December 20, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everyone, welcome back to Dirty Rush. This is the
Producer's edition.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We've got heavy on the mic, Emma and Shelby.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And today we're going to be talking about what we
wish we knew before we went into rush. So we're
going to be giving you all the stories all of
us went. All of us were in different sororities, at
different schools and had different Rush experiences. But we all
have a lot of advice to give you for when
you're going through rush.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Especially because some people are going through rush this semester. True,
which's be where.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I could do that?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I do feels in the snow?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I can remember, would you?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I would I.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Went to UCLA and the you know, the latest round.
It was probably fifty degrees out and I remember being
cold waiting outside. Yeah, but it was also in September
because we do first semester.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Do you guys all do first semester rush?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Mine's like before school starts? What is your guys?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Mine is after it's over the three day weekend.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Yeah, mine was always in August. It's insanely hot in Texas.
It's so hot.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Did you have to go to school early for how
they do thatt ut?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes, which I actually really liked.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
But I think it's really everyone has a different experience
doing it, like different ways, and people like it for
different reasons, you know, Like I loved it because like
you don't know anyone, so there's no one, like like
you're not rushing what your friends are rushing, Like You're
going whatever you really feel like as you're fit, which
I feel like is nice because like I feel like
if I was second semester, then I would just want
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to go the souarty my friends were and it wouldn't
be as much my choice.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm torn on this because I feel like it benefits
you know, I went to a huge state school, Like
I I went to UCLA, and I was from Chicago,
and I knew nobody at my school, and so I
feel like I didn't have a leg up, you know,
to know and coming in, and.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I felt like.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It gave me a really fair shot that it just
it started right when school started, and like I nobody
knew anyone and nobody like really had a leg up
just going into rush. But I also think USC, the
other school, like big school in LA, they did it
second semester and they were like, I feel like the
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girls and sororities at USC were like had so many
different friends across sororities because they did it second semester,
and so they were able to have like your you know,
your first semester friends, but then I'll end up in
different sororities.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Totally, that's cool since first semester all my friends are
dg except for like your dorm friends totally are across
different sororities. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it kind of
gave you friends immediately rushing first semester.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
True, so pros and cons like both.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Yeah, It's also interesting how at different schools. I feel
like some schools it's like all sorority girls are friends
with girls and different sororities, and that some schools it's
like you only hang out with the girls and your sorty,
which I've heard is a case that like you dub
like they like don't really but then you know, everyone
tells different things.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I remember hearing that once and I was like, that's
so interesting because in my school everyone was like meshed
with girls in different sororities. Yeah, yeah, so I wonder
if that has something to do with the first versus
second semester recruitment.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Probably m hm.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Anyways, we're here to share a couple of things that
we all wished we knew before going into rush and
something that I didn't know but to get into the
sorority I was at at CU Boulder was that you
did have to have a letter of reck.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You did, yes, because that you see, like they it
was just like those did.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Not matter at all.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You It didn't matter who wrote it. But if you
didn't have one, you weren't. Yeah, like you were passed
up on.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Really.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, so it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Could be like your your mom's best friend's cousin's daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, anyone that was in the sorority beforehand, at any point,
if you knew them well or not, if they wrote
you a letter of reck, then you made it past
the first round. If you didn't, then you didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I don't know if that's how it was at my school.
I do remember, like, like, I feel like I could
be wrong about this, but I feel like it was
more like if someone was in the sorority at your school,
it mattered more than like if it was just like
a random person from a different school that was in
your sowarty.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
To me, that's how I perceived it.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But I could be wrong there, but I feel like
it would mostly matter if it was like an older
girl who had graduated before, then it means more.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely helps if you knew someone in
the direct sorority or someone that was of that affiliate sorority.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But I think just like maybe my sorority had older rules.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, so we had letters of wreck didn't mean anything,
but we had a different thing that I'm really wondering
if I feel like nobody knows about this when you're
going through rush, but then you see it on the
other side and it's kind of wild. I don't know
if you guys have this, but and I'm kind of
giving a lot away here, but during work week, we
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would have a presentation of I don't even know if
I'm supposed to say this, but here goes. During work week,
we would have a presentation that girls already in our
sorority would be put up a slide show of people
from their hometown that knew that they were coming through
rush and that they really wanted to vouch for and
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it would be like a picture of them from their
Instagram and fun facts and this is why she would
be great in our sorority, and these are her amazing traits,
and or on the other end, it would be like
this girl screwed up dating my brother and cheating on
him and we cannot let her in. I know she's
coming in. So I think that's where knowing someone really
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plays a part, because they can really vouch for you.
And then you can do something called hometown voting, where
you can give them either the highest rating or the
lowest rating, but you couldn't give anything in between if
you were in a hometown vote someone.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Do you guys think it's important to know someone in
the sorority, Like, do you think you really need to
in order to get brought back?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, my sorority's rules for voting was it's automatically no,
So essentially you were supposed to be dishing out no's
unless the person wowed you and you thought they deserved to.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Oh, it was all or nothing, all.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Or nothing, and that's why it was helpful to know
someone in a sorority so that they could tell everyone.
But then again it brings back the rule of you
can't vote for someone unless you bump them, So then
you had to keep making sure that people were getting
bumped so they could get the appropriate votes.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Wow, because ours was what were your So that was
your reading scale? Ours was between I think one in
five or and the highest one you either four or
five meant okay this or I want her to be
my little like not just I want her to be
in our sorority. I want her to be my little
my best friend. Three was like I want her to
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be in the sorority, and then one was no two
was it was very important, like what each level meant?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Did you guys do a lot of recruiting?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
On the other side, like, did you do a lot
of years of like recruiting in your sorority? Because you
know how some people like don't really want to do
it and only do it one year when they're forced too.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well one of them, I was abroads, but I did too.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Two of them.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, you mean in terms of like the actual recruiting process.
