May 19, 2023 • 50 mins
The King is here dishing everything!! Everything!!
Tamra and Teddi confront Andy for firing them.
Lisa Rinna, Teresa Guidice, Kyle Richards, LVP, Mary Cosby, Denise Richards, Caroline Manzo, Garcelle Beauvais, Kim Zolciak, Phaedra Parks, John Mayer… we’re talking about it ALL.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, y'all, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We are back Andy Cohen part two, and we're going
to talk a little bit about my favorite topic, cameras
and obviously Andy's as well, because Camra was mentioned more
than any other housewife and Andy's book forty times.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But now I know it's because they made out. We
can't say hook. Oh my god, that has nothing to
do with it.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I think that really was number two. Let me let's
guest Rina.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
No, really, somebody that calls you a lot, now Bey
in your book you say multiple times called me, No,
you're Grisa.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, so Teresa, So it's camera at forty times.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes, in the body time Teresa thirty one times. Garcel
I was surprised by this one because I did know
you guys were as close and.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Twenty six times.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We were in can together with Dorri, right, but only
got thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I was a little jealous of that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So I was like, still, garcel I mean, you talked her,
talked with her through the reunion Renna twenty three times,
even throughout a pause, so I was like, she still
got above Renna twenty six, Bethany twenty two times, Vicki
twenty one, Kyle seventeen, Jinshaw sixteen, Erica fifteen, Jill fourteen times.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What could you Jill?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Jill, Well, it was all about me kind of reprimanding
her and her being in trouble, I announcing that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I really feel like I was announced.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I was talked about the most because it was during
the time where they were.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That is why it was. It was still July. It
was July. The month of July was a big time.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I would have appreciated being talked about six times because
then I would have been with Marlowe and Phedra instead
of Teddy and had their bro at five times.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh my god, I'm sorry, Shannon. You're all about what's
happened in his life days right by the way. You
totally inspired me.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And today I woke up and I wrote you know
the date, and I just talked about how.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Really a book. No, I'm not going to write a book.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I'm not going to write a book, but I thought
it was a really good thing that you can you know,
I mean, your journals have been around forever, but but
just something for your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It kind of replaced kind of replaced having a shrink
for me in a whey yeah way, because I felt
like I needed to figure out what I was feeling.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Your book is such a cool concept, and it really
is an easy read because it's really broken down todays.
It's basically a diary, and you talk about I mean,
I know that Ben gets up at seven am every morning.
I know that it's a struggle to put his gloves on.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I figured it out.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I know that watcha who you know Pete on
the floor when you brought Ben home and Ben, Yeah,
return the favor.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, we know that. We know that Ben wished or
was a cat? Yes, yes, kidding.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh, by the way, I wanted to text the other day.
I thought i'd say today. So our dog died July fourth,
and Sophia was very attached to the dog. In one
another animal, she wanted a cat and it is allergic
to cats. So we got a blue Russian and he's
not allergic to it. We actually had production guys come
into the house that loved cats and they're allergic and
(03:24):
they got it cat in their face and everything, and
they all told.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Me nothing, are they bald cats.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They're beautiful cats.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
In fact, Heather Debro's daughter recently got one as well
to take to her dorm room.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So they're beautiful cats.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I want to see a picture of Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Cats and good cats and just they're they're great. They're
all grey, they're cute, beautiful cat if you so, if
you need a cat, okay, just telling. Yeah, it's good news.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, now we're going through. We're color highlighted here.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So what is your all time favorite moment of camera
on Real Household County?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That is so hard?
Speaker 6 (04:01):
No, I mean, he's no, I'm gay.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's really hard.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think, I think, I mean, I don't know if
I could say one actual moment, but I would say
that just the arc of you splitting from Simon and
then finding.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Love, I think is it speaks.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
To this show and specifically your show, how much time
you've been on it and how much has happened.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
If you inspire me, I would have been the longest lasting.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Wow, thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
We're not budd All years consecutive doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's yes, No, it's years.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I'm sorry, Oh that's not true.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, Okay, what it was your favorite moment of Teddy,
He's like, holy hill, yeah didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's why she's gone.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
When she there was a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What were you and Dorry getting into it about at
the Elton joke at the Boy George concert at the
Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh weren't you?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know why I got so p K had
made a joke to Kyle something along the line. I
forget what it was, but we all decided it wasn't
a joke, right, and I said something about British humor,
and she was like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't know that that's my favorite moment, but it's something
for some reason that just I.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Thought maybe it was the moment where you exposed Brandy
and Den sleeping together.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh well, that's what I like.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
What I like about Teddy is that she is very unafraid.
I mean she just yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't really have a fear when it
comes to driving.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Can't drive.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I got all excited in your book when you said
you don't drive, and then I realized it's because you
live in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Not right, But I do drive.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You had originally told Tama when you spoke to her
when she was fired. Yes, you said that it wasn't
necessarily something.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That you wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You weren't when you talk to Tama. But in the
book it says that you you it was you, it
was your decision.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What did I say to you? Oh God, what.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did I say to you?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, look, it could still be.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Listen, you didn't lie, right, but you awarded it very well.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Look, I don't think I can tell you. I don't ever.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I did think it was the right thing to do,
and I did want to do it, obviously, but I and.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
By but but excuse me, you've also said it was
the best thing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I don't know that this podcast would have
started if you had been.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I am actually I was.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I had been on for twelve years straight, and I
will tell you I think after twelve years, every housewife
should be to be on pause for a year.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's like I will.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Say that I was depressed, and of course the pandemic
hit at the same time, trying to figure out, you know,
if it was twelve years doing the same thing. I
knew my schedule, I knew everything, and all of a
sudden it was like oh shit, what am I doing?
And it feel I felt like I was kicked out of.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The cool girls. Yeah right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I then after a year, I'm feeling sorry for myself.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
You know, I picked myself back up. I got a
call from Teddy and iHeart, asking me to do this,
and I got a call from you. Actually, I think
I'm gonna call from you first, asking to do.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And then I did the podcast and it just things
just started flowing. And Eddie kept telling me, listen, babe,
it's going to be okay. I understand, you know the same.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And I also told you it's the mafia and once
you're in, not out, and something will happen.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
So Andy called me. He actually texted me. He said,
when you feel good, call me. Let's talk.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And I said, okay, So I called him. He said, listen,
is this when you thought you were going to be
in trouble? No, And this is after I've already been hired.
And he said, this was a network decision. If you
get offers from other networks, please come to me and
talk to me first. I feel like you will be back,
you know, just keep tight.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that was it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So in the back back of my head, you know,
I'm thinking, oh, it might happen, it might not happen.
In the next season, gets you know, picked up and
it's heather to brow and I think, I text you
a fucking sad face or something, and then it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Just it just happened.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
But had I known at that time from day one,
I think my mindset would have been different. So, I mean,
at the end of the day, it all worked out
and I'm happy to be back, and I come back
with a different perspective.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Eddie came back with a different perspective as well. I
mean I think if you've watched she's very engaged.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
He's engaged, and he's enjoying it, and he says like,
you know what I am because there's certain people on
the show that aren't on the show anymore.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
So I feel like I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And you can appreciate the good parts and also realize
what to step away from as a husband. Yeah, for sure,
wife be in it and so involved and it's such
a great part.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Of the show.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, it was so good that when I
got asked back, I thought for a second, I'm like,
maybe I should just come back as a friend, because
you know, when you break up with somebody and your
heart broken, and then you get over the hump and
you move.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
On with your life, and then I always come back.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Then you think, do I really want them back in
my life all the time? So that was going through
my head. Only I'm all in, I'm all out right,
Yeah I try.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Anyways, there was a part in the book that kind
of like when I heard it, there was a moment
of like sadness, but then also a moment of being
really proud when you said I had Teddy's dad on
the on the pod, I mean on the on watch
What Happens Live, and you said, you know, you said
really nice things about him, and I remember we texted
that night as well. But you said in the book
(09:54):
that Teddy is as codependent as any daughter with a
famous father, but the they.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Were sweet with each other.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Would you want the same relationship I have with my
dad with Lucy?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well, I don't fully know your relationship with your dad. Fully,
What I.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Said is codependent going on a talk show with your
famous father.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
So you wanted it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wasn't show and he wasn't on the shows.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You wanted the experience of going on watching what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I have to be successful for him, and I saw
you you were so sweet with him, and you were
so sweet with me to in turn, you know, you
just because also you were in the situation of your
dad who hates going on talk shows.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Was he a difficult interview.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
He at first, but he really warmed up as it
went on. He was really warming up and he really vibed.
And when he left, he was like, that was fun,
and he said I love watching you on New Year's Eve,
which meant so much to me.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I was like, oh, wow, that's so baby.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They really actually hit it off, I mean didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The after show I think was really where he peeked
he was starting.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
He was really cooking.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But also it was it was, you know, more relaxed,
and I was able to just shoot the ship a
little more. But you know, for me, it was watching
you sit there in an unenviable position of I'm on
a talk show with Andy who I have a history with,
and my dad who doesn't like being on talk I mean.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Honestly, I was like a nervous stage mom watching him
on the show. I could see she was so nervous because, yeah,
but what I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Was thinking about it, because there's there is a lot
of talk now about NEPO babies, right there is so
I mean, I personally think it's so amazing to be
a NEPO baby because you're going to be proud of
your parents, which your kids.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Are going to go through your kids are not cooking.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But also it's about the way that you raise your
kids as being the NEPO parent because and you know,
I'll have to raise my kids the same way that
my dad raised me, which is really like you have
to work for whatever you want. And I think that
he's so strict, he's so strict, he's so even inties.
