like it when they put the guard down.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And then I didn't really expect from my cancer to
bring tam and Gretchen together.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah. Well, I just I don't know. Yeah, I just
I don't like it when you're mentioned like that. I
don't know, it rubs me. I don't know, I feel
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Also, they kind of like pause before they say my
name each time, like Gretchen was like, so I thought
because of what was going on with Teddy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right I know, like they do they well listen, it's
a sensitive you're a sensitive subject, rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But either way, then Tamra suggests signing a friendship contract
with question there's a Slade memorandum this they pull up
on chatchebt or was it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It has to be it has to be a chat
GPT contract, which means it's null and void.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Tamra has to agree not to not mention Slade's finances, career.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Or existence that was kind of amazing or existence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I want to have a contract that says, don't mention
my existence.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Don't mention my existence. Shouldn't they have signed the contract?
As a viewer, I would have appreciated it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean I would have appreciated the no existence and
the you know, you know how I feel about that.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah. Then Tamar tells Gina that she knows s Gretching
is not a good person. Gina wants Scretching to make
her feel better about the post she likes, and then
Tamar asked Gina to not bring it up tonight. Save
it for the last night.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Girl, Oh my god, to anybody that's ever been close
to their ship, you know, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Bring it up more than.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bring it up tomorrow night before we go home, before
we all fly home.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Right, and she can take her own sprinter van.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's right. That kicked out with her fur wrap whatever.
And the bang was still good. Though the bang was
still bang was still thing. Is she doing that blowout herself?
I'm so I think I think she does it herself.
But it's good.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I think she's got that at going.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Whatever she's got going. Let me know, it doesn't move,
it doesn't move. It's very you know, and like I
get criticized for my shit, but it's very Toddlers and Tiras,
which was one of my favorite shows. I love Going
to Cancel me if you want. I love that fucking show.
It was so great just because it was so ridiculous. Uh,
(10:13):
but I feel like, yeah, like she's giving me that full.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
On Yeah, she's giving she's giving pageant. Mm hmm mm
hmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Love a pageant, Love a pageant, Love a pageant.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Then Emily goes with Heather to spread her dad's ashes.
They meet the current homeowner who lives in Heather's parents
old home to go in.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I thought this was lovely and how beautiful was that home?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That was a beautiful I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Like in the courtyard and it was gorgeous. So Heather
like wow, and the man was so nice like would
you like to come inside and film?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I actually believe it, Like I don't think that
was set up prior.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, I don't think so either. And I think that
it was really nice and he that was really kind
of him. So whoever you are, mister dutch Man, that
was really cool and I'm glad that they got to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Go in, I know, and you could feel it. And
then she's like, of course, the one time my mom
doesn't answer the phone.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right, I know, right, the one time? What that's the
way it goes. And it was besha, Heather, It was
beshare meant to be? And Heather doesn't want to hold
on to things anymore. She wants to do this as
a thank you to her dad. And then we see
her like, you know, with her.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Legs over on the side. Yeah, Emily scooting away.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I like that, you know, gave her her privacy. And
Emily was so cute. I know, Emily like giving her
her privacy. Now, I don't want to end this on
a on a tacky note, but I'm going to We
released some ashes on ours and it blew back on us.
(11:49):
So while Heather was having her moment, I was very
happy that nothing bad happened during that.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
There was no wind.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There was no wind because Merce got in my mouth.
You ate Merce, yes, a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And how does merce taste.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Like dust, like you know when you we know when
like this fine powdery mist of stuff like it was.
So I'm so happy that Heather had a civilized, lovely
moment with her dad, because I'm telling you, all I
could think of was God or Garcel got doused in
(12:33):
merce And she was such a good friend. She didn't
even like, really, you know, make a big deal about it.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What were your thoughts on her having first seat and Shannon,
a housewife having second seat.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I thought it was interesting, was interesting choice.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I was wondering if you saw that she requested that
in order.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
To be on I would imagine, so yeah, I would imagine,
so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Shannon brings up how Gretchen told her they were talking
about her behind her back. They said, no one will
want to be with her because she wears spanks and
the fat comes out like biscuits.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Okay, so they did say it just moves the fat around.
They did, right, They did say that it moves the
fat around, redistributes.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Distributes everything around.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Do you think it was like a malicious conversation that
they originally had.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Mean, look, we all everybody I Warren spanks, everybody's worn spanks,
Emily's not wrong. It does redistribute, and when you compress
certain pieces, other pieces pop over. It's like a popover.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But she Shannon always shows.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, then don't show us you're wearing spanks.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, don't show us. She shows the spanks, and then
she also but she said, she goes, I'm allowed to
make fun of myself, but I don't want other people
doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I understand that, but unfortunately that's the way it goes.
Like I mean, if all of us in the world, like, yes,
I can make fun of myself, but don't want you
doing it. But that's that's I get it. Like, you know,
I think we had something else on a previous episode
where I said, yeah, it's okay for Shannon to talk
about it, but not anyone else. I get it. And
but I think, you know, every one of us have
(14:28):
worn spanks. I wear skims now, I do. I like skims.
I fucking good shit.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I love I have skims brawn right, I love my skins.
Skims are but did you see the new skims.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's like a I don't want a seventies porn bush.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Seventies porn bush underwear. No thank you, spikes, but everything
else skims send my way, I mean skims send my way.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, we love skims.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
We love skim, love skins. I love that. Tamar and
Emily say that was taken out of context.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It really wasn't. Though it really wasn't. Bottom line is
you're wearing spanks and.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And then Gretchen tries to interject, and Emily tells Gretchen
to shut up or she will lose it on her.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I could see that. Well. I like it when Emily,
again I've said this before, I like it when Emily
gets heated, like she's really civil. You can see her
working it. And then she's like stop. Yeah, and yeah,
Gretchen just leave well enough alone, Like please just just
don't do this right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You brought it up, you did what you needed to do.
We're talking about it, she apologized. She's trying to apologize
to Shannon. Yeah, keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
When Shanna gets up to the bathroom, her price tag
is on her skirts. The price tag on her skirt
is out stick or honest?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I think in her case honest. I think the bike
riding might be stick.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh no, I thought the bike riding was very real.
See we have the reverse. I was like this chick
is going to crash on this bike because I looked
at how concerned everybody else was about it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I know. But here here's the problem that I'm
having when it comes to Emily in the situation, Like,
I love her, but after how she felt last year
about her body like shaming.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Season, Yeah it didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
One would think that you would be more cautious about
the things that you said.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yes, but no, I mean, who better than to make
fun of themselves than somebody who's had body issues.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I mean, but she's not making fun of herself. She's
making She's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Probably including herself in it though she feels like I've
had these issues, you know, there's like a kinship there.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Then say I wear spanks and but like and then
make the joke. But she didn't, No, she didn't. But
I would imagine if one of the other women made
that joke about her, it wouldn't go over very well.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I just I don't think so I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Thinking, but if I wear spanks and you wear spanks,
we're both in on the joke kind of thing, Like
does Emily wear spanks? I mean, well, she had the
body should be thinking said, let's okay, you know what
I mean. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah. Then the next day they go on the bike ride.
