December 11, 2025 • 28 mins
Matt Laughery joins Tamra to talk about this “explosive” Southern Charm episode! Tamra’s come to the realization that she may be the female version of Craig…
Do they like this whole “throuple” storyline that’s being pushed? Is it obvious who Craig’s front runner is?
Plus, the straight men are the pot stirrers in this show and they think Shep’s moves were calculated! Was his story about Austen real?!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Teddy mellencap and camera judge.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, guys, welcome to other episode with two teas in
a pod. And today I have a special co host
with me.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is Hey tambora judge. Hey Matt, it's Matt Laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm Matt. So Matt is filling in today. Teddy's going
to be taking some time off during the holidays. So Matt, welcome, Welcome.
I know you've done this before, so you are a pro,
and you are also a comedian, so you put a
little fun into it. So I'm expecting the most from
you today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh wow, that's pressure, Camra.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, today we are going to be recapping Southern Charms
Season eleven, episode four, so let's just get right into it.
So everyone's in shock after Austin and Craig's blow out fight.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where are you in shock? No?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I mean, are they really in shock? I mean all
they talk about is how Craig blows up all the time,
so it's like, really, I mean, despite everything, they all
sit down for dinner at Winners. I just love that
name Winners, and he makes a toast because you know,
nothing is like a birthday, like throwing your own birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Party and telling people thank you for coming and fucking
everything up.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I know, thank you for being here. Fuck all you
now get out. It was a great birthday party that
I threw from myself.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Craig sits in between Sally and Charlie, and of course
he does. It's like he's like this, which.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
One do I pick?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Which one do I pick?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He is loving that attention. He does not care about
either of their feelings. No, he does, doesn't just want
both of them in his hot tub.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh god, are we gonna get to see that. He's
in his fuck boat fuck boy era right now. He's like,
I had a relationship for years, it didn't work out,
So I'm going back to drinking and screwing everything there
is in sight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But what's confusing to me is Craig looks like he
is the Hollywood Boulevard version of Jack Sparrow. Like he is,
and yet they're all still like fawning over him. It's
not weird.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, the whole outfit. Teddy thought it was hot.
I thought he looks like he's been run over by
a car. He looks like his mascara is running down
his face. I'm like he could have cleaned that shit
up and he could have been a little bit sexier
in that outfit.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, it was the antithesis of sexy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yes, exactly. So Craig gets up to be away from Austin,
Sally follows, of course she does. Then Craig threatens Austin,
telling him that SHEP has information that can ruin his life.
I love that he says that, and then he says,
you know, I don't really want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right Well, first of all, SHEP knew what he was
doing by calling Craig and giving him that information, even
though it was off camera.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Come on, I know, I know. But then he's like, oh,
I didn't want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Sorry, It's like, dude, you already got involved as soon
as two girls that you saw in New York came
up to you and said what I don't I'm not
even quite clear what was said. Yeah, Austin was like
hitting on him or whatever. He's like, you know, shop,
he got caught at Bravo con talking to people and
(03:17):
somebody was recording him and he was gossiping like a
little bitch.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, these these straight men are the messiest mfs on
Bravo TV. They aren't so messy, all three of them.
They it's crazy and they love it. You know that
they all love this chaos.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, they're all saying they're afraid of Craig, and then
they show these flashbacks of him yelling. And then I
started reflecting on my life and I thought, oh shit,
am I the female Craig.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You would never show up to a party looking like that,
Tamra Judge.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, I've had worse outfits, but yeah, I just like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You are Craig.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's just not why everybody's afraid of me.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm like, I'd.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Rather have somebody screaming yell at me so I can
scream right back at him. I find that.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Fun, Right, That's why we watch these shows exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So Austin and Craig are hashing things out inside and
Shep joins them to explain everything. But did he Well, I.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Love how Shep. This show has been on for a
gazillion years. And he goes to Madison. Should I go
in there? Should I? Should I go in there?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like it's his first time filming ever?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, go in there, Yes there, we have you to
have a partaking this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, Austin has pissed that SHEP went to Craig
for this information. Obviously he was why do you think
he went to Craig? Because I feel like everyone's saying, well,
Craig's not our friend, Craig's on our front and Austin
I feel like and SHEP are super close. Why didn't
SHEP just call Austin and say, hey, I'm not these
girls And they were saying this, like, why didn't we
(05:01):
just do that?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You would know better, so as somebody on the shows, right,
if you get off season, off camera information that could
potentially be a story, but you don't know because it
would kind of maybe blow up someone's life.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, you just answered the question. You just answered the question.
He got this off camera and he's like, aha, this
is going to be good for this season.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But do you think that SHEP was intentionally planting it
with Craig because he knew that Craig would bring it
up on camera?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, Well, do you think their conversation really was should
we bring it up on camera? Like? Have you has
that happened with you where you've called someone and said,
I don't know if I should bring this that's.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Called manipulating somebody. It's called manipulating. Hey, you know what,
I don't know if I should bring this up, but
I heard so and So was banging some of course
they're going to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, of course, So it was Shep being the master manipulator.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Actually, exactly right. Okay, he knows what he's doing and
I appreciate him for that. Yes, does Austin have a
right to be pissed at Shep?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, yes, it because it but it is the
name of the game, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, well, you know what, I did think that Shep
took ownership for it. He could have easily done what
most housewives do and say, well, I didn't say it,
I just repeated it. Well he said no. At the
end of the day, I'm the one that heard it
and I'm the one that spread it. So I kind
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of deserve this. So I was like, that was a
big boy moment for Shep.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He's growing, He's growing so much growth. Sunday Shell.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, then Sally confronts Craig while everyone else leaves the party.
