The Twot Seat: MIGUEL LUCIANO

Viral Bravo comic Miguel Luciano joins the pod to share his “pinch me” moment when Tamra discovered him. 

He dishes out hilarious Housewives hot takes, from Julia and Adriana’s scissoring scene to Tamra and Heather’s friendship.

Plus, he acts out fan favorite moments with his signature impersonations.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of The twat Seat
with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge. We are so
excited we have Miguel Luciano on. He I'm sure you
guys have seen him all over the world wide Web
because he is.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
He's a big thing now. He You know when I
realized he was big, I mean I followed him for
quite a while and then I did an interview with
E News and they brought up one of his clips
on E News and I'm like, I know him, I
know him.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
That was pretty wild. I was at Whole Foods at
like eight thirty pm and someone writes me, Tamra just
talked about you on any News. I'm like, what I
had like eggs in my hand, a protein bar and
like a poppy or something. So it was great ambling
online to try to find it. And then the next
day it came out. That was like a real pinch
me moment.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
It was that the first time did this has happened?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
That was the first time I had been spoken about
in that way, like look in this world? Yeah, I
think by that point, I had been noticed by Bravo
and by some of the other people, but that was
like a national moment, and of course from you, that
was pretty epic. Yeah, and I've been calling you the
MVP of the oc ah.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, so that was pretty legit. It felt very legitimate,
like okay, I'm you know, I've entered. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
They showed it to me as if you know, do
you discuss and I go, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
My god, yeah, I follow him. I follow him And
all my followers were laughing because they said, you know
this fan. Meanwhile, like I'm like obsessed with it. I'm
like a super fan, and you know, it creates so
much stuff for you have.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Blown up on social media in what the past six months?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
What do you think was the defining moment that made
you kind of blow up?

Speaker 4 (01:54):
The TikTok ban. Yeah, just moving. I started maybe I
did one or two videos in TikTok in December, and
then the TikTok band made me go to Instagram. And
then Marisol Patton she saw my montage of the Real
Housewives staying at the White Lotus and she wrote, haha,
period do me? And then I did. Marissol said, ha
ha do me, and then I did her and then

(02:17):
and it was very good and everyone liked it. And
then from there she was just I think she started
like reposting it a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Maso popped your chair.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I would say, marissol, pop my cherry.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Wow, we love Maris Ma And you're about to do
a tour or something.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yes, I'm doing a show with her next week, next Wednesday.
Where's the show in Miami? I'm doing a show with
Marason Alexia. Can you believe? Like the more I talk
about it, the crazier, Like, I don't know, it's just weird,
you know. And I think you both can relate to
it because you're both hard workers and hustlers. I spend
so much time just working that I don't actually sit
and think like wow, today I'm at on Tamra and
Teddy's podcast. I just like show up and I just

(02:54):
do it because we have no other choice. And then
when I get home, I have an acting coaching I
have to do on Zoom.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
So it's going.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
To say it's like, yeah, this TikTok and stuff. This
is secondary, Like you.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Have a career, Yeah, I was an actor for I mean,
I am an actor, but a professional actor for.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
A long time, and then to the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Since the nineteen hundreds, and then you know, I was
on a TV show and I was up for a
bunch of big things, and then kind of it all
slowed down, you know, the pandemic and then the strike
and the fires and maybe some own personal development stuff
that I just wasn't ready to move out of Miami.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
When did you start getting really active on social media
about housewives.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Six months ago? Oh? Really, I wear just being a
selfish Like here's a picture of me and of the restaurant,
here's a picture of me on vacation, Like no content creating,
just like pictures of my life.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Will you be my coach, my acting coach. If I
want to come back next season as an actress.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Please advise her not to.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, we've all seen how much of a singer
I am.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, I said to Vicky when we were I was
on her podcast, I said, tamer would be good because
she's a virgo and they're good at making money, so
she'll listen to everything I tell her.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
And they're crazy, and.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
They're crazy, and actually, you have to be able. You
have to be able to suspend into disbelief. So I
think you'd be great. What's that are you?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'm cancer?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh, very emotional. That's good, introspective. See all great qualities.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Makes sense. That's what we work together.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, exactly, it's perfect. Actually, that is a good balance.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
It is a very good balance.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I know.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So you're originally from Miami, born.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
And raised in Miami. That's why I have the Alexi
and Marisol accent down because you know from Miami. You know,
we have to talk a certain way and there's a
certain thing and Bro, it's absolutely you know, if you're
not from there, you don't get it. So you know,
it's just that it is what it is, and at
the end of the day, that's how we are. So
you know, I don't know what you tell me.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm so happy you said the bro.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Absolutely, and then it's the Memphor Fall Bro, Are you
kidding me? I mean this is like it's like, no,
forget it. I mean, I just can't. I can't. I
know boil, I can't. I can't eat a cocky. I can't.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Is Miami because you're from Miami? Is that your favorite franchise?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, it's it's Meredith Marks. Quite frankly yes, I do
love my Meredith Marx and Mary Cosby.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh how could anybody Mary Cosmic?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Well, I was on the Marry couse be trained when
people were not on it, like her first season. Yeah,
some people are like she's crazy. I'm like, she's crazy
as a fox, and I trust her. I love her
to do my taxes. I'm into I'm into ther a
lot of think she want was so. I think Miami
and Saltake City are my favorites because they're the most comical. Like,
I just like to laugh.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Have you ever done stand up?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Would you?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
The idea of like, my sole purpose being to make
people laugh for an hour and a half is not
necessarily what I think I would want to do. I
like storytelling, which I guess you know stand up comedy
of storytelling.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But gus together, I can see about the improv.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
All right, well maybe maybe I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah. Do you listen to the two Teas? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I do. I have, And I love it when you
have the guest people to take over your spot when
you can't comment on things. I think the whole thing
is genius.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh how we rotate in and out?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I love it. I think it's really smart.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Thank you. It's really fun. So what is your I know,
your favorite two you just said we're Salt Lake City
and Miami, But what it's your ultimate favorite season? Franchise? Everything?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
That's really hard? I mean O. G Roney was really
really special. Did you guys watch that? Were you? Yes?
Because I forget which housewives actually enjoyed like watching it
even when they weren't filming or whatever, you know, But
I love og Roney, so I would say the Bethany
seasons when she came back were really amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Do you think that they should bring back some of
the originals when they reboot it?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think at this point it's too far gone. I
think they should do something else. I think they should
do a different O. G Roney thing.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I don't think you can ride with the Ultimate Girls
Trip and I thought it was great, right, but why
why'd they pause it?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah? I don't know, but I don't think. I think
at this point now like I don't want to see
Derinda and Aaron.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
So that's the problems. How do you who do you
mix together with the originals that it's.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Going to make sense.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
The closest would be Carol Radzuwell, I think would be like,
because she's kind of cool on downtown and like she's getting.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
A lot of like traction.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, something made and all those The makeup with Andy
was epic and then she came back like it was
like watching you know, the movie star come back to
her little town. Yeah, like, hi everyone, you know, Benton, Illinois,
Good to see you.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do you think that Andy will ever make up with Bethany, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I think Andy seems like at the end of the day,
he's able to put no, you don't think so.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't think so. I think he could. I think
Andy's fine as long as you can give a true apology.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah. I think if you genuinely looked at him and
said I was out of line or I was what
blank blank blank blank blank, I think he could say fine,
I accepted. Maybe we're not going to lunch, but.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, maybe we're not.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
If he can remain friends with Jeff Lewis, yeah, oh
my god.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I mean I'm amazed at how they have have been
able to do that because.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
They're both Lewis's TV Gold, Yeah he is, He's TV Gold.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
And do you think Andy's able to look past her
and things of your TV Gold?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Well, Bethany is TV gold lover hater. I mean there's
even leu Ane had to say it at the show.
I just hosted leu Aanne conversation at her show this weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh you did.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, that was so much fun. And leu Ane was like,
you know, love her hater, but sorry, you know she's
reality television entertainment. She's great.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Better have you been to LUN's show? You've gone to
Luanne's show.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I've never seen the Cabaret, but she has a new
show called the Luniverse, so I.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Hosted her in conversations going to be in l A.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, I know. I'm super excited.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
We missed it.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I think it was a weekend.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
It was this weekend. Yeah, we missed it.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I wanted to go this Friday and Saturday's late now
there's no Flagg in it.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But we don't because I have give you the show
later today.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
When we go to lunch. I'll do the whole Luane
show for you. I have a perfect memory and tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
All the anega okay, okay, perfect, but.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's not nearly as good as of course.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
On Vickie's podcast, you stated you think Tamara carries o
C do you stand by.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
This one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Please tell me why?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Please? Now, as I sip my coffee.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
That's a good jif or that's a good me and Tama, Well,
I think you carry the show because you're the most
aware of how the show works. So like and some
people have had come that right like that, you produce it.
I don't necessarily see you as producing it. I forget
what podcast I said this on. Oh I think I
might have been betches, but I said, every group has
a person who is sort of a leader. Yeah, and

