December 24, 2025 • 43 mins
Tamra and Jana are back to recap the season finale and reunion of Mormon Wives!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Hey guys, welcome back another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod. Today, I have a get and the One
the Only. Jenna, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Girl? You just feel it?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I just feel you know, you know? Tis the
season feeling just a bit spent, but it was. I'm
a room mom for the first and only time. I've
realized I'm not cussing. You're done, one and done. Wanted
to do it, okay and done, all right, but I
know like now that I can't. You know, like some
moms are just I see these moms and I'm like, oh,
(00:42):
You're just made for this.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's not me. I can't do it. Well, Jenna. I
tried to be a Brownie leader one year. One year.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was a very long time ago. Of course, my
kids are grown now. It was a one and done. Yeah, yeah,
you I could see you being.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Like a Brownie girl, scout room mom. You just listen.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'll say where I excelled was I was in charge
of doing the games. I'm a very competitive person, so
when we were playing the games, I'm like, all right,
get your toe back by the line, like, you know,
I was like a good I was a good wrath.
I kept the energy. I kept them having a lot
of fun. But the whole, the process of it all,
and that part, I'm just like, I I don't have
(01:24):
the capacity.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
How old now in this time? How old were these kids? Ten? Oh? Okay,
that's when they're really opinionated. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And it's hard for me too, because you know, some
of the it's like I can only discipline my.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Child, you know what I mean, So I have to
be like, okay, back back.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Back, you know, like that's wonderful, you know, and stuff. Yeah,
like I can't get excelled from being a room parent.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But oh that's gnat. So are you done Christmas shopping?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We? Yes, I'm done. I actually just put my last
little order in right now before we got on. So
I I'm a big Do you ever heard that Lelo fragrance?
I love giving that as a gift. It's one of
my favorite fragrances.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm gonna have to check that out.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah so good, Yeah, get some check really good. I
use the scent.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Another thirteen I didn't even know about till my husband,
like he knows all the good fragrances and stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But yeah, good check and they've got good candles. It's good.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's like Joe Malone. How they have the perfume.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yes, better, this is better. Yeah, So I like to
give those as gifts to the peeps.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Now, are you one of those that goes like absolutely
crazy with Christmas, like hires somebody to decorate the entire
house in the tree and.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I have either. I just like to just put
it where I put it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I know I don't like to outsource like that,
that's not we're all outsource.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I like to do it like as a family. Although
my daughter's the only one that's up for it these days.
Well she's only one left at home and my husband's.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like, you guys have fun at that? Yeah, fun.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But I like turning the Christmas music gone, decorating the tree, yeah,
having drinking hot chocolate coffee.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's fun. And I
do it really early. So I do it the first
week in November, just because it takes so much to
get everything down and out that I want to enjoy
it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right. I did that this year.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I went before a couple of days before Thanksgiving, so
it was up by Thanksgiving. I rarely do that, but
it's like only having it up a couple of weeks
and going through all that work.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, But I'm also the person that will take it
down the day after Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh me too. Yeah, I'm done, Like we're done. Yeah,
it's done. Get this stuff out of here.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Melissa Gorga from New Jersey sent me her sprinkle cookies
and her coffee cake.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Have you tried them? No? But I love her. I
love she.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She's so sweet. She's always been so kind and so
nice every time we've ever chatted, so.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She's really not I love her.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
She sends them to me all the time, and I
always try to post, you know, and promote any housewife
that sends me their products.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I will do that, but I can't stop eating it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's okay, it's all right. I'm having a holiday party today.
I decided to the bus stop moms are all coming
to my house. Later, I thought it was a really
good idea. A month ago, Well you're hanging out with
the bus stop moms, I am, and I was like,
got you you out for this? No? No, no, this
is where my manipulation comes in a bit though, I'm
going to I'll just call myself out because they're like, hey,
(04:32):
we should all get together and go out, and I
was like, I'll host because I don't want to go out.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I just don't like going out.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So I would rather everybody just come to the house
because I know that I'll say yes. And if we
had a reservation tonight the twelve thirty club downtown, I
would probably cancel me too, So I'm like, yeah, I
don't like to have it at my house.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I like over the weekend, I had things to do.
It's the holidays, and two three days in a row,
I had something to do, and I cannot get back
on track.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now I'm so tired. I can't, I know, like socializing,
doing all those things.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm like, no, no, I was supposed to go to
a party last night for Glad and I did not.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I did donate, but I did not. I could not go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I was just I'm so tired. So I know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And now it's the struggle too, where it's I don't
drink that much anymore, so and it's been it's been
a minute and so but I know now that they'll
probably bring some wine. I'll have one, and then I'm
gonna wake up feeling like shit in the morning.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right. That's I'm like, do I even do it? Or
do I just say no this time? Wow? TBD.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I went to dinner with Vicki and Katie and I
had two glasses of wine and the next day I
felt like shit.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I woke up in the middle of the night. I
was sweating, Yes, the sweat. The sweat. What is that? Yeah,
And I'm just like, it's just not worth it anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I know, you know, maybe what I'll do is I'll
just like make a mocktail but pretend like it's something like, oh,
I already poured it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But then I'm afraid if I say I'm not going
to drink anymore, it puts pressure on you to be like,
oh my god, what if I do want a gloss
of wine?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know, Like, I don't think you have to say
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's not like you're saying I'm either. I think a
lot of people now are that sober curious. I don't
think you have to, like, it's been months since I've
had a drink, and if I'm not saying I'm not
drinking I'm just choosing not to at the moment. Doesn't
mean that I'm never going to drink again. And I
know some people that like, my husband isn't going to drink,
that's fine, but I might have one maybe one time.
(06:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
See, my husband doesn't drink Either's I wouldn't say he's sober, Like, yeah,
it is, but he doesn't rarely drinks.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
He had hard issues quite a few years ago and it's.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
A trigger for aphib so he's like, why why would
I do that?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So it's very rare, rare, And if he does, he'll
have one drink. That's it, right. But just like the
Mormon wives, which we're getting.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Into exactly, and they don't drink at all, besides those.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Wigs or whatever they get that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Which I'm like, those are pop is so bad for you,
I know, I like, it's actually, what's worse?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Have you heard probably that?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have you heard before they've been mixed? No, not before
the show, but they're mixing it. I'm like, if you're
we're looking at ingredients, because I'm kind of a crunchy
person with that, I'm like, it's I can guarantee you.
I think the alcohol's probably better than the twigs.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It probably is so Jianna.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And you know what I did twenty something years never
drank soda ever.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We call it pop from Michigan. Okay, well I now
started drinking diet coke. No, no, because of my assistant.
No assistant so bad. So time out.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Go to Whole Foods and go get a za za.
We are going to blame you, Caden, because that is
so bad. And I get on Catherine, who does my
podcast with me, so bad maybe like once a month
if you want to treat yourself. Girls, but to go
to Whole Foods and get on a zvia and they've
got a cola that tastes great.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Okay, well I'm going to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'll give the bubbles. It'll still give you that coda
pop vibe. No, it's not the best.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So even my daughter, who would never I never allowed
my kids to have soda, she started taking di like, oh,
can you know what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Her skin started breaking out? Yeah, and because in inflammation.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, I'm not doing it anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
My mom? My mom?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Finally, because she'd always get on me that I used
to eat a whole box of cheese It's like they
were going out a style until I realized what was
in cheese its very horrible.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
They're awful. So my mom over.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Holidays or you know, she was giving the kids. I go, no, no, no,
please don't, like, please don't give them. She's like, oh
my gosh, I'm going to give my grandkids cheese its.
I'm like, Mom, they're so bad, please don't. So she
finally got this app on her phone because they're now
watching what they eat. She's like, you know what's really
bad for you?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Cheese its? And I was like, shocker, really, mom, thank you.
She's like, now I see why you were so upset.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So she's like, I will not eat those ever again.
And I'm like, yeah, that along with the dye cokes,
all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's inflammation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And that's why she's like, I've lost so much weight,
I said, because it's all inflammation.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So I have a girlfriend that loves cheese its and
wheat fens and she is tiny, petite and ripped, ripped,
and she's a tennis player.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
She's with athlete all her life, but she's just really.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Petite, really ripped. Arms are just so defined. I'm so
jealous and she eats cheese. It's every single day.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah. Well, and I'm like, girl, do you know how
bad they're cheese? It's and diet coke.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I did go ham on the Sprinkles coffee cake.
