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January 27, 2025 33 mins

Teddi and Tamra are joined by iconic RHONY alum and contestant on The Traitors… Dorinda Medley!

Why was Dorinda the first faithful to be murdered this season? Did the traitors have a secret agenda against the Housewives?

Plus, what’s the truth behind the Lindsay Hubbard drama?! And, what did Dorinda think of the shocking RHONY finale? 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamps and Camra Judge.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi, guys, welcome to a special episode of The twat Sea.
We are excited to have on Derinda Medley. She was
a contestant on Traders season three. Obviously, she was a
previous cast member on the Real Housewives of New York City,
and her bio says feisty and outspoken, Derenda expressed her
resentment for sacrificing her spot for a shield to allow

(00:32):
the whole group to have a bigger pot of money.
She eventually became the primary target by the Traders among
all the Housewives contestants as their first murder to further
evoke chaos, which resulted in her being the first eliminated contestant.
She was a main cast member on New York City
from season seven through twelve. I thought she was on longer,

(00:53):
I did too. Medley left the franchise for a few
years until she returned in twenty twenty threes the Real
Housewife's Ultimate Girls Trip.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Let's bring her in well.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Now.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I may have been on Watch has Live, I've may
have been on The Tonight Show, But this year I
finally made it on two teeth.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
You know, well, you know we love you. You know
I love you. How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:22):
IM good?

Speaker 5 (01:23):
I know we talk all the time, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I well, you know I love your show and you
know I love you too. You know I love you more,
both of you.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
We love you. We're happier here.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
What's new?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Are you dating anyone? What's the four to one one?
Give us some tea?

Speaker 6 (01:40):
What's new? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Trying to date, but I don't know how to approach it.
I just don't like, do I go on an app?
I was actually so funny you asked me this, Teddy.
I was just getting my hair done.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
I was thinking, do I really go on an app? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
I should try it, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I mean I went on one. I went on an app.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I am on no so I didn't make any announcement
on Instagram, but I i'm I've.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Went on an app. But here's the problem with the
app like one.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't know that I would naturally like be attracted
to someone solely by a photograph like I need both.
So I'm I'm like the way that I have kind
of been handling the app is. Last night I was
at dinner with Kyle and a bunch of our friends
for her birthday, and we decided as a group to
go through the people who have given me a rose.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
And then you just kind of go, Okay, what app
is this Hinge?

Speaker 6 (02:36):
I don't know, it's so funny because someone told me
to go on hinge.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Hey what about Riyah?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I heard you no Riah, No, you don't want Riya
because Riya is I mean, granted, I didn't get accepted
to Riah, so.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Oh I didn't get accepted either.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh so you applied.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I applied to Ria ages Ago and Andy Cohen actually
wrote me a recommendation, and Carol Rosboy had like a
spellar recommendation list and I didn't get in.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
They said, you're on a wait list.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was just thinking, wait a second, Luanne and Sonya
and everyone else is on like why not me?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Maybe I'm just not artsy enough.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Even on it exactly, but also even people that don't
fit the criteria of being on it or on it,
so I don't know, maybe they're just booked up. But
my friend that is on it, she said Riat is like,
actually it's too small of a pool and it's a
bunch of bullshitters anyway. So I mean the thing about Hinge, well,

