August 2, 2021 • 30 mins
It's on everyone's minds again. Covid, the Delta Variant, and Teddi is revealing it happened to her. Fully vaccinated with a breakthrough case and she's sharing her story.
Teddi reveals what happened to her recently that she ended up with a black eye and cut lip.
What is vertigo? Does Teddi have it and what to do about it?
Dr. Abe Malkin joins Teddi to help us through it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Teddy Tea Pod with Hey guys, welcome to
this week's Teddy Tea Pod. I am excited to talk
to you guys. It's you know, it's always great to
have Instagram and be able to share things, but it's
a lot different to share things via a caption or
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you know, an ends the story that runs out in
fifteen seconds. So I'm grateful that you guys tune in,
that you listen, and I hope that you know, by
being sharing and me being vulnerable, that you're able to,
you know, you know, either feel like you're not alone,
or feel like, oh my gosh, that's happening to a
friend of mine, or oh I really want to hear
(00:45):
this information, but regardless. Later on in the episode, I'm
going to have on Dr Abe Malcolm he Um is
the founder and medical director of Concierge m d l A,
a home based concierge medical practice, and he's supposed to
be an incredible doctor, and I'm going to bring him
on to ask him, you know, all of the questions
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that I had and then also I saw so many
different kind of questions and thoughts and theories in regards
to what happened to me on Saturday. UM. I don't
know if you guys have all seen it it, UM,
but as a long story short, I well, a while back,
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I had COVID, and UM, I didn't really talk about
it because I was just really focused on making sure
that I was healthy and my family was healthy, my
husband was healthy, and you know, we were doing the
best that we could. UM. And you know, I learned
a lot of things in the process. UM. I was
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vaccinated UM and my husband was not, which he has
since realized, like what a big mistake that was, UM,
and really, like, you know, in his mind, he's just like, well,
your vaccinated, We're good. I'm staying in the house. You know.
He had all those justifications that I know a lot
of people out there have. But what ended up happening is,
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you know, we both had COVID and we had to
quarantine from our family, and we're actually from each other
because at first, UM he tested positive first, so he,
you know, was quarantined and then I had a feeling,
so I just quarantined myself as well into another room
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until I ended up testing positive. And both of our
reactions to COVID were very different. UM. I got through it.
Quicker like I was probably only six sick for like
six days, where his was a full you know, fifteen UM.
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But and you know, total mind games. Some days you
think that you're good and then the next day you're
having these intense sweats and then you know, you have
my chest really hurt, and then ribs and then for
Ed when he was super weak, and just it was
so many different things, and it really was a great
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reminder how important it is, you know, to get vaccinated.
And you know, if people are saying wear a mask,
wear a mask, you know, do whatever you can, because
I can say how extremely difficult it was to not
be around my kids and to be you know, so
worried of giving it to them, you know, especially because
Slate has an autoimmune disease. And I just it was
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a lot, and I wasn't really ready to talk about it.
But now here we are, UM and and really what
what triggered me talking about it is what happened to me,
you know, much later, which was this past Saturday, UM
during COVID. The entire time when I had it, I
I my biggest thing that I was feeling was what
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I called vertigo. I'm not a dot. After I don't
know what it is, but I would feel like I
was laying on a waterbed, and then when I'd get up,
I'd feel dizzy. And it kind of lingered with me
even post COVID and had been continuing to happen, but
nothing so severe, but enough so that like anybody that
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follows me s, he's like, I used to run like
eight miles a day. I haven't been doing that. Like
I've been much more, you know, a bike or walk
or do a little jog or whatever it may be.
But my lifestyle has had to shift a little bit
because of this lingering, you know, kind of dizzy feeling
that I was getting um. But you know, enough time
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had passed that I'm like, this shouldn't be you know,
they shouldn't be from from having COVID before. What could
this be? I don't really know, but I was putting
it to the back, like I was putting it in
as part of the back burner. But then a wake
up call happened. Um. You know, I'm not someone who
loves to go to the doctor, to be perfectly honest,
and I'm not someone, you know, but who wants to
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complain about not feeling well and all of those things.
You know, when it comes to my mental health, I'm
pretty open and vulnerable when I'm struggling. But when it
comes to my physical health, I've always had anxiety around
seeing doctors. Um. But uh so yeah. On Saturday night,
I went to sleep around like I always do. UM
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and one and I both fell asleep. Cruise was in
our room, but like he has his own little bed
at the end of the end of our bed where
he sometimes sleeps. And um Slate was having a sleepover
with her best friend. And I had been told, you know, there,
UM is a chance that you know, she may wake
up in the middle of the night and want to
come home. If that happens, UM, just give us a
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call and we'll come get her. I thought, you know
nothing of it. My kids wake up in the middle
of the night all the time. You know, it is
what it is. You know, the girls really wanted to
do this, and you know they love each other so great. Um.
At four am, Uh, I hear mom, mom, and I
jumped up like fast and ran into the room. And
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by the time I got there, I just I couldn't
even get my bearings. I couldn't my whole like eyes
went black and I fainted, and I remember feeling I
don't even really remember, like I just remember fainting and
then just worrying about like I hope the kids are okay,
what's going on? And then I tried to quickly pull
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myself up, which I have since learned you're not supposed
to do. And when I did that is when I
really fell hard and like crashed into my lip and
my I have you know, a bit of a black
eye and my cheek and you know, I have a
lot of makeup on now, but either way, it's it
was really painful, and it was dark in the room.
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But then I somehow managed to just you know, kind
of lay there, and so it's like, Mom, are you okay?
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm fine, honey, you know,
because you just you go into fight or flight mode
and you just want your kids to feel safe. And I,
you know, asked her friend, are you okay, and she's like, yeah,
I just was wondering if you could be in here
for a little bit because I was having a hard
time sleeping. So like they didn't really understand the magnitude
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of what was going on, and it's like kind of
just like handing me a blanket and I laid on
the floor in the room. And then when I came
to really in the morning and like you know, hobbled
into the room with Edwin, He's like, what is what happened?
