August 31, 2025 • 31 mins
Teddi and Tamra are answering YOUR questions!
Tamra clears up an argument with Heather Dubrow in New Orleans and the never before seen conversation about Gretchen’s inconsistent stories.
Plus, they share advice to their 30-year-old selves, how to support a friend with stage 4 cancer, and their dream Ultimate Girls Trip picks.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Cheese and
Pod with myself and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This is a very special episode.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're in person finally and look we're in bedazzled to
teas and a pod shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I know, okay, So Mel the clothing. Mel underscore the clothing.
If you guys noticed, when I went to Boston at
Finway Park, I had this bedazzled shirt on and she
made it for me. So Jen Guyser from Bravo hooked
us up. She made me that, and she surprised me
with these two teas.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's so funs If you need some bedazzled shirts, I'll
post it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So this is a fun episode because it's a fan
Q and A. We put up something on Instagram. We
had them ask us questions and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I haven't looked them over.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Me neither, Oh god, me neither.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So very Veronica Hollenstein asks what do you admire most
about each other?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
My gosh, I think for you, and this goes from
current to from the time I met you, is just
your strength and your ability to just be so strong
like if I ever have a business question, you know this,
I will call you and say what do you think?
And you can think. You know, you're You're very smart,
(01:33):
very sharp and just very like. I don't most people
I don't know if they know this about you, but
business savvy like you. You just and just a strong,
strong person, strong like and you'll and you'll tell me too,
like if I call and complain about somebody, well, okay,
well let me the whole story. Okay, Tamra, maybe you
didn't do this right or you know you give it
(01:54):
to me story.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I want to get it. I want to be pragmatic.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
What I admire about you the most is, honestly, especially
with everything going on, you are a really good friend.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Thank you really are a good friend.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I think that it's been skewed throughout years of television,
but like, there isn't a day that I wake up
that I don't hear from camera and checking in and
even when I'm at my worst, you're there, so I
think you know. Of course, I admire that you're a
great mother. You're you're a great mother too, But also
(02:28):
when we're together, we have so much fun. Together. We
do and it's like not eve.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We have one mind between the two of us. We
can finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But it's I think.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That that's hard to find, especially later in.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Life, Like how I'm sorry I put you into menopause.
You know I always said to you before, like we're
so alike. If I get my period back, I'm not
gonna be friends with you anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Mine's gone now, mine is gone gone.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But you really have been there, like cameras the I
have a friend that I'm like, I think I'm gonna
do a birthday dinner tomorrow at seven.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You don't feel pressure. I'll be there and she's there,
and it's like it's just so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I think I get a bat. You said bad
rap because what you guys see me as friends is
on a TV show where it's very hard to have friends.
Everybody has gone after everybody. My friends that I've had,
I've had for twenty something years. Yeah, that refuse to
come on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Abby prem asked if you could both give your thirty
year old selves advice, what would it be.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think mine would just be just trust the process,
don't stress too much. I think at thirty you know
thirty is a good age. I think thirty is when
you start figuring things out and you becoming a you're
a big girl now, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Me.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Just I think it's hard because I'm trying to think
back I was I had so many kids. No, I
only actually had two at that time. But I don't know.
Just work hard, save money, invest your money. I wish
I would have invested money earlier. Yeah, that's one thing
I wish. It doesn't take much to put X amount
away every single paycheck, and I wish I would have
(04:11):
done that. But I don't know. I think, just don't
worry so much. I was always so stressed of trying
to be something I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, well that's exactly what I was going to say
that end part that you just said. I think, if
you know, if I go back to my early thirties,
I was so worried what people were going to think. Yeah,
that I then wasn't myself. I was more quiet, I
was more reserved. I didn't feel comfortable in my own
skin to say how I actually feel, which is really free.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But then the same advice I would give myself now,
which is try to take it day by day which
is really hard for me.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, been to present.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You are doing that, now try and try it. You're yeah,
but I think you're doing a good job than you're
doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Joey Elsberger asks if we could pick each other's ultimate
girls trip, can.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We just pick a trip that we can all that
we can be on. Let's do it together together. We'll
do that. We're doing this trip together.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So it's us. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Uh huh do you want to do? Like from each cast?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Okay, so let's go down Salt Lake City. Who would
you pick?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, we can't pick everybody we like, because then it
wouldn't be a very I think Bronwyn.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, Bronwin from Salt Lake City, Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm gonna do for sure, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm gonna do Porsia, Potomac. Karen, Karen, Karen who gets
out of jail. I'm about to be getting out of
jail on birthday. She's probably readily available.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, she's ready for it. Beverly Hills, Beverly Hills. I
mean I would want Kyle Kyle. I want Kyle, but
you know we would just be like the trace a Megas,
just hanging out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah. So if we couldn't have Kyle, then I would want.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Those set everybody straight.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't know her very well, and I feel like
in that chaotic and apartment it might be a little
different because that's different than filming Housewife. Yeah in Miami, Miami,
I know you want Stephanie, don't even want I want Stephanie.
I know you're Stephanie. I mean I think Stephanie and
I would probably come to blows so, which would be great,
Which would be great TV yep.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And then she'd take you on her private jet.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well you know what, No, she probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She'd put me in the back and I'd have to
be locked up in the bedroom by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But she asked Alexia to go on her private jetting
an assignment.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And then are we missing any other franchises?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh, Orange County, Well that's me, that's yeah, New York.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't even know New York or New Jersey is back, but.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I would I would.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I would want Dolores or Melissa.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I wouldn't Melissa. But I say, throw Teresa in there,
get it all going, let's get this ship started.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I did notice that we will be seeing Teresa soon.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We are on a panel together. I know at Bravo Khan.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Do you think she's still mad at us?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
She I think she's somebody that holds grudges, So I'm
gonna say yes, But I don't know, there's nothing really
to be mad about. We were just recapping the show.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah. Uh, Max Hadid underscore og asked, what's a subtle
red flag you've learned to spot early in a friendship?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Is this in our friendship or in general?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And I'd say a general friendship a red flag. I
think for me it's bragging.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But you love Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
As a housewise, I didn't say I want to be
friends with her.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
For me, it's more.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Of like a feeling I have within the second.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, it's good, Like I'm good like that with people
like I can be like there's something quite not right.