We were involved all four years. Wow, Like fully involved
had to be which was nice. But then again, like honestly,
whoever was on standards that year took full control over
who was on the hometown's list, who was on the
captain's list.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
What is captain's captain's list?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Did you guys not have that?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No, I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Your your captain's list is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So so that means that you were perfect on paper,
meaning that you had the grades, you had the letters
of rex.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Wait, sorry, this means you're talking captain's list. Are P
and ms or.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
P and ms on the captain's list that are perfect
on paper with grades? Because we had to have a
certain GPA, and it was a high gpa really that
a lot of the younger girls I knew couldn't get
in from high school because of their gpa?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Wow, can you name what the GPA was?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Did it change every year?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it was a three four.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I feel like it would change based on like like
at my school, because the GPA would go of how
hard it was to get in, so I feel like
it would go up.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, it went up continuously, and I do know that.
Like one of the coolest girls in our sorority when
I was a freshman, she got suspended for a semester
because her grades dropped below and she was the coolest
eight girl of my sorority, like everyone's favorite, and she
got suspended because of her grades.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So this is where I think there's a misconception about
sororities because our sorty too, like had the best GPA
on the row and I would I would argue that
we were some of the best girls and just really cool,
awesome people and we always had the highest GP in
the row and it was usually a three seven, five
or three eight.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And I feel like people think that soorty girls are dumb.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, not true, Not true.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You're actually talking to a girl who was on the
scholars list.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, talking to a scholar.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, you're talking to a scholar not only for the.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Semester maybe, yeah, pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think I was on the low end of the GPA.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think I was the one on the brisk Well
you went to what you see?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Yeah, so missy over here. Okay, I have another subject
to bring up. What about This isn't necessarily something I
didn't know, but what do you guys, like, what went
on in your head about like your social media? Because
I feel like we're told so many things going into recruitment,
like not being able to follow girls in the sworty
or you should be following girls in the sworty or
what you have posted, like taking down anything of swimsuits alcohol, Like,
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did you guys really clean up your social media before
you went through recruitment.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I didn't feel the need to clean mine up. I
didn't post anything with alcohol in beforehand, because that's kind
of inappropriate in my eyes. Anyways, being a high schooler, Yeah,
in terms of like bathing suit stuff, I would post them,
but it wasn't anything too crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, following like people preference.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If I was the older girl being followed by younger girls,
I would just see that as like they're just trying
to get a gauge on what's going on, and I
would just play it cooler. On the other end of
just like not following people. You can follow the sorority instagrams,
but like you don't need to heavily stock everyone like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
There's no for my sorority.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
There was no offline chat of like we were not
allowed to talk to p and ms and we weren't
allowed to talk to active members before or during the
recruitment process. And so I don't think that there was
a point on our end to kind of like involve
social media with that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I will say that I do think because I mean,
especially just going to a really big school, we were
talking to so many girls, and I do think that
social media matters. I think what your Instagram and that
it's like a representation of you, like if you like
to sing and you have a video on there, I
think that's great.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But if it's just like partying, and I think your
Instagram and your profile actually does matter because that's what
not necessarily like that girls are scoping you out beforehand.
I think that at least that wasn't the case with us.
But I think that when you're trying to remember, girl,
oh did I like her?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Did I not?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
What was our conversation about? And then you go in
their Instagram, there's nothing. I mean, I guess you're in private.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Some people are because some people are told that they
should go on private beforehand, because then if a girl
follows you, that means something. If not, they can stock
you anytime. I don't remember what I did. But then
there's also so many girls I remember that I loved
and they followed me even though they're not allowed to
and then I was like, oh my goodness, they're going
to go my sworty. And then they didn't, and so
I'm like, why do you follow me? We have like
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a silent day, it's like the day before. So our
last day of recruitment, I want to say, is Friday.
Then Saturday is like no contact, like nothing, like really strict,
like basically like stay in your house like okay, and
I know, partying, no texting anyone, even if it's like
your friend, it's really strict. And then Sunday's mid day.
So I remember on that no contact day, like the
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one day it's really strict on texting or following or anything.
I had girls following me and they didn't even go
my sworty. So I'm like, that's so confusing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to say that that whole like
no contact, no following thing. Take that seriously. Because I
had a great sorority and then I did I contacted
someone because I was so torn between what I was
going to pres and I didn't end up getting that sorority.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm so happy I ended up in the authorty that I did.
But I think that and then no party, especially if
it's the first week of week of school, guys like relax,
And I mean I did, Like, I partied the first.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Week before you before recruitment, and.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I went to like because the only people I knew
at my school were on the soccer team and they
invited me to the soccer party.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to that.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And I should not.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Have gone to that.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
I was the biggest follower. It wasn't crazy. I thought
I was going to get dropped for like the smallest things.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And then it posted a TikTok.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
My roommate posted a TikTok about us going out and
it went viral.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh my god, it got like three million views.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I could have never I would have never let her
post it. I would have never gone.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Everyone would pop in like you're gonna have to post
the TikTok.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Should we add it onto the dirty Rush feed?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Wait, it's actually so good.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's a video of me and my tiny dorm room
doing my blowout, and we all know I love my blowouts.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I also, oh yeah, and she took a video of
me doing my hair into the home Depot song.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
You know the song.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's like yeah, boom.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And it's me doing my hair and it went crazy
viral and then everyone during.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Rush was like, wait, are you the TikTok care girl?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
See.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
And this is a reason though, that I love that
my school does it before school starts. It'd be hard
when school starts, you're so excited about everything.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Well, she literally put on the video my roommate getting
ready for a night out in Westwood the night before Rush.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh my god, No, to your point, it was stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The girls that are rushing you, the older girls have
been through Rush themselves, and so they're going to treat
you the way that they were rushed, if not worse.
