Two Ts Presents: Talking Traitors with Tamra Judge (EP 6)

Tamra recaps The Traitors episode 6 with guest cohosts, Janelle Pierzina and Cirie Fields!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Talking Traders with Me, Tamra Judge. Hey, guys,
welcome to another episode of Talking Traders with Tamra, and
again we have Janelle back to break down episode six.
But we also have a special guest, somebody that Janelle
knows very well, and that is season one a winner

(00:24):
of the Traders.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Suri.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hi, how are you. I'm good? How are you, ladies?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am good.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Suri. I am so excited now. I
met you at Variety's party forty most Powerful Woman in
Reality TV. It was such an honor to meet you.
We got a picture, we didn't get to chat too much.
I believe your son was there as well.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
He was. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
So, you're a four time contestant on the reality TV
show Survivor, known for your strategic gameplay and social skills.
You are a legend in reality competitive World. Twenty two
you co won Snake in the Grass with none other
than Janelle and Rachel.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Who was on season one as well.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Right Yes, and twenty twenty three, competed in Big Brother
and won the first season of Traders. Recognized of the
most iconic player in Survivor history despite ever.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Winning a game.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Explain that to us?

Speaker 5 (01:25):
I don't know, Tamor I got off the couch and
I was known quote unquote as the woman who got
off the couch because I was a self proclaimed couch potato,
because I watch everything reality like I'm my life, I'm
okay with I was okay with going to work, coming home,
watching a DVR, catching up on my reality programs.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Programs.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Oh no, once you start calling them programs, I mean
you passed a certain age.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Do you also go in your pocketbook to get your
money out?

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
How long have you guys known each other?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Not Jeanette, Well, I've watched Janelle because I watched everything.
I watched Janelle forever, and Janelle is an icon herself
in this reality TV competition world. And then I got
to meet Janelle on Snake in the Grass And when
was that?

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Like that was we were in kind of the thick
of it with COVID.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, and Janelle.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I might have read you were a bit of a
sex symbol.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Too, was I.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I'm sexy modeling.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean I was affiliated with Playboy back in
the day, Like I was a bikini model.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, yes, I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
How Sri, How did you get started in competition shows.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Being a fan and saying sitting on my couch saying no,
don't do that, don't say that.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh my god, my name, it's gonna serib Oh thank god.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm like, what is that somebody's talking. I'm like, yeah, sorry, okay, yes.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So I decided to I don't know, go I thought
I could do it, let me go try it out,
and I was out of my element. I was like,
I went on Survivor dressed like I was going on
the Bahamas cruise, and anyone that knows Survivor knows.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Like I had ankle socks.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I had like a little cute pink hat that wouldn't
keep a drop or water off of you. I thought
I knew what I was getting myself into until I
showed up there, because I was like everybody else, like, yeah,
they just gonna film it somewhere tropical just to.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Make it look good for TV.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
But they're not gonna leave you out there, and they're
gonna give you food. I waited for like six days
for somebody to bring me a sandwich, and none ever came.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Oh my gosh, Now was your outfit as bad as
Janelle's outfit Bird Watching outfit.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh my god, episode worse.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Janelle's outfit was fabulous compared to what I had.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I had to prepaint it fucking out.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You guys had on all one color killed me. That
really killed me.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
What gave you the confidence on traders to go behind
other contestants back and take the money for yourself?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
So it was so at the end for us.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
After the last competition, they separated us for the rest
of the day, so I never got to see Andy, Quinton, Ari, Kate.
I never saw Well this is after Kate's gone. I
never saw anyone else, and I had time to sit
by myself. And that's the worst thing you can do,
is give me time to think. And I'm sitting there thinking, Geez,

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I already told Ari I would just go to the
end with him, But damn, Ari has only been a
trader for like fifteen seconds, Like, is that fair?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Should I just.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Give Ari half of the money because we recruited him
so late in the game. Now, you know, I would
think somebody like Ari could appreciate you the ability to
have a change of heart and a change of mine,
especially him.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, Well, what broke my heart was Andy oh.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So, here's the thing, Tamra and I can't convey this enough.
And whether people believe me or they don't believe me,
that's on them. I never had. The only lie I
had to tell in the Traders was that I was
a faithful everything else, all I did was make friends.
All I did was make friends with the people I

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started the game with when I got on the train.
When I entered the train, the civilians I'll call them,
were already on the train and we had as signed seating.
My seat and Rachel's seat was with Andy and Michael,
and from that we blossomed a friendship. From that moment.
I told them during that train ride, I sat with you.

