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December 7, 2021 51 mins

Teddi and Tamra are not holding back as they discuss Salt Lake City! Why is Mary so Scary??? Are you Team Mary or Team Whitney? 


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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Meloncamps and Tambra Judge. Hi, guys,
welcome back to Two Teas in a Pod. It's me
Teddy Meloncamp with Tambra Judge. Always high. It was so
good to see you in the flesh. No, you look beautiful,

(00:24):
so did you. I mean, we had so much fun.
We got everybody all riled up on the press line.
What are you even called the red carpet? It was
actually at this one, it was lots of stories are
being written. Lots of stories are being written, which is
pretty hilarious. Every time that somebody does a story, whether
it's good or bad, Tamer and I send it back

(00:45):
and forth, and we're like making friends everywhere we go,
making friends. I mean, even Andy talked about us today
on his radio show, which was nice. Gave us a
little plug, gave us a little plug. I mean, it's crazy,
little plug, a little shade, a little plug. But I
liked the fact that he read the numbers and the
fact that how high we are, which you said, you know,

(01:06):
we're nine, which is above any of the other current
housewives along with other past and you know, he was like,
you know, f the haters at the end, which I
thought was pretty great. I didn't hear too many haters,
but I don't know if that's from like the Twitter world.
I don't really do Twitter too often, so I think
they're a little bit more brutal over there. Well, I've

(01:29):
noticed that the haters tend to be louder than the
people who love you, you know what I mean. Always,
So you're on Twitter, you're gonna see the haters. Like.
But of course we're seeing a lot of the positive
because we're getting the d m s, we're getting the messages,
and for those of you guys listening, we appreciate that.
And the small bit of haters that we had that
I did see was mainly why are these two ex

(01:51):
housewives talking about housewives? And wouldn't they one? Why wouldn't they?
But do you ever say that about retired sports like
sports players, like right, Michael Strahand Like, why would he
be talking about sports? Is a very good point, very
good So, I mean, obviously this is we love doing it,
which is why this week we're going to be digging

(02:13):
into Salt Lake City, um, Porsche's family matters and you know,
just other pressy housewife stuff. Okay, so are you. Are
you fully up to date now, Tamera on Salt Lake?
I am, I'm not up to date on Porsche though, Okay,
I am, I can, I can, I can help with that. Okay,

(02:34):
So this episode starts off. You know, last week was
super dramatic with gin Shaw and you know, potentially almost
getting arrested on those vans, and that was like mind boggling.
I I watched the last three of Bench, the last
three episodes last night, and taking it back to when

(02:57):
they're in that bus, I mean, how did they know,
Like with somebody, I know, there was a lot of
talk like were they tipped off? Were they tracking her phone?
Did they know exactly where she was? And what are
the odds? I know, well I was thinking last week
when they said that it made sense. But then this
week now after watching this episode, are they implying that

(03:18):
Mary may have tipped them off? I guess. But you know,
in Housewives style, you always wanna blame somebody, You always
want to blame somebody. But I think it's bigger than that.
I think when you're being tracked by the FBI, they
know where you're as homeland security and the part that
I found, I mean there was a lot of people.

(03:39):
But also in all of your years of doing Housewives,
did you ever say to another Housewives, we turn off
my mic. No, I didn't even know that was a thing.
I don't even know how to turn it off. The
one time I took I took mine off was because
I started crying and I didn't want them to be
a part of it, Like, so I took it off
and like kind of threw it and they chased me

(04:01):
down with the boom like there was no Yeah, I
did that obviously, and Molly, I tried to take my
mic off, and I was when you get mad, you
do that like I've dropped him in the toilet on accident,
like if I get your hats. Yeah, I would turn
it off when I was peen or going to the
bathroom because it's like you forget you have the mic on, Well,
you can unplug it, but I didn't even know. I
never learned how to properly like turn it off. So

(04:22):
when she asked Whitney, I was like, huh. She was
so calm and cool, collective, like can you take my
mic off? And then she comes up with this lie
that her husband is in the hospital with internal bleeding,
I mean, of all the lies, i'd be worried that that.
Then what happened like karma? Right, sorry, my husband just
had a heart attack? Can you please me? So weird? Well,

(04:45):
I think also the part that's so bananas to me
is Whitney, all of a sudden, who is making sense
like no other, Like everything that she I'm like, dude,
do research on this or something. All of a sudden,
she's like so well spoken, knows every little deed to
al I was like jotting down notes and like, Whitney's
really made some good points. Well, I think, you know,

(05:05):
because she has such a baby young voice, I think
people underestimate her and what the little girl, little girl voice,
but it was the Mary kept saying, I'm not like you,
little girl. And I know we're skipping around, but just
getting right into you know. They go away to this trip,
which I find it hilarious that Meredith's in the bathtub.

(05:29):
I was thinking of you, Tamra, but like so calm
as a cucumber. They go on the trip, they all
start immediately talking. It shifts away from Gin and they
all start immediately talking about Mary. Mary and she's going
to be the next well that's what I'm wondering. I mean,

(05:50):
I I don't know, but like I've never known U,
a pastor or whomever to have that much money. And
something she kept saying at the end, Well they do
those ones usually go to jail because like the ones
we see on TV, what was it Tammy thing over

(06:12):
these televangelists that would go and steal money. I don't
know if that's what her cast members are thinking. She's
doing some she's doing something a little shady, but I think,
you know what, we just got to break it down
by pieces. First off, Meredith saying that she hired a
private investigator. Did you ever do that to anybody? Okay? Me?