It is really good, guys, if you need the dessert
to bring, especially being from Melissa Gorga, Like it's kind
of like like what are the the white Elephant gifts
or whatever, like, oh, this is great. People will be
fighting over that because it is damn good. The cookies,
the coffee cake.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
The coffee cup that they have coffee, like she's she's
doing it and she's doing well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, it's really good, like processed foods is. It's
kind of like a reality show, you know. That's it's
like it's bad but it's good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's bad, but it's good. It's good.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And I told myself, I'm not going to eat it today.
I opened it yesterday and I took a little sliver
because the top has all the crunchy stuff on the top,
and oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And I got this warning and I just went right
into it. Cup of coffee and a little coffee cake.
Good for you, girl.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, I'm just going to see how much weight I
can gain this holiday season.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So whatever it is, what it is, I know how
to get it off.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So they it starts out with Taylor ending that phone
call with this family friend that was sexting and sending pictures.
Then we find out at the reunion that he was
sending pictures too, shirtless pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's ines You're never going to get the truth out
of someone that lies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I know how.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's when I turned on him, dous Dakota. Then I
saw he has a new girl. He's he hard launched
her on social media.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So oh he did. When some a couple of days ago,
some cute little blonde as you.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I don't know if she's an influencer or what she is,
but girl, do you not watch the show?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I will say those kind of guys like, for example,
you know X's past. I'm not going to just call
out one specific one of X's past. It's like it's
all out there. And then when it happens again to them,
I'm like, what did you expect?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Right? If they if you, I understand you wanted to
give them a chance. That's the same thing. It's like,
I'm always up for I don't want to be judged
by my past. I've done some really shitty things in
my past. I don't want to be judged for that
because I've done the work to be better, do healing work,
blah blah blah. But at the same time, there are
certain people that just will continue to repeat patterns, and
(11:53):
to me, he's a he's that person until he just
goes to that you know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yes, yes, well dad things, he's a full blown narcissist.
I think every since social media, everybody's a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think we all have narcissistic tendencies. I think I do.
I think I think every person has a piece of
that narcissism in them.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, especially people on.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
TV artists, you know, like we're.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yep, yep, no, I mean, but some worse than others,
like are full blown Like we all have our selfish
moments and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But listen with his new it's like maybe he's changed,
but well TB D. And if it happens again, then
you know, well yeah walk away.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Demie evidently feels like overnight she's become the villain, and
we talked about this yesterday. She was a fan favorite
in the very beginning, yep, and how quickly that changes,
especially with reality.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're only as good as this week's episode.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You can be great one season and then the villain
the next season.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So just get behind it. To me, just get behind it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I mean, listen, it worked for Whitney, you know what
I mean. Sometimes being the villain gives you a bit
more of a spotlight.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But Whitney in the last episode last yeah, the season finale,
she really turned it around. Yeah she did, she really did.
I was really proud of her. Yeah, really really proud
of her.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think because I think she sees that too, like
she I remember when she came here to do our podcast.
She was you could tell that she wanted to have
a turnaround.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah. Was she lovely in person? I thought she was great.
Honestly I didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I had my preconceived notions, and then when I met her,
I was like, she's great.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I like her. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, Jesse had a grand opening for jay Z Styles
at Hair Academy. Now this is a business she started
way before or she was on Mormon Wives, right, She's
had this for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Like she's she's a big deal over there. I kind
of I want to go get my hair done.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What would you would you go to a friend though,
because I think it's interesting when they were saying, don't
go to Jesse because she doesn't do good hair. I
have a friend who does hair, and I won't go
to her specifically because she's so close as a friend.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well that's the thing, because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
If it's not good, how do you then not then
take away going yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I have a friend that styles my hair for the
show but doesn't do the coloring. You know, she'll put
extensions in once in a while, but doesn't do the coloring,
just because my hair is very fine. And I've had
so many horror stories, like right now, I'm going dark
my natural color darker because.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I went to somebody else and you're blonde. Well, I
mean it's way darker. It's growing out darker, Yeah, darker
than it ever is.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My hair is not very dark naturally, it's kind of
a sandy blonde.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But this girl that I went to, not a friend,
fried my hair so bad fried it.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And when I looked in the mirror and it was
like platinum blonde, I'm like, oh no, my hair will
be falling out within a month.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And sure, enough. So it's been like a year.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And a half and it's you know, it's probably grown
out about I don't know, five inches. It's maybe been
two years now, and it's like there's still an inch
or two that's dead and I just can't So it's
just so bad. So I'm just biting the bullet, not
coloring it, letting it grow out. But yeah, but if
your friend does that to you, it's kind of hard
(15:38):
because then you're like, well.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm not going back to you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I think it's great though, that she's you know,
she's building her business, and obviously the show's helping that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, her hair looks great, her business is going. Yeah,
all of them, they all have this nice hair.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Just it's all like this.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I call it the influencer look, or it's down to
your waist and just got that's feet, cheap curls and
kind of like yours. I love it, but I'm just
too old for it at this point. Do you think
girls said a certain age to shut cut their hair?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I no either.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do I I told my mom not to cut her hair,
and she cut her hair, and I'm like, you look
like Aunt Susie. You're in this but you know, I'm like,
why are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is your mom my child? Your mom? How old? How
old are you? Fifty eight? No, my mom's sixty five. Okay,
I feel better than I'm not your mom's age. I'm
forty two, so we're not far so old.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So I have a son that's going to be forty
this month. Okay, my youngest is twenty. You started young then, yeah, yeah,
I was eighteen when I had my first.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh wow, yeah I was old. I have a two
year old, So.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
There you go. I heard twenty twenty years between my
youngest and my oldest.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh I've been I've been raising kids for forty years.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
We'll talk about kids. Taylor talks to her mom about
Ever's child custody. I know that mediation.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I just don't when.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
He was like refusing to, you know, film, the cheating
story gets out there. What I don't like about that
is saying, okay, so you're you'll only show the good,
but you're not going to show that. Everyone's showing all sides.
So you can't pick and choose just because you don't
want to be looked at as the bad guy, right right?
Taylor looked bad in the beginning, Whitney's looked bad, Demi's
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looked bad.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Jesse's looked like, come on, do you think they pay
the guys on this show?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Not as much as the girls, but I bet you
they get something.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
But you know on Housewives, the men don't get paid.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh really Yeah, so it makes that so maybe not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So so I was wondering, like, is he like, screw this,
I'm not getting paid?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Why am I doing this? Or is it valid? You know?
So trying to look at both sides.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But I was shocked to see him this season, and
I think he'll be back next season. I think once
they get in front of that camera, you know, and
they're out there in the public person, and then time
goes by where you know, no one's going to be
talking about this now for a while, and then they'd
come back the next season. It's like pregnancy, you forget
all about it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I would if I was Dakota though, and I was
his agent or manager. He has a big enough name
that he deserves to be paid. I don't think Brett
should be paid. I don't think some of these other husbands, yeah,
I don't think they have enough presence. But Dakota is
a strong enough storyline that I will and he could
get paid.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, yeah, he could get paid. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I was just wondering if he did, because like on Housewives,
the men I mean ultimately were married. The money goes
in the same bank account.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But you know, but there's some people that have right,
there's some people that are just dating, and these guys
are not getting paid. Well that makes sense, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But they had they talked about, you know, wanting to
It wasn't baptism, what was it. It was? It was
like the what's that called a christening?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
They had a different name for it, but I think
basically that's what it was. And they had it set
up and they had to cancel it because he wouldn't
film and they wanted to film it and he wouldn't
sign off.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know why they still couldn't have done it
even though the cameras weren't there, right, Or he just
didn't want to be around her.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know. I'm very confused about all of it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Whitney and Macy talk about the upcoming mom Talk meeting.
I thought it was really nice that Whitney got the
girls together and wanted to end the season on a
good note and ultimately when they do meet. Getting ahead
of myself, but you know, she does say that she
wants to be back in this group and not just
for business reasons.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I think we all want that friendship. I think
some things can be difficult when you're not actual friends.
Like again, they were all friends doing that dancing stuff,
but they weren't probably the strongest of friends friendship for
a long time. So I think when it becomes business
and then muddied friendships, but knowing at the end of
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the day, they are all in this together, so a
friendship should be something that is helpful for each one
of them.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, And I was happy that she did that, and
I was happy all the way to the end until
I wasn't happy.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And we'll get to that. You mean with how boring
the reunion.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Was, Oh my god, or what I really want to
say is the fact that Taylor went on a date
maybe not a date with Chase.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh that was weird.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm like, the whole time, I'm thinking, oh, this is
such a great way to end the season.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They're all getting along, and then that happened.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Why I just didn't like with Chase, Yeah, we're getting
our ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But yes, yeah, we'll get to it. But I'm just
like no. But in the meantime, we have Jordan and
Jesse deciding they're going to try to make it work
and love and I love that they seem like they
truly love each other. I just couldn't take Jordan's sirius
with his.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Utah dad talk hat on.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah is it a real thing? Like are they making
money off of this?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I have no clue.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Do they have their own Like oh my, like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And I do hope they make it work though, Yeah,
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean, I'm according to social media they're still together.
