June 8, 2023 • 32 mins
With her first episode back on RHOC, Tamra is filled with a bunch of emotions!
Tamra gives us all the BTS of WWHL from last night including all the Teresa drama.
Dorinda had something to say about Tamra’s tagline and confronts her about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra
je Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi, guys, welcome to a special added episode of to
Teas in a Pod this week, just because I watch
What Happens Live last night with my.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Girl Tamra, and you were so good. We had to
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How did you like it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
One? You looked so beautiful And I was like so
furious that I gave away my green dress now from
the Neon.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Festival because we could have been this in the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my god, I'll yeah, I will give you that
outfit because you know I can't ever wear it again.
And by the way, yours was one thousand dollars. Mine
was one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's yours. Beach, It's beach.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's some I've been getting all these weird websites for
all these different I know I have that, but I have.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That same exact like cover up, but it's a cover
up for a bathing suit, and it doesn't have a
closure in the front.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's just open.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So I saw this one. This one is it has
like crystals beat it onto it everywhere, So it's one
of those you have to It's very delicate. You can't.
I couldn't wear it as a cover up. I would
I wouldn't want to sit on it because it's no.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's how my cover up. It hurt me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Remember when I was in for Kyle's birthday and I
kept saying how much pain I was in?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It was because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yours was like more of a robe, right it was, Yeah,
it was a robe.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, but this one.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Has big, giant crystals on it. They're not little, they're
big ones. They're all different sizes. But it wasn't what
I was originally gonna wear. I had this other outfit
to wear, and then uh, they're like, oh my god, no,
you have to wear this.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right. You looked stunning.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And I appreciated the Stuart Weitzman shoes and chrome.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I liked all the things.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Those were Ysls.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh were they they the same one?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah? Yeah, they're the Yls in the silver.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh yeah, I didn't know they had them in the silver.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I thought that because I went into Stuart Whitesman the
other day to try to find our other shoes that
we like, the black ones and another color, and I
didn't have it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna ask you questions many,
I have a mini setup right here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, well we have no rundown today, so it's just
my chicken scratch that I wrote down.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Where we start? Can we go over the head the
taglines really quick?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Can we Can we do that? Because I mean, oh
my god. I I knew that this was an option,
and I didn't really want it because Derenda had said,
you know, she's been saying forever, I'm on pause. I'm
on pause, and so I'm like, I don't know if
that's a great one because and of course, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What happened.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Derenda gave me the text, No, what did she say?
She's like, that's my tagline, Like I go, I know,
I know, trust me. I was hoping there was another
one that was like something about I hate liars or
something like that, but she was Joe. She was like,
you know, it's cool. Whatever I go, it's a tribute
(03:04):
to you, because she's originally the one that always said
she was on pause. But let's start with Heather's I
lived my life in HD, sharp, bright and more focused
than ever. I like that one thought.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I like that one you want to read the next.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
One Shannon in Orange County, I call the shots and
it's always tequila.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't love I don't love it, but I don't
hate it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But she's doing the thing that Kyle Shannon always do
the in Orange County, like Kyle like in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, I don't think she has. Maybe she has before,
like something to do with Orange County, but I don't know.
I don't think she's thrilled with it, just because you
know it's got alcohol in it and it's like, okay, whatever.
But Emily's has tacos in it. If you want to
waste my time, at least hand me a taco. I
don't understand this. It doesn't make any sense. What does
(03:57):
the taco mean? We saw her last year in Turkey
Sandwich inside of a sauna. That would have made sense
to me. But yeah, like it would waste waste my time.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It doesn't even make okay?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is there some I mean I would rather see, don't
waste my time. Come eat my taco, yeah, la la,
come eat my cookie.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But my question is, does something significant happen with the
taco this season?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Because sometimes there's like.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's what I was thinking, but waste time tacos.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I don't know, wondering was her biggest fight this
year out a Mexican restaurant or in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
We filed in Mexico. Oh, I don't remember. It's obviously
some kind of inside joke that we haven't seen yet,
is what I'm thinking, because it doesn't make any sense
at all.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I also didn't get this one.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The difference between my past and my present, Well, that's
just apples and oranges.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, you don't get it because she's from New York
and so you know apples oranges. I thought was creative, creative, Jen,
My core may be strong, but my resilience is stronger
that I think it's good considering I know what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, and then mine, I might have been on pause,
but now I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I would rather say I'm ready to slay.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, I'm glad you said play. I'm glad you should play.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But my god, Emily's is so bad.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh, I need to know if Emily had anything to
do with hers.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I mean, of course we always had like everybody always
has the option of like not reading one.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but I think that would have been one of
the ones I chose not to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Read exactly exactly now.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And then they'll go, it's a bravo ask, and you're like, still, no.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's still a hard pass.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, first of all, let me, I'm want to ask
you a question, how did the read? Because I haven't
listened to it. We got into New York City at midnight,
our flame, our plane was a little bit delayed, and
then we by the time we got into our hotel
room is like two in the morning and all that
and then I couldn't sleep. I think my energy for
the show and everything was tightened, and then to an
(06:12):
hour sleep. Then I got up, got glammed by Priscilla
and Julius, and then oh my gosh, I was gone
press all day long. Didn't get back to the room
until four. I had like an hour and a half
to just lay there, and then I had to go
right to the studio. So super super exhausted.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I bet well the recap I was.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have to be honest, I always get nervous when
I'm not doing it with you, Like there's that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Did somebody do their research?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are they going to know what's happening, And like I
and Cynthia is, she was so good. She showed like
a different like she came in fresh because she's never
watched O good and she was really good. And she
made points that I'm not sure I would have thought
of on my own. So I loved doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Any highlights of what she had said or the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The biggest thing that she said was that she felt
like Shannon was quite cold when it came to when
you started getting emotional. Yeah, And I guess I kind
of overlooked it because I'm like, oh, they're fine now.
So I watched it with like a little bit of
blinders on, right, and she was like no, Like there
was this moment where that was like the most awkward
(07:21):
hug in the world, and then that was like there
was things, which then brings me to watch What Happens
Live last night. When you saw Shannon say she got
fired in regards to why you guys stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, then that really clarifies what I had been saying. Yeah,
so you know, it's it is what it is and
it's not whatever I You're like.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't want to get into it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't want to get into it. I don't want
to I don't want to go backwards. But like I said,
we disagreed to disagree. Yeah, right there. But so that
that same conversation, something really interested happened. That's when Emily
drank out of a dog bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh yeah, we talked about.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That and I rest in Peaces. I think his names Fisker.