Girls in authoritative positions are going to keep those positions.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And if they see you out, like.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I was strict, there's.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Like if you see a younger girl partying, it's like,
get your bleep together, Like you're not supposed to party.
We're not partying because we're training how to rush you,
and so you better not be party.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I agree, I'm so.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Trure, Like no one wants to be like dry that way,
but everyone is and then yeah they see younger people
get yeah, you're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Another thing that I realized after rushing was that you're
not necessarily dropped from a sorority based on that they
didn't like you. A lot of it has to do
with they know that you're going to go another house
and they're giving the spot to someone else. You could
think that like, you had an amazing conversation with someone,
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but they just know that you're not going to choose
this sorority in the end, and so they're going to
go with another girl that they would rather have.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay, well, here's what I'm going to say is I
think this is super specific to the school because we
weren't able to like handpick who. It's all about scores
that everyone gave, so we weren't like, oh, they're probably
going to go them. I'm going to give them a
lower score. You just gave them a score based off
of their you know, your experience with them, and then
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it was all about the cumulative score that they had
and if they chose you again.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
It's such an interesting point though, because what you brought up, Emma,
because like then, what we were talking about earlier with
if knowing someone helps, then it also can not help
you because if you're best friends with a girl in
one swarty and you're trying to get into another but
they know that's your best friend's sister, cousin, whatever, then
maybe they don't take you because they're like, we don't
have a shot with her. Even though a lot of
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girls are always open yeah to some girls want to
do something different than their best friend's sister would. So
like it's really an interesting conversation of does it help
you or hurt you? And I feel like it differs.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, Emma, for your school for a Boulder, was it
about cumulative score or someone But you're kind of talking
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about like you could pick and choose kind of who
was coming in when it came to that final round,
like we're going to give her a bit or not
versus us. It was just about who were the top
girls based off their score at the top of our list.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, I mean it was also the amount of people
that we were allowed to take back each day, and
so then it came down to they didn't these people
all got great scores, but we had so many great scores.
So then there was lots of conversations. We had a
lot of conversations with like our standards of the sorority
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and the recruitment chairs in terms of like who what
of these great girls do we get to pick? And
then you know, when it comes down to pref then
it's like you put all your best eggs in one
basket and then.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You don't even know if everyone's going to pick you.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I will say that my sorority for the longest time
had a ninety nine percent retention rate.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
That's awesome, pretty great.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You guys were preffing hard. Were people crying?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To be honest, like I would like to say, I
was a great You prefer people cry during our pref
We have one of the most insane prefs. I bawled
my eyes out my senior and junior year pref because
we make it very emotional.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Sisterhood to speak my senior year, I get too twins.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeay, Yeah, that was special.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I always sang during preth Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You're a little musical girl?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I like sing. I would sing.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You sing for usan's listening.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We sang, We sang, guys, We sang a cappella home.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You know, my Mumford and son yeah, let me come home.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You're so good.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Home is whenever I with you.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh my god, are you serious right now?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You're oh my god.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
One of many talents. Okay, you have many talents.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Blowouts included.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You have whatever storty girls are smart.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Art can do everything.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, wait, I have another tip on the Instagram thing. Okay,
you need to follow. This is something I think it
is important. You need to follow every sorority at your school.
Even if you don't care what some of the stories
are doing, you have to follow.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That was something I would love for.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm like, are they just following the top ones or
are they following everyone?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
To second this, do not talk s about other sororities
because other people are around you. Other people are they
will in.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
The rogans are smarties.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The rogams are also in sororities, and if they hear
girls talking about their sorority or other sororities, it gets reported.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
To panel and then you get dropped immediately.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And if you think it's just like you're disappointed or
you don't want to go see a house. At my school,
it was required that you visited every single house on
the first and every single house that brought you back.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
To show up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If you didn't show up for a round because you
were like, I'm not going to be this, and if
you if you were wait, we've had a conversation. We've
had an episode about this called throwing Around. If you
threw around or purposely did not show up to one,
you were dropped from recruitment entirely.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, no, that was.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, we're ours was the same. I don't know why
I reacted like that.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Curious. I was like, oh my gosh, that's so many.
But then I was like, wait, we all did that.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, I'm just trying to eat her kit cat.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I actually have like another topic. Okay, what I didn't
know how to gauge, like going into recruitment was like
how to really know what sority was your best fit?
And I'm curious what you guys were looking for, Like,
were you like hoping to connect with one girl specifically,
because I think I've definitely heard that a lot of
people will connect really well with an older girl and
then they go that sorority because of it, they have
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an insane bond and then they're a freshmen and the
older girls a senior. And it's like I didn't like,
like connect with the girls like that in my own PC,
but I connected with the senior that's now graduating. So
I think it's really hard to know, like exactly how
to know what's your right fit. So I'm curious, like you,
how you guys knew.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So my sorority when we were going through recruitment, there
was a lot of talk in just have trust in
the process in terms of like if an older girl's
recruiting you and you don't think you're gonna get along
with the PC, perhaps or not even get along, but
just like you're not friendly with them, just trust that
the older girls are recruiting the younger girls that think
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we all have the same minds and have the same interests,
Like it's all one collective group of girls that kind
of have similar likes and dislikes and values for the
most part.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, I think that whichever you feel like aligns with
your values the most, and you can like I remember
I was at prep and I was there was one
sorority where I was like, these girls actually seem really
cool and they actually seem like they genuinely really like
each other, and the other one I was like, this
seems like a little bit of bs that I think
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they're all like these are just crocodile tears or whatever.