(06:38):
Neither um. And then she sat at the dinner table
and says, if you want to invite Gin, do not
invite me. So in the world of housewives, you can't
really do that. You can't do that. I mean, I
would think it, but you can't do that. You can't
do that because what are the And also we see
like in the scenes from the next that obviously Jen

(07:01):
and Meredith are both there, so obviously you can't stand
by those statements. I'm gonna put my glasses on because
I did write some notes about because I remember thinking, like,
all right, okay, I loved when Heather said, I learned
from Ozark that you can under money in strip clubs,
construction companies, and now salons. I learned that from Ozark

(07:23):
to most Yes, that was awesome. Yeah, when Meredith like,
keep her away from me, I don't want to get
involved with that. Well, you're on a TV show. You're
getting involved. You're getting involved with that. But this is
another thing that I want to ask you about. Do
you believe that guilty by association by being on a
television show with somebody that then you could be linked

(07:43):
into it? Because all of a sudden, these were I
think we I think what she's trying to say is like,
if you're on a TV show and you are engaging
in this conversation, you will be deposed. You will have
to you know, there's a lot of things that go
into it, and it's time consuming and it is expensive.
Is so true. But I mean, and I see from

(08:04):
Heather's point how she wouldn't want everybody outside of her,
you know, place of business. Yeah, not not the best
look to see, like a squat a swat team, you know,
running up but not some crazy ship. What they have
going on in that show, like it's always something. My
head was spinning just watching the episode. It's like there's
no shortage of drama on Salt Lake City and all

(08:28):
of them it's completely different types of drama. Like, okay,
we also before we continue on with the episode, who
is like your favorites now that we've because last last
episode we hadn't seen all of them, but now we have,
So who are your favorites? I like Lisa Well, she
is so messy, she is unbelievably messy. And then Meredith,

(08:49):
how she is that Meredith It talks out of the
side of her mouth. Yeah, but I don't think suld
have talked the first season. It's confused maybe something about
if I'm not sure. Um, I don't know. I kind
of like them all. The Merry Girl kind of freaks
me out a little bit. She freaks me out. I
love Heather. I think Heather's great. Um, and I'm you know,

(09:14):
I I like Whitney. I wish you know, of course,
I wish the voice was a little different, but you know,
you canable but adorable and she's so honest, like she
just says whatever and she shows her emotions and she's
I thought this episode Mary was like very rude to her,
like so beyond well, who cares? Also who gives presents

(09:38):
like that, I'm not my friends, not my friends? And
also who gives presents like that when it's already coming up,
like the editing, it's not even editing because it happened,
but like they're talking about you potentially stealing money, and
here's Louis Baton, here's my hand me down, Christian lu
Baton's that I never wore that I just grabbed on

(09:59):
my way out out. But all of these things. So
what Lisa ends up saying after they've repeated like she's
what Lisa does, which is why you love her. She
drops little bombs but doesn't give us the full story.
So it really like brings us in, like I'm like,
give me all the little details. So she finally ends
up saying that at Mary's church, her friend Cameron said

(10:23):
it was a religious trauma and he mortgaged his house
and ended up paying her three hundred thousand dollars. I
didn't get that, yes, So that's how much he tithed
to the church and to pay for her her surgeries
and one of the surgeries being I believe the phrasing

(10:45):
was her owder gland, which which I don't know what
I hate to laugh, but like what your owder clans?
And why haven't I heard of that surgery? And do
I need it? That's crazy. In her closet, like she
turned a whole room into her cloth, I'm like, what
the hell? Who has that many pairs of boots? But

(11:06):
then when she was crying and getting upset and all
of these different things, she kept saying, I inherited this money.
I thought she inherited the church. She was saying book,
she was like, I inherited this. But then they said
that she's not always at the church. That she comes
in and they create like this godlike persona who she is.

(11:30):
But my question with all of this, and granted this
is a television show, but she doesn't speak like somebody
who is a pastor, like but I was thinking she
is so negative. She is not really kind to any
of them when she only he I mean obviously her
words of affirm I mean, her love language is like

(11:53):
gifts because that is all she can do. And then
other than that, she just pretty much tears them down.
And I mean when she said to Heather something about
her little chubby self. I'm like, oh my gosh, no,
she's unbelievable. She that is so mean to say something
like that. I mean, but I mean she's funny to

(12:15):
watch because like when she puts the eggs in the
microwave and she has to heat it because she's not
sure if Whitney wash her hand, and she has to
get the germs out. I mean, it's well, I I
have to take it back to the chef. Was he
cooking hot dogs? Were those hot dogs? They're eating hot
dogs in the oven. And then when Heather went to lunch,

(12:36):
she's like, I'll have the crepes. Now what type of
chocolate will be on those crepes? And we're over here
in Beverly Hills and Orange County at restaurants going how
many calories around the water. They're eating hot dogs and
the ice is really pushing it over the edge over here?
How many calories is in the air? Like it's like,
are you kidding me? Like they're they're hot dogs and crapes,

(12:59):
hot dogs and crapes. They're not messing around. And you
made a good point on our text message. I want
to see them go somewhere they're not in snow, right,
and it does show in the clips for coming up?
What are the mid what is it called mid season trailer? Yeah,
that's it. You think I know that by now, um
that they're in bathing suits, so they must be went
somewhere or hot. But why would they send some casts