And I didn't know that Jordan was a teen dad.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I don't know that either. Yeah, he had talked about it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I feel like every one of these girls, even guys,
have had some traumatic experience in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They're all going through therapy.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yep, they all talk about their triggers like there's a
lot of trauma within this group.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
There is, and it's nice that they're honestly it's again,
I think it'll be helping people talking about it. Yeah, yeah,
they surface stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like I lost my diamond ear ring in the water,
you know. Kim Kardashian, No and no, no shade on
them either.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I love the Kardashians, but you know what I'm saying,
Like they're like really and now they're talking about deep stuff,
but back then it's like, this is nice to have
the show that started with.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, so I liked that they did get They really
put a lot of thought into meeting.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They even got a room that they're going to meet at.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
And I don't know if it's a house or event venue,
I don't know, but it had a kitchen, had a pool,
it had everything.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Will looked like a big old house. And then they
had these glow sticks around their necks where they spoke
their truth. Then they apologized, and then they broke it off.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And then they had what was at a barbie that
was yeah, had mom talk across her ass or something
like that and a cocktail in her hand, and you
know you can only talk when you have the barbie
in your hand.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, it's very legally blonde of them. It was right,
That's exactly what it was. Yeah, But did you feel
like Whitney was being the voice of reason? I always
think her well like, I think Taylor again has had
such a very strong, empowered voice this season, and I
do feel like Whitney has showed up in the end.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, so Demi apologizes Taylor and sharing her struggles growing
up with a brother with Down syndrome. It's another thing
that we didn't know anything about. I don't know that
we've ever even seen Demi's parents or siblings or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know, when she talked about she had a term
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can't remember what it was, but you know, being
the other kid, when so much time is spent on
one child and you're kind of don't know where you
fit in.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And that really made me understand her a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah right, and that need for not attention, but for love, yeh,
attention too. I don't know that she was getting love,
but not in the way that her six year old
self not probably didn't feel that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And I honestly don't care what happened with Marciana anymore.
Like I'm so over.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's besides the point because the other day it's the
only person that knows is the man up there, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Right, It's like, why are we giving this guy any
more attention?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, Well, they do end up throwing this.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Baptism. Was it a baptism or was it just a party?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I wasn't quite sure. In Taylor's death, you know, at
her parents' house and he prayed for everybody and it
was sweet, and Dakota wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It's like, come on, buddy, just show up. Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, And then we get to the end where Taylor
and Chase go to dinner and I'm like, why, why
is this happening?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Do you think that he asked Taylor for a kiss
for old time sake? It's like, that is the last.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Thing a that either one of you guys should do.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But she's in a better place, So I think that
one was probably a storyline that was created with the
help of the producers, is my Yeah. I think I
ought ever have done that, or Taylor would have agreed
to that, Which is why I also think even back
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in the episodes prior with even Again, I here we go,
bring Hi up again, Marciana and Jesse, like him bringing
the flowers or him going there, that get I feel
like those things were producer manipulated.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I agree with that, but I was just like, no,
it isn't that kind of breaking girl code too?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Miranda was married to Chase, right.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, their girl code is
very blurried.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It's like they're the only people that live in Utah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
They just all date each other. Yeah, I mean Benny
Hardy kissed, they've already kissed.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Well, were they talking about the shower too?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, they were part of the swinging couple, you know,
so I can't. I can't with these That was.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
The whole and that was why it was hard for
Taylor and Miranda because of their the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
But oh god, well that's it. That's a season finale.
We'll just breeze through the reunion.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were you disappointed because I truly I was so excited.
I even put like a cow like alert like reunion.
I was so excited, and I was so underwhelmed, and
I'm like, when are they going to get to it?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's just so underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But they also agreed though, I feel like everybody on
the cast said like, hey, we hear you. We also
were very disappointed with that thirteen hour at it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
That was crap.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So first reunion they had, nick, second reunion they had stassy.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Did you think job. Oh yeah, o, yes, yeah, I'm
like Nick. I like Nick too, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I watched the READI I didn't watch all the show
like I watched the reunion, but I think I think
Nick is good because he did drum up some of
the drama, yeah, as opposed to just keeping it girl friendly.
And I think Stuce is great, but I do like,
you want someone that kind of goes I don't know,
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but did you to then get the other people and
it's not like I'm it's not like we're looking for
cat fights, but we do want a little bit of drama.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We want a little bit of the right. Yeah, yeah, no,
I agree. It makes a good show.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think that Nick did a better job, that's for sure. Sorry, Stussy,
I think that's a really hard shoes to fill. You know,
when it comes to reunions, it's started on Housewife. Andy
Cohen is amazing at it, so good at it. So
anytime there any show has a reunion like this, it
just never compares. First of all, I don't think they
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need a reunion because of the fact that they film
non stop and half the stuff they can't even really
talk about, and they're.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Taught such about it because oh, we can't. And it's like, well,
then why are you here?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Why are we doing this? Yeah, I just don't think
that it's a smart thing to do. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And then they can give us a little bit more stuff,
that's the thing. Unless they can give more teak till
season three.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's like, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Just yeah, she said that so many times, and it's
many times. You can't like the Marciano of it all.
They couldn't really talk about it in the last reunion
because they were filming it for this next season coming.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's almost like they should have their reunion when it
is completely done.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah. I just don't think they need a reunion. And
I'm curious to see after the both reunions not doing
that well that or maybe they did.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The ratings, just I hear the backlash of people saying
they didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And then plus it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm a big I'm a big like Love is Blind
reunion people, I like those because you know that that's
it's done.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
After that done, right, so they have to say all
the stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, And then it was very like promotional like the
dunkin donuts, Like here we are, I'm going to go
over to the Dunkin.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Donut bar and I'm going to get myself a drink.
We get it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Wait, can I just have like one piece of clarity?
Is Jen actually related to Ben? I've never understood that.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well. I don't think we know.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's right up there with the Marciano thing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, She's in the Duncan commercial with Ben, I know,
which is just funny.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That is funny that it was a un idea and
it's like, Jen, who's not an actress, has more lines
than Ben all he is in the in the drive
through lane and he's like rude, rude.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's funny. And they don't even drink coffee apparently, and they.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Probably don't even They probably weren't there at the same time,
right filming that commercial probably filmed totally two different areas differently.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, right, unless she flew to Los Angeles where he's at.
I didn't. I don't know. I didn't see any pictures
of them.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, but but your your peep said no, so no,
I guess they're not. And of course who comes out
as the bar tender is Chase or the Duncan for emotion.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I know, Chase and then his brother, which again I
think they're cute. They are the brother, the brother. I'm Layla.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, Layla and Mason like they're cute together. Mason is
like his long hair.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, I think he's really cute, and I think they're
really cute together.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And I think they're still together. Layla and Mason like that.
I like that too.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I just hope that Mason isn't using her eye for
show's purposes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Doesn't he seem really sweet though? He does? I know,
he seems really sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't think what.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
He wore was very sweet. His blad I don't remember.
Tank top, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't think any man should wear a tank top.