I just think, like, trust your gut on it. But
also I do think that if there are girls in
the sorority, if you feel like, you know, you're really
interested in one subject or interested in one area or whatever,
and you can see that kind of represented within this sorority,
I do think that's important. Like if if you know,
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you feel like the girls are pursuing their own things,
or they're all seem really smart or really academically inclined, like,
I think that's important too.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But I have another Oh well, to finish that off.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I have this one liner that my big told me
when she was pressing me, which then I passed on
to my little what I was pressing her, and it
was pick a house where you feel comfortable going number
two in.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It's not what I was a lot less cheesy than
I thought you were gonna say.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, like, if.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You can like picture like a house where you can
like sit on the toilet and poop and like people
are around you, pick that house.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And I was like, the last thing I was expecting
you to tell me is like pick a house, pick
a home, not ah, mine's a lot cheesier than that.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But at.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh, my best friend from high school pref to me,
and I remember she was like, I was torn. Even
though my best friend was in the house, I was
I was torn. And I remember she was like, you
need to like look around at the girls in line
and like the girls you're talking to before entering and
nextiting the house, and like, do you like see yourself
being in a PC with them? She's like, at the
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end of the day, this is what I brought up earlier.
You can talk to all these older girls and they
can be amazing, but it's gonna be the girls in
your PC that are your best friends. And I remember
her being like, you need to like look like look
around this room right now, like do you see yourself
being in a PC with the girls in this room?
And I remember that was a big game changer for me.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay, because I do think this is a really good point,
And this leads me to my next question, because it
is all about the PC.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I know, bridesmaids like you really.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
In the house with and I do think that like,
please fluctuate based off PC. The overall vibe tends to
be consistent, but like I do think it matters your PC.
And so here's my question to you guys, especially since
we all rushed, like right when we got to school
even before. If you made friends, you know, prior to
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rush or during rush, do you think it's a good
idea to go a sorority just because?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Not just because, but say you're.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Torn and you have more friends that you know or
girls that you know that you get along with going
one sorority, should you go that sorority?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well? I can't answer that because my roommate and my
best friend at the time best friend now not best
friend at the moment, because we just met each other,
we wouldn't tell each other which house is because we
really liked each other so much, and so we were
hoping that we would end up in the same sorority
based on our interests and based on the people that
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we want to surround ourselves with.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Did you and we did?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So that's and that's such a sign. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So I feel like, you know, if you make the
wrong decision and you go a sorority that none of
your friends are and who cares it happens to people?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You can still be their best friend.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, but also just go with your gut and like
you're gonna have a great time no matter what.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Sometimes people like like having their sorority be something kind
of separate than their friend group, and it's like where
they get involved in leadership and certain other aspects, and
it's kind of like, doesn't always have to be your
entire friend group and your sorority also because it's fun
to bring your friends as dates.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
My best friend from college was my freshman year roommate,
and we we went different stories. We actually me and
all my rooms prefed the same sorority, but we all
ended up in different ones.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Because what she did, the one that she like that
we all preffed and then I ended up and the
one that I was like supposed to end up in,
but we had all kind of agreed that we were.
So sometimes you know, fate takes over. Yeah, the sororities
system takes over and might separate you. But I think
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I do think, I don't know, especially for everyone going
into rush right now, you know, winter semester. I think
if you know a group of girls or already have
a group of girls that you're friends with, and you
are all I don't know interested in the same storty.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I don't think it's a.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Bad thing for you to go all go that same sorority.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, I don't either.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I honestly would give the advice of what Emma did,
and I would not tell each other.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I would want to do if I was going into
second semester rush, which I've never done before. But I
would want to not tell each other because I would
hope that we'd all end up in the same sworty.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, and kind of it works out.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
And there's still going to be your friends if they
go a different sworty, so you should never feel like
pressure to all go the same sworty. Yeah, they'll still
be your best friends. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The whole I think the whole truth of everything though,
is like nothing, None of it is that deep. It's like, yeah,
being in a sorority is really fun, but also and
getting involved as much as you want or whatever and
make the best friends you can, but also getting having
friends in different sororities or not in any sororities at all.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
It's also important too.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, I really do feel strongly that everyone ends up
where they're supposed to be like, yeah, and I know
that's easier for me to say, and probably you guys
as people who probably had a good rush experience. From
what you guys are saying, it sounds like, but it's
just like even when I feel like someone it's like
sad because I know my sworty is dropping someone that
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I really liked. It's like, I know they're going to
be happy where they're going next.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And they usually always are.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, So I do feel like it's like everything there's
a lot of want to put too much pressure on yourself,
like just because you think you want one sorority, Like
so many girls end up in a different sworty and
they're like, I can't even imagine what my life would
be like if I was in that sorty, Like because
I love my life right now and the girls I
met through my sorority that maybe you didn't want it first,
And I just do feel like everything happens for a
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reason in that process.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Also, I think my last parting piece of advice is
that if you if you end up on bid day
and you end up in the sorority that you didn't
prep or didn't necessarily want, slap on a smile on
your face, agreed, and be happy of it, because I
so remember.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I still remember the girls.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That showed up to our mid day and did not
seem excited, and like we're almost like shedding a tear
because they wanted to be in another house. And you never
forget that because that makes you feel so icky. And
I just just keep an open mind, don't get just
and if you end up in this sorority that you
don't want, there's a reason behind it. And and also
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it's really not that deep like you're gonna make friends anywhere.