(09:10):
like in real life, not on the show. Like in
real life, we have people that move things along, that
that mediate that go you need to get over this
and you need to talk to Kendall and figure this out.
People do that. So you do that in the group,
You sort of you kind of make everything work. And
on top of that, you're just entertaining. You're just really entertaining.
And also I think you don't get credit enough for

(09:30):
how funny you are. Oh yeah, I think you're actually
really funny. Sorry, sorry, I know it's Patty.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I am funny, I heather to brow in that scene, I.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Am funny, hewey. Can I also talk about that that
pissed me off because poor Heather. Listen, as much as
Heather drives me bonkers, I like her for the show,
I don't really know the season. She was kind of
a non starter for me. You could have taken her
completely and I wouldn't even know and I would dislike her.
I like, actually, no, let me take that back. Her
impact with advocating for LGBTQ plus and all of that

(10:02):
was amazing and that I said, let me take that back.
But in terms of actual storyline other than that, which
was impactful. But with the ladies, I mean, she kind
of but she's rich. But but Homegirl needs to show
up and justify that check because I'm like, I mean,
she wasn't on your side, and she wasn't not on
your side, so I'm like, Okay, that was boring to me.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
But I don't think they let Tamra and Heather be
together enough. Every single group event they split you guys,
yeah we were split up. So then it's like, you're
that's what you're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
But she also behind her back either wasn't on your side,
but then she kind of was like engaging and like.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it wasn't the whole cast like that this season.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, but she's the one who's the closest to you,
I know, So that just didn't make sense to me. Like,
if I were you, I would be upset that Heather
either like girl, either talk shit about me and like
you're actually not my friend or like this weird like
fence wrangling.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Just rob me the way because she gets shit for
being my friend.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
But then she shouldn't be your friend. And if she can,
woheardly say give me the shit and I'll take it
because that's my friend. But the interest the people that
are hard to defend, and I say, listen, I don't know.
I am just in aries. I don't know. I'm like
balls to the wall. You're either my friend or you're not.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, at the end of the day, we're filming a
reality show together and she has to call me out
on the things, and I want people to call me
out on the phone.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I agree, No, I agree. I don't think that she
should be blind. I don't necessarily believe in blind loyalty
your allegiance. But there's no.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Shit, we're not going to get along come again.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
No, but you know, I definitely think you know, calling
people out and saying I don't agree with tam Or.
I don't think the way that she did this was right.
But I have the friendship to be able to tell her.
I don't know there was something about it.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
She does have the friendship, so then maybe.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
She's got bad at it. You're doing a good job
of being Heather's friend right now, so that's good. You're
really taking care of her right now. She'll be happy
she sees this place.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I take care about her. I mean, I've known her
for so many years. She was in my wedding. And
the problem is is when you do have like a
true friend on this show, it's difficult. It's difficult because
you can't have this blind like.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
No, you can't. Yeah, I agree, because you.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Know, if you can't call them out, then it's all fake.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
But you have to be able to call them out,
and then you have to also be able to receive
the information, take it back, and then move on, which
I think some franchise A franchises are great at doing
moving on. Salt Lake City, oh C, is not one
of them.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
No, Salt Lake City has three conflicts in one episode.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, like it's just constant and the next next time
and having fun and That's what I think works when
you're holding grudges for two years or in this case,
fifteen years, like no.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
One wants to hear it. We will the number again,
fifteen fifteen.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like you have to move forward. You have to have
these fights, conflict resolution, conflict resolution. But if it's like
when you start icing people out, that's not good.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah. Do you watch all the franchises?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Most of them?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Did you watch the Potomac? Which one do you hate?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I watched Potomac In and Out because I was late
to the game, but I have seen Potomac. Karen Huger
is amazing.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
What about Wendy, I'm just shook.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I'm that's like the last housewife I was expecting. She's
literally the most like decorated with degrees. I mean, and
it's funny because I didn't go to college, you know,
like I did.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
We Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
It's funny because we are so successful. What do you mean?
But that's the comical thing is that going to school
doesn't mean that you're a certain kind of person. I mean,
there's people that are masters and have doctorates and they're
just as capable and fallible as the rest of us, right.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, well, it all falls down on your character.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, exactly, characters not.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
All the degree in the world that your morals and
your character, if they're not aligned, it.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Has nothing to exactly. I have a lot of flaws,
but I just don't tend to stealing. It's not one
of my just not one of my things, you know
what I'm saying, And she chose one. It's pretty I
mean I feel for her because to have to get
to that point, you must be deeply insecure about perception
and image, you know. And it's the acting coaching me
that always has to look at characters from like, well,
why did they do this? Which is why you enjoy