That's not like in the heat of the summer.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like, you know, like the Haines tank top.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, my husband calls them ves tank tops, but
really that's what we should call it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's a cute even.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Though where's your husband from Scotland?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, oh yeah, she's Scottish. Scottish? She should he should
go on traders, sure, sure, go for it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So then it got a little sad and a little
dark at the reunion Michaela opens up about her relationship
and says that she and Jay still haven't gotten over
their intimacy issues. And then through therapy, Jesse uncovered the
memory of getting raped at nineteen, which now she's having
intimacy issues with Jordan.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And it's just like, it's just so hard.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's so much that these girls are talking about and
they've gone through and they're all crying and then what
then then the Marciano of it all, it's like, you know,
what was what was Hulu thinking?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Pretty much?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I sound around these girls exactly. I think the piece
that makes me sad is a lot of people that
I saw were saying like, how do you how do
you just randomly uncover the memory of getting raped? And
it's like, listen, how people manage and deal with trauma
and how they store it and deal with it. It
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might be different from somebody else, you know, but to just.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, then people also block out memories that they don't
want to remember, me traumatic things.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, yeah, so I mean I would never so brave
have heard question somebody like that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So all the guys come out except for Brett, which
I didn't quite understand that Demi's husband.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Because he's not a part of dad talk, so he's
like he's basically the old dad, you know what I mean,
They're just like they need to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
With dad talk. They need to stop with that. I
don't need dad talk. I wanted to be about the moms,
just like, yeah, do that, I would.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I hope they stay on the storyline of the mom
talk they're going to. I think they'll lose a lot
of women if they go too heavy in dad talk.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, what which feels too forced? It's so forced.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
What did you think about the unseen footage of Marciano
and Jesse talking?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Do you remember that? Like she asked him, She.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Asked him, did did do you think we had sex?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And he said yes, if you have to ask, then
there's reasonable doubt, right in a cordial all right, I
mean I don't know if there's not a I mean, listen,
in my twenties, I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like, did I have?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But that is like years twenty plus years ago, right, questioning?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Maybe something? Is it that they were drinking and they're
not supposed to drink. But I know she drinks, doesn't
she drink? I think she drinks? But he also said
he took like a viya or that night too, Yeah,
in earlier episodes, So I'm confused.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I don't know, but her husband is right there, cialis
that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And then she's like was.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Telling him that she loved him, And I'm like, how
long did this emotional affair go on? Like when I
thought about the Marciano of it all, I instantly thought
it was Marciano and Demi.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yes, and really what happened with them was really nothing. Yeah,
it really there's a lot to this Jesse and Marciano stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think Jesse was so unhappy in her marriage that
and I'll say this, when someone is so unhappy in
their marriage and they it's whether sober or not. People
can do stupid things and still not mean them. So
I think she probably I still think there's a little
bit more to maybe what happened, but there's no way
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that maybe she can even wrap hermind her on it
because she's just, you know again, kind of pushing it down.
But and maybe that's that's all there is. But I
do think people when they're so unhappy, it doesn't make
it right. And whether they did or they didn't, it
was inappropriate, bottom line, So does it At the end
of the day really matter physicality of what it was.
I don't think so when you step a line, you
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step a line.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean that's just me.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Some people know it's it's only bad it they if
they actually had sex. I'm like, no, it's not words,
Like my ex could have had sex with so many people,
But if he said he loved someone, that was it for.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Me, right, I think an emotional affair is way worse.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Than just one hundred People do not get that. Like
my husband, I would never he like, he's like, what
do you mean? But I was like, it doesn't matter
if he said he loved her, done, done. The emotional
is so much more impactful to me.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, Well Dakota shows up to the reunion. Now do
you think Wait back to the Marciano thing. I had
a question.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Stossy said that the guys were in Italy.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, but again, we don't know until season three so
it actually happened.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
So it's the next season, the next season, So why
would they send the guys right back into the situation
and send Jesse's husband Jordan to be around Marciano?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You know why? I mean, God, why do you want
good TV? Because I want to watch it, and you
know why they did that.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I couldn't imagine any guy that went through that'll be like, yes,
that sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm going to go and hang out with a guy
that my wife was camera. No on camera, give us
the drama.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean as a viewer, yeah, I want to see it,
but I'm like, that is no crazy crazy. Do you
think Dakota coming to the reunion and all all the
girls had to leave? Do you think that that was
a Taylor's idea, like she didn't want to be sitting
in the same room as him, or his idea.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I think it could be a little bit of both,
but I bet you it was more him. I think
it was probably him not wanting to face all of that, yeah,
than her, because I think she's she's a strong girl
like she I think she's she's very forgiving, she's very
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she's smart and she's forgiving, and I think she's really
strong and she can go like all right, yeah whatever,
it didn't didn't work. Yeah, but I don't think she's
I don't see her as the type to be like,
I can't be in the same room as you.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I just don't Well, actually, it says He said that
he's only attendant of the girls are backstage, but it
didn't really work out because Taylor couldn't take much of it.
Sitting backstage listened to his bullshit, and She's like, I'm
going out there. I'm going out there. And then one
of the girls followed her. Right, yeah, I went right
out there and sat with her. And then the first
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thing he says to her is you look pretty.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's like, what we should just don't talk to her.
Don't such a mister big comment. I know, you're so
shut up.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, So they go round and round, and then Taylor's
parents came out.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They had jeans and black T shirts on. Everybody's dressed
up guys.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But if they walked out in a full on gown,
I feel like people would say, oh, they're not the stars.
It's like, I don't think they could have won in
any any way.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Maybe a blouse. I don't just write, I know, slack
slat of something. They were like, they were dressed the same.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Right, yeah, But again, I do think if people would
have come at them if they were.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
All bound up. Maybe I don't know, but you know,
he tried.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He attempted to apologize to them, after he was so
heated and he felt like it wasn't fair because he
was emotional, and then Leanne gets emotional, and then Jeremy
says he can't accept anything that comes out of Coda's mouth. Yeah,
and we just kind of leave it like that, And
I mean, I'm curious to see if Dakota will be
(39:04):
back next season.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think he deserves a paycheck if he's not getting one,
and I would like to see him back because I
do want to root for people, especially people like a Dakota,
the underdog stories of it. I would love to see
growth and change with him, and I would love to
see him happy and in a relationship and healing and
(39:28):
doing the work.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
And I can do it. I really think I can
do it.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And I think anybody can if they want to, and
if they can own up to their mistakes and stop
blaming other people. I think that's the easy route with
a lot of I you know, for what women and men.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I just think he's a guy that can't be alone,
and I think he really wants to be a tailor
and he wants his family back together. But then when
some girl slides in and he's down and out and
he's like here, you know, we got to know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We talked about this a little bit earlier, but he
was sending her pictures as well.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, he was sending her pictures and shocked that this
girl's face has.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Not come out. You know, there's some shady friend or something.
It's like, here she is. This is where all we
know is.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
She goes to the gym, because what was it? Chase
saw her at the gym. She's friends with Leanne and
that's all we really know. But you know, he stormed
out of there. He took his clothes off so fast,
he took that mic off, and he's like, I'm out.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And I'm like, oh yeah, I think everybody has said
that on the show.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh I have I did it. How many times have
you said you're done? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Well, BALI was probably my first time. I just I
was going through a horrible time, is going through a divorce.
My husband was trying to do, you know, take custody
away with no merit whatsoever, Like it was just and
I just couldn't take it, and I'm like, I'm done.
And then this season was super hard for me to
film because two weeks after starting, Teddy got diagnosed, and
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it's just like, none of this really makes sense when
you have a friend that's going through a really hard time.
It's like, I'd rather be there with my friend than
scream and yell and fight with girls on National teav
It just didn't well.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Puts things into perspective exactly. That's what a lot of
this is. And what we forget is that. And again,
I am not in the reality world as you like you,
but I watch it as a TV show, and what
I think a lot of people forget is that this
is your actual life. You're not playing a script from
the pages like this. This is your life. And so
(41:36):
I think that is where the difference for us viewers,
because we come at you like you're our favorite character
or our most hated character. But yet these people are
going through things and what is you know, what's it
worth at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, I mean, you can go through things and have
supportive friends that are there for you and get through it.
But if you're going through these things and then you
have people coming at you, you're like, I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
I don't emotionally have the energy to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Crap.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, that's why I'm not moving to Beverly Hills and
being on the real heard.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I actually heard that Teddy's the one that gave your name.
She gave my name years ago. Oh really, like years.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And years and years ago to be like a friend
of hers on the show. But now they've called again,
and that's what I'm like, I don't live there.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
What Oh wow, Wow, I think they should do one
where you're at now.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I think that they've talked about it off and on,
but I think.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That they should do it so many times they have.
