February 5, 2024 • 47 mins
Tamra is setting the record straight with what REALLY happened to the Tres Amigas? Who’s telling the truth?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And Tamra Judge. Hi, Teddy him, you had a very
sultry voice today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh it's because I'm on coffee and I really feel
pumped up.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh you do, Okay. I woke up for the first
time in a long time with like energy. Like yesterday,
I fell asleep in the middle of the day. I
never do that. I don't know what's going on. I
think I'm just just exhausted physically and mentally. Today it's
gonna be a good day. Today is going to be
a good day.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well that's good because we don't even have time to
recap what's going on from our weekends because we've got
to get right into the First Housewife headline, which involves you,
Tamera Shocker.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So this is from my page six article.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Vicky blames Tamra's assistant Cayden for traces Amiga's fallout. Tamera responds,
all right, break this entire thing down.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
First of all, she needs me very careful, Cayden. First
of all, has nothing to do with this. He's also
a private person because he is not a public person,
nor does he want to be. Does he does not
want to be on the show. I've asked him, I
begged him. He doesn't. So it's very disappointing that she
would blame a twenty four year old that is like
my lifeline. He helps me with everything. He helps me
(01:29):
with the podcast, he helps suit me, you know, with
my reels and things like that. With social media, he
doesn't answer my DMS. People are asking me, does he answer? No,
I answer my own DMS. But he helps me with
my social posts. He helps me with a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He's a great I have a question for you before
you launch into the next portion of this. Do you
think that Vicky truly just has a problem with any
person that you trust or you feel close to, like
she it's like a jealousy thing because I've seen it
happen one person after another.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And I'll tell you, I'll tell you what the stem
from is that when I was in Scotland, Kate would
Kayden would answer for me, and as far as trace
mega show that was coming up, he knew my thoughts,
he knew where I stood on everything and he said
something to her like I think it was like Tamra
does not feel comfortable doing this show, and she then
(02:21):
lost it. She accidentally was trying to text Shannon and
text Kayden and kind of went off about him and
I'm like, he's just oh.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
She like took a She was trying to go off
off to Shannon about Kayden, but she messaged it to Caitaen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yes, yes, so I am. I'm going to put my
readers onto this because I have it written down. I
have this is the correct timeline. I have screenshots, I
have receipts. Hold on, that's all. I was gonna say, Yeah,
I have shots, receipts, I have text message timeline, I
have it all. Okay. So basically to break it down,
(02:56):
they hired an agent. His name is Paris. When I
was headed Scotland, I didn't have anything to do with this.
The Phoenix show was after I got home from Scotland,
not prior to going to Scotland. Like Vicky said, I
told them that I did not want to do the
Phoenix show. I thought it was too soon after Shannon's duy,
that she needed to concentrate on her recovery. I was
trying to be a good friend. I wasn't concerned with
(03:18):
the Paris or you said this. I said this to
Vicky and Shannon, and I'll read the text message that
I wrote to them. Okay. They told me if I
did not do the show in Phoenix, they would get
sued because they signed a contract while I was in Scotland.
I did not sign a contract. I ended up doing
the show in Phoenix. After the first show, the three
(03:39):
of us plus the agent Paris had lunch and I
told them this was in Phoenix. I'm very busy. I'm
splitting my time between Orange County and my remodel in
Big Bear. I have three podcasts, being a CBD a family,
and I cannot travel every weekend. It's just not physically
possible for me. And they should probably find a backup
if they want to go on the road. I would
try to do as many shows as I can could,
(04:00):
but don't count on me. A couple weeks later, it
was basically the nail macoffin When I found it, they
were both talking behind the back, and how did you
find that out? Well? One a podcast to repeated things
that Vicky had told her. Another one was from a
friend that Shannon had told really nasty things about me.
(04:21):
Then I got a text from the agent asking me
if I was available to do a few shows in Texas,
and I declined. They did not ask me to do
more shows. I got the text message from the agent
asking me if I was interested in doing a show
in Texas. Again, they never ever, ever reached out to
me to ask me. They knew that I was upset.
They knew that I was mad. So for them for
(04:43):
Vicky to go on there and say that, you know,
she couldn't even reach out. They couldn't reach out to
ask me. I just responded to a text message. They
did not call me because they knew that I was mad.
They had Paris do it. Now they're trying to blame
it on my assistant Caden, which had absolutely nothing to
do with it. Let me just read you the text
message that I sent from the hospital. This is from
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the hospital I got home from Scotland. We were supposed
to do a Phoenix show in the next month or so. Hi,
I'm home a second Phoenix show. No, A first one, Okay,
first one. Hi, I'm home from Scotland, but I'm in
the hospital. I would call you, but I have a
tube down my throat. I've been extremely sick for two weeks.
I'm waiting to see if I need surgery. We haven't
talked in so long. I hope you're doing better physically
(05:27):
and mentally. I know you're probably beating yourself up. I
thought long and hard about this, and I need to
be honest with you. I don't feel comfortable moving forward
with the Trace and Megas show next month. The comments
about you doing the show and me and Vicky supporting
it is horrible. It's not a good look for any
of us, especially you. Shannon Bravo has told me it's
not a good idea and we should postpone. It's just
(05:49):
too soon. I'm now getting messages comments that I'm an
alcoholic for continuing and supporting you with the show next month.
I'm sorry, but I just can't move forward with the show. Okay,
And what's that? What was that date? Do you have it?
That was October tenth? October tenth? And then at what
point in time?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because I know there was an additional situation with you
and Shannon post this where things got worse so that
you went and did the Phoenix show. November fifteenth and
sixteenth after and you guys can go back and listen
to our earlier podcast where actually Tamra tells us and
we have a conversation where she's like, I don't think
(06:30):
this is a good idea. I don't want to move forward.
And that was after she sent those original texts. So
then you go and do the show November fifteenth and sixteenth, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And then I had a falling out with Shannon, and
this was prior to Paris. The agent asking me if
I want to do the Phoenix show. Was Shannon drinking
at the November fifteenth and sixteenth show, Yes, she was,
So you already did Phoenix. We already did Phoenix. And
then what before Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You said you didn't want to move forward after Phoenix,
But then what happened?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I had to do Phoenix because they told me that
they signed a contract while I was in Scotland and
we would get sued if I did not follow through.
So I did it. There was two shows in Phoenix,
back to one on one day one the following day.
In between those two shows, we all sat down and
I explained to them that I'm extremely busy. I don't
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have a lot of time, and I said earlier, all
the labeled will point all the things I had to do,
and they knew. I also at that time told them,
I said, I do want to let you know that
me and Teddy are doing a live for iHeart. It's
a one off. It's something that iHeart has put on.
So this is not in place of anything. This is
just something additional that what I have.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And also I want to point out if we do
more live shows, it will still be one off, so
I don't want people to come back and go Tamra
said that it was a one off, and it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Wasn't off at the time that that was booked, and
it still is. We don't have any plans at this
moment to go on the road. We don't. It was
our show successful. Absolutely, do we have plans to do more. No,
nothing on the books now. If one of the producers
comes to us and says, hey, I want you to
do a show there, we absolutely will do a show there. Yeah,
So that's what I want to point out.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But then there was an additional something that happened between
you and Shannon and you let Vicky know about it,
and then Vicky.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Kind of lost it. Right, like, remind me these details.
This was after the Phoenix show. This was November twenty second.
Remember ever twenty second, Shannon and I had a falling
out because she sent me a screenshot of liking Alexis's post. Okay,
I'm not going to go into detail because this clearly
(08:42):
will be part of the show, but that's where things
went bad November twenty second. And to be clear, this
was not a post of Alexis and John. This is
just no. It was about her kid's freaking birthday. So
that was November twenty second, and Paris text me December
eighth asking me so for them to say that I
(09:05):
did not reach out them and tell them they knew
that I wasn't happy. Vicky went on to say something
sharing some personal information about me, about my house in
Big Bear, about my contract with Bravo to a podcaster
that repeated it. They also said that Vicky told them
that the only reason they're with me is because it's
(09:26):
a business deal, not that they we're friends. So that
was really the nail in the coffin. At first, I
was like, listen, guys, I don't have the time. Maybe
need to find it back up. I'll try my best
and then after I heard that that was just the
complete nail in the coffin. So you know, Vicky went
on Jeff Lewis Live. I literally called Jeff two days
ago like crying. I said, I can't take this anymore.
How can you allow hold one moment before we get
(09:48):
into your conversation with Jeff.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
These are some of the allegations that Vicky made on
Jeff Lewis. She was on Jeff Loui's Live last Friday.
Vicky said, from what I hear, she said, we were
talking about her behind her back. Gumbelson insisted that she
wasn't talking badly about Judge behind her back, joking, it
was actually kind of in front of her.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think it's Kayden.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
She speculated he was hearing things from Shannon's and sending
it over to Tama Tamra. He's a troublemaker. Vicki also
said Judge had an issue with Beador's twenty twenty three
hit and run DUI arrest, even though one has nothing
to do with the other. But I have to be clear,
if someone continues to continue drinking in your presence and
(10:30):
it's in a situation where you love that person, you
care about that person and you feel like this is
in a healthy spot for them, then I do think
one has to do with the other.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Then you went on to your stories. This is this
is why I can't go out of town, Tamra. Yeah,
like we can.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You and I cannot be trusted to us and the
stories without talking to one another. She goes on her stories.
It's an absolute blatant lie, judge claim. The reason I
am not doing the trays and megage is because I
caught them talking.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I had on my back.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's why it pisses me off to no end, because
he's the sweetest guy and he does so much for me.
She continued, adding that Cayden has also previously helped the door,
so this is bullshit and don't listen to Vicky's lives.