(13:23):
to veil like they're from Salt Lake City. It's snow,
they're snowing all the time. We don't want to see
that my only different environment maybe because of COVID are cheap. Yeah,
well there's other places they could to win. The other

(13:45):
part that's making me a little nutty while watching this
is how many times people get up and leave the conversation.
Like I was always told like housewife etiquette. Granted there
was you know, a handful like I don't know, maybe
too to times where I got up, but like I
was having a mental breakdowns like not just like I'm

(14:07):
over you and I'm over this conversation. Like it's to
continuously leave conversations and before they started, especially when you're
on a trip. Not good. That's a big, big no note,
like and you know, as another like cast member, when
that happens, it just sucks the air out of it
and then all you can do, and then what it

(14:29):
leaves the other girls to do is solely talk about
you behind your back, right, And do you never get
up from a table and you always show up to
every filming because if you don't, they're gonna talk about you.
They're gonna talk about what was your thoughts on how Lisa?
I mean, she really gave it to everybody about her
friend Cameron, about what he said about the church. But

(14:50):
then she went down and was kind of like giggling
and having fun with Mary and she's saying, listen, I
Cameron's my good friend and I trust him, but also, uh,
you know, I have empathy for Mary. Yeah. I didn't
see that part. I didn't see it. I know it's bad.
I was watching it and I was on the treadmill
today watching the episode, so I was kind of coming

(15:13):
in out. Sorry, Oh my gosh, all right, goodbye. I know. Well,
so that that shows like so much like my head
starts spinning just watching it. There's so much drama going
everywhere all the time, and I get to the point
where I'm like, oh my god, what are they talking about? Now?
It's constant, so there's this stet it goes down. I

(15:35):
feel like we're going to find out more information. However,
we're not going to find out more information from Cameron
because he passed away. He did, yes, and I from
what I saw, he had posted the brain tumor, but
it wasn't confirmed. It's still not confirmed how he passed away.
But so after he filled with Lisa, which also when

(15:57):
Lisa said, I didn't set up a camera to have
that camera to have that conversation with um Meredith. That's
another housewife thing. If you want people to have a
conversation on camera, you invite them, right, You invite them.
If you don't invite them, it can't happen. So if
you're trying to protect somebody, you don't invite a person

(16:19):
who's going to out them to the party. I agree.
Let's talk about Heather's sister. No relationship for twenty years,
but yet she films on a reality show like really,
like you guys talk a few times in twenty years
and it's like, Hey, I'm filing this crazy reality show.
Would you like to come film and let's hash it

(16:41):
out on TV? Well, I'm gonna this is gonna I'm
probably gonna regret saying this. But um, when I was younger,
when I was a teenager, I got to argue with
my dad and I didn't talk to him for two years.
Like it was bad. It was like a really bad argument.
And the way we started talking again is because VH

(17:02):
one called me, Oh, said you do behind the music?
I'm your dad, And I was like, uh, And I
didn't know what to do. So I texted his wife
at the time and said, Hey, I don't know what
to do. You know, they want me to do this
behind the music. I haven't even talked to dad in

(17:23):
two years, like what you know? And then we That's
kind of what spurred our conversation. It wasn't necessarily that
I wanted to do behind the music. I mean, I
wasn't looking my best, it wasn't strong, But it was
an opening to have that conversation that I wasn't comfortable
having for so long, and it which is hard to do,

(17:46):
and then when you're in front of a camera, you're
kind of forced to do it. Yeah, And and I
think you could tell that her sister really loves her
and like admires her and like wants to talk to
her and didn't pull away from her because as you know,
she didn't pull away from her Heather did. Heather's tough.
Heather's tough, and her questions and comments are pretty tough like.

(18:08):
And she was pretty tough on her sister as well
as I thought, Well, I think she was very I
mean I think it was very It made sense. I mean,
she was die hard LDS Mormon than you know, her
dad wanted her to do certain things, and she went
and above and beyond to please him. And then after
all this time passed, she you know, just couldn't do
it anymore. So how long has she been out of

(18:28):
the religion do you know? Since she's been divorced? Okay, so,
and then what I went straight to the vodka, Yes,
straight straight to the vodka. Dright to the nine. Am
Mimosa's right. Um, But what I'm gathering is that the
husband is there for the ex husband is still there financially,

(18:50):
but not necessarily like a part of their lives because
of I was shocked that he filmed too. I know
I was shocked, But I you know, I think, no
matter what what your religion, people jump at the opportunity
being on TV. And you know, we I don't know

(19:12):
that we can judge on that, Tam, we can't. We
can't know that I think of it. I didn't talk
to my dad for many years, and I filmed with him.
I am. I mean, it wasn't twenty years, but it was,
you know, often not we were talking that we had
a strange relationship after my parents got divorced for like
ten years. But we still spoke. But it wasn't very often.

(19:34):
But I had to sit down with him too in
Iowa and how is that? Um? It was good, but
it was weird. I remember texting him on the way.
I'm like, Dad, you should take those errings out of
your ears because people are going to make fun of
you when you're on TV. Yeah, like I don't know,
maybe one or two errings I don't know. And he's like, no,

(19:56):
I'm not doing that. I'm like, okay. I was so
worried it about what people are gonna think. Way back
then this was like I don't know, season four or five,
so worried. Now I don't really care. I can't even
believe in my time, I never had even any of
my family on, not even my sister. I was talking
to any about that. Why was your dad not on?
Did he was he like, well, that's when my dad.