But would you do it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Then?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, I don't. Again, No, I don't have box. I
can't do it. I caldn't do it. Would your husband
do it? He actually talked to the OC back in
the way day, like what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
He was friends with his ex wife was friends with
someone and they had I think briefly talked to someone
about maybe doing.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It way back in the day. Is this X in
Orange County not anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Would I have known her known her?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I don't know. I don't think so. But one of
the one of the wives do huh? Interesting? Yeah, but
that is interesting. Fun fact.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Fun fact that which wouldn't have been just another divorce
on reality TV.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, but anyways, thank you so much. It was so
fun getting to know you a little bit. And I
hope you have the Squaliday.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Hope you yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, So thanks guys for tuning in. And that's it
for the season. I don't know when the next season
comes out, but I'm sure it's soon. They're They're like
a well oiled machine over there that at Hulu.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So bye, guys,
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Hey guys, welcome back another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod. Today, I have a get and the One
the Only. Jenna, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Girl? You just feel it?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I just feel you know, you know? Tis the
season feeling just a bit spent, but it was. I'm
a room mom for the first and only time. I've
realized I'm not cussing. You're done, one and done. Wanted
to do it, okay and done, all right, but I
know like now that I can't. You know, like some
moms are just I see these moms and I'm like, oh,
(00:42):
You're just made for this.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's not me. I can't do it. Well, Jenna. I
tried to be a Brownie leader one year. One year.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was a very long time ago. Of course, my
kids are grown now. It was a one and done. Yeah, yeah,
you I could see you being.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Like a Brownie girl, scout room mom. You just listen.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'll say where I excelled was I was in charge
of doing the games. I'm a very competitive person, so
when we were playing the games, I'm like, all right,
get your toe back by the line, like, you know,
I was like a good I was a good wrath.
I kept the energy. I kept them having a lot
of fun. But the whole, the process of it all,
and that part, I'm just like, I I don't have
(01:24):
the capacity.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
How old now in this time? How old were these kids? Ten? Oh? Okay,
that's when they're really opinionated. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And it's hard for me too, because you know, some
of the it's like I can only discipline my.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Child, you know what I mean, So I have to
be like, okay, back back.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Back, you know, like that's wonderful, you know, and stuff. Yeah,
like I can't get excelled from being a room parent.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But oh that's gnat. So are you done Christmas shopping?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We? Yes, I'm done. I actually just put my last
little order in right now before we got on. So
I I'm a big Do you ever heard that Lelo fragrance?
I love giving that as a gift. It's one of
my favorite fragrances.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm gonna have to check that out.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah so good, Yeah, get some check really good. I
use the scent.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Another thirteen I didn't even know about till my husband,
like he knows all the good fragrances and stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But yeah, good check and they've got good candles. It's good.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's like Joe Malone. How they have the perfume.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yes, better, this is better. Yeah, So I like to
give those as gifts to the peeps.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Now, are you one of those that goes like absolutely
crazy with Christmas, like hires somebody to decorate the entire
house in the tree and.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I have either. I just like to just put
it where I put it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I know I don't like to outsource like that,
that's not we're all outsource.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I like to do it like as a family. Although
my daughter's the only one that's up for it these days.
Well she's only one left at home and my husband's.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like, you guys have fun at that? Yeah, fun.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But I like turning the Christmas music gone, decorating the tree, yeah,
having drinking hot chocolate coffee.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's fun. And I
do it really early. So I do it the first
week in November, just because it takes so much to
get everything down and out that I want to enjoy
it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right. I did that this year.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I went before a couple of days before Thanksgiving, so
it was up by Thanksgiving. I rarely do that, but
it's like only having it up a couple of weeks
and going through all that work.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, But I'm also the person that will take it
down the day after Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh me too. Yeah, I'm done, Like we're done. Yeah,
it's done. Get this stuff out of here.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Melissa Gorga from New Jersey sent me her sprinkle cookies
and her coffee cake.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Have you tried them? No? But I love her. I
love she.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She's so sweet. She's always been so kind and so
nice every time we've ever chatted, so.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She's really not I love her.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
She sends them to me all the time, and I
always try to post, you know, and promote any housewife
that sends me their products.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I will do that, but I can't stop eating it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's okay, it's all right. I'm having a holiday party today.
I decided to the bus stop moms are all coming
to my house. Later, I thought it was a really
good idea. A month ago, Well you're hanging out with
the bus stop moms, I am, and I was like,
got you you out for this? No? No, no, this
is where my manipulation comes in a bit though, I'm
going to I'll just call myself out because they're like, hey,
(04:32):
we should all get together and go out, and I
was like, I'll host because I don't want to go out.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I just don't like going out.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So I would rather everybody just come to the house
because I know that I'll say yes. And if we
had a reservation tonight the twelve thirty club downtown, I
would probably cancel me too, So I'm like, yeah, I
don't like to have it at my house.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I like over the weekend, I had things to do.
It's the holidays, and two three days in a row,
I had something to do, and I cannot get back
on track.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now I'm so tired. I can't, I know, like socializing,
doing all those things.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm like, no, no, I was supposed to go to
a party last night for Glad and I did not.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I did donate, but I did not. I could not go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I was just I'm so tired. So I know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And now it's the struggle too, where it's I don't
drink that much anymore, so and it's been it's been
a minute and so but I know now that they'll
probably bring some wine. I'll have one, and then I'm
gonna wake up feeling like shit in the morning.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right. That's I'm like, do I even do it? Or
do I just say no this time? Wow? TBD.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I went to dinner with Vicki and Katie and I
had two glasses of wine and the next day I
felt like shit.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I woke up in the middle of the night. I
was sweating, Yes, the sweat. The sweat. What is that? Yeah,
And I'm just like, it's just not worth it anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I know, you know, maybe what I'll do is I'll
just like make a mocktail but pretend like it's something like, oh,
I already poured it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But then I'm afraid if I say I'm not going
to drink anymore, it puts pressure on you to be like,
oh my god, what if I do want a gloss
of wine?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know, Like, I don't think you have to say
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's not like you're saying I'm either. I think a
lot of people now are that sober curious. I don't
think you have to, like, it's been months since I've
had a drink, and if I'm not saying I'm not
drinking I'm just choosing not to at the moment. Doesn't
mean that I'm never going to drink again. And I
know some people that like, my husband isn't going to drink,
that's fine, but I might have one maybe one time.
(06:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
See, my husband doesn't drink Either's I wouldn't say he's sober, Like, yeah,
it is, but he doesn't rarely drinks.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
He had hard issues quite a few years ago and it's.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
A trigger for aphib so he's like, why why would
I do that?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So it's very rare, rare, And if he does, he'll
have one drink. That's it, right. But just like the
Mormon wives, which we're getting.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Into exactly, and they don't drink at all, besides those.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Wigs or whatever they get that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Which I'm like, those are pop is so bad for you,
I know, I like, it's actually, what's worse?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Have you heard probably that?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have you heard before they've been mixed? No, not before
the show, but they're mixing it. I'm like, if you're
we're looking at ingredients, because I'm kind of a crunchy
person with that, I'm like, it's I can guarantee you.
I think the alcohol's probably better than the twigs.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It probably is so Jianna.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And you know what I did twenty something years never
drank soda ever.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We call it pop from Michigan. Okay, well I now
started drinking diet coke. No, no, because of my assistant.
No assistant so bad. So time out.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Go to Whole Foods and go get a za za.
We are going to blame you, Caden, because that is
so bad. And I get on Catherine, who does my
podcast with me, so bad maybe like once a month
if you want to treat yourself. Girls, but to go
to Whole Foods and get on a zvia and they've
got a cola that tastes great.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Okay, well I'm going to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'll give the bubbles. It'll still give you that coda
pop vibe. No, it's not the best.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So even my daughter, who would never I never allowed
my kids to have soda, she started taking di like, oh,
can you know what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Her skin started breaking out? Yeah, and because in inflammation.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, I'm not doing it anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
My mom? My mom?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Finally, because she'd always get on me that I used
to eat a whole box of cheese It's like they
were going out a style until I realized what was
in cheese its very horrible.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
They're awful. So my mom over.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Holidays or you know, she was giving the kids. I go, no, no, no,
please don't, like, please don't give them. She's like, oh
my gosh, I'm going to give my grandkids cheese its.
I'm like, Mom, they're so bad, please don't. So she
finally got this app on her phone because they're now
watching what they eat. She's like, you know what's really
bad for you?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Cheese its? And I was like, shocker, really, mom, thank you.
She's like, now I see why you were so upset.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So she's like, I will not eat those ever again.
And I'm like, yeah, that along with the dye cokes,
all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's inflammation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And that's why she's like, I've lost so much weight,
I said, because it's all inflammation.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So I have a girlfriend that loves cheese its and
wheat fens and she is tiny, petite and ripped, ripped,
and she's a tennis player.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
She's with athlete all her life, but she's just really.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Petite, really ripped. Arms are just so defined. I'm so
jealous and she eats cheese. It's every single day.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah. Well, and I'm like, girl, do you know how
bad they're cheese? It's and diet coke.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I did go ham on the Sprinkles coffee cake.