And I can say from one hundred percent, my recollection
was that every time I saw Vicky or Shannon and
(11:18):
Caden's presence, they sought after him to talk to him
and chat with him. Shannon, I mean even at Bravo Coon.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But let me just tell you, when Phoenix Show came,
Shannon said, and I have a text message. We need
to bring Kayden. We need to bring Kayden. He helps
us out so much. And I said, okay. She goes, well,
I'm going to buy him a ticket and I said, well,
i'll split the flight because Cayden lives in a different state.
I'll split that with you if you want him there
so much. It wasn't my idea, and he's my assistant. Now.
(11:46):
Now what happened was is you know he she saw
what a great person Kayden is and she said, God,
I need somebody to help me with my social media.
And here I am trying to help Caden out and say, listen,
why don't you help her post her social media, more
interaction on there because he's really good at it, and
see if she'll pay you. And so he asked, and
she said yes. When we were in Phoenix, she we
(12:09):
were sitting at the table and by the way, Cayden
was at the table, the lunch table where we are
with the agent, and I told him that I don't
know how much time I could give to this. And
Vicki said at that table that she was firing her
social media manager, that she was looking for someone else,
and told Kayden that she would like to talk to him.
That conversation never happened. But Cayden has multiple DMS and
(12:32):
text messages Kate, can you help me with this? Kin?
Can you help me with that? Kate? And something about
her account her Facebook count got hacked and he tried
to help her with that. So if he's so bad,
why is she reaching out for his help?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And I had something else that I want to point
out in the world of social media and going on
a podcast to speak about somebody that is not in
this world like that is when so any time I
hire anyone, and same goes for most people and any
kind of public eye, you have them sign an NDA.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yep. So that means that person cannot.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So if somebody else is coming out and speaking lives
about them, you cannot. Essentially, like the way that you
and I can defend each other ourselves, you can't. You
can't necessarily do that and you can't show your timeline, receipts,
messages all that stuff. So all what Vicky's doing is
(13:31):
actually cruel.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh I know, because.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, he hasn't signed an NDA with Vicky, but saying
all that stuff about Shannon just puts him in a
place that it's not right.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's not right, it's not right, and it's complete lie.
So you know, I was upset. I went on my
social media because he is like a son to both
me and Eddie. In fact, we have a group text
with me, Eddie, and Cayden in that titled the Other Son.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, so I mean she obviously felt that way too,
because I remember seeing on social media that Kayden helped
Shannon move into her new place with Taylor.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Thank you, thank you. Well, this is the problem. They
know that they've been caught. They don't want to take accountability,
like oftentimes they don't take accountability.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So tell me about your conversation with Jeff, because I'm
actually going on Jeff Lewis in a couple of weeks
with Emily to.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Talk about popping off yea again. I want to be prepped. Well,
I called him and he said, I'll call you back.
In fifteen minutes, he called me and we started talking
about it, and I was just crying. So I can't
take this anymore. You know, I'm constantly You're having people
that go on your radio show that just blatantly lie
about me. What we know Vicky has a problem with
(14:43):
the truth, and what she said was a complete lie.
I am tired of trying to defend myself. I've only
done the right thing. I've only tried to Like, I
didn't want to do the show, not just because it
wasn't a good look for me, it wasn't a good
look for Shannon. Yeah, you know, and I want my
friend to get help at the time, like, and I
still want to get help, and going and doing this
was not the way to do it. It was too soon.
(15:05):
And what did Jeff say in resus? He goes, I
get it, I get it, but you can't go on
your social media and yell. And I'm like, oh, rich
coming from you, and I'm like, I'm not yelling. I
was stating the facts. And it's upsetting to me. You
were frustrated and you wanted to get the truth out.
I mean, let's just talk about Vicky's timeline on there.
Vicky said, we did the Phoenix Show and then I
went on to Scotland and had second thoughts. That's a lie.
(15:28):
I was in Scotland September October. The Phoenix Show wasn't
until November. Vicky says, I never told them I wanted
out of the trace and make a show and feels
I should have a reach out to them first. I
told them in person that I wasn't really available to
do a lot of shows. They might need to get
a backup. And then after I found out they were
talking about me, it became a problem between the three
of us, and then they didn't even reach out to me.
(15:49):
Paris reached out to me. Well, even before that, you
had told them right after the DUI that you did
not want to You did not think it was a
good idea, right, Well, I told him I got home
from Scotland, so I found out about the DOUI the
day I left for Scotland, so I didn't have a phone,
so I wasn't able to communicate, so I told them.
You know, Vicky says she didn't talk behind my back
(16:10):
and that it was in front of me. Vicky, you
literally told someone who I won't name, private information, told
that person that was related to that repeated on her podcast, like,
don't tell me you didn't talk beyond me back. What
she said wasn't as bad is what the other one said,
Shannon said, So I don't think she even really knows
all of it. Vicky thinks it came from Cayden cousin issues.
(16:31):
Why would it come from Caayden, do am I controlled
by a twenty four year old? Am I controlled by anybody? No?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I know which friend told you, and it wasn't Kayden.
You guys, So I just think this is one of
those situations where it could have been handled so differently.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Let's do a hypothetical here. Two teams in a pod already.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Existed before your very first live show with Shannon and Vicky.
Not for one second did I go out and try
to trash that show what was happening, But because I
want to support you and all of your endeavors, because
that's what friends do, and.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what I told I told Chet that on the
phone too. I said, these fools don't support anything. They
are so insanely jealous of my success. Teddy is a
true friend, and they just want to keep and not chanting.
But Vicky always wants to rip you down, just like
she wants rip you down because you're close to me,
she wants to rip paid down because he's close to me.
I'm tired of it, and to say that, I need
(17:37):
to say I'm sorry to her. I own apology for
what what did I do? What did I do? I
think she just I didn't want to keep. Yeah, I
didn't want to continue. Like if I told you, told
you or the agent to day that I didn't want
to continue with this podcast, are you gonna hate me? No?
No exactly. It's just they're just it's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Business and if it's not suiting you and it's not
giving you and you're not enjoying it, and you're like,
and let's be clear, you're not under a contract.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Right, I'm not under a contract. In fact, that Vicky
and Shannon argued the entire time doing the show, even
at lunch, they were arguing, and I'm like, this is
so toxic. I don't want to do this. Yeah, they
were outed. You know. I think the point.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Is all of us just bullshit, and Vicky's looking for
attention and let's hope that their show does well so
maybe they can move on from coming at Tamra because
this is Billy.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This is ridiculous. But you know what, they rebranded themselves.
They were smart about it. They you know, they could
have bought just a third person in, but they probably
don't have any other friends, so they wi did their
well true bring another I mean in the show was
already created. Do that. I mean they were pushing me
to do LLC the bank account they were getting like
(18:54):
I wouldn't. It was hesitant, hesidand hesitant because I knew
that this just didn't suit me. It wasn't. It was
so I already have so much on my plate.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean, I love you, Tam, but I don't
want to share a bank account with you, and you
don't want to share a bank account with me either.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That is, I I did not want to connect my
LLC to something that they were involved in. If you don't, yeah, no,
then you're held liable.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's absolutely bananas. But I'm glad we got it on
the record on it was that happened.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Very upsetting to me. And just to think that, I mean,
I'm not shocked that she can go on there and
just completely lie about the timeline everything.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm actually not shocked because this is her mo is.
She does her best to make other people seem like
they are bad people, when originally she is the one
to start all of the dramas. So this just lines
up to exactly who I have always thought that Vicky is.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So she's just doubling down. All right, Well, let's get
onto our first headline, which is actually a very sad one.
I know, don't you think. I mean, I don't know
(20:09):
too many housewives that have left after fourteen years. I
don't think there's been any. I think that. I think
we had one that left after ten. But Candy Burr
says she's leaving the Real House with Milana. I'm going
to take a break. Speaking to Variety on the carpet
at the Grammys, Candy's confirmed when asked about the show,
I'm not keeping up. I already said it, so I'll
(20:29):
tell you. I decided I'm not coming back this year.
It's been fourteen seasons and they allowed us to sit
around for a little too long. But during that time,
I had started working on a lot of other things
and I got some nice big projects coming. The only
thing that like, I know for a fact that she
did quit, But there seems to be a little bit
of shade there where she says we sat it around
(20:51):
a little too long.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So what she's saying is after Atlanta ended, before they
picked up the next season, before they all got their
offer letters.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Before that. It was only it was in September, So
that's oh, well, I'm used to the big separation we had.
Do you know that Orange County didn't even film in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, I know, but I think there was such for
that particular show.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I think it was a lot, so they must have
had a quick turnover. We've always had like three months.
We got our offer letter a week or so prior
to filming, and our reunion was in October? Was it October?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So essentially they're trying to figure out what's going on
with Atlanta. In Candy's opinion, she was waiting around too
long and then she just figured out other things to do.
She you know, made sure that she was going to
make her money and do things in her career that
she wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And now now she's gone, and now I'm curious what
they will do moving forward.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Does this mean they're going to hire somebody back that
was on for quite a long time because now this
freeze up? I mean, Candy's probably one of the most
paid housewives.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Correct, Yeah, would imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I also, can can you remind me of this was
candy last seat at the reunion this year? I don't know, Yes, yes,
so I think, you know, even though we're like, you know,
she still had a big part of this season. I
think she was starting to check out even last year,
because that's not well last.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Year's she I think she kind of checked out. And
I'll be honest with you, you're twelve. I was checked
out a bit like twelve years straight of doing the show,
and hindsight being off of two years. Was it was good?
It recharged me?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I mean I think every long housewife, long standing housewife,
needs a breakthrough too.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think I told Andy that too, because it kind
of just recharges you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But then she said, you know what, I'm I'm going
to take a break. I'm going to take a moment.