And you know, my face and my lip everything was bleeding.
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Luckily I cleaned myself up before you know, the kids
had to fully see what was going on. Um, but
it was a really scary experience and um, I still
felt really foggy and you know, just not like myself
ever since. And you know, but I'm one of those
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people that when something happens, I am diligent about wanting
to understand why it happened on wanting to you know,
first my first priorities making sure the kids were okay.
They were fine, you know, they were like that, how
did that happen? Did you stand up too quick? You know,
like we all kind of tried to laugh about it.
I tried to cover my face and like, you know,
explain that it hurt, and then asks like, you know,
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in the future, if this ever happens to mommy, please
go get daddy. So you're just they're helping me by yourself,
just like, oh, I didn't want to wake up Cruise,
and you seemed okay, you asked for a blankie. So
like it, you know, all of these things, um, you know,
really really hit me. And you know, so part of
it is my own anxiety about not wanting it to
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happen again, but also just trying to understand where this
is coming from and something that I've learned by you know,
things that I've looked at and so far, I've seen,
you know, a chiropractor. I've seen you know, had somebody
do them. Now I'm gonna blank on the name, but
I'll ask the doctor when he's here. Like that. There's
a method that you do that's supposed to help I
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an appointment book with an E and T. I. Um,
I'm getting my blood work today actually as soon as
I'm done with this podcast, because I want to rule
out all things. But something that I have heard is
this is a lingering effect post COVID, So it's something
that I want to understand. I want to ask all
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of the questions about what's going on with COVID right now,
how we can protect ourselves, what we should be doing,
if there's any sort of supplements or vitamins or what
I need to do to make sure that this, you know,
doesn't happen to others. And you know, so that's really
what I wanted to do this podcast about. I'm sorry
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that it's not like more fun in nature. Originally I
was like, oh, we'll talk about why you know, forties
birthday rager. But you know, I think that this is
much more pressing and I really just want to provide
you guys with as much info as you can so
you can protect yourselves in your family. So, UM, let's
take a little break and then when we come back,
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I'll bring on Dr Abe Malcolm. Hi, Dr Malcolm, how
are you? I'm great, Thank you, thanks so much for
joining us. I did your intro already, and you know
everyone's excited to get started and hear from you. Um
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to give you, oh I'm okay, you know, to give
you a little backstory. A while back, I had COVID
and one of the lingering things that has been happening
with me has been what I have assumed is vertigo.
Have you heard that That's a common thing to happen.
So there's so many long haul effects of COVID, vertigo
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is definitely one of them. If you think about. You know,
covid at its core really just caused inflammation in the body.
And whenever you have inflammation, you can get uh fluid production,
and the cause of vertigo essentially is fluid in the
inner ear that messes up the alignment of the bones
and other structures in the inner ear, so you feel
like you're moving even when you're not moving right. So,
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any inflammation or fluid build up or whatnot can cause vertigo.
So that's very common with and how long do you
think it does? It just depend on the patient, because
you know, I had it a while ago. Why is
it still affecting me now? Yeah, So it really depends
on your body's response to inflammation. So women tend to
have more of a severe post infection reaction to covid
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because they just generally have more inflammatory state in their body,
which is why they tend to get more blood cloths,
more complications symptoms like vertigo. So I'd say women more
than men, tend to be more affected. And then anyone
who generally speaking, is more prone to inflammation will have
a worse time with COVID than someone who and purely
these are just genetic factors. Some people are more prone
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to inflammation than others. I mean, the part that was
a little bit wild to me was, you know, back
when we did have COVID, my husband had COVID as well. Um,
I was vaccinated, and I seemingly felt like I moved
through COVID pretty quickly and he was not, which is
you know, obviously he's like that was an ignorant choice
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that I made, Like I regret that I didn't, you know,
but he had a much more severe case in the moment,
Like every day for him was, you know, worse and
worse and worse. We're like, I had a couple of
days where I was like, what's going on? You know,
but his was just have you seen that as well?
But what's the difference between you know, vax and anti
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vax sure, And so he was actual wasn't He wasn't.
I was and he was not. So that really comes
down to your primary immune system's your secondary immune system.
So let's say you encounter someone who's sick and you're
not vaccinated, So your your body has B cells, which
helped prevent infection. They fight initially fight infection to help
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you not get a severe infection. Once you've gotten vaccinator,
once you've had an infection, your body now has what's
called T cells. They essentially remember the virus or the
infection and then have antibodies to fight it. So in
your initial response to a to an infection, when you're
not vaccinated, that's your B cells, your primary immune system.
In your case, you had a T cell response, a
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secondary response from your secondary immune system. So your husband
just might have a stronger B cell primary immune system
than you, and that's why he had an easier time initially.
But then in the long term, you know, once his
secondary immune system is pulled in, he may not have
as good of a secondary immune response as you. That's
a differentiating factor between different types of OFFCT. You know,
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I'm hearing about this a lot. How would you describe
to to people right now that are not wanting to
get vaccinated, how important that it is because what people
are seeing now is vaccinated and unvaccinated people are getting COVID.
So how is an edge CATERD way to explain to
somebody listen, you know, because and you know, I just
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know I'm passionate about it. I'm like, no, you need
to be vaccinated because we need to protect you know,
our community and ourselves. But then people will say, well,
you know, especially like people that will follow me on
Instagram or whatever, but they'll be like, well, people that
are vaccinated get it, So what does it matter? So
analogy is like a like air bag in the car,
So it's not going to stop you from getting into
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the accident, but when you get into the accident, you
have an air bag to essentially lessen the load that
you of the impact that you feel from that car accident.
So what the vaccine does is it lessons that that
response that you get to COVID and diminishes it because
your body already has circulating antibodies, so you may not
see as high an amplitude of an effect from getting
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the virus as someone who's unvaccinated. Um And you can
use that analogy of the air bag to to essentially understand,
like the impact still happens, you just don't fuel the
impact as much because you have an air bag there.
And that's the vaccine. Okay, I like that. I'm using it.