But I love that your kids are seeing the same
type of thing from you. And also my my one
(12:21):
big thing from that I learned from my dad is
like you will not get anywhere or get anything without
working for it, and you are able to show that
to your kids. And I think that's the biggest lesson
to anybody. And yeah, there are going to be times
people are going to throw it in your kid's face
the same way they throw it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
In my like oh you're just Camstad and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I'm really proud of that, thank you, But like moving on, Yeah,
like didn't get a cent from him, and I got
all of the knowledge I could.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That was the moment that I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that word codependent, there's something about it on my.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, shit, codependent. I'm not saying you have a codependent
relationship with your dad. I'm saying, going on a talk
show with your dad, you were in that situation codependent
because you wanted it to work. No.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I remember you came into my dressing room to say hi.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And the one thing I can say about Andy, you guys,
is no matter if you're a fired housewife or you're
gone or whatever it is, he will text you back.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
He will come see you in the dressing room before
like he's never.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Had he But there are some people, not everybody, Not
everybody's like that. Some people treat you differently when you're
no longer in the mix.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, John John Mayer, I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We're going to talk about John Mayor.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
There was a quote that he said about your star,
You're an A list celebrity with a.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What was an A lister who uh like parties like
a B lister? The mentality something.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, I thought that was to me.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't know why that quote just really stuck out
in my head. I love that coat and I love
him so much. We got the joy of meeting him
at the Babyby shower and I remember you leaning over
because I was sitting next to Teddy. Oh hell you guys,
you rse the story told on and then and then
you looked at me and you said that's John Mayer's chair.
(14:08):
And he showed up and he didn't. I I'm like, oh,
I'm sorry, and he's like no, Sid and I'm like right, okay, okay,
and I'm like no, I'm getting up.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah he he Do.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know him?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I've known him, I don't know, probably like maybe twelve
thirteen years.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Seems like a really cool dude.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, very cool dude.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know who else?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I like?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Who?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
The guy that you had behind the bar with the
weed company.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh Greg, he loves you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
My girlfriend that was with me that night, she actually
bought a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Sweat Yeah, oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, he runs this company called Camp High and I
met him through John.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yes. Yes, very cool. That's so funny, very cool.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Has there ever been a moment where you are like
we could cross that line?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Because people they do ask people like thank you, and
John have something going. People think there's a rumor out
there that you John and Sheena have hooked up.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, not she I No is there? No is there?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
No, we're not You have not hooked up with any housewife.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, she's not a housewife.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well I wropped up with anyone?
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yeah, smart correct, very forgot made right.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well yeah, we made out on television too. By the way,
it's not like Tammar and I like snuck away from in.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Front of Eddie.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
In front of Eddie.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We're not making it a bad thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh my god, I know.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I had to like say, so Eddie, Andy's books kind
of going around and he says, there's you know, we
have some sexual tension. He's like, okay, okay, Eddie, He's.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like, okay, whatever. Totally get it. Totally get it. So
there was a little bit of back and forth about
the rentas stuff. Yeah, and the reunion. First off, you
said that after the Beverly.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Hills reunion, this most recent one, the one with Kathy
Hilton and everybody, that you came home, you went on Twitter,
you saw things and you thought there are some questions
that I didn't ask.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, what are those questions? Well, I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I think that she went so hard about the Kathy
Hilton situation and said equated it to getting can you know,
to something I'm going to do with cancer, And there
was just there was a level of intensity about her
feeling about it. And I don't think that I on
(16:40):
social media, but also in the room and on the show,
I don't think that I got into that enough. And
I wish that I had broken that down a little
bit more, know.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What, I want to get into a little bit.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Just from watching that reunion, and I know that people
are gonna be like Tay, but like not one of
those women sat up and comforted Kyle in that moment.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I was the only one. Excuse me, I was the
only one that hugged her.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was stunned by that because she's sobbing while.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
We're trying to do a toast at the end of
the season. I mean, it was she was unable to
be coright. I was very I was stunned by that.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Is Kathy on Beggarly Hills this year.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
We are shooting right now, so she might we will see.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So when Renna texted that she was leaving, and then she.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Texted that night saying I'm quitting the show. I was
in this hotel when I.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Got to talk about her excitement for going back.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, I mean that, I said.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I Then I think I say in the book that
sometimes if someone quits, they you don't know if maybe
they'll change their mind.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I was going to quit my last reunion, Okay, I
wanted to be the first one to quit.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I know, but you know, but.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I was coming from a mo I just got word
that Simon had cancer and I didn't know that he
was if he was going to live right, And I
was just upside down with the season that I had.
I was in a huge lawsuit, and I was thinking,
in my head, is this even worth it?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think it would.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think it would be so dramatic and amazing if
a housewife.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
At the end of a reunion said I have one more.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thing to say, and that's what I wanted to do.
I was going to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
If Rinna did that, Alex, really that would have That
would have and then I got fired.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
That would have allowed.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Alex talked me out of he said, your your emotions
are high.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
How much does housewives actually take into consideration what's going
on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because I heard you say, like Housewives Twitter is a
flawed representation of the total feeling.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Sometimes it's a good measure, but I would.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Not they wanted me fired.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It is listen, they probably wanted you fired many years
and then they wanted me back. But yeah, exactly. So
the answer is I think that you look.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think Housewives Twitter is sometimes a good it's a
real first of all, I always look at it.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think it's interesting. But I think we listen, we
do research after every season.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
We that are that is actual, like real focus groups
and real research among a large pool of devoted Housewives viewers.
And it's not no, and it's not you know, and
it's not it's often very not representative. Now the polls
(19:34):
and watch what Happens Live, which people think like the
Jersey fans who support Teresa think that our polls are
written and which is something that Joe's Aaron always thought.
And I there's nothing in it for me to rig
a pool.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I don't care what the result is.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I find that a lot of times the viewers are
trying to embarrass the person it's sitting next to me.
So I'll say who's the smartest on the show, and
the person next to me, will not or if they
love them so much, they will win.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But it's not represented.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know, these polls, to me, are representative of people
who vote on polls on watch what happens like. They're
not even representative necessarily of the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And how much do you take to heart when you
go on to Twitter and you're like, because you reference
a couple of times, yeah, look like this person's coming
at me for this or.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
This is the basis you said you don't talk about
politics because of the fact sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, sometimes, but sometimes I do a lot also, But
I think, look, my biggest advice that I always tell
the housewives is don't look at Twitter.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's it's not one day.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I remember Chanelle on the premiere night of Dubai. I said, listen,
don't look at Twitter. They're gonna love you right now.
But I'm telling you, you could say something stupid in
three weeks and people are going to be after you.
And so the answer is I take it all with
a grain of salt. Sometimes if something there was something
that happened with Garcel at the last Beverly Hills reunion
(21:11):
where I kind of left her hanging there and it
was and I was really like I was thrown.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well hold on, I do actually, but.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But I was really like flumbayed on Twitter for it,
and I I get it, but like, it gets so
hot on Twitter that sometimes you really.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Do need to step away and say, okay, let me
like you know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It can it so sometimes it can get under your skin,
as I'm sure we all would.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Also depends on your mood, Like I am in a good mood.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
But the incredible thing is when you put the Twitter down,
it goes away.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It goes away.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yes, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That's what it's like. The people that matter. I can
breathe and Twitter hates me, but like I'm like, she's
like the most hated housewife ever, most hated on Twitter.
It's actually sad.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I've been crying all day no that it can get.
It can get.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I personally don't.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But now, to be honest, when I got fired, I
was sad about the amount of hate that I got.
And then now I actually take pride in it. I'm like,
you know what, you guys take this much energy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
To well, listen, I hated it. Show me that I
got booed at.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I thought that was big but low, and I thought
the way that she owned it to use her term
absolutely not only did she flip them off, she then
did press and I was saying to her, pr I go,
don't make her do press.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I said, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like, don't make her do this. Yes, and then she
wanted to. She went out there and she.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Was like, you know what, I've never been booed.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It was kind of amazing. It was kind it.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was so cool.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Is run on pause?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, I think if you asked her, she says, she's not.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I like the idea, but she was like she released
some kind of statement through her manager saying I fulfilled
my contract.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's over you whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
And after you're off, there's so many emotions that you know,
and she judge her like you you me, and you
talked afterwards. Well maybe tamor the networks might be a
little mad at you because you've done a lot of interviews.
I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to get through
this process because it's like looks.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I called her before the book came out and I said,
I'm sending you my book. I want you to know
that I say in the book that you quit, because
no one that wasn't out there. I said, I just
want you to know, like this is in there. And
she and I, she and I were talking about She said,
you know, that was a tough year for me last year.
We talked about it, and so I know that when
you exit, however you exit, it's a it's a process,
(23:48):
especially after eight years, and it's such an intense experience
being part of this.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, and for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So speaking of exiting, so BH had a storyline that
was Sensor about Adrian surrogate. Yes, so, which leads me
to ask two questions. One, why was Mary allowed to
come back? And was LVP fired?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
LVP was not fired. She didn't want to come back,
and she didn't show up at the reuni.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean she would have wanted to come back, Like,
what is your stipulation.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
For I think that if you don't show up at
a reunion, typically you certainly, yes, now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We have shot with Mary Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I think that you at minimum you take a season
off if you're not going to show up at a reunion. Okay,
So I think after you sit it out for a season,
there's certainly a conversation to be here.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And regarding the Adrian maloof thing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That was a long time ago, and I think I
don't There was some agreement and it's so wild that
of course if you try to hide anything, it'll come up.