(03:30):
at least the problem that I'm finding with Hinge is
I don't know why, Like the only.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
People reaching out to me are young people.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Oh I don't.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I'm like, no, no, young what about Like?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I think it's people reaching out like they want
to have a good time.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And then I look in their bios.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And it's like open to short term, blah blah.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Tell you don't waste any time.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Man, it's fifteen minutes and you're already on a dinning app.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
I didn't know we were going to go there. I
was gonna say how you're doing with everything going out?
You're doing great?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, guys, this doesn't mean that I'm doing great. It
means I need a distract. Somebody even on the app
said to me, He's like.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Hey, I know who you are.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
You're clearly on here because you need a distraction right now.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I do. I mean, there's two nights.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
A week where I'm living at freaking Kyle's house that
I don't have my kids. You know, I'm not in
a place where I'm going to be going out to
clubs or meeting people. So like I to have somebody
just to talk with a little bit, like I need
a little bit of a distraction.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
But it's a tricky were married.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I was with Edwin for sixteen years.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
This is a big change for you.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, and I'm laughing right now. You could
have talked to me last week and I was sobbing.
I mean, you know how it is like they're going
through the different stages of grief.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
You know knows that better than both of us.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, loss is it's a terrible thing, and it's such
a readjustment, and you know what it is. It's it's
because we assume at this point in our lives, so
we've kind of are where we're supposed to be. So
to have to throw everything, the baby out with the
bathwater and start, I often would say, really again.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Again, this wasn't the plan.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And for someone like me, who's like an uber planner,
you know, like, this isn't of course, it's not what
I wanted. Of Course, I would never want my kids
to be sad, and I you know, I'm doing everything
in my power to make sure that we both show
up for our kids in the best way possible. But
I also think it's impossible to navigate your emotions from

(05:48):
day to day. Like there are some days where I
am like sobbing my eyes out, and I'm like, I.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Can't be alone. I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't want this. But you know, like all of
these things. And then there's some days where I'm like,
I'm actually okay.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, wow, well, yeah, what's going to be. This is
the thing I always say about any sort of grief
for loss. In the beginning, it's so big and it's
so overwhelming, and you just you can't get you navigate
around the grief.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
And then as time goes on, you'll you'll find.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That different sorts of people were enter your life that
maybe you wouldn't have had if you were still married.
You'll be open to different situations and you start growing bigger,
and the grief never goes away, the loss, but it
gets smaller and smaller, your life bigger and bigger. And
that's the good news. You'll you'll find in six months
you'll be like, you know what, I kind of look
forward to being alone tonight. I like my alone.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I told you that, Like, especially with the separation of
the kids, you'll get to a point where You're like,
you know what, I like my me time.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I like sometimes like go to daddy. Mommy needs her
me time, and you'll appreciate those time.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
New York for a week and of course she just
she'll kill me for saying this because you know, we
can't say the word hand and I get a text.
I'll you.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Is don't talk about me publicly.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
But she was here for almost a week. And at
the beginning it was all so great. I was cooking,
I was loving it everything. By the end, I was like,
got bye bye, no more, you know whatever soda. I'm like,
what do I You know, it just changed completely because
I'm so used.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
To being on my own.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, that's the problem for me because it really I
didn't do it right when I if I were to suggest,
like I think of people that kind of got divorced
or lost a partner, they get right back on the
horse and start dating. And even though I dated John,
I knew it was never going to be serious. I
saw him twice a week. I know people don't believe that,

(07:42):
but I really did. He never it was sort of
a just a you know, and I I do. I
still talk to him, but it was never going to
be that sort of thing I jumped into Holy And
I think when you wait too long, especially when you're
a little older like I am, you can get a
little weird about your time.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And then also, as I mean, I've noticed as as
I age, I'm even more particular about like, oh, well,
that's not gonna work for.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Me, you know, Like I'm very jorrenda.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Don't you feel like, you know, Richard was the love
of your life and he's not. He's not replaceable. And
like I always thought like if something happened to Eddie,
I don't necessarily think that I'd run out and day
when when I divorce, you know, when I got divorced,
I'm like, Kelly, Yeah, I want to date. But at
this point, when you have that love of your life
and it fulfilled you in every way, it's like I

(08:31):
don't really want to.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I was lucky to have that, you know, what's.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Interesting to him?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
When I was thinking about this as well the other day,
I think I said it in an interview and then
I really talked about it to myself because I do
a lot of talking to myself.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
But you know, I own a lot right up there.
A plutomander wandering around aimlessly. I don't know if Richard Medley.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
If it would work now after being really such a
different person than the person that I was with.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
But you were forced to be a different person. You lost.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
But like if he landed, if like he showed up
tomorrow said it's all a joke.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Act.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
She was just away for thirteen years, let's pick up
where we left off left off. I think it'd be
very difficult for both of them.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
We think question was is this just a rumor?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Or was your relationship with Richard based on one of
the Was there.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
A character or a couple on sex?