Her dog just passed away.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh my gosh. Well, I was going to say it
wasn't even her dog's bull. It was Archie's Archie's ball.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Archie's a big boy and he's always like he's licking
that butthole and he's.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
All the things. Something I agreed with on the pole,
the Ryan not hot.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, and then Andy goes something like when he's like, oh,
I think this thing's broken, and then he's like, oh no,
here it goes. He goes, oh, this ain't good, and.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Then he just quickly had it turn off.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Turn off, and then he's like, well, I think it's
about his body.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Then also talking about like as we they didn't actually
ask this part on Watch What Happens Live, but seeing
all the women almost seem scared of you coming back
or saying that you talk behind people's back.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
How did that make you feel watching it?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think that one thing that bothered me is Gina's
opening line when I was on the motorcycle, where she's
like Tamra talks about her friends, which is so far
from the truth. Like, I'll tell you whatever I have
to say right to your face. I don't do it
behind your back.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah no, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Also on page six, you said you on your in
an interview that Heather did something shitty to you.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
How long do we have to wait before we find
out what she did?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
All the way to the n oh hell yeah, yeah,
comes right after our makeup and there's ever a problem,
let's talk about it, and then yeah, okay, it's insanity,
all right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So that makes me a little bit. How does it
feel actually being back on TV now that you watched
yourself you were on watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I have been on a total high. I've been so
busy leading up to it that I just have haven't
even thought about it. And it's been so long since
we actually stopped filming, so it just kind of disappeared
out of my mind, and even up until the time
I got here in the press, and all that I
just didn't even think about until I was actually in
it last night, and I knew that was going to happen.
(10:15):
It's just like when I finally got there, I'm like,
oh my god, this is really happening. Yeah, I mean
it was great. And then all the people reaching out
to me, and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was going to say, anybody that you didn't expect,
Not that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I didn't expect, but what I really appreciated was Doug Ross,
who used to be owner of The Evolution, and it
was really sweet because you know, we all miss him.
Everybody that's worked with Doug over I mean decades. He's
the best. So that was really nice. You know, Charae
I got the surprise of my life and Charat was
at Water Supper. I didn't know she was there. You know,
(10:49):
I love Charay and we talk and she actually promoted
the show and she's so kind to me. And so
I walked out there to go to the bathroom and
they were pre taping and they had just come out
and it was Charay and I heard poor she was able.
I didn't see her. I think she left by the
time I came out, and so talk to her, got
to do some good pictures and tiktoks and gonna go
(11:10):
to dinner with her tonight. So that was exciting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm okay, I very rarely get fomo, but at this
moment I.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Have a little fomo. Oh you doubt the dinner was Chara.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh look flying out. You can be here, you can
be here in time.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I have I have so many more questions after this
last episode. Okay, but high and low moment from the
actual episode.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You can't say seeing Chara.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
High and low moment from the episode or from well
either way, from watch What Happens Live or the episode
fan question. I think the high of the episode was
seeing my mom on the show and joking around with Eddie.
It's I mean, that's how it is all the time
between the two of them.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So why you're on your highs Eddie seems not that
I saw much before because I didn't watch as much before.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But he seems so comfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, yes, is he liking it now? He is liking
it now, and he you know, he likes the cast better.
And when you have a really nasty cast and they
go after your business and all that stuff, he don't
want a part of it. You don't want a part
of it. So now you know it's it's a cast
that you know has morals and feelings, and yeah, we argue,
but we don't go like ugly ugly.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, like there's a there's a point. And then what
was what was your low moment other than the Shannon stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I think the low moment is the air quality in
New York right now. It was like crazy, it was scary, spooky.
When we landed, I had gotten a message saying there's
a wildfire in Canada. And even though it's I don't know,
eight hours away or something like that, it was just
brushing through the city. Got off the plane. You could
smell the smoke. Yesterday, it came out of press you
(12:55):
could barely see.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah. I mean, my sister's there too. I saw both
of you guys in masks.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
They handed out masks like you can't eat outside. They
don't want people outside. They actually the smoke is coming
into people's apartments. They're asking you to get like a
wet towel and put it in all the cracks near
your doors. It's really bad. People are going to the hospital.
It's the worst air quality. And I think they said
since the nineteen sixties Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's little kids too that are like cooped up in there.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, they've closed schools down, some of the Broadway shows
have been closed down, Yankee Stadium, all these outdoor places
and really want people to stay inside. Air Quality looks
a little bit better today, but not not perfect. Oh sure,
it's going to be a few days. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And so you leave tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We leave tomorrow morning early and we head out for
our ten year, ten year wedding anniversary trip. So we're
really excited about that, and then we'll be gone a week.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I love it. Okay. Then also on the episode, there
was a moment where I'm not gonna lie. I had
a little bit of fear.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was like, shit, TAM's gonna shade me and I'm
gonna get my feelings hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh I'm really I would have because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is what always happens, and this is why I
want to point out something about you. The majority of people,
even if they're your friends, go and watch what Happens
live and then when asked a question they're about their friend,
they're gonna be a little bit shady or I just.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Had people pleaser like whatever the viewers want to hear
is what they're going to tell them, is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, And I really thought for a moment, I'm like,
all right, just be prepared. She's going in, she's doing
her job. Don't take it personally.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And then you were like just nice, like so what happened?
I was like, oh my, I honestly was bracing my teddy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That makes me sadd because it just makes me feel
like you're so used to being shaded by people, even
your friends, Like that's just sad.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, I mean, I think it goes to show.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
They bring me up again on watch What Happens Live,
and it's because somebody he called me a nat.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, well, well well I did kind of shade you.
In the after show though, great.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
All right, we'll tell me what you said, because I
didn't I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And the after show Andy asked, is there any housewife
that has been really upset with something like that? And
to Teason and podsthing we had said, and I go,
the better question is like, who hasn't gotten mad at us?