(20:18):
I feel like if it were now he would I
could probably convince him, but at that time he was
with Meg Ryan. You know, there was one time I
almost got it done, and it was that we all
the girls and I were going to go to farm Aid,
which is the concert that he does um where it
aids all the farmers and blah blah blah. But then

(20:41):
housewives agreed, everybody agreed, the girls were all ready to come,
and then um farm Aid said no because housewives fans
can be so brutal that they didn't want them coming
for for for them in any way. I get it,
and it's getting more and more like a like less people,

(21:01):
you know when I was on it in two years.
But a lot of places don't want a stiffilm in
the establishment, like it's not good. I remember we talked
a restaurant into filming locally where I live, and the
we were filming and the lights were so hot it's
set off the sprinklers inside this restaurant. And I'm again,

(21:22):
this is exactly why people don't want us to film.
And you know, sprinklers all over the restaurant. It's a
major damage We also have to talk about how awkward
it is when you're eating at a restaurant filming and
all of the other GET patrons are really just staring
at you and taking pictures. Well, either that or they're
like different people from the crew sitting together. Oh yeah,

(21:43):
that too. That used to be a real issue with
me because I think it's because I'm like a d D. Like,
I'm somebody's over there, I'm trying to have a serious conversation.
Somebody's in my eye filming me from another table. It
was hard for me to concentrate. It was like and
then I'd be like, stop, just stop, and I'd tell
the producer, make them stop, and they never do. They

(22:04):
let them do whatever. See I didn't really I never
noticed that part so much, Like I just kind of
could be okay with that. But what I would notice
is all of a sudden, when you get the zoom
in on the camera, you know, when you're like and
they're there, Sally and and the like, and then you
just see them and you're like, oh, that means whatever

(22:24):
I said, it's about to get me in a lot
of trouble. And then you get hot and then you
can feel the camera and yeah, and you're like, yeah,
sorry loser. I was used to that Lazer have my back, right,
Oh I love Lazer. Um, yes, and then like you
were saying like that sometimes the crew. My daughter just
asked me the other day, Um, we're watching Salt Lake

(22:46):
and I said, she goes, are those like real people
at the restaurant? I said, sometimes they are, but they
have to you know, obviously they know what they're in
view of and they might be on the camera. They
have to sign a release. But if they're nobody wants to,
then they'll put like Sally in there. Yeah. Then then yeah,
it's two people that you love, like sitting there for
two day like yes, but um, yeah, it's pretty funny.

(23:11):
We have to also talk about have you would you
ever be mad enough to then sit on a stoop
and make a choice to um, fly Delta home versus
the private jet? Nope, I mean I'd rather be in
the private jet. But if you're not mad at somebody
and you don't even want to see their face, you're
like peace out and it's not that long of a flight. Um.

(23:33):
But I'd have to say, when was it who was
it that said I get Meridith and Lisa confused, and
they're like, um, we're flying on a jet. I was
hoping for a bigger plane. Oh, Meredith said that. I'm like,
are you freaking kidding me right now? Do you know
what a snob you sound like? I think Meredith said
that and that, but Lisa's Lisa's quote kind of made

(23:53):
me laugh. She was like, I mean for me to
have to choose to take my shoes off and security,
I'm like, oh my god, you're asking go fly delta. There,
you go off my private jet if it's not big
enough for you. Yeah. But I mean, all in all,
now that I'm caught up, I am loving it that
I'm I want more gin Shaw. I do think that

(24:18):
we have to wait and see how things clean play out.
But in closing out this section before we take a break,
are you team Mary or Whitney? I'm Whitney. Mary scares me?
Hold on, we need to also talk about that. Why
does everybody say that Mary scares them? Like to me,

(24:40):
Mary makes these like goofy faces, and she's like, and
then just so rude to everybody. It's not necessarily like
a scary thing. Yeah, No, she just kind of turns
me off. Mary does for some reason. I do love
her goofy faces. I do think she's great reality TV
for sure, But there's she somebody that marries their grandfather

(25:02):
just it just ruins it for me. And then Whitney
is just so stinking cute, and she's plays like she's like,
you know, she's like the Jessica Simpson, but she she
gets he's really smart. She's really smart. But like her voice,
it's like the alternate Britney Spears voice. But can we
please talk about her and her stepson's She's like, I
really want them to respect me or something like that,

(25:24):
or look up to me as she's doing shot skis
with them Tom. And then there's the stripper pole in
the living room. I mean, granted, when I met Edwin
he had a pink stripper pool. No he didn't, Yes
he did. It was in like his man cave or whatever.
And I'm like, so he would have girls come over
and do I mean he wasn't. I never saw him

(25:46):
on the stripper pole, but I was like the first
house we lived in together, there was a like I
moved into with him. I was like, listen, I can't
with this needs to freaking go like who's total Win
who knew oh not between that he liked was one
of those that would take me on dates to do karaoke,
and like he'd come down in a different outfit choice,

(26:09):
like leather pants. These vnts like he it was so
reserved and calm and give him like six margarita's and
you all see a different side of Edwin. Eddie's like
that too, super like calm, quiet, but as soon as
he has a few drinks, it's like blind date. Like
he's like off the charts doing stuff, doing the worm

(26:32):
on the ground. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? What?
What about the other night when I handed my purse
and phone to Eddie thinking it was Edwin? Yeah, yeah,
well we can't help it. All right, We're gonna take
a little break and then we'll come back and discuss
some other juice. All right, we're back in breaking news, Tamara.