Speaker 6 (09:27):
What was the characters was supposedly based on me?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think she fell out a window or something like that.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
He was like, because I was like a cigarette, she
fell out the window. So the truth of the matter
is it could be.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
What do you think Richard would have thought of your
reality TV career?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
That's strange.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
He loved going like we would go because you remember
I was friends with all the girls, so we would
go to all the filming. And he is as a
big academic as he was and sort of very serious
guy in his world. He loved because he was a genius.
So this sort of thing fascinated human behavior, fascinating. So
we went to all the filming. I think he always

(10:10):
said to me, if you want to do it, you
could do it. But I couldn't do it at the
time because I had his father. Obviously, Hannah was in school.
I just didn't want to do it while she was.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
I honestly didn't know that he filmed with you.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Yes, yes, he would come.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
He was did not know that.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
He was fascinated by the UH process and he found
the women very entertaining.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
He loved Luanne, he loved Ramona.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
So it was I know, but it's it's more not
so much the filming part. I don't I think he
would because he didn't care about those things. I'm just fiercely,
fiercely independent now to the point like literally I went
on like three dates with this guy.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
My friend Mona was laughing so hard about this.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm like, you don't want to just start it pissing
me off. He kept saying to me, what are you
doing this weekend? What are you doing this weekend? And
I'm like, well, that's none of your business, and she goes, well,
that's kind of nice.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
I'm like, no, it's intrusive. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh, and one not to make this about me, but
tam one thing that you said that I want to
clarify because this will be what's picked up as clickbait.
You said, you know, because Eddie is the love of
your life. He fulfilled you in all these ways, Like
you don't think that you can move on. I don't
want to discredit the love that I had for Edwin,
that I still have for Edwin.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, of course, and you have children together. He's a
father of your kids like he is my family.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So whether we're going through ups or downs and we're
you know, we're deciphering our next steps.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Like I love Edwin like.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I always and that will grow, you know. It's Hannah's father.
Ralph always comes and stays, comes the day after Christmas
and has lunch, and I still love him. Like if
he called me a too in the morning and needed
me for anything, I.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Would run to his age.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Once you're bonded in that way and you share children
and you share life, I think it's a shame when
people don't get along. I think it's a lost I
don't think you have to stay married forever.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
And I'm but I've been very lucky because I.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Am surrounded by incredible people and the and I don't
have a ton of friends.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
I know people think I do, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
But the people I like and the people that uh,
you know, I chose to attach to, are I keep them?

Speaker 6 (12:15):
You know what I mean? I don't, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I have a lot of very strong women friends,
and I find women, especially women of our age, very fascinating.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, speaking of.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know, we know when you first were put on
pause or whatever it was you had said, you'd cried
your eyes out.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
I may, I may be a pause, but I'm ready
to play.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
God, where do you?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Where do you stand now?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Are you liking life without Real Housewives of New York?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Or yes? You know, but I'm not like the other housewives.
It wasn't easy for me. I bawled my eyes out.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Well, me and you bonded over actually yeah, the three
of us were let go at the same time.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I know.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
That's how me and Teddy bonded was over the loss
of the show. That's how me and you also got
super close.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
It was me and you.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Even Hannah, hannahould get on the phone and talk.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And she's such a voice of reason and She's like,
you wanted to knock our heads together and say, pull
your head out of your asses. This is not a
good show for you.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I think, but I think, you know, there's we're
the new trace A Vegas.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But also I think women like us rejection in any
way does not feel good.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
No, I don't get any fired.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I mean I was the woman that was employee of
the month all the time, like to the point that
I can't make the employee of the month again. I'm like, oh,
yeah you can, because you know what I mean. So
I grew up in that the era where you know,
women like us were very competitive.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
We had to be the best. We didn't get fired.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, yeah, that was the first time I was ever
fired from anything. Me too, Me too, very first time,
not a job, not even Burger King.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Didn't even get fired from.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Great thing about NBC or they do revisit you like
I've done a couple Ultimate Girls' Trips, you know. I
just I just did Traders. They do, and that's enough
enough for me.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I was just on the phone someone that said, if
they asked you to go back to New York, would
you go back?