Um And and kind of going back to the vertigo
a little bit. What are some so so far for me,
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I have done acupuncture, I've done that. I'm going to
pronounce it wrong effortly method, Yeah, definitely, yeah, really maneuver
and I'm getting blood work and I'm also going to
an e n T. But like, what are some remedies
to help ease the symptoms? So, if it's being caused
by fluid in the inner ear, which is very possible,
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you want to try to decongest as much as possible.
So I would use some flowing as you know, twice
a day in each nostril, maybe a nettie pot. I
don't if you've used one of those before. You kind
of pour fluid and one side of your nose, it
goes through and comes out the other. And the idea
that as you want to really flush out all the fluid,
you could also perhaps go to a steam room to
help get steam therapy to help loosen up some of
the mucus and the congestion in your inner ear and
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your sinus passages. Whatever you can do to clear out
gung schmutz fluid in your inner ear, cavity and pathways
will help you a lot. And I have you noticed that,
you know, regardless of covid or not, when it comes
to vertical like some of the people that we're writing
in we're saying, like I've been struggling with this for years,
Like how come some people, you know, you can do
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those things and it'll go away, and some it sticks
with you. Yeah, it's really a matter of again, your
body's lingering inflammatory effects, so some people tend to just
be in a pro inflammatory state. Things that enhance inflammation
in your body, stress, toxins, lack of sleep, caffeine, these
things all lead to a pro inflammatory state. So for anyone,
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you know, whether you have verigo or not, and you're
concerned about your your your your risk of COVID, I
would say, do things to lower inflammation. So meditate, get
good sleep, reduced toxins, eat a diet that's low in
inflammatory foods, like things like spicy foods, alcohol, toxins like
that will cause inflam inflammation in your body. Um so
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for you, for sure, because of the symptoms that you're having,
but even for anyone whether or they have COVID, those
are all really important factors to help diminish any possible
effects of COVID. And do you think there's like a
certain way that you should be getting up so that
you don't aren't prom you know, I I felt dizzy
in my life before. But I've always been able to
catch myself. So the fact that I wasn't, I didn't
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even have that like ability is what scared me and
now why I'm in my own head about it. Right.
I think for most people, your body's compensatory effect when
you stand up is to recalibrate. And your body can
recalibrate normally just fine in your case, because you've essentially
shifted the very very tight alignment of bones and fluid
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and the inner ear. That's why you're, you know, exhibiting
these effects. Uh. So for for you, for sure, you know,
decongest as much as possible, you know, using those methods
that we talked about, uh and then try other methods
to help produce inflammation in your body relating to your diet,
your sleep, to your stress, and other factors that really
affect that. So you think stress can add to Certainly,
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stress increases cortisol. Cortisol directly increases inflammation in your body.
You know, we take it for granted, but that's a
very common reason people's immune systems are diminished. Um, they're
more prone to infection, the more prone to adverse reactions
from getting infection. That's a really big, you know, prognostic indicator.
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It's really good to know. And then now that there
is the delta variant, have you noticed a difference and
the lasting effects from COVID nineteen versus the delta variant,
or how do you know which one you've gotten, or
any of those types of things. You know, in the community,
there really isn't a lot of testing around delta. It's
we just assume people get delta when they're when they've
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been vaccinated, just because the vaccines so uh susceptible to
the delta variant. Um that being said, I certainly am
seeing diminished symptoms and those who are vaccinated versus those
who are unvaccinated. In terms of the length of a sickness,
it's relatively mild so far. What I've seen in most
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people who are vaccinated, you know, two to three days
of symptoms, really feeling completely better within five days, versus
those that are unvaccinated, you know, symptoms ranging from a
week to fourteen days. And then would you say that
there's a different way that people should be protecting themselves
if they're unvaccinated versus vaccinated currently, because I mean, right now,
the delta variants out with a vengeance, right, I mean,
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you know, sadly, for those that are unvaccinated, it's really
going back to the things we were doing in December
and January, so really masks all the time, social distancing,
avoiding large groups. Uh, those are all the things that
that show still should be in place for people who
are unvaccinated. And then what about for vaccinated you know,
I think it's it's this is a you know, balance
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between living your life and living with the risk of COVID.
You know, given that for most people who have vaccinated,
the risk of severe consequences is extremely low. You know,
it's really a personal voice. Getting COVID for someone who's
vaccinated is most likely not going to be worth any
worse than getting the flu. So whether is so assuming
you don't have underlying conditions and you're not at health
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risk otherwise, you know, I think you should take, you know,
reasonable efforts to avoid getting it. But I still think
people need to be able to live their lives and uh,
if they are vaccinated, they can do so in a
fairly normal fashion. And then do you think that currently
it's spreading faster in LA than anywhere else in the
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United States? I think l a is just such a
unique population where we have a lot of people who
are working in fact in factories and other places where
they have to go to work and cannot work remotely,
that whenever we see a spike, we see a spike
in those populations, and that trails down to the rest
of the rest of the population. In other cities where
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it's more remote workers and uh, you know, more farmland
and things like that, it doesn't seem to spike quite
as quickly in those places. However. I mean, we do
testing all over the country and we're seeing spikes in
New York and Florida, Washington and really all over the country.
And what would you say is what type of symptoms
should you be having when like you know, now you
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need to like go to the hospital or you need
to go to the doctor. Because you know, we have
a friend who also somebody that was unvaccinated who got COVID.
I don't know if it's a delta variant or this,
I'm not sure, but um who's hospitalized and like very
very ill and didn't go for a long time because
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you know, Grant and Barrett, I'm gonna get through it.
And then you know, really having a hard time breathing,
like it has the tubes everything, So like, how do
you how do you know when it's time. I'm sorry
to hear that that your friend is going through that.
I think to uh, you know, relatively easy things to
track at home would be your temperature and your oxygen saturation.