(27:02):
I just found out we were going to discuss Porsche
of family matters. But she's going to come on the
pod this week. Oh my god, are you kidding me?
The best I went to Mexico City with her and
got to know her. She is the sweetest girl. So
I guess we will wait and we'll discuss that then,
which gives you time to catch up. Tamra, Yeah, I'm
gonna catch up. I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna watch

(27:24):
I need how many opinions I know, I'm gonna get
my opinion, I will get it. How many episodes are
they in? I one? I think just started? Okay, and
then okay, so now we're doing the deep dive of
the week, which apparently thanks you guys, you really liked
my reading voice that I was doing in so I

(27:45):
will read through them and then tam can give us
her opinions. Okay, my opinion is coming. Okay. Deep Dive
of the Week Meg Megan king Owen's Instagram post. We
sent the kids to stay at grandma and Grandpa's. We
got a hotel three miles from our house, and I
slipped into the pajamas I've been waiting to wear for
a special occasion. We feel like we've been married for

(28:06):
a million years thanks to marrying later in life with
a lot of history and well kids. So two month
anniversary staycation was called for tomorrow. Real life commenced us,
but a few hours in a hotel at Meridian s Clayton,
we'll do a marriage good please marriage I mean, I

(28:27):
mean I love Megan and we'll text and chat once
in a while. But um, she's like the same age
as my son, so getting married later in life. I
don't know what she's talking about there. And um, those
were like full blown pajamas right like, but also the
things if you're doing a marriage post, let's let's call
a spade a spade here. Is this a marriage post

(28:49):
or is this an ad for the pajamas? Because did
she hashtag? I was like, either she's getting the hotel
for free or she's getting the jam means for freeing.
I was going to say that both are tag or
they're a friend of hers that she's doing a favor for.
But those are the reasons you're tag. You're either taking
them because it's a creative Yes, you're right, she's sagging

(29:10):
them to promote them. She's either getting very creative with
her sponsored post or she's getting very cringe e with
her new marriage. Either way, but marriage tips, I'm all
for a stay case. Who am I to say? I
just posted it holding vibrators by the way, the picture,
I know, don't worry. I'm on like another group chat
and somebody sent it to me like, hey, your girl

(29:32):
Cham's post vibrators and like she didn't send me one. Rude? Really,
I was like, I might want to try one. She's
got hundreds couldn't get to me the other night. It
was a giveaway. I mean, yes, you can compare a
mask to a vibrator whatever both were to us. I

(29:53):
actually have one right here? Is it one of those?
And or on the outside it's a vibrator finger and
I've got a little tongue. Okay, we'll get We need
to save that for later because we have more things
to get through. And the next one is from Bachelor
to Real Housewives Bachelor in Paradise, Jade Roper says she
auditioned for Real Housewives or Orange County What might have been?

(30:17):
Jade Roper rose to fame after appearing on The Bachelor
and Bachelor in Paradise, but she almost had the chance
to be on another reality show, The Real Housewives of
Orange County. During an Instagram Q and A session on
Thursday December two, a fan asked if the Bachelor Nation
al um would ever agree to appear on the Bravo series,
and she answered she did the first interview. However, she

(30:38):
never made a second interview. Any thoughts on this do
you watch? I don't. I don't know her. Um, I've
never heard about this. This happens all the time. They
interview everybody, and you know this. How did you get casted?
Did you interview? Go through the whole interview? I went
through the whole interview process. I was on another reality
show pilot first that I just signed up for without

(31:00):
an agency or anything. And the pilot was so terribly bad,
Like I was so embarrassed to be a part of it.
I called CIA where I used to work, and said,
help me, please. I think I signed a contract I
can't get myself out of. I can't be on the
television show embarrassed my family, my life. So so you
went on to Orange U better. This is the funny thing.

(31:21):
When I asked Cat my agent, well, she wasn't my
agent at the time, she was my friend. And I
just said, hey, um, can you get me out of this?
She was like yeah, sure, and then she goes, but
I have a question, would you I see now, would
you do a reality show? And I said maybe? And
she said would you do housewives? And I said I
don't know. I've never seen it. And she said, they're
actually casting right now for Orange County and Beverly Hills.

(31:44):
And I said, well, which one should I do if
I had the not that I could get on either,
And she's, if you had the choice, which one would
you have done? Well? I think, I mean, here's the thing.
Beverly Hills is definitely easier in the fact that people
don't come for blood the same way they do in
Orange County. That being said, because of that, you really

(32:07):
feels more calculated because then and it's a smaller knit
community and truthfully, like you know, you're all good friends
and you all care about each other, so you want
to protect each other. But then in Beverly Hills, because
there's so much money involved in as well, you have
to you know, everybody's mindful and everybody also has businesses

(32:27):
and YadA, YadA. Whereas Orange County, like I feel like
there's for blood and definitely Hills like they always they will,
they will picker. They don't attack each other, but they
always come together and they're always friends and they support
each other. Orange County is not like that, right, So
I can see why Orange County is scary going into

(32:50):
it if you have, you know, anything you don't want
coming out. But also easier in the fact that everybody's
just you know, everybody is shipped, stirring. We're in Beverly Hills.
It's kind of one of us, one of us doing
the job. Do you think that's why Brandy didn't last
on Beverly Hills because she was more Orange County. She
was more dropping the bombs, fighting with people, saying things.