Speaker 6 (14:14):
I said, sure, why not?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Is there a Peacock show about Bluestone manor.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yes, we're working on it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm hopefully gonna have hopefully, hopefully, hopefully camera's up this summer.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Speaking of Bravo, you know I'm not gonna not ask.
Can we clear up the error about the fellow Brava
leberty Lindsey Hubbard saying you spread a rumor that she
was pregnant and miscarried, Like, what happened here?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Please explain?

Speaker 6 (14:49):
I'm lost nothing to explain. I don't know her. I
don't even know if we've ever met.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
She supposedly was in the same room doing makeup with
Bravo kid never said that have no and actually NBC
and Bravo backed me said that I didn't have I
have nothing. Can you imagine if I had anything to
do with casting don't have that didn't we don't have
any friends, Like it's just absolutely one hundred percent rumor.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Margaret told me to say.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
People know me like tam I'm not that woman.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, yeah, Honestly I had a conversation with Margaret. I'm like,
what that and she goes Tarma, it never happened.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
It never happened. She wasn't even at the party. I
was there with NBC.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
People and Jersey girls and they were all ready to
come out. So I don't even it's funny as you know,
But maybe the listeners don't know. Summerhouse people and Housewife
we don't hang out together just because we're b There's
like the blow Deck people.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
There's a Summer House people.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Only a Bravo con.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
We'll see. That's where I own world.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
In mind, where her and our lives cross, right, I
know about first of all, she didn't have a miscarriage,
so how would I know, I mean, Gavina, Misscarritt is
such a personal thing.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, for you to say something very privately, Was she
trying to.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Insinuate that you had her kicked off the Traders because
she was cast anything?

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Can I tell you something? That's what I think was
really the quest of it.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And I think also too maybe and listen, I wish
her well, she just had a beautiful baby.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
You know, she should just focused on that, you know.
But you know, I don't know uh why she.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Would think or anyone would think, as you know, we
don't even know who's going to be on Traders.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
I know, I know they don't. Has she reached out
to you at all to say, like, you.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Know what, that's the shame of it if she picked
up the phone. But there's no there's no art.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
You can dance somebody, you know what I mean, you
can do anything.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
She could have just called Jan Geyser and said.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
And get the phone.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, for sure that was to me, that was just sad.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, I was like, really taken.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I'm like, whoa, Like, those are some deep deeps to say.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Somebody was like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Do you have any idea who might have said told
her that?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
But that's another thing. If you're gonna my whole thing
in life is if you're going to make accusations, say
who it is.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, just tell me who it is and then we'll
really clear it up fast.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Now as close it's the change Sube, as close as
we are.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
We never talked about what happened on Traders before it aired.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
That's a hard show to do now, I know for sure.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Being the first person to be murdered in the season
is not only disappointing, it's kind of embarrassing. It's like
you packed up, you were there, you went a fart,
you know, long ways you're in isolation for three days.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You got to be out on that freaking.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's like over preparing for the Olympics and then not
running in the game. I've got the clothes, I've worked.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Out, I've That's the thing, Like, there's so much preparation.
There's psychological exams, there's all kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
You have to have a physical.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
You get there, you're isolated. Then you have to do
a swimming test.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I mean your big day out the first three days
they take you to the YMCA.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I can't picture either of you doing a swimming test.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Swimming. I was so excited to do that. Damn swimming test.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Did you have to do it? We didn't do a
swimming Oh we have to do a swimming test. Oh yeah, I'm.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Just excited to be there. You know. I blocked out
the three weeks I was in it. It was as
if they hit I was going to war.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You had planned on winning that thing?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Are we back three weeks? Worry about me? And then
it's like I'm home.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
When Johnny Bananas was the first one to be off
the show, he was not happy about it, like.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
He didn't even hold back.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
So you're not allowed to go on social media, you're
not allowed, like you probably couldn't even go on your
radio show.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
You couldn't let anybody know that you're home.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
You're so disappointed, you're shamed, you're embarrassed, and then you
have to bring it home and hide it for another
three weeks and you can't be on social media, you
can't go on your radio, so you sit there back.
Basically like in Cloak and Dagger, I.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Had to do the same thing.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
I couldn't do it my podcast and can do anything.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
So when you came back and you were rightfully pissed
off that you were left out there, you were hungry,
you brought it back and you were very vocal. I
was like, no, don't do it, because they were gonna
think one of the people on the raft were a trader.
And then if you get too vocal the whole thing,
like the first part of the show, you have to
tread lightly on what you say and what you do