(14:01):
watching the house. Yeah. The magical question I always ask
my actors is find your character is doing something you
would never do, But what could make you do it?
What could make you do that thing?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And what could make you actually believe that you could
get away with him? Yeah, that's the thing that's I mean,
we have to I'm going to say this innocent to
proven guilty. But I listened to Andy saying, you know
how sad he was about this and how yeah about
Wendy and how he just couldn't believe it. Yeah, And
I feel like so many of us feel the same

(14:33):
exact way, because Wendy has always been the one that's
kind of has the you know, she's holding her own
always and holds people to a certain level, almost to
a fault.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, it was. There were moments where it was unbecoming
of her.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yes, I would, well, maybe if she goes to jail,
maybe Emily can get her out with her Innocence Project.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, oh, girls, there for that long.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I want Emily to give some of her Innocence Project
beliefs to Katie. Yeah, or how about me for someone
who really I mean, listen, two things can be true
at the same time. Emily can be doing an amazing
thing with the Innocence Project, but for her to say
that cops don't lie to Katie last season was pretty comical. Yeah,
so cops don't lie, but you spent a whole season
talking about how some people are wrongfully in prison. Like

(15:22):
just I think I'm allowed to say that I don't
work on the show. I'm just a comedian actor.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
And you know you're allowed to say whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Thank you. I appreciate that. As the house housewive psychic
medium that I have given. That's the nickname I've given
myself for psychic medium or chatnel the housewives. I think
I'm allowed to, you know, because there's so many Bravo
content creators that want to be called like the housewive
whisper or the housewive reporter. I want to be in
my own lane. I'm the psychic. There's only two psychics
in the housewife world. Alison Dubois Oh, Scott Cruz. Yeah,

(15:50):
so then I'm not the psychic. I'm in the medium,
my channel whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Maybe you're the.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Intuitive and you're the intuitive from the intuition of the house.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Have you always been into You told me you're into it?
Have you always been like that?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
What kind of vibes are you getting from us right now?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Great? Hardworking, hot love that.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Exactly that we're not doing is scissoring.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
The day is it's still that's still early.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
We never got to talk about this because you didn't.
You weren't doing the pod.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
That because I did. I was at the reunion.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, you're at the reunion.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
So can we talk about the potential scissoring that went
on between Adrian.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Ca It pisses me off, the sad there's multiple.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ways I just don't think cissoring touch.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Just looking you not have a vagina? Do you not
have fingers? Do you also?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
But look, the bottom line is Adriana, who I like
a lot. I think she's great on the show. I
like her. I think she's funny. I you know, I
want her in Marisota somehow makeup. That'll probably never happen,
but I want that to be. I want them to
sort of be like, Yo, we've known each other for
almost twenty years, can we just like come on, let's
just try.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's like me and VICKI yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
And I'm very sentimental that way with time, So I'm like,
I hope that somehow they can get there, you know whatever.
But point being, or were saying, Adhd, I don't like
this squirrel scissoring. Adriana as much as I like her,
was reductive in that moment, and she reduced.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Like, don't use words so she would just she just tried.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
To like bring like girl on girl sex down to
like basically nothing. If there's no dick involved, then it's
not real. Number one, that's kind of offensive to women
that women.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think that it's just her lack of knowledge, because.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Nobody no she's very smart, and she's very cultured, and
she's very educated. She's education a historian of the show.
Every clip is her talking about culture from the eighteen hundreds,
so she's completely aware that sex can be powerful and
meaningful and intimate. With two women, she just wanted to say, whatever,
there's no deck was the.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Other women I thought that really dove in and were like, oh, well,
did you scissor did you get the rest of the
past as nobody?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Mean it can be.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
According to Darren, who is Andy's assistant for years, she
had a podcast saying scissoring is not a thing.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I don't think it's a big thing. I don't think
I don't try it. I think it's the segment I'm
ignoring you. I have scissored a male male.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I mean, people do all kinds of things. And the
women did laugh at it, which I mean it was
comical and hilarious, but there were moments where it was
a little like, yeah, it got a little cringe.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
It got a little cringe, It got a little like uneducated.
What are your thoughts on Julia bringing this up?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Damn?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
What was her motivation behind it?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I think, God, do you want me to be honest.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, no, I want you to lie.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Okay, well your cast does it all the time, so
I don't know what you used to. Sorry, you were
sarcastic with me earlier. So now okay the lean back
of lean forwards. And you know, you want to know
how I discovered it, ADHD. I was at dinner with
some friends and we're big fans of yours, and we
were talking about something months ago, long before I was,

(19:09):
you know, popping off in this way, and I just said, O,
because you know my tamora and they went, oh, my god,
you just did. I was like, you're right, I did.
I just I just I just did a tamera. I
didn't even realize it because I observed people so much.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I know what I've been told. This is years ago
when somebody else was imitating people that I was just
so vanilla.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
There was nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Is they're wrong?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
That is I could that's not true for hours.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, no, you've got but it's mainly the thing here.
And then you sometimes have the little.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Film Amy Phillips would say that I would say, I'm pissed.
I'm pissed.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm pissed.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's the only thing that.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
The forward. But Julia, to be really honest, I think,
in my personal opinion, I think she probably wanted another
storyline for next season, a little job security.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Because I saw something that said that now that Mark Now,
I mean this is I saw something online that nothing mortician. Yeah,
after that that Martina was filing for divorce or something. Yeah,
did you see that? I saw that.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I don't know that I believe it.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't know that I believe it came.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
But I mean I think I wouldn't be surprised. I
think it's pretty I think it's pretty shocking to go
on TV and be that and Adriana laid her ass out.
She sliced and diceer like a lunchible. I mean she
really did. Adriana was just like a lunchible. Wham bam,
think you ma'am in a doggie bag on home. I
mean I could not believe it. The cop and the thing.