I'm not going to come back this year though, Like
she made it clear like a break didn't maybe like
a couple of weeks and then.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Blah blah blah. Okay, now we go right into the
next one.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
But I am curious who Atlanta will bring on and
so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I just I'm curious to see, like if she's gone,
if they're going to bring Porscha back. I mean, I
know they're probably gonna be the patris On married to medicine.
I mean, it's possible that she could do both. It
is possible she could do both. I wonder if I
don't know. Do you think that Andy would do that?
I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know
(23:22):
what Prava does.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And we think that Phaedra would come in and really
stirred up like she used to.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I feel like she's kind of past that now I
have I don't know. I don't watch Married to Medicine,
so I don't know how she is on that show.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, she always gives the best confessionals no matter what,
no matter if it's Trader's Girls, Trip, whatever, But it
feels like that she has her boundaries now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
So who knows.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But I think she's great television, and so does Cruise.
He loves her on Traders.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
She's really even my mom's like that FAJR girl's so sweet.
I can't believe she'd murdered you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, I guess Phaedra's a little bit messy on
Married to Medicine, But I don't know. I think it's
just as different depending on the show. This next one
is Candace Dillard. Bassett is grateful for common sense as
Michael Darby's defamation lawsuit is dismissed. This is from People Magazine.
A judge has dismissed the defamation lawsuit Candace was facing
(24:20):
for Michael Darby. Michael, the court determined, was precluded from
maintaining a lawsuit against Candace based on a release that
he signed to appear on a Bravo reality series. Candace
has remained mum about the suit on the show, but
now that it's over, she's breaking her silence. I'm incredibly
grateful to God for protecting me. I'm also grateful for
common sense, the support of my family, and my incredible
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legal team for helping the plaintiff to get to exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What he deserves for me. Absolutely missing good. But I'm
sure it cost her a pretty penny just defending herself.
And that's the problem with these our legal system in
this lawsuit that she could have paid two hundred thousand
easy just an attorney fees. I have to say, if
she does, I hope she gets them back. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
This next one is Anne Marie's Instagram story. It's pretty
much she's getting a lot of questions, so she wants
to clarify the title nurse anesthesiologists was adopted by the
American a whole bunch of information. I'm so over this.
I'm so over it. But then like doctor Tiffany Moon,
(25:25):
but she chimes in the ASA doesn't not love CRNAs
or care that you're on a reality show bringing more
attention to your profession. They care when CRNA's misrepresent themselves
as physicians or use terminology to intentionally mislead the public
to believe that they are anesthesiologists. Don't make this into
(25:46):
a CRNA verse MD thing. I have a misrespect for
my CRNA colleagues, just not the ones who call themselves anesthesiologists.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh my god. Okay, and that came from pink pox box. Wow, Okay,
over it. I just feel like I want to put
it to bed.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
As an Anna Marie's post, she she's linked nurse.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And a phesiologist.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I think what concerns me about what Tiffany Moon is
saying is that she's working on getting Anna Marie off
the show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Does that mean she's coming for her.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Like her CRNA license and trying to get them to
pressure her to not be on the show. Like, I
don't like the way this is because she's now currently
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They were canceled, so what is she doing? And I
mean that's just really evil spirited to say that I'm
working on getting her off the show. First of all,
you have no authority at all to get anybody off
the show. You're not even on a show, So sit down,
Tiffany Moon. Yeah, calm down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And then Crystal was on E and Queens of Bravo
posted this link talking about Anne Marie. Crystal says, I
just think this is who she is. HER's the line
that I'm jealous because I was clear I wanted to
go to medical school and become a surgeon, and she
went to nursing school.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That's who she is.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, no one is jealous of Anna Mary's life. Crystal
wrote on Instagram about dreet By, don't borrow diamonds from
your wife. I usually don't clap back on social media,
but when you take it too far, like my marriage,
I'm going to protect him and I feel good about it.
That's because dree said that Crystal was a child bride
in her confessional, So that's her clapback, I guess. And
(27:31):
then Crystal says she called out Erica at the reunion
for only mentioning her about the diamond earringe. She also
plans to watch part two of the Housewife and the Hustler,
she plugged that.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Then, Crystal says, Kathy Hilton brought a lightness and comedic
relief to the reunion, and hope she.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Comes back to the show next season. Okay, okay, okay, Kristin, Okay, Wes,
I know Camille Grammer thinks Caroline Manzo has things too
far with the lawsuit. We all think Caroline has gone
too far with this lawsuit. I wasn't in the bathroom
when the so called alleged event happened. What I did
(28:10):
see was the two ladies laughing and getting along. Emil,
I don't think, well, I think that she's trying to
support Brandy, which I totally understand. But when it does
come to lawsuits, it's just best to stay out of
it because the more you talk about it, the more
you're going to be drugged into it. And even if
(28:31):
you're a witness, so you get proposed, you know, sometimes
you have to hire attorney.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But also if you're going to say I wasn't in
the bathroom, it essentially what we've read that you can't
say that.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Just say like, I wish this would come out so
we could all see the full truth. Yeah, this I
didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Kenya Moore says a Real Housewive Atlanta cast announcement as
getting closer the love be Scart article. Kenya hinted that
a cast announcement maybe coming soon, but remain coy as
to whether or not she or any of the ladies
will be a part of it. Kenya also squash fans
hope for a Nini Leek's return, reminding fans the fact
that she sued her employer and accused them of awful things.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, I don't see Nanni coming back ever because of that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Then did you see this next thing? And do we
believe it at all? Because lu Ane leaves kind of
a cryptic comment.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So word on.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
The street is this could be your next Real Housewives
of New York cast and it's Derenda bren Luyne, Sonya
Aaron Jessel uba Uba.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I am hearing from a very reliable source that this
is absolutely not the case. Then it is possible that
one of the original housewives put that out there to
get that going. And there is an announcement I think
coming out today about somebody that is returning that we
didn't expect to return.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, do you think it's gonna be Jennifer Lyons maybe,
uh see, I mean I think it's gotta be. I mean,
I don't think it could be Tinsley. I don't think
she's going to change up her life with her current
husband though.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
No, no, no, no, I don't think so, I don't.
I don't think it's Bethany. Well, let's let's continue on
blowing through.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But I do think that uh Luanne added a little
fuel to the fire by doing this emoji.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Let me see if I can emoji. You do hers,
you do one, I'll do one. Okay, Yeah, it's it's
not true from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So yeah, and this next when we will get into
more as we talk about Potomac. But I did do
(31:06):
a little recon on Mia Thornton's new man Incognito.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
No, I wasn't being incognito. That is his name.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He is a radio personality currently on the nationally syndicated
show Posted on the Corner, which airs on Hot one
O seven point nine in Atlanta among other cities. On
a post date of January second, twenty twenty four, he
shared a photo with Mia, captioning Queen Today a special
Miss Mia Thornton. It's been two decades since we celebrated
my birthday together. If only the world could see how
(31:37):
we brought it in loll cheers, tour happily ever after.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
So they've known each other for a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It looks like, Yeah, they met in high school and
dated for three and a half years. Oh and then
MIA's hashtag on her post with him where she's kind
of like straddling him getting out of the car is
hashtag wifey mom, lover almost fiance.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Wow. I don't know how many other people hashtag that.
It's like that a popular hashtag. I don't know, I'm
not sure. Well, this rolls us right into Real Housewives
of Potomac recap.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, at this point, I feel like Giselle's daughter must
be in the editing room because there was no need
for that flashback where they drag the name GNA and
remind us that they're gonna keep the extra coverage for
your vagina.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, this guy. They really like to talk about stuff
going on down there a lot. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Then Necca says it was nice of Wendy to invite
her to Eddie's event. Levy tells Neca to be cautious
because it will be her turf. Nekka says she wants
to see if they can move past their differences.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
If you were Meka, would you go to Wendy's event? Yes,
yes I would because every episode this season there's been
somebody not attending or somebody not being invited, and that
is not how you produce a good show.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Also, Mecca, I just want to tell you as you
plan for this event that you're going to have not one.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I can teach you a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
About how to not make friends, and that's to have
them come over and unpack your.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Wedding things from two years were they really married two
years ago? And she never unpacked her wedding stuff. Well,
she hasn't even taken the sticker off her fridge yet.
I don't like that. But but her, in her defense,
her kitchen is still under construction. You can see there's
a hole where the stove goes and there's no refuge
or no oven. So but are you somebody that when
(33:36):
you get something, because it really makes me.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Banana's like my my assistant, celest she has she's had
her car for over three years. And you know where
there's like the glove box and there it comes and
there's like the sticker that hangs in yes, but she
refuses to take it off anytime I get in her car.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'm like, can I please? Can I take this? What's
her meaning? That's just I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
She does it to like bug other people. She thinks
it's hilarious. So because it drives you think it's hilarious
about other people, than well, what in itself do we
not think that we bug other people? And we lean
into it, not by leaving stickers that need to be removed.
She probably still has her mattress sticker or tag on
there too. I can't even keep my tag. I can't stand.
(34:25):
You know when you get like a let's say you
get a new microwave, right, you know that little film
that goes over the front of the touch or even
like over your iPhone whatever, remove that you need to
remove that? Well, did you know that there's a case
that goes on the front of your phone.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So, like, my brother has one that looks like one
of those films, But what it actually does is protects
other people from seeing your text messages.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Oh I need one of those. So like it's like
a p so only you can see it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It makes it dark, so like anytime he's over, he'll
like be on his phone and I try to spy
it who he's texting, and it's completely dark. So I
just want to say, if your husband significant other, I
guess you're straight on eyes can see it, but if
you're trying to lurk from.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
The side, you can't. Oh I mean that's a red flash.