Just just go in, especially if you stay open and
go in just with positivity.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, So for those rushing this January or February whenever
second specer rushes, go in with a big smount of
positive attitude and you're gonna kill it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, an end up where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, sisters for life. It's just for life. And that'll
do it for Dirty Rush. Bye bye,
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everyone, welcome back to Dirty Rush. This is the
Producer's edition.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We've got heavy on the mic, Emma and Shelby.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And today we're going to be talking about what we
wish we knew before we went into rush. So we're
going to be giving you all the stories all of
us went. All of us were in different sororities, at
different schools and had different Rush experiences. But we all
have a lot of advice to give you for when
you're going through rush.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Especially because some people are going through rush this semester. True,
which's be where.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I could do that?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I do feels in the snow?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I can remember, would you?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I would I.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Went to UCLA and the you know, the latest round.
It was probably fifty degrees out and I remember being
cold waiting outside. Yeah, but it was also in September
because we do first semester.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Do you guys all do first semester rush?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Mine's like before school starts? What is your guys?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Mine is after it's over the three day weekend.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Yeah, mine was always in August. It's insanely hot in Texas.
It's so hot.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Did you have to go to school early for how
they do thatt ut?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes, which I actually really liked.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
But I think it's really everyone has a different experience
doing it, like different ways, and people like it for
different reasons, you know, Like I loved it because like
you don't know anyone, so there's no one, like like
you're not rushing what your friends are rushing, Like You're
going whatever you really feel like as you're fit, which
I feel like is nice because like I feel like
if I was second semester, then I would just want
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to go the souarty my friends were and it wouldn't
be as much my choice.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm torn on this because I feel like it benefits
you know, I went to a huge state school, Like
I I went to UCLA, and I was from Chicago,
and I knew nobody at my school, and so I
feel like I didn't have a leg up, you know,
to know and coming in, and.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I felt like.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It gave me a really fair shot that it just
it started right when school started, and like I nobody
knew anyone and nobody like really had a leg up
just going into rush. But I also think USC, the
other school, like big school in LA, they did it
second semester and they were like, I feel like the
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girls and sororities at USC were like had so many
different friends across sororities because they did it second semester,
and so they were able to have like your you know,
your first semester friends, but then I'll end up in
different sororities.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Totally, that's cool since first semester all my friends are
dg except for like your dorm friends totally are across
different sororities. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it kind of
gave you friends immediately rushing first semester.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
True, so pros and cons like both.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Yeah, It's also interesting how at different schools. I feel
like some schools it's like all sorority girls are friends
with girls and different sororities, and that some schools it's
like you only hang out with the girls and your sorty,
which I've heard is a case that like you dub
like they like don't really but then you know, everyone
tells different things.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I remember hearing that once and I was like, that's
so interesting because in my school everyone was like meshed
with girls in different sororities. Yeah, yeah, so I wonder
if that has something to do with the first versus
second semester recruitment.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Probably m hm.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Anyways, we're here to share a couple of things that
we all wished we knew before going into rush and
something that I didn't know but to get into the
sorority I was at at CU Boulder was that you
did have to have a letter of reck.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You did, yes, because that you see, like they it
was just like those did.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Not matter at all.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You It didn't matter who wrote it. But if you
didn't have one, you weren't. Yeah, like you were passed
up on.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Really.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, so it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Could be like your your mom's best friend's cousin's daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, anyone that was in the sorority beforehand, at any point,
if you knew them well or not, if they wrote
you a letter of reck, then you made it past
the first round. If you didn't, then you didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I don't know if that's how it was at my school.
I do remember, like, like, I feel like I could
be wrong about this, but I feel like it was
more like if someone was in the sorority at your school,
it mattered more than like if it was just like
a random person from a different school that was in
your sowarty.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
To me, that's how I perceived it.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But I could be wrong there, but I feel like
it would mostly matter if it was like an older
girl who had graduated before, then it means more.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely helps if you knew someone in
the direct sorority or someone that was of that affiliate sorority.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But I think just like maybe my sorority had older rules.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, so we had letters of wreck didn't mean anything,
but we had a different thing that I'm really wondering
if I feel like nobody knows about this when you're
going through rush, but then you see it on the
other side and it's kind of wild. I don't know
if you guys have this, but and I'm kind of
giving a lot away here, but during work week, we
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would have a presentation of I don't even know if
I'm supposed to say this, but here goes. During work week,
we would have a presentation that girls already in our
sorority would be put up a slide show of people
from their hometown that knew that they were coming through
rush and that they really wanted to vouch for and
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it would be like a picture of them from their
Instagram and fun facts and this is why she would
be great in our sorority, and these are her amazing traits,
and or on the other end, it would be like
this girl screwed up dating my brother and cheating on
him and we cannot let her in. I know she's
coming in. So I think that's where knowing someone really
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plays a part, because they can really vouch for you.
And then you can do something called hometown voting, where
you can give them either the highest rating or the
lowest rating, but you couldn't give anything in between if
you were in a hometown vote someone.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Do you guys think it's important to know someone in
the sorority, Like, do you think you really need to
in order to get brought back?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, my sorority's rules for voting was it's automatically no,
So essentially you were supposed to be dishing out no's
unless the person wowed you and you thought they deserved to.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Oh, it was all or nothing, all.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Or nothing, and that's why it was helpful to know
someone in a sorority so that they could tell everyone.
But then again it brings back the rule of you
can't vote for someone unless you bump them, So then
you had to keep making sure that people were getting
bumped so they could get the appropriate votes.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Wow, because ours was what were your So that was
your reading scale? Ours was between I think one in
five or and the highest one you either four or
five meant okay this or I want her to be
my little like not just I want her to be
in our sorority. I want her to be my little
my best friend. Three was like I want her to
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be in the sorority, and then one was no two
was it was very important, like what each level meant?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Did you guys do a lot of recruiting?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
On the other side, like, did you do a lot
of years of like recruiting in your sorority? Because you
know how some people like don't really want to do
it and only do it one year when they're forced too.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well one of them, I was abroads, but I did too.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Two of them.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, you mean in terms of like the actual recruiting process.