I can't take Austin serious with a headband.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, see, Austin actually looked better than Craig for once,
in my.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Opinion, I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Wait, but Queen, just real quick this because there was
a moment in this Sally Craig conversation where she is
so just obviously feeding his ego, and you see the
shift in Craig when she goes she says something like,
you're just you're a really great guy.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He immediately just like you could just see these so affirmations.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, affirmations.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He's like, you're invited to the hot tub tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, yes, I expected him to break out in the dance.
I mean it was just hilarious and you knew exactly
what he was she was doing.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yank.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Exactly. We've had people, I've had people on my cast
that you know, all you have to do is say
something nice and they're like, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You think I forget everything that's happened in the past
ten minutes. Yes, do you think of a great guy? Oh? Gee?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So the next day we get Sally calling her mom
and telling her about the party. Admits that she and
Charlie went to Craig's house afterwards and she didn't get
home till five am. Her mom was like, what was
going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Would you ever suggest to your daughter that she should
have a managa? No, no, bizarre.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know she's like a threesome on there.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean I thought she's very progressive, But damn.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Not something my mom would say to me, or I
would say to my daughter at least. I mean, she's twenty.
I don't know who knows, who knows with me?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, okay, give it a few more years.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Give a few years yet. But Sally doesn't understand why
Craig hasn't made a move on her, do you?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, because he's more into Charlie.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I think that sounds weird right there, by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, oh, because it's Charlie's like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
A boy's name and he she sells it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
With an e. Y. I would be more in to
Craig being into a Charlie.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Maybe that's his next year's storyline. So Charlie goes over
to Craig's house to bring him some art. Isn't that sweet?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah? And then he admits, Oh, I'm only pretending to
like art so I can get in your pants.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, just like the fuck boy he is right now?
I mean, seriously, did you enjoy that art?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Would you hang that art in your house.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm not an art person, to be honest with you,
but I'm starting to see like the beauty in it.
I think I would just knowing that I know nothing
about art, I would have to rely on somebody else
to be like, what should go there? You tell me
to me. It's just about the colors. Like I'm not
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a very colorful person, even though I'm in red today,
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not You're colorful in your language.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's a very nice way of putting it, very nice
way of putting it. So then we go on to
Molly and Shep. They meet up at the dog park,
which I was very impressed with this dog park. It
was an interactive dog park and they had like a
restaurant and a bar there and the dogs playing around him.
They had pools. I've never seen anything like that, and
I'm thinking maybe i should open one up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that your next business venture? Tamra Judges dog park.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, I'm gonna let Eddie do it. I didn't. I
don't want to be around dog shit. But it's it's
actually cool, very very cool. I thought, have you ever
seen one like that? Probably La they have those.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Didn't last season. Molly like run in the shep at
a dog park, like randomly, I think, so is it
with this girl? Dog parks?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Fancy meeting either. She's very into creatures, I mean, and yes,
tubas and snakes and lizards and dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do you need Do you don't think we need more
from Molly?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I would like to see a little bit more from Molly.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I would like, what is she giving us on this show?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Not a lot yet. Now we're what four episodes in,
so we're hoping for the best. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't know if you go, but you remember the
fight at the go back to the beginning, she had
tried to have her moment with sadly m HM, and
she made the comment, oh, I don't know, maybe you
were drunk.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would like to see her go at it with Vanita,
because Vanita needs to let off some steam.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
She's not about Craig.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's not about Craik. I feel like she's just not
very happy this season, and I want to see Vanita happy. Yeah,
she doesn't seem very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Do you think that she like maybe is into Craig.
It's one of those you know, like as kids, where
you're like, oh my god, JT.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
All over again or whatever the guy's name was. I
don't know at this point. I don't even remember what
their fight is something that was said on Watch Happens Life.
But they're not even interacting, and I'm shocked that the
producers haven't tried to get them to interact. They just
act like they're not on the same cast.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I mean the season. The beginning of the season
was Herbs storming out saying she wanted to have the
conversation with him, but then it was like set up
and then there was no follow through. Yeah on it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, you know what we got to see tonight was
a little bit of Witner.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh like him?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I like him too. So he has is his family's
house on Itchy Grass.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Farm, Itchi Grass and I don't remember this.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Itchi Grass farm. So yeah, So he's talking to his
mom and then he gets on his bicycle with a
with a homemade wooden box on it where he puts
his dog, and this little attorney just wheels it into
his office. And I thought, could you imagine seeing your
attorney pull up like that?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I would trust that, would you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
What I do like Witner?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I like him too. I liked that, you know, he
called his mom on camera.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I think that they all called their mom in this episode, right,
It was kind of like a mommy episode.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
She's like, you have having threesome winner come to Itchy
Grass Farm.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Witner's like, I don't know what I got myself into
on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know, But shep thinks Austin will forgive Craig before
he forgives him. Do you think that's true?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know, because I guess because Austin and Craig
are have a closer relationship in the way that they
had like their podcast together and stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Right, So is that a podcast still going on? Do
you know?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't think. So. What was it called, like pillows
and oh god, wasn't it called pillows and something?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Pillows and baby Talk?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean right there, well, we love them, We love
all the entire casts. So we just throw a little
shade here and there. But do you believe Shepp's story
that he didn't want to get involved with these which
he called them? I believe moron girls? Is that what
he called them? Moron girls?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I guess that's what we're calling fans these days.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Moron girls. I'm like, shop that wasn't very nice.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well do you have you ever had anybody who run
up to you on the street when you're just like
walking like it's but in New York, when you're there
for watching them his live or anything. Has anybody ever
wrapped to him and given you information?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Like, No, nobody runs up and gives me. I mean,
not like information about my cast or anything like that.