(19:36):
because then you just get fingers pointed and oh.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
And I did the what did I say?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm angry, hungreen, cold, And what that doesn't make up
is a smiley face.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, do you regret any of it? Like, are you like,
should I have handled this differently.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Uh think you can do that? You know you're so
in it, of course you. I'm a regretter. I regret
every every.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Day in my life. But I said to someone last
night at dinner, I've said that if you're mad at me.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I am like that to such an overthinker.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Aren't they picking up their taxes? That's how I lived
my life.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
Okay, why didn't I see.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
The three dots?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And then the three dots went away?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
So because I'm a big worry war you know, I
was very sad to go this. This is the dilemma
in tam where you can speak to this. Obviously, yes,
I should have been more quiet, right, But then is
that me?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
No, but it's all playing a game and we're not
gamers have housewives.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Like would you ever go back?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Maybe for the right amount of money, But it was
I'm not a gamer and it was really hard, and
I thought that, you know, oh, I'm a housewife. You
know we think ten steps ahead when we say things.
It's it does not compare you.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Think your house We think ten steps ahead.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
I tried to when you spared to the gamers, No,
it doesn't even Pat, I don't.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Think it was one particular thing.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I think that the house I think they the gamers
are very smart, I think, but I could be wrong.
I think a lot of it has to do with
being such a strong character personality.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yes, yes, and and you would have been an obvious choice.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I got it wrong.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
And watch Rappers live or it's not Survivors, it's a Survivor.
I never watched any of those Survivor.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Games me either. I didn't know who anybody was from
the game, so that at all.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
They approach everything very differently.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And I mean, Wells said something too which really resonated
with us. He was like the difference between housewives and
like he's like me for example, He's like when we
weren't filming and we had downtime, He's like, I would
just be quiet. I would just sit there. It's like,
but the housewives are so used to being on all
the time.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
They like, never slow down. We're like, quit wasting this
good material.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, because you have no other outlets at that point,
you have no phone, no TV, no news, no anything.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
So that's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
I was so desperate.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't know if they gave it little goodie bag
when we arrived in our hotel room and it had
like a little alligator or something in it. I felt
like I was Tom Hanks with his volleyball. Wilson like
talking to it because you have no phone, TV's limited,
It's like hi, you know it's a mind game.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I mean, it screws with your head.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Many fans and contestants on the show thought it was
stupid to murder you since you were suspected to be
a trader.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Do you think it would have been smart for the
traders to use you as a shield?

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, Who do you think should have gone home first?

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Anyone except me? Who?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Did you like connect with anybody except me?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Who was like your person that you Yeah that you
didn't already know you don't name a housewife, But was
there somebody in there that you're like?

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Are you connected with? Or I just love Bob Harper?

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah no, I said to him too. Bob Harper must
be a real heart.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
Just that's Bob Harper. He's amazing. And I also liked
Sam Britney Spears X you did.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
We haven't an entire words. I doesn't talked well.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
He's good to look at.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
He's just such a nice sweet, I was bothering him
the whole time.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
And are you still watching?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Like are you up to date on the recent episodes
or did you just once you were gone?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
You're like, peace, I'm not one.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
I haven't been home at all. You know, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't like, I'm not a big problem with me
is I'm not a big TV walkhert. I'll attempt to
watch TV, but I fall asleep too easily. Hannah's like,
I have never me thirty one years made it through
a movie with you.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
You're like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's like it's a running joke in our house, like
go to the movies, No mam will fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So like, why tonight, I'm not going out, so I'll like,
I'll catch up on everything tonight.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
The only thing I watch religiously.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's my great thing to do is like because I
wake up about five point thirty and I get my
coffee and I watch whatever housewife show was on the
night before. Oh yeah, it's my morning thing. I love watching,
Like I get excited.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
What's your favorite friend?