Would you think was real? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think Shannon like wobbling like that. Yeah, yeah, it
was a little I was. I was a nervous.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I was frightened.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I was frightened. And I think that like I think
it was like Jen was also like whoa, like wait
a second, yeah, and Gina right yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Then Jenna opens up about how she has thoughts if
she will feel.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Like enough, always feel enough, and Tamor tells Jen she
would like to see her establish herself financially, if she
will always feel enough enough for Ryan?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Right, yeah, well she yeah, because she said Ryan, what
did she say? Has like?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Uh, Ryan was a playboy, That's what Tamra said. And
he has I guess he has a lot of experience.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Has a has a They said something like was it
colorful past?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, I think you're right colorful translation up, Yeah, as
someone who's been called colorful.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, so has a colorful past. Jen says she appreciates
a conversation with Tamra without snark.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I thought, I mean I did think it was a
good conversation have I think that Jen is working through
a lot right now, like when it comes to getting married,
you know, like she's we don't see it, but I
feel like she has to be stressed.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh very much so, yeah, very much. So she's stressed.
Who isn't I know? I mean freaking stressed, right, That's
my point. We're all working through a lot here, But
I do. I did like it that Tamra engine I
did have that exchange without snark. Yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Then at their final dinner, Tamrabil she had crabs before
and was itching. Tamra thanks, I didn't need to find
out on the television show.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean yeah, she says her ex got it
from a toilet seat, but he must have been cheating. Yes,
you can't get wouldn't do dudes where.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I've never had crabs an aficionado on crabs, But doesn't
seem like something I would want.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I don't want any of that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
No, no, but.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Because well this is a no crab zone because I
don't have any hair.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, I mean we would know quickly, Yeah, we would.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's not going to stick. Tamra makes a toast to
the last night in Amsterdam and gets emotional about how
hard this year has been, and she thanks them for
being there and calls out Heather for helping her through
the dark times.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So there's got to be something that we're missing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You mean about the dark times or why she and
Heather are close or what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, like when everybody was that supportive of Tama. See
your mind goes blank.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
No, my mind is I'm actually looking back. Yeah, my
mind is blank.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, like they weren't that supportive of her.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It didn't feel like that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I don't feel like there was an episode where like
the girls were.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, she thanks them for being there and calls out
Heather for helping her. Maybe she's thanking them for being
there while she made the show.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I'm just reaching. I'm just reaching.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Then we you know, we know that Tarma originally had
told Gina about the LGBTQ, plus that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I Heart had given her that I okay, So.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Let me let me give you a little backstory here.
I am, I am, I am. Yeah, okay, So to
give you a little backstory, these posts have been.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Out there for years, quantified years.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Somebody actually tweeted me the thread after we discussed with iHeart,
and we chose not to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh, you guys chose not to talk Yeah, we chose
not to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, but I mean over a year ago. I saw
these right, twenty twenty three. Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Gretchen denies it. She thinks she is scrolling quickly and
liking it by accidents. Heather gets emotional, saying LGBTQ plus
youth are in danger right now. So just pause right there.
What's your first instinct when Gretchen denies it and says
she's scrolling quickly and liking it by accident.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I've called bs. Youre following these accounts.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Or they're coming up on your feed somehow? Know that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What we do know is the Instagram that they did
blur out said when you open the door to homosexuality,
you open the door to pedophilia.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's really strong. Yeah, that is that is not true.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Not only is it not true, she's she I don't
know if she still is, but she was following this
person yeah that wrote it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's not good. And then she liked the post that
post saying that, And whether.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's still liked or not, I would imagine she got
home from Amsterdam and deleted a lot of people that
she follows and a lot of likes. I can't imagine
accidentally liking something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
A really strong, like ugly thing, and it's not true.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And do people still scroll through Instagram and just like
things like.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I mean, I don't do you.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, But what comes up on my feet are mostly
my friends.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, you know, right, because it's because I followed that
to me.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But I also, I mean, does she really feel that way?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Well, she's claiming she doesn't because she had. She's kind
of silent when they confront her about it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, she was. I and you know, Emily brought up
like if somebody had said this about me and it
was a liar, I would have come across the table, which.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Is I have.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So I agree with Emily. She was taking it incredible,
and I thought, is her xenax kicking it? I'm not
saying that she's on xenax, but I am. That's how
I act. So she was remarkably calm in the middle
of this accusation, which I don't know. I mean, I
(24:08):
and you could tell it broke Heather's heart.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, I mean Heather's heart.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh yeah, no, No, she had the absolutely correct reaction
as someone who has children in the LGBTQ plus community
and had just done the thing for the Trevor Project.
I mean, like, this is very these are her kids,
and yes, right of course, and she's very concerned for
their safety and I get it. So she had the
(24:35):
appropriate reaction.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But I thought Gretchen getting up and calling Slade was bad.
In the middle of it, I was like, Okay, what
is going to be the repercussions of this?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, was it Shannon that called her out on that?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It was Jen?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That's right. Good good for you, Jen. She was right.
I'm sorry I gave it to Shannon, but good for you, Jen,
because you were right. She shouldn't be calling Slade right now.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that was not the time. That's not the time
to do this, because then it all makes everything else
to come feel like bs.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It makes it look like conspiracy. And they were going
to hit back, and like when Slade says I'm gonna
get that bitch or whatever or calls Tamera a bitch
or something.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Like that, yeah, like we're going to get her, and
then we see.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like and then we see the anonymous voice later on
I Yeah, this is where I start to get very
this is Look.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It really irritated me, and like, I didn't think I'm
surprised that they would show that last scene.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Are you surprised because everything else is always so out
in the open, Like if you have a screenshot, show
the screenshot if you have if you're like, let's take
in the case of Kiki Monique, who you know Katie
was talking to. Kiki showed up, yeah at least faced
and said no. So if the anonymous person is having
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their voice disguised, why that bothered me?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And where is this person now?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And where are these accounts and what is happening? Because
it what that does is it just it creates this
this weird like I don't trust anybody now, this is
just all weird. I find weird, isn't the right?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I find it odd that they go on this trip
to Amsterdam, this is released about Gretchen, Gretchen, and then
they come back and then all of a sudden they
two weeks after you know, we're going to get her,
and then this all happens, right, and now we see
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in the trailer that Gretchen says I spent thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
She said that, Yeah, I spent thousands of dollars trying
to find out who this was. The other thing is
and someone pointed out to me, I'm not going to
say who. Someone pointed out to me there were no
leaks throughout the season from Tamera. Yeah, where are the
leaks or if there were, we don't know about them yet,
not saying, but I'm just saying we know right now,
(27:01):
from what we know right now, there were no leaks
from Tamera.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, and any of that stuff that was shared, nothing
was interesting. Like it was like Teddy and Erica went
to lunch.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, you no, like nothing nothing, No bombs were being dropped. Yeah,
well the biblical thing, like when Jen says, is it
something biblical? I Heather's reaction, Yeah, I mean not that.
I was just I don't think I've ever seen Heather.
(27:44):
It was she angry, and I'm like, I mean I
think she was angry, upset. She was upset, clearly, But
is it something biblical? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
What you what is Jen getting at there?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is this I think she's the Bible in your faith?
Is this how you feel?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah? I think she was trying to say is it
because of you know, your faith?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Your faith, I think, I mean which obviously, Jen, I
don't want to speak for you because whatever, But I'm
just trying to understand what I saw, and I think
Gretchen's response was no, right now.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Greshian's response was something like, I had a drag brunch
at my house once.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm sorry, it's true.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I had a drag brunch. What are you talking about?