That'll just come up and say Hi, love you love
the show, da da da, but not like, hey, let's talk.
I mean people slide into dms and things like that
to try to give you information. But I always take
it with a grain of salt. Most of it's bullshit,
(15:08):
people trying to I have somebody right now that's coming
into my DMS and saying they have information and they
want me to sign a n DA. And it's not
just me they're reaching out to. They're reaching out to
a few of the cast members and I'm like, no, thanks,
I don't want to get involved. That just seems dangerous
to me.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I that's smart, Yeah, But I do believe. Do you
believe that these girls? I do believe that these girls
ran up to him and said this.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think yep, I think I don't think he made
it up. No.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think the part that's weird and I think we
already really touched on this is that why did he
call Craig to gossip if he didn't want to get involved?
Just say you wanted to get involved?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No did he? It's this like you said, it's the
get someone else to do the dirty work for you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, like Craig to Sally, I try my hardest to
stay out of it. Yet he yelled, chef told me
something that can ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, let's see. That's I think when they say they're
scared with Craig, is that's what it is. He's someone
who will take the information but kind of make you
feel like it's a lot more explosive than it is. Yeah,
no way to get a rise out of somebody. I
guess that's what makes him dangerous, but it also makes
him fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well. I don't know if there's something wrong with me that,
but I love this.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This is a whole different podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, I know, but it's like I love on the
shows to see like the explosions and the fights and
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I want to
show I don't want to be there like a like
a therapy session and watch Housewives, like, so, how did
that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well? We can get little bits of that, but a little.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Bits of that, but not that's not the entire time.
I want to see people's different emotions and how they
process things and how they deal with things, and like
for them to say, oh, we're so afraid of Craig
because he yells.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, that's the thing that I don't think that they're
afraid that he's going to like yell. I think they're
afraid that he's going to try to ruin their lives.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No one can ruin your life but yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This is very true, okay. And also it's not like
Austin has been known to keep it in his pants, right,
like exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And for record, they're not together anymore, him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You could tell that they weren't going to be together
from the beginning opening. Yes, yes, so calm down. And
also he's getting cats, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Getting pussies, and Rod says no return policy on these pussies.
So are these two pussies the ones that ran into
chef in New York? I mean, I'm just thinking like
that could be a possibility. And then Chef's just blowing
it up and he's like, here they are.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh, I wish Austin would name the cats Moron and girls.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And then Madison says the thing that I'm thinking, you're
gonna have cat hair everywhere? You have cats?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right, yes, a cat.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
A cat? Okay, we have a cat too. Do you
have cat hair everywhere?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No? Not at all? Right, it depends on.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What kind of cat you have. Now, my son's got
a few cats, and sitting on his couch is like,
you know your cat.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You're his Spencer's one cat is so beautiful you'd posted
it's got two? Well, the one he the newest one.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh, the one he rescued from the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Ben. Oh, that cat is so beautiful, so.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Beautiful it is. It's like Siamese mixed with something. It's
so cute. But Austin putting together all his cat stuff
and not knowing how to put together the electric water dispenser.
And how do you feel about the cat box in
the bathroom next to the toilet.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, I know, absolutely not. The litter box in our
house is where no one can see it, smell it,
feel it, touch it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Right, Yes, it's like it needs to be like in
a laundry room or someplace like, and I get it.
Maybe maybe it's a spare Even if it's a spare bathroom,
it's worse. That's the when your your guests are going in. Yeah,
why can't cats just shit in the toilet?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well? Have you seen me? The walkers?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Can you? I know, can you train yours?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Our is a real bitch.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
All cats are real bitches.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Did did Austin say specifically what like the catalyst was
for him wanting to adopt these two cats that I miss?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
No, the reasoning, I don't think he did. Oh no, No,
he did say something along the lines like he wants
when he comes home to an empty house, he wants
somebody to greet him because he can't find a wife.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was just going to say, is he subconsciously telling
this girl, Oh, I don't I'd rather live with two.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's kind of what I thought.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's rather than you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well now it's like, sorry, I can't come to your
house because I can't leave my cats alone.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, and also we'll probably find out she's probably like
deathly allergic to cats. The girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, that that's going to happen next. That will happen next. Yeah,
so she gets the cats. Madison's there, Rod's there. They
have the cats in a basket. Austin feels like he
needs to get out of town, so we may drive
over to Audrey's. Now he's going to take his cats
with him. I guess that's always great. You got to
schlep the cat box all that. We do that when
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we go to Big Bear. If we're there Sophia is
with us, then we will take the cat if it's
you know, for extended period of time, because it's not
like nice to leave them home alone.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, does your cat enjoy the car drop?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
No, we have to give him kitty xanax or something.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, when he was little, he didn't like it. Now
he's getting he gets used to it. So, but it's
it's not fun being in a car with a cat
mew and it stresses him out.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, like my son take her to the vets.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
She's like, yeah, my son will not put his cats
in the car. I'm like, come to Big Bear for Christmas.