But when somebody's trying to sell themselves and talk about
themselves and how great they are and how kind.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They are, amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Their marriages and all that stuff, I'm like, no, sorry, no,
I want the real shit. I want you know what.
My husband drove me crazy last night to make kids,
you know what, the little burgers. I want to kick
him out of the house, you know what I mean,
Like they're so hard. I went down to earth. Yeah,
that's what I.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Like, down to earth. I also want somebody who can
tell me it like it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Is, yeah, and not sugarcoat things.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Not sugarcoat things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And some of them makes freaking laugh, Like if you're
not gonna make me laugh, well, and if stories don't add.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Us, stories are stuffy, really stuffy. That's hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
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Speaker 3 (08:26):
Doing good at the Ace, Sabrina shorten that name. You
become famous one day. Nobody's gonna be able to find you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Who was the biggest flirt at Bravo Con.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I don't think anybody flirts with me.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I mean I think it's an equal thing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And he's not flirting, it's just who he is.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, he's just.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Very handsy and lovey and huggy and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And he also, you know, he's Southern. So those Liken
guys are very like how's it going, and complimentary and nice.
But I mean, I don't think for one second sheps
interested in me.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Who know, you never know. Maybe for me you and Shep,
I feel like no like brother and sister like.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Brother this year will be me and Shep, But I'm like,
who would be my options for this year?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Did you hear that Jacks was kicked off a Bravo
con What happened? Like, that's serious shit.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well maybe just.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
With everything else getting the boot, it just for his
well being, because that's where people tend to go and have,
you know, some missteps.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, he's been on Bravo for years and there's
people that are not even on Bravo right now that
are getting invited. So I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I have a feeling it might be why when I
watched back on some of these episodes there was a
bunch of substance abuse like warnings and things like that.
So I have a feeling that that kind of stuff
gets involved. Maybe it's a liability.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Maybe maybe, but I don't really know because I was like,
whoa he got kicked off the rasta Ye.
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
Do we find it exhausting to keep up our images collabs?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes, yes, yes I do. I'm afraid. I'm like, you
know what the show is keeping me young? You know
what I mean? Like I will always work out because
that's just my thing. I've been doing it since eighteen
years old in sports when I was younger. But you know,
it's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I would say, it's the moments of like pure exhaustion
where you're just like, I can't do it anymore. And
there are moments where like today when you walked in,
I was already so tired and I was like, oh
I'm writing this, But the second I felt your energy,
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Like, Okay, spicy, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I mean it's exhausting, Like I don't I would I
have hair extensions?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Would I be Would you rather be in office from
nine to five?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, I'd want to be retired. I don't want to
work anymore. I want to do the podcast. That's what
I want to do, and you know, collect my Vina
checks that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
When filming a reality show, do you catch yourself confusing
who you are deep down with who you are on camera.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
When that goes up when filming or watching when filming
a reality show, do you catch yourself confusing who you
are deep down?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
M Holly Luriy's asked this.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Holly Laurie asked this. You know I heard on an
interview recently. I don't know it was Emily or I
think it might have been Emily where she says, you know,
the thing with camera is like off camera, she's so quiet,
she doesn't really go out much. You know, she's so reserved,
But on camera, I'm a different person. I think that's true.
(13:13):
But I think there's an alcohol component when I film
that gets me heightened and gets me to the level
that I'm at and gives me the courage to call
people out. Were in my normal everyday life, I would
never do that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We're in my normal everyday life, I would.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You would, Oh, you call people out that don't even
need to be called out. I'm like, Teddy, let's really down. Now,
it's really down, I would.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Say for me on camera, I think it's I was
always about getting in my head too much.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You were calmer on I.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Was calmra on camera and I also, I didn't really
know people very well at the beginning, so I think
that And is.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
That your first reality show you've ever done? Yes, And
so that's a big deal to just jump right into it.
And plus you were going through some crap to you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Going through personal shit. I also.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Was the youngest on the cast by the lot, had
the least amount of money, like, and all of a sudden,
I'm you know, showing up on my platform shoes and
my your waving shorts.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I'm like, oh, and had a man Ben.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm like, oh, I don't go here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's like Denise coming into the show. True Religion's on.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Gosh, Chrissy Kat eighty three asked, my best friend forever
has staged four metastatic mel noma. How do I support her?
And the best possible? Oh my gosh, you know sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's first of all, so so sorry about that. And
you know, we can speak about that on both sides,
because you know, there is another side to cancer, and
that's the people that are surrounded by you and the
people that love you that feel helpless and are scared
and are you know, going down the deep rabbit hole
of Google of what's what to expect, which is never
(14:58):
a good thing. And you know, for me personally, you
see on the show like I was devastated, devastating, not eating,
not sleeping, stressed out, concerned, wanted to be with you,
didn't want to be doing this. You were at that
point not even there.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, I was like non response, non responsive, and.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think they know nothing. It's just it's just being there.
And I think another thing for me is like I
don't want to always ask you how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, but I think what's good and what you've learned,
which I think back in the New Orleans days, you
hadn't like if I didn't write you back, you would worry.
