The Eds: unEDited with Frank Catania

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave.
Welcome back to the EDS podcast. I'm Eddie Judge and
I have my co host, Welcome back Brother, that's good
to be bad. And today we have a special guest.
Everybody who doesn't know Frank Ktanya. He's a very special guy.

(00:20):
Met him a couple of times and we hit it
off right from the start. I think I am like
a mirror image of him, not physically because he's so
much bigger than me, but we have a lot in common.
So I'm really excited to get to talk to Frank,
and I'm really excited for you guys to get to
know him. Frank Katanya is the ex husband of Dolores Katanya.

(00:41):
She's from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. They're sure
two kids together, Frank Junior and Gabby. And what makes
Frank different from other ex husbands is the amazing relationship
he has with Dolores and her now partner Paulie. And
I know you guys know that we had Paulie on
the podcast recently and you got to hear his side.

(01:01):
It was so awesome, So I can't wait to hear
of Frank's side. Plus, he's part of the Jersey Friendships
on the show, and you know how those guys just
get along great and put on a show. And I
believe Frank is part of a of a show with
Joe Gorga, so I can't wait to hear your part
of that as well. So welcome Frank Patania.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's my pleasure, it's my honor to be on the edge.
So thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, we're grateful to have you. And first of all,
congratulations on getting married.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Brittany, I heard that was a big, big surprise, big secret.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Honestly, we tried to keep it a secret from everybody
because our wedding we did have a destination wedding and
the hurricane destroyed that. We rescheduled and they weren't ready.
So finally Brittany just said, you know, enough's enough.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know, that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
So we ended up getting married and we might as
well just jump into it. And Brittany and I got married,
and we were married all right, by our dame minister,
who happens to be Dolores's ex boyfriend, David.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
This is sexual.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Let's back up a little bit. I want to get
to know you Frank, where did you grow up? You
know and know you're Italian?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right, Italian.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I'm a Jersey boy through and through and through, although
we may be making the exit from Jersey partly, you know,
part of the year. Okay, one more we call over
here a snowbird. But I go ahead. Initially grew up
in Patterson, and I had a young at a young age,
I left the city winter, the suburb, and I've been

(02:42):
in the suburbs of Jersey, uh, the Jersey Shore as well.
You name it everything Jersey and then Guido persona and stereotype.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I fit it all.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So is Patterson that Guido type? Or how different is
Patterson's from Jersey Shore from suburbs.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Patterson Patterson itself right now, which Dolores knows like the
back of her hand. It is a city, all right,
definitely different than the suburbs. You know, I don't know
so much if you've got the Guido's maybe at one
time coming out of Patterson, but now the Guidos have
more more into the suburbs.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, So what's Patterson about now? Because I know there
was a subject about Patterson. I just wanted to get
to know what Patterson is all about.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Patterson is an urban area. Okay, it's an urban area.
Back in the day, it was when I tell you
it was the silk the factory capital of the world.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Right, that's where something.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I mean, you still see some of the silk factories
as well as the garment factories there and some of
the houses that were built in Patterson. We we do
a lot of real estate, so we we get them
now many many years later. They have wouldwork inside these places, guys,
which you never when you hear about Patterson, you would
never expect inside these they will never be duplicated. They

(04:05):
would never be duplicated. The architecture inside some of the
buildings there. It's a great city. It's a great city.
It truly is. But it's a city. It is a city.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So does it resemble Italian architecture and you know, really
unique things or are we talking about shitholes?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Honestly, it's not so much a shithole. But I gotta
be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's Italians. Italians came here of this. I mean, it
is what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
We're at the bottom of a total pole. Okay, Patterson
was already here. The garment districts were already here. The
silk factories were already here, so that they were all
basically by non Italians. We came in and we worked there,
all right, we worked there. You initially, we started at
the bottom of the total pole. So Patterson itself didn't
have Italians one hundred percent. There are certain areas of

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Patterson where it was all Italian. Since that time, it
has since changed, all right, it's not so much, which
you know, Italian now anymore. The Italians moved out into
the suburbs. But yes, there it was. When I tell
you that there was definitely an Italian heritage in Patterson. Everybody,
everybody you talked to in this area of New Jersey,

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either they or their family came from Patterson.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Did you meet the Laurus in Patterson?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I met the laurd Now, I didn't meet the Lauris
in Patterson, although you know, we had a huge nexus
in Patterson. I went to a retirement dinner for a judge.
When I was there, Delores and her mom were waitresses
all right at this banquet center, and I just said
to myself, holy shit, she's fucking gorgeous, all right, in

(05:41):
a big pussy that I am. Guys, I didn't approach her, right,
I had one of my associate lawyers at that time.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I said, go talk to her for me, go talk
to him anyway.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know, I got her phone number and ever since
then that was it hit it off.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So you just hit on something really unique that I
wanted to ask about, and that's law. Were you a lawyer,
a law clerk, or aolved in law?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I was a lawyer. I was a lawyer for yeah,
for twenty three years. I was a lawyer.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
In fact, yeah, I was the head prosecutor for the
city of Hackensack.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I was a prosecutor another township I was. I was
well respected. You know.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I did a lot of criminal law. I did a
lot of divorced law. I specialized in real estate law,
all right, not only closing but also real estate litigation.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I always wondered as a prosecutor, are you like fearing
for your life at times? Are you always looking over
your shoulder or is it no big deal?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah? You normally?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Possibly, yes, you would have to look at guys. I
was always fair and honestly. I did one good thing
about the Housewives, which I just throw out through real quick.
I love the fact that everybody comes up and says,
oh my god, you're such a good guy in the show.
That's all right, that's truly me, and that passed on
to me being a prosecutor as well. If you come
to if you come to Jersey, you go down to
the Jersey Shore, you got the boardwalk and you're walking

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down and people always recognize you and notice it. And
when they come up, it's funny because you don't know
how to act first, because I don't know whether they
know me from I want to come up. I went
to school with them. I don't know if they knew
me from a prosecutor, or they know or they knew
me from the show. Well one, I'm more than a cat,

(07:31):
more than a cat. But the one good thing is
and guys, it's probably a dozen times I've had people
come up to me and you realize that that you
know them as you prosecuted them, and they would say
to me, you know, thank you so much. I said,
if it wasn't for you, listen, I had an addiction.
You didn't put me, you didn't put me in jail.
You believed in me, and look, this is my family.

(07:53):
They'd introduced me to their kids. Then and I was
more than fair. I was more than fair, because guys, listen,
there's many times unfortunately I was on the opposite the
other end of the law. It's out there, you know,
when you get into housewives. I don't have to tell you, guys, it's.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everything's open book, everything comes out.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I was.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I was arrested when I was at law school, all right.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So as much as I got lawyer, as much as
I got it expunged, I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, it's still out there.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
What were you What were you arrested for? I don't
know one.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh yeah, no, I was arrested for. I was arrested
for drugs. I was arrested for drugs, and you name it.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I was admitted to practice law in New Jersey while
on probation on a criminal matter, which.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I was the first one out there, all right. Not
only did I had a a.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Period of probation with a probation officer, but I also
had an appointed attorney who was my legal probation officer.
Uh in the attorney aspect, right. So so yes, guys,
there's not.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
One side of me, there's no many sides.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Any side, well, I guess the good news with that
is you get to think like both sides, right, You're
knowing you're a prosecutor.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
And that's why I was more than fair, because if
I didn't get it, if I didn't get that chance,
I would never be where.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was today. I would never be where I was today.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
And I always tried to, you know, I always tried
to give everyone a second chance. I've seen, unfortunately, I've
seen the firsthand. I don't care what part of the
spectrum you are on when it comes to wealth, because
there's certain areas of Bergen County which have some of
the richest townships in the country, which would show up.