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So I think fevers you know, in the hundred and
one ange are relatively normal for COVID. Once it's getting
up to a hundred three hundred four, it's really hard
for your body to maintain its homeostasis and it's hydration
status at that level. So that's that's the time you
should really think about going to the hospital. In terms
of auction level, you know, your body's normal auction levels
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around if it's if you're struggling a little bit, it
could be down to you may not feel it, but
if it's lower than three range, that's when you should
consider going to the hospital. And then just final question
to leave it on like a more of a positive note,
what are some things that we could be doing to
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like boost our immune system right now that you know,
either supplements or you know, like I know that just
me being in sunshine and you know, having freasure, I'm
going on a walk and meditating help. But what what
else could we be doing? Yeah, and I'm sure we've
all heard these over the last year, but I'll reiterate.
You know, first of all, sleep is super important. I
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try to get eight hour to sleep at night, and
I know for not everyone everyone that's not possible, but
really trying to get to that is really critical. Your
body repairs itself when you sleep. It's really important for
your immune system. In terms of your diet, you know,
people do tend to eat a lot of toxins in
their diet, and a lot of people don't even know
necessarily that they're bringing food into their body which is
causing inflammation. So you know, if you want to get
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a food sensitivity test and find out if you have
small sensitivities to shellfish or nuts or other toxins, and
that's really helpful. Cutting down an alcohol and other toxins
can be helpful too for people. I know a lot
of people resorted to drinking during helse to do, but
you know, hopefully now they can get outside and and
go exercise. What you mentioned is another really important way
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of maintaining your immune system, maintaining your health, and and
really trying to stay in your tip top health. Uh
you know, mindfulness and meditation whatever that means for you.
For me, when I go running, I zone out and
it really is helpful for me. Other people do yoga,
other people meditate. So those are some really important things
you can do to maintain health. Well, I love this.
Thank you so much for sharing with us. And where
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do people if they want to come to your concert, Like,
where do they find you? So even better, we will
come to you. We do house calls all over Los
Angeles um At Concierge m d l A. That's the
name of the clinic. We do ID therapy, COVID testing,
other in home services all over the country through drip hydration.
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So we we really try to bring the services that
you would get at the urgent care directly to your house. Well,
now you're in trouble because now I've got your info.
So thank you so much for taking the time, my pleasure,
Take care. Bye. So we're gonna take a little break
here and then we're going to open up the phone
lines and see if we have time for a caller too.
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Hi Gina, Yeah, Hi, thanks for calling in. How's it going?
It's on? Wow? Thank you. How are you doing. I'm
hanging in, hanging in, happy to be here. I don't
really know any backstory on you. I just know that
you're calling in something in regards to COVID, and I
would love to hear your story, if you don't mind
sharing it with our listeners. Yeah, no, of course. I
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I got COVID last February. Um, if you, And actually
it was my uh somebody, I think it was. My
husband was asymptomatic, and so I got it, and luckily
my I have two boys, and luckily they didn't get it.
And I saw my mom the day that I was
feeling all these I just felt really crummy and felt
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really like my body ached everywhere and horrible abdominal pain.
But I went to go see my mom and thank
god I wore a mask because I was with her
inside for a while and um, and then I went
home and got super sick that night, just with like
full body aches, like just chills. Um. And then I
lasted for like three weeks where I was literally in
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bed and um, couldn't you know, could barely sleep. It
felt like my muscles would being torn apart and um.
And then I had residual for two and a half.
I had residual for two and a half months, um
and uh. And then I had my first VISOR shot
when I was able to get it, and I still
had horrible pains. And then after my second visor shot,
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everything went away, all my pains, everything went away. So
it's like saved me. But well, that is a huge
that that's an excellent story to share for anybody out
there who you know has already had COVID and they're like, oh,
I don't need to get vaccinated for it. Just recently,
just a week ago, my brother came back from l
A with his family and to his son and his
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wife got the Delta variant and they both been vaccinated.
She got the Johnson and Johnson vaccination and she is
horribly ill still. And the son had VISOR and he
has he's positive, but he doesn't have any symptoms. But
he went around and saw my mom too, and thank
god he wore a mask because he would have killed her.
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So we're just you know, mask, mask work, back work,
and you can still get it even if you have
been vaccinated. I know I feel the same way. I mean,
right now, you know our kids are in you know,
outdoor sports camp type things, and you know, some some
of the moms have been like, oh, I don't want
our kids to have to wear a mask, and I'm like, truthfully,
my kids they're at the point they don't even say anything,
they don't even notice. It doesn't bother them, Like, and
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I just think it's so important for us all to
remember that, like, the you know, the more we do
to protect the people in our lives, the better that
everybody's gonna in our community and other kids, because especially
like something happens and then like the whole pod will
shut down or then the championships. Yeah, I mean my son,
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I've once on that eleven, so he can't get a
shot yet, and so people, you know, then you just
have to worry about him around people because you know,
people who aren't vaccinated aren't wearing masks, so you gotta
it's gotta mask work. I mean, I literally almost killed
my mom and my brother almost killed my mom, so
and we were wearing masks around her, thank god, And
she never got anything, no, thank god. And she's eighty
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two when she's got long issues and so I was,
I mean, it was like it would have been horrible.
So well, Gina, I can't thank you enough for sharing,
and this is just a really good reminder to all
of us, you know, wear a mask especially, or get vaccinated,
and so we can be done with this. Yeah, let's
move on. Let's let's get back to you know, different
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types of conversations, having fun, being healthy, and you know,
I appreciate you coming on to share with us today.
And yes, well, thank you, thank you, and bless you
for wearing that mask and taking care of your mom. Yes,
thank you, thank you, stay safe. Thanks all right, bye bye.
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So thanks you guys for joining this week's Teddy Teapot.
I know parts of it were a little heavy, but
I just I wanted to share with you guys, and
I wanted to share everything you know through my actual
voice because I think it can you know, things can
be lost in translation via via things written out. So
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you know, I appreciate you, guys, I appreciate the support.