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I mean, she really was.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Let's not forget about the coffee pot.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
And the coffee machine.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I want to know what kind of coffee machine?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
A cuig?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
What was Let's hope it's like a little bit higher
than a cureg. But you know what, I express cost thousands.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Of exactly the specificity of a Haitian mortician with a
coffee machine. Get by the way, who's she fucking? They
can't they can't do and morticians do great. Everybody's dying
these days. It's like, I mean, the world's falling apart.
And then I'm like, come on, Haitian mortician. You know,
she chose the right one.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Lost me on that one though, the Haitian mortician, Well,
she came on the pod, Adriana did she did?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yes, she just wasn't there. I was at the union.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I was about to say, because you guys like each
other or you don't or what.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I really didn't know her very well. Then we did
watch What Happens Live Together, and I.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Really like to get along that.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, we got along, and we've been texting back and
forth and I get along with ninety nine percent of
the housewives.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
The one percent is Cheriso, who are on a panel
with Bramo con So, yeah, should be great.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's really funny. Why what's the what's the theme of
that panel?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Best friends?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Okay, so you too?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
And then who's who's Teresa's dolorous?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
No, think about it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Alexia Alexil.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I guess they're good friends.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Well, I guess I have no that makes sense. And
like the people have called each other like the that
Alexia is the Miami Teresa and that Teresa is the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Do you remember earlier on the season when Alexia was
dealing with the divorce news?

Speaker 4 (22:27):
There, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Close, they're close, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I mean, Alexi's best friend is equivocally Marisol. But that's
an odd Okay, Okay, I think just doing it, Okay,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah. Can we talk about Stacy's breath?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean I prefer petty. I mean, I'm I'm divided.
Some people were saying that it's really you know, mean
of the ladies to do that, But I'd rather than
make fun of make fun of her breath than something
really udious. Well that's just yeah that we got to
keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Imberwhen Camille did that on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
With Vander Pump, yes, I was so sad because I
had this vision. Are you how are you in vander Pump?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean we don't hang out, okay.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
But you're a neutral Yeah, okay, I'm a big vander
Pump fan. I enjoy her on the show. I think
she's fun to watch. I think she's I think she's
a great housewife. I was really sad to hear that
she smelled because I really because she looks like she
smells great. She looks like she smells like rich luxury.
So like to me, when I think, what housewife do.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
You think smells when you look at them?

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, I'm not going to answer that. I'm not going
to answer that.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Give me initials.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
No, no, no, no, no no, because there's something that I've been like, well,
she looks like maybe a hair brush, could you know,
do her good or you know so? But no, no,
vander Pam roller roller roller. Maybe some people look No,
I don't know. I mean the thing is that, now
that I don't drink anymore, the one scent that is
like is like the vodka breath when people have like
two or three cocktails, the juiciness of vodka. So I

(23:55):
can see certain house.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Because you can kind of smell their inside.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
It comes. It comes from the battle. I swear, It's
like it does.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
What you're like?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Hold on Mary who said that she was so certain
people like the cocktail breath.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
You know what I'm talking about were like that then
after the vodka no, even in that moment.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Then I like to tell you something. I had to
sit next to somebody at the reunion. I will not
name them, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Once breath was.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Like, I was like leaning more towards Andy and leaning
because I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Going to barf and.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Me too, Yeah, so I can't.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
She's also sensitive to noises like no, I actually like
I yeah, if I'm like sniffy, or I'm like itching
something on the pod, or if I swallow breathe too loud, yeah,
or if I like have an indigestion at all, and
I'm like, she has heartburn all the time. I always
have heartburn.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
To be like, do you have heartburn?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Stop it, don't swallow so loud. It's great at dinner
time we have to turn too much. We have to
actually turn music on when we eat dinner at home.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Because because the sound of her chewing.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Box, nor husband, my husband, thankfully, Eddie or my daughter
whoever smile.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
What have you seen my Eddie impersonation? No?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh my god, You've never seen my any impersonation. I
did the real husbands at White Lotus and I've yeah,
I've got Eddie smile down you ready.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, you know what that's that's that's his fake smile smile.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's his picture smile.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And then when he smiles regularly.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
He actually opens it up giant camera because he's really
a supportive husband because he does not want to be there.
He's there for you to support you, to hold down
the four babe, whatever you need, I got you. And
I saw that in the episode last night where they
were like, Eddie just lets his wife yeah, because Eddie,
Eddie knows this is not like I have a real
life ideal. This is not my job. Validation from this

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saying it was perfect though it was. It was to me,
it was a perfect thing to say because it was like,
there's two kinds of men. Men that are going to
do what the other guy's doing and men that are
gonna do it Eddie's doing.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Eddie would be Eddie would be more active on the
show if there were guys on the show that he
could hang with. He likes Terry, he likes Shane.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
We don't really know much about Travis.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
We hardly ever se.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Travis seems seems very he's very.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Very nice, but it's not like he's got that, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I mean, he loves joe Gorga.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
So if we went to Jersey, he would be fit
right in more active.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
The Eds do a podcast are well, he's still your husband.
I don't even know. I always am like our husband, well,
our husband, my husband Ish does a podcast with Eddie
and they they just did.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
They interviewed for wife Swap in our house. Our offices
are right next to each other, and he was they
were laughing. He was laughing hysterically the entire time. And
I'm like, it's Joey Gorga.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
He's a fun guy. I mean, I have I have
conflicting opinions on the men on the shows. Sometimes I
think it works really well and other times I'm like,
I could maybe live without this a little bit. Man,
I don't have I don't really I don't really want
men on TV.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I'm an actor, but I don't want men on TV.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I don't want housewives. I don't want to watch I've
never seen an episode of Anerbump rules. I have no
desire to know the lore of Jack's or the tom Thoms.
I'm sorry, I doubt they're fans of mine. So I
doubt they're gonna be watching this. I don't care. I
don't want to see God, Like, I don't care about.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Those guys that get too involved in housewives. And I'm
removing Jersey from this because they because.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
They're all really good friends, they're like little bitches.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, it's not enjoyable for me, and I don't want
to watch men yell at women. I don't want to
watch it just it creates a dynamic that's so bizarre
to me, and it's not enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
But it's all about me. She's talking about me, So
I have to get in there and I have to
say something.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Like, no, you have to let this go because you're
not actually obligated to be on the show.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And getting paid.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, okay, I didn't know that. Then ends up get paid. No,
she's homegirls getting paid. But he's yeah, yeah, I'm hoping
maybe if he really continues, they'll give him a check.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, am my straightest stick up. But honestly, like if Eddie,
if somebody is talking about Eddie, will they have And
he's like, do you think I give a ship?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Like I think it's all about secure, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Are He's not concerned about trying to sway people's opinions
because he doesn't give it.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
He doesn't give a ship.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah. I like it. Yeah, and which is why I
think your relationship works. Yes, because you are a fighter.
You're going to go to you know, to quote lista barle,
You're gonna go the fucking distance. And he's like and
he's good. He's like, I don't need to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh, that's so exciting that you just did a little
salt lake because I was about to transition into committy
right now. Yeah, we're connecting to the same page here.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
So I turned you into a hugger.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I mean I did at least fifteen seconds of a hut.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
I know, it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's a big deal for I know.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I'm taking it.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, we pretty much have had sex.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Scissor, we're dad and all you have to do is
give me a cup of coffee. You don't even have
to give me a coffee machine. Such a sheep day,
not even starbus, I know. But yeah, I gotta start
up in my rain.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I am starting this rumor exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I have another rumor. I'm starting that you, me and
Eddie had a threesome and I'm gonna be the Kiki
of next season. But this ship, I'm stupid. Why didn't
I get that spot? I want to be? And I'm
gonna I'm gonna create accounts. They're gonna be called, I
don't know, housewives, person seven ninety four.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
You're gonna create a face.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I'm gonna create a fake account of spread rumors about me,
you and Eddie scissoring, and then it's gonna go virals me,
all three of us, all three.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It was a triple scissor.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Triple scissors. I don't care what it could be a
it could be a game of twister. I don't really
give a shame. But I'm gonna photoshop the pictures of
usace yes, and you're gonna and you're gonna sing while
we're doing it. You're gonna moan and sing because apparently
that's the thing. Yeah see, And I'm going to make
this a thing because I'm like, Kiki got all this press.
I'm like, I'm going to be the next blogger. I