Can you put that on your LTK please? I'm gonna
link it. Link the protection mode. Link link it, link it,
link it with the cock.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Rings because the cock Rings is my best seller. Now,
oh good, Okay. Then Candice asked Giselle how he feels
about seeing old forehead ak Ashley and ankles.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
This didn't come off as funny. This no, no, no, no,
no no, that's just making fun.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Chris says he doesn't care and hasn't seen anyone since
New York. Chris says everyone will be high, so no
one will get angry upset.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
They're gonna who has a weed party? Is no weed?
But I think I know why. I think it was
it was illegal yet it was illegal. Well, it's legal,
but it's a legal issue to do it on camera.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, it hadn't, they said on camera that starting blah
blag date it was going to be legalized where they were,
So they're like getting ahead of the game.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh maybe in their state, maybe it's different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Uh. But then Giselle's comment about Chris's weight. Could you
imagine if roles were reversed in that situation.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
This is the thing. I disregard Candas's comment calling her
ankles because she just called Candas's has been fat. So
I'm like, that's a wash. Yeah, that's a wash. I
just was like, oh, why are we body shaming Chris
like this? Sous I honestly didn't notice that he gained weight,
(36:40):
but it happens to people. We gain weight, we lose weight,
we gain weight either way.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I wasn't checking out Chris beforehand, and I'm not checking
about As.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I like, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He is what it is, but like, don't be don't
be talking about his body Giselle.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Then Karen tells Mia she doesn't understand her response to
her invitation. Mia says she doesn't do second string invites.
Hold on, why was Karen's response You weren't even second string,
she was the backup.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I don't know. Was she trying to be rut like ruder.
It didn't make it. I think sometimes Karen just says
things like that just to get like the drama out
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Mia says she can't leave her kids so last minute,
and Karen says it was better than her boring ass life.
Mia calls Karen an old dog that she should find
some new tricks, and then Karen says, Mia is the trick.
Would you have responded the same way as Mia to
a secondary invite?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know, I don't have little kids, so you know
it's really hard to just drop everything and go the
next day. If that's how realistically it was. I mean
sometimes editing plays a part in it.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I mean, because if you haven't scheduled out your week,
yeah yeah, and you're told you're not asked to film this,
then you give yourself an open day.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And Mia has let us know she has lost the job,
she has lost the house, and she has lost the nanny.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, at this entire party, all I kept thinking was,
is Dwight gonna pop out and be like.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
A weed party with no weed? How dreadful? Dreadful? I
was like, I can't. Couldn't you roll a joint? I
probably could figure it out, but I haven't ever in
my life. Do you think we would need a class
to figure it out? Or we could just probably go
on I think I could go on YouTube. I think
(38:30):
that I could, you know. I mean, it's a paper,
you put thet I've seen people do it with the
stuff in the middle. You kind of shake it, then
you kind of roll it, and I don't you lick
it and fold it over. Yeah, but some people looked
really good. Some people some people's looked if I was
going to smoke a joint. I'm trying to think one
of them had like looked I would cough my brains
(38:52):
out if I snucked a giant.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, what about when Mia well to go on this date,
I may have needed to smoke a joint because Mia
and Gordon's day, they are taking their therapist advice to
spend more quality time together. You could tell the entire
time Mia was cringing on what Gordon was going to
share on camera. Mia says she got to the point
(39:16):
she was ready to divorce him. Clearly she got to
that point.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
U huh.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Or didn't ask how they could would handle divorce. Mia
says he would have given her a settlement. Gordon said no,
they'd still be together.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
What would find an arrangement? Did you take that as
the arrangement talk is like you could be with other people? Yes,
That's how I took it. And then MIA's face is like, huh, well,
because me is like, we already talked.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
This was what we were going to keep in our
in our insides, we weren't going to share on television.
But now you've just shared it with your loud voice,
not your quiet voice, And now we're in trouble, and
I'm gonna have to get myself out of the situation
that we are probably in an open marriage.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, well, what about when.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Gordon says he could find a deal that makes sense,
there's no need to split up. Me's no amount of
money to keep someone in captivity.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I don't know. I cringe watching this. You can tell
that she's so over him, and I feel like he's
over her too. I feel like they're both. I feel
like they clearly I mean from well, I wouldn't surprise
that they've already moved on and they're just not saying
it yet on camera. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, I mean, Karen brings that right to light once
they get to the unpacking party.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
But then Mekka.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Has all the girls over for this what do we
call an unpacking something a party?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Like No, but they do end up and unboxing as
if you're getting some surprise at the end on social media. Yeah,
this is the surprises.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You've helped me move into my new house that I've
been in for two months and didn't no unpacking for
Wendy's friend tells everyone that Wendy isn't coming because she
doesn't feel comfortable. Everyone says Wendy should have told Mecca herself.
Mekka says, it's fine, she's used to the disrespect.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh, Wendy's the problem. Meka keeps trying to move forward,
Wendy keeps moving backwards, trying to find reasons not to
like her, and I don't understand it, Like their issues
are not really that deep.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
No, And you can tell when Wendy is doing her
confessionals that she's calculating her answer to like really try
and it's just not fun. There's no lightness to it.
And I just to be honest, Wendy, move on from this.
I'm sure your mom's moved on from it. I just
(41:28):
I don't want to hear it anymore. Make up with
Neka or don't be on the show at this point, like,
we can't keep having people not show up to everything.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Even Robin shows up to everything. I know she does.
I like Robin, but Karen Man sometimes her words are
a little too harsh.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, Karen tells me that she never came after her
marriage when she heard she met up with a rapper.
Karen says she could have also said she's a married man.
Mia says, if you hear it once, it's a rumor.
If you hear it multiple times, it makes you wonder.
Mia says she's not screwing around. They're just hanging out.
Mia says the only married man she's had sex with
(42:06):
is Gordon.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Karen says that's why she didn't say anything. So I
don't understand Karen. So she's like, I didn't say this,
I could have said this, but now I'm saying this,
but yeah, you're only sleeping with your husband, which makes
me so passive aggressive it was I mean, clearly, I
think Karen.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Heard the rumors about Gordon and then was just waiting
for her perfect time to bring it up on camera,
which is why I would assume and Karen ke I
brought Mia onto this show. But then she wasn't even
one of the people you'd invite to your place, like she.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Was the backup. Would you know what I did like
about Mia? And when she did sit down Gordon Is,
She's like, let's not pretend that you had no part
in this business falling apart or being removed. In this business,
you have to take responsibility for your actions. So it
sounds like he did do something that was and he's like,
what what because they didn't agree with me, Like it
(43:03):
sounds like there's more to it, and she's upset about it. Well,
she's upset. She also lost her job because of something
he did.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, but then I did appreciate the women playing.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Never have I ever I am. I'm getting to the
point where I'm tired of seeing games on Housewave shows.
I feel like every year there's just like this fad
of doing things and this it seems like for the
past two year or so, it's been games.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But also the fact that we're making a screen shotted
photo a storyline Potomac weren't a bad way. Honestly, we
could go through my phone right now. I've screenshot so
much shit I do too.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
And like, like and it's.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Probably on my group text to Tameraman years.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
No, but I also screenshot, like when I'm looking at
social media and I see like a picture on my feed,
like if I want to see it closer up, I'll
screenshot it and then zoom in so I can see
because I have bad eyes. But I that I don't do.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
But that's my reason screenshot, I send links, I do whatever.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
But know what I don't do. I don't create folders
of other human beings. Well, I don't think. I don't
think that. She she I don't think she admitted to
making a folder. I think that was a question, do
you have it in a folder? She said yes. Oh
she did say yes, yes. I don't know how to
make folders. That's my problem. I would love to make folders,
(44:22):
but I just don't know how. And then her reasoning
saying that she.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That she likes Robin's parents, so that's probably why she's screenshots.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, she probably makes folders of screenshots and pictures because
you know, that's the way I use it at the reunion,
or but of all the pictures like I would get
if you were trying to like screenshot. Yeah, but maybe
it worth a commands shake at the laundry mat. But
maybe it was a caption that was said and that
who knows.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Maybe she was just lying and couldn't come up with
the live fast enough so she was like, yeah, sure, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
How I kind of thought it was. But either way,
there were parts of this episode that were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
But no one I'm missing because I was thinking about it, well,
good a good show. Well yeah, I'm missing a good show.
But I'm also missing and activated Ashley. Yeah, like every
episode now she's shown up in floral, happy, go lucky,
not causing any shit, just worrying about her.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, there's too much of a division in this cast,
which it concerns concerns me for New Jersey because I
have heard the grapevines that it was basically like filming
two different shows because the cast was split in half.
And I'm like, we're seeing it's not working on Potomac.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But yeah, I'm curious what will happen with Jersey as well,
because clearly this is not working when the cast is
two divided. Yeah, but well, thank you guys for tuning in.
We will be back later this week to talk all
things Beverly Hills in Miami.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Oh and benchines. And to answer y'all's question, I just
saw on my Insta story questions what me and Tamra
are not fighting? Wait did somebody say that? Oh, they
think that you're really pissed about popping off? You guys,
We have our own network.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
And keep listening, you guys, make it rain baby well,
tune in later this week. And then also a reminder,
you guys need to subscribe to listen to our Real
Housewives of Orange County flashback podcasts because we are just
getting into episod other episodes and yeah, we're.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Doing Orange County season two right now. I wanted to
skip right to season three because that's when I was
on and that's going to be interesting to watch because
I don't think I've ever went back and watched them.