(09:38):
I was in Hackensack, which is basically the hub of
Bergen County, so you would see people coming there who
are just mega rich. And over a period of six
months that I'm handling this case, you'll you'll see the parents,
the parents age aged fifteen years having a child that
they could to hireman. All right, but they go through

(09:58):
and you know, I'm happy. I'm happy, Listen. I am
absolutely no regrets. There's many things I got regrets about,
but not anything to do with me being a prosecutor.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
At that moment the catalyst to change your life around,
Like just hitting, was that like a rock bottom moment
for you that just kind of made you flip the
switch and say, I want to do some different.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Unfortunately, I've had a lot of those rock bottom because
I guys, on a daily basis, I go to the
top of the mountain. At the end of the day,
I may be that's my life, guys, all right, that's
my life. So yes, it was to a point where
you want somebody gave me a second chance, all right?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And what am I to do? Put you in jail?
All right?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Because what we did do sometimes is you know, I
would give someone a jail sentence or recommend the jail
sentence if there was no other way to get them
to stop. Because listen, if you're incarcerated, all right, if
we incarcerate you for less than a less than a year,
you stay in county jail, all right. And if you're
in a county jail, I'm gonna be honest, it's almost
nearly impossible for you to get drugs in there, so

(11:04):
it's almost like a forced detox, all right. And other
than that, no, man, I'm not gonna you know, I'm
not gonna put you in I'm not going to course,
I'm not gonna put you in jail for.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Something that that speaks volumes of you because I you know,
my experience in the law, it's it's changed me a
little bit where I would say the majority of the
lawyers that have ever come across are just pieces of ships.
They may one hundred are actually like respectable and really

(11:34):
care for you know, a good outcome or I should
say a fair outcome, right, So that speaks volume to you, Frank,
and I have a lot of respect for that. You know,
you are a good guy.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Man. I trying to think so and guys, I put
it out there so many different times. I always consider
myself to be somewhat of a good guy. But I
went further in two thousand and seven my mother passed away,
and guys, that changed everything.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That changed everything.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
You realize, you realize you want to know something really
that's that's important. Important things that I things I used
to get mad at that things I used to set
I'm embarrassed now, you know to say you know, I
say it all the time. I have a screensaverer on
my computer at work. It's a big screen and as
this little kid, he's got to be maybe seven years old.
He's crossing a finish line, all right. You can see
he's running a race. He's crossing a finish line. He's

(12:24):
got his hands up in the air. He's got a
huge smile on his face. All right, but we don't
see is he scanned down. He's got two prosthetic legs.
You want to know something, bro, If he can smile
and he could love life, the way is who the
fuck am I to complained about the things that I
can play?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
All right? And I mean, you know, I was embarrassed.
I was embarrassed to myself.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
My god, I can't believe you're getting met So yes,
truly that that was a changing moment in my life.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
And Dolores, Dolorous and her family were also a changing
moment in my life. And now my present wife is
just a sweetheart. She is happy all the time.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
You know, it never gives me grief. There's no drama.
Always the glasses half full, ber right.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So I think the key to that is surrounding yourself
with those kinds of people, you know, the people that
see the glass have full instead of half empty, and
everything's positive and we all get kicked down and you know,
shit happens and we got to just get back up
and do life. And it's how you do it that determines,

(13:28):
you know, the true outcome. You can have a good
positive attitude push through the you know, adversaries, or you
can sit back and drink and smoke and do drugs
and mess your life up and say, oh it's it's
you know, I deserve better than this, but you can't
get yourself out of that hell hole. So it's it's definitely,
it definitely helps to be surrounded by good, good, positive

(13:52):
people and it sounds like that's your circle.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I had Polly on our podcast recently and held me
the dynamics of your relationship and I was blown away.
Wait wait, you guys go to dinner together with the
ex'es and yeah, and even he.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Wasn't initially, it wasn't initially like that. All he came
in and I said, man, do me a favor. I said,
just just see it, you know. And and the thing
is he had he had an issue because one of them.
It was it was new to him.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
It was new and that he wasn't used to that.
And I said, and I used to talk to Dolores
because I know Polly had an issue with it. I said, Doloris,
let him just see us together. And when you see
us together, the last thing you got to worry about
is that, you know, honestly, of anything there between me
and Dolores.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
All right, how would you describe that relationship then my
brother's sister.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yes, honestly, this Dolores is an incredible person, and an
incredible person, guys, I'm lucky to have met her and
her family.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I'm honestly at her family.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
They they showed me a whole nother caring side and
everything else, and and and delorious Delrius is a realist,
all right, Laurias said to me, listen, do me a favor.
It came into the relations every man cheats, all right,
every man cheats, all right, do me a favorite.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Don't beat me, all right? Come home at night, and
don't make a fool out of me.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know why I couldn't come home at night.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I try one thing, to do one thing, but you know, and.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Again, even to the point where to show you what
a woman Dolorous was I end up cheating, guys, I
ended up cheating one of my divorce clients, no less,
all right, all right, So after about four months and
I was running around.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
The Laurius came up to me and it's the kind
of woman is, Frank, do me a favorite? Honestly?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Come home now, come home now. I will never mention
this woman again. All right, let's move forward. And guys, yeah,
I couldn't do it because I did love her so much.
And I said, Dolorous, I hope you understand what I'm
gonna say. I can't say that I wouldn't do it
again right now. I don't trust myself, and I can't
see putting you through the hurt that I saw her

(16:06):
go through, all right, when I say she was my partner,
all right, so as Dolorus will say, Dolorus divorced me
in order to keep our family together, right, And and
that's exactly it, man, bro. There's no separate vacations, there's
no separate birthdays for the kids, there's no separate kid Christmas.
She saw me go through that with my parents, all right,

(16:27):
and she said that's not going to happen to us,
right quite honestly, I get anoledge you. I don't think
my kids until they were like eighteen years old, you
realize that we were divorced. I think they just think
we lived separate and had separate relationships with different people.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
All right, How old were the kids when that happened?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It starts the kids were young, all right, when a
ship hit the fan. My son was just my son
is just that's Eddie and Eddie. Let me tell you
somethingbout my timing could have been a.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Worse Yeah, I could have been, all right, could have been.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
And how long were you guys married at that point?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I think yeah, we were probably married is seventy seven?
Eight years all right before we ended up getting divorced.
But she did.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
She put her feelings of personal feelings aside in order
that our kids would not suffer in any way whatsoever. Okay,
when I tell you, oh, you know the joint trips,
you name it, all right. Our divorce was nasty. Our
divorce is nasty. What you see now is what the
culmination of a very nasty divorce?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
All right?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, can you elaborate a little bit more about that?
Because I would imagine with having such a great ability
to communicate and put the bad feelings aside that the
divorce would have been smooth. So what made it nasty?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Exactly what you mentioned before? Attorneys.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Attorney, right, my attorney, because listen, first of all, you
never represent yourself, right yeah, any attorney that represents itself
as a.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Fool for a client, all right, too smart?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh listen, hi, guys. I felt guilty, all right.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
And at the time that we were getting divorced, we
were doing very very well, all right, So I said,
do Loris, I apologize here, let me get and I
made an offer to her, and it was more. And
I did divorce, so I know it was much more
that the court would give her, all right, Me and
Doris and then her attorney at the time, he kept
saying no, no, no, and I'm like, Delors, please don't,
let's not go to court. We ended up going to court.

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And while we're in court and basically judge made a
ruling that Delors was entitled to it.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Was a little bit more than half what I offered her. Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
We walked out of the courtroom. Dolors looked to me
and she goes this, and I'm not going to fight you.
I'm not going to fight you.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And ever since then, Dolors and I have never looked
at our property sell grieving.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
When it came to money, if.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I had it, she had it, all right. She knew
the business that I was in. She knew that that
that we had peace and valleys throughout the year. So
there are certain times where she got much more. There
were certain times that we're slow. I said, the work
with me, all right, And Dolores is a beast in
a good way, all right. When things got rough, Delorius
went back to school to become a surgical tech.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
All right.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
She bartended at night. And then when things are good,
I mean the listen she did. She reaped the benefits,
all right. She reaped the benefits. And one of the
thing which I do say is, you know is I
tried as hard as I could to make sure that
my children and Dolores, all right, didn't suffer whatsoever. I
was a single guy at the time. I was living
on my own, all right, listen, and I lived comfortably.