It is really good, guys, if you need the dessert
to bring, especially being from Melissa Gorga, Like it's kind
of like like what are the the white Elephant gifts
or whatever, like, oh, this is great. People will be
fighting over that because it is damn good. The cookies,
the coffee cake.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
The coffee cup that they have coffee, like she's she's
doing it and she's doing well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, it's really good, like processed foods is. It's
kind of like a reality show, you know. That's it's
like it's bad but it's good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's bad, but it's good. It's good.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And I told myself, I'm not going to eat it today.
I opened it yesterday and I took a little sliver
because the top has all the crunchy stuff on the top,
and oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And I got this warning and I just went right
into it. Cup of coffee and a little coffee cake.
Good for you, girl.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, I'm just going to see how much weight I
can gain this holiday season.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So whatever it is, what it is, I know how
to get it off.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So they it starts out with Taylor ending that phone
call with this family friend that was sexting and sending pictures.
Then we find out at the reunion that he was
sending pictures too, shirtless pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's ines You're never going to get the truth out
of someone that lies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I know how.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's when I turned on him, dous Dakota. Then I
saw he has a new girl. He's he hard launched
her on social media.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So oh he did. When some a couple of days ago,
some cute little blonde as you.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I don't know if she's an influencer or what she is,
but girl, do you not watch the show?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I will say those kind of guys like, for example,
you know X's past. I'm not going to just call
out one specific one of X's past. It's like it's
all out there. And then when it happens again to them,
I'm like, what did you expect?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Right? If they if you, I understand you wanted to
give them a chance. That's the same thing. It's like,
I'm always up for I don't want to be judged
by my past. I've done some really shitty things in
my past. I don't want to be judged for that
because I've done the work to be better, do healing work,
blah blah blah. But at the same time, there are
certain people that just will continue to repeat patterns, and
(11:53):
to me, he's a he's that person until he just
goes to that you know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yes, yes, well dad things, he's a full blown narcissist.
I think every since social media, everybody's a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think we all have narcissistic tendencies. I think I do.
I think I think every person has a piece of
that narcissism in them.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, especially people on.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
TV artists, you know, like we're.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yep, yep, no, I mean, but some worse than others,
like are full blown Like we all have our selfish
moments and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But listen with his new it's like maybe he's changed,
but well TB D. And if it happens again, then
you know, well yeah walk away.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Demie evidently feels like overnight she's become the villain, and
we talked about this yesterday. She was a fan favorite
in the very beginning, yep, and how quickly that changes,
especially with reality.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're only as good as this week's episode.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You can be great one season and then the villain
the next season.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So just get behind it. To me, just get behind it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I mean, listen, it worked for Whitney, you know what
I mean. Sometimes being the villain gives you a bit
more of a spotlight.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But Whitney in the last episode last yeah, the season finale,
she really turned it around. Yeah she did, she really did.
I was really proud of her. Yeah, really really proud
of her.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think because I think she sees that too, like
she I remember when she came here to do our podcast.
She was you could tell that she wanted to have
a turnaround.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah. Was she lovely in person? I thought she was great.
Honestly I didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I had my preconceived notions, and then when I met her,
I was like, she's great.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I like her. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, Jesse had a grand opening for jay Z Styles
at Hair Academy. Now this is a business she started
way before or she was on Mormon Wives, right, She's
had this for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Like she's she's a big deal over there. I kind
of I want to go get my hair done.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What would you would you go to a friend though,
because I think it's interesting when they were saying, don't
go to Jesse because she doesn't do good hair. I
have a friend who does hair, and I won't go
to her specifically because she's so close as a friend.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well that's the thing, because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
If it's not good, how do you then not then
take away going yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I have a friend that styles my hair for the
show but doesn't do the coloring. You know, she'll put
extensions in once in a while, but doesn't do the coloring,
just because my hair is very fine. And I've had
so many horror stories, like right now, I'm going dark
my natural color darker because.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I went to somebody else and you're blonde. Well, I
mean it's way darker. It's growing out darker, Yeah, darker
than it ever is.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My hair is not very dark naturally, it's kind of
a sandy blonde.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But this girl that I went to, not a friend,
fried my hair so bad fried it.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And when I looked in the mirror and it was
like platinum blonde, I'm like, oh no, my hair will
be falling out within a month.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And sure, enough. So it's been like a year.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And a half and it's you know, it's probably grown
out about I don't know, five inches. It's maybe been
two years now, and it's like there's still an inch
or two that's dead and I just can't So it's
just so bad. So I'm just biting the bullet, not
coloring it, letting it grow out. But yeah, but if
your friend does that to you, it's kind of hard
(15:38):
because then you're like, well.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm not going back to you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I think it's great though, that she's you know,
she's building her business, and obviously the show's helping that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, her hair looks great, her business is going. Yeah,
all of them, they all have this nice hair.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Just it's all like this.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I call it the influencer look, or it's down to
your waist and just got that's feet, cheap curls and
kind of like yours. I love it, but I'm just
too old for it at this point. Do you think
girls said a certain age to shut cut their hair?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I no either.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do I I told my mom not to cut her hair,
and she cut her hair, and I'm like, you look
like Aunt Susie. You're in this but you know, I'm like,
why are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is your mom my child? Your mom? How old? How
old are you? Fifty eight? No, my mom's sixty five. Okay,
I feel better than I'm not your mom's age. I'm
forty two, so we're not far so old.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So I have a son that's going to be forty
this month. Okay, my youngest is twenty. You started young then, yeah, yeah,
I was eighteen when I had my first.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh wow, yeah I was old. I have a two
year old, So.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
There you go. I heard twenty twenty years between my
youngest and my oldest.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh I've been I've been raising kids for forty years.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
We'll talk about kids. Taylor talks to her mom about
Ever's child custody. I know that mediation.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I just don't when.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
He was like refusing to, you know, film, the cheating
story gets out there. What I don't like about that
is saying, okay, so you're you'll only show the good,
but you're not going to show that. Everyone's showing all sides.
So you can't pick and choose just because you don't
want to be looked at as the bad guy, right right?
Taylor looked bad in the beginning, Whitney's looked bad, Demi's
(17:29):
looked bad.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Jesse's looked like, come on, do you think they pay
the guys on this show?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Not as much as the girls, but I bet you
they get something.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
But you know on Housewives, the men don't get paid.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh really Yeah, so it makes that so maybe not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So so I was wondering, like, is he like, screw this,
I'm not getting paid?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Why am I doing this? Or is it valid? You know?
So trying to look at both sides.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But I was shocked to see him this season, and
I think he'll be back next season. I think once
they get in front of that camera, you know, and
they're out there in the public person, and then time
goes by where you know, no one's going to be
talking about this now for a while, and then they'd
come back the next season. It's like pregnancy, you forget
all about it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I would if I was Dakota though, and I was
his agent or manager. He has a big enough name
that he deserves to be paid. I don't think Brett
should be paid. I don't think some of these other husbands, yeah,
I don't think they have enough presence. But Dakota is
a strong enough storyline that I will and he could
get paid.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, yeah, he could get paid. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I was just wondering if he did, because like on Housewives,
the men I mean ultimately were married. The money goes
in the same bank account.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But you know, but there's some people that have right,
there's some people that are just dating, and these guys
are not getting paid. Well that makes sense, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But they had they talked about, you know, wanting to
It wasn't baptism, what was it. It was? It was
like the what's that called a christening?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
They had a different name for it, but I think
basically that's what it was. And they had it set
up and they had to cancel it because he wouldn't
film and they wanted to film it and he wouldn't
sign off.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know why they still couldn't have done it
even though the cameras weren't there, right, Or he just
didn't want to be around her.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know. I'm very confused about all of it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Whitney and Macy talk about the upcoming mom Talk meeting.
I thought it was really nice that Whitney got the
girls together and wanted to end the season on a
good note and ultimately when they do meet. Getting ahead
of myself, but you know, she does say that she
wants to be back in this group and not just
for business reasons.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I think we all want that friendship. I think
some things can be difficult when you're not actual friends.
Like again, they were all friends doing that dancing stuff,
but they weren't probably the strongest of friends friendship for
a long time. So I think when it becomes business
and then muddied friendships, but knowing at the end of
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the day, they are all in this together, so a
friendship should be something that is helpful for each one
of them.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, And I was happy that she did that, and
I was happy all the way to the end until
I wasn't happy.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And we'll get to that. You mean with how boring
the reunion.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Was, Oh my god, or what I really want to
say is the fact that Taylor went on a date
maybe not a date with Chase.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh that was weird.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm like, the whole time, I'm thinking, oh, this is
such a great way to end the season.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They're all getting along, and then that happened.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Why I just didn't like with Chase, Yeah, we're getting
our ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But yes, yeah, we'll get to it. But I'm just
like no. But in the meantime, we have Jordan and
Jesse deciding they're going to try to make it work
and love and I love that they seem like they
truly love each other. I just couldn't take Jordan's sirius
with his.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Utah dad talk hat on.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah is it a real thing? Like are they making
money off of this?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I have no clue.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Do they have their own Like oh my, like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And I do hope they make it work though, Yeah,
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean, I'm according to social media they're still together.