Drag queens entertaining in my house. We have mimosas, we
have bottomless mimosas. I mean, my god, I.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Can never do such a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, I could never do such a thing. I
had a drag brunch, for Christ's sake, my god, that
you're right about that, the drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I can't. I can't. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What are we doing with our lives?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I don't know. I was like, I spit up my pedialyte.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I was, But I had a drag brunch, so everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Don't remember seventeen years ago when I went.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
To a drag brunch. I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I had a drag brunch? My god, never in my life.
I really need to reassess with.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I needed a good laugh.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Dragon, I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
This is impossible.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
This is.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I lashed back to Gretchen eighty six years ago, right
to drag run.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
She does like to hold onto things.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She had a good glow. Then still she had a
good blow too.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
My gosh, she was kind of a pioneered drug brunches.
Maybe she has a point. Maybe she has a point.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I don't know, but I feel when she.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Chok on it timeline of this drag.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Brunch, it definitely was over ten years ago with our lives.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I don't knows.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Well that makes it all okay? Then well, clearly sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Heather's like, oh I forgot about that drag brunch. Okay,
we're going back to back to this. That doesn't delete
all of your tweets, And like, what do you say?
I don't know, Yeah, what is she trying to say?
Oh my god, what is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Drag brunch?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But there's no okay, because there's no way it's as
shocked as Gretchen seemed. There's absolutely no way Gretchen and
Slade didn't know these were out there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
If that's why she was ready with the drag brunch
that she was prepared. She's like, you know what when
she says this, you say drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You're not a member of You're you said all these things,
you like them. What are you talking about at a
drag brunch? Like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
H Well, Then, as Gretchen and Heather start to have
more of a conversation and Heather asked her to prove
it's not true, that's when this is the part that's weird.
This is when Heather Gretchen goes to call Slade to
tell him, out of all moments, to tell him this
is the time you choose.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
But she's on the phone, she's on the FaceTime with
him all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well then he says, and I quote Slade's says, this
is coming from that lying bitch who made comments about
me looking gay and sandals. Those were terrible sandals.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Those were terrible. That's a straight man.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, they're called mandals.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
They're called awful.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, but oh my god, you I kind of feel like,
you know, like I felt it in this moment. I'm like,
the retaliation from this is going to.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Be well, this is just to here we go, we're
whipping the we're whipping it back up again. Yeah, and
you know, but I had to think, you know, like
Gretchen coming back on the show, knowing that those things
were out there, you do realize that all of this
is coming, which is why I think she was prepared
with the drag brunch comment from nineteen thousand years ago.
(32:47):
And you know this lying bitch. Oh God, please don't
call women the.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I just I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Did you go back and watch it?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yes, I went back and watched it. We went back
and watched. So back in the day when we were on,
when I was on Beverly Hills, Erica is still on.
But back in the day when we were on, we
had like an incident with Aaron.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Who got arrested for domestic violence in court not too
long ago with Denise.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yes, he what was he even mad at us about?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think we were asking Denise questions again about I
don't know if the Brandy thing had come up yet
or not. I had a feeling it. Had it had,
you would know better because I've kind of blocked it out. Yeah,
But whatever it was, Oh, maybe it was because she
didn't want us to be around the kids, or she
would have never brought her kids, remember, to the to
(33:49):
Kyle's home, And I think this was kind of the
continuation of that. And I can see me say, He's like,
I'll you know, stop, you need to cut it out.
And he said something. I was like, do you want
to go there?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Like he's like do you want to go?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And like lean like leaned in and like like I
and I when I saw it, That's why I told
you go back and watch it because you can feel
it all over again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, you can feel and we felt uncomfortable in the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
In the moment, you can see us looking like are
you doing.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, because whatever we were fighting about wasn't that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It was something like well, and then in our sit
downs because it was that COVID and was like the
last time I was at my house, you can see
me say, well, Denise can stand up for herself. She
got herself into this group. She can talk for herself.
We don't need Aaron there like getting in our face
over something that Denise said or did not say.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know, I just I have all these visuals of
him always just there with like whatever brown drink he
was drinking all the day, the dark lickor yeah, the
dark lickor and just telling us that he could cure.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Cancer cancer and threatening us at the same time. I mean,
it was really it.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean he was a real gem. I mean God, Okay,
so back.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
To these gems, yep, back to these oranges. Jen tells
Gretchen that calling slave was the worst move she could
have made, and Gretchen cries, saying she didn't know why
they could do this to her. She says, they are
making her out to be something she is not. Look,
this is hard to watch, just because it's just hard
to watch. And you know, when you've been in these
(35:29):
dramatic sprinter van blowouts, you know, you know how it is.
And then in the car on the airport the next morning,
Gina says Gretchen does follow these accounts, but can't find
the posts she actually liked.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I have a feeling Gretchen might have stayed up late
that night. She had a lot of things to unlike.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
But why wouldn't you have done that before you come
on the show. Why didn't Gina check the likes and
the accounts two weeks ago? Yeah, when told her. Why
didn't Tamra have it or why didn't Tamra screen shot it?
Or why didn't This is what I This is where
I think there is screenshots. Yeah, but I need them,
like I need to be the one that got them.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, I need to see them. But they were blurred out.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But I'm just saying, like, if that's what I was
going to do, I want them to I I personally
need to know that I did it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I know if I was Gretchen, I'd be like, show me, right,
show me what you got. But did Gretchen ever even
say that. No, Gretchen never asked to see it because
she knew it exists.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, well, of course she knows it exists.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Like, so why would she say to give me proof?
She doesn't want the proof because the proof is going
to hurt her.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, isn't she saying that she did not do this?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Clearly, Heather says, Gretchen has always been kind to her
and would hate to ever accuse someone of something that's
not true. That's sounds very Heather, like, I get that,
and I agree. And then Jen says, Tarmah planted it
with Gina and it worked. I mean, yeah, but it
(37:11):
wasn't anything new, it was something that was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And they probably all knew already.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Probably. Yeah, Gina says, all they do is bring up
shit on the internet to destroy each other.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
She's right, that's what a lot of them do. And
that's what I mean across the board house. You can't
just say Orange County. I would say a lot of
people dig up stuff just to talk about.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, that's what these shows. I mean, The coffee Maker
and the Haitian. Mortician's not the Haitian. Are you reviewing
that show? Yeah, it's genius.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So good, it's genius.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I now need to watch that show. Yeah, it's probably
good for that, Like I now.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Need to watch You need to watch Miami like that. Yep,
you need to watch Salt Lake City too.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Guys. I do this job. I don't need any more
mental breakdowns. Like listen, I start to get like, I
start to feel a certain way when I watch this show.
I'm like, oh God, here it comes. I'm anticipating the
fucking you know, the next move. I can just see
it coming.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You can feel it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I can feel it coming.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Well, we love when it says after production wrapped, some
of the women receive dms from a person with information
about the show.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Which was not shown, which is not known to the public.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Gina got a DM about Tamor leaking details about the
stuff to bloggers and fan pages. They call a man
his voices disguise. He says stuff that did get filmed
during the season and was correct. The women are upset
with Tamor. They think she will hurt anyone in leak information. Okay,
So I'm a little bit confused by this. Why would
a random Instagram account all of a sudden decide to
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contact the women after filming stopped and then agree to
be on a call but have their.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Voice disguise, And why would you reach out to several
of the women?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, and I don't know. This feels very like let's
deflect me, Like, okay, this is a perfect thing for
Gression and Slade to do.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well. Yeah, because after production wrapped.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, now they got their ducks.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So if you know all this stuff, how do you
know that you know it's gone bad and you need
to come after Tamra now, Yeah, Like why are you?
