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December 29, 2025 29 mins

Salley’s love triangle is on full blast this season, so Tamra and Dolores are getting to the bottom of it. Does Salley regret going after Craig in the first place? What does she think about the narrative that Craig was only interested in Charley?

 

Plus, Salley gives us an update on her friendship with Venita. When it comes to “girl code” is Venita being hypocritical? Her relationship with JT last season tells us everything we need to know…

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi, guys, welcome back another episode of The twenty Seat.
Today we have Sally from Southern Charm. I'm super excited.
I don't think that I've ever met Sally. Have you
met her in person?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Was she a Bravo kan Yeah? I would imagine she
was in bravocan.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I just I don't know why I hear in my
head when I say Sally Sally sells Seashells by the
Sea short like just.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Because she was raised in South Carolina and then she
moved to Charleston a few years ago after landing an
impressive job in spinal robotic.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm very cool.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's very impressive. So I need to hear more about this,
and I also need to hear about Craig.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So yeah, but Sally, Okay, we'll talk. You're gonna get
a little solo one on one.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
But did you know that she was also on the Bachelor?
I do, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
She's a bachelor and she was supposed to what was
she supposed to be on something else?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
But then was it this? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Where is she? Sally?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Hey? Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're beautiful pretty like you talk. We're gonna talk, Sally and.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Sally, Sally, I think we need to sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
It's been a little brutal out there for me recently.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
But has it you mean like you mean, like in
social media world?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, tell us.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm trying to try to stay off of it. Ignore.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's the only thing you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's not going to find you unless you look for it, exactly, Sally.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I've been watching the show we recap it. I don't
know why anybody would have a problem with you.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I appreciate y'all so much.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I was watching one of y'all's clips and y'all had
my back talking about me and Benita issues. Yeah, and
it's just the way that they're you know, making it
out to be is just.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Annoying to me.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
But I also am watching it and I'm like, what
am I doing wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah? And again I do that about myself all the time?
Is it me?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Which sometimes I am like why did I say that?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But you know it is, that's okay. Just be yourself.
You can go wrong with being yourself and that's fine.
And I haven't seen anything thus far that you've done
so totally terrible. Well except for liking Red, Like, well,
I'm gonna say that maybe not nice things.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's the same.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
That is on the same page with that. And I
like him. Yeah, but you're in a you're in an
ol R all day with hot doctors. Yeah, well he's cat,
but you have a lot of you have a lot
of people around you work in a hospital.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, and and.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Like that's that was like the depth of it. In
the beginning of the summer, I thought he was hot.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I didn't know him, like, he looks great, he is.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We all thought he was hot, right, damn pro he
had a little bit of glow up after he broke
up with Yeah, right, for sure he's got it because
a lot of my friends will be like, oh, Craig
is so hot, and I'd be like, huh, really, I
never loved him like that. And then the new season
came out and I'm like, oh, he is pretty hot.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
His hair looks great. He's got a really cute house.
Really his house, he's really cute with his dog. He's
got a dog, right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is it a cat?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
No? He used he had a cat with Paige.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are you saying he has as ye, sorry, no, I mean, well,
I know you're not here on Craig. We're here to
talk about you.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know that you can't say much because you know,
the season just started. But this whole love triangle really
has me intrigued.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Oh gosh, I know.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
And it's it's the way it's playing out is frustrating
to me, just because everyone's like, oh my gosh, Sally,
he's not that into you. You're like so obsessed with him,
and I'm like, you're only seeing.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Bits and pieces, right. And also they're.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Showing me flirt with Craig, but they're not showing me
flirt with like Corey and like everyone else. I'm like,
not just going after Craig, I'm flirting with everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm saying, good, you're doing that now. I have seen
a few people say like, well, you're not a girl's
girl because Venita doesn't like him, so you shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
That is the most frustrating thing to me in the world,
because Venita comes to me with all of her secrets
and we're so close, like she trusts me, So.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You're still close, right, You're still close.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I mean, I'm frustrated with some of the things I've
seen that she's said, because I'm like, why would you
say that when you didn't feel that way really about me?
Because you know that I am a girl's girl for you,
And like it just frustrated me because last year she
was with JT No and I hated him and I