And I go, Honestly, I don't really like to shade
the you know, the other housewives. We'd like to have
him on his guests. I go, but Teddy, on the
other hand, she likes a little shade.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That, you know what. I'm fine with that. I know,
you know, I know my position here.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But and he agreed, he did.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, what else did he say? Did he say anything?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
He also said that he really enjoyed our interview, which
I thought was really nice. I don't think he's done
an interview with housewife like that. He really appreciated that
we read it, took the time to read his book,
and he was just really he thought it was great.
I guess he did a lot of interviews promoting this
book where people didn't even read it, didn't even notice about.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I know, well, that shows we're you know what, we're
true journalists, tam You read one book in twenty years
and we we will.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Let me just tell you now, I've been walking the
halls yesterday of NBC at thirty Rock, and I can't
tell you how many people walk. Oh my god, Tamara,
first of all, happier back, but oh my god, to
teas in a pod is so amazing. And now when
I sit down to do these interviews, they talk to
me as if I'm a journalist. Now Tamra, what do
(16:31):
you what is your opinion on, you know, the reunion
for New Jersey and all this stuff, And I'm like that,
I'm got on that show. Why are we talking about that?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh? First to always a twat?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay. The next thing that happened was I went on
live right before I got on this podcast with you
to ask what questions people had, and I got some
mixed action coming in hot of course because some people,
of course they're like Tamra the goat, because she didn't
(17:03):
even hesitate when asked who the most overrated housewife is.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You didn't even like, you didn't even need to clear,
like you still were mid drinking. You're like forsa.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I know I wasn't mid drink. I remember going like this.
I think I even said it with my head turned
still drinking. I need. I think she's just on the
top of my mind right now because I watched the
reunion and some of the things that were said and
done at the reunion just got under my skin so bad,
you know, and it just I don't know. I hate
(17:34):
to I really do hate to shade anyone. And typically
I would have said me, you know whatever, right, I
don't care but I do feel like, you know, she's
highly rated and oh but so deserving.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Do you think she's gonna come for you even.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, no her, the bots that are gonna be bought
the box, they're gonna come for me.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How do I sugarcoat this way? I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, the bots, Yeah, they're coming from me. Hot
I'm sure. Okay, as long as they I'm sick. Bo
Diddley on me ugh bo needle bo needel loo needle.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, this why we're on the topic of Jersey before
we get into scan of all of it all.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just saw that Jacqueline Lareda claims that Delores on
these leaked text messages.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We didn't cover this the other day, and people are
now sending me all these things. They're saying that Jacqueline
is claiming that Dolores talks badly about Teresa when she's
not on camera.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
She stays silent on camera.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, this first of all, go back to this is
from twenty twenty one. What was the relationship like with
Delores and Teresa back then, because I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
They've always been close.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But here's the thing I can say firsthand, I Dolores
has always been somebody I've kept in touch with on
the Housewives, like even back from the beginning, like, and
she never once has.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Said anything negative about Teresa.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like I can't say that same. You know, I don't
know her that well, but anytime I've ever talked to her,
she's always been extremely pleasant. And we had her on
the podcast and I don't recall her talking. She doesn't
really talk badly about anybody, even people that she doesn't
really care for on the show. No, she can be,
but I feel like it's just not her personality.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, And I mean I've talked to her throughout this
season and she isn't a shit talker like that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
She just doesn't. No, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And so I don't believe it, and I especially don't
believe that she would tell it to Jacqueline.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do they even talk anymore?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't. I mean that I don't know obviously, not
if she's saying that.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, all right, but now we got to get into
scandalbal Okay, the scandal first and foremost, Did Lala tell
you anything off air?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The only thing that I do know is they're going
to start filming like in a couple of weeks, So
there's going to be no break. They don't know who's
returning yet. I'm gonna, you know, I predict the entire
cast is going to be returning, including Rachel. And I
love that they got into an argument over her name.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm gonna say, Tam, we may have to disagree now.
I'm going to go back to calling her Raquel. I
feel bad for her a little.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, her name's Rachel. She changed her name to Raquel.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
She's like, no, she didn't. It is a nick once
she explained it, it's not a nickname.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's two different names. It's like saying it's like, your
name's Theodore and they call you Teddy. That's a nickname.
My name is.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Teddy Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I went by Teddy Joe for all of my childhood,
and the second I got into like grade school, I
was like, it's.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Teddy, Like I don't want to be Teddy.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think I Once, she said, I thought it happened
when she like moved to la and I was like, oh,
for Peter's sake, but it didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It happened in the first grade. Have you decided that
there was and show that's right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You're right, Okay, I'll great I'll give.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, she said there's two Rachel's and I didn't. I
wanted it to be different. But here's okay, here's where
I have my issue.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
One.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I have lots of problems with Tom, Like I think
Tom goes above and beyond. Like when he said the
T shirt comment, it made me feel sick.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I know then I did reevaluate what I would have
been and singing I'm like.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I actually thought what you said was funny and so true.
There's so many times.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That like we are in a T shirt like and
then there's so many times that it's off. Yeah just raise it, yeah,
just lift it up.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Whatever you're lucky. If I take off my.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mile exactly, sometimes my underwear around my ankles, like who cares?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, if you're getting it in, what do you care?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Really, it doesn't matter how you get it in or
what you're wearing.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But in my opinion, saying something like.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That is almost well, it was body shaming, disrespectful. He's
already like he just admitted like, yeah, real hot, he
didn't want he didn't really want.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It, yeah, and like already calling her so I'm not
the way that they talk to one another.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Ariana and and Tom I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It all, that's all. They screamed back and forth.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I mean it was, it was I get it.
Those two have a lot to get through. But when
I actually started realizing what Raquela is talking about and
going through, I think she's not crying because she's like
disassociating from what she's done.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And if she's trying to keep her story straight, well.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, she's also panicked because if she her story, her
boyfriend's going to be furious at her. Right, And you
can tell she's now has a pattern of the men.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
She chooses.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Where they kind of control her. And I'm not saying
that she isn't also to blame. Of course she is,
but I thought that there was a level of it
taking it too far on the attacks.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I will tell you I got a little softer side
of Lalla about We had a conversation about Raquel color.