It's just it doesn't make sense to me. Also, I
would have liked for the voice not to be disguised,
and I need to see the screenshots of all the
women that receive these dms.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, I want to see all these messages.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, where are they coming from?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Even the account name was because.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
All the people that watch are gonna blow that account up.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Something and somebody, you know, like, listen, we know how
these we know how the Bravo versus. Yeah, is it
better than the FB?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I mean it's great, it's great, but also why is
it blurred?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I don't like that. The Yeah, if you got information
and you want to come out, come on out.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, but then you got to do yeah, you're right,
you got to do it the way kid.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, Kiki came on. This is it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I mean we didn't love it.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, I have respect for that, Yeah, as opposed to this,
which could be anything and everything. And now we're left
as an audience only pointing to Slade and Gretchen. Who
is this person?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Who is this person? And also, if you're going to
leak information to somebody else to share, it should be
interesting stuff. Yeah, not just Hey they you know this
is what they went to lunch and coast to Mesa.
Anybody and their mother could that.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Could be anybody. Yeah, I mean, or when Tamra quit
in New Orleans. There was something about that, the quitting.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm not sure that it's a
big surprise when that Tamar quit, because I mean she
posted about it in real time. Yes, so yeah, I
don't know is that considered leaking if you post in
real time?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think it's considered broadcasting. Yeah, so I don't know.
What do you feel about all of this?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I feel like the reunion is going to be ugly. Ugly, yeah,
because there's so much. I mean, I was even watching
something with Bryce. Yeah, so Gina's talking to Bryce. She's
saying the reason why they're having such issues with Katie
is because Katie never tried to be a friend.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh no, it was Emily. I'm sorry, Emily. It was
Emily on this interview that said the reason they didn't
they had issues with Katie she never tried to be
friends with women. She wanted to be friends with bloggers
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
But this is the first I've heard that. You would
think somebody who was on a show and they were
not being nice to you or you didn't feel like
they wanted to be your friend, they would say, hey,
you know, what, make an effort with us? You're never
making an effort.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
But how do you know? It wasn't said and they
just wasn't shown.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I feel like they were really needing things to be
shown earlier on. And if that was said, I feel
like it would have been.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Like yeah, but maybe Emily speaking in hindsight and saying,
you know what I mean when you look back at it,
she never really tried to be friends with us. She
only tried to befriend outside sources or bloggers. What else
can we call these people? Can call them something else
besides bloggers?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
What? I hate that word?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Can someone give us a new word?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Just like?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
What do we call them? Content creators? Let's let's call
them that? Like you're trying to be friends with content
creators that run accounts and you know, instead of forging
relationships with us, which makes us very distrustful of you, Katie.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
But maybe they weren't very welcoming.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well who is? Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna go
with that. Like we all know the game and I'm
sure you're gonna think I'm a lovely person this year?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Who's your favorite reunion? Look?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Well, by this, I can't really tell I know, I
don't know, but all the silhouettes look good. All the
girls look nice.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, they all look They all look good.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Gina, Jina look great.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Gina looks amazing up here on the top.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, yeah, that looks nice on her.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
She looked so good. Is this Gretchen looks like your
favorite Toddlers and tiaras.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
But I mean the silhouette is right.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I think, how can the selwod not be right?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I know she's very thin and long. Yeah, I mean
everybody looks like themselves.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
A lot of them are doing my post with the
one arm.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know, your pose is legendary. Hey, how much fun
did we have the other night?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
It didn't I know, we we had so much fun
at dinner. We went to dinner me Erica, Renna and
Kyle and it was so fun.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm so glad you got out.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I know. It was one of my like only dinners.
I very rarely go out like past three pm.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
So we got you out and we had a good time.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, we went out. We had fun. We laughed, no
one cried, no fighting.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
We had no fighting, and I think we just laughed
at each other. Yeah, and the ridiculousness of our lives.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, and we That's when I told Renda that I'm
slowly but surely my hair is morphing into hers.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Well, you could have a legendary look.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I know I'm going to steal her look. Really, I
feel like I'm a couple months out from being able
to pull off the Renna.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The shag, the Sally Hirschburger shag.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, I need to zip over to Sally Hirshberger get her.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Oh, thank you, but it was so fun. All right,
thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of Diamonds
in the Ruck. We'll be back next week to recap
the reunion.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I'm me too.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be good. All right, bye guys,
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Rough with myself Teddy mellon Camp.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I'm Erica Jane. Hello, miss Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, how's it going. It's going, it's going, it's going.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My do you get allergies? I do, okay, so they
affect my eyes more than anything. So I had like
the hardest time today. And I also I also ate
Chinese food yesterday and I think I like drownded in
soy sauce. So like my.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Eyes, everything feels puffy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Everything feels puffy and yucky. But I'm here, I'm excited
about it. So I want to jump right into this
because I was kind of blown away by this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was too and as snoozy and as you know,
we thought I thought we thought last week was.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
This was not No, this was not snoozy all this was.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. I'm going to need your help on a lot
of this because I have some thoughts and some questions
and maybe you can help me clarify and then just
some ideas. I don't I don't really know what to
I'm just going to start off by saying I don't
really know where what I'm believing at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, that's how I feel too.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, so let's.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Talk reunion looks after.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, let's do reunion looks after.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, well we'll do her. But the episode starts out,
Slade asks Gretcha and how she's feeling. Gretchen and says
she had a good cry and is mentally exhausted fighting
the same person who will never take accountability.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, I mean, it's both of you.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But isn't Yeah, I was going to say, isn't Gretchen
the one who kept bringing up the fight this season?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, I'm saying it's both she and Tamera back and forth,
So it's both of them. It's not just you know,
Gretchen one sided. And I can understand. You know, you
had a good cry and I mentally exhausted from watching them,
so you know what I mean. So I'm sure that
she's tired too. Yeah, does she do her own blowouts?
Because it's always good.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I want to know because that front bang is like
it's all away, it's banging and it's not. I I
just I need to know, Gretchen, are you blowing out
your own hair? But you know, calling Slade and I
get it, you know, but I'm exhausted to girl. But
your bangs are Your bangs are alive.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Your bangs are wide away. My dad used to call
wide awag. My dad, you know, remember back in like
the eighties when people would do their bangs and they
would like, oh, yes, stick straight up. Yes, he used
to call it scared hair.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He's right. And you know who did it the best
was Bon Jovi. And I think I may have some
scared hair out there too, and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm gonna be looking around off. Yeah, you know, I am.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Emily cries to Gina about how she feels horrible, like
a horrible mom being in Amster damn while Shane is
dealing with the kids at home, and especially because Shane
lost it on Luke.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes, yeah, I mean this is bound to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It is bound to happen. And also, you know, she's
not the This happens to all kinds of parents, every
every parent in the world. They're not there when you know,
something happens and the other parent is there alone, And
this is very par for the course for parenting.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have these things that come up,
and especially I feel like they come up more when
one parent is out of town, always, always, always, because
then I like, I remember when f I used to
travel a bunch, Like every time i'd go out of town,
I'd be like, oh shit, this is happening. Yep, you know,
(03:52):
and then you feel even worse because you're not there
and you feel like there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well there, Yeah you have to wait till you get
home or get on the phone and yeah, this is
you know, and you're doing this show in Amsterdam and
I know that Luke. They're very concerned about Luke. I
get it. I get it why Emily feels this way.