Speaker 6 (24:14):
And I watched the New York finish?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Oh my god, can we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
My god?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
We just recapped it. We're in disbelief. It was such
a dark episode, or.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
To watch it was do you think do you think
Brind's this is Brent, She's done?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Do you think that? Or do you think they'll bring
her back?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Well, you know, when I see stuff like that, all
I can say is, I mean, I brought it up once.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I brought it up a million times. You can put
it on my grapestone. Why did I get fired?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Put it on my grapes?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Oh my god? Do you think there'd ever be a world?

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Say that? In the Nurse Nome why.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I got in? But I was like, why did I
get fired?

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Do you? Well?

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I think they need to bring you back.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
And I think that they need to bring some they
you know, keep some girls, bring some of the originals back.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Who not a lot of you guys.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Are still in New York.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I don't, but I would be happy with like another
New York version of a show where we.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Get But also, guys, I'm missing girls trips. I'm missing
watching that.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I love the girls trips. To me, that was the
best of all worlds.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Why weren't you on the Dating the new Bravo dating
show that like two of the girls from Potomac went on,
Shannon went on, did they ask.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
You to do that?

Speaker 6 (25:36):
That? I thought Luanne was a great choice.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Oh, oh, I didn't really Luanne.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I don't think if Shannon as a big dater, it's funny.
I've found that an unusual choice. I don't think i'd
be good.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
It was an afterthought.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I think that somebody else was swissed to be on it.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Can you maybe?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Oh, is what I heard, and then somebody fell out
and they added her.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
You know, I don't think people think of me as
a big dater, and you know, so great at it,
and Laurenne is such a great dater and she's like.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
But I don't think the show is about dating. It's
about entertainment.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But I wish it was both of you guys, because
if they could have two gals from Potomac, why.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Couldn't have to?

Speaker 6 (26:12):
It would have been very well together. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I would have liked that.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
It would have been great, have been like a little
mini you know, New York.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Yeah, and they didn't ask me, So there's the here there.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know, recently you had said I saw it on
Instagram that you think that they should have named the
how real house has rony. They should have named it
something else with the recast.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know, I just think it would have given them
a better chance. Yes, because there's too.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Much comparison, you know, and and there's also these things
I like them better. Well, it's not about that they
decided to stop one completely, yeah and start fresh. But
I think by doing this sort of so just clean wipe,
and I think it very surprised people, right, Yeah, introduce
these girls that were just so different, and as I