(30:06):
don't blog anything, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I love that we can't say blogger. Okay, creator content creation, I.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hain't even being called that because I'm like, I don't
even know I'm just an actor who is doing funny shit.
I'm a bad influence. You can't call me an influencer,
but you're not.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Out there like recapping the show.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
I don't comment on anything like on podcasts. I'm very
even today. I'm like, I'll give a little bit, but
I don't want to be known or seen as someone
who's in that sphere because I genuinely love the Housewives,
and sometimes the world of blogging gets so or opinion giving.
It's just mean. It's just it is mean, and yeah,
I don't want to what.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Are your thoughts on Housewives? Across the board, all the franchises,
there's so much blogger information.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
I mean, I think I don't think it's fun for
the show. I don't I mean I think I don't
think it. I don't think it does the thing. It
doesn't help. In my opinion as an audience member, it
makes it too. It takes me outside of the world,
and I like being in the world with you ladies.
I like being a fly on the wall in those conversations.
Once we start talking about Instagram, I feel like, well,
now I'm you're in my living room, and I don't

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want to be in my living room. I want to
be in your house in Orange County. I want to
be on your vacation in Amsterdam. So to me, it's
like it kind of just take it makes it a
little less about you ladies and more about the world
that we're in.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
But don't you see, like now, bloggers are trying to
insert themselves, hoping that they can get on the show.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Like me with the affairs.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
So yeah, let's say, like, you know, a Housewives talking
to a blogger, just shooting the shit with the blogger,
and then that blogger goes and tells somebody else to
try to get on the show. I mean, it's just
like a nasty cess poll at this point.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
But if you really think about it, the housewives community
for a long time has wanted to be versions of Housewives.
Like That's why I think when people say why do
you think the housefave community is so mean online? Because
I think they want to be unfiltered and bitchy and
not have any consequences. So they write all these means
because it's like, well, this is the world you guys
are in, so why can't I be a part of
it too?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I want to be a housewife. I want to throw
a glass. I want to say, right so, I think
the bloggers, there's a part of them. Look, when I
had dinner with Alexia, someone commented, I don't get many
mean comments, thank god. But someone wrote Miguel's face that
you'll never be a housewife. And I'm like, that's the funniest,
weirdest thing, because I'm like, I'm an actor. I'm a
trained actor of been doing theater since I was eleven.
I'm obsessed with acting and television like what so Like

(32:26):
that was their take, but that's a projection. It's not
about me. I'm impersonating them, but they're thinking, yeah, you
want to be living like No, I'm good. I'm a man.
I like living like a man. I have no desire
to be a woman or to be on TV. If
someone offered me a reality TV show right now, I'd
say no. But people project a lot of their own
shit onto other people.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I was going to ask you, would you ever do
a reality team?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
No? I don't think so. I think it would. It
would delegitimize me as an actor. And I'm a very
good actor. And I don't say that cocky. I say
I've been doing my whole life. Yeah, I can't do
your taxis, I can't play football, I can't help you
with math. But I can teach acting and I can act,
and that's all I want to do. So if even
if provokay with me, and I'm also crazy as fuck,
I have a crazy mouth, and I would say crazy

(33:05):
ship and I would, I would and I would be
great reality TV because once I get going, there is
no there's no stop in me and I can. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure I would create some iconic moments,
but I wouldn't be proud of it because I you know,
I'm trying to be a better person.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I wanted to take acting classes. I know, where where
do you teach?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Is it like I teach at a studio, but I
teach privately as well? Like contact me privately because I'm
a private acting.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Is it like you It's like you're like like you
go to people's houses or do you.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Work out of a zoom?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I work at an establishment Zack Barnett Studios in La.
I do group classes and then I teach privately. So
if you just want to do private classes or coaching,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Asking for the audience, thank you. I want to.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Work with me. Yeah, because what I'd rather Tamor is
hook me up with a producer, you know, and get
me an audition for a show because I know you
know people, Oh we actually might That's what I need.
I just want to go back to acting TV. That's
all I want. I was on a TV show, Are
you really but Welcome to the Orange County.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Would you got a horseshow?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Opening of the horse show? Welcome to the Orange County
Horse Show. My name is migul Luciana. The best one
for my camera judge and Teddy Mellon camp here on
to teas in a pod. That's that's my that's.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
We need impersonations. I need Dolores.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Dolores I don't do that much, but I did her
once where it's a little bit of like I can't
get her voice down, but she's got I do the
there's like a facial expression I can do.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Okay, Can I tell you what she see it? Her
advice to me when I went into the reunion was
they say anything, you tell.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Them to go suck a dick That's what you do.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
You tell them go suck a dick off. Yeah, And
I I'm like, yep, tolors.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's what I'm going to do. Dick suck a dick.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
But you're changing. You can't be saying that, girl, can
you do Erica Jane? I used to do a little
bit of Erica Jane all these crazy bitches. I was
a little bit of my Erica Jane, but she's kind
of harder because she doesn't have that many facial expressions
or you know, mannerisms.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So probably impossible to do me.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
No, this is you right here. You look just straight
ahead and you just talk. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I was, and I was very monetiz.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
I was refreshing my memory on you on the show.
So I watched it last night and you were like
you just you look at the person and you just
talk to them. It was pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I was like, wow, is that not very animated?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, you're not, but there is still something to impersonate
with it. It's just you're here and you just say
the words, and there's sometimes some choppiness in the words. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it came to me just in that moment. So that's
the thing is that sometimes so I don't really study people,
but in moments when I'm channeling them, I will do