(04:59):
warned her just like she's doing with me.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And Greg, and I warned her over and over.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Again, and then he tried to blackmail me in front
of everyone. So he personally like attacked me in front
of the whole group, and she still wanted to be
with him, and I was like, you know on camera, yeah,
but they didn't show it. Then you see a little
bit of him coming after me, but not to the extenuation.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Because we're I mean, this is the first TI I'm
hearing this.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, he came after me a little bit last season,
and you saw a little bit of it, and they
didn't after everybody. Oh, he was like, I have all
these receipts and pictures of Sally. I'm gonna throw them
up on the TV. And like even production kind of
shut it down. They were like, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I'm actually glad not to see him. Yes, I'm glad
that they didn't do that. Yeah, no, I'm glad they
didn't do that, you know.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
There.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I had mixed feelings about JT because I felt like
last season he really moved things along and he was
the one that caused most of the drama. So I
thought that we might miss some But so far the
season has been really good.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, not missing, not missing at all.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Nobody misses him.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you think he do you see him? Do you
ever see him around?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
He has pretty much all of us blocked, and he
moved I think to like Bali or something.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh, and like just went off the grid.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So you love pray, you see I do a little
bit of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
He love prey Sally. Of course I put eat first, Sally.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Let me ask you, so I'm this story. You know,
hearing this puts us such a different light on how
I feel about what happened with you and Benita, because
you know, you should have probably said that, right, You
should have had to sit down with her and said
to her, this happened last year, the same exact scenario,

(06:48):
and I was okay with it and we're still friends.
So why is it different now? Why is it double standard?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And you do see a little bit of that coming up?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I hope. I mean, I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You don't know, Well, you have to get your receipts
ready for the reunion because they have a strong argument there.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Exactly, because I told her, I was like, look, if
you like him, I'm your girl. I will try to
like him for you, and I will support this relationship.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right and I at your wedding if this is what you.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Want, exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I was never trying to date Craig, like I
wasn't like I want to date him. I was just
having fun hanging out with him.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't see anything that bad between Craig and Vinita
that she has to make it out like he is
the That was my question. So can you explain to
this can you clarify that for me as Tamera? What's
like this visceral discas why can't she move on?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't know. I really don't.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I didn't really understand it, and that's why I was
kind of being like light hearted about it.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay in the beginning is very enlightening.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, I'm like Craig said stuff about her on Watch
What Happens and just kind of wrote her off, right,
But she also said negative things about him, So they
both were talking about you.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
What did he say about her? Was it like so damn?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
He said he didn't want to be associated with her anymore,
and he just kind of was like, I don't want
to be friends with her anymore?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And I think that's mild and Bravo world.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Listen, we'll take that all day long.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, And like I have Benita's back in all of this,
especially because you know, she ends up being right about
a lot of stuff. However, she I don't think she
went about it the right way.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, so and we'll.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
See me she have did she have did about some
things like it started out, but then it seemed to
like kind of snowball. I feel we have a little
bit to go, of course. How many episodes are we
in now?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Four?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I think, and how many all together I think fifteen? Okay,
so we have a long way to go to all play.
And I know that you can't talk a lot about it,
but we could talk up to now. So it's very
I'm happy to know that it was something she was
in the same predicament last year. And you guys are