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I started this game with you guys. I want to
ride it out with you guys. And I meant that,
and I did that, and I never I didn't have
to manipulate Andy, I didn't have to trick any body.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I did way less than what y'all have going on
right now.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I never offered up anybody's name, like ooh, I think
so and so is a trade.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think Cody's a trader. I think Christians are traded.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, I sat at the round table and I listened
to the discussion, and if something ranged true with me
or something that I saw and agreed with, I may
have agreed with. But I never And that's why I
hate the term backstep. I didn't backstab anybody. I played
my game and I was myself.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well you you know who did name names? Oh my gosh,
that would be to know.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh that was that was aggressive act.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Because she's played with me.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I don't hide anything when I play like I'm like
an open book, which is also not the best game.
But like I was on the poverty right away, Siri,
and you know, like I was.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And Snake in the Grass. I was impressed with that.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, like Dan and Parverd and me were so.
But I didn't voice it to the other Faithfuls right
away because I thought it would benefit my game to
kind of work with them a little bit moving through
the game, because they wouldn't necessarily murder me. Right, I'm
sure you experienced as well. Rachel and Stephanie worked with you,
so you protected them absolutely.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I never want their names.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Even if they came up and the tour was shut
down immediately, like it was, there was a no go
for Stephanie or Rachel because you want to keep people
who are supporting you.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
There was a no go for Andy.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
We wouldn't even consider Andy's name never even came up, right,
So anybody that was a supporter of mine, I definitely
didn't want to murder them.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
I wanted to keep that Adra would kill Tamer then
I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, I think she secretly doesn't like me. I'm going
to take it up at the reunion.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I'm so bummed that you guys are all going to
New York next week.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I am not going because I'm in full production of
the Housewives and it would just be too much time
away where in the heat of it right now? So
what a Yeah? I know, I know I'm bombed. I'm bombed,
But what can I do now?

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I have a question for both of you. Which game
is the hardest Traders have I ever? Big Brother or
Snake in the Grass?

Speaker 6 (08:13):
For me, big Brother is the hardest person okay, because
it's so long and so mental, where Traders is just
so purely social. So big Brother to me is I
mean that takes me a good two months to calm
down with my mind. Yeah, I would say Traders took

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me like a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I was.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
I was speed texting camera after my banishment.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Because I was just so mad.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You guys, I think people don't understand, and I didn't
really expect this, but after I got home, it really
did take two weeks for me to get my head
out of the game because you were you were almost
like brainwashed because you had no outside conversations with anybody
who had no phone. I mean, I wouldn't call that
tea that we had, and the I mean, come on,

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and then it's just you're like.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
In a video game, yep, and it takes you a
while to get out of it.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Well, that's why Big Brother is the hardest, because it
was one hundred days of exactly what you just said, Tamra,
minus any sort of television or outside stimulation.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Period, and it's constant.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
It's like your mind is in a vice grip. My
body would react like I would. I would go to
bed early because that's the only way for me to
shut it off. So I would go to bed at
ten o'clock. I didn't care what was going on. Ten o'clock,
I'm going to bed right and then I would wake
up before the Good Morning House Gus, it's time to
get up for the day, and that's how you're awake,
awoken and Big Brother. But before that would come on,

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my body would start getting test like I was tense.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I would get nervous.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I would get kind of anxious because I knew it
was coming, and I knew the light was going to
be blaring, and I knew the music was going to
be on, and I knew.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It was game on all over again.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
It was like Groundhall's day for ninety three read days.
So to me, yeah, to me, big Brother.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
For me, Big Brother was the hardest.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I could sleep on the beach without food and getting
bitten by bugs anytime.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh, that sounds wonderful, said no one.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Ever, Now their fans are asking, do you still talk
to Felicia?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I have.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Felicia and I only spoken one time, and that's when
we presented for a reality TV awards show we presented together. However,
I did just get Felicia's number from my son yesterday
right hand, and I said, you know why, and.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'm gonna say it here because in the house and
Felicia can attest to this. I always played Devil's advocate
against myself because I always overanalyze anything and listen name
to the current chatter from Ari and the other folks
from the Traders. It made me look at my game

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with Felicia, and I questioned myself, like, am I being hypocritical?
Because I think what Ari and them are, what Ari
specifically is doing, is bs right, especially Ari in particular,
because he should understand changing your mind.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I mean, you were the one that changed your mind
on your show.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
So if that was a dirty play, if my mind
changed was a dirty play, then I.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Guess you played dirty too.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
So I asked myself, am I being hypocritical by being
semi butt hurt by Felicia in a game?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It was a game, though, right, So if Ari's.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Butt hurt and I'm looking at him be but hert
and I'm saying that he's but her, am I.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Being hypocritical by doing the same thing?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
And I had this conversation with my son and with
my friend Izzy, and I was like, you know what,
I don't want to be that right. I want to
I'm going to reach out to Felicia. I'm a let
her know how I feel and why I feel this way.
But it was a game and I got to move on. Like,
we spent a lot of time together. So I don't
hold any grudges against Felicia, and I'm gonna let her
know that.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah. I know.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
For me, I really thought that Dan was the one
that murdered me. I was convinced, and so he would
reach out to me and I would give him, you know,
half ass answered or not respond. He'll like call me,
call me, I want to talk, and I'm like, I
talking to you. You murdered me. But I totally get it.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do you think it's.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Easier to win?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I know, is it easier to Wint to show this
show as a trader or faithful in your opinion?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Oh, it depends on your ability, your trader traitor's ability.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like right now, isn't not looking too good.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
I was talking with my friends and my izzy and
my son. We have a podcast too. I was saying, Oh,
I don't know. Right at this point, it looks like
the faithfuls may be able to pull it out in
my opinion, so it depends on your ability to be
a trader. And I think Fadra's doing a fabulous job.
I think the only problem though.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Is the Lord.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Praise the Lord.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think the.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Only thing is what trist Schell said last night, and
the fact that Trashelle picked up on it was genius,
like she saw through Dan's ploy and she figured out
Dan knows. And I said this on my podcast. The
villagers are getting hungry and if you don't serve them
up a trader soon they're gonna start looking to the
left and the right of them.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And Dan, knowing that, tried to offer up a trader.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
So if they follow in that vein, it might get
a little sketchy for a Fadra. And I think it
was particularly humorous that we attended another one of Dan's funerals.
This is Dan's second funeral, and who else to be
the funeral officiant then Fadra?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Isn't that her line of work?