Is like, I'm not driving with my cats. I'm afraid
they'll have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh he's such a good cat dad.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He is like such a cat dog, like I buy
him things with cats on it, like he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh he's a cat dad getting cat socks for Christmas.
I wish we got more of Rodrigo because I don't
think we get.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Any Rodrigo, Like do they have friends of on this show?
And then main cast? Is he like just a friend
or something? Because we don't really get to see him
And have we seen his husband this season?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No? This season he has I don't think we've seen
him in I don't think he was at the beach party.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But we don't even get any story, like we get
home life. We need some home life, like I want
I need the homosexual representation on the show. I need
him to go in there with the straight man and
show them how it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh, listen to you. I would like to see more
of some of his home life.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What do you think about Austin Givens shop the silent treatment?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
They're setting up the fact that he's basically saying, all
this time, I thought they're my real friends, but really
they're the show friends, right? Is that what you gathered
from what this conversation is? Yea, And I feel like
Madison because they have been so horrendous to her. She's
relishing and kind of getting in there and getting in
Austin's head and making him feel like they're actually not friends,
(22:51):
which I don't think. So do you really think that
they aren't really true friends?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think they're friends.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I do too.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, it's crazy that this show is driven mostly.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
By the men, right, I know it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I feel like we need the girls to get more involved.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But what do you think that the Craig Thruple triangle
storyline is is interesting? Like do you do you want
to see Sally and fight over him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I do, I do, okay, And I want to see
it move a little faster and he needs to move
a little faster, like he's in a hot tub with
a girl for four hours and he doesn't even try anything.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But also, why are there not summer house cameras up
above that hot tub if they're going to be there
every goddamn night. This is the second time which she
said we were there till four thirty in the morning.
First of all, what do you do until four thirty
in the morning if you're not having sex? I know,
I know, four thirty in the morning in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Unless they are, and she's just not admitting it. I
don't know. You know, Craig is very sensitive. Oh this time,
he's so sens he needs to sew a few pillows
and then journal about it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I oh, Craig, I should I think I can listen
to you say the word pillows on a loop. You
should do. You should do voice voice ads for Craig
conoverse pillow lie.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Hell yeah. But he, like Austin's giving Shep the silent treatment,
and Shep is trying to get Molly to fix things, like, yeah,
you call him. Don't tell him that I said that,
but you call him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know what? I think? I think Shep is actually
his manipulation is at work again, because he's at least
giving Molly something to do on this show. True, Like
he's saying, get in there, help us figure this out
and get airtime and cast some problems. Otherwise, Mal's we're
just talking about your tuba, and I don't want to
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talk about your tub.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Oh my god. Well, Madison, when she comes whatever, she'd
admit she was disappointed in Craig's behavior at the party.
I wanh wanh want I loved it. Austin. Austin surprises friend,
best friend betrayed him. But are you, Austin, are you
really surprised? But Madison isn't, and they flashed back to
Craig's You know, the flashbacks were pretty intense of him
(25:20):
screaming and yelling, and then I thought, for a second,
Craig scares me, and I'm like, nah, I'd probably fuck
with him just to make him explode.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh my god, you said a fresha and think you
were going to have the with in there. You said
I'd probably fuck with him, And for one beat I
was like, Oh, she couldn't say it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it's good though.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is one other little point. It goes back to
what Molly tried to call out Sally, And then in
the flashbacks we see every time they say to Craig,
are you drunk? Or you drunk? Are you drunk? Aren't
all of them just always drunk on this show? Like, yes,
that's the point of this show.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Insinuate he as a drinking problem, and like we all,
like all Bravo shows, we're drinking. But there's a difference
between getting drunk and being an asshole and being having
a drinking problem. Like I always say I have a
drunk problem. I don't drink very often, but when I do,
I have a drunk problem. I'm an asshole. But there
(26:20):
I think they think he's got a drinking problem.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, he's been open about his struggles with other substances
as well, Like, it's not like he hasn't admitted it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So they're scared if he gets starts drinking a lot,
then he's going to end up in rehab or something.
I don't know. But you know what, he's the only
one that's really doing much on the show right now.
We lost JT. And remember he was the show idiot.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right I mean, But also Craig is very he is
like a charismatic person, right, Yes, he's easy to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, yes, where T was not.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, that's AJT. But yeah, but so who cares if
he has a personality disorder as well as an addiction?
Who cares? He's great TV?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Where is good TV? Stop trying to silence him?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
For more tips, please follow us?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But yeah, I mean I thought it was a good episode.
I enjoy Southern charm. I don't know if you do,
but I do.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm I did not, but now I this this episode,
I was like, Okay, I get it because it's a
different thing watching men be messy like this.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah. So I wasn't like original watcher of the show,
like I think when the first show came out, I
watched a few episodes and then when we started recapping
it was it like last year or the year before.
Then I started watching it. So I am invested now,
But I still want to go back and watch those
earlier seasons.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I want to see more of Patricia. So I think
maybe she was more involved in earlier seasons.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
So I would love a show revolving around that woman.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know, Whitney's the producer.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, isn't that weird create the show?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think, yeah, yep, you are going to create the
show and then I'm going to have a small part
in it. But I need my mom to be in
it as well.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But I think he was more active earlier too, Like
I think he was more active in the actual story, now,
was he not?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah? Yeah, we haven't seen much of him this season.
