June 6, 2025 • 38 mins
Is Demi at the point of no return?! She gets vulnerable in New Orleans and we feel for her, but can it cancel out the rest of her season?!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Too Cheese and
a Pod with Teddy mellon Camp and Tambora Judge.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, they're hi, tam.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I can't believe I almost wore your same cupa salty
hat today, But I know.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Where we got that. We got that from our favorite
boutique in San Clemente.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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an online store. This isn't even an ad. It's just
to have the cutest, most comfy stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I think all the girls in most see go there,
all of them are the ones that live in South
Orange County.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And what is south? What is North Orange County?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I think like more towards like Anahei and Bria, those
are like North Orange County. But we're like way south,
you know. Okay, Newport's even you know, farther away from us,
like thirty minutes, but we're like, it's basically it's me,
Gina and Emily.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, it's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I over here, Yeah, that's what I and Jen. Jen
lives over here too.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Jen lives over there too. Oh, yeah, all right. Well,
we are recapping episodes eight and nine of Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives. It starts out where Taylor presents an
award at the CMAS. Taylor posts about her experience and
no mom talk, no one in mom talk comments Okay,
this I found very bizarre, this entire exchange in what
(01:34):
way because I sat there like, honestly team Taylor, like
I'm going, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, she just took it too far. I think, you know,
Like I mean, I I hate to tell you, Demi,
but Taylor might be the fan favorite, less the CMA's
favorite because she was invited to present and you were not.
But the girls not commenting on Taylor's post kind of
(02:04):
says it all.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think there was, But does it say it all
if they got a text message, if they were texting her, Like,
I gotta be really honest with you. I believed, like
I understand Taylor being upset until the girls half of
the girls were like, well we message you, we were
texting you all.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's where she lost me. Just seeing the scene, I'm like,
oh my god, they're so jealous they wouldn't comment. And
then when as it goes on, we find out that
the girls are texting her privately and showing, you know,
showing their support, and does she kind of asshole to
do that?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah? Well, I mean it also shows that these are
like definitely real world problems, like who's the most jealous
because they're getting something exciting that's going to promote their show.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I could see that making some girl, especially at
that age, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
True, Well, I only been.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
On this is only their second season, and now she's
out there, you know, presenting at the CMA. That's a
big deal deal. And she was very humble.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
About it until she got pissed, until she wasn't. But
I have a question for you, would you note would
you care more? Let's say something good happened to you.
Would you care more if I sent you a text
message and said like, oh my gosh, you crushed it today,
Or if I commented on your Instagram because I don't
notice when you comment on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I am here to tell you that I need the
social media support, I need the love. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I think that if you say something to somebody directly,
it's a bigger impact than you know, saying it on
social media, especially if it's a close friend. Like if
it's my close friend, of course I'm going to post
for them on social media. But I'm also before I
do that, I'm going to reach out and say happy birthday,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
All those things. But some people, do you think she
wanted to repost or she just wanted to comment, because
to me, she said she just wanted to comment. I
have I don't care. Well, it is all about it
is kind of somebody wants to repost, like my picture
doing something and saying, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
(04:16):
I would probably notice that, but somebody comment I think
Kattie wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I think the bottom line is how often do these
girls comment? Are they on social media all the time,
which I think they are. They're probably commenting on every
other picture that she posts immediately, So I would be like,
that's a little sus like, why are you not commenting
when I'm doing something so amazing? Are you jealous?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hey? Jealousy, hey jealousy? Who sings that song? Do you
remember it from like the nineties?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I may asking me, I can't even I can't. I
don't know who sings anything. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Either way, then Mikayla and Macy go over to Demi's house.
Macey wonders why Taylor wouldn't just text them. Demi thinks
Taylor is a liability to Mom Talk. The Mom Talk
girls are getting attacked on social media because of what
Taylor said. So Taylor essentially went public about nobody writing
(05:15):
anything on her thing and made it seem like none
of the girls supported her, which I think some of
the girls were legitimately upset because it made Mom Talk
look fake. I think Demi was legitimately upset because she
wasn't asked.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Demi is so jealous of Taylor at this point, at
least that's she's making herself look like that. You know,
I threw around after watching the entire season. Is it
editing or is this woman just insanely negative and jealous?
Have not? I mean, especially of Taylor, But I think
(05:52):
when it comes down to it, everybody in the cast's.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
She's been terrible to everyone. I mean, I get the book,
but I don't understand how this makes her a liability.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She's like a mom Talk like come on to me,
but it's not that deep. But what is it about Utah,
Salt Lake City and then now Warm and Wives? They
literally film a scene in their car going through a
drive through.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Because that's what they everybody eats around there, Like we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't even don't eat over here.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, yes, but we also don't. I don't have a
ton of drive throughs near my house.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I mean I do.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't have an in and out that's like ten
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, I like in and out, and that's probably the
only fast food drive through I would go through. But
I mean, I'll go through a Starbucks once in a while.
But I gotta believe, like Swig or whatever they're paying for,
they're paying big advertiser dollars, just like, yeah, that's why
they're doing a whole scene of them driving through. It's
like product placement, just like when they did with Windy's
on Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And what I want to know, huh, Because I know
that this show is number what number one on Honlulu?
I want to know what those numbers are based on,
like going number one on Peacock.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, it's yeah, I would too. I I don't know
anything about Hulu, but I also know that they very
seldom release streaming numbers.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, but I have really come to the terms that
I don't like when people drop an entire season, like
I don't either our other new favorite show A Bad
Sisters or The Better Sister or The Worst Sister or
whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh my god, I stayed up late last night.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Watching Do not tell me because I'm behind.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I'm not going to tell you, but it is so good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, listen to this, and yes, season two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It was somebody I suspected from the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I will cut you if you say I'm not going
to tell you, I'm not going to say. Honestly, I
will never comment on another.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
There's so many twists and turns it's not even funny.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But okay, so I just read this. The season two
from of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives hit five
million views in its first five days of streaming on Hulu.