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But if someone had to take a hit.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I would it would be me, all right.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
And so yeah, we went through and it finally got
to a point where Delorus do me favor, just gave
me a shorthouse. We just ended up building a new shorehouse,
all right. And Dolores said, okay, came down, packed her
bag down here, so and she wasn't upset. And next
thing you know, she went from the third floor where

(19:50):
the bedroom is, down to the second floor and unpacked
her suitcase on the second floor. And I said, what
are you doing? Guys like guys when she said to me,
she says, I said you can have the house. I
didn't say I wasn't going to use it. She basically
took another bedroom in the house. And guys still to
this day, de Laurius comes down. It's it's the one

(20:11):
place where the kids get older and they have their
own lives. It's the only place that everyone gets together,
all right. And that's the and that that that signifies
the type of relationship Dolorus and I.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Have, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
But and so Paulie came along, and Paulie wasn't used
to it. And you asked, You asked, daddy, you know
what kind of relationship. It got to the point where,
almost like exactly that De Laius. I love Delorius probably
as much as I love anyone else in my life.
My children. Brittany you name it, all right, She's that
important to me because of what she allowed to keep
our family together, all right, where she sactified personally in

(20:48):
order to keep our family together. I can never thank
her for, all right.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
So we've always been good. But again to the point,
it's it's it's.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
More like she's my younger, my younger sister, right where
I protect her, I will, I will. She calls me
at three o'clock in the morning, she needs me, I
will go. And I can tell you right now, Brittany
wouldn't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Brittany. Brittany saw Mina Dolores's relationship like eight years before
you know we got serious.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
You were friends, right, yes, yes, exactly. There's a lot
of history there.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
So she saw, she saw the relationship with Dolores and I,
so she knew that there was nothing to worry about.
So that's when when Polly came around initially, all right,
And one thing about Paulie, I can tell you something
place in Paulie and I are in the same certain ways,
but we're different. You don't have to guess where you
staying with Polly, right, paul Polis is straightforward as they come.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Man, he's got an issue. He'll tell you, all right,
he'll tell you. That's one good thing about him.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, absolutely, So I kept saying, just let Holy be
around us when we're all together, so little, but little
by little, all right, he did. And now, honestly, guys,
the relationship amongst all of us is great.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It was surprising to hear his side, and he said
exactly the same thing. He was a little apprehensive at first,
but the minute he got comfortable. I mean, he loves
the entire family, including you, including your family, her family, everybody.
It's just incredible family.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
He's got incredible boys. He's got great, two great sons.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
All right.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Good, So I said to them all the time. You
know the fact, if they didn't, they weren't so irish.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
All right, Yeah, I said to Paulie, I didn't check
the DNA because I don't believe they're yours.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Way too nice.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
So I have an interesting question for you. So obviously
you met Dolores. You, you were obviously very attracted to her.
You like, who is this I need to talk to
the scroaches, the most gorgeous gro I've ever seen, probably
at the time, right, at what point did you go
more towards friend zone, like did you were you still
married or was it after that you started seeing her
as a friend or was it during the marriage that
you guys sort of became friends and then that's what

(23:02):
ultimately led you to, you know, start doing your thing.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Delorius.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
I always to this day I think Delorius is a
beautiful woman, attractive, you name it all, right.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
A right.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
It was the point in time where I think where
said I can't come home, I can't pretty metre of fact,
I can't hurt you yet, I can't hurt you again,
and and and then and then and then it then
it changed right then it then it changed so and again.
You know, it's just I still absolutely care for her,
love her like the way I did when we're married

(23:38):
and everything.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's just a different love guys.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally understand that. Yeah, very selfless
of you.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, most would just keep on doing it if they
get the chance to just continue to do that, just
keep on doing it. It was very selfless of you
to actually walk away at that point, because that's you know,
when you can get the best of all.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
The worlds it, you know, the Lawyusser, the Wrus doesn't cry, right,
the lorus doesn't cry.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh no, man, you have no idea.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
I think I think, I think I know like maybe
three instances that the ruses ever crist all right, and
and I knew how upset you know, our relationship, and
and and and me being unfaithful hurt her. Guys, I
just couldn't. I couldn't do it again. I couldn't do
it again, all right, me, honestly, I'm different. You know,
I watched Extreme Makeover on TV. I start crying, right,

(24:28):
I'm a pussy, Guys, I'm gonna emotional. And as you
get older, you get.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
More and more. Oh, by the way, Frank, I wanted
to before I forget to mention this nice teeth like them,
we got the same teeth.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I love those guys. They did such a great job.
You guys went to the same people Texas.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, they're awesome. Let me tell you, I have nothing
but great things to say about that.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I really enjoyed being with, you know, just meeting them,
getting to know them, and how they take care of us.
And you know, they did tell me they took really
good care of you too.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well. Listen that Eddie and Eddie both of you is
all right. Listen, Like I said, I'm an open book.
I don't know if they told you this down smile Texas.
All right now I told you before I'm gonna win,
all right, So you got to put me under, all right?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh you went under?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Oh I went under. I went up. Oh dude, yeah yeah,
I'm a pussy bro.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
So next day, so next thing, you know, now, Britt, Britt,
we went together, right, we went one time, and we
knew we had to come back in two weeks. So
the first time we come down, they do the grinding
and everything else. They make the molds. You know, Britt
stays awake all right, she can handle pain. It's amazing me.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
And I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
They put me under. All right, we wake up. Brittany's
already up standing next to me. I get up, all right,
wake it up. This and that.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Lady says to me, I'm sorry, I spilled you know,
water all over you. Brittany said, no, no, no, tell
the truth.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
All right. I pissed myself okay while I'm under. So
now we got to come back in two weeks.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
So the lady says to me, you know, you do
you get like those male diapers, you know, you don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So next time we fly back down to Houston, we're
driving there. We stopped at either wal Grade or CVS.
So I look at brit I said, Brittin, I'm not
going in, all right. She goes, I'm not going in.
I said, no, you need to go in at least
at least if you get them, all.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right, like you're buying tampons, bro at least if you buy.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Them, they know they're not for you, all right. So
she goes inside. She comes back in the car. She
tossed them at me.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
All right, she was really I thought it was gonna
be at least twenty five years before I had to
do this for you, all right. Anyway, I got him,
and this time I was under and I didn't even
pissed myself. It was a waste, right, better be sorry exactly.
So yeah, that's why. But they were still they were

(26:54):
They felt so bad for me. They won't to even
tell me the truth. Yeah right, got a smile.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Texts amazing. Yeah, I always recommend them. They just the
way they take care of you, the hospitality and everything
about Texas. I really enjoy it. But people were super,
super good to us.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So, yeah, for sure, for sure, I didn't know that Eddie,
I didn't know he learned something along the way.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
So we talked about a little bit about you growing up.
Do you have siblings? I do?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I do I have a sister.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
She's shoking at me, all right, she's a doctor, all right.
At my initially growing up, because I get into my
children as well. I wanted to be a vetinaryan, all right.
I wanted to be a vetnaariry and I always worked
for vetinary in high school. My dad pulled every string
he could and got me into Cornell, all right. At
that time was the number one veterinary school.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah right, now.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
My father, my father was a lawyer, all right, well respected,
and I got there the guys, when I tell you,
I fit in like a whore in church, okay, all right,
that's put it lightly right.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So I'm dad, I'm leaving. I gotta get out of here. No,
you got to state here in this way. I said,
I don't. I don't want to even be a veniry, naymore,
I don't want to be a lawyer. Oh my god,
don't be a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. That's not what
he used to be.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I ended up believe I ended up leaving, all right.
I went to the University of Delaware. My dad didn't
even talk to me. I didn't even see him for
like six months, all right. So anyway, is that Dad's
why I went there, ended up becoming a lawyer that way.
But my daughter basically finished what I couldn't do, and
he became a veterinarian.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
That's very cool.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's a great story. What does your son do?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
My son? One thing? I have both my children, all right,
which to both work on pollocks.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
My son, my son works up Park Avenue, New York,
all right, for a huge a huge investment in fact,
I think believe it's the second largest in the country.
It's it's a large investment firm of which he's there.
He's part of a very elite group there, and he's
he's doing great. Both and then knockout one guys. Both