Gretchen and Tamor go on the swing together, which looked
I mean, I'm okay, I feel like throw each other
(04:21):
off at any time.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I know, I feel like Emily is working overtime trying
to get these two to reconcile. I have to give
it to her for that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I like that she's trying.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
She's trying real hard.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
She's trying real hard.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Real hard.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But while they're on the swing together, I was wondering.
I was like, so this is knowing what we know now?
Like after finishing the episode, I find this swing forced.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, I knew it. I know you so well, didn't you?
It was odd?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It was odd.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, like either we're mad or we're mad.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't know, yeah where they're mad or not mad.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I just know that I wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you'd be doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't think you'd be doing it either. Gina, Heather,
and Shannon takes shrooms to go to an indoor maze.
Gina says she felt bad for Gretchen the night before.
While Gina and Heather are Tate are talking, Shannon, here's
the Real Housewife's song, and no one else hears it. Okay,
have you ever taken shrooms?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I haven't, but I would be scared to take it
on camera.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right because you don't know what could come out? Yes,
but I guess like I like shrooms. I think they're
really This is gonna sound crazy, and you know, I
don't care. I think they're very therapeutic, you know, for
whatever it's worth. And I enjoyed that. I like it
(05:56):
that Heather let's you know. I like it that Heather
does this and Gina and Shannon and they're all good sports.
I think it's fun. I liked the maize. I thought
it was good art. I loved it that they showed
themselves and Shannon hearing the Real Housewives songs. I mean, listen,
I've heard of seeing some shit on shrooms that were
you know, it's certainly not a Housewives.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm hearing it right now just because we're talking.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, it's kind of ominous too. It's like, this is Halloween.
This is I don't know why it reminds me of that,
but it does. Jack Skellington, Uh, But I love the
fact that they took streams and went to an indoor maze.
This is something I would do. And they're all having
fun together, right, which I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Like, Yeah, they're having fun together. I did notice that
they do make a point to always show when Shannon
goes up in order to drink.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow, that got by me.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But yes, the other two girls are sitting. They showed that's.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Right, that's right. So she's still I don't know if
i'd be drinking on the shrooms. Maybe that's why she
heard the Housewives you know song. But yeah. Gretchen says
she's lost a lot of people in her life to cancer,
and she was hoping Tamara would feel bad for her
after dealing with Teddy. I just say something. I hate
(07:11):
it when you're brought up in this shit. I just
don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I just don't this moment, I did feel like Tamra
was being genuine with Gretchen when she said, I feel
for you and your friend, yeah who passed away.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I like it when they put the gard yeah, I
like it when they put the guard down.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And then I didn't really expect from my cancer to
bring tam and Gretchen together.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah. Well, I just I don't know. Yeah, I just
I don't like it when you're mentioned like that. I
don't know, it rubs me. I don't know, I feel
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Also, they kind of like pause before they say my
name each time, like Gretchen was like, so I thought
because of what was going on with Teddy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right I know, like they do they well listen, it's
a sensitive you're a sensitive subject, rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But either way, then Tamra suggests signing a friendship contract
with question there's a Slade memorandum this they pull up
on chatchebt or was it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It has to be it has to be a chat
GPT contract, which means it's null and void.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Tamra has to agree not to not mention Slade's finances, career.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Or existence that was kind of amazing or existence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I want to have a contract that says, don't mention
my existence.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Don't mention my existence. Shouldn't they have signed the contract?
As a viewer, I would have appreciated it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean I would have appreciated the no existence and
the you know, you know how I feel about that.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah. Then Tamar tells Gina that she knows s Gretching
is not a good person. Gina wants Scretching to make
her feel better about the post she likes, and then
Tamar asked Gina to not bring it up tonight. Save
it for the last night.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Girl, Oh my god, to anybody that's ever been close
to their ship, you know, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Bring it up more than.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bring it up tomorrow night before we go home, before
we all fly home.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Right, and she can take her own sprinter van.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's right. That kicked out with her fur wrap whatever.
And the bang was still good. Though the bang was
still bang was still thing. Is she doing that blowout herself?
I'm so I think I think she does it herself.
But it's good.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I think she's got that at going.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Whatever she's got going. Let me know, it doesn't move,
it doesn't move. It's very you know, and like I
get criticized for my shit, but it's very Toddlers and Tiras,
which was one of my favorite shows. I love Going
to Cancel me if you want. I love that fucking show.
It was so great just because it was so ridiculous. Uh,
(10:13):
but I feel like, yeah, like she's giving me that full.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
On Yeah, she's giving she's giving pageant. Mm hmm mm
hmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Love a pageant, Love a pageant, Love a pageant.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Then Emily goes with Heather to spread her dad's ashes.
They meet the current homeowner who lives in Heather's parents
old home to go in.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I thought this was lovely and how beautiful was that home?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That was a beautiful I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Like in the courtyard and it was gorgeous. So Heather
like wow, and the man was so nice like would
you like to come inside and film?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I actually believe it, Like I don't think that
was set up prior.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, I don't think so either. And I think that
it was really nice and he that was really kind
of him. So whoever you are, mister dutch Man, that
was really cool and I'm glad that they got to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Go in, I know, and you could feel it. And
then she's like, of course, the one time my mom
doesn't answer the phone.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right, I know, right, the one time? What that's the
way it goes. And it was besha, Heather, It was
beshare meant to be? And Heather doesn't want to hold
on to things anymore. She wants to do this as
a thank you to her dad. And then we see
her like, you know, with her.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Legs over on the side. Yeah, Emily scooting away.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I like that, you know, gave her her privacy. And
Emily was so cute. I know, Emily like giving her
her privacy. Now, I don't want to end this on
a on a tacky note, but I'm going to We
released some ashes on ours and it blew back on us.
(11:49):
So while Heather was having her moment, I was very
happy that nothing bad happened during that.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
There was no wind.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There was no wind because Merce got in my mouth.
You ate Merce, yes, a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And how does merce taste.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Like dust, like you know when you we know when
like this fine powdery mist of stuff like it was.
So I'm so happy that Heather had a civilized, lovely
moment with her dad, because I'm telling you, all I
could think of was God or Garcel got doused in
(12:33):
merce And she was such a good friend. She didn't
even like, really, you know, make a big deal about it.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What were your thoughts on her having first seat and Shannon,
a housewife having second seat.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I thought it was interesting, was interesting choice.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I was wondering if you saw that she requested that
in order.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
To be on I would imagine, so yeah, I would imagine,
so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Shannon brings up how Gretchen told her they were talking
about her behind her back. They said, no one will
want to be with her because she wears spanks and
the fat comes out like biscuits.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Okay, so they did say it just moves the fat around.
They did, right, They did say that it moves the
fat around, redistributes.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Distributes everything around.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Do you think it was like a malicious conversation that
they originally had.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Mean, look, we all everybody I Warren spanks, everybody's worn spanks,
Emily's not wrong. It does redistribute, and when you compress
certain pieces, other pieces pop over. It's like a popover.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But she Shannon always shows.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, then don't show us you're wearing spanks.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, don't show us. She shows the spanks, and then
she also but she said, she goes, I'm allowed to
make fun of myself, but I don't want other people
doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I understand that, but unfortunately that's the way it goes.