I'd worry, and now you know, it's just she's probably
not feeling very good to struggling. Yeah, just know that
it's not about necessarily how I'm feeling that day, or
(15:47):
that I don't want to talk to somebody. It's just
that like sometimes I can't be there the way I
would want to be there, So I'm just not there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And it was hard for me as well in the
sense that we were we talked every day, we were
on the podcas cast, every day, we were traveling, we
were in New Orleans three weeks prior to all this,
and then it went from that to the only time,
and it's still there's still a big distance still because
you're not you're not good with your phone, or you're tired,
or you're at a doctor's appointment. So it's a totally
(16:17):
different and you mourn that friendship as well.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I wanted to and I have that with all of
my friends that but I'm super close with.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
But it'll come back.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It'll come back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And also just know, just say, just as simple, I
love you thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's enough.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Does it bug you when people are like, how are you?
What are you like?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Too many questions, too many questions, too many questions.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well that's just in general.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean that's pretty much me in life. Okay, this
is Raider.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Jojo asked if you could have the other squash the
beef with someone at Bravo Khan this year.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who would I have you squashed the beef with? I
would want you to squash the beef with Cratching.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I've tried to watch the Beef with Gretchen all season long,
and you will see as we go on, it's really
hard to squash the beef with somebody that's repeatedly, you know,
fed fake lies about me. Oh no, but I have
tried Granton.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Do I think that she's lying? One million percent.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I think she's lying. And to me, the issue is
more about Gretchen than it is about Katie at this point.
I think Katie just doesn't know how to be like
a good housewife and just be like what you said
it and you know what, Yeah, then I gossiped about Well.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I think Katie was also scared because Gretchen and Slade
got to her and said, if you repeat this, you
could get fired. And she's new, she doesn't know like this.
This could be like, you can go to court over
this because it is it's illegal, and what they're accusing
me of doing is absolutely one hundred percent illegal. And
I could go after them and I could start deposing
(17:53):
them and getting them, all three of them. And what
about how.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
She's changed her story three times?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, what you don't know is and I don't this
will be a flashback, but when we were at the park, me,
Shannon and Gretchen, when I first questioned her about this,
she did this whole performative.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
This.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
This is why I didn't want to come back. This
is why they had to ask me three times. I'm like, no,
that's called negotiating. And then I go, did you tell
her you went to the hospital, and she said, yes,
I did.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, And then they showed it in the flashback.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But no, they didn't show their original one. And then
I said to her, why did you tell her that?
And and she said because I didn't feel well? And
then and the I don't. I didn't remember in the car,
so then she said it in the car again and
now she's saying, oh, I misspoke, Tamra misspoke, Tamra miss spoke.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like that's how.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
She She's just she's a tough one for me because
she doesn't own anything. She's been coming after me for
a year, but then she plays victim, so it's really
hard for me, you know, and like just makes up
shit like she was on a podcast, Heather mc donald's podcast,
and and I hear that she says something about, well,
the reason my Terramor got baptized. I'm like, do you
(19:03):
know why I got baptized?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And why are we bringing back It's like long ago,
a recap episode.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Obsession of details. It's just too much for me. I
don't even say, Vicky.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, because I mean I feel like at any point
in time that beef could be squashed. I bet if
they brought we've had a few. Yeah, see, I don't.
I don't even bother because I feel like that one
is easy. I feel like if she came back full time,
you guys would be fair.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
We would move forward, especially since she sent you a present.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Without our pictures in it. Oh yeah, who would.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Who would I want you to squash the beef with.
I mean, I don't think you have too many beefs,
do you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean I think my biggest beef was Denise and
squashed it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I would say, probably, Vicky. I think that you like
officially squashed shit. You tried Bravokan last time and that
didn't go over.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I wouldn't say I tried. I was an asshole.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, okay, well, but I would.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Say that when I filmed on OC, Vicky and me
and Shannon were sitting down at a table and like
Vicky and I had a moment where she finally like
understood yeah me. I mean granted, she then came out
and talked about me after, but that touch just fair.
But then I got cancer, So then she started being
really nice.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, Vicky's dealt with people close to her that had cancer.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And yeah, but I would easily squashed if I see Vicky.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Maybe the three of us can be the new trace
a Megos. We can take our show on the road.
I might know you would be squashing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Any beef with Shannon, then things would be a real call.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
She you know, she holds a grudge, that's her problem.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Then Andy's of Bravo asked, what is something you're both
passionate about that we don't know about.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh, for me, it's home design. I love. I can
just sit in a house and stare at it, and
stare at the walls and be like, knock that wall down.
This wall needs wallpaper, like I love. Since I was
a kid, I've loved decorating.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
For me, I clearly you guys know that I love
riding horses. Yeah, so that's been a big part of
something that I'm missing. Something I've become pretty passionate about
now has been swimming.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like I never like swimming, like I despise it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Swimming has given me, like the days that I'm really struggling,
I go and get in the pool and I swim,
and it's something about just I don't know, being in
the water, feeling like free, weightless and free.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Are you good at swimming? Because I like, I tried
to swim. I had to do the swim test in
Scotland when I did Traders, and they take you to
this Olympic sized pool. I got like halfway through. I'm
like like, I'm huffing and puffin. It's hard work. And
then it's like, well, my weave.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I hate to see that. But I also like games,
Like I if I'm with friends and we can play
renmy cub is right. But I love to play games.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Because you're competitive.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, since you're always adding different housewives to the Tute's umbrella,
who would be your ideal pairing to pick?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I like what we've got going on now where we
can kind of fill in for each other and it
feels pretty natural. But I wish we had like a
Potomac Girl on, like, because they they don't seem afraid
to say what they think.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean they're I mean Robin and yeah, like
their their podcast is so successful and congratulations to them,
But I mean thinking of like a pair that we
can put on our umbrella.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean, we could take them. We want you, we
want you guys.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, I'm yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I mean we have we air almost every single day
at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, but who, that's a good point. We need to
look into that because I feel like I have had
it like, oh, we should get them and I aw,
I can't remember now, I'm drawing a total blank. And
then after we're done, I'll be like, oh, well, we had.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
To get people that actually start, you know, that work
more quiet on the show, but then really have a
lot to say.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah. Yeah, well Cynthia and Crystal are doing pretty well
too with their podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I mean, there's a lot of people doing pods, but
who that.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Doesn't do a podcast at all? That would be pretty outspoken.