(36:00):
physical mannerisms that I didn't even realize they did. Like
with Alexia, she does the shirt. I didn't realize it
until after I filmed it. People were like, you got
Alexia's shirt.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I was like, what about Kyle's. No.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
The thing my favorite thing about Coryo is she's always
like playing with her lips and then sometimes when she's mad,
she doesn't underby.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like as oh she does.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Have you noticed that's teddy?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean like, but what I noticed most is like
a shoulder socket.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, I know she's wrapped up.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Can you give me any tea on the next season,
because I've been, I've been. Beverly Hills has lost me
the past couple of seasons.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I have to say, I've heard it's it's back. Really
start has a slow start, but then it comes with
that hot.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
That's what they did, like your seasons. The seasons of
vander Pump they were slow for three fourths of it
and then all of a sudden, the last three episodes
it's crazy town.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
So I think I think it's gonna be crazy town.
I don't know. There's a lot of news.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
You're on it. No, you don't make any appearances.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
No, she was going through the thick of it when
they were while they were filming, I was in the hospital.
I didn't even watch this past sea.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Sure, you were in the hospital when I started filming,
and then when they started filming, you started with your
amutal theraprapy which made you really, really sick. Yeah, so
you did go to Kyle's daughter's wedding.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I did. I did one I did one thing, okay,
but I wouldn't say and then she got cofed. We
have no idea if one thing has to do with
the don't leave your house, I know the way.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
So Beverly Hills is back, supposedly, that's the word on
the street.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I'm curious. I want to see the newbies. How many
well Rachel though who She's already.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Been on Rally TV, so I feel like she's gonna
get it. I don't know, I'm expecting it.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
But you know what, when you're like the you know
what loss series? Sorry, when I say you know what,
it's the Ramona that comes out, you know what? The
thing about when you're the star of your show masculine
or I know you know what? Right the thing is
when you're playing when you go for Ramona, I have
to shift back into like, Okay, remember with the thing
with Rachel Zoe is that she was the star of
her own world. It's different when you're like the queen

(38:08):
of your castle, like vander Pump on vander Pump Rules,
ain't nobody here there. So when you're having to play
with people that aren't playing fair and they don't play
by your rules, it's a different world.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Sometimes you play them up.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
But I don't think Beverly Hills gets very messy, so
I don't think she should be very I mean, you
girls were tame. The one that got the messiest was Renna,
and Renda got a lot of flack.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Forlord because I miss her and the show has never
been the same since she's been gone out.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
I had a complicated relationship with Renna. I I really
enjoy ren on TV, so I like watching her. I
thought with that cast it almost mads. She just looked
like such a villain because no one else was. And
that's what I've said, when you've got one person on
a show that is working really hard to move things along,
you look fucking crazy. Yep, So you look fucking crazy
on your.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Show because no one else is crazy.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
You know, because no one else is doing that kind
of proactive moving of storylines.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
So throw salt, like I get.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah in New York City, and the ogs would have
been fine because they're all moving. So when one person
is moving really quickly and moving things along and everyone
else's pantygate lasted a very long time, you see what
I'm saying. So it's like the panty gate of it all,
the dog in this of it all. Right, So with Rinna,
Renna looked like a super villain because she was super transparent.

(39:23):
Real housives, in my opinion, is like a social experiment.
What would you do if you could say what was
on your mind? And social cues be damned, manners be damned,
maybe friendship be damned. Just kind of like it's a
show where we want to see you thinking out loud,
and Renna thought out loud, and it looked diabolical because
she was the only one thinking out loud. Kyle would
kind of try with like let's be honest and transparent,
but it just didn't work. It just didn't feel like

(39:45):
because I think.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
The hard thing about Beverly Hills, and it's when I
watch all the franchises now, it's that they are giving
the appearance of having so much. Yeah that then they
rest on their laurels a little bit. And I think
that when you get down to it, like Salt Lake City,
they're just going for it. Yeah, they're going for it.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
It don't even give a shit.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
It don't give a shit.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Hold on, did you see that the other day? After
the big fight that we saw on TV, then Brittany
posts all these videos of them out together, like laughing,
having fun. So people are like, is this fake?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
But no, but I think that's I was looking through
those comments and I was like, you guys, you have
to understand, like these people in real friendships, sometimes you
do fight and get over it right, and then in
other times it's like, well they also have huh or
you don't write, and then other times it's like, well,
you are making a TV show together. It would behove
all of you to be able to figure it out
because it's not fun for you. You won't keep your job

(40:45):
if you can't move past it.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, holding grudges for two years or fifteen years or
one year, you got to move on or you got
to get off.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, move on or get off. It's exactly right. And
I also think that's the part of the magic of SALTI.
It is that they do like each other. It wouldn't
be as fun when you don't. I wouldn't enjoy it
if I thought that they all hated each other. I'll
tell you the thing about Derrei and I was again
rewatching your show Deurreit and Kyle. Their fallout wasn't sad
to me because I never thought they even liked each other. Sorry,
I mean, that's my opinion is these two women do

(41:16):
not like each other. They don't really quite frankly the
fuck about each other. And they're both on this show
and they're both like, let's just be good, smart, kind
women and not go there. And then once they had
to go there, good I didn't like it to begin with.
So because when Kyle and Derry finally went at it
last year with those fingers, that was fifteen years fuck out.
It was that it looked like I've been wanting to

(41:39):
say this shit to you for a long time and
I've been playing nice, but now you're gonna get both
of them. It was like years worth.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
So I was like, these women don't really like each other.
Can you do Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
I used to do but I do a version of
because you know has like you know, several different iterations.
So I do the I do the part of her, well,
she's absolutely gobsmacked. Whatever's happening to you?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
What about Jaggie? Jaggie, that's what she says about her son,
jag He's such.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Cute and Bibey. Absolutely, and this is the only version
of debate that I do. But I need to work
on the version of her where she's ripping you a
new one. But the absolutely Kyle, Kyle, huh, I have
to tell you. I have to tell you. I mean.
But so there's the thing of her here, and then
there's a time in the part of her that's like

(42:42):
the back roads of Connecticut where she's like yes, and
I'm like, I'm like, she was raised in the outhouse
of Connecticut and I'm like, what the hell? And by
the way, I thought last season was her strongest season.
I thought she was really great.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Last she actually took rent a spot at that point, Yeah,
I felt.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
But do you think she's going to come in this
season too hot? Then?