Like I mean, if all of us in the world, like, yes,
I can make fun of myself, but don't want you
doing it. But that's that's I get it. Like, you know,
I think we had something else on a previous episode
where I said, yeah, it's okay for Shannon to talk
about it, but not anyone else. I get it. And
but I think, you know, every one of us have
(14:28):
worn spanks. I wear skims now, I do. I like skims.
I fucking good shit.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I love I have skims brawn right, I love my skins.
Skims are but did you see the new skims.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's like a I don't want a seventies porn bush.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Seventies porn bush underwear. No thank you, spikes, but everything
else skims send my way, I mean skims send my way.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, we love skims.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
We love skim, love skins. I love that. Tamar and
Emily say that was taken out of context.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It really wasn't. Though it really wasn't. Bottom line is
you're wearing spanks and.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And then Gretchen tries to interject, and Emily tells Gretchen
to shut up or she will lose it on her.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I could see that. Well. I like it when Emily,
again I've said this before, I like it when Emily
gets heated, like she's really civil. You can see her
working it. And then she's like stop. Yeah, and yeah,
Gretchen just leave well enough alone, Like please just just
don't do this right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You brought it up, you did what you needed to do.
We're talking about it, she apologized. She's trying to apologize
to Shannon. Yeah, keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
When Shanna gets up to the bathroom, her price tag
is on her skirts. The price tag on her skirt
is out stick or honest?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I think in her case honest. I think the bike
riding might be stick.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh no, I thought the bike riding was very real.
See we have the reverse. I was like this chick
is going to crash on this bike because I looked
at how concerned everybody else was about it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I know. But here here's the problem that I'm
having when it comes to Emily in the situation, Like,
I love her, but after how she felt last year
about her body like shaming.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Season, Yeah it didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
One would think that you would be more cautious about
the things that you said.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yes, but no, I mean, who better than to make
fun of themselves than somebody who's had body issues.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I mean, but she's not making fun of herself. She's
making She's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Probably including herself in it though she feels like I've
had these issues, you know, there's like a kinship there.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Then say I wear spanks and but like and then
make the joke. But she didn't, No, she didn't. But
I would imagine if one of the other women made
that joke about her, it wouldn't go over very well.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I just I don't think so I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Thinking, but if I wear spanks and you wear spanks,
we're both in on the joke kind of thing, Like
does Emily wear spanks? I mean, well, she had the
body should be thinking said, let's okay, you know what
I mean. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah. Then the next day they go on the bike ride.
Would you think was real? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think Shannon like wobbling like that. Yeah, yeah, it
was a little I was. I was a nervous.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I was frightened.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I was frightened. And I think that like I think
it was like Jen was also like whoa, like wait
a second, yeah, and Gina right yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Then Jenna opens up about how she has thoughts if
she will feel.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Like enough, always feel enough, and Tamor tells Jen she
would like to see her establish herself financially, if she
will always feel enough enough for Ryan?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Right, yeah, well she yeah, because she said Ryan, what
did she say? Has like?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Uh, Ryan was a playboy, That's what Tamra said. And
he has I guess he has a lot of experience.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Has a has a They said something like was it
colorful past?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, I think you're right colorful translation up, Yeah, as
someone who's been called colorful.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, so has a colorful past. Jen says she appreciates
a conversation with Tamra without snark.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I thought, I mean I did think it was a
good conversation have I think that Jen is working through
a lot right now, like when it comes to getting married,
you know, like she's we don't see it, but I
feel like she has to be stressed.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh very much so, yeah, very much. So she's stressed.
Who isn't I know? I mean freaking stressed, right, That's
my point. We're all working through a lot here, But
I do. I did like it that Tamra engine I
did have that exchange without snark. Yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Then at their final dinner, Tamrabil she had crabs before
and was itching. Tamra thanks, I didn't need to find
out on the television show.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean yeah, she says her ex got it
from a toilet seat, but he must have been cheating. Yes,
you can't get wouldn't do dudes where.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I've never had crabs an aficionado on crabs, But doesn't
seem like something I would want.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I don't want any of that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
No, no, but.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Because well this is a no crab zone because I
don't have any hair.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, I mean we would know quickly, Yeah, we would.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's not going to stick. Tamra makes a toast to
the last night in Amsterdam and gets emotional about how
hard this year has been, and she thanks them for
being there and calls out Heather for helping her through
the dark times.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So there's got to be something that we're missing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You mean about the dark times or why she and
Heather are close or what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, like when everybody was that supportive of Tama. See
your mind goes blank.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
No, my mind is I'm actually looking back. Yeah, my
mind is blank.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, like they weren't that supportive of her.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It didn't feel like that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I don't feel like there was an episode where like
the girls were.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, she thanks them for being there and calls out
Heather for helping her. Maybe she's thanking them for being
there while she made the show.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I'm just reaching. I'm just reaching.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Then we you know, we know that Tarma originally had
told Gina about the LGBTQ, plus that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I Heart had given her that I okay, So.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Let me let me give you a little backstory here.
I am, I am, I am. Yeah, okay, So to
give you a little backstory, these posts have been.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Out there for years, quantified years.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Somebody actually tweeted me the thread after we discussed with iHeart,
and we chose not to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh, you guys chose not to talk Yeah, we chose
not to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, but I mean over a year ago. I saw
these right, twenty twenty three. Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Gretchen denies it. She thinks she is scrolling quickly and
liking it by accidents. Heather gets emotional, saying LGBTQ plus
youth are in danger right now. So just pause right there.
What's your first instinct when Gretchen denies it and says
she's scrolling quickly and liking it by accident.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I've called bs. Youre following these accounts.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Or they're coming up on your feed somehow? Know that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What we do know is the Instagram that they did
blur out said when you open the door to homosexuality,
you open the door to pedophilia.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's really strong. Yeah, that is that is not true.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Not only is it not true, she's she I don't
know if she still is, but she was following this
person yeah that wrote it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's not good. And then she liked the post that
post saying that, And whether.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's still liked or not, I would imagine she got
home from Amsterdam and deleted a lot of people that
she follows and a lot of likes. I can't imagine
accidentally liking something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
A really strong, like ugly thing, and it's not true.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And do people still scroll through Instagram and just like
things like.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I mean, I don't do you.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, But what comes up on my feet are mostly
my friends.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, you know, right, because it's because I followed that
to me.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But I also, I mean, does she really feel that way?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Well, she's claiming she doesn't because she had. She's kind
of silent when they confront her about it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, she was. I and you know, Emily brought up
like if somebody had said this about me and it
was a liar, I would have come across the table, which.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Is I have.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So I agree with Emily. She was taking it incredible,
and I thought, is her xenax kicking it? I'm not
saying that she's on xenax, but I am. That's how
I act. So she was remarkably calm in the middle
of this accusation, which I don't know. I mean, I
(24:08):
and you could tell it broke Heather's heart.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, I mean Heather's heart.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh yeah, no, No, she had the absolutely correct reaction
as someone who has children in the LGBTQ plus community
and had just done the thing for the Trevor Project.
I mean, like, this is very these are her kids,
and yes, right of course, and she's very concerned for
their safety and I get it. So she had the
(24:35):
appropriate reaction.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But I thought Gretchen getting up and calling Slade was bad.
In the middle of it, I was like, Okay, what
is going to be the repercussions of this?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, was it Shannon that called her out on that?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It was Jen?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That's right. Good good for you, Jen. She was right.