I mean I would love Kate Chastain and pair her
with somebody after rewatching her on Traders right now, Holy moly,
Oh she's just so outspoken.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I don't know Kate Chastain very well. We've had some
issues in the past, but I'm over that. Were squashed
that beef a Bravocon at some point. Yeah, it's clearly
it's squashed. Tam Or, why do you say, nobody reached
out to you when clearly dead.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh, so basically what happened was Heather reached out to
me when I was in that night at New Orleans
and when I was on the that like at four
in the morning. I got on the plane and she
had text me at four in the morning, or wasn't
four in the morning, but my plane it was a
long flight, so actually it wasn't long flight. Was there
(24:23):
three hours? We did it. But anyways, so I so
she texted me on my way out, I was talking
about when I actually got home. I I mean, I
didn't get a phone. I would have loved a phone call,
like you know, and and I did end up texting
Heather back. I just needed to take a beat and
I needed to just not be on my phone. Now
look at social media. Just get that had already.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Done enough damage with your ancest story post. I know ta.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So yeah, and you know what, actually, Shannon text me
that night.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Too, that night you wanted once you got home.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I was so out of it then that you know,
even the the flight home was pretty rough for me.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So I was really praying. Oh, fans also wanted to
know this question, did you actually end up having to
get an uber back to the Hotelity Production Production.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No production had a car for me out there with
like they always do. It was just taking a little
bit longer than normal. And they have cars. They have
extra cars out there in case something like this happens
that are rigged with cameras. Yeah, and mine was with cameras.
Was I don't even remember calling Eddie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You don't. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yep, can't stop talking about the Traders. You've come to
the right round.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Table, relived the betrayal all over again with your favorite
faithfuls like me Tama Judge.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
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by Order of the Faithfuls, we will take you inside
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Speaker 2 (26:15):
Teddy, how this is from our y con in three fourteen?
How do you think Taram would do on RHO Beach?
And how would Teddy do on the Housepzed Orange County?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, you've been on a housepase Orange County. I think
you would do great. I think that you. I think
personally that you fit in better in Orange County than
Beverly Hills. I feel like you're just a down to
earth girl. But then I do think like every show
needs different personalities to make it work, so I think
you're good at both of them.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think if Beverly Hills saw you walking in to film,
they would shit their pants, Like shit would just start
leaking out.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I think you can great on any show that you're on,
but I can't. I personally can't even picture it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I think I would be intimidated a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You may be intimidated, but then you know what, You
just have a glass of champagne and ax annex and
then you just show them where to go.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I would like to be a housewife floater like Cynthia.
Cynthia was, but now she's I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Know that we have the personality type.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh, I think we could do it. I think it
should be a pair. I think the two of us
should just go like, spend you know, two weeks in
Salt Lake City and then we'll go to Miami.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And what is that? What are their jobs.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Shitsters, professional shitsters.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sat shitsters. Here we go this next one, Tamra, how
is Alexis's bridal shower?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
It was really nice. It was like it was at
a jewelry store down in Balboa Island and it was
just a couple hours of We played a game, we
had some food, a little drinks, and it was it
was nice to John's family and some of her friends.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Teddy, do you have any tea on upcoming VH season?
Oh yeah, I'm just gonna share all the tea and
get my ass handed to me and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Hold on, do you remember that time where we we
we were in here in your house and we showed
the picture from the Orange County reunion? Yeah, water marked it.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, I have nothing to share. I think it's gonna
be a good season. Oh my gosh. From what I've heard,
it's pretty juicy. So yeah, we'll see Tamor, when was
the last time you actually spoke with me?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I text with her, Uh, I don't know, maybe a
month ago and something was said. She said something. Oh
I know what it was. I did a post and
like a story like ask me anything, and I said
something nice about her or having her come back and
then return. You know this is typical Vicky. Oh, I
(29:03):
love Tamoron, love her so much. We have so much
in common. We've known each other forever, and so it
kind of went to that. And then I heard about that.
Then I text her a video of us, like a
montage of all the funny moments that some somebody put together.
And then she wrote me back the next day and
she's like, oh, I love this, so we and then
(29:25):
it hasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Been easy to get mad, but easy to forget.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But the thing is is like, I don't think there
was any reason for her to be mad about towards
me or at me. It was more she was, you know,
because I called Shannon out last year, so she was like.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I think Shannon out yes year last year. And I
don't think she liked our friendship now.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, So I think it's fine. I don't have any
hard feelings.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But those are the questions, guys. We gave you as
juicy as we possibly could. I'm excited for Salt Lake
City to start airing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Oh, if there's any other show that you can go
to sides Beverly Hills, what would.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It be Me Too or Miami, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But Salt Lake City, those girls know how to do it.
They argue, they fight, it's conflict, it's resolution. It's not
like nobody's holding a grudge. I'm not hearing about what
happened two years ago. I'm not hearing what happened seventeen
years ago. Like they just move on. They keep it
like they make.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
They make good TV, and I hope it posts the same.
Do you think we're gonna see Monica this year?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I doubt it. I don't know. Didn't she I mean,
she was just had a baby and all that during
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I love and all that, you know what, but it's hard.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, you know, it is like having a baby
and like it's the last thing on your mind is
filming a reality show. I heard just saw on Instagram.