We did Color Rachel, and I said, you know, I
I worry about her mental health. And after watching that
sit down in her actually showing emotion and everything and
being just totally brutalized by the public, I said, I
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feel bad for her. She goes I do too. I'm
starting to feel bad, I said, because there's something God
forbid where to happen to her. Yeah, that would be horrible, horrible,
and she's a human being.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But I'm a human being.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She's a human Tom, I give two shits.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Really.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean at first I felt bad for him after
last reunion, but after this one.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He No, That's what I'm saying, Like, Tom, you're your
own issue. Obviously, Raquel has some issues, and everybody attacking
her online that she didn't get emotional.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There's two types of people.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There's people like me who like I cannot hold it
in for a second, like it starts to come, tears
are going to come out.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I can't help myself. It's who I am.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But there's also people that are able to completely keep
a start, Like, for example, I've only seen Duri cry
one time, and I've seen her go through some really
gnarly stuff and you can even just don't cry.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, she get in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah she can hold it in and she I actually
asked her about it, and she said, I was kind
of taught from.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
A young age to hold it out like that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You don't cry, like through my dad or through my
family or whatever, like this was kind of what happened.
And so she she really doesn't, and I think there
are just some people like that, and I so that.
I also when you could finally see her with Jeremiah,
who used to work with me by the way, at
Uta was, Oh my god, I know Jeremiah, but uh,
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you can tell she's like trying to find humor in
it because she's so distraught, like she doesn't even know
what to do, like what end is up?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Do you think after seeing that sit down, that last interview,
do you think that Tom and Raquel are no longer
together and that maybe she said, I can't do this,
I'm moving forward. I'm gonna have to come clean from
my own I have to protect myself because I'm lying
and I'm getting brought down even lower than I should be.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I mean, I don't know if they're together or not together.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I would assume if he wants to be back on
the show, he probably needs to stay with her because
there's really no connect Like people I feel like still
will want to hear from her in some capacity, and
I feel like at this point with he's really dug
himself a hole.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What were your thoughts when Rachel said she asked Tom
if they would be interested in a Threufle.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think if that would have been a conversation that
was had brier to them having sex behind her back,
I don't know that it would have been too off off.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The cuff, not because I mean, right yeah, I mean
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
However, the fact that Ario wasn't involved in it, and
something that made a key point to me was when
uh Raquel admitted that she had essentially an emotional affair
with Sandoval but never felt comfortable fully opening up to
arian It you start to see what's happening. So, yes,
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they all hung out, but I think it was because
of that relationship that she and Tom had built. Yeah,
and so then it it just it's it's sick, and
then you start getting addicted to it, and it's all this,
it's all these things. But I did think the level
of attack they were doing at her, like you'll never
(26:43):
be forgiven your floor on your dirt, like, I don't know,
I don't have that kind of anger and right like,
and I know that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
She Ariana was clearly in her angry stage of grief
because the one time that she did break down and
cry and Tom's balling, I really felt for her, Like,
I mean, I've always felt for her and I feel
like this is such a horrible situation. But there was
so much name calling and screaming amongst everybody that it
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was kind of like, oh God, just I want to
feel the emotion, like I want to hear this, like
how do you really feel? And not that I wanted
to see her cry, but that kind of really touched
my heart.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, no, you could see that, like it it's hurting her.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And that's the part that actually I think will help
people not make the same mistakes again.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The anger and the fighting and the screaming.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So much is like okay, And like, what was James
even doing other than attack like they've all, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It just was a lot for me.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
James is a lot period. How about the thoughts on
Raquel saying that she hung out with Tom's mom and
she knew.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean, I'm going to get heat for saying this,
and it doesn't none of what I'm saying is excusing
what I think that Tom did. I think it was
disgusting and absolutely inappropriate, but I think it shows the
lack of.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Relationship that Tom and ari on a truly still had.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, Like I think you can be in a relationship
and not really be in the relationship and the relationship
and I actually said this to Cynthia the other day.
I said, listen, in marriages and relationships, there are highs
and lows. There are times where I feel really connected
to Edwin and there's times I don't. That being said,
when you start to feel it loose en up like that,
I mean, I'm sure you have the same with Eddie,
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then you're like, Okay, I have a choice right now.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I either make the effort.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
To make this better better yea, why I keep looking
at my phone and avoiding whatever it is that's going
on with us? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Can we switch over to watch What Happens Live for
one quick moment? Yeah, I'm like, Eddie's like, oh, Shannon's
being mad at you, and and Andy's like, oh, she's
gonna be mad. When I made the comment that I
did not see it coming that John was gonna dump,
was that bad? No?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean it wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It was just I think the word dump, well, break
up sounds better than dump.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I know, but like, I know, but you're not don't think.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm not an overthinker, and I don't sugar coat things,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I have you talked to Shannon since?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Why don't you text? I know, I don't know. I
have so many text messages.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But like just you can type in s H A
N N O N oh, thank you mom.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I love you, my friend. He did a great job tonight.
Oh yeah, yeah. And she went on to talk about
other stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But yeah, but nothing so she saw it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hope you're having a fun night.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, did VICKI text?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Was that bad? What I did?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
No? Not bad, but it just it just broke off,
I said, did VICKI text?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I thought? No? No, no, I thought you meant about
my comment? No, no, no no, because there was a
comment where they were.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Out about Brooks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh and I yeah, and then I just drank. I
didn't know what to say. I'm like, I don't want
to give this any life.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
No, I didn't think it was bad. I just meant,
did VICKI text you to congratulate you?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't
see it. Maybe she did, Maybe she did in a
group text. I don't know. I have so many texts
right now. Ah huh.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That this is what we call dodging. The question, folks,
Oh my gosh. All right, well, I know that you're
going to go enjoy your trip.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Is there? What else have we missed anything?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I think that is good. I do want to let
everybody not only am I back, but our happy place
teach the Seltzer's are back. So you go to Vina
website and order some because you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh I need some more too. Okay, all right, well
it tam.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I'm so happy for you, honestly, friend, I know that
I don't get muchy often, but I did text you
last night and I was just like, I'm so proud
of you.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You are, I know, but you are like you are
meant to do this, Like you're you light up the screen.
You look so beautiful and stunning, and you're funny, and
you're it comes off naturally to you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And I just wanted to say like, I'm so happy
for you, thank.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You, I appreciate, I love you. And I'm a little
concerned for next week's episode that oh no, that's when
the sit down with me and Shannon, and it's not pretty.