I hope that some of the things that you heard
today will help you guys and will help resonate. Um,
you know, if somebody else in your life is struggling
with any of these things. And uh, maybe next week
or maybe I'm sorry, maybe uh next t pot will
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This is Teddy Tea Pod with Hey guys, welcome to
this week's Teddy Tea Pod. I am excited to talk
to you guys. It's you know, it's always great to
have Instagram and be able to share things, but it's
a lot different to share things via a caption or
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you know, an ends the story that runs out in
fifteen seconds. So I'm grateful that you guys tune in,
that you listen, and I hope that you know, by
being sharing and me being vulnerable, that you're able to,
you know, you know, either feel like you're not alone,
or feel like, oh my gosh, that's happening to a
friend of mine, or oh I really want to hear
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this information, but regardless. Later on in the episode, I'm
going to have on Dr Abe Malcolm he Um is
the founder and medical director of Concierge m d l A,
a home based concierge medical practice, and he's supposed to
be an incredible doctor, and I'm going to bring him
on to ask him, you know, all of the questions
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that I had and then also I saw so many
different kind of questions and thoughts and theories in regards
to what happened to me on Saturday. UM. I don't
know if you guys have all seen it it, UM,
but as a long story short, I well, a while back,
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I had COVID, and UM, I didn't really talk about
it because I was just really focused on making sure
that I was healthy and my family was healthy, my
husband was healthy, and you know, we were doing the
best that we could. UM. And you know, I learned
a lot of things in the process. UM. I was
(01:51):
vaccinated UM and my husband was not, which he has
since realized, like what a big mistake that was, UM,
and really, like, you know, in his mind, he's just like, well,
your vaccinated, We're good. I'm staying in the house. You know.
He had all those justifications that I know a lot
of people out there have. But what ended up happening is,
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you know, we both had COVID and we had to
quarantine from our family, and we're actually from each other
because at first, UM he tested positive first, so he,
you know, was quarantined and then I had a feeling,
so I just quarantined myself as well into another room
(02:33):
until I ended up testing positive. And both of our
reactions to COVID were very different. UM. I got through it.
Quicker like I was probably only six sick for like
six days, where his was a full you know, fifteen UM.
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But and you know, total mind games. Some days you
think that you're good and then the next day you're
having these intense sweats and then you know, you have
my chest really hurt, and then ribs and then for
Ed when he was super weak, and just it was
so many different things, and it really was a great
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reminder how important it is, you know, to get vaccinated.
And you know, if people are saying wear a mask,
wear a mask, you know, do whatever you can, because
I can say how extremely difficult it was to not
be around my kids and to be you know, so
worried of giving it to them, you know, especially because
Slate has an autoimmune disease. And I just it was
(03:37):
a lot, and I wasn't really ready to talk about it.
But now here we are, UM and and really what
what triggered me talking about it is what happened to me,
you know, much later, which was this past Saturday, UM
during COVID. The entire time when I had it, I
I my biggest thing that I was feeling was what
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I called vertigo. I'm not a dot. After I don't
know what it is, but I would feel like I
was laying on a waterbed, and then when I'd get up,
I'd feel dizzy. And it kind of lingered with me
even post COVID and had been continuing to happen, but
nothing so severe, but enough so that like anybody that
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follows me s, he's like, I used to run like
eight miles a day. I haven't been doing that. Like
I've been much more, you know, a bike or walk
or do a little jog or whatever it may be.
But my lifestyle has had to shift a little bit
because of this lingering, you know, kind of dizzy feeling
that I was getting um. But you know, enough time
(04:40):
had passed that I'm like, this shouldn't be you know,
they shouldn't be from from having COVID before. What could
this be? I don't really know, but I was putting
it to the back, like I was putting it in
as part of the back burner. But then a wake
up call happened. Um. You know, I'm not someone who
loves to go to the doctor, to be perfectly honest,
and I'm not someone, you know, but who wants to
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complain about not feeling well and all of those things.
You know, when it comes to my mental health, I'm
pretty open and vulnerable when I'm struggling. But when it
comes to my physical health, I've always had anxiety around
seeing doctors. Um. But uh so yeah. On Saturday night,
I went to sleep around like I always do. UM
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and one and I both fell asleep. Cruise was in
our room, but like he has his own little bed
at the end of the end of our bed where
he sometimes sleeps. And um Slate was having a sleepover
with her best friend. And I had been told, you know, there,
UM is a chance that you know, she may wake
up in the middle of the night and want to
come home. If that happens, UM, just give us a
(05:44):
call and we'll come get her. I thought, you know
nothing of it. My kids wake up in the middle
of the night all the time. You know, it is
what it is. You know, the girls really wanted to
do this, and you know they love each other so great. Um.
At four am, Uh, I hear mom, mom, and I
jumped up like fast and ran into the room. And
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by the time I got there, I just I couldn't
even get my bearings. I couldn't my whole like eyes
went black and I fainted, and I remember feeling I
don't even really remember, like I just remember fainting and
then just worrying about like I hope the kids are okay,
what's going on? And then I tried to quickly pull
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myself up, which I have since learned you're not supposed
to do. And when I did that is when I
really fell hard and like crashed into my lip and
my I have you know, a bit of a black
eye and my cheek and you know, I have a
lot of makeup on now, but either way, it's it
was really painful, and it was dark in the room.
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But then I somehow managed to just you know, kind
of lay there, and so it's like, Mom, are you okay?
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm fine, honey, you know,
because you just you go into fight or flight mode
and you just want your kids to feel safe. And I,
you know, asked her friend, are you okay, and she's like, yeah,
I just was wondering if you could be in here
for a little bit because I was having a hard
time sleeping. So like they didn't really understand the magnitude
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of what was going on, and it's like kind of
just like handing me a blanket and I laid on
the floor in the room. And then when I came
to really in the morning and like you know, hobbled
into the room with Edwin, He's like, what is what happened?
And you know, my face and my lip everything was bleeding.
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Luckily I cleaned myself up before you know, the kids
had to fully see what was going on. Um, but
it was a really scary experience and um, I still
felt really foggy and you know, just not like myself
ever since. And you know, but I'm one of those
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people that when something happens, I am diligent about wanting
to understand why it happened on wanting to you know,
first my first priorities making sure the kids were okay.