Like he's there. He'll show to a party, but he
doesn't really say much.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's fine. His hair terrifies me, it's always different.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I feel like every single year it's a different. Yeah,
but that's it for the episode. Guys, thank you so
much for tuning in for episode four of Southern Charm,
and we'll see you next week.
Two teas in a pod.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Teddy mellencap and camera judge.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, guys, welcome to other episode with two teas in
a pod. And today I have a special co host
with me.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is Hey tambora judge. Hey Matt, it's Matt Laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm Matt. So Matt is filling in today. Teddy's going
to be taking some time off during the holidays. So Matt, welcome, Welcome.
I know you've done this before, so you are a pro,
and you are also a comedian, so you put a
little fun into it. So I'm expecting the most from
you today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh wow, that's pressure, Camra.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, today we are going to be recapping Southern Charms
Season eleven, episode four, so let's just get right into it.
So everyone's in shock after Austin and Craig's blow out fight.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where are you in shock? No?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I mean, are they really in shock? I mean all
they talk about is how Craig blows up all the time,
so it's like, really, I mean, despite everything, they all
sit down for dinner at Winners. I just love that
name Winners, and he makes a toast because you know,
nothing is like a birthday, like throwing your own birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Party and telling people thank you for coming and fucking
everything up.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I know, thank you for being here. Fuck all you
now get out. It was a great birthday party that
I threw from myself.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Craig sits in between Sally and Charlie, and of course
he does. It's like he's like this, which.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
One do I pick?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Which one do I pick?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He is loving that attention. He does not care about
either of their feelings. No, he does, doesn't just want
both of them in his hot tub.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh god, are we gonna get to see that. He's
in his fuck boat fuck boy era right now. He's like,
I had a relationship for years, it didn't work out,
So I'm going back to drinking and screwing everything there
is in sight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But what's confusing to me is Craig looks like he
is the Hollywood Boulevard version of Jack Sparrow. Like he is,
and yet they're all still like fawning over him. It's
not weird.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, the whole outfit. Teddy thought it was hot.
I thought he looks like he's been run over by
a car. He looks like his mascara is running down
his face. I'm like he could have cleaned that shit
up and he could have been a little bit sexier
in that outfit.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, it was the antithesis of sexy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yes, exactly. So Craig gets up to be away from Austin,
Sally follows, of course she does. Then Craig threatens Austin,
telling him that SHEP has information that can ruin his life.
I love that he says that, and then he says,
you know, I don't really want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right Well, first of all, SHEP knew what he was
doing by calling Craig and giving him that information, even
though it was off camera.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Come on, I know, I know. But then he's like, oh,
I didn't want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Sorry, It's like, dude, you already got involved as soon
as two girls that you saw in New York came
up to you and said what I don't I'm not
even quite clear what was said. Yeah, Austin was like
hitting on him or whatever. He's like, you know, shop,
he got caught at Bravo con talking to people and
(03:17):
somebody was recording him and he was gossiping like a
little bitch.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, these these straight men are the messiest mfs on
Bravo TV. They aren't so messy, all three of them.
They it's crazy and they love it. You know that
they all love this chaos.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, they're all saying they're afraid of Craig, and then
they show these flashbacks of him yelling. And then I
started reflecting on my life and I thought, oh shit,
am I the female Craig.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You would never show up to a party looking like that,
Tamra Judge.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, I've had worse outfits, but yeah, I just like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You are Craig.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's just not why everybody's afraid of me.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm like, I'd.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Rather have somebody screaming yell at me so I can
scream right back at him. I find that.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Fun, Right, That's why we watch these shows exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So Austin and Craig are hashing things out inside and
Shep joins them to explain everything. But did he Well, I.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Love how Shep. This show has been on for a
gazillion years. And he goes to Madison. Should I go
in there? Should I? Should I go in there?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like it's his first time filming ever?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, go in there, Yes there, we have you to
have a partaking this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, Austin has pissed that SHEP went to Craig
for this information. Obviously he was why do you think
he went to Craig? Because I feel like everyone's saying, well,
Craig's not our friend, Craig's on our front and Austin
I feel like and SHEP are super close. Why didn't
SHEP just call Austin and say, hey, I'm not these
girls And they were saying this, like, why didn't we
(05:01):
just do that?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You would know better, so as somebody on the shows, right,
if you get off season, off camera information that could
potentially be a story, but you don't know because it
would kind of maybe blow up someone's life.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, you just answered the question. You just answered the question.
He got this off camera and he's like, aha, this
is going to be good for this season.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But do you think that SHEP was intentionally planting it
with Craig because he knew that Craig would bring it
up on camera?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, Well, do you think their conversation really was should
we bring it up on camera? Like? Have you has
that happened with you where you've called someone and said,
I don't know if I should bring this that's.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Called manipulating somebody. It's called manipulating. Hey, you know what,
I don't know if I should bring this up, but
I heard so and So was banging some of course
they're going to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, of course, So it was Shep being the master manipulator.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Actually, exactly right. Okay, he knows what he's doing and
I appreciate him for that. Yes, does Austin have a
right to be pissed at Shep?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, yes, it because it but it is the
name of the game, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, well, you know what, I did think that Shep
took ownership for it. He could have easily done what
most housewives do and say, well, I didn't say it,
I just repeated it. Well he said no. At the
end of the day, I'm the one that heard it
and I'm the one that spread it. So I kind
(06:35):
of deserve this. So I was like, that was a
big boy moment for Shep.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He's growing, He's growing so much growth. Sunday Shell.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, then Sally confronts Craig while everyone else leaves the party.