That's a lot. That's a lot you have today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But it's also the entire season, so some people might
people just sit and watch, like the entire season on
one shot. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh, the entire season hit five million views or of
one episode? By one episode, I.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Don't, I don't know, hit five million views in its
first five days, So five days, so there's just not
out there there. Yeah, they've been bench watching it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Okay. So Atlanta season sixteen premiere aired on March ninth
and brought in a total two point five million, But
that's one.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Episode point so yeah, so there you go. There's your answer. Yep,
not as many as Bravo or Peacock.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Correct as well. We're just guessing. We don't know. We're
still fine with the job. Hulu if you want us, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but Hulu, if you want to hire, if.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can, we'll do our st hit five million will
cause some kind of problems anyways. Then Mikayla and Macy
pick up Taylor to talk about the social media situation.
Mikayla brings up the questions of what's more important social
media support or private support. We already talked about this.
Then Macey and her husband Jacob arrive in San Diego
(09:21):
to do frozen embryo transfer. As we watched the rest
of the season, this entire portion made me emotional because.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I did IVF right and I don't know anything about IVF.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But after.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
After that, how long does it take for the IVF
transfer to know if it worked or not?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Same is like if you were to have sex, Oh,
really yes, because if they're putting it in you, it's
the same as like if you were having penetration.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And but it depends on the timing, right, Like I
mean they.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have to time it the same way if you're ovulating
or if you're not that. Yeah, so it's the same thing.
So I think you find out you're pregnant like twelve
days after you're pregnant if you take like a blood test.
But I could be wrong, but I from my memory,
I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Like she's like, it's been nine days, let's take the test.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So maybe it was nine days. I mean, I can't
remember a weekend for mine, so that's why I remembered
it being more. Then, Layla and Taylor are in New
York City doing a brand deal.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Can I ask you a question? Was that a very
small plane to fly New.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
York in Let me tell you an answer. I don't
care what size private plane it is. I'm happy to
take it for a brand deal, and no one's offered
it that.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm like, what that actual hell they are? They are
taking private planes to do brand deals. It's insanity.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Why didn't they tell us what? And also who? You
didn't tell us who the brand was? So does that
mean that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That brand is not getting any attention on this Hulu?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because I don't know what they were doing. I also,
they weren't even glam for most of it. I was confused.
And then where did all their makeup go on the
plane ride home?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, they're young, they just take it off.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They take it off, and then they're going to redo
it for the event when they get there. I know,
I know. But Layla has strong opinions during this and
reads a bunch of text messages.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh my god. Do you think that that was a
dick move on her part to do that? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I thought it was a dick move once we found
out that she wasn't going to actually have her back.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I just feel like when you do something like that,
like you're really like she's friends with the other girls.
That's what's crazy to me, and she's involved in that.
Is she trying to protect her ass or is she
one of those girls Layla that she's really good friends with,
a friend she's with.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think she's big balls.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, she had big balls to show Taylor those because
there was.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
No one that was going to be mad at her
in that moment.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, but she had to know that it's going to
come up.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, I think she you know how some people get
real pumped up to stir the shit and then once
they stir it, then they're like, oh fuck and they
run away.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
She was like deer in the headlights, Like later on
I'm like, oh shit, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So Demi responded to Taylor's apology saying she doesn't accept
her apology and goes on about why she doesn't, and
then Demi texted Layla asking her how much she was
making on the brand photoshoot. Layla then tells Taylor she
will stand up for her at the Saint and the
(12:50):
Center's party, which we know does not happen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, So Demi is that jealous friend that wants to
know how much everybody's getting paid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But if you and I got this same deal, sometimes
I think, yes, I'm not standing up for Demi in
this point, Like I think she asked out of jealousy
ways because she wasn't asked. But if we both got somebody,
so let's say Canada dry yeah not through the pod
reached out and asked gave us both an offer. I
would say to you, hey, Tam, how much you're making
(13:21):
for this, so I can't, but I wouldn't never.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But they're not doing the same deal. That's the thing.
It's like, it's like if somebody gets asked to do
something for Bravo, it's like, how much did you get paid?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You know? I know, it's only if you're doing the
same deal around the same time, and then it's like,
am I getting dicked and you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And it's also the way she worded it too, like
she actually I don't know. I just thought it was
just like.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The entire thing. This is not a good no matter what,
this is not a good season for dem No, it's
not no longer fan favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But was she actually a fan favorite last year? Because
she thinks I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Think she was the fan I don't. I think Taylor
has always been the fan favorite. But I think everyone
loved her. She was like the breakout really yeah. Then
we find out Macy's pregnant. She takes her pregnancy test
on camera. Then Whitney and Demi run into show.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A question really quick.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, he takes that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
They look, they read it, whatever they did in the kitchen,
and then is a pan out. There's a life size
picture of Jesus walking on water in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that what that was? I didn't notice it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I didn't know if it was Jesus or if it
was like Kristen's boyfriend Luke from the Valley. I'm like
that not even Luke.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You have to say, uh, the guy that wore the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, Aaron, Aaron, but he had like the scruff and
the I'm and he's I mean, it was like life
size in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How did I not notice? So? I don't know. I
think it might be because I watched this a long
time ago. Oh maybe, but then you know, they then
we're up back at jay Z Styles hair salon, and.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I like that name, jay z Styles, jay Zy Styles.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I want to go. As soon as I have enough
hair to attach some extensions to. I want to go
to Jesse.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think I had her extensions in my hair when
I filmed all season. Really yes, because I went to
somebody new I had my hair done, Jill. She's amazing
down in San Clemente, and she put I was. I
went to her for the first time during the season
and she put in her hair extensions and I'm like, oh,
what brand is it? And She's like Oh, it's a
(15:40):
girl from TikTok that we order from. It has to
be right, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Mean, let's just assume and give her her props, yeah,
or as Cynthia always says, give her her flowers hours.