It's fashion and this this tan that I had from
a tanning bed, the bleached white hair can't wait? All right,
(47:01):
thanks guys, MHM
Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And Tamra Judge. Hi, Teddy him, you had a very
sultry voice today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh it's because I'm on coffee and I really feel
pumped up.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh you do, Okay. I woke up for the first
time in a long time with like energy. Like yesterday,
I fell asleep in the middle of the day. I
never do that. I don't know what's going on. I
think I'm just just exhausted physically and mentally. Today it's
gonna be a good day. Today is going to be
a good day.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well that's good because we don't even have time to
recap what's going on from our weekends because we've got
to get right into the First Housewife headline, which involves you,
Tamera Shocker.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So this is from my page six article.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Vicky blames Tamra's assistant Cayden for traces Amiga's fallout. Tamera responds,
all right, break this entire thing down.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
First of all, she needs me very careful, Cayden. First
of all, has nothing to do with this. He's also
a private person because he is not a public person,
nor does he want to be. Does he does not
want to be on the show. I've asked him, I
begged him. He doesn't. So it's very disappointing that she
would blame a twenty four year old that is like
my lifeline. He helps me with everything. He helps me
(01:29):
with the podcast, he helps suit me, you know, with
my reels and things like that. With social media, he
doesn't answer my DMS. People are asking me, does he answer? No,
I answer my own DMS. But he helps me with
my social posts. He helps me with a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He's a great I have a question for you before
you launch into the next portion of this. Do you
think that Vicky truly just has a problem with any
person that you trust or you feel close to, like
she it's like a jealousy thing because I've seen it
happen one person after another.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And I'll tell you, I'll tell you what the stem
from is that when I was in Scotland, Kate would
Kayden would answer for me, and as far as trace
mega show that was coming up, he knew my thoughts,
he knew where I stood on everything and he said
something to her like I think it was like Tamra
does not feel comfortable doing this show, and she then
(02:21):
lost it. She accidentally was trying to text Shannon and
text Kayden and kind of went off about him and
I'm like, he's just oh.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
She like took a She was trying to go off
off to Shannon about Kayden, but she messaged it to Caitaen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yes, yes, so I am. I'm going to put my
readers onto this because I have it written down. I
have this is the correct timeline. I have screenshots, I
have receipts. Hold on, that's all. I was gonna say, Yeah,
I have shots, receipts, I have text message timeline, I
have it all. Okay. So basically to break it down,
(02:56):
they hired an agent. His name is Paris. When I
was headed Scotland, I didn't have anything to do with this.
The Phoenix show was after I got home from Scotland,
not prior to going to Scotland. Like Vicky said, I
told them that I did not want to do the
Phoenix show. I thought it was too soon after Shannon's duy,
that she needed to concentrate on her recovery. I was
trying to be a good friend. I wasn't concerned with
(03:18):
the Paris or you said this. I said this to
Vicky and Shannon, and I'll read the text message that
I wrote to them. Okay. They told me if I
did not do the show in Phoenix, they would get
sued because they signed a contract while I was in Scotland.
I did not sign a contract. I ended up doing
the show in Phoenix. After the first show, the three
(03:39):
of us plus the agent Paris had lunch and I
told them this was in Phoenix. I'm very busy. I'm
splitting my time between Orange County and my remodel in
Big Bear. I have three podcasts, being a CBD a family,
and I cannot travel every weekend. It's just not physically
possible for me. And they should probably find a backup
if they want to go on the road. I would
try to do as many shows as I can could,
(04:00):
but don't count on me. A couple weeks later, it
was basically the nail macoffin When I found it, they
were both talking behind the back, and how did you
find that out? Well? One a podcast to repeated things
that Vicky had told her. Another one was from a
friend that Shannon had told really nasty things about me.
(04:21):
Then I got a text from the agent asking me
if I was available to do a few shows in Texas,
and I declined. They did not ask me to do
more shows. I got the text message from the agent
asking me if I was interested in doing a show
in Texas. Again, they never ever, ever reached out to
me to ask me. They knew that I was upset.
They knew that I was mad. So for them for
(04:43):
Vicky to go on there and say that, you know,
she couldn't even reach out. They couldn't reach out to
ask me. I just responded to a text message. They
did not call me because they knew that I was mad.
They had Paris do it. Now they're trying to blame
it on my assistant Caden, which had absolutely nothing to
do with it. Let me just read you the text
message that I sent from the hospital. This is from
(05:05):
the hospital I got home from Scotland. We were supposed
to do a Phoenix show in the next month or so. Hi,
I'm home a second Phoenix show. No, A first one, Okay,
first one. Hi, I'm home from Scotland, but I'm in
the hospital. I would call you, but I have a
tube down my throat. I've been extremely sick for two weeks.
I'm waiting to see if I need surgery. We haven't
talked in so long. I hope you're doing better physically
(05:27):
and mentally. I know you're probably beating yourself up. I
thought long and hard about this, and I need to
be honest with you. I don't feel comfortable moving forward
with the Trace and Megas show next month. The comments
about you doing the show and me and Vicky supporting
it is horrible. It's not a good look for any
of us, especially you. Shannon Bravo has told me it's
not a good idea and we should postpone. It's just
(05:49):
too soon. I'm now getting messages comments that I'm an
alcoholic for continuing and supporting you with the show next month.
I'm sorry, but I just can't move forward with the show. Okay,
And what's that? What was that date? Do you have it?
That was October tenth? October tenth? And then at what
point in time?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because I know there was an additional situation with you
and Shannon post this where things got worse so that
you went and did the Phoenix show. November fifteenth and
sixteenth after and you guys can go back and listen
to our earlier podcast where actually Tamra tells us and
we have a conversation where she's like, I don't think
(06:30):
this is a good idea. I don't want to move forward.
And that was after she sent those original texts. So
then you go and do the show November fifteenth and sixteenth, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And then I had a falling out with Shannon, and
this was prior to Paris. The agent asking me if
I want to do the Phoenix show. Was Shannon drinking
at the November fifteenth and sixteenth show, Yes, she was,
So you already did Phoenix. We already did Phoenix. And
then what before Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You said you didn't want to move forward after Phoenix,
But then what happened?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I had to do Phoenix because they told me that
they signed a contract while I was in Scotland and
we would get sued if I did not follow through.
So I did it. There was two shows in Phoenix,
back to one on one day one the following day.
In between those two shows, we all sat down and
I explained to them that I'm extremely busy. I don't
(07:22):
have a lot of time, and I said earlier, all
the labeled will point all the things I had to do,
and they knew. I also at that time told them,
I said, I do want to let you know that
me and Teddy are doing a live for iHeart. It's
a one off. It's something that iHeart has put on.
So this is not in place of anything. This is
just something additional that what I have.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And also I want to point out if we do
more live shows, it will still be one off, so
I don't want people to come back and go Tamra
said that it was a one off, and it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Wasn't off at the time that that was booked, and
it still is. We don't have any plans at this
moment to go on the road. We don't. It was
our show successful. Absolutely, do we have plans to do more. No,
nothing on the books now. If one of the producers
comes to us and says, hey, I want you to
do a show there, we absolutely will do a show there. Yeah,
So that's what I want to point out.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But then there was an additional something that happened between
you and Shannon and you let Vicky know about it,
and then Vicky.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Kind of lost it. Right, like, remind me these details.
This was after the Phoenix show. This was November twenty second.
Remember ever twenty second, Shannon and I had a falling
out because she sent me a screenshot of liking Alexis's post. Okay,
I'm not going to go into detail because this clearly
(08:42):
will be part of the show, but that's where things
went bad November twenty second. And to be clear, this
was not a post of Alexis and John. This is
just no. It was about her kid's freaking birthday. So
that was November twenty second, and Paris text me December
eighth asking me so for them to say that I
(09:05):
did not reach out them and tell them they knew
that I wasn't happy. Vicky went on to say something
sharing some personal information about me, about my house in
Big Bear, about my contract with Bravo to a podcaster
that repeated it. They also said that Vicky told them
that the only reason they're with me is because it's
(09:26):
a business deal, not that they we're friends. So that
was really the nail in the coffin. At first, I
was like, listen, guys, I don't have the time. Maybe
need to find it back up. I'll try my best
and then after I heard that that was just the
complete nail in the coffin. So you know, Vicky went
on Jeff Lewis Live. I literally called Jeff two days
ago like crying. I said, I can't take this anymore.
How can you allow hold one moment before we get
(09:48):
into your conversation with Jeff.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
These are some of the allegations that Vicky made on
Jeff Lewis. She was on Jeff Loui's Live last Friday.
Vicky said, from what I hear, she said, we were
talking about her behind her back. Gumbelson insisted that she
wasn't talking badly about Judge behind her back, joking, it
was actually kind of in front of her.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think it's Kayden.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
She speculated he was hearing things from Shannon's and sending
it over to Tama Tamra. He's a troublemaker. Vicki also
said Judge had an issue with Beador's twenty twenty three
hit and run DUI arrest, even though one has nothing
to do with the other. But I have to be clear,
if someone continues to continue drinking in your presence and
(10:30):
it's in a situation where you love that person, you
care about that person and you feel like this is
in a healthy spot for them, then I do think
one has to do with the other.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Then you went on to your stories. This is this
is why I can't go out of town, Tamra. Yeah,
like we can.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You and I cannot be trusted to us and the
stories without talking to one another. She goes on her stories.
It's an absolute blatant lie, judge claim. The reason I
am not doing the trays and megage is because I
caught them talking.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I had on my back.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's why it pisses me off to no end, because
he's the sweetest guy and he does so much for me.
She continued, adding that Cayden has also previously helped the door,
so this is bullshit and don't listen to Vicky's lives.