(33:11):
You know. I think just towards the end for Brandy,
it was just a situation where if you're not getting
along with anybody from your current cast, they don't have
a choice. So there were so many bombs that it
just had taken over. Yeah, but that that's applauded in
Orange County like that is Yeah, But I don't I

(33:34):
don't know that Orange County was always like that. I
think it got more so like that. Um when Kelly
dog Yeah came in. Oh, she's one of our things.
We're discussing. Hold on, I just talked to her today.
Kelly Dodd responds to Heather do Bro, calling her pathetic.
Kelly Dodd has fired back after former Real House Lives
of Orange County coastar Heather do Bro called her sad

(33:57):
and pathetic. If I'm so irrelevant, why did our lawyer
sent me two season assist letters? Dodd tweeted alongside page
six a story Wednesday. By the way, no one heckled you,
She wrote, So what's going on there? I'm not well.
I guess you know. What you say is heckling and
I say is heckling is two different things. Um, she
had said, like, I'm not over there yelling at her

(34:20):
making fun of her. I was doing it in my
own little space, but on my camera. She put on
her Instagram, so she she publicly heckled her. Yeah, yeah,
Um it is. I think what it is is that
there's so much hate between the two and history. And
supposedly Heather had said that she never wanted to come

(34:42):
back because of Kelly, and then of course Heather gets
back and Kelly has been fired. So Kelly feels like
Heather got her fired. And I think that she's not
going to let that go. She's not gonna let it go.
And you know, she's got her own podcast and shell
and Shelly Kelly is she's like chock what was it
called shock shock caller? Be like she shocks people like

(35:05):
like a Howard Stern like shock, Like that's what she
wants to shocked. She just wants to shock people on
her podcast. I Mean, the one thing is she's being
true to who she is. This is Kelly, Patty, wrong, legly,
whatever you want to call it. She's that's who she is.
And she's you know, using material on her podcast. So there,
she keeps going after her. But then Heather Debrow did

(35:27):
a little shady post as well yesterday where she put
you know, she's always dipped in all these logos and
labels and um something about you know, logo maniac or something.
Because Kelly made fun of her on Watch What Happens
Live and said, who wears that many labels? Every girl
on Beverly Hill, every girl in Beverly Hills, right like,

(35:48):
you know, findy hat, findy shirt, findy shoes, FINDI underwear,
findy purse, you know, And so she was making fun
of her. So she poked a little fun at so
you know, she's poking a little too. They're going back
and forth. But what did Kelly text, Well, I in
the morning, I drive to the gym and I always
listened to Andy Cohen in the morning. It just happens

(36:09):
beyond when I dropped Sophie off at school. Then I
drive to the gym, so I have about forty minutes
in the car, and um, they do a whole segment
on Kelly, like they Kelly News. Yeah, it's always Kelly News.
What did Kelly do now on social media? Right? And
sometimes Andy's like and other times he's like, I'm for it.
I love this. So we were talking about the heckling
and Andy goes, I left it. He said he loved it.

(36:31):
So then they went on to talk about us, and oh,
then Kelly called in. Kelly actually called in, and I
can't remember what she said, but oh, she said I
didn't heckle her, and he's like, yeah, you kind of
heckled her, and she's like, no, I didn't. I was
on my social media. So um. Then he started talking
about us two teas in a pod, and so I
think she just saw that we were, you know, he

(36:53):
was talking about her talking about me. So she called
me and I didn't pick up, and because I was
walking into the gym, I said, i'll call you afterwards,
and so we just chatted for a few seconds. But
she actually called me and apologized um, because our last
season together wasn't good. So since she left the show,
she called and apologized and we're we're good. We're fine,

(37:13):
You're fine, And I mean she Alicia is who she is,
the good, the bad, and the ugly. As he said,
al right. Next one, why Shannon Badore regrets telling Real
Housewives Orange County co stars about Dubrow lawsuit drama never
opened the BA door. In an exclusive interview with Page six,
Shannon Badoor says she regrets telling her Real Housewives Orange

(37:35):
County co stars Gina and Emily that series knew be
Nicole James allegedly sued Heather Debra's husband, fame plastic surgeon
Terry Debro years ago. I shouldn't have said it because
I never wanted it to come out on camera. So
she's gonna play this narrative till the end of time. Correct,
That's how she plays everything. She'll deny, deny, deny, never
admit anything. It wasn't my intent. Um, yeah, that's her.

(37:59):
It's it's not sense. I think people are starting to
see through it. And like I said last episode, when
you call somebody and say you need to get dirt
on this, you're an attorney. You can figure this out.
Then what else is your intent? Obviously it's to get
out there. And truthfully, if you don't want something to
come out about one of your co stars, you don't
tell them. Yeah, you just don't. You don't. She's smart

(38:22):
enough to know she's she's law school. She's very calculated.
She knows what she's doing, so she knew what she
was doing. And I applaud Emily. I never thought i'd
say that, And Gina for saying, listen, this is what
Hannah did. She called me, she did this, Heather, this
is what she did. So they're much better housewives than
she is. And I can't even be bothered to read

(38:43):
these articles. But on Bronwyn, but apparently she has a
new girlfriend. There's all these publicity pictures and she's moving
to New York. So she's had two big things. So
she already moved to New York. She's part time in
New York. Um, the girlfriend, Vic lives in New York.
They too, actually called me the other day. Um yeah,