(09:12):
still friends and yes, yeah, so okay, So she it's
not worth fighting over one guy.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Didn't We just see on Instagram that she's dating possibly
or been rise to be out with Carl.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
She has been out with Carl.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, Carl's nice. I love Carl.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It is super sweet. I think that they would actually
be a good fit for each other. I've met him
a few times and I really like him, and she
deserves a good guy.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh God, your crossover is crazy. I know it is,
right right, Yes it is. But you know what, I
think that.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Your whole cast and their whole cast can be on
each other's shows. You remind me a lot of each other.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, I would agree with that because I'm friends.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I've gotten to know j see him West, I've met Sierra,
who I think is awesome. But yeah, I mean I
think that they're all great, and I love Amanda. I
think she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh. I really love them all. I love even like
when they're not getting along, I still love them all.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great show.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Is there anybody on that show you would date?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Probably not?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I mean i'd like played a little bit with you know, yeah,
one of them.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
But you can't say that, Sally, Yeah, tell us.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
No, West came to Columbia. He like it West.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I know, I love West. I love West too.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I was saying it in a tongue in cheek.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Matter.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, he's great. And we hung out Bravo con and
it was.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It was the game camera. He's like the way he
dresses and everything, it's just it's just a cute. He
speaks to his own drum like, yeah, he's so cute.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's very nice.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
His person, he's so nice. You know why.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You know what like makes girl's mouth that he does.
I'm going to tell you, I know because I watch everything.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did he make you Mount Dolores?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No? But he listens like he's very attentive when you're
talking to him, right, Sally, Yeah, I agree with that.
At the end of the day, we just want a
little kindness, gentleness, and he's really he doesn't look like that,
like he's a football player guy, but he he when

(11:31):
he comes off like that, you're like, oh, I see,
I get why the girls like him.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah, he's very genuine. Yeah, like if you're meeting out
with him, like all of his attention is on you.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's what I mean he a Midwest boy? Yeah, yeah,
Missouri or something, Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah yeah, isn't it so easy?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Isn't it just so easy?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Why can't boys just just get it?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I know?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
And there's the McBee dynasty. They're all from Missouri. Yes, yeah,
they I've met all of them and they're amazing too.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
So I love them. I funny fact like my assistant
lives in Missouri and his mom and dad went to
high school with mcbee's. Oh that's so so yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And Luke is their producer.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, Luke his first time got the producer the producers
our show Orange County. He's doing McBee right now, and he.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Used to produce Housewives. He's a good producer.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great show.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So are you dating anybody currently?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I am not? Sally? I was like a little bit
and then what was he like?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I want to know?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I mean all the guys I choose you would be.
I mean everyone is like, Sally, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No job?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
No car, Sally, Sally, we have to talk like I
couldn't wait to get you on here.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You guys, it's god, Charles, did.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't care? Like you can't tell me you're in
a hospital around these young doctors coming out of residency
doing spine surgery.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I feel like they're take it like they're.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Engaged now because they're the good guys. They're the good guys.
Aren't taken up pretty quick? Listen, Sally not looking.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I was engaged to a neurosurgeon, though. Did y'all know that?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I knew you were engaged and you called it off?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is this is this the one you were engaged to
when you were going to do the Bachelor? Righty for
the Bachelor and then you oh no, So why'd you
call it off?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I just want to know she cheated on me?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
They cheat, like twenty five days before the wedding.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Thirty days before the wedding. You had to find out
the girl dms.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Me on Instagram and she's like hey girl, And I
knew it was coming. I was like, I already know
where this conversation is.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Did do you have like a gut feeling you just
didn't want to be in denial?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That was it in a Was it like a relationship
or was it like a drive by blow job kind
of thing?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, it was that.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I shouldn't have said that. No, please, there's a difference. Yeah,
both as bad, but one's emotionally involved and one he's
just a pig. And well I.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Think he was doing it with like others too, So
I was just like, I don't want any part of this.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
So why would he you want to get married? If
he was, why don't act single? I do you think
he was cool for the first time?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know they're in school forever.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably because I feel like they're like
teenagers are like college when they're getting out of rest,
like doing all that work and you know what I mean,
it's years and years and then by the time they're forty,
they're out and they have money and then they just
want to play.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, timing is everything, sally, but what they don't know
and they're so stupid. They could be so smart and
they're so dumb. Number one, they're nine for smarter than
the girls, that's number one. They always get caught. They're
not slick. Yeah, and it's just such a waste. Look
what he lost. But like you can't go from giving
social media. Let me go after him camera his balls