And I can say from one hundred percent, my recollection
was that every time I saw Vicky or Shannon and
(11:18):
Caden's presence, they sought after him to talk to him
and chat with him. Shannon, I mean even at Bravo Coon.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But let me just tell you, when Phoenix Show came,
Shannon said, and I have a text message. We need
to bring Kayden. We need to bring Kayden. He helps
us out so much. And I said, okay. She goes, well,
I'm going to buy him a ticket and I said, well,
i'll split the flight because Cayden lives in a different state.
I'll split that with you if you want him there
so much. It wasn't my idea, and he's my assistant. Now.
(11:46):
Now what happened was is you know he she saw
what a great person Kayden is and she said, God,
I need somebody to help me with my social media.
And here I am trying to help Caden out and say, listen,
why don't you help her post her social media, more
interaction on there because he's really good at it, and
see if she'll pay you. And so he asked, and
she said yes. When we were in Phoenix, she we
(12:09):
were sitting at the table and by the way, Cayden
was at the table, the lunch table where we are
with the agent, and I told him that I don't
know how much time I could give to this. And
Vicki said at that table that she was firing her
social media manager, that she was looking for someone else,
and told Kayden that she would like to talk to him.
That conversation never happened. But Cayden has multiple DMS and
(12:32):
text messages Kate, can you help me with this? Kin?
Can you help me with that? Kate? And something about
her account her Facebook count got hacked and he tried
to help her with that. So if he's so bad,
why is she reaching out for his help?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And I had something else that I want to point
out in the world of social media and going on
a podcast to speak about somebody that is not in
this world like that is when so any time I
hire anyone, and same goes for most people and any
kind of public eye, you have them sign an NDA.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yep. So that means that person cannot.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So if somebody else is coming out and speaking lives
about them, you cannot. Essentially, like the way that you
and I can defend each other ourselves, you can't. You
can't necessarily do that and you can't show your timeline, receipts,
messages all that stuff. So all what Vicky's doing is
(13:31):
actually cruel.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh I know, because.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, he hasn't signed an NDA with Vicky, but saying
all that stuff about Shannon just puts him in a
place that it's not right.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's not right, it's not right, and it's complete lie.
So you know, I was upset. I went on my
social media because he is like a son to both
me and Eddie. In fact, we have a group text
with me, Eddie, and Cayden in that titled the Other Son.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, so I mean she obviously felt that way too,
because I remember seeing on social media that Kayden helped
Shannon move into her new place with Taylor.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Thank you, thank you. Well, this is the problem. They
know that they've been caught. They don't want to take accountability,
like oftentimes they don't take accountability.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So tell me about your conversation with Jeff, because I'm
actually going on Jeff Lewis in a couple of weeks
with Emily to.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Talk about popping off yea again. I want to be prepped. Well,
I called him and he said, I'll call you back.
In fifteen minutes, he called me and we started talking
about it, and I was just crying. So I can't
take this anymore. You know, I'm constantly You're having people
that go on your radio show that just blatantly lie
about me. What we know Vicky has a problem with
(14:43):
the truth, and what she said was a complete lie.
I am tired of trying to defend myself. I've only
done the right thing. I've only tried to Like, I
didn't want to do the show, not just because it
wasn't a good look for me, it wasn't a good
look for Shannon. Yeah, you know, and I want my
friend to get help at the time, like, and I
still want to get help, and going and doing this
was not the way to do it. It was too soon.
(15:05):
And what did Jeff say in resus? He goes, I
get it, I get it, but you can't go on
your social media and yell. And I'm like, oh, rich
coming from you, and I'm like, I'm not yelling. I
was stating the facts. And it's upsetting to me. You
were frustrated and you wanted to get the truth out.
I mean, let's just talk about Vicky's timeline on there.
Vicky said, we did the Phoenix Show and then I
went on to Scotland and had second thoughts. That's a lie.
(15:28):
I was in Scotland September October. The Phoenix Show wasn't
until November. Vicky says, I never told them I wanted
out of the trace and make a show and feels
I should have a reach out to them first. I
told them in person that I wasn't really available to
do a lot of shows. They might need to get
a backup. And then after I found out they were
talking about me, it became a problem between the three
of us, and then they didn't even reach out to me.
(15:49):
Paris reached out to me. Well, even before that, you
had told them right after the DUI that you did
not want to You did not think it was a
good idea, right, Well, I told him I got home
from Scotland, so I found out about the DOUI the
day I left for Scotland, so I didn't have a phone,
so I wasn't able to communicate, so I told them.
You know, Vicky says she didn't talk behind my back
(16:10):
and that it was in front of me. Vicky, you
literally told someone who I won't name, private information, told
that person that was related to that repeated on her podcast, like,
don't tell me you didn't talk beyond me back. What
she said wasn't as bad is what the other one said,
Shannon said, So I don't think she even really knows
all of it. Vicky thinks it came from Cayden cousin issues.
(16:31):
Why would it come from Caayden, do am I controlled
by a twenty four year old? Am I controlled by anybody? No?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I know which friend told you, and it wasn't Kayden.
You guys, So I just think this is one of
those situations where it could have been handled so differently.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Let's do a hypothetical here. Two teams in a pod already.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Existed before your very first live show with Shannon and Vicky.
Not for one second did I go out and try
to trash that show what was happening, But because I
want to support you and all of your endeavors, because
that's what friends do, and.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what I told I told Chet that on the
phone too. I said, these fools don't support anything. They
are so insanely jealous of my success. Teddy is a
true friend, and they just want to keep and not chanting.
But Vicky always wants to rip you down, just like
she wants rip you down because you're close to me,
she wants to rip paid down because he's close to me.
I'm tired of it, and to say that, I need
(17:37):
to say I'm sorry to her. I own apology for
what what did I do? What did I do? I
think she just I didn't want to keep. Yeah, I
didn't want to continue. Like if I told you, told
you or the agent to day that I didn't want
to continue with this podcast, are you gonna hate me? No?
No exactly. It's just they're just it's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Business and if it's not suiting you and it's not
giving you and you're not enjoying it, and you're like,
and let's be clear, you're not under a contract.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Right, I'm not under a contract. In fact, that Vicky
and Shannon argued the entire time doing the show, even
at lunch, they were arguing, and I'm like, this is
so toxic. I don't want to do this. Yeah, they
were outed. You know. I think the point.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Is all of us just bullshit, and Vicky's looking for
attention and let's hope that their show does well so
maybe they can move on from coming at Tamra because
this is Billy.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This is ridiculous. But you know what, they rebranded themselves.
They were smart about it. They you know, they could
have bought just a third person in, but they probably
don't have any other friends, so they wi did their
well true bring another I mean in the show was
already created. Do that. I mean they were pushing me
to do LLC the bank account they were getting like
(18:54):
I wouldn't. It was hesitant, hesidand hesitant because I knew
that this just didn't suit me. It wasn't. It was
so I already have so much on my plate.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean, I love you, Tam, but I don't
want to share a bank account with you, and you
don't want to share a bank account with me either.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That is, I I did not want to connect my
LLC to something that they were involved in. If you don't, yeah, no,
then you're held liable.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's absolutely bananas. But I'm glad we got it on
the record on it was that happened.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Very upsetting to me. And just to think that, I mean,
I'm not shocked that she can go on there and
just completely lie about the timeline everything.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm actually not shocked because this is her mo is.
She does her best to make other people seem like
they are bad people, when originally she is the one
to start all of the dramas. So this just lines
up to exactly who I have always thought that Vicky is.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So she's just doubling down. All right, Well, let's get
onto our first headline, which is actually a very sad one.
I know, don't you think. I mean, I don't know
(20:09):
too many housewives that have left after fourteen years. I
don't think there's been any. I think that. I think
we had one that left after ten. But Candy Burr
says she's leaving the Real House with Milana. I'm going
to take a break. Speaking to Variety on the carpet
at the Grammys, Candy's confirmed when asked about the show,
I'm not keeping up. I already said it, so I'll
(20:29):
tell you. I decided I'm not coming back this year.
It's been fourteen seasons and they allowed us to sit
around for a little too long. But during that time,
I had started working on a lot of other things
and I got some nice big projects coming. The only
thing that like, I know for a fact that she
did quit, But there seems to be a little bit
of shade there where she says we sat it around
(20:51):
a little too long.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So what she's saying is after Atlanta ended, before they
picked up the next season, before they all got their
offer letters.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Before that. It was only it was in September, So
that's oh, well, I'm used to the big separation we had.
Do you know that Orange County didn't even film in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, I know, but I think there was such for
that particular show.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I think it was a lot, so they must have
had a quick turnover. We've always had like three months.
We got our offer letter a week or so prior
to filming, and our reunion was in October? Was it October?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So essentially they're trying to figure out what's going on
with Atlanta. In Candy's opinion, she was waiting around too
long and then she just figured out other things to do.
She you know, made sure that she was going to
make her money and do things in her career that
she wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And now now she's gone, and now I'm curious what
they will do moving forward.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Does this mean they're going to hire somebody back that
was on for quite a long time because now this
freeze up? I mean, Candy's probably one of the most
paid housewives.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Correct, Yeah, would imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I also, can can you remind me of this was
candy last seat at the reunion this year? I don't know, Yes, yes,
so I think, you know, even though we're like, you know,
she still had a big part of this season. I
think she was starting to check out even last year,
because that's not well last.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Year's she I think she kind of checked out. And
I'll be honest with you, you're twelve. I was checked
out a bit like twelve years straight of doing the show,
and hindsight being off of two years. Was it was good?
It recharged me?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I mean I think every long housewife, long standing housewife,
needs a breakthrough too.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think I told Andy that too, because it kind
of just recharges you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But then she said, you know what, I'm I'm going
to take a break. I'm going to take a moment.