I don't know if it's true, but it's like three
hundred and something days till Jinshaw is released, So you
know what, I count down has started.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, thanks for tuning in to another episode of to
Cheese and Pod. Keep listening and we appreciate the support
Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Cheese and
Pod with myself and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This is a very special episode.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're in person finally and look we're in bedazzled to
teas and a pod shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I know, okay, So Mel the clothing. Mel underscore the clothing.
If you guys noticed, when I went to Boston at
Finway Park, I had this bedazzled shirt on and she
made it for me. So Jen Guyser from Bravo hooked
us up. She made me that, and she surprised me
with these two teas.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's so funs If you need some bedazzled shirts, I'll
post it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So this is a fun episode because it's a fan
Q and A. We put up something on Instagram. We
had them ask us questions and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I haven't looked them over.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Me neither, Oh god, me neither.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So very Veronica Hollenstein asks what do you admire most
about each other?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
My gosh, I think for you, and this goes from
current to from the time I met you, is just
your strength and your ability to just be so strong
like if I ever have a business question, you know this,
I will call you and say what do you think?
And you can think. You know, you're You're very smart,
(01:33):
very sharp and just very like. I don't most people
I don't know if they know this about you, but
business savvy like you. You just and just a strong,
strong person, strong like and you'll and you'll tell me too,
like if I call and complain about somebody, well, okay,
well let me the whole story. Okay, Tamra, maybe you
didn't do this right or you know you give it
(01:54):
to me story.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I want to get it. I want to be pragmatic.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
What I admire about you the most is, honestly, especially
with everything going on, you are a really good friend.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Thank you really are a good friend.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I think that it's been skewed throughout years of television,
but like, there isn't a day that I wake up
that I don't hear from camera and checking in and
even when I'm at my worst, you're there, so I
think you know. Of course, I admire that you're a
great mother. You're you're a great mother too, But also
(02:28):
when we're together, we have so much fun. Together. We
do and it's like not eve.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We have one mind between the two of us. We
can finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But it's I think.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That that's hard to find, especially later in.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Life, Like how I'm sorry I put you into menopause.
You know I always said to you before, like we're
so alike. If I get my period back, I'm not
gonna be friends with you anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Mine's gone now, mine is gone gone.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But you really have been there, like cameras the I
have a friend that I'm like, I think I'm gonna
do a birthday dinner tomorrow at seven.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You don't feel pressure. I'll be there and she's there,
and it's like it's just so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I think I get a bat. You said bad
rap because what you guys see me as friends is
on a TV show where it's very hard to have friends.
Everybody has gone after everybody. My friends that I've had,
I've had for twenty something years. Yeah, that refuse to
come on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Abby prem asked if you could both give your thirty
year old selves advice, what would it be.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think mine would just be just trust the process,
don't stress too much. I think at thirty you know
thirty is a good age. I think thirty is when
you start figuring things out and you becoming a you're
a big girl now, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Me.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Just I think it's hard because I'm trying to think
back I was I had so many kids. No, I
only actually had two at that time. But I don't know.
Just work hard, save money, invest your money. I wish
I would have invested money earlier. Yeah, that's one thing
I wish. It doesn't take much to put X amount
away every single paycheck, and I wish I would have
(04:11):
done that. But I don't know. I think, just don't
worry so much. I was always so stressed of trying
to be something I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, well that's exactly what I was going to say
that end part that you just said. I think, if
you know, if I go back to my early thirties,
I was so worried what people were going to think. Yeah,
that I then wasn't myself. I was more quiet, I
was more reserved. I didn't feel comfortable in my own
skin to say how I actually feel, which is really free.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But then the same advice I would give myself now,
which is try to take it day by day which
is really hard for me.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, been to present.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You are doing that, now try and try it. You're yeah,
but I think you're doing a good job than you're
doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Joey Elsberger asks if we could pick each other's ultimate
girls trip, can.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We just pick a trip that we can all that
we can be on. Let's do it together together. We'll
do that. We're doing this trip together.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So it's us. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Uh huh do you want to do? Like from each cast?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Okay, so let's go down Salt Lake City. Who would
you pick?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, we can't pick everybody we like, because then it
wouldn't be a very I think Bronwyn.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, Bronwin from Salt Lake City, Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm gonna do for sure, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm gonna do Porsia, Potomac. Karen, Karen, Karen who gets
out of jail. I'm about to be getting out of
jail on birthday. She's probably readily available.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, she's ready for it. Beverly Hills, Beverly Hills. I
mean I would want Kyle Kyle. I want Kyle, but
you know we would just be like the trace a Megas,
just hanging out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah. So if we couldn't have Kyle, then I would want.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Those set everybody straight.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't know her very well, and I feel like
in that chaotic and apartment it might be a little
different because that's different than filming Housewife. Yeah in Miami, Miami,
I know you want Stephanie, don't even want I want Stephanie.
I know you're Stephanie. I mean I think Stephanie and
I would probably come to blows so, which would be great,
Which would be great TV yep.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And then she'd take you on her private jet.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well you know what, No, she probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She'd put me in the back and I'd have to
be locked up in the bedroom by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But she asked Alexia to go on her private jetting
an assignment.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And then are we missing any other franchises?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh, Orange County, Well that's me, that's yeah, New York.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't even know New York or New Jersey is back, but.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I would I would.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I would want Dolores or Melissa.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I wouldn't Melissa. But I say, throw Teresa in there,
get it all going, let's get this ship started.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I did notice that we will be seeing Teresa soon.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We are on a panel together. I know at Bravo Khan.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Do you think she's still mad at us?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
She I think she's somebody that holds grudges, So I'm
gonna say yes, But I don't know, there's nothing really
to be mad about. We were just recapping the show.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah. Uh, Max Hadid underscore og asked, what's a subtle
red flag you've learned to spot early in a friendship?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Is this in our friendship or in general?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And I'd say a general friendship a red flag. I
think for me it's bragging.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But you love Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
As a housewise, I didn't say I want to be
friends with her.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
For me, it's more.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Of like a feeling I have within the second.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, it's good, Like I'm good like that with people
like I can be like there's something quite not right.