Why that always sticks out in my head. But they
bond overall feeling the same way. And then then we're
on the flight back. Layla is trying to be the
producer's pet, as we know, but she's trying to potstr
(16:09):
but it's, you know whatever. Then we get to the
Saint Center's party, Taylor comes in. Taylor is not gonna
take this laying down because she's wearing the biggest freaking
wings I've ever.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, she brings the coat of her backup and six
foot angel wings and she's like, no one's gonna fuck
with me, and you know what, and she dressed like
an angel, which is smart.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, it was smart. I hate to give you a compliment,
but there are parts of her that remind me of you.
It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Say that, because I think the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Sometimes I'm watching her and she says certain things and
I'm like, is this fucking mini Tana Judge. She could
be my baby tam or Judge. This is the Tamara
Judge's daughter that we've instead of being been affles relative like.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Lost daughter. Yeah, that's her and her facial expressions too,
like in her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I don't give a fuck, but I do give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Is also my favorite back and she'll let people push
her so far and it's like, no, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then the you know, they go into the back room
to talk at the party, everybody looks pretty good. Jesse, Demi,
and Taylor start going at each other quite immediately. Layelah
doesn't say a single word Miranda.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
She just sat there. I'm like, say something, say something.
She was like deer in the headlights.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But why in the world would Miranda Miranda Miranda?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know what I have to say about Randa, I
feel like she kind of dies off the last part
of the season.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I don't think we're going to see Miranda again. I
think she's really cute, I think, I mean, I think
she's beautiful, but I don't think we're going to see
her season three.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
As my guess, well, I think they voted her not
to be in the mom talk at the end, right,
I mean, did they really get to vote. I don't know,
we need to talk about that because I'm so so
I have been confused about this forever. But we'll get
there and we'll get out of myself.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But then, you know, of course, Demi takes it too far.
She starts bashing Taylor's relationship with Dakota, which is what
it is, but then she brings her parenting into it
and brings in ever.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But when she did that, I'm like, that's almost like
you're disgusting. You're discussing your bitch and Demi is playing checkers.
Why Taylor is definitely playing chess, because Taylor's just.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like, go ahead, keep talking, and then you know what,
Taylor late, I'm not going on the cast trip, which
made the cast trip a fucking snooze fest, which is
why Demi had to break down to a ten. Well,
but that was a stupid, fucking game. But we'll get there.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was, But how many times do we have to
hear them say, mom talk is about supporting women, and
I don't feel like we're supporting I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
My god, it's like housewives are like, I hate the drama.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I hate I hope there's no drama on this trip.
Let's make it fun.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Let's let's do a healing trip. Healing healing, Oh my god,
it's not gonna happen. So episode nine, Episode nine, Macy
goes over to Jesse's house and talks about their upcoming
trip trip to New Orleans, where they debate if it's
New Orleans or New Orleans, what do.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You well, it's New Orleans, I believe. And I'll have
to tell you this is my life all season long, because, uh,
you know, obviously everybody knows we went there, and I
had to struggle New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans, Nola, Nola.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Know what, I can assume you didn't have a meal
the way that the Mormon Secret Lives of Mormon wives.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't think you got a delicious.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I know, homemade meals. But we did get some
good meals. But I I feel like I've seen the
New Orleans airport too many times in the past four months,
between me and you and me and the cast, and
now this, I'm like, when I saw that they went,
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh that was New Orleans. Was the last place I
went before I was tumor Teddy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yes, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh my god, Well, what a making of medical conditions
and whatnot. These viewers clocking thyroid problems better than actual
healthcare providers.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know that this isn't the first time of viewer
has done that, So what is another time? There was
Terrek from that flipping show el Most I don't know
how to spread he ended up with thyroid cancer. Then
Denise Richards, somebody on on Viewer Nurse Something detected that,
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and then the host of Inside Edition are think Deborah,
she also had thyroid cancer, and it was all like
a fan saying, hey, you should go have that checked out.
I didn't notice anything, you know. I mean, you have
to really be trained, I guess because I didn't notice
anything on her neck.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean, sometimes I think it's incredible like in this instance.
But sometimes I mean I've gotten so many messages of
people that have said things to me that don't actually
know when it comes to doctor stuff, and it sends
me over the edge. But this is where it's pretty
incredible how observant somebody is and how they could change
a life and potentially save a life by letting them
(21:38):
know that. Guys. But if you're listening, guys, if you
don't actually know, or if you're not trained in this
in some way, it's probably not the best to be
giving out your medical opinions because it could just cause paranoia.
(22:00):
Guess what. They arrive in New Orleans and there's another
party bus.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Another party bus.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here they go. Layla says she feels bad for not
standing up for Taylor at the Saints and Center's party. Well,
there's not even the coming.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You should look what you've done. I mean you when
it happened, you were chicken shit and you wouldn't say
a word after you told Taylor you gave her her
you know your word that you would. And now guess what,
Taylor's not on the trip, probably afraid she's afraid to
go that she might hurt DEMI.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think she's afraid. I think she's seriously. I
think that was her way of saying, Bam, bitches, I'm
the main girl, and you try to make a show
without me. And then they realized they all had to
do some work, and they were like, well, this sucks
because then we've got dirty to me who's just done
herself in like her projection. When even it comes like
(22:55):
we haven't seen gin in weeks, I feel like and
how eating dinner they get a video from Jin Jin,
tells them that she just came out of therapy and
that she's struggling, going into a dark place. She shares
that she's been hurting and apologies for hurting any of them.
She says she needs to stay home and take care
of herself, and Demi says she doesn't want to tell
Jen anything anymore. The girls think to me as being
(23:16):
a little harsh considering what she's going on.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Okay, okay, so all the girls were like so sympathetic
and totally understood. Of course, Demi did not disappoint. She's consistent.