I'm not going to come back this year though, Like
she made it clear like a break didn't maybe like
a couple of weeks and then.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Blah blah blah. Okay, now we go right into the
next one.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
But I am curious who Atlanta will bring on and
so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I just I'm curious to see, like if she's gone,
if they're going to bring Porscha back. I mean, I
know they're probably gonna be the patris On married to medicine.
I mean, it's possible that she could do both. It
is possible she could do both. I wonder if I
don't know. Do you think that Andy would do that?
I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know
(23:22):
what Prava does.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And we think that Phaedra would come in and really
stirred up like she used to.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I feel like she's kind of past that now I
have I don't know. I don't watch Married to Medicine,
so I don't know how she is on that show.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, she always gives the best confessionals no matter what,
no matter if it's Trader's Girls, Trip, whatever, But it
feels like that she has her boundaries now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
So who knows.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
But I think she's great television, and so does Cruise.
He loves her on Traders.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
She's really even my mom's like that FAJR girl's so sweet.
I can't believe she'd murdered you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, I guess Phaedra's a little bit messy on
Married to Medicine, But I don't know. I think it's
just as different depending on the show. This next one
is Candace Dillard. Bassett is grateful for common sense as
Michael Darby's defamation lawsuit is dismissed. This is from People Magazine.
A judge has dismissed the defamation lawsuit Candace was facing
(24:20):
for Michael Darby. Michael, the court determined, was precluded from
maintaining a lawsuit against Candace based on a release that
he signed to appear on a Bravo reality series. Candace
has remained mum about the suit on the show, but
now that it's over, she's breaking her silence. I'm incredibly
grateful to God for protecting me. I'm also grateful for
common sense, the support of my family, and my incredible
(24:41):
legal team for helping the plaintiff to get to exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What he deserves for me. Absolutely missing good. But I'm
sure it cost her a pretty penny just defending herself.
And that's the problem with these our legal system in
this lawsuit that she could have paid two hundred thousand
easy just an attorney fees. I have to say, if
she does, I hope she gets them back. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
This next one is Anne Marie's Instagram story. It's pretty
much she's getting a lot of questions, so she wants
to clarify the title nurse anesthesiologists was adopted by the
American a whole bunch of information. I'm so over this.
I'm so over it. But then like doctor Tiffany Moon,
(25:25):
but she chimes in the ASA doesn't not love CRNAs
or care that you're on a reality show bringing more
attention to your profession. They care when CRNA's misrepresent themselves
as physicians or use terminology to intentionally mislead the public
to believe that they are anesthesiologists. Don't make this into
(25:46):
a CRNA verse MD thing. I have a misrespect for
my CRNA colleagues, just not the ones who call themselves anesthesiologists.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh my god. Okay, and that came from pink pox box. Wow, Okay,
over it. I just feel like I want to put
it to bed.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
As an Anna Marie's post, she she's linked nurse.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And a phesiologist.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I think what concerns me about what Tiffany Moon is
saying is that she's working on getting Anna Marie off
the show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Does that mean she's coming for her.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Like her CRNA license and trying to get them to
pressure her to not be on the show. Like, I
don't like the way this is because she's now currently
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They were canceled, so what is she doing? And I
mean that's just really evil spirited to say that I'm
working on getting her off the show. First of all,
you have no authority at all to get anybody off
the show. You're not even on a show, So sit down,
Tiffany Moon. Yeah, calm down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And then Crystal was on E and Queens of Bravo
posted this link talking about Anne Marie. Crystal says, I
just think this is who she is. HER's the line
that I'm jealous because I was clear I wanted to
go to medical school and become a surgeon, and she
went to nursing school.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That's who she is.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, no one is jealous of Anna Mary's life. Crystal
wrote on Instagram about dreet By, don't borrow diamonds from
your wife. I usually don't clap back on social media,
but when you take it too far, like my marriage,
I'm going to protect him and I feel good about it.
That's because dree said that Crystal was a child bride
in her confessional, So that's her clapback, I guess. And
(27:31):
then Crystal says she called out Erica at the reunion
for only mentioning her about the diamond earringe. She also
plans to watch part two of the Housewife and the Hustler,
she plugged that.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Then, Crystal says, Kathy Hilton brought a lightness and comedic
relief to the reunion, and hope she.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Comes back to the show next season. Okay, okay, okay, Kristin, Okay, Wes,
I know Camille Grammer thinks Caroline Manzo has things too
far with the lawsuit. We all think Caroline has gone
too far with this lawsuit. I wasn't in the bathroom
when the so called alleged event happened. What I did
(28:10):
see was the two ladies laughing and getting along. Emil,
I don't think, well, I think that she's trying to
support Brandy, which I totally understand. But when it does
come to lawsuits, it's just best to stay out of
it because the more you talk about it, the more
you're going to be drugged into it. And even if
(28:31):
you're a witness, so you get proposed, you know, sometimes
you have to hire attorney.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But also if you're going to say I wasn't in
the bathroom, it essentially what we've read that you can't
say that.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Just say like, I wish this would come out so
we could all see the full truth. Yeah, this I
didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Kenya Moore says a Real Housewive Atlanta cast announcement as
getting closer the love be Scart article. Kenya hinted that
a cast announcement maybe coming soon, but remain coy as
to whether or not she or any of the ladies
will be a part of it. Kenya also squash fans
hope for a Nini Leek's return, reminding fans the fact
that she sued her employer and accused them of awful things.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, I don't see Nanni coming back ever because of that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Then did you see this next thing? And do we
believe it at all? Because lu Ane leaves kind of
a cryptic comment.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So word on.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
The street is this could be your next Real Housewives
of New York cast and it's Derenda bren Luyne, Sonya
Aaron Jessel uba Uba.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I am hearing from a very reliable source that this
is absolutely not the case. Then it is possible that
one of the original housewives put that out there to
get that going. And there is an announcement I think
coming out today about somebody that is returning that we
didn't expect to return.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, do you think it's gonna be Jennifer Lyons maybe,
uh see, I mean I think it's gotta be. I mean,
I don't think it could be Tinsley. I don't think
she's going to change up her life with her current
husband though.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
No, no, no, no, I don't think so, I don't.
I don't think it's Bethany. Well, let's let's continue on
blowing through.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But I do think that uh Luanne added a little
fuel to the fire by doing this emoji.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Let me see if I can emoji. You do hers,
you do one, I'll do one. Okay, Yeah, it's it's
not true from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So yeah, and this next when we will get into
more as we talk about Potomac. But I did do
(31:06):
a little recon on Mia Thornton's new man Incognito.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
No, I wasn't being incognito. That is his name.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He is a radio personality currently on the nationally syndicated
show Posted on the Corner, which airs on Hot one
O seven point nine in Atlanta among other cities. On
a post date of January second, twenty twenty four, he
shared a photo with Mia, captioning Queen Today a special
Miss Mia Thornton. It's been two decades since we celebrated
my birthday together. If only the world could see how
(31:37):
we brought it in loll cheers, tour happily ever after.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
So they've known each other for a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It looks like, Yeah, they met in high school and
dated for three and a half years. Oh and then
MIA's hashtag on her post with him where she's kind
of like straddling him getting out of the car is
hashtag wifey mom, lover almost fiance.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Wow. I don't know how many other people hashtag that.
It's like that a popular hashtag. I don't know, I'm
not sure. Well, this rolls us right into Real Housewives
of Potomac recap.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, at this point, I feel like Giselle's daughter must
be in the editing room because there was no need
for that flashback where they drag the name GNA and
remind us that they're gonna keep the extra coverage for
your vagina.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, this guy. They really like to talk about stuff
going on down there a lot. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Then Necca says it was nice of Wendy to invite
her to Eddie's event. Levy tells Neca to be cautious
because it will be her turf. Nekka says she wants
to see if they can move past their differences.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
If you were Meka, would you go to Wendy's event? Yes,
yes I would because every episode this season there's been
somebody not attending or somebody not being invited, and that
is not how you produce a good show.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Also, Mecca, I just want to tell you as you
plan for this event that you're going to have not one.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I can teach you a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
About how to not make friends, and that's to have
them come over and unpack your.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Wedding things from two years were they really married two
years ago? And she never unpacked her wedding stuff. Well,
she hasn't even taken the sticker off her fridge yet.
I don't like that. But but her, in her defense,
her kitchen is still under construction. You can see there's
a hole where the stove goes and there's no refuge
or no oven. So but are you somebody that when
(33:36):
you get something, because it really makes me.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Banana's like my my assistant, celest she has she's had
her car for over three years. And you know where
there's like the glove box and there it comes and
there's like the sticker that hangs in yes, but she
refuses to take it off anytime I get in her car.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'm like, can I please? Can I take this? What's
her meaning? That's just I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
She does it to like bug other people. She thinks
it's hilarious. So because it drives you think it's hilarious
about other people, than well, what in itself do we
not think that we bug other people? And we lean
into it, not by leaving stickers that need to be removed.
She probably still has her mattress sticker or tag on
there too. I can't even keep my tag. I can't stand.
(34:25):
You know when you get like a let's say you
get a new microwave, right, you know that little film
that goes over the front of the touch or even
like over your iPhone whatever, remove that you need to
remove that? Well, did you know that there's a case
that goes on the front of your phone.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So, like, my brother has one that looks like one
of those films, But what it actually does is protects
other people from seeing your text messages.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Oh I need one of those. So like it's like
a p so only you can see it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It makes it dark, so like anytime he's over, he'll
like be on his phone and I try to spy
it who he's texting, and it's completely dark. So I
just want to say, if your husband significant other, I
guess you're straight on eyes can see it, but if
you're trying to lurk from.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
The side, you can't. Oh I mean that's a red flash.