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Because sometimes they want to keep up that fame and
that glory. Well, her and Kyle sort of buried a hatchet.
I don't know if it was. They buried the hatchet,
which is we don't fucking like each other, but they
buried the We can just let this little issue go
right now. I think she might. I think she might
try to keep the peace, but she lands herself in
hot water all the time because she is naturally opinionated.

(43:25):
Like she really is a good housewife that way, because
she has she has opinions. She's no shrinking violet.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, she has opinions. And she also doesn't have a
huge amount of self reflection.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah. I think she has a very low input, very
low threshold for input. Yeah, so she's really not very
interested in what you have to say about her and
usually makes a good house Unfortunately, that does run its course,
like Barlow, Barlow from me at this point, I enjoy
her on the show, but at this season it's it's
wearing a little thin because I do I don't want

(43:56):
to watch people that can't listen or think, yes, that's
not really I mean having a thought process kind of
a deal breaker for me. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
it goes a long way, a little braid, it goes
a long way. So Barlow not listening to anyone is
not really working for me. So Duri put the thing
about Derita the Dery. It's kind of a chameleon. She
she has those three versions of herself, so she continues

(44:17):
to like regenerate because this season we saw a version
of her that we knew existed.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
But can we talk.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
About how many times I quit this season?

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah? I was. I wanted to ask you about that
on camera or off camera either or you know, I
think that you probably genuinely meant it, because I don't
know what you would have gained by not saying I
don't think I've never said it.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And well except for when I ran in Bali and
said you'll never see my face again, no, this season,
going into it, I was just emotionally stunted.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Yeah, you were just done.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I was just it was It had a lot to
do with a lot of things, but Teddy being sick
and just newly being diagnosed and literally like not knowing
the unknown for me is like show my brain down.
So I'm going to these scenes. I'm worried about this
one to death, crying every day.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I'm not eating. I mean I'm thriving obviously, Still.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I mean, well, you are doing great, right, I.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Said, in the hospital and was told her diagnosis is
one percent chance six to nine month survival rates. Yeah,
and however, immuna therapy is doing great things, so we
don't know. So I'm getting that information and I'm the
type that obsesses on the bad information. Yeah, Teddy's opposite.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
She it's very virgo. Virgos are very morbid people by nature.
Every virgo, I know, it focuses on the negative. They
focus on the despair. It's a very Virgo quality.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, I in my head, I would planning in her funeral,
like I'm doing very good. I'm upset. I'm on the
phone with Kyle. I mean, we're in a group text
with all her friends. We're taking turns at the hospital
with her. And then I'm holding down the podcast. And
at that time we were super swamped. There was like
five podcasts a week. Then I would you know, it's

(46:09):
just not like I sit in front of microphone.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
No, there's research.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
We have to watch the show's then I had to
go film. Then I had to get home late at night,
I had to watch the show, get up in the
morning and do it all over again. And I question
my friends on the show. You yeah, when you have
a friend that's going through this. It's been like the
best friend I've ever had, the way she treats me,
the way she talks to me, the way I can

(46:32):
rely on her, the way I can trust her. And
then I'm forced in this situation where I really found
like I got zero grace for everything that, you know,
for my emotions. Now, I understand, I'm not a very
emotional person. I don't show my emotions. Things hurt, I
shut down, completely shut down, body shuts down, don't eat,
don't sleep, nothing. And so every time something come at me,

(46:57):
it wasn't that I was running from conflict or run.
I just I couldn't. I mentally I couldn't deal with it. Yeah,
I just mentally couldn't. Let's not forget the season I
came off of.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty rough season. I mean
to no fault of you. I mean, you didn't do
yourself any favors last season. I could say gently, right, like,
you know, yeah, I mean gently, I could say that,
and I don't mean that even I just you know,
you didn't, you know, so you you came off on
a you started off on a rough foot and then
on top of it. You don't have any real friends

(47:30):
on that show. I mean, Heather is apparently, and I
understand now you explaining it to me that she's got
a lot of complicated things. But next season, if they
bring you on, you need to have a legitimate friend
you do. It just doesn't make any sense. They can't
pin you to be the villain, right. You can't get
the villain at it right. You can't show up and
act the part and then not have any contrast or
catharsist or or any side. Like. It just doesn't work.

(47:51):
It's not it's not working. It's not working, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
And I think it doesn't work for anybody. Everybody has
their side.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
And we need to see. And that's why I like
them showing you in therapy because and I forget where
I said this, but you obviously, when you react this
way and you have these large, big emotional reactions, there's
pain underneath that anger. Anger is a secondary emotion. We
all know this underneath your anger.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
As your anger first told me, when people have trauma,
the way they respond to conflict is not the same exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
So underneath your anger with all of these women is
deep sadness, deep betrayal, deep hurt. You know, so I
wanted them to show more of that because at least
it gives the audience an understanding to It's not like
Tamer wakes up angry. It's there's a there there, there's
something real that's I mean again, not to go back
to acting, but you know, characters want most of the
time three things approval, control, or security, and sometimes all

(48:46):
three and sometimes the control goes from approval sometimes, so
maybe you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Know when you're not getting any of them at that moment.
We get our needs in your life.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, and not to mention, I'm getting hit with all
these lies all season long, accusing of this and that,
and it's.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Like what am I?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
It was like me going, what am I doing?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Am I a glutton for punishment?

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Yeah? So then now where do you stand with next season?
If they said, listen, Tamra, you know you did great.
We want you know you're I think a friend, a
genuine human friend who likes you and cares about you
and wants to have fun with you, because.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
When you I would love that.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, you need a genuine human friend.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, we'll figure that out when we cross that bridge.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
I'm going to call mister Bravo.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Well, thank you so much for doing us.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Yeah this, We've got so many more things to talk about.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Can you give us a remode because you do you
know what.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
In all sincerity, you know what, I really believe that,
you know you need a friend next season, and you
know what, I'll come back and you know what, I'll
be your friend. You know I'll be a friend at
the show. You know I'm a palm betrayed. You know
I'm in the Hampton's.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But you know what, are you turtle timing?