But when somebody's trying to sell themselves and talk about
themselves and how great they are and how kind.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They are, amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Their marriages and all that stuff, I'm like, no, sorry, no,
I want the real shit. I want you know what.
My husband drove me crazy last night to make kids,
you know what, the little burgers. I want to kick
him out of the house, you know what I mean,
Like they're so hard. I went down to earth. Yeah,
that's what I.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Like, down to earth. I also want somebody who can
tell me it like it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Is, yeah, and not sugarcoat things.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Not sugarcoat things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And some of them makes freaking laugh, Like if you're
not gonna make me laugh, well, and if stories don't add.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Us, stories are stuffy, really stuffy. That's hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Sabrina Sunny Mills nicks ass, you're.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Doing good at the Ace, Sabrina shorten that name. You
become famous one day. Nobody's gonna be able to find you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Who was the biggest flirt at Bravo Con.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I don't think anybody flirts with me.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I mean I think it's an equal thing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And he's not flirting, it's just who he is.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, he's just.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Very handsy and lovey and huggy and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And he also, you know, he's Southern. So those Liken
guys are very like how's it going, and complimentary and nice.
But I mean, I don't think for one second sheps
interested in me.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Who know, you never know. Maybe for me you and Shep,
I feel like no like brother and sister like.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Brother this year will be me and Shep, But I'm like,
who would be my options for this year?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Did you hear that Jacks was kicked off a Bravo
con What happened? Like, that's serious shit.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well maybe just.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
With everything else getting the boot, it just for his
well being, because that's where people tend to go and have,
you know, some missteps.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, he's been on Bravo for years and there's
people that are not even on Bravo right now that
are getting invited. So I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I have a feeling it might be why when I
watched back on some of these episodes there was a
bunch of substance abuse like warnings and things like that.
So I have a feeling that that kind of stuff
gets involved. Maybe it's a liability.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Maybe maybe, but I don't really know because I was like,
whoa he got kicked off the rasta Ye.
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
Do we find it exhausting to keep up our images collabs?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes, yes, yes I do. I'm afraid. I'm like, you
know what the show is keeping me young? You know
what I mean? Like I will always work out because
that's just my thing. I've been doing it since eighteen
years old in sports when I was younger. But you know,
it's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I would say, it's the moments of like pure exhaustion
where you're just like, I can't do it anymore. And
there are moments where like today when you walked in,
I was already so tired and I was like, oh
I'm writing this, But the second I felt your energy,
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Like, Okay, spicy, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I mean it's exhausting, Like I don't I would I
have hair extensions?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Would I be Would you rather be in office from
nine to five?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, I'd want to be retired. I don't want to
work anymore. I want to do the podcast. That's what
I want to do, and you know, collect my Vina
checks that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
When filming a reality show, do you catch yourself confusing
who you are deep down with who you are on camera.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
When that goes up when filming or watching when filming
a reality show, do you catch yourself confusing who you
are deep down?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
M Holly Luriy's asked this.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Holly Laurie asked this. You know I heard on an
interview recently. I don't know it was Emily or I
think it might have been Emily where she says, you know,
the thing with camera is like off camera, she's so quiet,
she doesn't really go out much. You know, she's so reserved,
But on camera, I'm a different person. I think that's true.
(13:13):
But I think there's an alcohol component when I film
that gets me heightened and gets me to the level
that I'm at and gives me the courage to call
people out. Were in my normal everyday life, I would
never do that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We're in my normal everyday life, I would.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You would, Oh, you call people out that don't even
need to be called out. I'm like, Teddy, let's really down. Now,
it's really down, I would.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Say for me on camera, I think it's I was
always about getting in my head too much.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You were calmer on I.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Was calmra on camera and I also, I didn't really
know people very well at the beginning, so I think
that And is.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
That your first reality show you've ever done? Yes, And
so that's a big deal to just jump right into it.
And plus you were going through some crap to you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Going through personal shit. I also.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Was the youngest on the cast by the lot, had
the least amount of money, like, and all of a sudden,
I'm you know, showing up on my platform shoes and
my your waving shorts.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I'm like, oh, and had a man Ben.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm like, oh, I don't go here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's like Denise coming into the show. True Religion's on.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Gosh, Chrissy Kat eighty three asked, my best friend forever
has staged four metastatic mel noma. How do I support her?
And the best possible? Oh my gosh, you know sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's first of all, so so sorry about that. And
you know, we can speak about that on both sides,
because you know, there is another side to cancer, and
that's the people that are surrounded by you and the
people that love you that feel helpless and are scared
and are you know, going down the deep rabbit hole
of Google of what's what to expect, which is never
(14:58):
a good thing. And you know, for me personally, you
see on the show like I was devastated, devastating, not eating,
not sleeping, stressed out, concerned, wanted to be with you,
didn't want to be doing this. You were at that
point not even there.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, I was like non response, non responsive, and.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think they know nothing. It's just it's just being there.
And I think another thing for me is like I
don't want to always ask you how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, but I think what's good and what you've learned,
which I think back in the New Orleans days, you
hadn't like if I didn't write you back, you would worry.