But there was some agreement that wouldn't be made anymore
where it was. She said, this can never come up,
(25:11):
and then somehow it came up, of course, and we would.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And look, that was a lesson for us because.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
We tried to put something in my agreement when I
first started. Of course you did, and they were like,
go kick rocks.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
There was an Orange County housewife who left the show
because she wanted something in her deal or contract. She
wanted us to say, this will never come up. And
by the way, we wanted her to come back on
the show. And we then we said we won't put
this in the deal. And that was it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You guys, so let's let's think, because.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're never going to be able to figure this out.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Lydia, I'm you're not going to say no, but I
will say that my last voicemail from any housewife is
Mary Cosby.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
She left me a voicemail.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, interesting, I love you, Tama, thank you, because I
just everyone said I'll send her a message saying.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Really nice? I do too, How are you?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How is filming going on? You're doing great?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I love you, Tamra.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
That's nice.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
God bless you, she said me like two voice smails.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
To get into Jersey a bit.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yes, wait, but you mentioned about Snookie.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, right, never offered a new Jersey role, would never
really consider it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Is it because she was on.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Another It just seems like no, I mean, I'm sorry,
another reality she.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Is. She's the face of Jersey Shore, which is a
huge MTV show. It just seemed a little jumpy to
me or weird. So I don't know, but you know,
maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. It just seem weird.
But it was very blown out of proportion.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And then you talk a good amount about Caroline Manzo
in the book and how you have the conversations Theresa
about her coming back not coming back. Obviously she didn't,
she probably never will now at this point. But do
you think there's anybody core from Jersey that you would
want to bring back to try to fix all this?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, I mean, I don't know, I mean fix I
mean it's I mean, the show's doing.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Rather well right now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Fix the relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
No, I know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Look, I don't think Jacqueline lives in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
She lives in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Soon well there you go, and Dina lives in California,
wants nothing to do with There you go, and Caroline
is out.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So I don't know who from the past it would be.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And you said no to what is it when you
do a wedding? You said no to officiating the wedding.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Was that because you weren't available you were going to
that other event that you talked about in the book,
or was it because of your feelings towards Louis.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
No, it was not. It was not. It had nothing
to do with Louis or Teresa.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It was I was there was.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
The realm its boundaries. But it's also in the realm of.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
You're opening a can of worms, because now am I
then when someone when another housewived that I've known for
a long time?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know, it's like, so when you.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Follow the housewives, I don't follow anybody, right, Yes.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's just like, so you were obviously invited to Teresa's wedding.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I did.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I wound up in Montana at John Mayer's house that weekend, right, even.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
So, it's almost like showing favoritism.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean I heard that at some point.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Though.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Look, I've known you for so long.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I think that people have to understand that there are
people who you've been in business with for a very
long time. It's why, you know, I have a soft
spot for Luanne and I went to her Jose you
know party last summer in the Hamptons. But also it's
in the Hamptons. It meant something to her.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I've known this woman for thirteen fifteen years, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So that's hard.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
That's the hard position. It is hard, really hard.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Well, I can say that we just finished watching Jersey
and we like, I mean, season Jersey was off the
Hill was Yeah, No, I had all the emotions. I
really felt emotional, which a lot of the times I
can kind of disconnect from it. But for whatever reason,
between those two and for those four, it felt really
intense to me.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I mean, when it comes to family like that, I
know that that's the tough part.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Really really tough. It's gonna be a tough decision on
your guys's part.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Should we ask about New York and the leakiest You
said that the leakiest cast.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
We were oh, yeah, well there. I mean, they've got
page six on speed dial. And I was in can
and I ran into this page six reporter. I go,
let me guess, let me guess who you get the
most calls from.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I nailed it. And I'm not going to sell
them out. And there are all people who say I never.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I never never sounds like tune.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It's I mean, look listen, and it's not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Oh really, yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I don't ever understand leaking something like a storyline or
leaking things that are relevant to the show.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
How does that help you?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I mean, I it bums me out because you want
everything to play out on the show. That's why I
love watching Succession. I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Happen.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, Orange County we made a pack where like, let's
not do it.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I love that you all did great, and that's why
people are like, it must not be good.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It is this. I love it, and I love it
that you made that pack. Yeah, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's not really very well.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
And also the group texting, which I think creates because
then you'd create this like bond.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
That we do have a group text.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Not everybody gets along, but we all are very cordial
in the group text.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I Atta I think has one.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
For the show is I'm so bummed about Drew.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I love Drew so much and we just watched, you know,
the Atlanta premiere.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And Kim Zulziac.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Have you talked to the texted? Are you know?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
There's there are many clips of me on reunion saying, Kim,
are you saving your money?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Kim? Are you saving your money? Because they really spent,
you know, they really used to spend.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
But he seemed like he was a pretty good hands
on dad, like even on what Don't be Tardy? Yeah,
like she he always seemed like a good guy and
now it's getting ugly. Do you think that relationships when
they end are just so magnified in the public.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I art, Yeah, they're not a reality show anymore, and
I think it's really what you make of it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
But I think in general.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You see a lot of housewives that as you are
on the show, you're obviously your salary gets higher and
higher that I watch them and they're dripped in you know,
Louisvuitton and Gucci, and I.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Keep thinking, what are you doing with your money.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I personally, and this is where Vicky and I bond
so much about is I would rather look like the
poorest housewife and the entire show than to look like
the richest one because I want my money in the bank,
I want my money in investments.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
I don't want anybody to know what's going on financially
with me because call me poor.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, I'm good with this is a bad outfit. I'm
a good I just the way the girls dress on
the show now.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Is it's it's over the time being said, there's a
moment where you talk about housewives fake labels.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yes, okay, so maybe you do care what they but.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, it's fake fake.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I feel like, if you know, it's very easy to
buy fake labels these days, and I know there's a
lot of housewives. There's actually an instagram that calls out
the housewives that wear the.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Technically Moon has a fult like she does a full
TikTok about all the people that have fake bags, called
out Ginshaw before hers got seized.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, Teresa's at the top of the list of the
one with all the fake stuff on this instagram on
this everything.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But for me.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
It's like, are you wearing that to impress other people?
Are you doing it to make.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yourself like that?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's a it's a it's a it's a weird spot
because the show has always been meant to be aspirational
and stylist and about a lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But if you don't have that lifestyle, then you're fake
shit exactly. And that's the part that I don't like. Yeah,
you know, it's like, it's it's one thing that I
would you know, somebody that couldn't afford a Gucci belt,
which they probably wouldn't be on the cast, but anyways.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Couldn't afford it. If you want to get a fake what,
that's all on you.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
But when you're drenched from head to toe in designer
fake clothes, yes, I got an issue with that.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What do you definitely have an issue with it, whether
it's fake or real, Like you really need to be
fully every part of your body needs to be covered
in able. I actually think my favorite trip I ever
did as a housewife was when glam was not allowed, right,
because I think that glam it gives you an out,
It gives you somebody else to talk to when you're
(34:18):
just I've never had on a trip, so like I
was just by myself, desperate, Like who am I going
to run this off of?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like who am I going to buy it? Because sometimes
I think there are.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Housewives and disagree with me if you but get some
of their funny soundbites from their lamp, sure, because like
clearly they've got yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But I have a big issue with the girls that
are wearing fake.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
From Headstow because I feel like we're on a.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Reality show to show your real life and if you
can't afford that, And the one particular girl we're talking about,
she doesn't even know how much those outfits cost, so
you should not.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Be wearing the fake one, right.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And I know we're about to have to wrap up,
so I want to go through all the different franchises,
but I guess can't.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
You did say in your book that chanel Ione was
a star, she has star power, super star powered.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I think it was at Bravo Con that she went
after It was her that went after.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Phedra and that was my favorite moment of Bravo. I was,
can kill you with one yes? And I was, I
just lost it. I couldn't believe it. But she's she's fearless.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
She is. It's like she has maid in a housewife factory.
She is.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
She's excellent and first even her And but what I
like about her, which makes her a fan favorite, is
that she is the same as in her confessionals.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
As she is in real life.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Exactly is when someone's you know whatever in real life
and then in their confessionals like yes, like who are you?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, like I never saw you there, right, But I
also didn't know.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
But you said in the book that a Bravo on
you edited out certain things if you like, so you
said something about Gizelle's fashion.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, we we.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I came out at the Legends ball and did kind
of which I never do.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I never tell jokes.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm not a comedian, but I was like, let's I
was like, look, they're all on the stage. What if
I do kind of a little roasty thing, like at
the beginning of an award show, And I made some
jokes and one of them was just kind of a
low blow at Gazelle's outfits, which.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I thought was you know, fine, and uh she was.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
She was bummed out about it and like, look, I
don't wanna It's like, first of all, we're in business
relationships with each other.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's a it is a balancing act because I'm trying
to be provocative with you all, I'm also trying to
work with you, and I'm also trying to deliver to
the audience.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
What they want to hear, right, So it's it's just.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A balancing act. And sometimes you cross the line or
sometimes you don't realize it. But I ultimately I never
want someone to leave watch what happens, live really furious
at me, and.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Sometimes it happens. And that was a moment where I
could tell that I had like hurt her feelings. And
it was the beginning of her big weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And I said to her, look, I'll take that out,
you know, And she I could tell that it meant something,
so I took it out.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It was no big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I also killed a joke about Rinna at the Legends ball.