Not pretty, all.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Right, guys, Well, I guess you'll have to be tuning
in to that recap because is I'm sure we'll have
a lot to say and but we'll be back Monday
to talk all things Atlanta. H
Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra
je Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi, guys, welcome to a special added episode of to
Teas in a Pod this week, just because I watch
What Happens Live last night with my.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Girl Tamra, and you were so good. We had to
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How did you like it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
One? You looked so beautiful And I was like so
furious that I gave away my green dress now from
the Neon.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Festival because we could have been this in the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my god, I'll yeah, I will give you that
outfit because you know I can't ever wear it again.
And by the way, yours was one thousand dollars. Mine
was one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's yours. Beach, It's beach.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's some I've been getting all these weird websites for
all these different I know I have that, but I have.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That same exact like cover up, but it's a cover
up for a bathing suit, and it doesn't have a
closure in the front.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's just open.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So I saw this one. This one is it has
like crystals beat it onto it everywhere, So it's one
of those you have to It's very delicate. You can't.
I couldn't wear it as a cover up. I would
I wouldn't want to sit on it because it's no.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's how my cover up. It hurt me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Remember when I was in for Kyle's birthday and I
kept saying how much pain I was in?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It was because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yours was like more of a robe, right it was, Yeah,
it was a robe.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, but this one.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Has big, giant crystals on it. They're not little, they're
big ones. They're all different sizes. But it wasn't what
I was originally gonna wear. I had this other outfit
to wear, and then uh, they're like, oh my god, no,
you have to wear this.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right. You looked stunning.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And I appreciated the Stuart Weitzman shoes and chrome.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I liked all the things.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Those were Ysls.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh were they they the same one?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah? Yeah, they're the Yls in the silver.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh yeah, I didn't know they had them in the silver.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I thought that because I went into Stuart Whitesman the
other day to try to find our other shoes that
we like, the black ones and another color, and I
didn't have it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna ask you questions many,
I have a mini setup right here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, well we have no rundown today, so it's just
my chicken scratch that I wrote down.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Where we start? Can we go over the head the
taglines really quick?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Can we Can we do that? Because I mean, oh
my god. I I knew that this was an option,
and I didn't really want it because Derenda had said,
you know, she's been saying forever, I'm on pause. I'm
on pause, and so I'm like, I don't know if
that's a great one because and of course, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What happened.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Derenda gave me the text, No, what did she say?
She's like, that's my tagline, Like I go, I know,
I know, trust me. I was hoping there was another
one that was like something about I hate liars or
something like that, but she was Joe. She was like,
you know, it's cool. Whatever I go, it's a tribute
(03:04):
to you, because she's originally the one that always said
she was on pause. But let's start with Heather's I
lived my life in HD, sharp, bright and more focused
than ever. I like that one thought.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I like that one you want to read the next.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
One Shannon in Orange County, I call the shots and
it's always tequila.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't love I don't love it, but I don't
hate it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But she's doing the thing that Kyle Shannon always do
the in Orange County, like Kyle like in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, I don't think she has. Maybe she has before,
like something to do with Orange County, but I don't know.
I don't think she's thrilled with it, just because you
know it's got alcohol in it and it's like, okay, whatever.
But Emily's has tacos in it. If you want to
waste my time, at least hand me a taco. I
don't understand this. It doesn't make any sense. What does
(03:57):
the taco mean? We saw her last year in Turkey
Sandwich inside of a sauna. That would have made sense
to me. But yeah, like it would waste waste my time.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It doesn't even make okay?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is there some I mean I would rather see, don't
waste my time. Come eat my taco, yeah, la la,
come eat my cookie.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But my question is, does something significant happen with the
taco this season?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Because sometimes there's like.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's what I was thinking, but waste time tacos.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I don't know, wondering was her biggest fight this
year out a Mexican restaurant or in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
We filed in Mexico. Oh, I don't remember. It's obviously
some kind of inside joke that we haven't seen yet,
is what I'm thinking, because it doesn't make any sense
at all.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I also didn't get this one.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The difference between my past and my present, Well, that's
just apples and oranges.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, you don't get it because she's from New York
and so you know apples oranges. I thought was creative, creative, Jen,
My core may be strong, but my resilience is stronger
that I think it's good considering I know what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, and then mine, I might have been on pause,
but now I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I would rather say I'm ready to slay.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, I'm glad you said play. I'm glad you should play.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But my god, Emily's is so bad.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh, I need to know if Emily had anything to
do with hers.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I mean, of course we always had like everybody always
has the option of like not reading one.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but I think that would have been one of
the ones I chose not to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Read exactly exactly now.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And then they'll go, it's a bravo ask, and you're like, still, no.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's still a hard pass.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, first of all, let me, I'm want to ask
you a question, how did the read? Because I haven't
listened to it. We got into New York City at midnight,
our flame, our plane was a little bit delayed, and
then we by the time we got into our hotel
room is like two in the morning and all that
and then I couldn't sleep. I think my energy for
the show and everything was tightened, and then to an
(06:12):
hour sleep. Then I got up, got glammed by Priscilla
and Julius, and then oh my gosh, I was gone
press all day long. Didn't get back to the room
until four. I had like an hour and a half
to just lay there, and then I had to go
right to the studio. So super super exhausted.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I bet well the recap I was.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have to be honest, I always get nervous when
I'm not doing it with you, Like there's that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Did somebody do their research?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are they going to know what's happening, And like I
and Cynthia is, she was so good. She showed like
a different like she came in fresh because she's never
watched O good and she was really good. And she
made points that I'm not sure I would have thought
of on my own. So I loved doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Any highlights of what she had said or the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The biggest thing that she said was that she felt
like Shannon was quite cold when it came to when
you started getting emotional. Yeah, And I guess I kind
of overlooked it because I'm like, oh, they're fine now.
So I watched it with like a little bit of
blinders on, right, and she was like no, Like there
was this moment where that was like the most awkward
(07:21):
hug in the world, and then that was like there
was things, which then brings me to watch What Happens
Live last night. When you saw Shannon say she got
fired in regards to why you guys stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, then that really clarifies what I had been saying. Yeah,
so you know, it's it is what it is and
it's not whatever I You're like.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't want to get into it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't want to get into it. I don't want
to I don't want to go backwards. But like I said,
we disagreed to disagree. Yeah, right there. But so that
that same conversation, something really interested happened. That's when Emily
drank out of a dog bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh yeah, we talked about.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That and I rest in Peaces. I think his names Fisker.