I'd worry, and now you know, it's just she's probably
not feeling very good to struggling. Yeah, just know that
it's not about necessarily how I'm feeling that day, or
(15:47):
that I don't want to talk to somebody. It's just
that like sometimes I can't be there the way I
would want to be there, So I'm just not there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And it was hard for me as well in the
sense that we were we talked every day, we were
on the podcas cast, every day, we were traveling, we
were in New Orleans three weeks prior to all this,
and then it went from that to the only time,
and it's still there's still a big distance still because
you're not you're not good with your phone, or you're tired,
or you're at a doctor's appointment. So it's a totally
(16:17):
different and you mourn that friendship as well.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I wanted to and I have that with all of
my friends that but I'm super close with.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
But it'll come back.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It'll come back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And also just know, just say, just as simple, I
love you thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's enough.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Does it bug you when people are like, how are you?
What are you like?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Too many questions, too many questions, too many questions.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well that's just in general.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean that's pretty much me in life. Okay, this
is Raider.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Jojo asked if you could have the other squash the
beef with someone at Bravo Khan this year.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who would I have you squashed the beef with? I
would want you to squash the beef with Cratching.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I've tried to watch the Beef with Gretchen all season long,
and you will see as we go on, it's really
hard to squash the beef with somebody that's repeatedly, you know,
fed fake lies about me. Oh no, but I have
tried Granton.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Do I think that she's lying? One million percent.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I think she's lying. And to me, the issue is
more about Gretchen than it is about Katie at this point.
I think Katie just doesn't know how to be like
a good housewife and just be like what you said
it and you know what, Yeah, then I gossiped about Well.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I think Katie was also scared because Gretchen and Slade
got to her and said, if you repeat this, you
could get fired. And she's new, she doesn't know like this.
This could be like, you can go to court over
this because it is it's illegal, and what they're accusing
me of doing is absolutely one hundred percent illegal. And
I could go after them and I could start deposing
(17:53):
them and getting them, all three of them. And what
about how.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
She's changed her story three times?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, what you don't know is and I don't this
will be a flashback, but when we were at the park, me,
Shannon and Gretchen, when I first questioned her about this,
she did this whole performative.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
This.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
This is why I didn't want to come back. This
is why they had to ask me three times. I'm like, no,
that's called negotiating. And then I go, did you tell
her you went to the hospital, and she said, yes,
I did.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, And then they showed it in the flashback.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But no, they didn't show their original one. And then
I said to her, why did you tell her that?
And and she said because I didn't feel well? And
then and the I don't. I didn't remember in the car,
so then she said it in the car again and
now she's saying, oh, I misspoke, Tamra misspoke, Tamra miss spoke.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like that's how.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
She She's just she's a tough one for me because
she doesn't own anything. She's been coming after me for
a year, but then she plays victim, so it's really
hard for me, you know, and like just makes up
shit like she was on a podcast, Heather mc donald's podcast,
and and I hear that she says something about, well,
the reason my Terramor got baptized. I'm like, do you
(19:03):
know why I got baptized?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And why are we bringing back It's like long ago,
a recap episode.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Obsession of details. It's just too much for me. I
don't even say, Vicky.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, because I mean I feel like at any point
in time that beef could be squashed. I bet if
they brought we've had a few. Yeah, see, I don't.
I don't even bother because I feel like that one
is easy. I feel like if she came back full time,
you guys would be fair.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
We would move forward, especially since she sent you a present.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Without our pictures in it. Oh yeah, who would.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Who would I want you to squash the beef with.
I mean, I don't think you have too many beefs,
do you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean I think my biggest beef was Denise and
squashed it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I would say, probably, Vicky. I think that you like
officially squashed shit. You tried Bravokan last time and that
didn't go over.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I wouldn't say I tried. I was an asshole.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, okay, well, but I would.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Say that when I filmed on OC, Vicky and me
and Shannon were sitting down at a table and like
Vicky and I had a moment where she finally like
understood yeah me. I mean granted, she then came out
and talked about me after, but that touch just fair.
But then I got cancer, So then she started being
really nice.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, Vicky's dealt with people close to her that had cancer.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And yeah, but I would easily squashed if I see Vicky.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Maybe the three of us can be the new trace
a Megos. We can take our show on the road.
I might know you would be squashing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Any beef with Shannon, then things would be a real call.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
She you know, she holds a grudge, that's her problem.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Then Andy's of Bravo asked, what is something you're both
passionate about that we don't know about.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh, for me, it's home design. I love. I can
just sit in a house and stare at it, and
stare at the walls and be like, knock that wall down.
This wall needs wallpaper, like I love. Since I was
a kid, I've loved decorating.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
For me, I clearly you guys know that I love
riding horses. Yeah, so that's been a big part of
something that I'm missing. Something I've become pretty passionate about
now has been swimming.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like I never like swimming, like I despise it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Swimming has given me, like the days that I'm really struggling,
I go and get in the pool and I swim,
and it's something about just I don't know, being in
the water, feeling like free, weightless and free.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Are you good at swimming? Because I like, I tried
to swim. I had to do the swim test in
Scotland when I did Traders, and they take you to
this Olympic sized pool. I got like halfway through. I'm
like like, I'm huffing and puffin. It's hard work. And
then it's like, well, my weave.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I hate to see that. But I also like games,
Like I if I'm with friends and we can play
renmy cub is right. But I love to play games.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Because you're competitive.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, since you're always adding different housewives to the Tute's umbrella,
who would be your ideal pairing to pick?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I like what we've got going on now where we
can kind of fill in for each other and it
feels pretty natural. But I wish we had like a
Potomac Girl on, like, because they they don't seem afraid
to say what they think.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean they're I mean Robin and yeah, like
their their podcast is so successful and congratulations to them,
But I mean thinking of like a pair that we
can put on our umbrella.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean, we could take them. We want you, we
want you guys.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, I'm yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I mean we have we air almost every single day
at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, but who, that's a good point. We need to
look into that because I feel like I have had
it like, oh, we should get them and I aw,
I can't remember now, I'm drawing a total blank. And
then after we're done, I'll be like, oh, well, we had.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
To get people that actually start, you know, that work
more quiet on the show, but then really have a
lot to say.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah. Yeah, well Cynthia and Crystal are doing pretty well
too with their podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I mean, there's a lot of people doing pods, but
who that.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Doesn't do a podcast at all? That would be pretty outspoken.