(29:06):
my children, you know, both my children are doing fabulous.
So it goes to show you that divorce children do
not need to be offended by divorce.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I think, what do you think instilled that work ethic
in them to succeed on their own? Obviously you were,
you were already successful and you know a lot of
people that's one of the hard things. When you're successful
and you're bringing up your kids. A lot of times
they feel like they don't have to work for it
because they sort of get everything right. What do you
think you did to instill that mindset for both of them,

(29:36):
because again, both of those careers aren't easy to get.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, exactly right. And there's three things with respect to that.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Number one, Dolores has always worked more than one job
since she was fourteen years old, but always worked, all right.
But education in her family was not a big thing,
all right. That was the decided to go to you know,
the college great if not, you know, not a big
deal all right. In my family, education was everything, all right.
So I think between on her side, all right, being

(30:04):
the work ethic, and on my side being the education
all right. And then also Dolorus and I at the
same point is my kids growing up pretty much did
not want for anything but for one second, all right,
if you act spoiled, if you ever act like when
we'll spoil children, we will take everything away from it.
We'll take everything away from you, all right. And Delorus

(30:24):
is more to displaying every than I am. All right,
not that I won't yell and scream like a normal Italian.
And five minutes I'm back to normal, all right. But
they're afraid of them, they're afraid of the laws. Delrius
is a badass. I'm not gonna lirie to you.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
She's tough. She's tough, all right.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
She after we met, she became a correction officer, all right,
in the jail into jail, transporting prisoners.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Eight months, eight months into.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Her pregnancy for our daughter, I get a call from
her chief Frankie got to get her out of here.
He goes, I can't be responsible, all right, she's an animal,
all right.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
But that was it. The Lauria stopped working at that point.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
We got some good story. Wait, we got some good stories.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Maybe one day, Bonzie, when when all maybe all four
of us will come on, the Laurus will tell you
some of the stories along the way. When when, oh yeah,
when I got caught cheating, Guys, everybody gets everybody gets accused, all.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Right, not me.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I want to hear her side.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Bro, you don't have to.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Say, because the Lorius, the Laurius can be more absolutely normal. Guys,
She'll kiss you hug you even if she suspects anything,
because she's building a case against you, right, And when
the Laurus confronted me, all right, back then, it was
the VHS tapes, right, she had she had me dead
to right here, debt to right there.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And you know, do it guys, listen, did she play
the video for you? No, not the video, she.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Played the videos because when she put the first video in,
and I, guys, I'm stunned, I'm like, funk, what do
I do now? I'm like that that's not me?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
She was, Are you really gonna try this?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
This is not you? I said, no, I mean it
looks like maybe that's not me. Sounds did you put
you in the next VHS? All right, that's not you again?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
All right? Well that whoever it isn't you was driving
your fucking car, all right, dude.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
So I remember she grew up in a family of
all cops, all right, so she knew she had me
dead to write. And I never suspected anything because I
would come home and she kissed me, hugged me while
she's investigating me.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Man, she should have been a lawyer. So did she
take those tapes to the court? You said it was
a messy divorce court. Did she show up with the tapes?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
She would have in a second. But the thing about
New Jersey, I'm like California, all right, where what's called
an equital distributions. It's a no full no full divorce,
all right. So if you're getting divorced, it's fifty to fifty. Yeah, okay,
you no matter who's right, who's wrong, you name it,
all right, thank god?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
All right? Or I would have to defend myself way
beyond that.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So I wanted to ask you another question that I
really really enjoyed. I mean, Paulie and I were laughing
her ass off. But he when he was talking about
you and how amazing you guys are together, he mentioned
that you came up with a nickname for him.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And oh, buzz light Year, that's the light Year.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Come on, bro, guys, guys, tell me the truth when
you're when you guys are having a podcast, when you're.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
At you're telling me. Once you mentioned it, he don't look.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like yes, it made a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
He's a good looking guy.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Man, he's a good looking guy. Listen, one thing, one thing,
paul He's got on me. All right, Well, you got
your teeth, I got teeth.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I do everything, all right, I got much first of all,
I got much more uch, bigger legs than he does too. Right,
But the one thing I can't, guys, I can be honest,
is that fucking hair his he's got hair. You got
a beautiful head of hair. Bround myself next week or something,
you know.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
But now that makes sense now because he actually came
back and said, he calls you potato, mister potato head,
and mister h has no hair.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
He's got no hair. Bro, You ever see you ever
see mister potato heads arms and legs?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I was like, bro, come on, man, I give you
something better than that. But can I tell you something.
I think that that almost opened up.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Opening his eyes a little bit, right when he realized
honestly busting his balls, he started busting back in the sea,
you know. And you know so as much as as
much as it was a little bit serious both ways,
all right, it was joking, and I think it opened
up some avenues for me and him.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, I think anytime you can laugh about anything, you know,
just make light of things, even some serious things. You
just have to be able to laugh about them, because
life doesn't that be that serious. It really doesn't.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Since you and Delores are obviously great, great friends, did
you get to give approval on who she dated or
do you give a ship for guys that she dated?
Like why are you dating that loser? Why are you
dating this guy? Or did you stay out of the way.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
It's a great question, Edwin.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Can I tell you something.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Listen, Delorius Delriss. She's very very strong will all right,
very strong will. All right.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
So she was dating this one guy at one time,
all right, and I know they had to a fight
and he said something or another which was not nice.
All right, all right, So I call him, I call
him up, all right, I.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Said, this is me, right, you treat her respect. I
swear to God, I will suck you up. All right,
all right, I sure it.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I got to call out of my relationship. That's all
you had to say. No more last time I got approval,
last time I was asked. I didn't even get involved anymore.
If you need me, I'm here, all right.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I thought I was.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I thought I was doing a good thing. And I
got screaming, yelled at by her. And there are two
people I don't like being screamed and yelled at by dolorous.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
And my daughter, all right, I bett, is your daughter
a lot like Dolores.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
My daughter is a lot like Dolorous And I right, okay,
she when it comes to humans, she is so non sympathetic.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay, okay, come doing animal animals, guys. Is our house.
Our house is a free dolorous old houses, a free
for all.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
But she's everything's about animals, and everything's about animals. But
at the same time, this my daughter, guys, you know
iticed I got a story for everything, all right. So
we just don't gyms, all right, We just dont big gems,
you know, the golden gyms, the powerhouse gyms. And we
had one real big gym, and in there we had
the mma training, right. So as soon as we opened
up and we had the hands of Gracie jiu jitsu

(37:06):
in there, now my daughter wants to get involved. So
she's there and next thing, you know, look, there's no
teenagers in the class. There's no females in the class,
all right. So she's sporn with grown ass men, all right,
disocated he elbow, dissipated her shoulder. You know, she don't
care my daughter is. She's tough, all right. So now

(37:27):
we start seeing her doing the jiu jitsu, all right,
I go and bring this guy in from Russia, all right,
to start down with the takedowns, all right.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Then we do it.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Then we do the way tie with the kicking. Now
we got a guy striking. So my daughter's a badass,
all right, he really is before, all right. So we're talking,
Me and Dolores are talking to her, and we say, listen, gab,
this is for more your protection. You don't ever go
out in sight a fight with somebody and use this,
all right. So as I'm explaining to her, Dolors is

(37:55):
there and say, you know, someone starts with your gab,
you you make sure that they know, all right, you
get them down you don't, and you'll tell them don't
screw with you again, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
And that's basically where I stopped. Right Then Dolores, you know,
jumps in and then you stomp on their head like
they're around fire. All right, right.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
I was like, that goes to show you the difference
of personality the Laurus and I all right, yeah, And
it also it also goes over into the Housewives of
New Jersey don't push the lris, all right, but the
ones who know.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Her know not to get her beyond that point because
the laws.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Listen, guys, the hardest I haven't been many many fights
in my life, and the hardest I've ever been punched
is by the worse.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, let's talk about the real Housewife experience since you
mentioned it. How was the experience going on the show? Like,
how did you guys find out? You guys were cast
or invited to be on the show.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
And when the New Jersey initially started, all right, Delorus
is part of that initial group, okay, right, And even
we weren't married, as I said, we were very close.
She came to me and asked me, and she basically
said our kids were too young.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Okay, all right? That she passed on it, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
But for the first I think it was seven seasons,
Dolores was almost a friend of or she'd appear as
because she was friends with everybody on there, all right,
whether it be Teresa, whether it be Dina, you name it,
all right. And my kids, my kids were on little
by little, so they came back to her, I think
it was season seven or season eight, and then they
asked her again and she said yes. All right, she
said yes because our kids were now older. All right, guys,

(39:36):
how I got involved? I have absolutely no idea. She's
my ex wife at the time. She had a boyfriend
at the time, all right. And when I first came on,
you know, because I was building a house for her. Guys,
I got hit pretty hard social media. Right, Thank god,
they listen. I told my kids everything beforehand. My kids
knew everything about me. They've always known it, all right.