Can you put that on your LTK please? I'm gonna
link it. Link the protection mode. Link link it, link it,
link it with the cock.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Rings because the cock Rings is my best seller. Now,
oh good, Okay. Then Candice asked Giselle how he feels
about seeing old forehead ak Ashley and ankles.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
This didn't come off as funny. This no, no, no, no,
no no, that's just making fun.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Chris says he doesn't care and hasn't seen anyone since
New York. Chris says everyone will be high, so no
one will get angry upset.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
They're gonna who has a weed party? Is no weed?
But I think I know why. I think it was
it was illegal yet it was illegal. Well, it's legal,
but it's a legal issue to do it on camera.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, it hadn't, they said on camera that starting blah
blag date it was going to be legalized where they were,
So they're like getting ahead of the game.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh maybe in their state, maybe it's different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Uh. But then Giselle's comment about Chris's weight. Could you
imagine if roles were reversed in that situation.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
This is the thing. I disregard Candas's comment calling her
ankles because she just called Candas's has been fat. So
I'm like, that's a wash. Yeah, that's a wash. I
just was like, oh, why are we body shaming Chris
like this? Sous I honestly didn't notice that he gained weight,
(36:40):
but it happens to people. We gain weight, we lose weight,
we gain weight either way.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I wasn't checking out Chris beforehand, and I'm not checking
about As.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I like, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He is what it is, but like, don't be don't
be talking about his body Giselle.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Then Karen tells Mia she doesn't understand her response to
her invitation. Mia says she doesn't do second string invites.
Hold on, why was Karen's response You weren't even second string,
she was the backup.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I don't know. Was she trying to be rut like ruder.
It didn't make it. I think sometimes Karen just says
things like that just to get like the drama out
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Mia says she can't leave her kids so last minute,
and Karen says it was better than her boring ass life.
Mia calls Karen an old dog that she should find
some new tricks, and then Karen says, Mia is the trick.
Would you have responded the same way as Mia to
a secondary invite?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know, I don't have little kids, so you know
it's really hard to just drop everything and go the
next day. If that's how realistically it was. I mean
sometimes editing plays a part in it.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I mean, because if you haven't scheduled out your week,
yeah yeah, and you're told you're not asked to film this,
then you give yourself an open day.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And Mia has let us know she has lost the job,
she has lost the house, and she has lost the nanny.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, at this entire party, all I kept thinking was,
is Dwight gonna pop out and be like.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
A weed party with no weed? How dreadful? Dreadful? I
was like, I can't. Couldn't you roll a joint? I
probably could figure it out, but I haven't ever in
my life. Do you think we would need a class
to figure it out? Or we could just probably go
on I think I could go on YouTube. I think
(38:30):
that I could, you know. I mean, it's a paper,
you put thet I've seen people do it with the
stuff in the middle. You kind of shake it, then
you kind of roll it, and I don't you lick
it and fold it over. Yeah, but some people looked
really good. Some people some people's looked if I was
going to smoke a joint. I'm trying to think one
of them had like looked I would cough my brains
(38:52):
out if I snucked a giant.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, what about when Mia well to go on this date,
I may have needed to smoke a joint because Mia
and Gordon's day, they are taking their therapist advice to
spend more quality time together. You could tell the entire
time Mia was cringing on what Gordon was going to
share on camera. Mia says she got to the point
(39:16):
she was ready to divorce him. Clearly she got to
that point.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
U huh.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Or didn't ask how they could would handle divorce. Mia
says he would have given her a settlement. Gordon said no,
they'd still be together.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
What would find an arrangement? Did you take that as
the arrangement talk is like you could be with other people? Yes,
That's how I took it. And then MIA's face is like, huh, well,
because me is like, we already talked.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
This was what we were going to keep in our
in our insides, we weren't going to share on television.
But now you've just shared it with your loud voice,
not your quiet voice, And now we're in trouble, and
I'm gonna have to get myself out of the situation
that we are probably in an open marriage.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, well, what about when.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Gordon says he could find a deal that makes sense,
there's no need to split up. Me's no amount of
money to keep someone in captivity.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I don't know. I cringe watching this. You can tell
that she's so over him, and I feel like he's
over her too. I feel like they're both. I feel
like they clearly I mean from well, I wouldn't surprise
that they've already moved on and they're just not saying
it yet on camera. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, I mean, Karen brings that right to light once
they get to the unpacking party.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
But then Mekka.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Has all the girls over for this what do we
call an unpacking something a party?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Like No, but they do end up and unboxing as
if you're getting some surprise at the end on social media. Yeah,
this is the surprises.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You've helped me move into my new house that I've
been in for two months and didn't no unpacking for
Wendy's friend tells everyone that Wendy isn't coming because she
doesn't feel comfortable. Everyone says Wendy should have told Mecca herself.
Mekka says, it's fine, she's used to the disrespect.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh, Wendy's the problem. Meka keeps trying to move forward,
Wendy keeps moving backwards, trying to find reasons not to
like her, and I don't understand it, Like their issues
are not really that deep.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
No, And you can tell when Wendy is doing her
confessionals that she's calculating her answer to like really try
and it's just not fun. There's no lightness to it.
And I just to be honest, Wendy, move on from this.
I'm sure your mom's moved on from it. I just
(41:28):
I don't want to hear it anymore. Make up with
Neka or don't be on the show at this point, like,
we can't keep having people not show up to everything.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Even Robin shows up to everything. I know she does.
I like Robin, but Karen Man sometimes her words are
a little too harsh.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, Karen tells me that she never came after her
marriage when she heard she met up with a rapper.
Karen says she could have also said she's a married man.
Mia says, if you hear it once, it's a rumor.
If you hear it multiple times, it makes you wonder.
Mia says she's not screwing around. They're just hanging out.
Mia says the only married man she's had sex with
(42:06):
is Gordon.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Karen says that's why she didn't say anything. So I
don't understand Karen. So she's like, I didn't say this,
I could have said this, but now I'm saying this,
but yeah, you're only sleeping with your husband, which makes
me so passive aggressive it was I mean, clearly, I
think Karen.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Heard the rumors about Gordon and then was just waiting
for her perfect time to bring it up on camera,
which is why I would assume and Karen ke I
brought Mia onto this show. But then she wasn't even
one of the people you'd invite to your place, like she.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Was the backup. Would you know what I did like
about Mia? And when she did sit down Gordon Is,
She's like, let's not pretend that you had no part
in this business falling apart or being removed. In this business,
you have to take responsibility for your actions. So it
sounds like he did do something that was and he's like,
what what because they didn't agree with me, Like it
(43:03):
sounds like there's more to it, and she's upset about it. Well,
she's upset. She also lost her job because of something
he did.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, but then I did appreciate the women playing.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Never have I ever I am. I'm getting to the
point where I'm tired of seeing games on Housewave shows.
I feel like every year there's just like this fad
of doing things and this it seems like for the
past two year or so, it's been games.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But also the fact that we're making a screen shotted
photo a storyline Potomac weren't a bad way. Honestly, we
could go through my phone right now. I've screenshot so
much shit I do too.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
And like, like and it's.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Probably on my group text to Tameraman years.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
No, but I also screenshot, like when I'm looking at
social media and I see like a picture on my feed,
like if I want to see it closer up, I'll
screenshot it and then zoom in so I can see
because I have bad eyes. But I that I don't do.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
But that's my reason screenshot, I send links, I do whatever.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
But know what I don't do. I don't create folders
of other human beings. Well, I don't think. I don't
think that. She she I don't think she admitted to
making a folder. I think that was a question, do
you have it in a folder? She said yes. Oh
she did say yes, yes. I don't know how to
make folders. That's my problem. I would love to make folders,
(44:22):
but I just don't know how. And then her reasoning
saying that she.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That she likes Robin's parents, so that's probably why she's screenshots.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, she probably makes folders of screenshots and pictures because
you know, that's the way I use it at the reunion,
or but of all the pictures like I would get
if you were trying to like screenshot. Yeah, but maybe
it worth a commands shake at the laundry mat. But
maybe it was a caption that was said and that
who knows.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Maybe she was just lying and couldn't come up with
the live fast enough so she was like, yeah, sure, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
How I kind of thought it was. But either way,
there were parts of this episode that were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
But no one I'm missing because I was thinking about it, well,
good a good show. Well yeah, I'm missing a good show.
But I'm also missing and activated Ashley. Yeah, like every
episode now she's shown up in floral, happy, go lucky,
not causing any shit, just worrying about her.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, there's too much of a division in this cast,
which it concerns concerns me for New Jersey because I
have heard the grapevines that it was basically like filming
two different shows because the cast was split in half.
And I'm like, we're seeing it's not working on Potomac.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But yeah, I'm curious what will happen with Jersey as well,
because clearly this is not working when the cast is
two divided. Yeah, but well, thank you guys for tuning in.
We will be back later this week to talk all
things Beverly Hills in Miami.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Oh and benchines. And to answer y'all's question, I just
saw on my Insta story questions what me and Tamra
are not fighting? Wait did somebody say that? Oh, they
think that you're really pissed about popping off? You guys,
We have our own network.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
And keep listening, you guys, make it rain baby well,
tune in later this week. And then also a reminder,
you guys need to subscribe to listen to our Real
Housewives of Orange County flashback podcasts because we are just
getting into episod other episodes and yeah, we're.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Doing Orange County season two right now. I wanted to
skip right to season three because that's when I was
on and that's going to be interesting to watch because
I don't think I've ever went back and watched them.
It's fashion and this this tan that I had from
a tanning bed, the bleached white hair can't wait? All right,
(47:01):
thanks guys, MHM
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