I was going to say something like Kyle brought the
scariest villain from Halloween.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Halloween, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And I and she had gotten And Rinna can take
a joke, I mean she will take she can take
a joke. But I was like this when I saw
that she had gotten booed. I was like, I am
not touching that. I mean, I felt so bad, And
as a matter of fact, I said, you don't need
to come to the Legends ball if you don't want,
because I just felt like I want this to be
(37:58):
a positive.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But you did, but you did keep in where Erica
said that Dre and PK were the next couple.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I mean that was I gotta believe that plays forward. Yes,
So that's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So, speaking of Bravo Khan, Bravo Kan twenty twenty three
is in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Are you excited about that?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I am really excited.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I think that hotels in Vegas are much cheaper than
they are in New York.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
As a rule, I think you could get better.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
But it's really about space spinning around. That's going to
be huge, because.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well it's just going to be in two places.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I think so two places.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I think it's at Caesar. I think it's in the
Caesar's Vicinity campus.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
People will be able to get around.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I'm expecting a big party at least at vander Pump's restaurant.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Do you think ourselves? Is he still working there? I
believe he got a lot on vandr Pump Rules.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I think he was the first of the range.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Really fun, and I think just I I didn't want
Bravo to do Bravo on this year.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I was saying, I think we should take a year off.
It was so huge and I just thought. I was like,
let's take a year off. And then.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Frances and ellen Stone said to me, well what if
we did it in Vegas? And I was like, oh
my god, that's a game changer.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Let's do that. That's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's going to be crazy, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Do you have people visiting, because then people everybody can
come from all different sides.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And in final question, you said last year at Bravo Con,
there was a rumor going around when you went in
the press room, which is where I was standing when
we first talked, when he thought I crashed.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yes, I well, I love it that.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Then I said to Tamra, I bust Tamra, and you
talk about it in the book.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I say like, oh, did Teddy crash or something?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And then Tamra immediately tell us I didn't think it
was that ship.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I can't say anything to Tamar at this.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Point, No, it's no exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I've edited myself saying a couple of things you recently
because I'm like, she's going to go tell.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
If you actually asked me to never say something, I
am like a vault.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Well, clearly I didn't ask you not to say anything.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
We were actually having a conversation on the plane and
Andie text me and said something about Erica.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I was looking for CBD for.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Aericus for Erica and I said no, and I said
something about Teddy and he said, did she crash?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Rob Is she crashing? Bravo?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Kan me, and and Teddy's like, I didn't crash.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
God, So I had to call you out on it.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
After that, I'm in the back of the golf cart
riding through the backstages and Andy's walking and he says, thanks, Tamra,
thank you so much, and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh, of course, I forgot to give her heads up
after I did the thing. But other people on the carpet,
not me. We're asking you if you were retiring, yes,
And then they were hinting rendtiring Yes, from Watch What
Happens And then they hinted around that maybe it was Craig.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, they were like, Craig could be a successor. And
I'm like, well, now I know who leaked this story.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
But my question for you is, if you could choose
one person when you are done, if you could choose
one person in the sphere right now to take over
for you, who would have bit?
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, that's an interesting question, you know what.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
I have two ideas, but they're not. Neither is on Bravo.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Are they younger than you?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:42):
One is around one is. Yeah, they're both younger than me.
One is much younger.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And one is not male or female.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
They are both male, although now that you say female,
I am thinking of someone else that could be good.
How much longer do you by the way, I will
go as long as you have, and I don't want,
like I want to keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
How long when I'm not working?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
How long do you think that housewives have?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Like?
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Is there an end to it?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well? I don't know, you know, I'm always speculating on
when Watch What Happens Live will go away?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I think that Watch what Happens?
Speaker 6 (42:18):
I mean, I don't know by the way were amazing
last night.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I know, can we talk about me really quick?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah? Yeah, but but I just want to say I'm
always I told Vicky this.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
When we yes, what did we do?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
We got it?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Whatever we did, we decision.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I said to her, you know, there's no there's no
guarantee that any of us will stay on TV forever.
I was like, I was telling her, You've been on
TV longer than Angela Lansbury, you understand, Like, well no,
I mean, like Vicky, you've been starring on a primetime
show on television for like fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
That's unheart.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Took a part exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
So my thing is, And I said her, I go
watch what Happens live. They could call me tomorrow and say,
you know what, Andy, it's going to be. This is
gonna be your last season. I would say, thank you
for this time. You know it's you know, so I
want to keep going for.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Like, don't be sad about it being gone. Be happy
about the experience.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I rather have never loved or write.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Exactly yes, I mean yes.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
And in terms of the Housewives, I think my hope
it look. I think that it is.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think the Real Housewives of Orange County is a
very good example of I mean it.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Is now a long running soap opera.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I mean that one there's a moment where you are
talking about Ryan and we and you say, you know, Ryan,
he he had a rough journey or he had a
rough childhood or whatever, and we show a flashback of
him and Simon, and it's like, on what other show
that's a reality show that you can flash back to?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
How old is Ryan?
Speaker 6 (44:05):
He's thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Thank you, and we're flashing back to him at seventeen
years old or eighteen years old.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's incredible. It's incredible. So I hope that we can
keep it going. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I view it as like keeping airplanes in the sky,
and you want to keep them all in the sky
and you want to and you just have to fiddle
with them just enough.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
But it's hard.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
We had a talk years ago.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
You probably don't even remember, but you said, one day,
you know, when the Housewives show starts to you know,
dwindle down, we'll take housewives from different areas, We'll put
them on an island.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
That's Ultimate Girls Trip. So in my mind, when Ultimate
Girls Trip came out, I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Like that was the reason why I never wanted to
do it, because I always thought we would only do
it at the end.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
What I didn't factor in was that there would be a.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Streaming platform that was launching that we would need to
put something so must see on that people would have
to subscribe. And the housewives are the housewives fans are
so passionate that, of course that they're gonna want to
see this show.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
It's the mother the side.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Of every housewives girls and that's well. Does it bug
you when ex housewives or housewives text you about being
on girls Trip? Because a couple times in the book
you said you offer At one point you said I
offered it to Garcel and then another point you said,
Alexis Bino and Meghan King both asked to be on.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
So what is No, it doesn't bother me. I love
to know that listen.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It only inspires, It only inspires new ideas, and you know,
it's it's good to.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
How many housewives text you today?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I don't think any have text really today. Let me
just YouTube. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Yeah, I always worry about texting you because I feel
like you get so many text messages from housewives.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
I don't want to bother you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Hold on, let's see if I have it.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
No, none, I don't have any from today, you guys.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
All right, So we have to ask one final vander
Pumperoule's question because we did a questions for Andy and
every I think because last night was so huge, Marianna,
like your numbers on watch what happened for insane, but
also all of America is hooked on this story. Yeah,
what is something that you think that we may potentially
(46:33):
be missing something that I was watching from the show.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, from the show.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I think my latest thought is that I was I
just said this yesterday that that I think that Raquel.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I love that you were calling her Raquel and arian Rachel.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think that she think about her time on the show.
She was James's girlfriend. She was pretty soft spoken. She
was I think, trying to have a bigger part on
the show or you know, and it wasn't happening. She
threw this puppy party a few years ago and no
one showed up because I think they just didn't really
want to and and so she was kind of delegitimized
(47:14):
in a weird way from the show. For a few years,
she would try to talk to these women they didn't
really want.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I think this season, suddenly she had real relationships with them,
and suddenly because of Ariana, because of.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Arianna, and she was friends with her, and I think
suddenly she was getting all this attention, not only from
the women who were like, great, let's have lunch, let's
hang out, whatever. Now she's really a player on the show,
and the guys.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Are starting to give her attention. And I think maybe
she got lost.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
In the sauce of wow, look at this, and she
got I mean, and obviously.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
And her her.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Values and you know, she compromied everything, maybe because she
was excited.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I worry, I actually worry about her.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I worry because you know that she's young, much younger
than everybody else. Yes, and so many people have such
a strong opinion.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I know, I want. I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You know, Lisa Vanderbump came on, uh watch what happens
like the first week after it broke, and that was
pretty deliberate, and I really thought it was important. And
she did too that she say to people, these are
real people. They did something stupid, these are human beings.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Everybody kind of.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Bringing everybody's cheated on this show, right everywhere.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Everyone now this is a cheating like.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Different because it's a best friend.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
So I it's a best friend.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And we've seen this couple from the beginning, and this
relationship was born out of him cheating on Kristen.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think at this point they all have all the
same distances because they've all slept at the other.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
None of them have gotten monkey pox though, to our you.
But we appreciate you so much for coming on. But
congratulations on your new books.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
So happy.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
It's very good and I highly advised you to go
out there and buy it and read it, and they
could buy.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
It where anywhere anywhere, yes.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Or download it. It's really nice to hear Andy's voice.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
I think you should just read it.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Well. I mean there's a bad way to do, you
know what.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
There's no bad I like, but coming back coming from
somebody that's not a reader, I really enjoying.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
I really really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Eddie's own Eddie reads every single morning.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
And I told him that I read this book because
he was away overnight trip and he said, oh my god,
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
I know, I'm of you.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I was proud of you too. I was like, damn,
I really was mocking.
Speaker 5 (49:44):
I'm like, ah, sure she read fun of Me, was
going to read her first book ever, and I and
I did.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I read it faster than she listened to.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
That, but she had to listen. It was it took
like it's like it's a.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Long years, nine hours and seventeen minutes.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Okay, I have to piece.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
I was gonna ask him about that. D all right,
Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Make sure to write in any other questions that you
have guests that you'd like to have in the future,
and we will talk to you soon.