We were involved all four years. Wow, Like fully involved
had to be which was nice. But then again, like honestly,
whoever was on standards that year took full control over
who was on the hometown's list, who was on the
captain's list.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
What is captain's captain's list?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Did you guys not have that?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
No, I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Your your captain's list is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So so that means that you were perfect on paper,
meaning that you had the grades, you had the letters
of rex.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Wait, sorry, this means you're talking captain's list. Are P
and ms or.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
P and ms on the captain's list that are perfect
on paper with grades? Because we had to have a
certain GPA, and it was a high gpa really that
a lot of the younger girls I knew couldn't get
in from high school because of their gpa?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Wow, can you name what the GPA was?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Did it change every year?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it was a three four.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I feel like it would change based on like like
at my school, because the GPA would go of how
hard it was to get in, so I feel like
it would go up.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, it went up continuously, and I do know that.
Like one of the coolest girls in our sorority when
I was a freshman, she got suspended for a semester
because her grades dropped below and she was the coolest
eight girl of my sorority, like everyone's favorite, and she
got suspended because of her grades.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So this is where I think there's a misconception about
sororities because our sorty too, like had the best GPA
on the row and I would I would argue that
we were some of the best girls and just really cool,
awesome people and we always had the highest GP in
the row and it was usually a three seven, five
or three eight.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And I feel like people think that soorty girls are dumb.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, not true, Not true.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You're actually talking to a girl who was on the
scholars list.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, talking to a scholar.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, you're talking to a scholar not only for the.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Semester maybe, yeah, pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think I was on the low end of the GPA.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think I was the one on the brisk Well
you went to what you see?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Yeah, so missy over here. Okay, I have another subject
to bring up. What about This isn't necessarily something I
didn't know, but what do you guys, like, what went
on in your head about like your social media? Because
I feel like we're told so many things going into recruitment,
like not being able to follow girls in the sworty
or you should be following girls in the sworty or
what you have posted, like taking down anything of swimsuits alcohol, Like,
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did you guys really clean up your social media before
you went through recruitment.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I didn't feel the need to clean mine up. I
didn't post anything with alcohol in beforehand, because that's kind
of inappropriate in my eyes. Anyways, being a high schooler, Yeah,
in terms of like bathing suit stuff, I would post them,
but it wasn't anything too crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, following like people preference.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If I was the older girl being followed by younger girls,
I would just see that as like they're just trying
to get a gauge on what's going on, and I
would just play it cooler. On the other end of
just like not following people. You can follow the sorority instagrams,
but like you don't need to heavily stock everyone like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
There's no for my sorority.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
There was no offline chat of like we were not
allowed to talk to p and ms and we weren't
allowed to talk to active members before or during the
recruitment process. And so I don't think that there was
a point on our end to kind of like involve
social media with that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I will say that I do think because I mean,
especially just going to a really big school, we were
talking to so many girls, and I do think that
social media matters. I think what your Instagram and that
it's like a representation of you, like if you like
to sing and you have a video on there, I
think that's great.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But if it's just like partying, and I think your
Instagram and your profile actually does matter because that's what
not necessarily like that girls are scoping you out beforehand.
I think that at least that wasn't the case with us.
But I think that when you're trying to remember, girl,
oh did I like her?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Did I not?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
What was our conversation about? And then you go in
their Instagram, there's nothing. I mean, I guess you're in private.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Some people are because some people are told that they
should go on private beforehand, because then if a girl
follows you, that means something. If not, they can stock
you anytime. I don't remember what I did. But then
there's also so many girls I remember that I loved
and they followed me even though they're not allowed to
and then I was like, oh my goodness, they're going
to go my sworty. And then they didn't, and so
I'm like, why do you follow me? We have like
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a silent day, it's like the day before. So our
last day of recruitment, I want to say, is Friday.
Then Saturday is like no contact, like nothing, like really strict,
like basically like stay in your house like okay, and
I know, partying, no texting anyone, even if it's like
your friend, it's really strict. And then Sunday's mid day.
So I remember on that no contact day, like the
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one day it's really strict on texting or following or anything.
I had girls following me and they didn't even go
my sworty. So I'm like, that's so confusing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to say that that whole like
no contact, no following thing. Take that seriously. Because I
had a great sorority and then I did I contacted
someone because I was so torn between what I was
going to pres and I didn't end up getting that sorority.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm so happy I ended up in the authorty that I did.
But I think that and then no party, especially if
it's the first week of week of school, guys like relax,
And I mean I did, Like, I partied the first.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Week before you before recruitment, and.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I went to like because the only people I knew
at my school were on the soccer team and they
invited me to the soccer party.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to that.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And I should not.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Have gone to that.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
I was the biggest follower. It wasn't crazy. I thought
I was going to get dropped for like the smallest things.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And then it posted a TikTok.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
My roommate posted a TikTok about us going out and
it went viral.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh my god, it got like three million views.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I could have never I would have never let her
post it. I would have never gone.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Everyone would pop in like you're gonna have to post
the TikTok.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Should we add it onto the dirty Rush feed?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Wait, it's actually so good.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's a video of me and my tiny dorm room
doing my blowout, and we all know I love my blowouts.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I also, oh yeah, and she took a video of
me doing my hair into the home Depot song.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
You know the song.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's like yeah, boom.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And it's me doing my hair and it went crazy
viral and then everyone during.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Rush was like, wait, are you the TikTok care girl?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
See.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
And this is a reason though, that I love that
my school does it before school starts. It'd be hard
when school starts, you're so excited about everything.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Well, she literally put on the video my roommate getting
ready for a night out in Westwood the night before Rush.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh my god, No, to your point, it was stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The girls that are rushing you, the older girls have
been through Rush themselves, and so they're going to treat
you the way that they were rushed, if not worse.