Her dog just passed away.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh my gosh. Well, I was going to say it
wasn't even her dog's bull. It was Archie's Archie's ball.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Archie's a big boy and he's always like he's licking
that butthole and he's.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
All the things. Something I agreed with on the pole,
the Ryan not hot.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, and then Andy goes something like when he's like, oh,
I think this thing's broken, and then he's like, oh no,
here it goes. He goes, oh, this ain't good, and.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Then he just quickly had it turn off.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Turn off, and then he's like, well, I think it's
about his body.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Then also talking about like as we they didn't actually
ask this part on Watch What Happens Live, but seeing
all the women almost seem scared of you coming back
or saying that you talk behind people's back.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
How did that make you feel watching it?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think that one thing that bothered me is Gina's
opening line when I was on the motorcycle, where she's
like Tamra talks about her friends, which is so far
from the truth. Like, I'll tell you whatever I have
to say right to your face. I don't do it
behind your back.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah no, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Also on page six, you said you on your in
an interview that Heather did something shitty to you.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
How long do we have to wait before we find
out what she did?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
All the way to the n oh hell yeah, yeah,
comes right after our makeup and there's ever a problem,
let's talk about it, and then yeah, okay, it's insanity,
all right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So that makes me a little bit. How does it
feel actually being back on TV now that you watched
yourself you were on watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I have been on a total high. I've been so
busy leading up to it that I just have haven't
even thought about it. And it's been so long since
we actually stopped filming, so it just kind of disappeared
out of my mind, and even up until the time
I got here in the press, and all that I
just didn't even think about until I was actually in
it last night, and I knew that was going to happen.
(10:15):
It's just like when I finally got there, I'm like,
oh my god, this is really happening. Yeah, I mean
it was great. And then all the people reaching out
to me, and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was going to say, anybody that you didn't expect,
Not that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I didn't expect, but what I really appreciated was Doug Ross,
who used to be owner of The Evolution, and it
was really sweet because you know, we all miss him.
Everybody that's worked with Doug over I mean decades. He's
the best. So that was really nice. You know, Charae
I got the surprise of my life and Charat was
at Water Supper. I didn't know she was there. You know,
(10:49):
I love Charay and we talk and she actually promoted
the show and she's so kind to me. And so
I walked out there to go to the bathroom and
they were pre taping and they had just come out
and it was Charay and I heard poor she was able.
I didn't see her. I think she left by the
time I came out, and so talk to her, got
to do some good pictures and tiktoks and gonna go
(11:10):
to dinner with her tonight. So that was exciting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm okay, I very rarely get fomo, but at this
moment I.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Have a little fomo. Oh you doubt the dinner was Chara.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh look flying out. You can be here, you can
be here in time.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I have I have so many more questions after this
last episode. Okay, but high and low moment from the
actual episode.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You can't say seeing Chara.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
High and low moment from the episode or from well
either way, from watch What Happens Live or the episode
fan question. I think the high of the episode was
seeing my mom on the show and joking around with Eddie.
It's I mean, that's how it is all the time
between the two of them.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So why you're on your highs Eddie seems not that
I saw much before because I didn't watch as much before.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But he seems so comfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, yes, is he liking it now? He is liking
it now, and he you know, he likes the cast better.
And when you have a really nasty cast and they
go after your business and all that stuff, he don't
want a part of it. You don't want a part
of it. So now you know it's it's a cast
that you know has morals and feelings, and yeah, we argue,
but we don't go like ugly ugly.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, like there's a there's a point. And then what
was what was your low moment other than the Shannon stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I think the low moment is the air quality in
New York right now. It was like crazy, it was scary, spooky.
When we landed, I had gotten a message saying there's
a wildfire in Canada. And even though it's I don't know,
eight hours away or something like that, it was just
brushing through the city. Got off the plane. You could
smell the smoke. Yesterday, it came out of press you
(12:55):
could barely see.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah. I mean, my sister's there too. I saw both
of you guys in masks.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
They handed out masks like you can't eat outside. They
don't want people outside. They actually the smoke is coming
into people's apartments. They're asking you to get like a
wet towel and put it in all the cracks near
your doors. It's really bad. People are going to the hospital.
It's the worst air quality. And I think they said
since the nineteen sixties Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's little kids too that are like cooped up in there.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, they've closed schools down, some of the Broadway shows
have been closed down, Yankee Stadium, all these outdoor places
and really want people to stay inside. Air Quality looks
a little bit better today, but not not perfect. Oh sure,
it's going to be a few days. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And so you leave tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We leave tomorrow morning early and we head out for
our ten year, ten year wedding anniversary trip. So we're
really excited about that, and then we'll be gone a week.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I love it. Okay. Then also on the episode, there
was a moment where I'm not gonna lie. I had
a little bit of fear.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was like, shit, TAM's gonna shade me and I'm
gonna get my feelings hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh I'm really I would have because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is what always happens, and this is why I
want to point out something about you. The majority of people,
even if they're your friends, go and watch what Happens
live and then when asked a question they're about their friend,
they're gonna be a little bit shady or I just.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Had people pleaser like whatever the viewers want to hear
is what they're going to tell them, is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, And I really thought for a moment, I'm like,
all right, just be prepared. She's going in, she's doing
her job. Don't take it personally.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And then you were like just nice, like so what happened?
I was like, oh my, I honestly was bracing my teddy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That makes me sadd because it just makes me feel
like you're so used to being shaded by people, even
your friends, Like that's just sad.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, I mean, I think it goes to show.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
They bring me up again on watch What Happens Live,
and it's because somebody he called me a nat.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, well, well well I did kind of shade you.
In the after show though, great.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
All right, we'll tell me what you said, because I
didn't I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And the after show Andy asked, is there any housewife
that has been really upset with something like that? And
to Teason and podsthing we had said, and I go,
the better question is like, who hasn't gotten mad at us?
And I go, Honestly, I don't really like to shade
the you know, the other housewives. We'd like to have
him on his guests. I go, but Teddy, on the
other hand, she likes a little shade.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That, you know what. I'm fine with that. I know,
you know, I know my position here.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But and he agreed, he did.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, what else did he say? Did he say anything?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
He also said that he really enjoyed our interview, which
I thought was really nice. I don't think he's done
an interview with housewife like that. He really appreciated that
we read it, took the time to read his book,
and he was just really he thought it was great.