To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, y'all, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We are back Andy Cohen part two, and we're going
to talk a little bit about my favorite topic, cameras
and obviously Andy's as well, because Camra was mentioned more
than any other housewife and Andy's book forty times.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But now I know it's because they made out. We
can't say hook. Oh my god, that has nothing to
do with it.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I think that really was number two. Let me let's
guest Rina.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
No, really, somebody that calls you a lot, now Bey
in your book you say multiple times called me, No,
you're Grisa.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, so Teresa, So it's camera at forty times.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes, in the body time Teresa thirty one times. Garcel
I was surprised by this one because I did know
you guys were as close and.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Twenty six times.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We were in can together with Dorri, right, but only
got thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I was a little jealous of that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So I was like, still, garcel I mean, you talked her,
talked with her through the reunion Renna twenty three times,
even throughout a pause, so I was like, she still
got above Renna twenty six, Bethany twenty two times, Vicki
twenty one, Kyle seventeen, Jinshaw sixteen, Erica fifteen, Jill fourteen times.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What could you Jill?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Jill, Well, it was all about me kind of reprimanding
her and her being in trouble, I announcing that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I really feel like I was announced.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I was talked about the most because it was during
the time where they were.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That is why it was. It was still July. It
was July. The month of July was a big time.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I would have appreciated being talked about six times because
then I would have been with Marlowe and Phedra instead
of Teddy and had their bro at five times.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh my god, I'm sorry, Shannon. You're all about what's
happened in his life days right by the way. You
totally inspired me.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And today I woke up and I wrote you know
the date, and I just talked about how.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Really a book. No, I'm not going to write a book.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I'm not going to write a book, but I thought
it was a really good thing that you can you know,
I mean, your journals have been around forever, but but
just something for your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It kind of replaced kind of replaced having a shrink
for me in a whey yeah way, because I felt
like I needed to figure out what I was feeling.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Your book is such a cool concept, and it really
is an easy read because it's really broken down todays.
It's basically a diary, and you talk about I mean,
I know that Ben gets up at seven am every morning.
I know that it's a struggle to put his gloves on.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I figured it out.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I know that watcha who you know Pete on
the floor when you brought Ben home and Ben, Yeah,
return the favor.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, we know that. We know that Ben wished or
was a cat? Yes, yes, kidding.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh, by the way, I wanted to text the other day.
I thought i'd say today. So our dog died July fourth,
and Sophia was very attached to the dog. In one
another animal, she wanted a cat and it is allergic
to cats. So we got a blue Russian and he's
not allergic to it. We actually had production guys come
into the house that loved cats and they're allergic and
(03:24):
they got it cat in their face and everything, and
they all told.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Me nothing, are they bald cats.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They're beautiful cats.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
In fact, Heather Debro's daughter recently got one as well
to take to her dorm room.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So they're beautiful cats.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I want to see a picture of Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Cats and good cats and just they're they're great. They're
all grey, they're cute, beautiful cat if you so, if
you need a cat, okay, just telling. Yeah, it's good news.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, now we're going through. We're color highlighted here.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So what is your all time favorite moment of camera
on Real Household County?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That is so hard?
Speaker 6 (04:01):
No, I mean, he's no, I'm gay.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's really hard.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think, I think, I mean, I don't know if
I could say one actual moment, but I would say
that just the arc of you splitting from Simon and
then finding.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Love, I think is it speaks.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
To this show and specifically your show, how much time
you've been on it and how much has happened.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
If you inspire me, I would have been the longest lasting.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Wow, thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
We're not budd All years consecutive doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's yes, No, it's years.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I'm sorry, Oh that's not true.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, Okay, what it was your favorite moment of Teddy,
He's like, holy hill, yeah didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's why she's gone.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
When she there was a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What were you and Dorry getting into it about at
the Elton joke at the Boy George concert at the
Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh weren't you?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know why I got so p K had
made a joke to Kyle something along the line. I
forget what it was, but we all decided it wasn't
a joke, right, and I said something about British humor,
and she was like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't know that that's my favorite moment, but it's something
for some reason that just I.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Thought maybe it was the moment where you exposed Brandy
and Den sleeping together.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh well, that's what I like.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
What I like about Teddy is that she is very unafraid.
I mean she just yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't really have a fear when it
comes to driving.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Can't drive.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I got all excited in your book when you said
you don't drive, and then I realized it's because you
live in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Not right, But I do drive.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You had originally told Tama when you spoke to her
when she was fired. Yes, you said that it wasn't
necessarily something.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That you wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You weren't when you talk to Tama. But in the
book it says that you you it was you, it
was your decision.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What did I say to you? Oh God, what.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did I say to you?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, look, it could still be.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Listen, you didn't lie, right, but you awarded it very well.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Look, I don't think I can tell you. I don't ever.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I did think it was the right thing to do,
and I did want to do it, obviously, but I and.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
By but but excuse me, you've also said it was
the best thing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I don't know that this podcast would have
started if you had been.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I am actually I was.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I had been on for twelve years straight, and I
will tell you I think after twelve years, every housewife
should be to be on pause for a year.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's like I will.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Say that I was depressed, and of course the pandemic
hit at the same time, trying to figure out, you know,
if it was twelve years doing the same thing. I
knew my schedule, I knew everything, and all of a
sudden it was like oh shit, what am I doing?
And it feel I felt like I was kicked out of.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The cool girls. Yeah right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I then after a year, I'm feeling sorry for myself.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
You know, I picked myself back up. I got a
call from Teddy and iHeart, asking me to do this,
and I got a call from you. Actually, I think
I'm gonna call from you first, asking to do.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And then I did the podcast and it just things
just started flowing. And Eddie kept telling me, listen, babe,
it's going to be okay. I understand, you know the same.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And I also told you it's the mafia and once
you're in, not out, and something will happen.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
So Andy called me. He actually texted me. He said,
when you feel good, call me. Let's talk.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And I said, okay, So I called him. He said, listen,
is this when you thought you were going to be
in trouble? No, And this is after I've already been hired.
And he said, this was a network decision. If you
get offers from other networks, please come to me and
talk to me first. I feel like you will be back,
you know, just keep tight.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that was it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So in the back back of my head, you know,
I'm thinking, oh, it might happen, it might not happen.
In the next season, gets you know, picked up and
it's heather to brow and I think, I text you
a fucking sad face or something, and then it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Just it just happened.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
But had I known at that time from day one,
I think my mindset would have been different. So, I mean,
at the end of the day, it all worked out
and I'm happy to be back, and I come back
with a different perspective.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Eddie came back with a different perspective as well. I
mean I think if you've watched she's very engaged.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
He's engaged, and he's enjoying it, and he says like,
you know what I am because there's certain people on
the show that aren't on the show anymore.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
So I feel like I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And you can appreciate the good parts and also realize
what to step away from as a husband. Yeah, for sure,
wife be in it and so involved and it's such
a great part.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Of the show.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, it was so good that when I
got asked back, I thought for a second, I'm like,
maybe I should just come back as a friend, because
you know, when you break up with somebody and your
heart broken, and then you get over the hump and
you move.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
On with your life, and then I always come back.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Then you think, do I really want them back in
my life all the time? So that was going through
my head. Only I'm all in, I'm all out right,
Yeah I try.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Anyways, there was a part in the book that kind
of like when I heard it, there was a moment
of like sadness, but then also a moment of being
really proud when you said I had Teddy's dad on
the on the pod, I mean on the on watch
What Happens Live, and you said, you know, you said
really nice things about him, and I remember we texted
that night as well. But you said in the book
(09:54):
that Teddy is as codependent as any daughter with a
famous father, but the they.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Were sweet with each other.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Would you want the same relationship I have with my
dad with Lucy?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well, I don't fully know your relationship with your dad. Fully,
What I.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Said is codependent going on a talk show with your
famous father.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
So you wanted it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wasn't show and he wasn't on the shows.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You wanted the experience of going on watching what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I have to be successful for him, and I saw
you you were so sweet with him, and you were
so sweet with me to in turn, you know, you
just because also you were in the situation of your
dad who hates going on talk shows.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Was he a difficult interview.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
He at first, but he really warmed up as it
went on. He was really warming up and he really vibed.
And when he left, he was like, that was fun,
and he said I love watching you on New Year's Eve,
which meant so much to me.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I was like, oh, wow, that's so baby.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They really actually hit it off, I mean didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The after show I think was really where he peeked
he was starting.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
He was really cooking.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But also it was it was, you know, more relaxed,
and I was able to just shoot the ship a
little more. But you know, for me, it was watching
you sit there in an unenviable position of I'm on
a talk show with Andy who I have a history with,
and my dad who doesn't like being on talk I mean.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Honestly, I was like a nervous stage mom watching him
on the show. I could see she was so nervous because, yeah,
but what I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Was thinking about it, because there's there is a lot
of talk now about NEPO babies, right there is so
I mean, I personally think it's so amazing to be
a NEPO baby because you're going to be proud of
your parents, which your kids.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Are going to go through your kids are not cooking.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But also it's about the way that you raise your
kids as being the NEPO parent because and you know,
I'll have to raise my kids the same way that
my dad raised me, which is really like you have
to work for whatever you want. And I think that
he's so strict, he's so strict, he's so even inties.