Girls in authoritative positions are going to keep those positions.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And if they see you out, like.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I was strict, there's.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Like if you see a younger girl partying, it's like,
get your bleep together, Like you're not supposed to party.
We're not partying because we're training how to rush you,
and so you better not be party.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I agree, I'm so.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Trure, Like no one wants to be like dry that way,
but everyone is and then yeah they see younger people
get yeah, you're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Another thing that I realized after rushing was that you're
not necessarily dropped from a sorority based on that they
didn't like you. A lot of it has to do
with they know that you're going to go another house
and they're giving the spot to someone else. You could
think that like, you had an amazing conversation with someone,
(15:59):
but they just know that you're not going to choose
this sorority in the end, and so they're going to
go with another girl that they would rather have.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay, well, here's what I'm going to say is I
think this is super specific to the school because we
weren't able to like handpick who. It's all about scores
that everyone gave, so we weren't like, oh, they're probably
going to go them. I'm going to give them a
lower score. You just gave them a score based off
of their you know, your experience with them, and then
(16:28):
it was all about the cumulative score that they had
and if they chose you again.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
It's such an interesting point though, because what you brought up, Emma,
because like then, what we were talking about earlier with
if knowing someone helps, then it also can not help
you because if you're best friends with a girl in
one swarty and you're trying to get into another but
they know that's your best friend's sister, cousin, whatever, then
maybe they don't take you because they're like, we don't
have a shot with her. Even though a lot of
(16:54):
girls are always open yeah to some girls want to
do something different than their best friend's sister would. So
like it's really an interesting conversation of does it help
you or hurt you? And I feel like it differs.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, Emma, for your school for a Boulder, was it
about cumulative score or someone But you're kind of talking
(17:27):
about like you could pick and choose kind of who
was coming in when it came to that final round,
like we're going to give her a bit or not
versus us. It was just about who were the top
girls based off their score at the top of our list.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, I mean it was also the amount of people
that we were allowed to take back each day, and
so then it came down to they didn't these people
all got great scores, but we had so many great scores.
So then there was lots of conversations. We had a
lot of conversations with like our standards of the sorority
(18:04):
and the recruitment chairs in terms of like who what
of these great girls do we get to pick? And
then you know, when it comes down to pref then
it's like you put all your best eggs in one
basket and then.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You don't even know if everyone's going to pick you.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I will say that my sorority for the longest time
had a ninety nine percent retention rate.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
That's awesome, pretty great.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You guys were preffing hard. Were people crying?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To be honest, like I would like to say, I
was a great You prefer people cry during our pref
We have one of the most insane prefs. I bawled
my eyes out my senior and junior year pref because
we make it very emotional.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Sisterhood to speak my senior year, I get too twins.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeay, Yeah, that was special.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I always sang during preth Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You're a little musical girl?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I like sing. I would sing.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You sing for usan's listening.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We sang, We sang, guys, We sang a cappella home.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You know, my Mumford and son yeah, let me come home.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You're so good.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Home is whenever I with you.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh my god, are you serious right now?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You're oh my god.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
One of many talents. Okay, you have many talents.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Blowouts included.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You have whatever storty girls are smart.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Art can do everything.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, wait, I have another tip on the Instagram thing. Okay,
you need to follow. This is something I think it
is important. You need to follow every sorority at your school.
Even if you don't care what some of the stories
are doing, you have to follow.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That was something I would love for.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm like, are they just following the top ones or
are they following everyone?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
To second this, do not talk s about other sororities
because other people are around you. Other people are they
will in.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
The rogans are smarties.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The rogams are also in sororities, and if they hear
girls talking about their sorority or other sororities, it gets reported.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
To panel and then you get dropped immediately.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And if you think it's just like you're disappointed or
you don't want to go see a house. At my school,
it was required that you visited every single house on
the first and every single house that brought you back.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
To show up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If you didn't show up for a round because you
were like, I'm not going to be this, and if
you if you were wait, we've had a conversation. We've
had an episode about this called throwing Around. If you
threw around or purposely did not show up to one,
you were dropped from recruitment entirely.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, no, that was.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, we're ours was the same. I don't know why
I reacted like that.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Curious. I was like, oh my gosh, that's so many.
But then I was like, wait, we all did that.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, I'm just trying to eat her kit cat.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I actually have like another topic. Okay, what I didn't
know how to gauge, like going into recruitment was like
how to really know what sority was your best fit?
And I'm curious what you guys were looking for, Like,
were you like hoping to connect with one girl specifically,
because I think I've definitely heard that a lot of
people will connect really well with an older girl and
then they go that sorority because of it, they have
(21:32):
an insane bond and then they're a freshmen and the
older girls a senior. And it's like I didn't like,
like connect with the girls like that in my own PC,
but I connected with the senior that's now graduating. So
I think it's really hard to know, like exactly how
to know what's your right fit. So I'm curious, like you,
how you guys knew.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So my sorority when we were going through recruitment, there
was a lot of talk in just have trust in
the process in terms of like if an older girl's
recruiting you and you don't think you're gonna get along
with the PC, perhaps or not even get along, but
just like you're not friendly with them, just trust that
the older girls are recruiting the younger girls that think
(22:12):
we all have the same minds and have the same interests,
Like it's all one collective group of girls that kind
of have similar likes and dislikes and values for the
most part.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, I think that whichever you feel like aligns with
your values the most, and you can like I remember
I was at prep and I was there was one
sorority where I was like, these girls actually seem really
cool and they actually seem like they genuinely really like
each other, and the other one I was like, this
seems like a little bit of bs that I think
(22:46):
they're all like these are just crocodile tears or whatever.