(39:04):
and I talked to both of them on the phone.
She says she's the happiest she's ever been. And this
is like true love. You know that her ex girlfriend,
the one that the first time the pictures came out
is now dating another reality star, which one okay, the
girl with all the tattoos, the short hair, the one

(39:27):
that she was walking on the beach with. Yes, the
original like paparazzi stage shots, um that she needs to stop.
They don't ever look like that, like this is what
my papa, I'm a greasy one time. Some of them
might do this outfit on like the no I'm never

(39:47):
hot in a bikini, like canoodling with my husband. But
that girl is now dating Alexis Nyers. She became super
famous because she was part of the Bling Ring. Okay, okay,
so now she said, this girl has an agenda. So
I mean, I don't know. I have some update news

(40:10):
on um Noella. So after I had talked last episode
that she showed me pictures of her husband's ning dong,
she kind of wrote some stuff on my Instagram page
saying like why would you do that? Like you know,
some guy said, oh, she showed me too, and she's
like yeah, but why would you go on a podcast

(40:30):
that is mean? Mean girl? Da da da da. So
I just went back and I said, you know, I'm
sorry I didn't think you care. You've been very open
about it. Whatever. So she texts me. I didn't even
have her phone in my phone, but I knew. She's like,
thank you for the apology. I'm like, Noella, who did
I apologize today to right? And so she was really
sweet about it, and um, she said like, let's get together,

(40:53):
you know, let's go do lunch or something, have drinks
and talked about the show a little bit. So she's
fine with me now. And I said, well, why you
come on and we can discuss um, you know, and
if you want to send Teddy the dick PI, she
would love to see it. And she's like, I deleted
those what that's so rude, Noel. And now we have
another bone to pick with you. I know. Oh the

(41:16):
show was called pretty Wild and she had all these
iconic like sayings, and then she ended up being addicted
to drugs and now she she wrote a book called
like Recovering from Reality. But anyway, she's with that girl
and they're now in the same Alexis is married to
a man and then also with what Yes, so it's

(41:36):
the same situation. Yes, as Braun wish. I don't know, no,
but the difference is Alexis is still happily married to
her husband, where I think Braun was considered separated. Right, Um,
they are separated. I don't know that they're getting divorced,
but I think that they lived together part time for
the kid's sake. So I'm not sure what their arrangements are.
But Shawn seems to have the kids a lot, and

(41:58):
he has like the state that you know, the house
and in Orange County where the kids go to school locally,
and then braun Wyn is in back and forth from
New York to Orange County in Miami and Pump Springs
and all the things in Puerto Rico and Win's our trip.
We should like, we just need to go on a
trip and pod from there. Yes, I would love that,

(42:18):
or even on like at the improv or on stage
and have guests. Yeah, we'll really do whatever. Guys. Let's
let's keep it going, all right. The next one to report,
Luanne says Ramona Singer's behavior on Real Housewives Girls Trip

(42:41):
is sad cue the violence. An exclusive new interview with
Page six, Luanne says that her power Ramona Singers polarizing
behavior on the Real Housewives of Ultimate Girls Trip is
just plain sad. It was unexpected. I felt kind of
sad for her, The Countess fifty six tells us reflecting
on the moment, Singer six five shared intimate details of

(43:01):
lisps sex life with ex husband Tom. I don't know
how to pronounce this last name on the um. Well,
I think and I want to talk to Kyle about this,
because she lived at like what the hell like Ramona
that she was out of control, She was rude, she
was disrespectful. Um, it was not a good look for her.

(43:22):
Do you think it almost seemed like at parts she
I mean, I remember when I was like blackout drunk
um in Provence. You can tell like I'm not even
aware of my surroundings. Like actually, there were parts where
she kind of seemed like she didn't, you know, like
when she couldn't find her phone. I mean, granted I
lose my phone five thousand times a day without a

(43:44):
sip of alcohol, but there was just part you could
see it in the eyes, just like she wasn't tracking.
Ramona has been on reality TV a long time. She
knows how it works. So to get that drunk for
that many days, like you can't really blame it on alcohol.
You know what you're doing. It's all right to get
like tipsy. I've been stupid drunk. It's never a good

(44:07):
look on you know why you're filming. I try not to.
You want to know. The sad thing for me, the
one time I was super drunk was when everybody liked
me the most. Oh are you serious? We should do
a drunk podcast? When I mean, because that was my
most like that I got the most. Well, do you

(44:27):
think that maybe you are super into your head and
worried and things like that where you're more of a
control freak where you don't want to let loose, and
then when you do let loose, people like, oh my god,
it's amazing. I think that I'm very Type A and
I'm diagnosed O c D. So like, I know that
I have those certain things where I wish if I
could openly have talked about them, we could have gone

(44:49):
like I mean, I brought it up before and talked
about it on camera, just was never shown. But when
you're drunk or even tipsy, that's removed, right. Did you
drink a lot when you were filming? Other than in Provence,
I would only have to drinks like that, So you
were really in control. I was really in control. And
then in Provence the daste, like when when you go

(45:13):
on these international trips, there's like no sleep, Like there's
no sleep you land. The most fun you have on
trips are on the airplanes because they can't film you
the entire time, Like they just filmed me for seconds,
so we all have they do give you a camera,
yeah they do. They can film each other. Um. And
so we had already been drinking on the plane. Then
we landed, didn't go to sleep, like, had to get

(45:35):
ourselves ready. And because this was you know, none of
the girls even had glam on this trip. There was
the one trip that they wouldn't let any of the
girls have glam. Not that I ever brought glam. It
was was cheap, but um, but I just like and
then I kept going and then I we went wine tasting,
and then on the way from wine tasting, I drank
wine like it was the one time I didn't and

(45:56):
like I remember having to wake up and call my
entire family, and I was like begging producers to tell
me what happened. Like I was like crying to Laser.
I was like, are you more worried about for yourself,
what you will look like in a situation like that,
or your kids and your kids and my dad and
my husband, and like, my husband was like, you called

(46:17):
me thirteen times last night, and I was like, oh
my god, was it on camera? And he's like, I
don't know if it was on camera or not. You're
a crazy person. Oh my gosh, yeah, Eddie. See, he
didn't really like that. He didn't like the fact that
I would drink so much, because in our normal day
to day life, we don't. We rarely will drink at home,
like if we go out with friends, will have a cocktail.