She sucks the energy out of every scene in the
last three episodes. Her negativity like why can't you just say, oh,
I feel sorry for her, I hope she's getting the
help she needs or whatever. But again she's like, eh,
(23:41):
just nasty towards her.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Especially when we know what's coming with all the whole
pregnancy stuff and how upset she got. She knows that
Jen is struggling, I know, with just getting pregnant. She
knows this information and she's still being an ass.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, did you notice Mikayla basically admitted that producers were
expecting to blow up because she's like, oh wow, now
that Taylor isn't here, who's going to.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Get into it? Who? My favorite is?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Mikayla.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I like Mikayla.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I like too, I like Jesse, I like Mikayla, and
I like Macy. So pretty much, I'm the general. And
guess what. I like Whitney. I told you you were
gonna like Whitney. I like Whitney. But she needs to
do more now that she's gotten her vote back into
mom talk. I need more.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I need her to step up.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
She does a lot on social media. She was I
do and I fell and I looked at her tiktoks.
I think her tiktoks are.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Amazing because I think she's a good dancer.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
She's a really good dancer. And it's funny because they
talk about this is mom talks about supporting each other
or supporting moms or women or whatever, but their tiktoks
or bashing. They're in the vigil. Tiktoks are usually bashing.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So that's the whole point. That's what they're all fighting about.
Because that's originally not how it started. Well that's how
it's going well because then it became a television show
about drama. Then the girls go to a burlesque show
in New Orleans. I also want to add in that
it's fine for vagina joints in the LDS community, just
not coffee.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Or alcohol. Ketymine and Thhc's totally.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Fine, totally fine. Well, then Taylor goes over to her parents'
house to talk about her talk with her mom and sister.
Taylor explains that Demi brought up a saint at Sinners
was a bad point in her life and it hurt her,
and Taylor's mom reminds her that she started mom talk.
I wish all the girls had heard this kind of discussion.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean Taylor seemed very humble, even when her
mom said that like you started it, you're the whatever,
and she's like, you know, don't say that. But she's
very very humble, and I love that about her.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I think she just I think Taylor needs a good friend.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, the other girls are basically ariston. When I say
other girls, Demi's basically saying she doesn't know how to
be a friend.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think she does. But she also has three little kids.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I think she's like a lot like me, Like
I'll have a couple of really good friends, but in
a like a big group setting, Like I don't push
myself to get super close to people.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But they haven't really shown many one on one scenes
with They always show it with her family.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, that's true. They show her family more than anything.
Is it because her mom wants to be a housewife?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I don't know. She makes good TV at this point,
then Mom Talk arrives back at the New Orleans house
and catches up on the couch. Layla asked me if
she can ever see herself being friends of Taylor again.
She says no, and then Layla has another brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Do you think Demi's that girl that tries to turn
everybody against.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
The girl that she hates at the moment, Yes, she's
done it multiple times. I think we're on the fourth person.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like exhausting, Like I you know, I would never
tell you who to be friends with, and I would
never listen right right, And just because like you can't
you don't do that to somebody. It's not my choice,
your choice to be like, Okay, since you don't like her,
I'm not going to be friends with her.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And and truthfully, to me, you have this big of
a problem leave.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But I think a narcissist does that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Allegedly narcissists. It's interesting that you would say that word,
because that's what Mean keeps calling Taylor.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It takes one to know one. I don't think that
the Taylor's a narciss at all. She's narciss has an
inflated opinion on themselves and think like they're so much
better than everybody. Taylor has the opposite.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think she's an introvert.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
She needs self esteem, she needs she doesn't feel good
about herself. I feel like she's still blaming herself for
the whole swinging scandal, and she it still bothers her
that she did that, and I don't know that would
not be like that now in the show, that's how
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they should be kissing her ass.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Granted, they may have had a lot of TikTok followers before,
but that's what got the show started. It's not that
they were all good dancers on the Tiktoks.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Now, who do you think had the idea to play
pregnancy Roulette? Because I got to believe the producers knew
two of the girls were pregnant.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I got to believe that if that was Layla's idea,
I'll run myself over with my car because I.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Do know not her idea. I think it was Producers
because had they not known two girls were pregnant, they
would have never played this game.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, but this is another instance of Leila.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
They they could have gotten better tests other than Walgreen pregnant.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Because they didn't, well, they didn't want. They must have
tried to make a deal with what's the pregnancy test
we all take? Could you imagine if they did this
on Housewives when everybody's already in menopause.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Clear blue. It's not a clear blue, so obviously like
if we all did these tests, we'd all, oh, it's
a real shock or noegnant. No, it's like, do they
have menopause tests? Like on the sticks you see who's
in menopause.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Let's see who still gets a period at way? I
still haven't gotten one since I went into the hospital.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, it's probably all the medication and stuff it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Makes your period stop. Well, or maybe I've hit that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Maybe is there any kind of like hormone blockers or
anything you're on?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, I think something like hot just seizure Medican medication. No, nothing,
I'm not on estrogen. I'm not on any hormones, but
maybe that's why. Maybe because I'm not I know for
sure I am not pregnant, so everyone doesn't need to
go there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And immune a therapy because I've heard like immun like
a chemotherapy, immune therapy, all these things. Can they put
you into menopause?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's why I don't know. I'm going to ask today.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I know that chemo can. I've heard somebody talk about
it before. I don't know. I mean, I'm just repeating
what I've heard, but that that could be it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's it's just weird because how many I mean, we're
almost at six months.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, when did we When did I go in oh
for February?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
February I already.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Wash. I on my period when we were in New Orleans. No, no,
I was not well. Then Leila continues this on and
then it honestly, I'm gonna I know we're going to
be skipping around, but this is where shit hits the fan.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well, yeah, so Demmi gets all emotional, she starts freaking out.