Speaker 6 (13:57):
It was such a great episode. I was dying, but yeah,
I like Dan had been And I don't know, you know, Tamra,
because even in episode two, if you remember, you were
still there, We're all you were on to Dan. Larsa
was on to Dan. You had MJ breathing down his
neck and he kept saying, I'm gonna give you a name,
and would I give you a name? I'm not gonna

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miss Do you remember that?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Do you think the Dan played the game.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Well, I know, given up that name earlier, like give
us if you're gonna turn on a trader, like, do
it a little bit sooner, because I feel like him
turning it up on Vader was just like too little
too late.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I think, yeah, well he was in desperate mode.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
He knew going too little too late, like it needed
to be like an episode or two previous, like serve
it up now so we start trusting you because we
don't trust.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
You, right, But even if you're serving it up and
you know I love poverty, black widdle for life, yes,
why not serve it up on the trader that people
are already suspicious?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
So why do you ran pull.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Phadrin's name out the hat? So everybody goes, huh, that's
what I Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
What.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Dan you could have? They were on too poverty, people
to poverty. So if you're gonna offer him up a
trader to the villagers, offer up.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
The one man already on?

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Why did you Because he went to work with poverty
and that was his downfall.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
That's his number one though. And I know Dan when
he is working with you, and he usually just works
with one person. If he works with that one person.
He is extremely loyal to that one person.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, if you Okay, so Kate came back the season,
let's say next year or next season they call one
of you guys to come back.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'm almost positive you would go back, right, I.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Would go back, But I feel like I would have
such a huge bullseye on my best It would be
like a neon lighted target saying I would walk in
the room and my name, instead of being three would
be target.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hi target to say, hellot of target.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I agree with that. What about you, Jane?

Speaker 6 (16:03):
I would love to go back, absolutely, like of course,
I would say yes and a heartbeat.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
And if you should go back, in the capacity to
give like Allan a day off like Alan had to
go to the tailors.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I'm here, guys.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
And we'll put you in one of those fabulous outfits anywhere.
And if you were to go back, would you want
to be a faithful? Would be better for you to
be a faithful or a trader?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Coming in mid season?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
I don't think it would matter because they're going to
think I'm a trader and they're gonna target me either way.
But I think I could not be a trader again.
It would be too obvious.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
I would want to be a well, I'd love to
play the faithful role again, but I would love to
be a trader. I was begging to be a trader
for this season, like many gamers that were put into
this game, just like you camera. So I would love
to play like a different game would be so fun.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, well, let's go ahead and get into the episode.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
This is episode six. It starts out with Dan says.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
This murder was a huge gamble and risk, but if
it works, it'll be a huge reward. The fifth murder
has been attempted, but Bergie has a shield, so we'll
be arriving at breakfast. Did you guys see Dan's face
when Bergie walked in the breakfast room.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yes, he looked I know Dan, and he was immediately scared,
like he was shook.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
As he should have been.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
It was a fatal mistake and I don't know why.
I mean, they harvedy. I don't think wanted to go
with Bergie at the previous night's tourist She said.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
No, it was kind of skeptical.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
They should have fought more, like, you know, this is
a trap, you being fed this information? Like why I
walk into the spider's web, but you know it late
by then they did it right.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I loved when Peter said, checkmate, Yes, yes, Peter, Peter
poverty eater.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Oh my god, I love that. So I have to
give it to Peter. I have to give it to Peter.
He is a trader slayer this season, Oh.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
My god, is he? But I'm worried for him.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I'm worried next week something's gonna happen to him. But
we saw the cliffhanger.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
So here's the thing I'm pinion about this. I think
he should accept. I think if I'm Peter, I'm accepting
because it can only go one of two ways. Right,
Either Poverty and Faeder are going to overtly target Peter
once he's a trader, which I don't think makes sense,
or they just handed Peter a two hundred and fifty

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thousand dollars check because nobody is ever going to suspect
Peter of being a trader.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
And that's why, if I'm Peter, I'm taking it.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
And then and then I'm going to I'm gonna have
to stay in the vein that I'm on and I
have to continue saying poverty because if I was to
switch up, then I'm going to look suspect, and I
could explain that to Poverty, like I'm not gonna overtly
come after you, but when the discussion is held, I'm
going to maintain my stance that I think you're a trader.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I have to hance potentially getting rid of Poverty.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
And that's why I think if Peter accepts, he could
potentially have his name written on the chest.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So you think you agree it's a smart move for Poverty.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
To I think it's a terrible move.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I think I don't think it was a smart move.
I think I think I agree with Janelle. I think
it was a terrible move because of the reason I
just said.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, so you think it's a terrible.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Move for them to recruit him, but not.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Okay, okay, Okay, I get it.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
I get a terrible move because as you know, like
you and I know Peter, Peter's personality is like super
loyal and he's like so in this I don't even
think he's he's just trying to get the faithfuls to win.
At this point, he was so kindlians and I was
in it with him, like he's not turning on Trishell.