(15:12):
off camera will will kick his Like he'll be so
sorry he did that with my friend.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I mean, he'll look at after he did it.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I like went on four TV shows, He's probably like, what.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The hell you know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's sitting there with whoever he's went down, and he's going,
yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I was, Oh my god, that's exactly another question for you.
How do you juggle your job with filming?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Filming is very I mean, my job comes first, and
they know that.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Once the hospital calls me, I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Like lost it. Ye yeah, but yeah there.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I mean if I have a case, like if there's
some scenes that we were filming and the hospital called
and I was like, I have to go, and no
matter what we're doing, like, I have to leave, and
they respect it and are very They're very good about that.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Can you explain to me exactly what you do?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, I would love to.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Because everyone thinks I'm claiming to be a doctor.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
So I went to the medical sales college specialized in
the spine, and then I got this job right out
of college. So I've been doing it for almost nine
years and I control a robot for the surgeon. The
surgeon is still doing the operation, but I am sending
the robot to different trajectories in the spine where screws

(16:32):
go and all of his instruments go down my roboty.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Now, that is insane, and you don't have to have
a medical degree to do that. You just have to
be strained in this correct.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
It took me about two years before I was extremely
comfortable with, you know, doing all the surgeries. Now I
just show up and I'm like, you know, I'm confident
in whatever we're doing. But I'm standing right next to
the patient. I'm not scrubbed in or anything, but I'm in. Yeah,
I'm fully in the surgery.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So do you meet the patient before or no?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Sometimes?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean I'm mainly at Children's hospital now, but I
start in the hot Like sometimes the patient will like
roll in and just be like hi, you know, say
hi to everyone, but they're already kind of like loopy
by the time they get back there.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
But I'm not like.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Going to patient's rooms and meeting them and talking about
surgery right right.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I was just wondering if there's ever an incident where
a patient was like, wait a minute, aren't you Oh yeah, no,
not yet.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Some of the doctors, which is funny in like the hospital,
they'll be like, hey, can I get a selfie for
my wife?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's so cut that is so funny. I figured it
was something with a pharmaceutical sales training that.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
You go through.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's technically medical device sales.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Medical device Okay, I don't sell anything.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I just try to get my surgeons to use the
robot then train them.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Do you ever train them so medical professional so they
can do it? Or do you guess they were?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
So I will fly sometimes the conference is where we
have labs, or I'll go to a lab and I'll
work with a surgeon and train other surgeons or residents on.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
How to use the robot. Wow, that's so interesting. You
know I'm a surge tech sally are you?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I just like to get lots of plastic surgery. I
love that doesn't need robotic.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's about four instruments.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, what's next?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
But I'm very obsessed with that. I'm I'm very obsessed
with my job if.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I should be, because it's so interesting. How long is
the surgery typically for you? Because I know it's jeez.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Sometimes it can be anywhere from like four.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Hours to eight Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, So now I have the most suspect for you
because a lot of people get on Bravo and then
they quit all their daytime jobs and they're just making
money on Bravo. And let's face it, you can get
paid very well, but you're on and then when the
show's over or they get let go, they're like, oh shit,