I guess he did a lot of interviews promoting this
book where people didn't even read it, didn't even notice about.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I know, well, that shows we're you know what, we're
true journalists, tam You read one book in twenty years
and we we will.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Let me just tell you now, I've been walking the
halls yesterday of NBC at thirty Rock, and I can't
tell you how many people walk. Oh my god, Tamara,
first of all, happier back, but oh my god, to
teas in a pod is so amazing. And now when
I sit down to do these interviews, they talk to
me as if I'm a journalist. Now Tamra, what do
(16:31):
you what is your opinion on, you know, the reunion
for New Jersey and all this stuff, And I'm like that,
I'm got on that show. Why are we talking about that?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh? First to always a twat?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay. The next thing that happened was I went on
live right before I got on this podcast with you
to ask what questions people had, and I got some
mixed action coming in hot of course because some people,
of course they're like Tamra the goat, because she didn't
(17:03):
even hesitate when asked who the most overrated housewife is.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You didn't even like, you didn't even need to clear,
like you still were mid drinking. You're like forsa.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I know I wasn't mid drink. I remember going like this.
I think I even said it with my head turned
still drinking. I need. I think she's just on the
top of my mind right now because I watched the
reunion and some of the things that were said and
done at the reunion just got under my skin so bad,
you know, and it just I don't know. I hate
(17:34):
to I really do hate to shade anyone. And typically
I would have said me, you know whatever, right, I
don't care but I do feel like, you know, she's
highly rated and oh but so deserving.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Do you think she's gonna come for you even.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, no her, the bots that are gonna be bought
the box, they're gonna come for me.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How do I sugarcoat this way? I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, the bots, Yeah, they're coming from me. Hot
I'm sure. Okay, as long as they I'm sick. Bo
Diddley on me ugh bo needle bo needel loo needle.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, this why we're on the topic of Jersey before
we get into scan of all of it all.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just saw that Jacqueline Lareda claims that Delores on
these leaked text messages.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We didn't cover this the other day, and people are
now sending me all these things. They're saying that Jacqueline
is claiming that Dolores talks badly about Teresa when she's
not on camera.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
She stays silent on camera.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, this first of all, go back to this is
from twenty twenty one. What was the relationship like with
Delores and Teresa back then, because I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
They've always been close.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But here's the thing I can say firsthand, I Dolores
has always been somebody I've kept in touch with on
the Housewives, like even back from the beginning, like, and
she never once has.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Said anything negative about Teresa.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like I can't say that same. You know, I don't
know her that well, but anytime I've ever talked to her,
she's always been extremely pleasant. And we had her on
the podcast and I don't recall her talking. She doesn't
really talk badly about anybody, even people that she doesn't
really care for on the show. No, she can be,
but I feel like it's just not her personality.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, And I mean I've talked to her throughout this
season and she isn't a shit talker like that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
She just doesn't. No, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And so I don't believe it, and I especially don't
believe that she would tell it to Jacqueline.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do they even talk anymore?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't. I mean that I don't know obviously, not
if she's saying that.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, all right, but now we got to get into
scandalbal Okay, the scandal first and foremost, Did Lala tell
you anything off air?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The only thing that I do know is they're going
to start filming like in a couple of weeks, So
there's going to be no break. They don't know who's
returning yet. I'm gonna, you know, I predict the entire
cast is going to be returning, including Rachel. And I
love that they got into an argument over her name.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm gonna say, Tam, we may have to disagree now.
I'm going to go back to calling her Raquel. I
feel bad for her a little.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, her name's Rachel. She changed her name to Raquel.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
She's like, no, she didn't. It is a nick once
she explained it, it's not a nickname.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's two different names. It's like saying it's like, your
name's Theodore and they call you Teddy. That's a nickname.
My name is.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Teddy Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I went by Teddy Joe for all of my childhood,
and the second I got into like grade school, I
was like, it's.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Teddy, Like I don't want to be Teddy.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think I Once, she said, I thought it happened
when she like moved to la and I was like, oh,
for Peter's sake, but it didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It happened in the first grade. Have you decided that
there was and show that's right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You're right, Okay, I'll great I'll give.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, she said there's two Rachel's and I didn't. I
wanted it to be different. But here's okay, here's where
I have my issue.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
One.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I have lots of problems with Tom, Like I think
Tom goes above and beyond. Like when he said the
T shirt comment, it made me feel sick.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I know then I did reevaluate what I would have
been and singing I'm like.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I actually thought what you said was funny and so true.
There's so many times.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That like we are in a T shirt like and
then there's so many times that it's off. Yeah just raise it, yeah,
just lift it up.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Whatever you're lucky. If I take off my.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mile exactly, sometimes my underwear around my ankles, like who cares?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, if you're getting it in, what do you care?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Really, it doesn't matter how you get it in or
what you're wearing.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But in my opinion, saying something like.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That is almost well, it was body shaming, disrespectful. He's
already like he just admitted like, yeah, real hot, he
didn't want he didn't really want.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It, yeah, and like already calling her so I'm not
the way that they talk to one another.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Ariana and and Tom I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It all, that's all. They screamed back and forth.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I mean it was, it was I get it.
Those two have a lot to get through. But when
I actually started realizing what Raquela is talking about and
going through, I think she's not crying because she's like
disassociating from what she's done.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And if she's trying to keep her story straight, well.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, she's also panicked because if she her story, her
boyfriend's going to be furious at her. Right, And you
can tell she's now has a pattern of the men.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
She chooses.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Where they kind of control her. And I'm not saying
that she isn't also to blame. Of course she is,
but I thought that there was a level of it
taking it too far on the attacks.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I will tell you I got a little softer side
of Lalla about We had a conversation about Raquel color.