They were fine, you know, they were like that, how
did that happen? Did you stand up too quick? You know,
like we all kind of tried to laugh about it.
I tried to cover my face and like, you know,
explain that it hurt, and then asks like, you know,
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in the future, if this ever happens to mommy, please
go get daddy. So you're just they're helping me by yourself,
just like, oh, I didn't want to wake up Cruise,
and you seemed okay, you asked for a blankie. So
like it, you know, all of these things, um, you know,
really really hit me. And you know, so part of
it is my own anxiety about not wanting it to
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happen again, but also just trying to understand where this
is coming from and something that I've learned by you know,
things that I've looked at and so far, I've seen,
you know, a chiropractor. I've seen you know, had somebody
do them. Now I'm gonna blank on the name, but
I'll ask the doctor when he's here. Like that. There's
a method that you do that's supposed to help I
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an appointment book with an E and T. I. Um,
I'm getting my blood work today actually as soon as
I'm done with this podcast, because I want to rule
out all things. But something that I have heard is
this is a lingering effect post COVID, So it's something
that I want to understand. I want to ask all
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of the questions about what's going on with COVID right now,
how we can protect ourselves, what we should be doing,
if there's any sort of supplements or vitamins or what
I need to do to make sure that this, you know,
doesn't happen to others. And you know, so that's really
what I wanted to do this podcast about. I'm sorry
(09:43):
that it's not like more fun in nature. Originally I
was like, oh, we'll talk about why you know, forties
birthday rager. But you know, I think that this is
much more pressing and I really just want to provide
you guys with as much info as you can so
you can protect yourselves in your family. So, UM, let's
take a little break and then when we come back,
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I'll bring on Dr Abe Malcolm. Hi, Dr Malcolm, how
are you? I'm great, Thank you, thanks so much for
joining us. I did your intro already, and you know
everyone's excited to get started and hear from you. Um
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to give you, oh I'm okay, you know, to give
you a little backstory. A while back, I had COVID
and one of the lingering things that has been happening
with me has been what I have assumed is vertigo.
Have you heard that That's a common thing to happen.
So there's so many long haul effects of COVID, vertigo
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is definitely one of them. If you think about. You know,
covid at its core really just caused inflammation in the body.
And whenever you have inflammation, you can get uh fluid production,
and the cause of vertigo essentially is fluid in the
inner ear that messes up the alignment of the bones
and other structures in the inner ear, so you feel
like you're moving even when you're not moving right. So,
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any inflammation or fluid build up or whatnot can cause vertigo.
So that's very common with and how long do you
think it does? It just depend on the patient, because
you know, I had it a while ago. Why is
it still affecting me now? Yeah, So it really depends
on your body's response to inflammation. So women tend to
have more of a severe post infection reaction to covid
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because they just generally have more inflammatory state in their body,
which is why they tend to get more blood cloths,
more complications symptoms like vertigo. So I'd say women more
than men, tend to be more affected. And then anyone
who generally speaking, is more prone to inflammation will have
a worse time with COVID than someone who and purely
these are just genetic factors. Some people are more prone
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to inflammation than others. I mean, the part that was
a little bit wild to me was, you know, back
when we did have COVID, my husband had COVID as well. Um,
I was vaccinated, and I seemingly felt like I moved
through COVID pretty quickly and he was not, which is
you know, obviously he's like that was an ignorant choice
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that I made, Like I regret that I didn't, you know,
but he had a much more severe case in the moment,
Like every day for him was, you know, worse and
worse and worse. We're like, I had a couple of
days where I was like, what's going on? You know,
but his was just have you seen that as well?
But what's the difference between you know, vax and anti
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vax sure, And so he was actual wasn't He wasn't.
I was and he was not. So that really comes
down to your primary immune system's your secondary immune system.
So let's say you encounter someone who's sick and you're
not vaccinated, So your your body has B cells, which
helped prevent infection. They fight initially fight infection to help
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you not get a severe infection. Once you've gotten vaccinator,
once you've had an infection, your body now has what's
called T cells. They essentially remember the virus or the
infection and then have antibodies to fight it. So in
your initial response to a to an infection, when you're
not vaccinated, that's your B cells, your primary immune system.
In your case, you had a T cell response, a
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secondary response from your secondary immune system. So your husband
just might have a stronger B cell primary immune system
than you, and that's why he had an easier time initially.
But then in the long term, you know, once his
secondary immune system is pulled in, he may not have
as good of a secondary immune response as you. That's
a differentiating factor between different types of OFFCT. You know,
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I'm hearing about this a lot. How would you describe
to to people right now that are not wanting to
get vaccinated, how important that it is because what people
are seeing now is vaccinated and unvaccinated people are getting COVID.
So how is an edge CATERD way to explain to
somebody listen, you know, because and you know, I just
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know I'm passionate about it. I'm like, no, you need
to be vaccinated because we need to protect you know,
our community and ourselves. But then people will say, well,
you know, especially like people that will follow me on
Instagram or whatever, but they'll be like, well, people that
are vaccinated get it, So what does it matter? So
analogy is like a like air bag in the car,
So it's not going to stop you from getting into
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the accident, but when you get into the accident, you
have an air bag to essentially lessen the load that
you of the impact that you feel from that car accident.
So what the vaccine does is it lessons that that
response that you get to COVID and diminishes it because
your body already has circulating antibodies, so you may not
see as high an amplitude of an effect from getting
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the virus as someone who's unvaccinated. Um And you can
use that analogy of the air bag to to essentially understand,
like the impact still happens, you just don't fuel the
impact as much because you have an air bag there.
And that's the vaccine. Okay, I like that. I'm using it.
Um And and kind of going back to the vertigo
a little bit. What are some so so far for me,
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I have done acupuncture, I've done that. I'm going to
pronounce it wrong effortly method, Yeah, definitely, yeah, really maneuver
and I'm getting blood work and I'm also going to
an e n T. But like, what are some remedies
to help ease the symptoms? So, if it's being caused
by fluid in the inner ear, which is very possible,
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you want to try to decongest as much as possible.