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He's not turning on John, is not turning on Burgie.
He won't turn his back on Kevin. Like, well, if
he does accept, I'm gonna be like, oh my god,
like what a great game move. But like, knowing him,
I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Know, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
He's so loyal that I'm I'm like, oh God, he's
not gonna accept, and then it's over.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
His loyalty.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Though he doesn't have to target Bergie and Trichelle and
John once he's a trader, he could actually protect them
a little more and still be playing a great game
for himself. So if he's afraid of being murdered, which
I think would be foolish on Poverties and Favor's part
to even attempt to murder him, I think to the

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attempt to recruit him was foolish. But I think the
advantage lies with Peter. I think the opportunity lies with Peter.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
I would say the better move for me personally, looking
at that alliance and knowing how many numbers they have
and they're known faithfuls, like the alliance is called the Faithfuls,
why not recruit Trischelle.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
That's what I was going to ask you guys two questions.
Who would you recruit if that was if you were
Poverty in Phedra, you know, but it.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Could be my fangirl crush on him, though, I would
recruit CT because nobody's looking at the Teddy Bear either,
And I think CT has enough gaming experience that he
would be able to maintain his composure and keep it
hidden that he's a trader. They would never find out
that CT was a trader. So if it was me
and I was there, I would definitely I would want
CT in that turret with me helping me make game decisions.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Let's say the rules were different and Alan didn't tell
them they had to recruit somebody, but to go ahead
and with the murder. If they murdered Peter, wouldn't it
make it obvious that Poverty was a trader?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Even if it didn't, even if you were saying, oh,
that's too obvious, you would have to banish her just
for GP, just for GP, because it was so blatantly
obvious that, you know what, even if we were we're
gonna take this shot. Because Peter knew he was going
to get murdered because he was exposing traders. So if
you're a trade, if you're not a trader, sorry, but
we banishing you tonight.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
When when they show Dan sitting back, you know, I'm
just gonna enjoy your coffee, Dan, just enjoy your coffee.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I ate that little smug look on his face, like
you thought he won. And all I can think is,
just choke on your fake smile. While Bergie walks in,
just choke on.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's his movement. He's just and then all of a sudden,
he's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Bergie walked in. He still said he was going to
enjoy murdering Peter. So Dan still didn't think he was
going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
I'm like, oh, well, well let's see what's gonna happen
at this round table.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, well, Peter, he was very outspoken this episode, and
Peter says that the rent at the one the breakfast table.
Peter says, Dan in Parverty's face, said it all. He
is so onto them. Parverty wants to convince Peter she
isn't a trader.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
She says she's suspicious of him planning seats. Peter says he's.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Trying to work with her and she's not giving him
anything now. I mean, you know, Parvety, she's ballsy, so
this is a really ballsy move.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
But to turn it around on him. But to me
as a viewer, she just looks she's making herself look guilty.
She's making herself more and more look like a trader.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
To me, I completely agree, I completely and I'm no party.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
And that's what I'm like, Oh know you doing girls?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Especially to walk into them in the what were they
in a library and like oh what is this?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
And to try to imply like one of them might
be a trader.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
It was like it was so lack luster and so transparent,
and I'm like, oh, almost cringey, Like stop doing that
hard making yourself look more guilty.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Though it was just me.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I'm so proud of Peter for not being swayed by
poverty or dan like, he's just no way he.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
He cat onto them for a while now, and I
think that there's he's there's no way for them to
get him, get Peter off the scent. There's just no
they would have murder him or recruit him at this point.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, in the kitchen when he talked aboth them, I'm like,
oh my god, Peter, I love you so much right now.
Bye Danny Boy, Bye, Danny Boy. We'll see you later.
Are you at the reunion?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Quite impressive, I have to say, Peter identifying them right
off the bed and stick into it and being like
a bulldog with it is quite impressive if he was
not being swayed whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
So salute to Peter, I know.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
In today's mission, the players have a chance to add
twenty thousand dollars to the price fund. Players will be
firing canniballs out of catapult and they must find the
catapult pieces along the way and carry them. They will
also have to compete to earn a shield. The players
start their treacherous journey. Michelle sees the shield box and
she and Kevin start to race for it. Peter, Charret,