But I love that your kids are seeing the same
type of thing from you. And also my my one
(12:21):
big thing from that I learned from my dad is
like you will not get anywhere or get anything without
working for it, and you are able to show that
to your kids. And I think that's the biggest lesson
to anybody. And yeah, there are going to be times
people are going to throw it in your kid's face
the same way they throw it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
In my like oh you're just Camstad and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I'm really proud of that, thank you, But like moving on, Yeah,
like didn't get a cent from him, and I got
all of the knowledge I could.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That was the moment that I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that word codependent, there's something about it on my.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, shit, codependent. I'm not saying you have a codependent
relationship with your dad. I'm saying, going on a talk
show with your dad, you were in that situation codependent
because you wanted it to work. No.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I remember you came into my dressing room to say hi.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And the one thing I can say about Andy, you guys,
is no matter if you're a fired housewife or you're
gone or whatever it is, he will text you back.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
He will come see you in the dressing room before
like he's never.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Had he But there are some people, not everybody, Not
everybody's like that. Some people treat you differently when you're
no longer in the mix.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, John John Mayer, I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We're going to talk about John Mayor.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
There was a quote that he said about your star,
You're an A list celebrity with a.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What was an A lister who uh like parties like
a B lister? The mentality something.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, I thought that was to me.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't know why that quote just really stuck out
in my head. I love that coat and I love
him so much. We got the joy of meeting him
at the Babyby shower and I remember you leaning over
because I was sitting next to Teddy. Oh hell you guys,
you rse the story told on and then and then
you looked at me and you said that's John Mayer's chair.
(14:08):
And he showed up and he didn't. I I'm like, oh,
I'm sorry, and he's like no, Sid and I'm like right, okay, okay,
and I'm like no, I'm getting up.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah he he Do.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know him?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I've known him, I don't know, probably like maybe twelve
thirteen years.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Seems like a really cool dude.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, very cool dude.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know who else?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I like?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Who?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
The guy that you had behind the bar with the
weed company.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh Greg, he loves you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
My girlfriend that was with me that night, she actually
bought a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Sweat Yeah, oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, he runs this company called Camp High and I
met him through John.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yes. Yes, very cool. That's so funny, very cool.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Has there ever been a moment where you are like
we could cross that line?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Because people they do ask people like thank you, and
John have something going. People think there's a rumor out
there that you John and Sheena have hooked up.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, not she I No is there? No is there?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
No, we're not You have not hooked up with any housewife.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, she's not a housewife.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well I wropped up with anyone?
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yeah, smart correct, very forgot made right.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well yeah, we made out on television too. By the way,
it's not like Tammar and I like snuck away from in.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Front of Eddie.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
In front of Eddie.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We're not making it a bad thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh my god, I know.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I had to like say, so Eddie, Andy's books kind
of going around and he says, there's you know, we
have some sexual tension. He's like, okay, okay, Eddie, He's.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like, okay, whatever. Totally get it. Totally get it. So
there was a little bit of back and forth about
the rentas stuff. Yeah, and the reunion. First off, you
said that after the Beverly.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Hills reunion, this most recent one, the one with Kathy
Hilton and everybody, that you came home, you went on Twitter,
you saw things and you thought there are some questions
that I didn't ask.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, what are those questions? Well, I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I think that she went so hard about the Kathy
Hilton situation and said equated it to getting can you know,
to something I'm going to do with cancer, And there
was just there was a level of intensity about her
feeling about it. And I don't think that I on
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social media, but also in the room and on the show,
I don't think that I got into that enough. And
I wish that I had broken that down a little
bit more, know.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What, I want to get into a little bit.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Just from watching that reunion, and I know that people
are gonna be like Tay, but like not one of
those women sat up and comforted Kyle in that moment.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I was the only one. Excuse me, I was the
only one that hugged her.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was stunned by that because she's sobbing while.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
We're trying to do a toast at the end of
the season. I mean, it was she was unable to
be coright. I was very I was stunned by that.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Is Kathy on Beggarly Hills this year.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
We are shooting right now, so she might we will see.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So when Renna texted that she was leaving, and then she.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Texted that night saying I'm quitting the show. I was
in this hotel when I.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Got to talk about her excitement for going back.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, I mean that, I said.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I Then I think I say in the book that
sometimes if someone quits, they you don't know if maybe
they'll change their mind.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I was going to quit my last reunion, Okay, I
wanted to be the first one to quit.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I know, but you know, but.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I was coming from a mo I just got word
that Simon had cancer and I didn't know that he
was if he was going to live right, And I
was just upside down with the season that I had.
I was in a huge lawsuit, and I was thinking,
in my head, is this even worth it?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think it would.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think it would be so dramatic and amazing if
a housewife.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
At the end of a reunion said I have one more.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thing to say, and that's what I wanted to do.
I was going to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
If Rinna did that, Alex, really that would have That
would have and then I got fired.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
That would have allowed.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Alex talked me out of he said, your your emotions
are high.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
How much does housewives actually take into consideration what's going
on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because I heard you say, like Housewives Twitter is a
flawed representation of the total feeling.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Sometimes it's a good measure, but I would.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Not they wanted me fired.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It is listen, they probably wanted you fired many years
and then they wanted me back. But yeah, exactly. So
the answer is I think that you look.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think Housewives Twitter is sometimes a good it's a
real first of all, I always look at it.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think it's interesting. But I think we listen, we
do research after every season.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
We that are that is actual, like real focus groups
and real research among a large pool of devoted Housewives viewers.
And it's not no, and it's not you know, and
it's not it's often very not representative. Now the polls
(19:34):
and watch what Happens Live, which people think like the
Jersey fans who support Teresa think that our polls are
written and which is something that Joe's Aaron always thought.
And I there's nothing in it for me to rig
a pool.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I don't care what the result is.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I find that a lot of times the viewers are
trying to embarrass the person it's sitting next to me.
So I'll say who's the smartest on the show, and
the person next to me, will not or if they
love them so much, they will win.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But it's not represented.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know, these polls, to me, are representative of people
who vote on polls on watch what happens like. They're
not even representative necessarily of the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And how much do you take to heart when you
go on to Twitter and you're like, because you reference
a couple of times, yeah, look like this person's coming
at me for this or.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
This is the basis you said you don't talk about
politics because of the fact sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, sometimes, but sometimes I do a lot also, But
I think, look, my biggest advice that I always tell
the housewives is don't look at Twitter.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's it's not one day.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I remember Chanelle on the premiere night of Dubai. I said, listen,
don't look at Twitter. They're gonna love you right now.
But I'm telling you, you could say something stupid in
three weeks and people are going to be after you.
And so the answer is I take it all with
a grain of salt. Sometimes if something there was something
that happened with Garcel at the last Beverly Hills reunion
(21:11):
where I kind of left her hanging there and it
was and I was really like I was thrown.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well hold on, I do actually, but.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But I was really like flumbayed on Twitter for it,
and I I get it, but like, it gets so
hot on Twitter that sometimes you really.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Do need to step away and say, okay, let me
like you know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It can it so sometimes it can get under your skin,
as I'm sure we all would.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Also depends on your mood, Like I am in a good mood.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
But the incredible thing is when you put the Twitter down,
it goes away.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It goes away.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yes, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That's what it's like. The people that matter. I can
breathe and Twitter hates me, but like I'm like, she's
like the most hated housewife ever, most hated on Twitter.
It's actually sad.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I've been crying all day no that it can get.
It can get.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I personally don't.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But now, to be honest, when I got fired, I
was sad about the amount of hate that I got.
And then now I actually take pride in it. I'm like,
you know what, you guys take this much energy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
To well, listen, I hated it. Show me that I
got booed at.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I thought that was big but low, and I thought
the way that she owned it to use her term
absolutely not only did she flip them off, she then
did press and I was saying to her, pr I go,
don't make her do press.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I said, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like, don't make her do this. Yes, and then she
wanted to. She went out there and she.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Was like, you know what, I've never been booed.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It was kind of amazing. It was kind it.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was so cool.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Is run on pause?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, I think if you asked her, she says, she's not.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I like the idea, but she was like she released
some kind of statement through her manager saying I fulfilled
my contract.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's over you whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
And after you're off, there's so many emotions that you know,
and she judge her like you you me, and you
talked afterwards. Well maybe tamor the networks might be a
little mad at you because you've done a lot of interviews.
I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to get through
this process because it's like looks.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I called her before the book came out and I said,
I'm sending you my book. I want you to know
that I say in the book that you quit, because
no one that wasn't out there. I said, I just
want you to know, like this is in there. And
she and I, she and I were talking about She said,
you know, that was a tough year for me last year.
We talked about it, and so I know that when
you exit, however you exit, it's a it's a process,
(23:48):
especially after eight years, and it's such an intense experience
being part of this.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, and for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So speaking of exiting, so BH had a storyline that
was Sensor about Adrian surrogate. Yes, so, which leads me
to ask two questions. One, why was Mary allowed to
come back? And was LVP fired?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
LVP was not fired. She didn't want to come back,
and she didn't show up at the reuni.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean she would have wanted to come back, Like,
what is your stipulation.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
For I think that if you don't show up at
a reunion, typically you certainly, yes, now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We have shot with Mary Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I think that you at minimum you take a season
off if you're not going to show up at a reunion. Okay,
So I think after you sit it out for a season,
there's certainly a conversation to be here.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And regarding the Adrian maloof thing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That was a long time ago, and I think I
don't There was some agreement and it's so wild that
of course if you try to hide anything, it'll come up.