I can't take Austin serious with a headband.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, see, Austin actually looked better than Craig for once,
in my.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Opinion, I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Wait, but Queen, just real quick this because there was
a moment in this Sally Craig conversation where she is
so just obviously feeding his ego, and you see the
shift in Craig when she goes she says something like,
you're just you're a really great guy.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He immediately just like you could just see these so affirmations.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, affirmations.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He's like, you're invited to the hot tub tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, yes, I expected him to break out in the dance.
I mean it was just hilarious and you knew exactly
what he was she was doing.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yank.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Exactly. We've had people, I've had people on my cast
that you know, all you have to do is say
something nice and they're like, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You think I forget everything that's happened in the past
ten minutes. Yes, do you think of a great guy? Oh? Gee?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So the next day we get Sally calling her mom
and telling her about the party. Admits that she and
Charlie went to Craig's house afterwards and she didn't get
home till five am. Her mom was like, what was
going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Would you ever suggest to your daughter that she should
have a managa? No, no, bizarre.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know she's like a threesome on there.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean I thought she's very progressive, But damn.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Not something my mom would say to me, or I
would say to my daughter at least. I mean, she's twenty.
I don't know who knows, who knows with me?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, okay, give it a few more years.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Give a few years yet. But Sally doesn't understand why
Craig hasn't made a move on her, do you?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, because he's more into Charlie.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I think that sounds weird right there, by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, oh, because it's Charlie's like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
A boy's name and he she sells it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
With an e. Y. I would be more in to
Craig being into a Charlie.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Maybe that's his next year's storyline. So Charlie goes over
to Craig's house to bring him some art. Isn't that sweet?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah? And then he admits, Oh, I'm only pretending to
like art so I can get in your pants.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, just like the fuck boy he is right now?
I mean, seriously, did you enjoy that art?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Would you hang that art in your house.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm not an art person, to be honest with you,
but I'm starting to see like the beauty in it.
I think I would just knowing that I know nothing
about art, I would have to rely on somebody else
to be like, what should go there? You tell me
to me. It's just about the colors. Like I'm not
(09:56):
a very colorful person, even though I'm in red today,
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not You're colorful in your language.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's a very nice way of putting it, very nice
way of putting it. So then we go on to
Molly and Shep. They meet up at the dog park,
which I was very impressed with this dog park. It
was an interactive dog park and they had like a
restaurant and a bar there and the dogs playing around him.
They had pools. I've never seen anything like that, and
I'm thinking maybe i should open one up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that your next business venture? Tamra Judges dog park.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, I'm gonna let Eddie do it. I didn't. I
don't want to be around dog shit. But it's it's
actually cool, very very cool. I thought, have you ever
seen one like that? Probably La they have those.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Didn't last season. Molly like run in the shep at
a dog park, like randomly, I think, so is it
with this girl? Dog parks?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Fancy meeting either. She's very into creatures, I mean, and yes,
tubas and snakes and lizards and dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do you need Do you don't think we need more
from Molly?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I would like to see a little bit more from Molly.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I would like, what is she giving us on this show?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Not a lot yet. Now we're what four episodes in,
so we're hoping for the best. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't know if you go, but you remember the
fight at the go back to the beginning, she had
tried to have her moment with sadly m HM, and
she made the comment, oh, I don't know, maybe you
were drunk.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would like to see her go at it with Vanita,
because Vanita needs to let off some steam.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
She's not about Craig.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's not about Craik. I feel like she's just not
very happy this season, and I want to see Vanita happy. Yeah,
she doesn't seem very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Do you think that she like maybe is into Craig.
It's one of those you know, like as kids, where
you're like, oh my god, JT.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
All over again or whatever the guy's name was. I
don't know at this point. I don't even remember what
their fight is something that was said on Watch Happens Life.
But they're not even interacting, and I'm shocked that the
producers haven't tried to get them to interact. They just
act like they're not on the same cast.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I mean the season. The beginning of the season
was Herbs storming out saying she wanted to have the
conversation with him, but then it was like set up
and then there was no follow through. Yeah on it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, you know what we got to see tonight was
a little bit of Witner.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh like him?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I like him too. So he has is his family's
house on Itchy Grass.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Farm, Itchi Grass and I don't remember this.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Itchi Grass farm. So yeah, So he's talking to his
mom and then he gets on his bicycle with a
with a homemade wooden box on it where he puts
his dog, and this little attorney just wheels it into
his office. And I thought, could you imagine seeing your
attorney pull up like that?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I would trust that, would you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
What I do like Witner?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I like him too. I liked that, you know, he
called his mom on camera.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I think that they all called their mom in this episode, right,
It was kind of like a mommy episode.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
She's like, you have having threesome winner come to Itchy
Grass Farm.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Witner's like, I don't know what I got myself into
on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know, But shep thinks Austin will forgive Craig before
he forgives him. Do you think that's true?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know, because I guess because Austin and Craig
are have a closer relationship in the way that they
had like their podcast together and stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Right, So is that a podcast still going on? Do
you know?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't think. So. What was it called, like pillows
and oh god, wasn't it called pillows and something?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Pillows and baby Talk?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean right there, well, we love them, We love
all the entire casts. So we just throw a little
shade here and there. But do you believe Shepp's story
that he didn't want to get involved with these which
he called them? I believe moron girls? Is that what
he called them? Moron girls?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I guess that's what we're calling fans these days.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Moron girls. I'm like, shop that wasn't very nice.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well do you have you ever had anybody who run
up to you on the street when you're just like
walking like it's but in New York, when you're there
for watching them his live or anything. Has anybody ever
wrapped to him and given you information?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Like, No, nobody runs up and gives me. I mean,
not like information about my cast or anything like that.