So I would use some flowing as you know, twice
a day in each nostril, maybe a nettie pot. I
don't if you've used one of those before. You kind
of pour fluid and one side of your nose, it
goes through and comes out the other. And the idea
that as you want to really flush out all the fluid,
you could also perhaps go to a steam room to
help get steam therapy to help loosen up some of
the mucus and the congestion in your inner ear and
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your sinus passages. Whatever you can do to clear out
gung schmutz fluid in your inner ear, cavity and pathways
will help you a lot. And I have you noticed that,
you know, regardless of covid or not, when it comes
to vertical like some of the people that we're writing
in we're saying, like I've been struggling with this for years,
Like how come some people, you know, you can do
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those things and it'll go away, and some it sticks
with you. Yeah, it's really a matter of again, your
body's lingering inflammatory effects, so some people tend to just
be in a pro inflammatory state. Things that enhance inflammation
in your body, stress, toxins, lack of sleep, caffeine, these
things all lead to a pro inflammatory state. So for anyone,
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you know, whether you have verigo or not, and you're
concerned about your your your your risk of COVID, I
would say, do things to lower inflammation. So meditate, get
good sleep, reduced toxins, eat a diet that's low in
inflammatory foods, like things like spicy foods, alcohol, toxins like
that will cause inflam inflammation in your body. Um so
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for you, for sure, because of the symptoms that you're having,
but even for anyone whether or they have COVID, those
are all really important factors to help diminish any possible
effects of COVID. And do you think there's like a
certain way that you should be getting up so that
you don't aren't prom you know, I I felt dizzy
in my life before. But I've always been able to
catch myself. So the fact that I wasn't, I didn't
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even have that like ability is what scared me and
now why I'm in my own head about it. Right.
I think for most people, your body's compensatory effect when
you stand up is to recalibrate. And your body can
recalibrate normally just fine in your case, because you've essentially
shifted the very very tight alignment of bones and fluid
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and the inner ear. That's why you're, you know, exhibiting
these effects. Uh. So for for you, for sure, you know,
decongest as much as possible, you know, using those methods
that we talked about, uh and then try other methods
to help produce inflammation in your body relating to your diet,
your sleep, to your stress, and other factors that really
affect that. So you think stress can add to Certainly,
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stress increases cortisol. Cortisol directly increases inflammation in your body.
You know, we take it for granted, but that's a
very common reason people's immune systems are diminished. Um, they're
more prone to infection, the more prone to adverse reactions
from getting infection. That's a really big, you know, prognostic indicator.
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It's really good to know. And then now that there
is the delta variant, have you noticed a difference and
the lasting effects from COVID nineteen versus the delta variant,
or how do you know which one you've gotten, or
any of those types of things. You know, in the community,
there really isn't a lot of testing around delta. It's
we just assume people get delta when they're when they've
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been vaccinated, just because the vaccines so uh susceptible to
the delta variant. Um that being said, I certainly am
seeing diminished symptoms and those who are vaccinated versus those
who are unvaccinated. In terms of the length of a sickness,
it's relatively mild so far. What I've seen in most
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people who are vaccinated, you know, two to three days
of symptoms, really feeling completely better within five days, versus
those that are unvaccinated, you know, symptoms ranging from a
week to fourteen days. And then would you say that
there's a different way that people should be protecting themselves
if they're unvaccinated versus vaccinated currently, because I mean, right now,
the delta variants out with a vengeance, right, I mean,
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you know, sadly, for those that are unvaccinated, it's really
going back to the things we were doing in December
and January, so really masks all the time, social distancing,
avoiding large groups. Uh, those are all the things that
that show still should be in place for people who
are unvaccinated. And then what about for vaccinated you know,
I think it's it's this is a you know, balance
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between living your life and living with the risk of COVID.
You know, given that for most people who have vaccinated,
the risk of severe consequences is extremely low. You know,
it's really a personal voice. Getting COVID for someone who's
vaccinated is most likely not going to be worth any
worse than getting the flu. So whether is so assuming
you don't have underlying conditions and you're not at health
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risk otherwise, you know, I think you should take, you know,
reasonable efforts to avoid getting it. But I still think
people need to be able to live their lives and uh,
if they are vaccinated, they can do so in a
fairly normal fashion. And then do you think that currently
it's spreading faster in LA than anywhere else in the
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United States? I think l a is just such a
unique population where we have a lot of people who
are working in fact in factories and other places where
they have to go to work and cannot work remotely,
that whenever we see a spike, we see a spike
in those populations, and that trails down to the rest
of the rest of the population. In other cities where
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it's more remote workers and uh, you know, more farmland
and things like that, it doesn't seem to spike quite
as quickly in those places. However. I mean, we do
testing all over the country and we're seeing spikes in
New York and Florida, Washington and really all over the country.
And what would you say is what type of symptoms
should you be having when like you know, now you
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need to like go to the hospital or you need
to go to the doctor. Because you know, we have
a friend who also somebody that was unvaccinated who got COVID.
I don't know if it's a delta variant or this,
I'm not sure, but um who's hospitalized and like very
very ill and didn't go for a long time because
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you know, Grant and Barrett, I'm gonna get through it.
And then you know, really having a hard time breathing,
like it has the tubes everything, So like, how do
you how do you know when it's time. I'm sorry
to hear that that your friend is going through that.
I think to uh, you know, relatively easy things to
track at home would be your temperature and your oxygen saturation.
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So I think fevers you know, in the hundred and
one ange are relatively normal for COVID. Once it's getting
up to a hundred three hundred four, it's really hard
for your body to maintain its homeostasis and it's hydration
status at that level. So that's that's the time you
should really think about going to the hospital. In terms
of auction level, you know, your body's normal auction levels
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around if it's if you're struggling a little bit, it
could be down to you may not feel it, but
if it's lower than three range, that's when you should
consider going to the hospital. And then just final question
to leave it on like a more of a positive note,
what are some things that we could be doing to
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like boost our immune system right now that you know,
either supplements or you know, like I know that just
me being in sunshine and you know, having freasure, I'm
going on a walk and meditating help. But what what
else could we be doing? Yeah, and I'm sure we've
all heard these over the last year, but I'll reiterate.