(46:39):
He's he doesn't drink hardly at all, and I will
have a couple and he does not like it. He
can't stand it. So when I would film, I would
have to drink to let my guard down, and I
would get myself in trouble. And then I'd watch back
and like, oh, well, that's the hard thing. It's a
thin line. You're you're letting your guard down. But then

(46:59):
sometimes you it to the point where then the next
day it causes you more problems than good. Well, yeah,
it caused me a lot of problems. But I also
got Center Orange seven times and seat next to Andy
seven times, so hey, you know what, I should have
drank more right. The moral of the story is, if
you want to be on reality TV, get wasted, get drunk,
and cause problems. Yeah, alright, what else we got? Uh?

(47:23):
Erica Jane caps off an interesting year by launching her
hair extension line. Congratulations to Ericas and her Congrats. That's awesome.
She always has the most you know, her hairstyles are
always next level, so this is huge. And uh, that's
really all we have time for today. Oh, Joe Gorga
bombs during stand up comedy. Wife yanks him off stage.

(47:46):
We're gonna have to ask Melissa about that when she
comes from what yanks him? I didn't see, didn't he?
Joe Gorgon? This is from TMZ Joe Gorgo. It must
be true then TMZ. Right, Joe Gorgon might be great
on Reality to TV, but he definitely is not killing
it with his stand up comedy routine. I didn't even
know I had one, at least not during a recent

(48:06):
New York City gig. The Real Housewives of New Jersey
store bombed during a comedy set earlier this month at
the Governor's Comedy Club. Where Joe took the mic at
one point and things went south quickly. Check it out.
Joe tried telling a joke slash story about some guys
he knows, but it came out pretty incoherently and more importantly,
not funny at all. He ignored some light jeering and
rolled on his act. It looks like the audience was

(48:27):
trying to cut him some slack, entertaining his repeated are
you guys ready line, which he used ad nauseum but
never really paid off with an actual punch line. We're
told the crowd eventually turned on him when he started
to curse at them, which you can also hear in
the video. One of his pals tried pulling him off stage,
but Joe wouldn't go, that is until his wife Melissa
came on and gave him. He was probably so nervous.

(48:48):
Was this his first stand up? I don't know, I
would imagine now. Joe's manager responded, was Joe was sick
that day? He had a cold. He took super stop
back up Scotches. It just okay, Shannon, you know what
I'm gonna say if I get in trouble on this
podcast today for anything, I'm gonna say it's because I
have this cold that's still late. It's because Tamara told

(49:09):
me to drink, That's what it was. It's because I
had three drinks with camera camera with Tamra the other
night and it's just still lingering on hum. It sounded
like he bombed. You. Gotta give him kudos for doing that,
because stand up comedy is got to be rough. That's
that's gotta be a hard gig. And just the fact
that he went up and did that, what made him
think he could do that is my question? Like it's unclear.

(49:32):
I mean, I think he's funny on the show, but
he's funny in the same way I say my husband's funny,
not funny to laugh at you. I'm curious to see
what Melissa, because she seems like she's a very supportive wife,
so she probably was like, Okay, you know, try it out,
see if you like it, but secretly going yeah, I
don't think kicking me under the table type thing, right,
And then in final closing out did you see the

(49:55):
Real Housewives in Miami trailer? I did? It? Looks so good,
so good? And then even like they're they're they're pictures,
they're pictures of them, like they're the promo picture that
went out press picture so beautiful, Like I feel like
it looks really beautiful, lovely. We're like, I mean, I

(50:16):
think it's gonna be pretty juicy. Where Larsa gets read
at the end about having the Kardashian but now and
blah blah blah. I was like, how about the fans
only are only fans? What's it called only fans? She's
additionally only fans allegedly, so does she show. I don't
know if we're gonna should we get only fans accounts
and just so we can stop other people? Well, I'll
tell you somebody talked me into it. Somebody only fans

(50:39):
reached out to me, talked me into sign up. But
I never used it. What I never used I never
even want to set up a profile. The headlines are
going to be jo Joins only two years. It was
like two years ago and when they first came out,
maybe even longer. And I'm like, oh no, I don't
want to do that, Like, no, I'm not doing get
your new vibrators and joining only fans and tell them

(51:01):
that they have to come along and listen to the
pod only if I launched my own vibrator. Oh, I
would like to do that. I'll go with you and
do it. I'll do the testers, all right. We gotta
wrap for today. Thank you guys so much for joining
us for two teas at a pod. Please email in
to us, send us d M S, let us know
what you want us to talk about, who you want
us to dig into and Tama, thanks for another great pod.

(51:22):
Talk to you soon. Good Bye,
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