We did Color Rachel, and I said, you know, I
I worry about her mental health. And after watching that
sit down in her actually showing emotion and everything and
being just totally brutalized by the public, I said, I
(23:20):
feel bad for her. She goes I do too. I'm
starting to feel bad, I said, because there's something God
forbid where to happen to her. Yeah, that would be horrible, horrible,
and she's a human being.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But I'm a human being.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She's a human Tom, I give two shits.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Really.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean at first I felt bad for him after
last reunion, but after this one.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He No, That's what I'm saying, Like, Tom, you're your
own issue. Obviously, Raquel has some issues, and everybody attacking
her online that she didn't get emotional.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There's two types of people.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There's people like me who like I cannot hold it
in for a second, like it starts to come, tears
are going to come out.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I can't help myself. It's who I am.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But there's also people that are able to completely keep
a start, Like, for example, I've only seen Duri cry
one time, and I've seen her go through some really
gnarly stuff and you can even just don't cry.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, she get in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah she can hold it in and she I actually
asked her about it, and she said, I was kind
of taught from.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
A young age to hold it out like that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You don't cry, like through my dad or through my
family or whatever, like this was kind of what happened.
And so she she really doesn't, and I think there
are just some people like that, and I so that.
I also when you could finally see her with Jeremiah,
who used to work with me by the way, at
Uta was, Oh my god, I know Jeremiah, but uh,
(24:47):
you can tell she's like trying to find humor in
it because she's so distraught, like she doesn't even know
what to do, like what end is up?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Do you think after seeing that sit down, that last interview,
do you think that Tom and Raquel are no longer
together and that maybe she said, I can't do this,
I'm moving forward. I'm gonna have to come clean from
my own I have to protect myself because I'm lying
and I'm getting brought down even lower than I should be.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I mean, I don't know if they're together or not together.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I would assume if he wants to be back on
the show, he probably needs to stay with her because
there's really no connect Like people I feel like still
will want to hear from her in some capacity, and
I feel like at this point with he's really dug
himself a hole.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What were your thoughts when Rachel said she asked Tom
if they would be interested in a Threufle.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think if that would have been a conversation that
was had brier to them having sex behind her back,
I don't know that it would have been too off off.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The cuff, not because I mean, right yeah, I mean
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
However, the fact that Ario wasn't involved in it, and
something that made a key point to me was when
uh Raquel admitted that she had essentially an emotional affair
with Sandoval but never felt comfortable fully opening up to
arian It you start to see what's happening. So, yes,
(26:23):
they all hung out, but I think it was because
of that relationship that she and Tom had built. Yeah,
and so then it it just it's it's sick, and
then you start getting addicted to it, and it's all this,
it's all these things. But I did think the level
of attack they were doing at her, like you'll never
(26:43):
be forgiven your floor on your dirt, like, I don't know,
I don't have that kind of anger and right like,
and I know that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
She Ariana was clearly in her angry stage of grief
because the one time that she did break down and
cry and Tom's balling, I really felt for her, Like,
I mean, I've always felt for her and I feel
like this is such a horrible situation. But there was
so much name calling and screaming amongst everybody that it
(27:12):
was kind of like, oh God, just I want to
feel the emotion, like I want to hear this, like
how do you really feel? And not that I wanted
to see her cry, but that kind of really touched
my heart.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, no, you could see that, like it it's hurting her.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And that's the part that actually I think will help
people not make the same mistakes again.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The anger and the fighting and the screaming.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So much is like okay, And like, what was James
even doing other than attack like they've all, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It just was a lot for me.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
James is a lot period. How about the thoughts on
Raquel saying that she hung out with Tom's mom and
she knew.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean, I'm going to get heat for saying this,
and it doesn't none of what I'm saying is excusing
what I think that Tom did. I think it was
disgusting and absolutely inappropriate, but I think it shows the
lack of.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Relationship that Tom and ari on a truly still had.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, Like I think you can be in a relationship
and not really be in the relationship and the relationship
and I actually said this to Cynthia the other day.
I said, listen, in marriages and relationships, there are highs
and lows. There are times where I feel really connected
to Edwin and there's times I don't. That being said,
when you start to feel it loose en up like that,
I mean, I'm sure you have the same with Eddie,
(28:36):
then you're like, Okay, I have a choice right now.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I either make the effort.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
To make this better better yea, why I keep looking
at my phone and avoiding whatever it is that's going
on with us? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Can we switch over to watch What Happens Live for
one quick moment? Yeah, I'm like, Eddie's like, oh, Shannon's
being mad at you, and and Andy's like, oh, she's
gonna be mad. When I made the comment that I
did not see it coming that John was gonna dump,
was that bad? No?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean it wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It was just I think the word dump, well, break
up sounds better than dump.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I know, but like, I know, but you're not don't think.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm not an overthinker, and I don't sugar coat things,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I have you talked to Shannon since?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Why don't you text? I know, I don't know. I
have so many text messages.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But like just you can type in s H A
N N O N oh, thank you mom.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I love you, my friend. He did a great job tonight.
Oh yeah, yeah. And she went on to talk about
other stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But yeah, but nothing so she saw it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hope you're having a fun night.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, did VICKI text?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Was that bad? What I did?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
No? Not bad, but it just it just broke off,
I said, did VICKI text?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I thought? No? No, no, I thought you meant about
my comment? No, no, no no, because there was a
comment where they were.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Out about Brooks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh and I yeah, and then I just drank. I
didn't know what to say. I'm like, I don't want
to give this any life.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
No, I didn't think it was bad. I just meant,
did VICKI text you to congratulate you?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't
see it. Maybe she did, Maybe she did in a
group text. I don't know. I have so many texts
right now. Ah huh.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That this is what we call dodging. The question, folks,
Oh my gosh. All right, well, I know that you're
going to go enjoy your trip.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Is there? What else have we missed anything?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I think that is good. I do want to let
everybody not only am I back, but our happy place
teach the Seltzer's are back. So you go to Vina
website and order some because you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh I need some more too. Okay, all right, well
it tam.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I'm so happy for you, honestly, friend, I know that
I don't get muchy often, but I did text you
last night and I was just like, I'm so proud
of you.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You are, I know, but you are like you are
meant to do this, Like you're you light up the screen.
You look so beautiful and stunning, and you're funny, and
you're it comes off naturally to you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And I just wanted to say like, I'm so happy
for you, thank.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You, I appreciate, I love you. And I'm a little
concerned for next week's episode that oh no, that's when
the sit down with me and Shannon, and it's not pretty.
Not pretty, all.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Right, guys, Well, I guess you'll have to be tuning
in to that recap because is I'm sure we'll have
a lot to say and but we'll be back Monday
to talk all things Atlanta. H
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