I mean, I know it's got to be upsetting, but
how did she know that maybe one of those pregnancy
tests were not hers if she's currently trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I think she went and took another one. I think
that's why she went in the bathroom. I think that's
what they were implying.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I mean, we obviously knew who was pregnant, because we
met with the girls and we interviewed them, and they
were pregnant when we interviewed them.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But I still don't you worry. I still wasn't smart
enough to figure out that Mikhael was the other one.
That was me too.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean at first, I'm like, wait, who's the other one?
And then they stopped the game and they all go
different directions, and Demmy goes off crying, and I'm like, wait,
we need to find out who it is. And of
course we did when mikaelin may seem meat and they
dressed like we knew Dynasty wives. You see there, Why
did they have their they still had the.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Stickers on there. They must have been doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
They had to have been, because I mean, I know,
like I've often seen, are those in style, those dummo pants, Well,
they are like a certain type of cameo pants. They're
camo pants hunting in Yeah, I don't pattern on him.
It's like hunting ones.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
But they also had the thing, Yeah, I don't know.
Oh my gosh, I have armpit sweat. Things are really
going well right now, minopause hot, but it's it's it's
going not well. And it's also not going well because
Taylor makes a decision to end things with Dakota for good,
which I think now we know that isn't actually accurate.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But she's kind of confusing because I.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Know you like Dakota. I do like Dakota.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I do like Dakota, but we don't really see a
lot of interaction and fighting this season with them. There's
not a lot like obviously she was arrested last year,
and now Taylor's family likes Dakota, and I'm like, so
I'm I'm like, I don't, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Think Dakota, especially after some of the clips see I'm
gonna believe whatever Macy says. That's the level I'm at
right now. And I saw Macy fighting with Dakota on
his Vile Files interview because he made some stuff up,
and I'm going to believe her. I believe Macy. I
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don't like Dakota, and I'm standing by that. Okay, even
though he's fooling us on the show because I'm liking
him on the show.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, I mean he comes across pretty sincere and good
with his son, and I don't know, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
A lot of people can come off good. I mean,
you and I can pretend to be likable for about
twenty minutes, I know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And it's always the one that acts on reality shows
that everyone's like, oh, they're so sweet, Oh do this,
and you're like, if you only knew, if you knew
when they go sightseeing in New Orleans, I knew exactly
where they were going. Cafe Dumont.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's what we waited in the line for no reason.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Oh Bert, Yes, but listen, do you know that Bronwyn
just sent me a picture of the three of us there.
I'll have to send it to you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh my gosh, send that to me.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And what are those little things that been been?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
The beignettes? Vignettes I think that's what they're called. But
those were so good. I mean, I feel bad that
I felt so terrible on that trip. I was so sick,
clearly because I had those giant tumors and had no idea,
because that would have been a really fun trip had
I not felt like somebody was poking my head with
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a million knives. All right, I guess we got to stay.
We got to stay on topic. But that was we
do need to go back, but they're sight seeing. Jesse
explains how hurt she is that Demi would be sending
people elsewhere and Jesse and to me talk while they're
at the market. I don't believe one thing Demi says
(34:47):
at this point.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Did you hear that conversation that the in the Mormon religion,
they believe that you're sealed to your very first husband
and then in the afterlife that's who you're going to
be with. I'm like, if so, if I was Mormon,
I'd be my afterlife would be with Ryan's dad, Darren
him att.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I guess we're sealed together for the eternity. I realized, like, wow,
what I haven't even spoke. Could you imagine if that
was the case? And I mean, how many years has
it been since you've even spoken to Ryan's dad?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I saw him at Ava's ninth birthday, But prior to that,
it's usually like if Ava has you know, has a
birthday party and he's there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You had you had a kid with him, but like
Matt for example, like I have not one bad thing
to say about him, but I probably haven't spoken to
him in fifteen years. But then I'm going to just
meet him in the afterlife and.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Tie together and say, here we are. It's you and me, baby,
remember when we were twenty to give you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
My gosh. I couldn't believe it. But then mom talk
goes to the vampire apothecary for dinner. I'm glad we
didn't go there. Jesse thinks that drinking blood is most
likely against the words of Mormon wisdom.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm pretty sure it wasn't blood, sweetie, But I love
they're all dressed like witches. We were all hour.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Chokers, but they all get virgin blood bags.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I know an ivy bag that was an ivy bag.
I'm like, that's kind of a cute idea. I mean,
I don't know where you buy ivy bags at.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And where you get vart ones right, like what's in there?
But Demi decides at this point she's going to tell
the group if Taylor's and that she is out. This
shocks the group and they think it's unfair for her
to say that. Do you want to know whoever comes
out well with an ultimatum, no one, no one, no
(36:50):
one person.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeh ever does well, but thank you Jesse. Like she's
the one that's like, stop holding a fucking grudge. He's
not holding a grudge, Like move on? Why can't you
move on? You know what, Demi, at this point, you're
the one that sounds like a psychotic child. I not Taylor.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You, I agree, And then you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Also what I also noticed and you probably did too.
When Demi mentioned that it's not the Taylor Show, it
showed me. It spoke like, so I can't even talk.
It showed me her jealousy towards Taylor. She showed her cards.
She thinks, oh my god, this is the Taylor show.
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That those are her words. I've never heard Taylor be like,
this is my show, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Taylor know, like when you have confident like granted, I
know that Taylor is struggling with some you know, personal
related things, but I think Taylor is very confident in
her place in the show, and Demi is not, and
she should not be because it's not looking good for her.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's not looking good for her at all, and it gets.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Even worse in the final episode. But we have to
close out because that's the end of this episode and
we will be back to talk about episode ten.
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we are recapping episodes eight and nine of Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives. It starts out where Taylor presents an
award at the CMAS. Taylor posts about her experience and
no mom talk, no one in mom talk comments Okay,
this I found very bizarre, this entire exchange in what
(01:34):
way because I sat there like, honestly team Taylor, like
I'm going, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, she just took it too far. I think, you know,
Like I mean, I I hate to tell you, Demi,
but Taylor might be the fan favorite, less the CMA's
favorite because she was invited to present and you were not.