(19:05):
I have no I mean, this is very true in
the housewife world, like a lot of housewives don't have
a backup plan.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, and that's my surgeon, actually, one of my surgeons.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
He's always like, you're not gonna leave me, are you?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
And I got that. I literally got this tattoo for
him because I'm like, now I can't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's a little robot.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, my god, how cute. Could you see yourself doing
any other Bravo show like vander Pump Rules, below Deck
anything like that, Well, below Deck would be impossible because
you travel too much and you have to work.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
If the opportunity ever presented itself, like I thought it
I would, it would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You know. I love the show Traders, which.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Guy, yeah I was, I was on season two was.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
On and I was on.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
But then you know, only were going to have to
give your job, like traders. You could be there from
a day, you could be there for a month and
some time. So that's not that's something you'd have to
actually take away from your job. But I think you're
established enough in your job that you could do that now.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But regardless if you were there a day or thirty days,
you have to take a whole thirty days off, right
because even if he's.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Less, that's less that I took off for the Bachelor.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So so you could do that.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, yeah, they were very supportive of I mean, you know,
they were the surgeon that I was with worked at
that hospital that I worked at, so everyone was just
felt bad for me.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They were like, go they go to the Bachelor.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
What made you decide to try out for the Bachelor?
To go on the Bachelor? We obviously know that you
didn't go through.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
With it, But what I actually ended up getting back
with him after that whole experience, and that's why I
left because I was still in love with him.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I was like, what am I doing here?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
So I am getting a lot of hate also because
everyone's like, she's so thirsty, She's been on all these shows,
and I'm like all of these shows fell into my lap.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
What do you care they're jealous?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, don't listen to that shit, because I'll tell you
right now.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Any one of them would take that job.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yes, any one of them would do that.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
The reason why we're doing that is.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Because they're jealous and they can go off as far as.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's not to talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, listen, it's not attainable. Like you can't buy into it.
You know how many housewives, you know how many A
lot like money, people with private planes, billionaires. They can't
buy into being on these shows. Right. You have to
buy luck by chance, by the grace of God. Yeah,
and be not never take it for granted. And the

(21:44):
worst thing you can do ever is let the chatter
outside of the show get to you because you don't
even know who they are.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I know. That's what I'm working on right now.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And the main ones are always allowed to what you.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Have, right, and they're usually like, I don't get Sally.
You know, my whole Instagram is number one now right now,
the monks and their dog number two.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Then do you know she probably doesn't know about the monks.
Do you know about the monks that are walking Sally?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh, so there's a whole group of monks that decided
to come out of seclusion to walk for peace. They
started in November. They're walking from I think Houston and
they're walking across the country on foot with their dog
all the way to Washington, DC. Some of them have

(22:36):
no shoes. They're just stopping, praying, just sleeping, and they
get up and go the next day. They don't have food.
They only have what you give them. They're not allowed
to ask for anything. I'm obsessed. I'm dying.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I need to look up instead of looking on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, Sally, instead of looking at all the ship haters
want to look at good stuff like that. It's like
dogs shaving dogs.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
So Sally, me and Dlors we're talking about New Year's resolution.
Neither one of us really do it, but there's always
like a goal. And if there's any goal that we
could do, it would be to like put our phones
down and not live our life on social media and
look like Sally, Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It looks like you.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I sep it. Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm too old for that.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
But you and your bikini on the beach playing football
stocks Oh my god, I was dying.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm like, why is she there?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
She should be in sane barts on a yacht.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I'm telling you, don't you worry about what anybody's saying,
because the normal saying people that are watching the show,
they're not saying that. And I remember going to normal people. Yeah,
last year, two years ago, I had a really bad season.
I got death threats, I got all kinds of stuff.
And I met with somebody at Bravo and they told me,
you know what, camera, it's three percent of our viewers

(23:52):
that are making those comments. Three percent. That's it. That's
so don't let those three percenters set you anyway. Yeah, look,
go look at the monks.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Go go work on them.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I'm going to look at the monks. Do you watch
any other do you watch housewives at all?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
I am going to get into it, but I need
to know. So my best friends, I have like six
best girlfriends from college.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
They're obsessed.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well yeah, the college girls are our best friends. The
sorority girls when they show up, they're so fun. I
always point the amount. I'm like college friends, right, because
they're having a good time.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
So what they watch it and you don't.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
They watch all of them.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
And I'm just now getting into like watching Bravo and
because I'm always watching some stupid like Gray's Anatomy over
and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, well it's your field now, you're now this is
your field too.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yes, but I just don't know which one to start with.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
What is there any brother shows that you do watch?