(39:57):
So now comes out that I'm arrested. Now comes out
that I'm You're gonna get this bored?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
All right? You name it? Guys said everything everything.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, I was like, wow, this isn't for me. Man,
get my ass kicked you, all right. I made the
mistake and what you guys understand of responding to people.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
On social media. Okay, but you can never win.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
All right, you can never win. So then, you know what,
I just started acting myself. I just started acting myself.
And then it turned. It turned dramatically, where, oh what
a nice guy Frank is?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Wow, this and that? Why doesn't Polly like him? All right?
You name it. So for the most part after that,
it's been ninety five percent, all right, good. It's been
ninety five percent good. And guys, let me tell you,
you know, you do cameo cameo.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
I've done over five thousand cameos because I enjoy it,
all right, I enjoy it. Some people call me who
tell me, oh, my friend so who her mom passed? Guys,
And I'm true, I'm true. I'm doing a cameo for somebody.
I start crying. I start crying.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
They almost like, oh, man, so, and it's me. It's
really what you see is what you get. So for
the most part, I gotta be honest. There's nothing.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
I love with the consequences that have come from the
Real Housewives, all right, And we found out no matter
where you go anywhere in the world. You know, we
went down to the Bahamas down down there, and guys,
you could have walked fifty feet without being approached and
everything else. And Brittany's great that way because it's normally
very very respectful. Yeah, so, you know, I try to

(41:32):
keep it nice every morning still to this point. And
then britt has total access to my phone. I get DMS,
I get videos where like, guys, you know, you gotta
like turn the phone like like, what the hell is this.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
And then I realized, you know, is Brittany on the show.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Brittany's been on the show many of times, all right,
but Brittany, Brittany is just a good, happy person, all right,
and you know, just a nice person. So they've asked
her to come on more and more, all right. Well,
I basically limit her on the show coming to good
events where I know there's gonna be a free for
all breakdown, right because she's she's doesn't have a thin

(42:15):
skin anymore. And then one good thing about it, which
is a great storyline, is the ex wife protecting a
new wife.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, she sticks up for her, right, she sticks
up for her. But anybody on the show she got
break kids alone, basically everybody on the show, all right.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
And our experience, our experience on the show, and a
lot of it has to do with the guys on
our show. I think it takes a step further than
all of the other franchises.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
We we always even if our wives had problems or
ex wives or whatever, it normally would not allow that
to get in the way of us.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Okay, and that's a normal thing. That's what a normal
guy does experience. I have experience on our show, exactly
what you're getting at. My friendship with David and David
and I were probably one of the only ones that
got along on the show the many years that have
been on. Now you know, I've grown to like Terry.

(43:13):
He's he's actually a really cool, down earth stateforward guy.
And then Shane of course again straight shooters. It goes
back to being authentic and real, just being themselves. That's
that's all you need to avoid or kind of skate
through all the stupidity of the show where people say, Hey,
your hair's not long enough, your eyes aren't blue enough,

(43:35):
you're you know, your smile is not big enough. You're
never gonna make everybody happy. But the relationships you guys
have in Jersey, I've always talked about that, always said,
you guys, there's a dynamic there where you have a history.
You guys really know each other, and that's why you're
having so much fucking fun.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
You know, I enjoy I get the cool anytime I
have the guys night where if the guys are going
to be involved, they would say, you know, I get
to call from Dolores, Brittany will call me it. Do
not like Joe, do not like Joe and next thing,
you know, it's as carrying me out. Here's Joe's the
littlest one on the show. And Joe he could just
drink and drink and drink.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I don't know. Oh my god. I was Joe's lawyer.
I've known Joe probably close to thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I used to be his lawyer.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
And you know, now we have a comedy show together
the guys, which I never planned on whatsoever?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
You got to tell us about that? Because I know
you guys did a skid at the Bravo Khan two
years ago and you your shirts off.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
And here's how he says, well, let me remember Bravo
Bravo Khan when it was in New York. All right,
So Joe is he's a comedian, and I gotta be
honest with me. Bro he's kind of funny. He's kind
of funny.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
He is funny.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
So anyway, listen, I.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Know the guy choosing me, and I tell him. I
tell him all the time. So now he's appearing at Carolines.
He's got two shows at Carolines, which every comedian wants
to get to. I was like, how the hell did
he get the Caroline. I wake up and I wake
up in the morning and I'm I'm going through Instagram
laying in bed, and you know, every day you see
Joe Gorga's Instagram all right, where normally he's got a

(45:15):
shirt off, all right, and he gives you your your
life advice.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, you know the usual.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
You know, do keep you does that too once. I
need to learn. I need to take the shirt off
more often.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
That's what Joe's always got the shirt off.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That's what I'm missing. I needed. I need to take
off the shirt off all the time.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Bro. Listen, Joe Gorgan takes off the shirt so it
takes your attention off of his height, right, So now
I see his thing, Joe.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Gorga appearing at Carolines.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
All right, Bravo kan blah blah blah, all right, the
guy's true story, all right. Then I see featuring Frank
Contana that I called you, Joe, Hey man, what's going on?
I said, I said you yeah, oh yeah, you're gonna
come out. You're gonna introduce me beat You're like five
ten minutes introduce me? I said, Bro, you think you

(46:07):
should have asked me? Am I getting paid? Am I
doing anything, So, guys, I gotta be honest. That's probably
about that's probably about thirty shows ago. We've been to
three countries. I can't even tell you how many different cities.
So now my I come out before him and go
on from maybe like fifteen to twenty minutes, right, and
Joe comes out, And I never planned on it.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I gotta be honest.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
I never planned being a comedian. I was scarce shit
of it, all right, but that's how I started. We
just had one not too long ago, and they're not big.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Listen. We we had some in Atlantic City where we
had like twelve thirteen hundred people. Most of our venues
are anywhere from maybe one fifty to two fifty. But
it's nice. It's nice, usually sell out and it's a
housewife crowd.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Do you think he'll uh, you'll ever he'll ever open
for you?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah? Never bow yeah, Joe listen.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
And I let him do that because obviously, you know,
God God shorted him when I came to his height,
so I feel bad for him.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
All right. So we're saying at and you'll be honest.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
I want part of my part of my skin. I
come out there, I said, listen, guys, you think you
feel bad about your life. I said, let me just
tell you something, all right. I'm driving here tonight, all right,
And I used to dress up. I used that these
tailor made suits and I looked pretty good man. I
was jack backdad everything. I'm in front of a judge,
I was a pretty damn good attorney, and I was
Joe Gorga's attorney. All right, I said, since then, I

(47:29):
fucking got this bored, and now I'm the opening act
for Joe Gorgon.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
You think your life is bad?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
I said, mind, I have a question for you, Frank.
But I wanted before I forget, you mentioned Brittany has
access to your phone and access to your DM's access
to all that good stuff. Was that your idea or
her idea?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Can I tell you something?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
It was my idea because when we go out and
I'm always getting you know, the people coming up, And
that's the one good thing about the Housewives. My buddy,
my buddy who moved away, who's still one of my
best friends, came to Jersey walking down the boardwalk and
he said to me, one day, he goes bro first,
I hate the fact that people recognize you, all right,
because he grew up on me, all right, but he
goes after you take a picture with him, they walk

(48:13):
away and they're smiling.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
It's any unit you guys, deal.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
It's it's like a big thing for them to meet you,
all right, but it's just as big for me and
to see that you make them happy like that, all right.
So but then you get a little bit beyond where
you get women who had something to drink. If you
get a group of women, you know, and they get
very touchy feely in your name it all right? So
what happened is you know at that point, guys, I

(48:37):
wanted her to make sure she felt comfortable.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
So be honest.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Britt has access to everything through my phone, all right,
but she never goes guys, as far as I know,
probably when I'm sleeping, she goes through everything, all right.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
But yeah, she just walked in the house. She just
walked in from shopping. Was it?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Would you say? It's a form of uh what was it?
A form of accountability for you as well? And then
the show help with accountability?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Is well?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I know, like for me that was a huge like
it helped me a ton. When we came out on
the show, it was like oh shit, Like, now you
the most random person will know who you are and
is someone going to try to blackmail you for some stuff?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Right?