I just think, like, trust your gut on it. But
also I do think that if there are girls in
the sorority, if you feel like, you know, you're really
interested in one subject or interested in one area or whatever,
and you can see that kind of represented within this sorority,
I do think that's important. Like if if you know,
(23:09):
you feel like the girls are pursuing their own things,
or they're all seem really smart or really academically inclined, like,
I think that's important too.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But I have another Oh well, to finish that off.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I have this one liner that my big told me
when she was pressing me, which then I passed on
to my little what I was pressing her, and it
was pick a house where you feel comfortable going number
two in.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It's not what I was a lot less cheesy than
I thought you were gonna say.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, like, if.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You can like picture like a house where you can
like sit on the toilet and poop and like people
are around you, pick that house.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And I was like, the last thing I was expecting
you to tell me is like pick a house, pick
a home, not ah, mine's a lot cheesier than that.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But at.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh, my best friend from high school pref to me,
and I remember she was like, I was torn. Even
though my best friend was in the house, I was
I was torn. And I remember she was like, you
need to like look around at the girls in line
and like the girls you're talking to before entering and
nextiting the house, and like, do you like see yourself
being in a PC with them? She's like, at the
(24:29):
end of the day, this is what I brought up earlier.
You can talk to all these older girls and they
can be amazing, but it's gonna be the girls in
your PC that are your best friends. And I remember
her being like, you need to like look like look
around this room right now, like do you see yourself
being in a PC with the girls in this room?
And I remember that was a big game changer for me.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay, because I do think this is a really good point,
And this leads me to my next question, because it
is all about the PC.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I know, bridesmaids like you really.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
In the house with and I do think that like,
please fluctuate based off PC. The overall vibe tends to
be consistent, but like I do think it matters your PC.
And so here's my question to you guys, especially since
we all rushed, like right when we got to school
even before. If you made friends, you know, prior to
(25:18):
rush or during rush, do you think it's a good
idea to go a sorority just because?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Not just because, but say you're.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Torn and you have more friends that you know or
girls that you know that you get along with going
one sorority, should you go that sorority?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well? I can't answer that because my roommate and my
best friend at the time best friend now not best
friend at the moment, because we just met each other,
we wouldn't tell each other which house is because we
really liked each other so much, and so we were
hoping that we would end up in the same sorority
based on our interests and based on the people that
(25:57):
we want to surround ourselves with.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Did you and we did?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So that's and that's such a sign. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So I feel like, you know, if you make the
wrong decision and you go a sorority that none of
your friends are and who cares it happens to people?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You can still be their best friend.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, but also just go with your gut and like
you're gonna have a great time no matter what.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Sometimes people like like having their sorority be something kind
of separate than their friend group, and it's like where
they get involved in leadership and certain other aspects, and
it's kind of like, doesn't always have to be your
entire friend group and your sorority also because it's fun
to bring your friends as dates.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
My best friend from college was my freshman year roommate,
and we we went different stories. We actually me and
all my rooms prefed the same sorority, but we all
ended up in different ones.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Because what she did, the one that she like that
we all preffed and then I ended up and the
one that I was like supposed to end up in,
but we had all kind of agreed that we were.
So sometimes you know, fate takes over. Yeah, the sororities
system takes over and might separate you. But I think
(27:10):
I do think, I don't know, especially for everyone going
into rush right now, you know, winter semester. I think
if you know a group of girls or already have
a group of girls that you're friends with, and you
are all I don't know interested in the same storty.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I don't think it's a.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Bad thing for you to go all go that same sorority.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, I don't either.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I honestly would give the advice of what Emma did,
and I would not tell each other.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I would want to do if I was going into
second semester rush, which I've never done before. But I
would want to not tell each other because I would
hope that we'd all end up in the same sworty.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, and kind of it works out.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
And there's still going to be your friends if they
go a different sworty, so you should never feel like
pressure to all go the same sworty. Yeah, they'll still
be your best friends. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The whole I think the whole truth of everything though,
is like nothing, None of it is that deep. It's like, yeah,
being in a sorority is really fun, but also and
getting involved as much as you want or whatever and
make the best friends you can, but also getting having
friends in different sororities or not in any sororities at all.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
It's also important too.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, I really do feel strongly that everyone ends up
where they're supposed to be like, yeah, and I know
that's easier for me to say, and probably you guys
as people who probably had a good rush experience. From
what you guys are saying, it sounds like, but it's
just like even when I feel like someone it's like
sad because I know my sworty is dropping someone that
(28:43):
I really liked. It's like, I know they're going to
be happy where they're going next.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And they usually always are.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, So I do feel like it's like everything there's
a lot of want to put too much pressure on yourself,
like just because you think you want one sorority, Like
so many girls end up in a different sworty and
they're like, I can't even imagine what my life would
be like if I was in that sorty, Like because
I love my life right now and the girls I
met through my sorority that maybe you didn't want it first,
And I just do feel like everything happens for a
(29:09):
reason in that process.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Also, I think my last parting piece of advice is
that if you if you end up on bid day
and you end up in the sorority that you didn't
prep or didn't necessarily want, slap on a smile on
your face, agreed, and be happy of it, because I
so remember.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I still remember the girls.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That showed up to our mid day and did not
seem excited, and like we're almost like shedding a tear
because they wanted to be in another house. And you never
forget that because that makes you feel so icky. And
I just just keep an open mind, don't get just
and if you end up in this sorority that you
don't want, there's a reason behind it. And and also
(29:52):
it's really not that deep like you're gonna make friends anywhere.
Just just go in, especially if you stay open and
go in just with positivity.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, So for those rushing this January or February whenever
second specer rushes, go in with a big smount of
positive attitude and you're gonna kill it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, an end up where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, sisters for life. It's just for life. And that'll
do it for Dirty Rush. Bye bye,
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