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Just I've only seen Summer House and the McBee Dynasty.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yes, you're you're busy, actually working.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
So you want to watch?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
When we start? Where do I start? Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
God?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I would say start season seven for New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Oh, so I don't need to start season so.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think that the earlier seasons were so different. I mean,
if you want to, but you'd have to have a
lot of time to do. It would be to my
team seasons. Yeah, I would start in the later seasons.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Because it's relevant to the cast that's there.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Salt Lakes is a good one. Oh, Salt Lake.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
City is good. And you know, it's not that many seasons.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
And like six or seven right now, isn't that much.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I didn't even know, but I would start Salt Lake
when in the past when jen Shaw went away, what
was that three seasons ago? Yeah, so I would. Yeah,
so we could Tamrell text you or I'll I'll DM you, Yeah,
where to start?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
What?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
But you know you gotta like do it.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm going to I don't have work for like a
week because so well I have a case tomorrow, but
after that I'm done for like a week.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
So I'm going to get into some shows.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, okay, go a lot from us.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah. I don't want to take up too much of
your time, but I do want to know. Is there
anything that you can tease for the upcoming season that
you won't get in trouble?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think you'll see hopefully you'll see my opinion on
Craig change very drastically.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Oh wow, Yeah, Like I am invested.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Is it bad? Task?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
What your friend Charlie?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
How how are things now?

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I mean things are good, Things are good.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, I just I feel, you know, it just it
was harder for me, just because I was the one
that kind of just like brought her into this friend
group and introduced her and I felt like a little
bit stop in the back at times, and I think,
maybe we'll we'll see that. But it was more about
me and her friendship more than it was about like Craig,
if that makes sense. Once I brought her into our

(27:02):
like the whole group things started to shift between us,
and it just like hurt my feelings and I was like,
why is this happening?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
We had such a good friendship before.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, well, Sally, you haven't been friends with her for
a long time right now. It's been a good time,
but not a long time.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Not a long time, so you know, moving forward.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know, we're older, Tamer and I are older. We've
had a lot of experience with friendships. And you really
can't be that disappointed because you there's not a lot
invested there, right, Maybe maybe you could be a little
bit surprised, but not like it's not a game changer
for you. You guys aren't childhood friends. It's not years ongoing.
You bonded over being a little.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Wild, I agree, which is fine. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
But there's there's some people that you trust one hundred
thousand percent, and there's some people you trust in different ways.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
With different things.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes, for sure, nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Again, Charlie, it's just the I feel like, the just
the friendship that my mind right had, you know what
I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, I mean I think that both Dolores and I
are coming from a place where we just look at
you as our child are. We're just going to give
you a big hug and be just like, don't let
those people upset you. You're way above all that. Think
about everything. You have, your established, your career, you're on Bravo,
you have everything that everybody wants. So just keep it up,
just keep pissing people off.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I love it. And it's better to be in no
relationship than in a relationship with the wrong person, especially
when with no job. And don't ever let me hear
that again. That's the most disgusting thing I ever heard.
Don't you dare?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
And how you be with JT than a guy with
no job?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh yeah, I'd rather be so listen honestly, I just
want you to be with the right guy. And remember
boys lie, remember look at your shirt and remember that boy.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
They just sent me like three sets I've been wearing
every day my family.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You know, I was the first one to buy them.
They don't send me ship, so.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Maybe don't listen to this and send me ship.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I know I used to buy them for my daughter
all the time. I got him from myself.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I still buy I get nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Not appreciated, But thank you so much Sally for taking
the time I know that.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Thank you, Sally, thanks for all your advice. Seriously it
was yes.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
If you are always here for you, we are.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
We've been.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Have a great Christmas, happy holiday. By bye.
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