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Always if in fact I know something, if whoever they're
blackmailing you with already knows.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
About it, Yeah, well I got I got my wife
got a private DM on social media saying hey, I
saw Eddie at the beach having lunch with a friend.
And that's when the light went off. I'm like, oh shit,
there goes my privacy. I mean you not that I
have anything to hide, but I can't do anything now.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
No, It's crazy, isn't it. It's crazy, you know, and listen,
it's I don't care how cool you got cool partners,
and you know it's nice and I consider myself to
have one as well, you know. But at the same time,
when you got people just I don't understand why people
do it, all right, I guys, let me ask you
guys a question. If you look at an Instagram, remember

(49:59):
you look Instagram. If you see a post and you
don't like that post, all right, do you even nasty comment?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I just keep scrolling.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
He just sort of on, Yeah, why why do people.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Find it necessary? And then usually it's somebody who's got
no pictures has like four followers, okay, exactly, which I can't.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, I hate the keyboard Warriors. I hate the keyboard Warriors.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, I think it also at this stage in this
world of social media and reality TV, I think there's
a kind of a conspiracy going on out there with
certain cast members that are putting stupid shit stories out there.
And that's what those take accounts are for, right, Combine
that with the bots, and then they just hire a

(50:45):
bot to keep repeating you know, stupid posts. It's just dumb.
But I mean I know that that's part of the
or maybe the biggest reason Jersey was shut down because
of what happened with you know, the bloggers and the
stupidity of what happened over there. But on that note,
let me ask you if if Jersey was to be
asked back and Brittany was asked to be a housewife,

(51:08):
would you sign on for that or what would you do?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Get? Truthfully, guys, I think that is entirely her choice.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
That's a great answer, babe, They ask you, what would
you say, She's like, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah,
Like she just said, she goes I think I'm too nice,
all right, which I got to be honest with.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
You, so do I right. And our relationship, guys, our
relationship is close to perfect as it comes. It really does.
We don't ever fight. We have a big age discrepancy,
which nobody's ever made an issue of.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
I laugh more heart than I've ever laughed with any
of the corner ever in my life. They have more
in common, all right, and in less drama than anything.
And worried she's worried morey about it if we go
on the show, because there's been great relationships. Was gone
to ship when you go in the show, So I
don't have to tell you guys that deal.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, well, you know my experience has been, you know,
putting us in a room with four or five other
people that we have never met in our life and
say do a show. And that's why I go back
to the Jersey thing, Like you guys don't knew each
other before, and you have some history, and you guys
can actually talk about stuff, and you know, having that

(52:22):
mentality of getting over it because it's just the show.
You know, it's it's easier.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
What's the age difference between you and Brittany By the
way twenty five years. Twenty five years. Okay, twenty five Bro,
I just.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Turned sixty one, Bro, sixty one.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
There's no way you're seventy one years old.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, I believe you. Fortunately, Yes, for you, Thank you, man.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Wow, I'm blown away. I had no idea you were
sixty one, Bro. If you saw me in the morning,
only fifty is worst case.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Thank you, bro. Honestly, I knew I liked you. Bro.
I believe me.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
If you saw me getting out of bed in the morning,
I say, ship that motherfucker's sixty one years vault.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
All right, Yeah, speaking of that was your How your
daughter and son take it that you married someone so young?
Were they like, dad, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Let's go to my son. My son is the most
non confrontational person. Do whatever me. Okay.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Remember they both knew Brittany beforehand, all right. And my
son was fine, all right. My daughter, I got to
be honest with my daughter had a little bit of issue.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
All right.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
They would have had a little bit, because guys, they're
basically five years apart.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Oh yes, and I was gone and my daughter has a.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Very very strong personality. But now, guys, I be honest.
The two of them are like best friends. They joke around,
they laugh. You know when I tell you, guys, I
knock on wood. Probably have between the X between my
beautiful wife, now between my kids, I probably have the
closest thing to a perfect life. Well, and it's good,

(53:54):
you know my daughter. And my daughter is funny and
now she busts our chops right like people around. Hey,
I want to introduce you. Step off right, Brittany.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I love those dynamics, brother, I really do admire that,
you know, And I can sense and see the beauty
of it and and the harmony, and I can tell
why you're so happy and just having a great life.
You have such good people around you. Man.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's it makes all the difference, guys, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Man?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Listen, I think God can call my number tomorrow. You
know I'm not. I'm not gonna be one of those
people that it could have should have.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Man. I did it.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I did it. I did good, bad, and different, you
name it so and I live it.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I live it, bro, I love it. Frank. Your energy
is contagious. Man, You're full of energy, full of enthusiasm. Man,
I can see why you landed such a young girl. Man,

(54:55):
I can see it.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
She keeps me honestly, she keeps me young.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
And the thing is, she places these freaking tiktoks on
me all right, like well, I'll be eating and.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
She scares the ship out of me. What don't stuck
next to you and her?

Speaker 4 (55:10):
You see her in a TikTok laughing, and then you
have comments, Oh my god, he needs anger management.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Oh my god, he must be her all right, going.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Going down to day. She keeps me up. I gotta
be honest, keeps me young. Guys, when I tell you,
we laugh all the time, all right.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
I can't remember the last time either one of us
raised our voice of bad or yeah, you know cool
it is, man, it.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Is, and they do. I know we didn't touch on this,
but it just hit me. Does she have kids or
do you guys plan on having kids?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
She doesn't. That's that's that's the one sort of subject
a little bit there.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
So now we we we talked about that in depth
many and many of times, many times. You know, we
have we have our two rescue dogs. Basically they can't
they can't even sleep in the bed with us anymore
because my Moe's snores so.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Loud like man of animals too, but I can't live
with them right exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Oh, I saw my bro, you got you got a
pity pity rescue.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
He's right here, right here, you know. Yeah, he's just
the biggest love bug.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Oh my god, I see a Rams fan, bro, all right,
big time?

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Who's your What happened to Cooper Cup? Come on, man?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Why did you get the man? I know that that
one hurt. He was one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, that one was one of my favorites. So for sure,
are you a Rams fan? I listen, I'm I'm an
everybody fan, honestly.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I like.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I like rooting for teams with some good people on it,
all right, And.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
If I see something good, you know that that somebody
did something nice with a fan or something like that
for them that week. You know. I was always a
Tom Brady fan and followed him. You know, we watch
his games, whether be in New England down to Tampa.
Then when he left, uh Britain Bridge A huge, huge
Dallas fan.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
All right, cool? All right, Well, whenever you want to
come down to a Rams game, you would love to.
I have a ton of tickets. We have tickets, Yeah,
we have nine season tickets.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Here man in the house.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
They're literally the best seats in the now. Yeah, no,
hit us up, like whenever you want, any game will
have fun. I love your energy, man, I would love
to hang dude, I do man.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
So last question, you guys go into Brava kan this year.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
I listen, there's only four people from Jersey, all right
and their spouses who are going. All right, from what
I understand, you know, it's I think it's only Dolores, Melissa,
Margaret and Teresa. I don't know if that's an insight
into the future or not. All right, so they basically,
you know, I didn't expect it to be invited this year,