(27:04):
said on Alex Baskin's thing, you know, they are sort
of the young New York.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
But there was too much here's scenes it's compared. Yeah,
here's season thirteen.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
People we've grown up with, nostalgia, people we know, people
we've watched Da New Girls. Yeah, named it the Girlfriends
of New York because I don't, I know, they get
a lot of grief. We hate it with this. With that,
I don't I think they would have gotten a better chance.
As I say, I said it and every the crown
was too heavy.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah, do you remember do you remember Ladies of London?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yes, it's basically a housewife show, Yes, but it was
named something different.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
They could have done something like that.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
If they've done Girlfriends of New York or Ladies of
New York or something catchy, then it could have you know.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I think it just also too there's something, there's something
about it. There may have even been an easier way
to integrate it, integrate us a little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, because then you because these are the new ones.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
You know they don't you.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Know, So that's what's hard for them now, I know
you weren't there, like I tay something. I know a
bunch of them. They're nice girls. It's just totally different ballgame.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Do you think it's because none of them are actually
really friends.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well, I think that's the key to the show. I mean,
I think that's why, Oh she does so well, New
York does so well. I think that's why, you know,
Jersey did what didn't do so well at the end
of it, Beverly Hills, you can feel that friendship. Salt
Lake City to me, is.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Like old New York, but we're starting to see a
crawl like so good, but we're starting to see a
little bit of a crack.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
And Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I feel like not everybody's friends on that show anymore.
The cast has turned over so much that it's starting
to have it's missing something, and it's the friendship.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
When they start to bring people and bring people up,
bring people and bring people out, that's when it feels
like it loses its authenticity because.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Then you don't get connected to any buddy, and then
they're not really connected to be.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Able to go.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I always say the thing about when you have people
that really know each other, even though it's still awkward
and still terrible and still hurtful, but you can go
deeper with them. Yeah, shoes and they're they're you know,
up to a point. It's recoverable because you know each
other so well outside of it, so you can unrap
a bit off season, right. But a lot of these people,
I feel like they don't even see each other off season, right.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Jenna Jana was not much what happens like last night
and she said that they have none of them have
talked to Brian since the reunion.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be a hard
road for that.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
That could be because of death. You know what I
thought was interesting to day And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
What it's like if they did this on your Guys
shows and we never had production hanging around like that
on the couches, sitting around all just hanging out.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Now, No, no, we didn't either.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
We did not. We like it felt really like MTV
Real World they did.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
It felt different.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
We didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, yes, I could like go outside and like
talk to a producer and like veg or I could
do that, but like we were never just like unless
it was like we were flying somewhere and we weren't Mike.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Then even then you're friendly and they're helpful.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
But that was like when Ray was sitting on the
couch and they were lounging all around the production I
was like, ew, I don't know, was that.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Let me ask you a question, was that some of
the production crew that you worked with. Did you notice
any recognize anybody?

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Couple people, yes, but we just not even that it
was new. I just felt like I felt like there
was sort of like.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
A yeah, well do you think that was? They did that?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
And when they left it like when we stopped filming,
they left.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
And unless they thought more drama would come, then they'd
leave one person with the fire.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I don't know, given the situation and Brend's headspace, maybe
they were trying to comfort her.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, I think they were trying to show that she
was pretending absolutely nothing happened the night before.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, that's true, you're right about that.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's that was that.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
I agree with Jenna.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
That was heartbreaking because that to me read of someone
that really didn't know how to handle.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
It, process the emotions.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Do you think that bren was lying about telling Uba?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
This is where I have a problem. That is, there's
certain buzzwords, there's certain heavy, heavy words you can whisper
and it lands, and we know the words. So there's
no casual way to say our ape in any way,
shape or form without it. That that's something I personally
would ever pass over. And if and if she I

(31:41):
just don't see it was a very intelligent, like you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
She would have remembered that, right, She would have.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Remembered such a big word, right, Yeah, it's just a word.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
That you would remember.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
And I think Uba definitely you could tell by her
reaction that she's like, she you never told me this?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Ever, I wouldn't you know.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
If she did know about it, she would have been
following up because Uba is as a girl's girl.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, she's very passionate.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Anyone would like if you someone told me something like that,
the first thing you.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Would be was like, oh my god, are you getting help?
What can I do?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
I just I don't. I felt. Yeah, it was really
hard to watch that.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It was really hard hard.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
And before we have to wrap up, is there any
other juicy nuggets you want to leave us with?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Things we should?

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I mean everybody should listen to your radio show for one, Well,
thank you.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Well.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I have to say I'd never I never thought i'd
get so much fain from getting murdered first, so that that.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Was seeing you everywhere.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
You were on the Jimmy Fallon show, weren't.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
You yes the other day. I worried about it for
six months. I held the secret.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I was I'm like, and of course, I'm like, everyone's
gonna think you loser.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah you did this, do that? Now I got to
go through that.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I was so uptight about it, and then it came
and they're like, do you want to be on the
tonight's show?

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Like wow, Well, because everybody disagreed with that, but also I.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Think it it would have been more, It would have
even been a better show if you're on longer, because
I have a feeling.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I really did. You don't want to If nothing else,
I'm good content. You know you may not have wanted
to get out some more mugs and T shirts somehow.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for
coming on, Duranda. We we love you.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Miss you, see you later. I miss you, guys.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Bye, I miss you.
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