But there was some agreement that wouldn't be made anymore
where it was. She said, this can never come up,
(25:11):
and then somehow it came up, of course, and we would.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And look, that was a lesson for us because.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
We tried to put something in my agreement when I
first started. Of course you did, and they were like,
go kick rocks.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
There was an Orange County housewife who left the show
because she wanted something in her deal or contract. She
wanted us to say, this will never come up. And
by the way, we wanted her to come back on
the show. And we then we said we won't put
this in the deal. And that was it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You guys, so let's let's think, because.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're never going to be able to figure this out.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Lydia, I'm you're not going to say no, but I
will say that my last voicemail from any housewife is
Mary Cosby.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
She left me a voicemail.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, interesting, I love you, Tama, thank you, because I
just everyone said I'll send her a message saying.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Really nice? I do too, How are you?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How is filming going on? You're doing great?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I love you, Tamra.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
That's nice.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
God bless you, she said me like two voice smails.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
To get into Jersey a bit.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yes, wait, but you mentioned about Snookie.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, right, never offered a new Jersey role, would never
really consider it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Is it because she was on.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Another It just seems like no, I mean, I'm sorry,
another reality she.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Is. She's the face of Jersey Shore, which is a
huge MTV show. It just seemed a little jumpy to
me or weird. So I don't know, but you know,
maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. It just seem weird.
But it was very blown out of proportion.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And then you talk a good amount about Caroline Manzo
in the book and how you have the conversations Theresa
about her coming back not coming back. Obviously she didn't,
she probably never will now at this point. But do
you think there's anybody core from Jersey that you would
want to bring back to try to fix all this?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, I mean, I don't know, I mean fix I
mean it's I mean, the show's doing.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Rather well right now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Fix the relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
No, I know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Look, I don't think Jacqueline lives in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
She lives in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Soon well there you go, and Dina lives in California,
wants nothing to do with There you go, and Caroline
is out.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So I don't know who from the past it would be.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And you said no to what is it when you
do a wedding? You said no to officiating the wedding.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Was that because you weren't available you were going to
that other event that you talked about in the book,
or was it because of your feelings towards Louis.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
No, it was not. It was not. It had nothing
to do with Louis or Teresa.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It was I was there was.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
The realm its boundaries. But it's also in the realm of.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
You're opening a can of worms, because now am I
then when someone when another housewived that I've known for
a long time?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know, it's like, so when you.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Follow the housewives, I don't follow anybody, right, Yes.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's just like, so you were obviously invited to Teresa's wedding.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I did.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I wound up in Montana at John Mayer's house that weekend, right, even.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
So, it's almost like showing favoritism.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean I heard that at some point.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Though.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Look, I've known you for so long.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I think that people have to understand that there are
people who you've been in business with for a very
long time. It's why, you know, I have a soft
spot for Luanne and I went to her Jose you
know party last summer in the Hamptons. But also it's
in the Hamptons. It meant something to her.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I've known this woman for thirteen fifteen years, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So that's hard.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
That's the hard position. It is hard, really hard.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Well, I can say that we just finished watching Jersey
and we like, I mean, season Jersey was off the
Hill was Yeah, No, I had all the emotions. I
really felt emotional, which a lot of the times I
can kind of disconnect from it. But for whatever reason,
between those two and for those four, it felt really
intense to me.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I mean, when it comes to family like that, I
know that that's the tough part.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Really really tough. It's gonna be a tough decision on
your guys's part.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Should we ask about New York and the leakiest You
said that the leakiest cast.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
We were oh, yeah, well there. I mean, they've got
page six on speed dial. And I was in can
and I ran into this page six reporter. I go,
let me guess, let me guess who you get the
most calls from.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I nailed it. And I'm not going to sell
them out. And there are all people who say I never.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I never never sounds like tune.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It's I mean, look listen, and it's not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Oh really, yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I don't ever understand leaking something like a storyline or
leaking things that are relevant to the show.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
How does that help you?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I mean, I it bums me out because you want
everything to play out on the show. That's why I
love watching Succession. I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Happen.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, Orange County we made a pack where like, let's
not do it.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I love that you all did great, and that's why
people are like, it must not be good.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It is this. I love it, and I love it
that you made that pack. Yeah, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's not really very well.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
And also the group texting, which I think creates because
then you'd create this like bond.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
That we do have a group text.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Not everybody gets along, but we all are very cordial
in the group text.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I Atta I think has one.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
For the show is I'm so bummed about Drew.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I love Drew so much and we just watched, you know,
the Atlanta premiere.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And Kim Zulziac.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Have you talked to the texted? Are you know?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
There's there are many clips of me on reunion saying, Kim,
are you saving your money?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Kim? Are you saving your money? Because they really spent,
you know, they really used to spend.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
But he seemed like he was a pretty good hands
on dad, like even on what Don't be Tardy? Yeah,
like she he always seemed like a good guy and
now it's getting ugly. Do you think that relationships when
they end are just so magnified in the public.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I art, Yeah, they're not a reality show anymore, and
I think it's really what you make of it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
But I think in general.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You see a lot of housewives that as you are
on the show, you're obviously your salary gets higher and
higher that I watch them and they're dripped in you know,
Louisvuitton and Gucci, and I.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Keep thinking, what are you doing with your money.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I personally, and this is where Vicky and I bond
so much about is I would rather look like the
poorest housewife and the entire show than to look like
the richest one because I want my money in the bank,
I want my money in investments.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
I don't want anybody to know what's going on financially
with me because call me poor.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, I'm good with this is a bad outfit. I'm
a good I just the way the girls dress on
the show now.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Is it's it's over the time being said, there's a
moment where you talk about housewives fake labels.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yes, okay, so maybe you do care what they but.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, it's fake fake.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I feel like, if you know, it's very easy to
buy fake labels these days, and I know there's a
lot of housewives. There's actually an instagram that calls out
the housewives that wear the.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Technically Moon has a fult like she does a full
TikTok about all the people that have fake bags, called
out Ginshaw before hers got seized.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, Teresa's at the top of the list of the
one with all the fake stuff on this instagram on
this everything.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But for me.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
It's like, are you wearing that to impress other people?
Are you doing it to make.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yourself like that?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's a it's a it's a it's a weird spot
because the show has always been meant to be aspirational
and stylist and about a lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But if you don't have that lifestyle, then you're fake
shit exactly. And that's the part that I don't like. Yeah,
you know, it's like, it's it's one thing that I
would you know, somebody that couldn't afford a Gucci belt,
which they probably wouldn't be on the cast, but anyways.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Couldn't afford it. If you want to get a fake what,
that's all on you.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
But when you're drenched from head to toe in designer
fake clothes, yes, I got an issue with that.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What do you definitely have an issue with it, whether
it's fake or real, Like you really need to be
fully every part of your body needs to be covered
in able. I actually think my favorite trip I ever
did as a housewife was when glam was not allowed, right,
because I think that glam it gives you an out,
It gives you somebody else to talk to when you're
(34:18):
just I've never had on a trip, so like I
was just by myself, desperate, Like who am I going
to run this off of?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like who am I going to buy it? Because sometimes
I think there are.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Housewives and disagree with me if you but get some
of their funny soundbites from their lamp, sure, because like
clearly they've got yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But I have a big issue with the girls that
are wearing fake.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
From Headstow because I feel like we're on a.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Reality show to show your real life and if you
can't afford that, And the one particular girl we're talking about,
she doesn't even know how much those outfits cost, so
you should not.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Be wearing the fake one, right.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And I know we're about to have to wrap up,
so I want to go through all the different franchises,
but I guess can't.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
You did say in your book that chanel Ione was
a star, she has star power, super star powered.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I think it was at Bravo Con that she went
after It was her that went after.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Phedra and that was my favorite moment of Bravo. I was,
can kill you with one yes? And I was, I
just lost it. I couldn't believe it. But she's she's fearless.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
She is. It's like she has maid in a housewife factory.
She is.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
She's excellent and first even her And but what I
like about her, which makes her a fan favorite, is
that she is the same as in her confessionals.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
As she is in real life.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Exactly is when someone's you know whatever in real life
and then in their confessionals like yes, like who are you?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, like I never saw you there, right, But I
also didn't know.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
But you said in the book that a Bravo on
you edited out certain things if you like, so you
said something about Gizelle's fashion.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, we we.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I came out at the Legends ball and did kind
of which I never do.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I never tell jokes.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm not a comedian, but I was like, let's I
was like, look, they're all on the stage. What if
I do kind of a little roasty thing, like at
the beginning of an award show, And I made some
jokes and one of them was just kind of a
low blow at Gazelle's outfits, which.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I thought was you know, fine, and uh she was.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
She was bummed out about it and like, look, I
don't wanna It's like, first of all, we're in business
relationships with each other.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's a it is a balancing act because I'm trying
to be provocative with you all, I'm also trying to
work with you, and I'm also trying to deliver to
the audience.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
What they want to hear, right, So it's it's just.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A balancing act. And sometimes you cross the line or
sometimes you don't realize it. But I ultimately I never
want someone to leave watch what happens, live really furious
at me, and.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Sometimes it happens. And that was a moment where I
could tell that I had like hurt her feelings. And
it was the beginning of her big weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And I said to her, look, I'll take that out,
you know, And she I could tell that it meant something,
so I took it out.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It was no big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I also killed a joke about Rinna at the Legends ball.