(24:50):
Sandra and Poverty find the next shield. Everyone is struggling
to carry all the catapult material.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
All I was thinking was when you guys, when they
went through the water, I'm all, thank you Jesus. I
wasn't there. That looked miserable because it was so cold.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
So that current is strong. You can tell by how
fast the water's running.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
And most of the girls were falling on their face
and I'm like, oh, I can't stand to be cold.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm like, oh god, I would never have.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
To be cold, and I hate it. Going through that river,
it was like, oh my god. And like Janelle said,
the current was kind of like we literally had to
hold on like crabs in a barrel to keep from
falling down.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
And thank god, because if Ida fell down and.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Was soaking wet like Sandra fell down, I'd have been like, Okay,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and then you have to run for another forty
five minutes.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
And we had to put barrels, heavy ass barrels all
the way, and the barrels were the money, unlike the
catapult that you guys had.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I was very happy that they chose Johnny Wood to
go ahead and launch launched it, and he was so
excited about it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
He's like, this is the most exciting thing that's ever
happened to me before.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
John is just cute and a character like just I
think adorable.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Don't you agree? Though he was so confusing when he
first came in. He talked so much.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Were like we were just like, what is he doing?
I know, like even last night's banishment, they had to
cut that speech by about eight minutes. I'm sure it
was like a twenty minutes, like twenty minute speech.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It brought me back to being at the roundtable.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
And he likes to go on and on and on,
and he liked like he loves to talk, and he's
the words he uses, the words he uses. He's a
great debater, he's a great speaker. He's a politician.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
You will listen.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, what politicians that you know doesn't like to speak
and go on and on blob blobt.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
That's what I told him, Like, John, you just went
around your elbow to get your ass.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just get to the point. Why can't you just tell
us what you're thinking?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I like that use that Poverty went for the shield.
Did that make her look less suspicious?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
No, no, not at all, I think in her mind
and just basic thinking. Yeah, you would think, oh she's
gone for the shield. She must think she's gonna be murdered.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
But I think at that point the suspicion is too
thick on poverty, especially from Peter in that the faithful
click whatever. So I don't think there was anything that
Poverty could do to get them off her trail or
to prove to them that she's not a trader once
you get that scent, once you get a taste of
it or a whiff of it, kind of like us

(27:32):
on Snake in the Grass to now, once we knew
that it was Stephanie, there was nothing that Stephanie.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
We were going to go all the way.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, well not she could do to say I'm not
the snake. We're like, yeah, sure you're not.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
No.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Poverty keeps going, and she's like Peter is on a
holy crusade playing the leader of the faith Balls. She
wants to break the group apart and get rid of Peter.
Parverty mentions it's very suspicious that Peter, Bergie, John Kevin,
and Trachelle are locked in together. Peter agrees, saying he
could be a trader. He's he's just the twist and
turns with this guy, or just too good. Dan tells

(28:08):
Peter he's been working on one person as a trader
and he will reveal them tonight. This to me just
looked really fake and desperate. Dan asked Peter to consider
what he's saying, and Peter agrees. Dan's willing to do
whatever it takes. It's time for him to go after
his fellow trader.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I think that Dan would have kept that same energy
but targeted poverty instead. It might just a slim chance
that it might have played out differently for him. The
fact that he picked Faedra was his fatal flaw. Nobody's
looking at Fadra, nobody's suspicions of Faedra. Why out of

(28:46):
the blue? You've been watching Phaedra since they want And
that was his flaw. And that's why I didn't got banished.
Outside of the fact that you could look at his
face and his body moving, he just seemed weird, even
pushed through it from a viewer, he seemed uncomfortable maybe
is the word. And you could kind of see like

(29:07):
something's wrong, what's the matter, like chill it relaxed?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Why can't you relax because you're a trader.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
That's why he wasn't acting like himself. He was so
scared and just not He's usually like a very he's
got he smiles more, he laughs, he smiles. He just
never smiled ever, right.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Right, And that's what I'm saying about to you guys
about my season.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
The reason I was such a good trader is because
I just was myself.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I didn't do anything extra. I didn't try to make
no big dramatic scenes. I just did what like what
we're doing right now. This is what I did as
a trader. I didn't do anything. I didn't hide, I
didn't act suspicious. I just had a good time and
made friends and got to know people.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And Dan's right game is I.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Would say your social game is one of the best
in the business though, like players like Dan is just
so good, Like he's a good backstabber, he's a good strategy.
I think your social game is like perfect because everyone
just gravitates towards you.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
The acting part of it really gives it away, especially
if you know that person and you're like why because
I know Chara and to me, I got suspicious of
her at times because she was so quiet and I
don't know her as being quiet.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And then I had to.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Think about it and I'm like, after the fact, I'm like, well,
you know what, every time we do something that's out
to dinner, it's just four people, so there's a lot
of conversation. But she is just, I guess normally just
really quiet. So it kind of threw me off a
little bit. But I knew poverty was I had suspicion
of poverty. During the funeral possession, I can't even talk. Yeah, yeah,

(30:42):
yeah that so she you know, it was down to.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
The three of them and they're walking and she looked
over at you know, where I was standing. She's like, oh,
my god, is it me?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
And I'm like, oh, that is the worst, the worst
acting I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what I find.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I find that when the traders go out of their
way to perform is usually when they get caught. Christian
on my c event saying that he was recruited unnecessary,
he got banished. Cody saying, well, Ryan told me such
something that he wouldn't tell Kyle, who was his best friend.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
It was unnecessary. Anytime they do Dan.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
With this, I've been watching this person since day one.
All the unnecessary inks and antics is what gets the
traders banished. Stop with all extra chill out. Just be
yourself or.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Just act like a faithful just act normal, like you're
like they never us. They didn't trader hunt you, did
you trader hunts free? Did you participate in trader hunting?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
So when you say participate, what would happen is somebody
would come and say, what do you think about so
and so. Did you see when they did this, this
and so? And if I saw it, I.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Would say, oh, you know what, I did see them
do that, But I wasn't thinking on that level. But
now that you mentioned it, yeah, that is kind of suspicious.
But what I never did was, Hey, did you see
Janelle how she came in to breakfast?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
No, because I didn't have to.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
It wasn't There was so many other detectives doing the
work for me. When you start doing the extra is
when you start to expose yourself. So I just would
participate in if I didn't agree. Like I told Michael,
I would never vote for him. On the train, I
told him that and Andy on the train. This is
day one just met. On the train, we locked in,
I'm not going to vote for you. So when everybody