(57:47):
but guys, I get down.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I love Yeah, it was funny.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I got I know you guys, but I.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Get hollered at all the time my production because when
we walk out the building and like all the people
are behind the barricades, did you know I got to
go and take a picture, and everybody wants They're.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Like, oh, Frank, Frank, let's go Frank. I was like, no, man,
these people waiting here for an hour? Yes, you're serious,
Well you guys can wait fifteen twenty minutes. You come on. Well,
I love you know vis Oh my god, she goes
yes you you just said, yes, I do, I don't.
I love it. You know, first of all, this this
coul this could all be gone tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
You all know that, all right, Yeah, But at the
same time, while it's here due it needs so much
to these people and say.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
That's exactly why we do it. You know, it's not
because it makes us feel it feels our ego or
anything like that. It feels our feeling to help other
people feel happy. If it makes them feel happy and
they just want a simple picture. It's not hard, right,
It's not that hard.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Not that hard.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It takes more energy. It takes more energy to be mean, yes, okay, right,
I'm sing. There was a There was a beef between
Ramona from New York and Dolores. Okay, all right, I
get that.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
So to watch what Happens Live, okay, and Ramona they
did some kind of dating games. So Ramona didn't know
who the three guys were, and I was one of them,
all right, so she didn't pick me, thank god. Right,
But anyway, afterwards, you know, you know, I basically we're
all leaving and Ramona is not taking pictures with anybody.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
I told him looking to take a picture, all right.
Next thing, you know, she's like hendon hoard all right.
So after that somebody must have said something to her,
well that's frank, you know, that's.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Dolorus's ex husband. So then she goes you know, they no,
come on back, we take a picture, right, So.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Now I'm going back to I'm going back to take
a picture. And in the background you hear the loorus.
Get the fuck away from her, don't you dare?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
All right? I was like, oh sorry, but that that's
the point I'm being is man, I don't care who
it is.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Guys, I've always been talve. You treat you the same
as you treat the janitor. Right then you're going back
down that ladder. And I've gone down that ladder man
of times seeing people. Are you shore going up?

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Hmm, I agree, one hundred percent for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I listen, guys, I do across my back. I got tattooed,
and I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
I used to be a big Nickelback fan, all right,
and that every day, every day is a gift, not
a given right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
And that's not a cliche. I live by that. Wake
up in the morning. I said, I'm grumpy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Man. There sometimes I'm grumpy and Britt just pulls me
out of it. And you really, guys, you when you
said I enjoyed life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I'm just glad you didn't see you had a picture
of his face tattooed to your back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Hold out, hold out, bro, there's got to be now
that that goes to a story again.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
We're going We're going to the NBC building in the
New York all right, So we had some kind of event.
I forgot what it was. In fact, Britt was with me.
And so now when you go there, you got to
go to security first and they give you a tag. Right.
But while I'm standing there, I look next to me,
Oh my god, that's Chad all right, the lead singer
from the Now I look at him. Everybody coming over

(01:01:00):
by me and taking pictures with me. So I see
him looking, say who's this guy right now? I'm seeing him,
and I'm like starstruck.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Coming yeah, I'm like stuttering. I'm like, hey, hey man,
I'm a huge fan. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I said, I even got you on my back. I said, no, no, no,
I'm sorry. I got one of your verses on my
back one of your songs. He's like, okay, thanks, so yeah,
but I did have a picture of him on my back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
That's too, buddy, That's very cool. Oh sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Anyways, you know, it's been great, Frank. I know we
can go on for hours and hours.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
But that was one of my favorite interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I love to hear I love you. It's been
a lot of fun. I'm finally connected and hopefully we
get to see each other soon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Guys, I would love to. I would love to. You know,
for sure, any you're still doing that would say you're
still doing your motocross.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I am, I am. You know I'm still doing the
Harley thing too. I I gotta I had an idea
that I wanted to pass by you, because that's why
I asked you about Bravo Con. But we'll talk offline.
It's a Harley Davidson deal that I really I got
to put together if you guys are interested in doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
But absolutely, And I can tell you something. Some of
the best time Brittany and I spend. You know, I
have a full dresser now and she loves just sitting
on a back and relaxing. I'le go out for a
ride some of the best quality time that we spend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Do you have a ride with Joe uh with Joe Banango?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Yes, In fact, Brittany and I went with Margaret and
Joe and it was a beautiful sunday here. We went
up into upstate New York, stopped for a bite, t
eat and everything else there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yes, absolutely, non living.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
I mean, I'm close with pretty much everybody on the
show except for maybe one person, all right. But other
than that, you know, Joe and Joe, Joe Gorga, I'm
very good friends with. He lives right down the block
for me up north. He lives right right down the
block for me down at the Jersey Shore. And but
Joe Banango were close, honestly, and me and Joe were
also very close.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
And he loves the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
No, I I love Joe Binninga and they're great people.
Is anybody else fried over there? Do you know on
the show?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
I know, listen, I know, I know the doc doesn't
all right, I know Doctor Aiden, all right, Jennifer's husband
doesn't all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I'm trying to think you know, Nate Daniel's husband, I
know he doesn't either.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
And Joe, Joe Gorga doesn't either, right, stop broke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
He can't reach the ground. He can't reach the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Get him a little bike.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I got him like one
of those eighty eighty c C.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Hondas well, right, they got They have strikes too. You know,
you don't have to put your feet down on listen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
The thing with Joe Gorga, is this all right? If
you want Joe Gorgan to do anything a right, you
don't call Joe. You might as well just call Melissa directly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yes, yes, he's not allowed to do anything unless he stays.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Okay, all right, And we all know that, we all
know that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
But the best is there because because Joe, Joe always
thinks he's like, yeah, he's the man, he's Tarzan.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
You know, yeah, yeah, towards any aloud out of the
house without saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Okay, let him think he does you know, you know
it for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I love Hey guys. I had a great time, man,
I had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Thank you so much, Frank, and uh definitely hopeful to
see you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Hey guys, it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Manwise, likewise, brother, you can't care yourself, Frank. That was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
That was a lot of fun. Oh man, great interview.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
He is so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Oh my goodness, he was great. I think he might
be my favorite interview of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has so much energy. And that's
part think part of the reason why I don't think
he's sixty or sixty one however old. He can't be
in his sixties. He's awesome. But you know, he does
work out, so that has a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Of help with so put you in a good mood. Man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yeah, So let me ask you this, you know, because
while we're having this conversation, I can't I couldn't help
but think about what you're going through obviously in your divorce,
and how what you can take away, if anything, from
the the dynamics and you know, of what we just
learned about him. Do you think you can do like

(01:05:18):
things like they did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Well, it's very interesting because as he was saying it,
I'm like, this is a lot like Teddy and I
right now, we're just you know, we're great friends, and
you know, I want to make sure she's she's taken
care of, and you know, but it's we we've maintained
that great relationship. So even though we're separated and we're
strange and you know, we're you know, still planning on divorcing,

(01:05:42):
like we're still like friends, yeah, you know, and I
still see her as a friend, Like this is probably
the best we got along that we've gone along in
a while. We always got along, but we're like really
getting along really well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm really hoping that that is true for
you guys, that you guys can just maintain that friendship
and able to amicallee you know, go your separate ways,
but still maintain that relationship for the sake of the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
And well, it's interesting. I think he mentioned something about
like the kids not even knowing when they were separated,
and I kind of feel like, you know that we're
you know, we we when when we stay at the house,
even before she got sick, it was just like the
kids never left and they're not really seeing anything different,
Like we're not fighting. It's great energy in the house.
So you know, it's very it's it's it's interesting you

(01:06:33):
asked that question because as he was talking, I'm like, Wow,
this is a lot like what I'm going through.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
So can you see yourself ever having like Christmas dinner
with your girlfriend or wife and then her.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Yeaheah. I mean we've so you know, I have a daughter,
my oldest daughter, right, yeah, and we've hung out with
her mom, her step who's a great, great man. I mean,
I couldn't have picked a better step dad. And yeah,
I mean we've we've hung out for Mother's Day. So
I'm all about that. Yeah, you know, it's all about Yeah,

(01:07:12):
I'm all about leading with love and all that. So yeah,
to totally see that vacations together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
They can't wrap my head around it, but it sounds
so ideal, like I could.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Totally do that right now, you know if obviously you
have to respect your significant other, right and sometimes you
know that's not something that you do right away, you know.
With with Bella's mom, I mean I think that took
thirteen years to happen. Yeah, that took a while. That
wasn't just like you know, but that took thirteen years.