And I didn't know that Jordan was a teen dad.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I don't know that either. Yeah, he had talked about it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I feel like every one of these girls, even guys,
have had some traumatic experience in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They're all going through therapy.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yep, they all talk about their triggers like there's a
lot of trauma within this group.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
There is, and it's nice that they're honestly it's again,
I think it'll be helping people talking about it. Yeah, yeah,
they surface stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like I lost my diamond ear ring in the water,
you know. Kim Kardashian, No and no, no shade on
them either.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I love the Kardashians, but you know what I'm saying,
Like they're like really and now they're talking about deep stuff,
but back then it's like, this is nice to have
the show that started with.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, so I liked that they did get They really
put a lot of thought into meeting.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They even got a room that they're going to meet at.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
And I don't know if it's a house or event venue,
I don't know, but it had a kitchen, had a pool,
it had everything.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Will looked like a big old house. And then they
had these glow sticks around their necks where they spoke
their truth. Then they apologized, and then they broke it off.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And then they had what was at a barbie that
was yeah, had mom talk across her ass or something
like that and a cocktail in her hand, and you
know you can only talk when you have the barbie
in your hand.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, it's very legally blonde of them. It was right,
That's exactly what it was. Yeah, But did you feel
like Whitney was being the voice of reason? I always
think her well like, I think Taylor again has had
such a very strong, empowered voice this season, and I
do feel like Whitney has showed up in the end.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, so Demi apologizes Taylor and sharing her struggles growing
up with a brother with Down syndrome. It's another thing
that we didn't know anything about. I don't know that
we've ever even seen Demi's parents or siblings or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know, when she talked about she had a term
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can't remember what it was, but you know, being
the other kid, when so much time is spent on
one child and you're kind of don't know where you
fit in.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And that really made me understand her a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah right, and that need for not attention, but for love, yeh,
attention too. I don't know that she was getting love,
but not in the way that her six year old
self not probably didn't feel that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And I honestly don't care what happened with Marciana anymore.
Like I'm so over.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's besides the point because the other day it's the
only person that knows is the man up there, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Right, It's like, why are we giving this guy any
more attention?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, Well, they do end up throwing this.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Baptism. Was it a baptism or was it just a party?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I wasn't quite sure. In Taylor's death, you know, at
her parents' house and he prayed for everybody and it
was sweet, and Dakota wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It's like, come on, buddy, just show up. Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, And then we get to the end where Taylor
and Chase go to dinner and I'm like, why, why
is this happening?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Do you think that he asked Taylor for a kiss
for old time sake? It's like, that is the last.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Thing a that either one of you guys should do.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But she's in a better place, So I think that
one was probably a storyline that was created with the
help of the producers, is my Yeah. I think I
ought ever have done that, or Taylor would have agreed
to that, Which is why I also think even back
(25:09):
in the episodes prior with even Again, I here we go,
bring Hi up again, Marciana and Jesse, like him bringing
the flowers or him going there, that get I feel
like those things were producer manipulated.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I agree with that, but I was just like, no,
it isn't that kind of breaking girl code too?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Miranda was married to Chase, right.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, their girl code is
very blurried.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It's like they're the only people that live in Utah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
They just all date each other. Yeah, I mean Benny
Hardy kissed, they've already kissed.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Well, were they talking about the shower too?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, they were part of the swinging couple, you know,
so I can't. I can't with these That was.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
The whole and that was why it was hard for
Taylor and Miranda because of their the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
But oh god, well that's it. That's a season finale.
We'll just breeze through the reunion.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were you disappointed because I truly I was so excited.
I even put like a cow like alert like reunion.
I was so excited, and I was so underwhelmed, and
I'm like, when are they going to get to it?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's just so underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But they also agreed though, I feel like everybody on
the cast said like, hey, we hear you. We also
were very disappointed with that thirteen hour at it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
That was crap.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So first reunion they had, nick, second reunion they had stassy.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Did you think job. Oh yeah, o, yes, yeah, I'm
like Nick. I like Nick too, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I watched the READI I didn't watch all the show
like I watched the reunion, but I think I think
Nick is good because he did drum up some of
the drama, yeah, as opposed to just keeping it girl friendly.
And I think Stuce is great, but I do like,
you want someone that kind of goes I don't know,
(27:09):
but did you to then get the other people and
it's not like I'm it's not like we're looking for
cat fights, but we do want a little bit of drama.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We want a little bit of the right. Yeah, yeah, no,
I agree. It makes a good show.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think that Nick did a better job, that's for sure. Sorry, Stussy,
I think that's a really hard shoes to fill. You know,
when it comes to reunions, it's started on Housewife. Andy
Cohen is amazing at it, so good at it. So
anytime there any show has a reunion like this, it
just never compares. First of all, I don't think they
(27:44):
need a reunion because of the fact that they film
non stop and half the stuff they can't even really
talk about, and they're.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Taught such about it because oh, we can't. And it's like, well,
then why are you here?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Why are we doing this? Yeah, I just don't think
that it's a smart thing to do. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And then they can give us a little bit more stuff,
that's the thing. Unless they can give more teak till
season three.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's like, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Just yeah, she said that so many times, and it's
many times. You can't like the Marciano of it all.
They couldn't really talk about it in the last reunion
because they were filming it for this next season coming.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's almost like they should have their reunion when it
is completely done.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah. I just don't think they need a reunion. And
I'm curious to see after the both reunions not doing
that well that or maybe they did.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The ratings, just I hear the backlash of people saying
they didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And then plus it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm a big I'm a big like Love is Blind
reunion people, I like those because you know that that's
it's done.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
After that done, right, so they have to say all
the stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, And then it was very like promotional like the
dunkin donuts, Like here we are, I'm going to go
over to the Dunkin.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Donut bar and I'm going to get myself a drink.
We get it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Wait, can I just have like one piece of clarity?
Is Jen actually related to Ben? I've never understood that.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well. I don't think we know.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's right up there with the Marciano thing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, She's in the Duncan commercial with Ben, I know,
which is just funny.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That is funny that it was a un idea and
it's like, Jen, who's not an actress, has more lines
than Ben all he is in the in the drive
through lane and he's like rude, rude.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's funny. And they don't even drink coffee apparently, and they.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Probably don't even They probably weren't there at the same time,
right filming that commercial probably filmed totally two different areas differently.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, right, unless she flew to Los Angeles where he's at.
I didn't. I don't know. I didn't see any pictures
of them.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, but but your your peep said no, so no,
I guess they're not. And of course who comes out
as the bar tender is Chase or the Duncan for emotion.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I know, Chase and then his brother, which again I
think they're cute. They are the brother, the brother. I'm Layla.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, Layla and Mason like they're cute together. Mason is
like his long hair.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, I think he's really cute, and I think they're
really cute together.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And I think they're still together. Layla and Mason like that.
I like that too.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I just hope that Mason isn't using her eye for
show's purposes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Doesn't he seem really sweet though? He does? I know,
he seems really sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't think what.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
He wore was very sweet. His blad I don't remember.
Tank top, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't think any man should wear a tank top.