(32:36):
in the villagers was like Michael Michael, I kept my
word or I didn't vote for Michael. So that's the
only time that I'm going to stand out. When it's
something that I told you I want to vote for you,
I'm not going to vote for you.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't think you're a trader. Other than that, I
went with the group. Well, I fright the system I
went with the group.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
If y'all come up with some good reasons and it
makes sense and it has the quote unquote ring of truth,
Yeah sounds.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Good, I think, Yeah, well I have to go with
the group.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah right. So well, now we're at the roundtable.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Dan announces since day one he's been watching one person
and it's finally time for it to come out. Dan
has one question for everyone. He asked them to raise
their hand if their name has been written down at
least once on the chalkboard. Dan says the least suspicious
people are Burgie, Charret, Phaedra, Sandral and Parverty. He talks

(33:27):
about voting patterns, asking who voted weirdly. Dan calls out
Parverty and Faedra. Are you guys like understanding dramatics?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It was so dramatic. I'm like, wait a minute, what
is this algorithm? What?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's the name the algorithm.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
What what the fuck was he doing?

Speaker 6 (33:45):
He's calling people out here spot because that's Dan's style.
When he's ready to go after the kill, He'll put
you in the group and a lot of times you
don't have enough time to think about it, and you
can't defend yourself.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
I just didn't understand his logic of questions.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
He's question making his case.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it was really weird people answered.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'd even like what I would have.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Said, kiss my ass.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Tamer would have been like, where the hell are you
going with this?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I'd be like, kiss my ass, dude, I'm not answering
your god damn questions. Dance's parverty only votes outside the norm?
Was Kevin that least Phaedra. Dan emphasizes how Faedra voted
out a ca nsue and then she was murdered that night.
Next thing, he noticed breakfast reactions when Marcus, Tamra, and
Bergie were murdered. She always have a big reaction. Now,

(34:37):
I think Kate said it best. It's like, have you
seen her? Everything about her is a big reaction. So
Aedra's face the entire time is like, are you shitting
me right now?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Is this happening?

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, that's how my f was.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I was asked a jaw on the floor because I've
been waiting since last week. When he said I'm going
to let you know who I've been watching since day went,
I'm like, who.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Could he possibly attempted?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Never in my wildest dreams did I think it was
going to be Phaedra, so my face was just like Fadri's.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
But Dan went.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Barking up the wrong tree and in the famous words
of another housewife, don't come for me unless I sent
for you, and he came for the wrong person, which
he did.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
I think we all agree that throwing Phaedra under the
bus was not the right move, and also.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
The reasons he backed it up with, like the ekinzuvo
no one Everyone's like, what what you got poisoned?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
End?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Like no one cares.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now, I personally think Dan and I might be wrong.
Should have gone after Poverty because there was so much
suspicion about her name already, So why throw in Phaedra.
I mean, I know we've talked about this earlier, but
it just was weird.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Smarter, not harder.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
The work was done for him already. Oh he had
to and say.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
You know, I hate to say this because I was
trusting this person, but trusting them allowed me to watch
them closely. Since and I do agree with you guys
that it may be that Parvety' is a trader. That
would have gotten him a way better shot at stay
in than going after Phaedra.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, so now it's time to vote.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's the first time ever that all three people that
were written down on chalkboard were a trader.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's the very first time.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, So eleven votes for Dan, one vote for Poverty,
and one vote for Fedra. Both party and both Pedra
and Poverty voted for Dan.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Peter voted for Poverty.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Now, that was a twist, your vote, But because he
knew that he could pin it on her, like, oh, hey,
hopefully if you don't murder me, if I if I
write your name on it, I'm the only one, it's
even gonna look more suspicious.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It was a good game move.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
It was a good game move.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I think he knew that Dan needed to go, and
there was gonna be enough votes for Dan to get
him out, but to throw the suspicion out there, like
I've called Dan out and he's gonna go, and you're
gonna find out he's a trader. And then I'm gonna
say Parvaty's name because trust me.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Murder me exactly exactly. MVP so far, Oh he is
he is?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Now, Alan tells the players not to get too comfortable.
The traders are wounded and the predator is most dangerous.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
When wounded.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Trachelle thinks Phaedra is actually a trader because Dan was
trying to sacrifice the trader to save himself. Smart, She's smart,
she knew.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Good on Trochelle. I was.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
I was highly impressed with that, like exactly Trousselle spot
on and if I just don't know, and in my discussions,
I don't know this. Can can Trichelle move the crowd?
Can she get her group of faithfuls to listen to
her logic and target Phaedra? I don't know that yet
remains to be seen.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Not sure.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, now, see because I don't want to send off
my Amazon thing over there. If people would have brought
your name up at the round table last season, would
you have thrown another trader name out there?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Would that be your strategy?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Know what?