(01:07:45):
But then it happened. But you were younger too, lot, Yeah,
we were younger. Yeah, I was younger and all that,
But I mean I could have done it at you know,
you're two. You know, like I've just always been very
cool that way. But again, you have to you have
to respect your significant other and just you can't push it.
It's just got to be when the time is right,

(01:08:06):
it's right. And but yeah, I mean ideally it's great
for the children and if you know, and I think
when you really that's why I ask that question about
when did you really become friends? Right, because I think
that's when you can do it makes I think when
one person still has feelings for the other, you can't
do or resentment exactly. It's you got to get over

(01:08:29):
the resentment and you got to get over the like
you have to really now be on the friend zone,
and then you could easily do it because you just
don't look at each other that way anymore. You literally
look at each other like friends.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
You know how long that's going to take, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Yeah, I mean it depends right that that you know,
it can be pretty short, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I mean you've heard of relationships where they they break up,
they get divorced, and they have sex, they get remarried,
and then they break up again and they get divorced,
they have sex, and they get married again. It's crazy, crazy.
But my point is is that for me, when I
have those you know, passionate feelings with the woman, I

(01:09:16):
don't know if I could turn them off.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
You know, ever.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Me like, well, if you break up like for me,
my motto has always been, you know, once we're broken up,
we're broken up, because obviously there were.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Some attraction and you don't see each other anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
God, and you don't see each other anymore. Even with
one of my relationships when I was younger, it was
I was very much in love and it broke my
heart and everything. And it was a very mature conversation
that I had with her, and it was you know,
I love you, and I know that you know this
is not going to be a forever relationship, and I
have the respect that we're going our separate ways. And

(01:09:53):
it was one of the hardest things I've ever done,
but it taught me like, yeah, I can't have just
a friendly relationship with a woman I love this much. Right.
I don't know if that could happen with camera, although
you know, I guess when you when you've been with somebody.
This is my experience so far. It's not that the

(01:10:15):
passion is not there or the desire is not there.
But we've been together, gosh, fifteen years now, and it's
it's more of a I can see myself with this
woman for the rest of my life. I can do
anything with her, and we're friends, we're like partners, were
everything together. So if maybe twenty years from now that
was to change, maybe that would be a different perspective,

(01:10:37):
you know, because I have that friendship, I have that connection,
and you know, I could probably see it happening. But
young when I was younger, like done, I don't want
to see you again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I think the key point is when that if one
person still loves the other, it's really hard. But I
think when the love is over that you know, the
passion and all that stuff. I think that is when
you can probably do it, and especially if you have
a like I've always had a very short memory, Like no,

(01:11:10):
I've never held remorse, Like there's not one person right
now that I could say I'm pissed off at right
I think that's been a little bit of a gift
of mine, because that's not easy for me. It's always
been I'm not saying I never get mad, like I've
been mad for two three months. Then once once I'm
over it, I'm over it, and I don't I don't

(01:11:33):
hold any grudges, and it's just easy for me to
just forget and then move forward. And I think that's
what I mean. I'm still friends with girls I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Used to date. Oh you are okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm friends. I'm still friends. In fact,
you know when I when all that stuff happened, I
you know, some of them started texting me back just
just to check up on me, not trying to connect
in a let's get back together, but just you know, hey,
how you doing. Hope you're doing well. And it's funny.

(01:12:06):
I was having a conversation with with a good friend
of mine actually today and he was just saying, how,
you know I've always had good relationships. I've always ended
things well, you know, and how he never ended things well.
So he was like, man, people always reach out to
you because you've always ended things well, whereas I always
ended badly. And you know, I have no friends that

(01:12:30):
I used to date, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah, I mean that's sort of me. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I'm not friends with anybody any of my day, any
of my exes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Two reasons, you know. First is the reason I just explained,
like when you've had sexual relationships or attractions to that
other person, it's hard to turn those off unless you
know there's something, you know, major that caused to break up,
like infidelity or something. But there's there's always going to
be that attraction. I think the other is out of

(01:13:03):
respect for my current relationship, so that she doesn't feel
like there's something there right. And that's why I couldn't
understand the dynamics with Paulie and Frank and the whole
relationship with the families and how they don't have those insecurities.
If he will, but after he explained it to us

(01:13:23):
the way he explained it to us, you know, he
respects her so much that even though she said I'm sorry,
you know, I forgive you and I'm willing to go
past this. He had so much respect for her that
he elevated her to a point where it's more than
just a sexual attraction with this person. It's a respect,

(01:13:45):
it's an admiration. It's like, I don't want to hurt
this person. And I could see that. I could totally
see having a relationship with a woman like that, like,
you know what, it's not you, it's me, and I
I respect you so much I don't want to put
you through this ever again. So it made sense.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
But I think that the key thing that he said
as well is that he brought Dolores's husband around when
they were around, and then that made everything, you know,
work because then he got to see it for himself
that there wasn't any you know, things going on behind
the scenes, because you know, you could very easily think

(01:14:28):
differently if you're not really there, But once you bring
them on and they get to see each other, you're like, okay,
there's there's definitely nothing happening. This is a legitimate just
friendship because it can very easily be interpreted. The interpretation
of that could be easily different. Yeah. So but again

(01:14:48):
I think it takes to you, you know, and and
that's why it's so hard to do. That's why you
don't have too many people. That's why you don't have
too many.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
People pull that off, right, because both people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Have to feel the same way, andally that's not the
case because one typically has a grudge.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Yeah, but I also think it's a maturity thing. I
think the older you get, the more you realize that that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
I followed this account on Instagram that does all these
funny videos, and they did one recently where the guy
and the girl are just walking down the street holding hands,
and they run into the girl's ex boyfriend and she
totally gets excited, jumps on his lap, and the guy
that's holding her hand, that current boyfriend's looking over. They're
imagining all these things, and the ex picks her up,
you know, kisses her and makes her you know, this princess.

(01:15:39):
He's just looking at her, starts crying, and the next
scene is, oh, let me introduce you to my ex boyfriend.
It's hilarious, but that's you know, how young men's minds work,
Like what the fuck? Yeah, anyways, it was great catching
up brother. Likewise, I'm so happy it's you and hear

(01:16:00):
from you. How are things good going with you?

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Going well? I mean, yeah, Teddy's obviously doing better, so
she's improving, so that's good news there. The kids are great.
You know. I'm working a ton and I just came
back from Europe. That was a great trip. Now he
took a break. Yeah, I went to Central pay for
unfortunately only for a day. But then I went to
Capri for about six days and it was sort of

(01:16:26):
a last minute trip that I went on. And it
was the first time in sixteen years being by myself. Yeah,
so I found myself fourth of July just doing nothing
and my kids were out of town, a lot of
my friends were out of town. And it was the
first time on a fourth of July I did not
have plans, like you know, normally there's someone having a
cool party whatever, or I was always with the kids

(01:16:49):
for a lot of for a lot of years. And
a buddy of mine who was in Central Page just
called me and said, hey, I got this yacht. It
was a three hundred foot yacht, fifty million dollar yacht,
which I've never been on, and it's just like, hey,
grab a flight. I got everything covered and uh, you know,
we're only going to be here for one more day
in santro Pe, but come down and then we'll go
to Capri. And it was so spontaneous. I'd never done

(01:17:12):
something like that in a long long time, where I
literally literally bought the trip on fourth of July, I
mean the ticket to go to Central Pe, got there
on the fifth, and and then I was there for
for a week. Fun, fun time. Yeah, it was a
good time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Those are the best, the spontaneous ones. You just let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
So I'll good there good for you brother, Yeah for
you man. That's all yeah, all right, all right, my
man was our show. Looking forward to our next one,
and uh we'll see you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Well, we'll see you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
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