But the girls not commenting on Taylor's post kind of
(02:04):
says it all.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think there was, But does it say it all
if they got a text message, if they were texting her, Like,
I gotta be really honest with you. I believed, like
I understand Taylor being upset until the girls half of
the girls were like, well we message you, we were
texting you all.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's where she lost me. Just seeing the scene, I'm like,
oh my god, they're so jealous they wouldn't comment. And
then when as it goes on, we find out that
the girls are texting her privately and showing, you know,
showing their support, and does she kind of asshole to
do that?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah? Well, I mean it also shows that these are
like definitely real world problems, like who's the most jealous
because they're getting something exciting that's going to promote their show.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I could see that making some girl, especially at
that age, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
True, Well, I only been.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
On this is only their second season, and now she's
out there, you know, presenting at the CMA. That's a
big deal deal. And she was very humble.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
About it until she got pissed, until she wasn't. But
I have a question for you, would you note would
you care more? Let's say something good happened to you.
Would you care more if I sent you a text
message and said like, oh my gosh, you crushed it today,
Or if I commented on your Instagram because I don't
notice when you comment on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I am here to tell you that I need the
social media support, I need the love. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I think that if you say something to somebody directly,
it's a bigger impact than you know, saying it on
social media, especially if it's a close friend. Like if
it's my close friend, of course I'm going to post
for them on social media. But I'm also before I
do that, I'm going to reach out and say happy birthday,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
All those things. But some people, do you think she
wanted to repost or she just wanted to comment, because
to me, she said she just wanted to comment. I
have I don't care. Well, it is all about it
is kind of somebody wants to repost, like my picture
doing something and saying, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
(04:16):
I would probably notice that, but somebody comment I think
Kattie wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I think the bottom line is how often do these
girls comment? Are they on social media all the time,
which I think they are. They're probably commenting on every
other picture that she posts immediately, So I would be like,
that's a little sus like, why are you not commenting
when I'm doing something so amazing? Are you jealous?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hey? Jealousy, hey jealousy? Who sings that song? Do you
remember it from like the nineties?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I may asking me, I can't even I can't. I
don't know who sings anything. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Either way, then Mikayla and Macy go over to Demi's house.
Macey wonders why Taylor wouldn't just text them. Demi thinks
Taylor is a liability to Mom Talk. The Mom Talk
girls are getting attacked on social media because of what
Taylor said. So Taylor essentially went public about nobody writing
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anything on her thing and made it seem like none
of the girls supported her, which I think some of
the girls were legitimately upset because it made Mom Talk
look fake. I think Demi was legitimately upset because she
wasn't asked.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Demi is so jealous of Taylor at this point, at
least that's she's making herself look like that. You know,
I threw around after watching the entire season. Is it
editing or is this woman just insanely negative and jealous?
Have not? I mean, especially of Taylor, But I think
(05:52):
when it comes down to it, everybody in the cast's.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
She's been terrible to everyone. I mean, I get the book,
but I don't understand how this makes her a liability.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She's like a mom Talk like come on to me,
but it's not that deep. But what is it about Utah,
Salt Lake City and then now Warm and Wives? They
literally film a scene in their car going through a
drive through.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Because that's what they everybody eats around there, Like we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't even don't eat over here.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, yes, but we also don't. I don't have a
ton of drive throughs near my house.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I mean I do.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't have an in and out that's like ten
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, I like in and out, and that's probably the
only fast food drive through I would go through. But
I mean, I'll go through a Starbucks once in a while.
But I gotta believe, like Swig or whatever they're paying for,
they're paying big advertiser dollars, just like, yeah, that's why
they're doing a whole scene of them driving through. It's
like product placement, just like when they did with Windy's
on Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And what I want to know, huh, Because I know
that this show is number what number one on Honlulu?
I want to know what those numbers are based on,
like going number one on Peacock.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, it's yeah, I would too. I I don't know
anything about Hulu, but I also know that they very
seldom release streaming numbers.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, but I have really come to the terms that
I don't like when people drop an entire season, like
I don't either our other new favorite show A Bad
Sisters or The Better Sister or The Worst Sister or
whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh my god, I stayed up late last night.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Watching Do not tell me because I'm behind.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I'm not going to tell you, but it is so good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, listen to this, and yes, season two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It was somebody I suspected from the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I will cut you if you say I'm not going
to tell you, I'm not going to say. Honestly, I
will never comment on another.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
There's so many twists and turns it's not even funny.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But okay, so I just read this. The season two
from of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives hit five
million views in its first five days of streaming on Hulu.
That's a lot. That's a lot you have today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But it's also the entire season, so some people might
people just sit and watch, like the entire season on
one shot. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh, the entire season hit five million views or of
one episode? By one episode, I.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Don't, I don't know, hit five million views in its
first five days, So five days, so there's just not
out there there. Yeah, they've been bench watching it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Okay. So Atlanta season sixteen premiere aired on March ninth
and brought in a total two point five million, But
that's one.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Episode point so yeah, so there you go. There's your answer. Yep,
not as many as Bravo or Peacock.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Correct as well. We're just guessing. We don't know. We're
still fine with the job. Hulu if you want us, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but Hulu, if you want to hire, if.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can, we'll do our st hit five million will
cause some kind of problems anyways. Then Mikayla and Macy
pick up Taylor to talk about the social media situation.
Mikayla brings up the questions of what's more important social
media support or private support. We already talked about this.