Speaker 5 (38:01):
My when my name was brought up, I kind of
defended myself in like, you give me examples of why
you think I'm a trader, and I'm going to rebut them.
I don't kind of do what Fader did. I want
to rebut what you said. I'm not going to attempt
to throw another trader under the bus. No, I didn't
target anybody, and I'm not, because that just makes you
look guilty.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
It's deflection. I'm going to address what you're saying to me.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I'm going to address the accusations that you're making about
me and make you understand why they're foolish and they
don't make any sense. Yeah, I think that carries more weight,
and that's more impressive to people than you throwing someone
else under the bus for sure.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Do you think, Janelle, do you think Dan could have
said anything anything to convince the group or to save
his us.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
I don't think so. I think he screwed up for
weeks saying he was going to give a name, and
he gave my name, and then everyone was like, Okay,
well if she goes out as a faithful like you,
that's your name.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Really, m looks so bad on him.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
I don't think he could have done anything. He he
only had one move left to make after my banishment,
and that's to go after a trader. But he needed
to start planting seeds immediately, right, not at the end. Right.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know, you only have thirty forty.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Minutes to get through this round table, so you need
to plant those seeds in the morning, like watch, Like
he should have immediately pointed at Fader, said, you were smiling.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
You were smiling.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Why are you looking like that, Phaedia, Why are you
smiling like that if you're going to go after Phaedra
this grand stand, grandiose thing. At the end, it just
was like it's fizzled out.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah. Now, Faji and Poverty meet to discuss their next murder.
There's a knock at the door. It's Alan.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
He tells them they have the opportunity to recruit a
trader or murder a faithful tonight. The person they recruit
can either accept or refuse the offer. If they refuse,
they'll stay a faithful.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
If Faeder and Poverty chose to seduce, there will be
no murder. Marveitie thinks they need to recruit to shake up.
She's suggests seducing Peter to start turning the tables, but
it's risky. Phaedra was pretty like, whatever you want to do.
I was shocked.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Peter is a leader in this clique and he has
been gunning for the traders hard. Would you accept and
join the other side if you were him, or stay
with your faithfuls.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
If I'm Peter, I'm taking it.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I'm accepting it because I've already established that I'm a
trader hunter, and nobody in this group is going to
or just out of the blue now decide that, oh,
Peter must be must be a trader, especially once Peter
was leading the charge against Dan and Poverty and Dan
turned out to be a trader.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm going to accept it and laugh all the way
to the bank.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
If I'm Peter, Yeah, I think it was the best
move to accept it and ride all the way to
the end and maintain his stance on who he thought
was a trader, because if he changes up right now,
it's going to make him look suspicious. So he has
that argument for his fellow traders, like, look, Poverty, I've
been saying your names for the last three tape round tables.

(41:08):
So for me to just out of the blue change
right now, everybody's going to look at me. So I
have to maintain my stance that you're a trader, hence
potentially getting rid of Poverty and still keeping his anonymity
as a trader.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
I mean, if I'm Peter, I'm definitely taking it. If
I'm trying to think about the long term game, and
I know Peter, so he's you know, I don't see
him turning on his alliance. He's just so loyal. But
game wise, if you're playing a game to walk to
the finish line and win, that is a great path
to take, would be to accept the seduction.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I agree, I am.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I cannot wait to see what happens. I cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I'm dying. I can't wait till next week.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
This show is getting better every single episode.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Three episodes. I agree, I agree.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I wish after you get murdered you can just stay
and watch from a window to see what happens.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I'm not, but it is. It's juicy. I mean, I'm
enjoying it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
So many twists and turns, and at this point it's like, okay,
I feel like the Faithfuls are doing really good because
now the Traders have missed. They've missed a murder, they
lost the trader if they missed the seduction to recruit,
and then a trader's going out with the next everyone's
voting for perfecty. It sounds like yeah, yeah, yeah, a

(42:29):
trader's game.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah right, And Trichelle's already on to potentially Pajia.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
If they continue to listen, like it's almost lined up.
It's lined up perfectly, but you don't know.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
In this game with twists and turns, there may be
some twists that can unravel everything and put the traders
back in the first position.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Trischelle probably surprised me the most because I didn't know
her and I don't know her you.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Know, ability to play games, and I didn't like, she's
like a uh poker player.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Too, right, hooker player, Like this girl is good. She
just was so sweet and so kind and so pretty
and just like so like I didn't think, you know,
she had a dinner.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
I mean I knew that like right away because I
was like, Okay, you've been on the Challenge, you know
about alliances, you're good flee and your pope, and I
had met her like a long time ago, so I
was like, it was like a natural alliance for me personally.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Yeah, I've never met her, but I've watched her forever
as well as She's a og like CT and Bananas
is from the from the Challenge. So when I saw Chrochelle,
I knew she'd be a force to be reckoned with.
But I was so surprised how quickly she picked up
on Dan trying to uh sabotage a trader to get
the sin off of him.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
So I thought that was genius.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I was like, Shell, Yeah, there's a couple headlines I've
been following, you know, as the show goes on, and
right now parade article came out and said Peter is