I mean I would love Kate Chastain and pair her
with somebody after rewatching her on Traders right now, Holy moly,
Oh she's just so outspoken.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I don't know Kate Chastain very well. We've had some
issues in the past, but I'm over that. Were squashed
that beef a Bravocon at some point. Yeah, it's clearly
it's squashed. Tam Or, why do you say, nobody reached
out to you when clearly dead.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh, so basically what happened was Heather reached out to
me when I was in that night at New Orleans
and when I was on the that like at four
in the morning. I got on the plane and she
had text me at four in the morning, or wasn't
four in the morning, but my plane it was a
long flight, so actually it wasn't long flight. Was there
(24:23):
three hours? We did it. But anyways, so I so
she texted me on my way out, I was talking
about when I actually got home. I I mean, I
didn't get a phone. I would have loved a phone call,
like you know, and and I did end up texting
Heather back. I just needed to take a beat and
I needed to just not be on my phone. Now
look at social media. Just get that had already.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Done enough damage with your ancest story post. I know ta.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So yeah, and you know what, actually, Shannon text me
that night.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Too, that night you wanted once you got home.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I was so out of it then that you know,
even the the flight home was pretty rough for me.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So I was really praying. Oh, fans also wanted to
know this question, did you actually end up having to
get an uber back to the Hotelity Production Production.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No production had a car for me out there with
like they always do. It was just taking a little
bit longer than normal. And they have cars. They have
extra cars out there in case something like this happens
that are rigged with cameras. Yeah, and mine was with cameras.
Was I don't even remember calling Eddie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You don't. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yep, can't stop talking about the Traders. You've come to
the right round.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Table, relived the betrayal all over again with your favorite
faithfuls like me Tama Judge.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
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by Order of the Faithfuls, we will take you inside
the castle starting from season one for Rewatch That's to
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Speaker 2 (26:15):
Teddy, how this is from our y con in three fourteen?
How do you think Taram would do on RHO Beach?
And how would Teddy do on the Housepzed Orange County?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, you've been on a housepase Orange County. I think
you would do great. I think that you. I think
personally that you fit in better in Orange County than
Beverly Hills. I feel like you're just a down to
earth girl. But then I do think like every show
needs different personalities to make it work, so I think
you're good at both of them.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think if Beverly Hills saw you walking in to film,
they would shit their pants, Like shit would just start
leaking out.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I think you can great on any show that you're on,
but I can't. I personally can't even picture it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I think I would be intimidated a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You may be intimidated, but then you know what, You
just have a glass of champagne and ax annex and
then you just show them where to go.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I would like to be a housewife floater like Cynthia.
Cynthia was, but now she's I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Know that we have the personality type.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh, I think we could do it. I think it
should be a pair. I think the two of us
should just go like, spend you know, two weeks in
Salt Lake City and then we'll go to Miami.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And what is that? What are their jobs.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Shitsters, professional shitsters.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sat shitsters. Here we go this next one, Tamra, how
is Alexis's bridal shower?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
It was really nice. It was like it was at
a jewelry store down in Balboa Island and it was
just a couple hours of We played a game, we
had some food, a little drinks, and it was it
was nice to John's family and some of her friends.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Teddy, do you have any tea on upcoming VH season?
Oh yeah, I'm just gonna share all the tea and
get my ass handed to me and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Hold on, do you remember that time where we we
we were in here in your house and we showed
the picture from the Orange County reunion? Yeah, water marked it.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, I have nothing to share. I think it's gonna
be a good season. Oh my gosh. From what I've heard,
it's pretty juicy. So yeah, we'll see Tamor, when was
the last time you actually spoke with me?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I text with her, Uh, I don't know, maybe a
month ago and something was said. She said something. Oh
I know what it was. I did a post and
like a story like ask me anything, and I said
something nice about her or having her come back and
then return. You know this is typical Vicky. Oh, I
(29:03):
love Tamoron, love her so much. We have so much
in common. We've known each other forever, and so it
kind of went to that. And then I heard about that.
Then I text her a video of us, like a
montage of all the funny moments that some somebody put together.
And then she wrote me back the next day and
she's like, oh, I love this, so we and then
(29:25):
it hasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Been easy to get mad, but easy to forget.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But the thing is is like, I don't think there
was any reason for her to be mad about towards
me or at me. It was more she was, you know,
because I called Shannon out last year, so she was like.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I think Shannon out yes year last year. And I
don't think she liked our friendship now.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, So I think it's fine. I don't have any
hard feelings.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But those are the questions, guys. We gave you as
juicy as we possibly could. I'm excited for Salt Lake
City to start airing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Oh, if there's any other show that you can go
to sides Beverly Hills, what would.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It be Me Too or Miami, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But Salt Lake City, those girls know how to do it.
They argue, they fight, it's conflict, it's resolution. It's not
like nobody's holding a grudge. I'm not hearing about what
happened two years ago. I'm not hearing what happened seventeen
years ago. Like they just move on. They keep it
like they make.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
They make good TV, and I hope it posts the same.
Do you think we're gonna see Monica this year?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I doubt it. I don't know. Didn't she I mean,
she was just had a baby and all that during
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I love and all that, you know what, but it's hard.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, you know, it is like having a baby
and like it's the last thing on your mind is
filming a reality show. I heard just saw on Instagram.
I don't know if it's true, but it's like three
hundred and something days till Jinshaw is released, So you
know what, I count down has started.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, thanks for tuning in to another episode of to
Cheese and Pod. Keep listening and we appreciate the support
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