That'll just come up and say Hi, love you love
the show, da da da, but not like, hey, let's talk.
I mean people slide into dms and things like that
to try to give you information. But I always take
it with a grain of salt. Most of it's bullshit,
(15:08):
people trying to I have somebody right now that's coming
into my DMS and saying they have information and they
want me to sign a n DA. And it's not
just me they're reaching out to. They're reaching out to
a few of the cast members and I'm like, no, thanks,
I don't want to get involved. That just seems dangerous
to me.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I that's smart, Yeah, But I do believe. Do you
believe that these girls? I do believe that these girls
ran up to him and said this.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think yep, I think I don't think he made
it up. No.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think the part that's weird and I think we
already really touched on this is that why did he
call Craig to gossip if he didn't want to get involved?
Just say you wanted to get involved?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No did he? It's this like you said, it's the
get someone else to do the dirty work for you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, like Craig to Sally, I try my hardest to
stay out of it. Yet he yelled, chef told me
something that can ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, let's see. That's I think when they say they're
scared with Craig, is that's what it is. He's someone
who will take the information but kind of make you
feel like it's a lot more explosive than it is. Yeah,
no way to get a rise out of somebody. I
guess that's what makes him dangerous, but it also makes
him fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well. I don't know if there's something wrong with me that,
but I love this.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This is a whole different podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, I know, but it's like I love on the
shows to see like the explosions and the fights and
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I want to
show I don't want to be there like a like
a therapy session and watch Housewives, like, so, how did
that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well? We can get little bits of that, but a little.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Bits of that, but not that's not the entire time.
I want to see people's different emotions and how they
process things and how they deal with things, and like
for them to say, oh, we're so afraid of Craig
because he yells.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, that's the thing that I don't think that they're
afraid that he's going to like yell. I think they're
afraid that he's going to try to ruin their lives.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No one can ruin your life but yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This is very true, okay. And also it's not like
Austin has been known to keep it in his pants, right,
like exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And for record, they're not together anymore, him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You could tell that they weren't going to be together
from the beginning opening. Yes, yes, so calm down. And
also he's getting cats, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Getting pussies, and Rod says no return policy on these pussies.
So are these two pussies the ones that ran into
chef in New York? I mean, I'm just thinking like
that could be a possibility. And then Chef's just blowing
it up and he's like, here they are.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh, I wish Austin would name the cats Moron and girls.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And then Madison says the thing that I'm thinking, you're
gonna have cat hair everywhere? You have cats?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right, yes, a cat.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
A cat? Okay, we have a cat too. Do you
have cat hair everywhere?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No? Not at all? Right, it depends on.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What kind of cat you have. Now, my son's got
a few cats, and sitting on his couch is like,
you know your cat.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You're his Spencer's one cat is so beautiful you'd posted
it's got two? Well, the one he the newest one.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh, the one he rescued from the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Ben. Oh, that cat is so beautiful, so.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Beautiful it is. It's like Siamese mixed with something. It's
so cute. But Austin putting together all his cat stuff
and not knowing how to put together the electric water dispenser.
And how do you feel about the cat box in
the bathroom next to the toilet.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, I know, absolutely not. The litter box in our
house is where no one can see it, smell it,
feel it, touch it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Right, Yes, it's like it needs to be like in
a laundry room or someplace like, and I get it.
Maybe maybe it's a spare Even if it's a spare bathroom,
it's worse. That's the when your your guests are going in. Yeah,
why can't cats just shit in the toilet?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well? Have you seen me? The walkers?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Can you? I know, can you train yours?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Our is a real bitch.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
All cats are real bitches.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Did did Austin say specifically what like the catalyst was
for him wanting to adopt these two cats that I miss?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
No, the reasoning, I don't think he did. Oh no, No,
he did say something along the lines like he wants
when he comes home to an empty house, he wants
somebody to greet him because he can't find a wife.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was just going to say, is he subconsciously telling
this girl, Oh, I don't I'd rather live with two.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's kind of what I thought.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's rather than you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well now it's like, sorry, I can't come to your
house because I can't leave my cats alone.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, and also we'll probably find out she's probably like
deathly allergic to cats. The girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, that that's going to happen next. That will happen next. Yeah,
so she gets the cats. Madison's there, Rod's there. They
have the cats in a basket. Austin feels like he
needs to get out of town, so we may drive
over to Audrey's. Now he's going to take his cats
with him. I guess that's always great. You got to
schlep the cat box all that. We do that when
(20:33):
we go to Big Bear. If we're there Sophia is
with us, then we will take the cat if it's
you know, for extended period of time, because it's not
like nice to leave them home alone.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, does your cat enjoy the car drop?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
No, we have to give him kitty xanax or something.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, when he was little, he didn't like it. Now
he's getting he gets used to it. So, but it's
it's not fun being in a car with a cat
mew and it stresses him out.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, like my son take her to the vets.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
She's like, yeah, my son will not put his cats
in the car. I'm like, come to Big Bear for Christmas.
Is like, I'm not driving with my cats. I'm afraid
they'll have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh he's such a good cat dad.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He is like such a cat dog, like I buy
him things with cats on it, like he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh he's a cat dad getting cat socks for Christmas.