I'm sorry I gave it to Shannon, but good for you, Jen,
because you were right. She shouldn't be calling Slade right now.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that was not the time. That's not the time
to do this, because then it all makes everything else
to come feel like bs.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It makes it look like conspiracy. And they were going
to hit back, and like when Slade says I'm gonna
get that bitch or whatever or calls Tamera a bitch
or something.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Like that, yeah, like we're going to get her, and
then we see.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like and then we see the anonymous voice later on
I Yeah, this is where I start to get very
this is Look.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It really irritated me, and like, I didn't think I'm
surprised that they would show that last scene.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Are you surprised because everything else is always so out
in the open, Like if you have a screenshot, show
the screenshot if you have if you're like, let's take
in the case of Kiki Monique, who you know Katie
was talking to. Kiki showed up, yeah at least faced
and said no. So if the anonymous person is having
(25:54):
their voice disguised, why that bothered me?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And where is this person now?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And where are these accounts and what is happening? Because
it what that does is it just it creates this
this weird like I don't trust anybody now, this is
just all weird. I find weird, isn't the right?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I find it odd that they go on this trip
to Amsterdam, this is released about Gretchen, Gretchen, and then
they come back and then all of a sudden they
two weeks after you know, we're going to get her,
and then this all happens, right, and now we see
(26:35):
in the trailer that Gretchen says I spent thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
She said that, Yeah, I spent thousands of dollars trying
to find out who this was. The other thing is
and someone pointed out to me, I'm not going to
say who. Someone pointed out to me there were no
leaks throughout the season from Tamera. Yeah, where are the
leaks or if there were, we don't know about them yet,
not saying, but I'm just saying we know right now,
(27:01):
from what we know right now, there were no leaks
from Tamera.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, and any of that stuff that was shared, nothing
was interesting. Like it was like Teddy and Erica went
to lunch.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, you no, like nothing nothing, No bombs were being dropped. Yeah,
well the biblical thing, like when Jen says, is it
something biblical? I Heather's reaction, Yeah, I mean not that.
I was just I don't think I've ever seen Heather.
(27:44):
It was she angry, and I'm like, I mean I
think she was angry, upset. She was upset, clearly, But
is it something biblical? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
What you what is Jen getting at there?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is this I think she's the Bible in your faith?
Is this how you feel?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah? I think she was trying to say is it
because of you know, your faith?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Your faith, I think, I mean which obviously, Jen, I
don't want to speak for you because whatever, But I'm
just trying to understand what I saw, and I think
Gretchen's response was no, right now.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Greshian's response was something like, I had a drag brunch
at my house once.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm sorry, it's true.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I had a drag brunch. What are you talking about?
Drag queens entertaining in my house. We have mimosas, we
have bottomless mimosas. I mean, my god, I.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Can never do such a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, I could never do such a thing. I
had a drag brunch, for Christ's sake, my god, that
you're right about that, the drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I can't. I can't. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What are we doing with our lives?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I don't know. I was like, I spit up my pedialyte.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I was, But I had a drag brunch, so everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Don't remember seventeen years ago when I went.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
To a drag brunch. I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I had a drag brunch? My god, never in my life.
I really need to reassess with.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I needed a good laugh.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Dragon, I had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
This is impossible.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
This is.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I lashed back to Gretchen eighty six years ago, right
to drag run.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
She does like to hold onto things.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She had a good glow. Then still she had a
good blow too.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
My gosh, she was kind of a pioneered drug brunches.
Maybe she has a point. Maybe she has a point.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I don't know, but I feel when she.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Chok on it timeline of this drag.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Brunch, it definitely was over ten years ago with our lives.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I don't knows.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Well that makes it all okay? Then well, clearly sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You had a drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Heather's like, oh I forgot about that drag brunch. Okay,
we're going back to back to this. That doesn't delete
all of your tweets, And like, what do you say?
I don't know, Yeah, what is she trying to say?
Oh my god, what is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Drag brunch?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But there's no okay, because there's no way it's as
shocked as Gretchen seemed. There's absolutely no way Gretchen and
Slade didn't know these were out there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
If that's why she was ready with the drag brunch
that she was prepared. She's like, you know what when
she says this, you say drag brunch.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You're not a member of You're you said all these things,
you like them. What are you talking about at a
drag brunch? Like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
H Well, Then, as Gretchen and Heather start to have
more of a conversation and Heather asked her to prove
it's not true, that's when this is the part that's weird.
This is when Heather Gretchen goes to call Slade to
tell him, out of all moments, to tell him this
is the time you choose.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
But she's on the phone, she's on the FaceTime with
him all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well then he says, and I quote Slade's says, this
is coming from that lying bitch who made comments about
me looking gay and sandals. Those were terrible sandals.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Those were terrible. That's a straight man.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, they're called mandals.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
They're called awful.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, but oh my god, you I kind of feel like,
you know, like I felt it in this moment. I'm like,
the retaliation from this is going to.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Be well, this is just to here we go, we're
whipping the we're whipping it back up again. Yeah, and
you know, but I had to think, you know, like
Gretchen coming back on the show, knowing that those things
were out there, you do realize that all of this
is coming, which is why I think she was prepared
with the drag brunch comment from nineteen thousand years ago.
(32:47):
And you know this lying bitch. Oh God, please don't
call women the.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I just I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Did you go back and watch it?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yes, I went back and watched it. We went back
and watched. So back in the day when we were on,
when I was on Beverly Hills, Erica is still on.
But back in the day when we were on, we
had like an incident with Aaron.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Who got arrested for domestic violence in court not too
long ago with Denise.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yes, he what was he even mad at us about?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think we were asking Denise questions again about I
don't know if the Brandy thing had come up yet
or not. I had a feeling it. Had it had,
you would know better because I've kind of blocked it out. Yeah,
But whatever it was, Oh, maybe it was because she
didn't want us to be around the kids, or she
would have never brought her kids, remember, to the to
(33:49):
Kyle's home, And I think this was kind of the
continuation of that. And I can see me say, He's like,
I'll you know, stop, you need to cut it out.
And he said something. I was like, do you want
to go there?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Like he's like do you want to go?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And like lean like leaned in and like like I
and I when I saw it, That's why I told
you go back and watch it because you can feel
it all over again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, you can feel and we felt uncomfortable in the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
In the moment, you can see us looking like are
you doing.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, because whatever we were fighting about wasn't that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It was something like well, and then in our sit
downs because it was that COVID and was like the
last time I was at my house, you can see
me say, well, Denise can stand up for herself. She
got herself into this group. She can talk for herself.
We don't need Aaron there like getting in our face
over something that Denise said or did not say.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know, I just I have all these visuals of
him always just there with like whatever brown drink he
was drinking all the day, the dark lickor yeah, the
dark lickor and just telling us that he could cure.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Cancer cancer and threatening us at the same time. I mean,
it was really it.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean he was a real gem. I mean God, Okay,
so back.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
To these gems, yep, back to these oranges. Jen tells
Gretchen that calling slave was the worst move she could
have made, and Gretchen cries, saying she didn't know why
they could do this to her. She says, they are
making her out to be something she is not. Look,
this is hard to watch, just because it's just hard
to watch. And you know, when you've been in these
(35:29):
dramatic sprinter van blowouts, you know, you know how it is.