Then Macey and her husband Jacob arrive in San Diego
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to do frozen embryo transfer. As we watched the rest
of the season, this entire portion made me emotional because.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I did IVF right and I don't know anything about IVF.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But after.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
After that, how long does it take for the IVF
transfer to know if it worked or not?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Same is like if you were to have sex, Oh,
really yes, because if they're putting it in you, it's
the same as like if you were having penetration.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And but it depends on the timing, right, Like I
mean they.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have to time it the same way if you're ovulating
or if you're not that. Yeah, so it's the same thing.
So I think you find out you're pregnant like twelve
days after you're pregnant if you take like a blood test.
But I could be wrong, but I from my memory,
I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Like she's like, it's been nine days, let's take the test.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So maybe it was nine days. I mean, I can't
remember a weekend for mine, so that's why I remembered
it being more. Then, Layla and Taylor are in New
York City doing a brand deal.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Can I ask you a question? Was that a very
small plane to fly New.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
York in Let me tell you an answer. I don't
care what size private plane it is. I'm happy to
take it for a brand deal, and no one's offered
it that.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm like, what that actual hell they are? They are
taking private planes to do brand deals. It's insanity.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Why didn't they tell us what? And also who? You
didn't tell us who the brand was? So does that
mean that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That brand is not getting any attention on this Hulu?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because I don't know what they were doing. I also,
they weren't even glam for most of it. I was confused.
And then where did all their makeup go on the
plane ride home?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, they're young, they just take it off.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They take it off, and then they're going to redo
it for the event when they get there. I know,
I know. But Layla has strong opinions during this and
reads a bunch of text messages.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh my god. Do you think that that was a
dick move on her part to do that? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I thought it was a dick move once we found
out that she wasn't going to actually have her back.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I just feel like when you do something like that,
like you're really like she's friends with the other girls.
That's what's crazy to me, and she's involved in that.
Is she trying to protect her ass or is she
one of those girls Layla that she's really good friends with,
a friend she's with.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think she's big balls.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, she had big balls to show Taylor those because
there was.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
No one that was going to be mad at her
in that moment.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, but she had to know that it's going to
come up.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, I think she you know how some people get
real pumped up to stir the shit and then once
they stir it, then they're like, oh fuck and they
run away.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
She was like deer in the headlights, Like later on
I'm like, oh shit, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So Demi responded to Taylor's apology saying she doesn't accept
her apology and goes on about why she doesn't, and
then Demi texted Layla asking her how much she was
making on the brand photoshoot. Layla then tells Taylor she
will stand up for her at the Saint and the
(12:50):
Center's party, which we know does not happen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, So Demi is that jealous friend that wants to
know how much everybody's getting paid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But if you and I got this same deal, sometimes
I think, yes, I'm not standing up for Demi in
this point, Like I think she asked out of jealousy
ways because she wasn't asked. But if we both got somebody,
so let's say Canada dry yeah not through the pod
reached out and asked gave us both an offer. I
would say to you, hey, Tam, how much you're making
(13:21):
for this, so I can't, but I wouldn't never.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But they're not doing the same deal. That's the thing.
It's like, it's like if somebody gets asked to do
something for Bravo, it's like, how much did you get paid?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You know? I know, it's only if you're doing the
same deal around the same time, and then it's like,
am I getting dicked and you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And it's also the way she worded it too, like
she actually I don't know. I just thought it was
just like.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The entire thing. This is not a good no matter what,
this is not a good season for dem No, it's
not no longer fan favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But was she actually a fan favorite last year? Because
she thinks I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Think she was the fan I don't. I think Taylor
has always been the fan favorite. But I think everyone
loved her. She was like the breakout really yeah. Then
we find out Macy's pregnant. She takes her pregnancy test
on camera. Then Whitney and Demi run into show.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A question really quick.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, he takes that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
They look, they read it, whatever they did in the kitchen,
and then is a pan out. There's a life size
picture of Jesus walking on water in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that what that was? I didn't notice it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I didn't know if it was Jesus or if it
was like Kristen's boyfriend Luke from the Valley. I'm like
that not even Luke.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You have to say, uh, the guy that wore the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, Aaron, Aaron, but he had like the scruff and
the I'm and he's I mean, it was like life
size in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How did I not notice? So? I don't know. I
think it might be because I watched this a long
time ago. Oh maybe, but then you know, they then
we're up back at jay Z Styles hair salon, and.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I like that name, jay z Styles, jay Zy Styles.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I want to go. As soon as I have enough
hair to attach some extensions to. I want to go
to Jesse.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think I had her extensions in my hair when
I filmed all season. Really yes, because I went to
somebody new I had my hair done, Jill. She's amazing
down in San Clemente, and she put I was. I
went to her for the first time during the season
and she put in her hair extensions and I'm like, oh,
what brand is it? And She's like Oh, it's a
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girl from TikTok that we order from. It has to
be right, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Mean, let's just assume and give her her props, yeah,
or as Cynthia always says, give her her flowers hours.
Why that always sticks out in my head. But they
bond overall feeling the same way. And then then we're
on the flight back. Layla is trying to be the
producer's pet, as we know, but she's trying to potstr
(16:09):
but it's, you know whatever. Then we get to the
Saint Center's party, Taylor comes in. Taylor is not gonna
take this laying down because she's wearing the biggest freaking
wings I've ever.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, she brings the coat of her backup and six
foot angel wings and she's like, no one's gonna fuck
with me, and you know what, and she dressed like
an angel, which is smart.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, it was smart. I hate to give you a compliment,
but there are parts of her that remind me of you.
It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Say that, because I think the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Sometimes I'm watching her and she says certain things and
I'm like, is this fucking mini Tana Judge. She could
be my baby tam or Judge. This is the Tamara
Judge's daughter that we've instead of being been affles relative like.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Lost daughter. Yeah, that's her and her facial expressions too,
like in her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I don't give a fuck, but I do give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Is also my favorite back and she'll let people push
her so far and it's like, no, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Then the you know, they go into the back room
to talk at the party, everybody looks pretty good. Jesse, Demi,
and Taylor start going at each other quite immediately. Layelah
doesn't say a single word Miranda.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
She just sat there. I'm like, say something, say something.