You know, first of all, sleep is super important. I
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try to get eight hour to sleep at night, and
I know for not everyone everyone that's not possible, but
really trying to get to that is really critical. Your
body repairs itself when you sleep. It's really important for
your immune system. In terms of your diet, you know,
people do tend to eat a lot of toxins in
their diet, and a lot of people don't even know
necessarily that they're bringing food into their body which is
causing inflammation. So you know, if you want to get
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a food sensitivity test and find out if you have
small sensitivities to shellfish or nuts or other toxins, and
that's really helpful. Cutting down an alcohol and other toxins
can be helpful too for people. I know a lot
of people resorted to drinking during helse to do, but
you know, hopefully now they can get outside and and
go exercise. What you mentioned is another really important way
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of maintaining your immune system, maintaining your health, and and
really trying to stay in your tip top health. Uh
you know, mindfulness and meditation whatever that means for you.
For me, when I go running, I zone out and
it really is helpful for me. Other people do yoga,
other people meditate. So those are some really important things
you can do to maintain health. Well, I love this.
Thank you so much for sharing with us. And where
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do people if they want to come to your concert, Like,
where do they find you? So even better, we will
come to you. We do house calls all over Los
Angeles um At Concierge m d l A. That's the
name of the clinic. We do ID therapy, COVID testing,
other in home services all over the country through drip hydration.
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So we we really try to bring the services that
you would get at the urgent care directly to your house. Well,
now you're in trouble because now I've got your info.
So thank you so much for taking the time, my pleasure,
Take care. Bye. So we're gonna take a little break
here and then we're going to open up the phone
lines and see if we have time for a caller too.
(24:53):
Hi Gina, Yeah, Hi, thanks for calling in. How's it going?
It's on? Wow? Thank you. How are you doing. I'm
hanging in, hanging in, happy to be here. I don't
really know any backstory on you. I just know that
you're calling in something in regards to COVID, and I
would love to hear your story, if you don't mind
sharing it with our listeners. Yeah, no, of course. I
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I got COVID last February. Um, if you, And actually
it was my uh somebody, I think it was. My
husband was asymptomatic, and so I got it, and luckily
my I have two boys, and luckily they didn't get it.
And I saw my mom the day that I was
feeling all these I just felt really crummy and felt
(25:37):
really like my body ached everywhere and horrible abdominal pain.
But I went to go see my mom and thank
god I wore a mask because I was with her
inside for a while and um, and then I went
home and got super sick that night, just with like
full body aches, like just chills. Um. And then I
lasted for like three weeks where I was literally in
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bed and um, couldn't you know, could barely sleep. It
felt like my muscles would being torn apart and um.
And then I had residual for two and a half.
I had residual for two and a half months, um
and uh. And then I had my first VISOR shot
when I was able to get it, and I still
had horrible pains. And then after my second visor shot,
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everything went away, all my pains, everything went away. So
it's like saved me. But well, that is a huge
that that's an excellent story to share for anybody out
there who you know has already had COVID and they're like, oh,
I don't need to get vaccinated for it. Just recently,
just a week ago, my brother came back from l
A with his family and to his son and his
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wife got the Delta variant and they both been vaccinated.
She got the Johnson and Johnson vaccination and she is
horribly ill still. And the son had VISOR and he
has he's positive, but he doesn't have any symptoms. But
he went around and saw my mom too, and thank
god he wore a mask because he would have killed her.
(27:05):
So we're just you know, mask, mask work, back work,
and you can still get it even if you have
been vaccinated. I know I feel the same way. I mean,
right now, you know our kids are in you know,
outdoor sports camp type things, and you know, some some
of the moms have been like, oh, I don't want
our kids to have to wear a mask, and I'm like, truthfully,
my kids they're at the point they don't even say anything,
they don't even notice. It doesn't bother them, Like, and
(27:29):
I just think it's so important for us all to
remember that, like, the you know, the more we do
to protect the people in our lives, the better that
everybody's gonna in our community and other kids, because especially
like something happens and then like the whole pod will
shut down or then the championships. Yeah, I mean my son,
(27:49):
I've once on that eleven, so he can't get a
shot yet, and so people, you know, then you just
have to worry about him around people because you know,
people who aren't vaccinated aren't wearing masks, so you gotta
it's gotta mask work. I mean, I literally almost killed
my mom and my brother almost killed my mom, so
and we were wearing masks around her, thank god, And
she never got anything, no, thank god. And she's eighty
(28:11):
two when she's got long issues and so I was,
I mean, it was like it would have been horrible.
So well, Gina, I can't thank you enough for sharing,
and this is just a really good reminder to all
of us, you know, wear a mask especially, or get vaccinated,
and so we can be done with this. Yeah, let's
move on. Let's let's get back to you know, different
(28:34):
types of conversations, having fun, being healthy, and you know,
I appreciate you coming on to share with us today.
And yes, well, thank you, thank you, and bless you
for wearing that mask and taking care of your mom. Yes,
thank you, thank you, stay safe. Thanks all right, bye bye.
(28:54):
So thanks you guys for joining this week's Teddy Teapot.
I know parts of it were a little heavy, but
I just I wanted to share with you guys, and
I wanted to share everything you know through my actual
voice because I think it can you know, things can
be lost in translation via via things written out. So
(29:15):
you know, I appreciate you, guys, I appreciate the support.
I hope that some of the things that you heard
today will help you guys and will help resonate. Um,
you know, if somebody else in your life is struggling
with any of these things. And uh, maybe next week
or maybe I'm sorry, maybe uh next t pot will
(29:36):
do something a little while there's something a little more fun.
Keep it on the lighter note. I know I need it,
I know you guys need it. But thanks for tuning in. Uh,
please make sure to go and give us a little rating.
Let's do a little five star action. Leave a comment. Um.
You can also email in at Teddy T. Pot at
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(29:58):
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