And then in the car on the airport the next morning,
Gina says Gretchen does follow these accounts, but can't find
the posts she actually liked.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I have a feeling Gretchen might have stayed up late
that night. She had a lot of things to unlike.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
But why wouldn't you have done that before you come
on the show. Why didn't Gina check the likes and
the accounts two weeks ago? Yeah, when told her. Why
didn't Tamra have it or why didn't Tamra screen shot it?
Or why didn't This is what I This is where
I think there is screenshots. Yeah, but I need them,
like I need to be the one that got them.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, I need to see them. But they were blurred out.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But I'm just saying, like, if that's what I was
going to do, I want them to I I personally
need to know that I did it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I know if I was Gretchen, I'd be like, show me, right,
show me what you got. But did Gretchen ever even
say that. No, Gretchen never asked to see it because
she knew it exists.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, well, of course she knows it exists.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Like, so why would she say to give me proof?
She doesn't want the proof because the proof is going
to hurt her.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, isn't she saying that she did not do this?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Clearly, Heather says, Gretchen has always been kind to her
and would hate to ever accuse someone of something that's
not true. That's sounds very Heather, like, I get that,
and I agree. And then Jen says, Tarmah planted it
with Gina and it worked. I mean, yeah, but it
(37:11):
wasn't anything new, it was something that was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And they probably all knew already.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Probably. Yeah, Gina says, all they do is bring up
shit on the internet to destroy each other.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
She's right, that's what a lot of them do. And
that's what I mean across the board house. You can't
just say Orange County. I would say a lot of
people dig up stuff just to talk about.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, that's what these shows. I mean, The coffee Maker
and the Haitian. Mortician's not the Haitian. Are you reviewing
that show? Yeah, it's genius.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So good, it's genius.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I now need to watch that show. Yeah, it's probably
good for that, Like I now.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Need to watch You need to watch Miami like that. Yep,
you need to watch Salt Lake City too.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Guys. I do this job. I don't need any more
mental breakdowns. Like listen, I start to get like, I
start to feel a certain way when I watch this show.
I'm like, oh God, here it comes. I'm anticipating the
fucking you know, the next move. I can just see
it coming.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You can feel it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I can feel it coming.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Well, we love when it says after production wrapped, some
of the women receive dms from a person with information
about the show.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Which was not shown, which is not known to the public.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Gina got a DM about Tamor leaking details about the
stuff to bloggers and fan pages. They call a man
his voices disguise. He says stuff that did get filmed
during the season and was correct. The women are upset
with Tamor. They think she will hurt anyone in leak information. Okay,
So I'm a little bit confused by this. Why would
a random Instagram account all of a sudden decide to
(38:52):
contact the women after filming stopped and then agree to
be on a call but have their.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Voice disguise, And why would you reach out to several
of the women?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, and I don't know. This feels very like let's
deflect me, Like, okay, this is a perfect thing for
Gression and Slade to do.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well. Yeah, because after production wrapped.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, now they got their ducks.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So if you know all this stuff, how do you
know that you know it's gone bad and you need
to come after Tamra now, Yeah, Like why are you?
It's just it doesn't make sense to me. Also, I
would have liked for the voice not to be disguised,
and I need to see the screenshots of all the
women that receive these dms.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, I want to see all these messages.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, where are they coming from?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Even the account name was because.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
All the people that watch are gonna blow that account up.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Something and somebody, you know, like, listen, we know how
these we know how the Bravo versus. Yeah, is it
better than the FB?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I mean it's great, it's great, but also why is
it blurred?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I don't like that. The Yeah, if you got information
and you want to come out, come on out.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, but then you got to do yeah, you're right,
you got to do it the way kid.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, Kiki came on. This is it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I mean we didn't love it.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, I have respect for that, Yeah, as opposed to this,
which could be anything and everything. And now we're left
as an audience only pointing to Slade and Gretchen. Who
is this person?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Who is this person? And also, if you're going to
leak information to somebody else to share, it should be
interesting stuff. Yeah, not just Hey they you know this
is what they went to lunch and coast to Mesa.
Anybody and their mother could that.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Could be anybody. Yeah, I mean, or when Tamra quit
in New Orleans. There was something about that, the quitting.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm not sure that it's a
big surprise when that Tamar quit, because I mean she
posted about it in real time. Yes, so yeah, I
don't know is that considered leaking if you post in
real time?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think it's considered broadcasting. Yeah, so I don't know.
What do you feel about all of this?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I feel like the reunion is going to be ugly. Ugly, yeah,
because there's so much. I mean, I was even watching
something with Bryce. Yeah, so Gina's talking to Bryce. She's
saying the reason why they're having such issues with Katie
is because Katie never tried to be a friend.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh no, it was Emily. I'm sorry, Emily. It was
Emily on this interview that said the reason they didn't
they had issues with Katie she never tried to be
friends with women. She wanted to be friends with bloggers
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
But this is the first I've heard that. You would
think somebody who was on a show and they were
not being nice to you or you didn't feel like
they wanted to be your friend, they would say, hey,
you know, what, make an effort with us? You're never
making an effort.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
But how do you know? It wasn't said and they
just wasn't shown.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I feel like they were really needing things to be
shown earlier on. And if that was said, I feel
like it would have been.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Like yeah, but maybe Emily speaking in hindsight and saying,
you know what I mean when you look back at it,
she never really tried to be friends with us. She
only tried to befriend outside sources or bloggers. What else
can we call these people? Can call them something else
besides bloggers?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
What? I hate that word?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Can someone give us a new word?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Just like?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
What do we call them? Content creators? Let's let's call
them that? Like you're trying to be friends with content
creators that run accounts and you know, instead of forging
relationships with us, which makes us very distrustful of you, Katie.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
But maybe they weren't very welcoming.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well who is? Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna go
with that. Like we all know the game and I'm
sure you're gonna think I'm a lovely person this year?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Who's your favorite reunion? Look?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Well, by this, I can't really tell I know, I
don't know, but all the silhouettes look good. All the
girls look nice.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, they all look They all look good.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Gina, Jina look great.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Gina looks amazing up here on the top.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, yeah, that looks nice on her.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
She looked so good. Is this Gretchen looks like your
favorite Toddlers and tiaras.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
But I mean the silhouette is right.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I think, how can the selwod not be right?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I know she's very thin and long. Yeah, I mean
everybody looks like themselves.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
A lot of them are doing my post with the
one arm.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know, your pose is legendary. Hey, how much fun
did we have the other night?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
It didn't I know, we we had so much fun
at dinner. We went to dinner me Erica, Renna and
Kyle and it was so fun.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm so glad you got out.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I know. It was one of my like only dinners.
I very rarely go out like past three pm.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
So we got you out and we had a good time.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, we went out. We had fun. We laughed, no
one cried, no fighting.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
We had no fighting, and I think we just laughed
at each other. Yeah, and the ridiculousness of our lives.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, and we That's when I told Renda that I'm
slowly but surely my hair is morphing into hers.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Well, you could have a legendary look.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I know I'm going to steal her look. Really, I
feel like I'm a couple months out from being able
to pull off the Renna.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The shag, the Sally Hirschburger shag.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, I need to zip over to Sally Hirshberger get her.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Oh, thank you, but it was so fun. All right,
thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of Diamonds
in the Ruck. We'll be back next week to recap
the reunion.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I'm me too.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be good. All right, bye guys,
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Teddi Mellencamp
Tamra Judge
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