That's not like in the heat of the summer.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like, you know, like the Haines tank top.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, my husband calls them ves tank tops, but
really that's what we should call it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's a cute even.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Though where's your husband from Scotland?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, oh yeah, she's Scottish. Scottish? She should he should
go on traders, sure, sure, go for it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So then it got a little sad and a little
dark at the reunion Michaela opens up about her relationship
and says that she and Jay still haven't gotten over
their intimacy issues. And then through therapy, Jesse uncovered the
memory of getting raped at nineteen, which now she's having
intimacy issues with Jordan.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And it's just like, it's just so hard.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's so much that these girls are talking about and
they've gone through and they're all crying and then what
then then the Marciano of it all, it's like, you know,
what was what was Hulu thinking?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Pretty much?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I sound around these girls exactly. I think the piece
that makes me sad is a lot of people that
I saw were saying like, how do you how do
you just randomly uncover the memory of getting raped? And
it's like, listen, how people manage and deal with trauma
and how they store it and deal with it. It
(32:22):
might be different from somebody else, you know, but to just.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, then people also block out memories that they don't
want to remember, me traumatic things.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, yeah, so I mean I would never so brave
have heard question somebody like that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So all the guys come out except for Brett, which
I didn't quite understand that Demi's husband.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Because he's not a part of dad talk, so he's
like he's basically the old dad, you know what I mean,
They're just like they need to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
With dad talk. They need to stop with that. I
don't need dad talk. I wanted to be about the moms,
just like, yeah, do that, I would.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I hope they stay on the storyline of the mom
talk they're going to. I think they'll lose a lot
of women if they go too heavy in dad talk.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, what which feels too forced? It's so forced.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
What did you think about the unseen footage of Marciano
and Jesse talking?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Do you remember that? Like she asked him, She.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Asked him, did did do you think we had sex?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And he said yes, if you have to ask, then
there's reasonable doubt, right in a cordial all right, I
mean I don't know if there's not a I mean, listen,
in my twenties, I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like, did I have?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But that is like years twenty plus years ago, right, questioning?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Maybe something? Is it that they were drinking and they're
not supposed to drink. But I know she drinks, doesn't
she drink? I think she drinks? But he also said
he took like a viya or that night too, Yeah,
in earlier episodes, So I'm confused.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I don't know, but her husband is right there, cialis
that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And then she's like was.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Telling him that she loved him, And I'm like, how
long did this emotional affair go on? Like when I
thought about the Marciano of it all, I instantly thought
it was Marciano and Demi.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yes, and really what happened with them was really nothing. Yeah,
it really there's a lot to this Jesse and Marciano stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think Jesse was so unhappy in her marriage that
and I'll say this, when someone is so unhappy in
their marriage and they it's whether sober or not. People
can do stupid things and still not mean them. So
I think she probably I still think there's a little
bit more to maybe what happened, but there's no way
(34:54):
that maybe she can even wrap hermind her on it
because she's just, you know again, kind of pushing it down.
But and maybe that's that's all there is. But I
do think people when they're so unhappy, it doesn't make
it right. And whether they did or they didn't, it
was inappropriate, bottom line, So does it At the end
of the day really matter physicality of what it was.
I don't think so when you step a line, you
(35:15):
step a line.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean that's just me.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Some people know it's it's only bad it they if
they actually had sex. I'm like, no, it's not words,
Like my ex could have had sex with so many people,
But if he said he loved someone, that was it for.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Me, right, I think an emotional affair is way worse.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Than just one hundred People do not get that. Like
my husband, I would never he like, he's like, what
do you mean? But I was like, it doesn't matter
if he said he loved her, done, done. The emotional
is so much more impactful to me.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, Well Dakota shows up to the reunion. Now do
you think Wait back to the Marciano thing. I had
a question.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Stossy said that the guys were in Italy.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, but again, we don't know until season three so
it actually happened.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
So it's the next season, the next season, So why
would they send the guys right back into the situation
and send Jesse's husband Jordan to be around Marciano?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You know why? I mean, God, why do you want
good TV? Because I want to watch it, and you
know why they did that.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I couldn't imagine any guy that went through that'll be like, yes,
that sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm going to go and hang out with a guy
that my wife was camera. No on camera, give us
the drama.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean as a viewer, yeah, I want to see it,
but I'm like, that is no crazy crazy. Do you
think Dakota coming to the reunion and all all the
girls had to leave? Do you think that that was
a Taylor's idea, like she didn't want to be sitting
in the same room as him, or his idea.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I think it could be a little bit of both,
but I bet you it was more him. I think
it was probably him not wanting to face all of that, yeah,
than her, because I think she's she's a strong girl
like she I think she's she's very forgiving, she's very
(37:16):
she's smart and she's forgiving, and I think she's really
strong and she can go like all right, yeah whatever,
it didn't didn't work. Yeah, but I don't think she's
I don't see her as the type to be like,
I can't be in the same room as you.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I just don't Well, actually, it says He said that
he's only attendant of the girls are backstage, but it
didn't really work out because Taylor couldn't take much of it.
Sitting backstage listened to his bullshit, and She's like, I'm
going out there. I'm going out there. And then one
of the girls followed her. Right, yeah, I went right
out there and sat with her. And then the first
(37:50):
thing he says to her is you look pretty.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's like, what we should just don't talk to her.
Don't such a mister big comment. I know, you're so
shut up.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, So they go round and round, and then Taylor's
parents came out.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They had jeans and black T shirts on. Everybody's dressed
up guys.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But if they walked out in a full on gown,
I feel like people would say, oh, they're not the stars.
It's like, I don't think they could have won in
any any way.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Maybe a blouse. I don't just write, I know, slack
slat of something. They were like, they were dressed the same.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Right, yeah, But again, I do think if people would
have come at them if they were.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
All bound up. Maybe I don't know, but you know,
he tried.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He attempted to apologize to them, after he was so
heated and he felt like it wasn't fair because he
was emotional, and then Leanne gets emotional, and then Jeremy
says he can't accept anything that comes out of Coda's mouth. Yeah,
and we just kind of leave it like that, And
I mean, I'm curious to see if Dakota will be
(39:04):
back next season.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think he deserves a paycheck if he's not getting one,
and I would like to see him back because I
do want to root for people, especially people like a Dakota,
the underdog stories of it. I would love to see
growth and change with him, and I would love to
see him happy and in a relationship and healing and
(39:28):
doing the work.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
And I can do it. I really think I can
do it.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And I think anybody can if they want to, and
if they can own up to their mistakes and stop
blaming other people. I think that's the easy route with
a lot of I you know, for what women and men.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I just think he's a guy that can't be alone,
and I think he really wants to be a tailor
and he wants his family back together. But then when
some girl slides in and he's down and out and
he's like here, you know, we got to know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We talked about this a little bit earlier, but he
was sending her pictures as well.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, he was sending her pictures and shocked that this
girl's face has.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Not come out. You know, there's some shady friend or something.
It's like, here she is. This is where all we
know is.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
She goes to the gym, because what was it? Chase
saw her at the gym. She's friends with Leanne and
that's all we really know. But you know, he stormed
out of there. He took his clothes off so fast,
he took that mic off, and he's like, I'm out.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And I'm like, oh yeah, I think everybody has said
that on the show.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh I have I did it. How many times have
you said you're done? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Well, BALI was probably my first time. I just I
was going through a horrible time, is going through a divorce.
My husband was trying to do, you know, take custody
away with no merit whatsoever, Like it was just and
I just couldn't take it, and I'm like, I'm done.
And then this season was super hard for me to
film because two weeks after starting, Teddy got diagnosed, and
(41:00):
it's just like, none of this really makes sense when
you have a friend that's going through a really hard time.
It's like, I'd rather be there with my friend than
scream and yell and fight with girls on National teav
It just didn't well.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Puts things into perspective exactly. That's what a lot of
this is. And what we forget is that. And again,
I am not in the reality world as you like you,
but I watch it as a TV show, and what
I think a lot of people forget is that this
is your actual life. You're not playing a script from
the pages like this. This is your life. And so
(41:36):
I think that is where the difference for us viewers,
because we come at you like you're our favorite character
or our most hated character. But yet these people are
going through things and what is you know, what's it
worth at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, I mean, you can go through things and have
supportive friends that are there for you and get through it.
But if you're going through these things and then you
have people coming at you, you're like, I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
I don't emotionally have the energy to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Crap.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, that's why I'm not moving to Beverly Hills and
being on the real heard.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I actually heard that Teddy's the one that gave your name.
She gave my name years ago. Oh really, like years.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And years and years ago to be like a friend
of hers on the show. But now they've called again,
and that's what I'm like, I don't live there.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
What Oh wow, Wow, I think they should do one
where you're at now.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I think that they've talked about it off and on,
but I think.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That they should do it so many times they have.
But would you do it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Then?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, I don't. Again, No, I don't have box. I
can't do it. I caldn't do it. Would your husband
do it? He actually talked to the OC back in
the way day, like what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
He was friends with his ex wife was friends with
someone and they had I think briefly talked to someone
about maybe doing.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It way back in the day. Is this X in
Orange County not anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Would I have known her known her?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I don't know. I don't think so. But one of
the one of the wives do huh? Interesting? Yeah, but
that is interesting. Fun fact.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Fun fact that which wouldn't have been just another divorce
on reality TV.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, but anyways, thank you so much. It was so
fun getting to know you a little bit. And I
hope you have the Squaliday.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Hope you yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, So thanks guys for tuning in. And that's it
for the season. I don't know when the next season
comes out, but I'm sure it's soon. They're They're like
a well oiled machine over there that at Hulu.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So bye, guys,
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