(44:11):
the number one pick in this article to win the
entire game, explaining they don't think his faithful crew will
turn on him and it could be dangerous for the
traders to murder him after he'sfully coming after them, not
to mention that of the remaining cast, he seems likely
to earn a few more shields and the challenges coming up,
he's also smart enough to navigate the end game.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And they're just rooting for Peter.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
And yeah, I mean, right now, Peter's got numbers, and
he's got people that trust him, and he's got a
lot of people that trust him. So I don't think
anyone has numbers like that right now. And he's also
correctly identified. I mean, I don't know if he's in
on the show, but Fader's name was definitely out there
with him. He knows who that Fader is a trader,
Like he knows he's like he was the first one
in my life, say Fadra, and I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeow Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yahoo came out with an article saying that The Traders
prove that in reality TV casting is king. By bringing
old school players from the glory days and reality TV
along with housewives whose livelihood is based on their ability
to create drama, the Traders brings genuine conflict back to
competitions where it belongs without it ever getting too uncomfortably real.

(45:24):
This cast that's willing to openly feud votes for others
just because they don't like them and carry bitter grudges
out the door. So, I mean, it's getting so much press.
It is just amazing.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
It's such a good show. And I think it does
really come down to the cast because you put all
these different personalities. But you got to have people that
are gamers. You've got to have like the housewives with
like their wittyness so fun and they make game fun
and funny.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah right, and.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
It's also are just clueless too, so you've got to
have all those elements.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
So, Straight Dreaming numbers came out for ratings and it
is the number one unscripted show in the United States.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Now do you think.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Playing with just reality people is it would be easier
or like, sure, when you were on it, you had
jam thought, yeah you had you know, you had just
regular people, and we're all regular people.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I don't know how to say.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
It, non civilians, non TV people on there.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I think.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
I think it would be more difficult. I think it's
hard either way, because look at for you guys to
season you had all Reality TV stars, and look how
difficult it was for Deontay right. And when I say
that is because it doesn't matter if it's civilians or

(46:57):
if it's Reality TV people. Your emotions get involved, your
anxiety levels are increased. Like you said, it took you
some weeks to kind of decompress. That all remains the
same regardless of if it's civilian people or Reality TV people,
because this becomes your reality. You get so engrossed in
whatever position you're playing that I don't think it really

(47:21):
matters if it's I think the only thing that may
matter is the level of participation, maybe higher from the
gamers people with history of playing games.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Other than that, I think it's just.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
As difficult, irregardless if you're a civilian or reality start.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Do you find that like you had civilians on your
show that were like, you know, fanning out on people
and wanted to get close to them because they're you know,
oh you're my favorite on you know, Big Brother or whatever.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Yeah, that kind of happened for me, Like Michael when
I met them, Michael on the train, he was like,
oh my god, I saw you on Rachel's name and
I couldn't believe it. So I think it might have
helped in my favor a little bit because they know
my history and as Dan. As Janelle speaks of Dan
and says how loyal he is, I'm known also for
being quite loyal to you if you're loyal to me.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
So I think, yeah, that may help you in my.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
In a reality TV person's favor, if they have a
good background, if they have a background of loyalty or
trustworthiness or something other than backstabbing and scheming, Yeah, it
may help in your favor if you're playing with civilians.
But outside of that, not really.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Now back it up. You were actually on that train.
We didn't get a train.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Oh yeah, we went on a Harry Potter train.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
We were at the station and then the train pulled
up and we had assigned seats and we got on
the train and we rode for a little while and
we got to know who we were sitting with. I
was sitting with Rachel, Michael and Andy, and that's how
our friendship started to blossom.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
So yeah, the train we got on, the lovely Harry
Potter train.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
I feel like that's just like Tamra are like the
land Rovers that we were in, and I think that
is so important to the four people. The three other
people that I was with was Bergie Fadra and that's
why I always trusted Fadris so blindly and CT.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
So those I was in guess who was in my car?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I think you were with Dan, weren't you Dan?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Poverty and h etc. And Sue okay wow.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
And then Kevin last minute jumped innoyed the ship.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Out of my initial you know, the first fod the
whatever land Rover because I remember Sandra was always so
close to uh Charat and I remember her being in
that same and Peppermint and she was always so close
with Peppermint and like those Well, because.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
It's your first initial bonding experience or with these people
that you ride with, you know, you're in that car
for a couple hours, and you you know what I mean.
So you're like, oh, and we even like a like
a trust bond as we're driving to the castle, like
it's us, the four of us, the Core four.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Yeah, exactly, and we did the exact same thing. We
were like, I've got your back in this game. Like
I was like, Phaedra, I got you. She's like, girl,
She's like, I trust.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
You no matter what.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
I'm not writing your name down and I never did,
never believed it.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, guys, I could sit and talk to you guys forever,
but this housewife's got to get her face on and
go slice some bitches. So I'm just joking. I'm on
my best behavior. So thank you so much. This was
so much fun. Pleasure to see you again. I don't

(50:42):
want to say your name because you know that thing's
going to go off again.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
See. Well, thank you for having me. This was so
much fun and it's a great season.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Janelle, I miss you, lady. We're gonna have to catch
up outside of this.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna send you a text. We got to
catch up. It's been too long.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, and Janelle, thank you You're amazing as always. I
love you too. You guys have a great weekend, you
do okay, good

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Bye, good bye,