I wish we got more of Rodrigo because I don't
think we get.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Any Rodrigo, Like do they have friends of on this show?
And then main cast? Is he like just a friend
or something? Because we don't really get to see him
And have we seen his husband this season?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No? This season he has I don't think we've seen
him in I don't think he was at the beach party.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But we don't even get any story, like we get
home life. We need some home life, like I want
I need the homosexual representation on the show. I need
him to go in there with the straight man and
show them how it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh, listen to you. I would like to see more
of some of his home life.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What do you think about Austin Givens shop the silent treatment?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
They're setting up the fact that he's basically saying, all
this time, I thought they're my real friends, but really
they're the show friends, right? Is that what you gathered
from what this conversation is? Yea, And I feel like
Madison because they have been so horrendous to her. She's
relishing and kind of getting in there and getting in
Austin's head and making him feel like they're actually not friends,
(22:51):
which I don't think. So do you really think that
they aren't really true friends?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think they're friends.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I do too.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, it's crazy that this show is driven mostly.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
By the men, right, I know it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I feel like we need the girls to get more involved.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But what do you think that the Craig Thruple triangle
storyline is is interesting? Like do you do you want
to see Sally and fight over him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I do, I do, okay, And I want to see
it move a little faster and he needs to move
a little faster, like he's in a hot tub with
a girl for four hours and he doesn't even try anything.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But also, why are there not summer house cameras up
above that hot tub if they're going to be there
every goddamn night. This is the second time which she
said we were there till four thirty in the morning.
First of all, what do you do until four thirty
in the morning if you're not having sex? I know,
I know, four thirty in the morning in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Unless they are, and she's just not admitting it. I
don't know. You know, Craig is very sensitive. Oh this time,
he's so sens he needs to sew a few pillows
and then journal about it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I oh, Craig, I should I think I can listen
to you say the word pillows on a loop. You
should do. You should do voice voice ads for Craig
conoverse pillow lie.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Hell yeah. But he, like Austin's giving Shep the silent treatment,
and Shep is trying to get Molly to fix things, like, yeah,
you call him. Don't tell him that I said that,
but you call him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know what? I think? I think Shep is actually
his manipulation is at work again, because he's at least
giving Molly something to do on this show. True, Like
he's saying, get in there, help us figure this out
and get airtime and cast some problems. Otherwise, Mal's we're
just talking about your tuba, and I don't want to
(24:52):
talk about your tub.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Oh my god. Well, Madison, when she comes whatever, she'd
admit she was disappointed in Craig's behavior at the party.
I wanh wanh want I loved it. Austin. Austin surprises friend,
best friend betrayed him. But are you, Austin, are you
really surprised? But Madison isn't, and they flashed back to
Craig's You know, the flashbacks were pretty intense of him
(25:20):
screaming and yelling, and then I thought, for a second,
Craig scares me, and I'm like, nah, I'd probably fuck
with him just to make him explode.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh my god, you said a fresha and think you
were going to have the with in there. You said
I'd probably fuck with him, And for one beat I
was like, Oh, she couldn't say it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it's good though.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is one other little point. It goes back to
what Molly tried to call out Sally, And then in
the flashbacks we see every time they say to Craig,
are you drunk? Or you drunk? Are you drunk? Aren't
all of them just always drunk on this show? Like, yes,
that's the point of this show.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Insinuate he as a drinking problem, and like we all,
like all Bravo shows, we're drinking. But there's a difference
between getting drunk and being an asshole and being having
a drinking problem. Like I always say I have a
drunk problem. I don't drink very often, but when I do,
I have a drunk problem. I'm an asshole. But there
(26:20):
I think they think he's got a drinking problem.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, he's been open about his struggles with other substances
as well, Like, it's not like he hasn't admitted it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So they're scared if he gets starts drinking a lot,
then he's going to end up in rehab or something.
I don't know. But you know what, he's the only
one that's really doing much on the show right now.
We lost JT. And remember he was the show idiot.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right I mean, But also Craig is very he is
like a charismatic person, right, Yes, he's easy to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, yes, where T was not.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, that's AJT. But yeah, but so who cares if
he has a personality disorder as well as an addiction?
Who cares? He's great TV?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Where is good TV? Stop trying to silence him?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
But yeah, I mean I thought it was a good episode.
I enjoy Southern charm. I don't know if you do,
but I do.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm I did not, but now I this this episode,
I was like, Okay, I get it because it's a
different thing watching men be messy like this.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah. So I wasn't like original watcher of the show,
like I think when the first show came out, I
watched a few episodes and then when we started recapping
it was it like last year or the year before.
Then I started watching it. So I am invested now,
But I still want to go back and watch those
earlier seasons.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I want to see more of Patricia. So I think
maybe she was more involved in earlier seasons.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
So I would love a show revolving around that woman.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know, Whitney's the producer.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, isn't that weird create the show?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think, yeah, yep, you are going to create the
show and then I'm going to have a small part
in it. But I need my mom to be in
it as well.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But I think he was more active earlier too, Like
I think he was more active in the actual story, now,
was he not?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah? Yeah, we haven't seen much of him this season.
Like he's there. He'll show to a party, but he
doesn't really say much.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's fine. His hair terrifies me, it's always different.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I feel like every single year it's a different. Yeah,
but that's it for the episode. Guys, thank you so
much for tuning in for episode four of Southern Charm,
and we'll see you next week.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Tamra Judge
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