Speaker 4 (49:47):
You know all turtle time together. You know it'll be
really great and we'll bring We'll bring Teddy. You'll be great,
great Teddy mellon Coop. Me. You'll bring Teddy mellon Coop
and you know it'll be great.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
She never calls.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
She never called anyone. She called Lisa and Lisa Jennery.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
We interviewed her early on with our podcast, and she
couldn't get Teddy's name right for the life of her.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
And she makes yeah, Lisa Jenner, I remember that was like, honey,
I don't care as long as she's calling me something.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Who was your very first impersonation honey. It was the
very first house wife impersonated.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Probably in real life, like in my life, like my
couch with my friends.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Probably Ramona.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, she's such an easy one.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah, but so many people do her wrong, like I mean,
I've seen people impersonate her.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Like and do you do Vicky?

Speaker 4 (50:37):
No. The only thing I do with Vicky is when
she when she's talking to you, and then she brings
her head down and mutters. So she's like, oh, yeah,
you weren't a very good friend to me. You know,
you weren't very good friend to me. Let me.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
You're bringing it to me friend. Did she say anything
nice about me on your podcast?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
It was lovely? She said, Well, the one thing that
she was not it wasn't not nice.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
You're going to the negative.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
No, no, she said. She said, would you say that
Tammer's carrying the show? And I said I would. I
think she's carrying the show without a doubt, like there's
no And she says, well, I don't think one person
carries the show because it's an ensemble piece. And that
wasn't not nice. I'm just saying she didn't necessarily jump
on the bandwagon of Tamers carrying the show.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Do you want her back for season twenty?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, I think she needs to come back. I think
you and her need to have a real, legitimate, no
conversations before you start the show.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
I mean it's impossible because you guys know each other.
But I wish that it was like, hey, you're getting
on the show. You're getting on the show, let's film
the next day after we tell them, so that we
just actually get to see you guys.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Being I want, like Mina Shannon, I want me and
Vicki to have that friendship.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Yeah, doesn't want anything anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
She doesn't want us to be Shannon doesn't want anything.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I saw last night's episode or the last OHC episode.
I'm like, Shannon doesn't want to be there. And it's
a shame because I thought Shannon was great television for
a really long time. I thought she was so interesting
and authentic and vulnerable. She he's bored out of her mind.
I mean even when she's talking to Archie. Archie used
to be the love of her life and she's like Archie,

(52:06):
I'm like a girl, like wake up perkop honey, like
look alive. The psychic gets she was like, does Archie
want a friend. I'm like, what's happening? Like, Shannon used
to be dynamic and interesting, and Shannon just looks like
she doesn't want to be there. So I think maybe
pausing her so she can feel the absence of a
six hundred thousand dollars check or whatever she's making. And
then she realized, oh no, wait, I like my job.

(52:27):
I want to show up read none of her professional looks.
I think one of them was kind of an iconic,
but the other ones look like she's going to lunch.
I'm like, she's going to tell she's going to lunch.
I'm like, Shannon, what happened? Yeah, I'm like, what happened
to Like again, I want real housewives that are glamorous
and opulent and dynamics. I would prefer them rich. Yeah,
I would prefer them rich.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
What are your thoughts on housewives that aren't necessarily rich
but act like they're rich and wear like FAF designer clothes.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I can get into it, Mile insurance.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
I can't get into it. I mean, you know, I
get I won't kick him out of bed for you
in a box of crackers.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I could do it.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Come over here with your Fucci bag. Then Papa the
Fucci bag is sit next to me. I could do it.
I could do it.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Oh my god, you're killing me right now.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
But you guys do so much.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Where do people find you?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Only fans? Ramona Singer two point zero Instagram, The Mcgaluciano TikTok,
Miguel Underscore Luciano Venmo Migliano exactly. I don't take anything.
Take Wendy's gift cards from Barlow, well, she probably won't
give me a Yeah, it's gonna be what exactly well

(53:45):
ruined my curls. I have to be careful about say
anthing about Barlow because I think she's I think, like
I just talking about you. Yeah, my gal Dick, and
I don't need that. I don't ruin my only fans.
I gotta keep keep the gout away.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
When you have gout, does that swell things?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Yeah? I would probably feel better. I'm like, girl, don't
knock until you tried it. What's pretty happy time see
you on Instagram? So I don't know, maybe if you
can get some exactly by the way I thought, I
am I the only one that thought that, and so
it wasn't iconic. It didn't it didn't do the thing
like I thought it was. I was like, man, no, ages,
it never lands for me. It just never has, never will.

(54:23):
He's older, okay, and she seems kind of happy with him,
and they seem like they have a good relationship and
she's living really well. Her daughter adores her, you.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Know, she's her mom.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
No, you want me to tell you something. I was
watching that episode like I'm always happy watching Salt, Like,
I'm like, god, this is like my happy time. You know,
I don't drink anymore, so I need stimulation. I'm like, okay, I.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Brought you some stimulation.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
By the way, Yes you did. You always stimulated. Oh
my god, I was hoping you would.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I did.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Oh, thank you, Oh my god, thank you. I was
literally going to text you and can I bother you
for something? So literally I was watching that episode happy,
and then.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I know it was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
I almost wanted to turn that. It almost felt like
when you're at your friend's house and your friends starts
fighting with their mom and they say some out of
pocket ship and you're like, I shouldn't be here. Hey, thanks,
miss Robinson, I'm just gonna go walk home. I was like,
I don't think I should be here.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
For this, which I like that in this you think
it helped people understand deserved better. It's kind of like
when set And brought her mom on.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Yeah. I loved it that it showed the vulnerability for
Brownin in her life. And that's where I want you
to be in therapy more. And I want you and
Vicky to hash it out and cry together on camera.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Vicky and I need to go to couple's therapy, friendship therapy.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Yes, like you and Kyle did. That was just the
episode I was watching. Whether it's like you went to
couple's therapy you did, and Rena was like, you went
to couples therapy, honey, own it? You guys own honey,
you went to a couple's therapy.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
And wait, did you a couple therapy with Kyle?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
You did? Own it? Own it?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Baby did not go to a couple's therapy. But we
loved it, Like it was just so hilarious, like that
they just tend the baby.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
You went to couple's therapy with Kyle. Just say own it, baby,
own it. I almost brought my Harry Hammling glasses to go. Well,
they did go to couples there together, go there.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Enjoyed once go to therapy together. So if you want
to call that couple's therapy, you can call it exactly.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
That was the funniest little subject.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
How do you how do you forget this?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I'm fifty eight years old. I don't know what I
had for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Be honest.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
You had a Vena multi vitamin yesterday.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, I had gruins and my coat is Tama twenty
two grun gruns, all of it.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of The
twat Seat. We appreciate you, guys, and we will talk
to you soon.