I was going to say something like Kyle brought the
scariest villain from Halloween.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Halloween, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And I and she had gotten And Rinna can take
a joke, I mean she will take she can take
a joke. But I was like this when I saw
that she had gotten booed. I was like, I am
not touching that. I mean, I felt so bad, And
as a matter of fact, I said, you don't need
to come to the Legends ball if you don't want,
because I just felt like I want this to be
(37:58):
a positive.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But you did, but you did keep in where Erica
said that Dre and PK were the next couple.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I mean that was I gotta believe that plays forward. Yes,
So that's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So, speaking of Bravo Khan, Bravo Kan twenty twenty three
is in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Are you excited about that?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I am really excited.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I think that hotels in Vegas are much cheaper than
they are in New York.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
As a rule, I think you could get better.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
But it's really about space spinning around. That's going to
be huge, because.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well it's just going to be in two places.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I think so two places.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I think it's at Caesar. I think it's in the
Caesar's Vicinity campus.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
People will be able to get around.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I'm expecting a big party at least at vander Pump's restaurant.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Do you think ourselves? Is he still working there? I
believe he got a lot on vandr Pump Rules.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I think he was the first of the range.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Really fun, and I think just I I didn't want
Bravo to do Bravo on this year.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I was saying, I think we should take a year off.
It was so huge and I just thought. I was like,
let's take a year off. And then.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Frances and ellen Stone said to me, well what if
we did it in Vegas? And I was like, oh
my god, that's a game changer.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Let's do that. That's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's going to be crazy, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Do you have people visiting, because then people everybody can
come from all different sides.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And in final question, you said last year at Bravo Con,
there was a rumor going around when you went in
the press room, which is where I was standing when
we first talked, when he thought I crashed.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yes, I well, I love it that.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Then I said to Tamra, I bust Tamra, and you
talk about it in the book.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I say like, oh, did Teddy crash or something?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And then Tamra immediately tell us I didn't think it
was that ship.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I can't say anything to Tamar at this.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Point, No, it's no exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I've edited myself saying a couple of things you recently
because I'm like, she's going to go tell.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
If you actually asked me to never say something, I
am like a vault.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Well, clearly I didn't ask you not to say anything.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
We were actually having a conversation on the plane and
Andie text me and said something about Erica.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I was looking for CBD for.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Aericus for Erica and I said no, and I said
something about Teddy and he said, did she crash?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Rob Is she crashing? Bravo?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Kan me, and and Teddy's like, I didn't crash.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
God, So I had to call you out on it.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
After that, I'm in the back of the golf cart
riding through the backstages and Andy's walking and he says, thanks, Tamra,
thank you so much, and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh, of course, I forgot to give her heads up
after I did the thing. But other people on the carpet,
not me. We're asking you if you were retiring, yes,
And then they were hinting rendtiring Yes, from Watch What
Happens And then they hinted around that maybe it was Craig.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, they were like, Craig could be a successor. And
I'm like, well, now I know who leaked this story.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
But my question for you is, if you could choose
one person when you are done, if you could choose
one person in the sphere right now to take over
for you, who would have bit?
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, that's an interesting question, you know what.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
I have two ideas, but they're not. Neither is on Bravo.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Are they younger than you?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:42):
One is around one is. Yeah, they're both younger than me.
One is much younger.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And one is not male or female.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
They are both male, although now that you say female,
I am thinking of someone else that could be good.
How much longer do you by the way, I will
go as long as you have, and I don't want,
like I want to keep going.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
How long when I'm not working?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
How long do you think that housewives have?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Like?
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Is there an end to it?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well? I don't know, you know, I'm always speculating on
when Watch What Happens Live will go away?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I think that Watch what Happens?
Speaker 6 (42:18):
I mean, I don't know by the way were amazing
last night.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I know, can we talk about me really quick?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah? Yeah, but but I just want to say I'm
always I told Vicky this.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
When we yes, what did we do?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
We got it?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Whatever we did, we decision.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I said to her, you know, there's no there's no
guarantee that any of us will stay on TV forever.
I was like, I was telling her, You've been on
TV longer than Angela Lansbury, you understand, Like, well no,
I mean, like Vicky, you've been starring on a primetime
show on television for like fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
That's unheart.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Took a part exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
So my thing is, And I said her, I go
watch what Happens live. They could call me tomorrow and say,
you know what, Andy, it's going to be. This is
gonna be your last season. I would say, thank you
for this time. You know it's you know, so I
want to keep going for.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Like, don't be sad about it being gone. Be happy
about the experience.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I rather have never loved or write.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Exactly yes, I mean yes.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
And in terms of the Housewives, I think my hope
it look. I think that it is.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think the Real Housewives of Orange County is a
very good example of I mean it.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Is now a long running soap opera.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I mean that one there's a moment where you are
talking about Ryan and we and you say, you know, Ryan,
he he had a rough journey or he had a
rough childhood or whatever, and we show a flashback of
him and Simon, and it's like, on what other show
that's a reality show that you can flash back to?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
How old is Ryan?
Speaker 6 (44:05):
He's thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Thank you, and we're flashing back to him at seventeen
years old or eighteen years old.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's incredible. It's incredible. So I hope that we can
keep it going. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I view it as like keeping airplanes in the sky,
and you want to keep them all in the sky
and you want to and you just have to fiddle
with them just enough.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
But it's hard.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
We had a talk years ago.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
You probably don't even remember, but you said, one day,
you know, when the Housewives show starts to you know,
dwindle down, we'll take housewives from different areas, We'll put
them on an island.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
That's Ultimate Girls Trip. So in my mind, when Ultimate
Girls Trip came out, I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Like that was the reason why I never wanted to
do it, because I always thought we would only do
it at the end.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
What I didn't factor in was that there would be a.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Streaming platform that was launching that we would need to
put something so must see on that people would have
to subscribe. And the housewives are the housewives fans are
so passionate that, of course that they're gonna want to
see this show.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
It's the mother the side.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Of every housewives girls and that's well. Does it bug
you when ex housewives or housewives text you about being
on girls Trip? Because a couple times in the book
you said you offer At one point you said I
offered it to Garcel and then another point you said,
Alexis Bino and Meghan King both asked to be on.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
So what is No, it doesn't bother me. I love
to know that listen.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It only inspires, It only inspires new ideas, and you know,
it's it's good to.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
How many housewives text you today?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I don't think any have text really today. Let me
just YouTube. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Yeah, I always worry about texting you because I feel
like you get so many text messages from housewives.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
I don't want to bother you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Hold on, let's see if I have it.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
No, none, I don't have any from today, you guys.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
All right, So we have to ask one final vander
Pumperoule's question because we did a questions for Andy and
every I think because last night was so huge, Marianna,
like your numbers on watch what happened for insane, but
also all of America is hooked on this story. Yeah,
what is something that you think that we may potentially
(46:33):
be missing something that I was watching from the show.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, from the show.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I think my latest thought is that I was I
just said this yesterday that that I think that Raquel.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I love that you were calling her Raquel and arian Rachel.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think that she think about her time on the show.
She was James's girlfriend. She was pretty soft spoken. She
was I think, trying to have a bigger part on
the show or you know, and it wasn't happening. She
threw this puppy party a few years ago and no
one showed up because I think they just didn't really
want to and and so she was kind of delegitimized
(47:14):
in a weird way from the show. For a few years,
she would try to talk to these women they didn't
really want.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I think this season, suddenly she had real relationships with them,
and suddenly because of Ariana, because of.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Arianna, and she was friends with her, and I think
suddenly she was getting all this attention, not only from
the women who were like, great, let's have lunch, let's
hang out, whatever. Now she's really a player on the show,
and the guys.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Are starting to give her attention. And I think maybe
she got lost.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
In the sauce of wow, look at this, and she
got I mean, and obviously.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
And her her.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Values and you know, she compromied everything, maybe because she
was excited.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I worry, I actually worry about her.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I worry because you know that she's young, much younger
than everybody else. Yes, and so many people have such
a strong opinion.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I know, I want. I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You know, Lisa Vanderbump came on, uh watch what happens
like the first week after it broke, and that was
pretty deliberate, and I really thought it was important. And
she did too that she say to people, these are
real people. They did something stupid, these are human beings.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Everybody kind of.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Bringing everybody's cheated on this show, right everywhere.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Everyone now this is a cheating like.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Different because it's a best friend.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
So I it's a best friend.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And we've seen this couple from the beginning, and this
relationship was born out of him cheating on Kristen.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think at this point they all have all the
same distances because they've all slept at the other.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
None of them have gotten monkey pox though, to our you.
But we appreciate you so much for coming on. But
congratulations on your new books.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
So happy.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
It's very good and I highly advised you to go
out there and buy it and read it, and they
could buy.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
It where anywhere anywhere, yes.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Or download it. It's really nice to hear Andy's voice.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
I think you should just read it.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Well. I mean there's a bad way to do, you
know what.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
There's no bad I like, but coming back coming from
somebody that's not a reader, I really enjoying.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
I really really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Eddie's own Eddie reads every single morning.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
And I told him that I read this book because
he was away overnight trip and he said, oh my god,
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
I know, I'm of you.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I was proud of you too. I was like, damn,
I really was mocking.
Speaker 5 (49:44):
I'm like, ah, sure she read fun of Me, was
going to read her first book ever, and I and
I did.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I read it faster than she listened to.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
That, but she had to listen. It was it took
like it's like it's a.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Long years, nine hours and seventeen minutes.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Okay, I have to piece.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
I was gonna ask him about that. D all right,
Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Make sure to write in any other questions that you
have guests that you'd like to have in the future,
and we will talk to you soon.
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