She was like deer in the headlights.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But why in the world would Miranda Miranda Miranda?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know what I have to say about Randa, I
feel like she kind of dies off the last part
of the season.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I don't think we're going to see Miranda again. I
think she's really cute, I think, I mean, I think
she's beautiful, but I don't think we're going to see
her season three.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
As my guess, well, I think they voted her not
to be in the mom talk at the end, right,
I mean, did they really get to vote. I don't know,
we need to talk about that because I'm so so
I have been confused about this forever. But we'll get
there and we'll get out of myself.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But then, you know, of course, Demi takes it too far.
She starts bashing Taylor's relationship with Dakota, which is what
it is, but then she brings her parenting into it
and brings in ever.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But when she did that, I'm like, that's almost like
you're disgusting. You're discussing your bitch and Demi is playing checkers.
Why Taylor is definitely playing chess, because Taylor's just.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like, go ahead, keep talking, and then you know what,
Taylor late, I'm not going on the cast trip, which
made the cast trip a fucking snooze fest, which is
why Demi had to break down to a ten. Well,
but that was a stupid, fucking game. But we'll get there.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was, But how many times do we have to
hear them say, mom talk is about supporting women, and
I don't feel like we're supporting I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
My god, it's like housewives are like, I hate the drama.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I hate I hope there's no drama on this trip.
Let's make it fun.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Let's let's do a healing trip. Healing healing, Oh my god,
it's not gonna happen. So episode nine, Episode nine, Macy
goes over to Jesse's house and talks about their upcoming
trip trip to New Orleans, where they debate if it's
New Orleans or New Orleans, what do.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You well, it's New Orleans, I believe. And I'll have
to tell you this is my life all season long, because, uh,
you know, obviously everybody knows we went there, and I
had to struggle New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans, Nola, Nola.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Know what, I can assume you didn't have a meal
the way that the Mormon Secret Lives of Mormon wives.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't think you got a delicious.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I know, homemade meals. But we did get some
good meals. But I I feel like I've seen the
New Orleans airport too many times in the past four months,
between me and you and me and the cast, and
now this, I'm like, when I saw that they went,
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh that was New Orleans. Was the last place I
went before I was tumor Teddy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yes, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh my god, Well, what a making of medical conditions
and whatnot. These viewers clocking thyroid problems better than actual
healthcare providers.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know that this isn't the first time of viewer
has done that, So what is another time? There was
Terrek from that flipping show el Most I don't know
how to spread he ended up with thyroid cancer. Then
Denise Richards, somebody on on Viewer Nurse Something detected that,
(20:57):
and then the host of Inside Edition are think Deborah,
she also had thyroid cancer, and it was all like
a fan saying, hey, you should go have that checked out.
I didn't notice anything, you know. I mean, you have
to really be trained, I guess because I didn't notice
anything on her neck.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean, sometimes I think it's incredible like in this instance.
But sometimes I mean I've gotten so many messages of
people that have said things to me that don't actually
know when it comes to doctor stuff, and it sends
me over the edge. But this is where it's pretty
incredible how observant somebody is and how they could change
a life and potentially save a life by letting them
(21:38):
know that. Guys. But if you're listening, guys, if you
don't actually know, or if you're not trained in this
in some way, it's probably not the best to be
giving out your medical opinions because it could just cause paranoia.
(22:00):
Guess what. They arrive in New Orleans and there's another
party bus.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Another party bus.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here they go. Layla says she feels bad for not
standing up for Taylor at the Saints and Center's party. Well,
there's not even the coming.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You should look what you've done. I mean you when
it happened, you were chicken shit and you wouldn't say
a word after you told Taylor you gave her her
you know your word that you would. And now guess what,
Taylor's not on the trip, probably afraid she's afraid to
go that she might hurt DEMI.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think she's afraid. I think she's seriously. I
think that was her way of saying, Bam, bitches, I'm
the main girl, and you try to make a show
without me. And then they realized they all had to
do some work, and they were like, well, this sucks
because then we've got dirty to me who's just done
herself in like her projection. When even it comes like
(22:55):
we haven't seen gin in weeks, I feel like and
how eating dinner they get a video from Jin Jin,
tells them that she just came out of therapy and
that she's struggling, going into a dark place. She shares
that she's been hurting and apologies for hurting any of them.
She says she needs to stay home and take care
of herself, and Demi says she doesn't want to tell
Jen anything anymore. The girls think to me as being
(23:16):
a little harsh considering what she's going on.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Okay, okay, so all the girls were like so sympathetic
and totally understood. Of course, Demi did not disappoint. She's consistent.
She sucks the energy out of every scene in the
last three episodes. Her negativity like why can't you just say, oh,
I feel sorry for her, I hope she's getting the
help she needs or whatever. But again she's like, eh,
(23:41):
just nasty towards her.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Especially when we know what's coming with all the whole
pregnancy stuff and how upset she got. She knows that
Jen is struggling, I know, with just getting pregnant. She
knows this information and she's still being an ass.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, did you notice Mikayla basically admitted that producers were
expecting to blow up because she's like, oh wow, now
that Taylor isn't here, who's going to.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Get into it? Who? My favorite is?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Mikayla.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I like Mikayla.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I like too, I like Jesse, I like Mikayla, and
I like Macy. So pretty much, I'm the general. And
guess what. I like Whitney. I told you you were
gonna like Whitney. I like Whitney. But she needs to
do more now that she's gotten her vote back into
mom talk. I need more.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I need her to step up.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
She does a lot on social media. She was I
do and I fell and I looked at her tiktoks.
I think her tiktoks are.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Amazing because I think she's a good dancer.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
She's a really good dancer. And it's funny because they
talk about this is mom talks about supporting each other
or supporting moms or women or whatever, but their tiktoks
or bashing. They're in the vigil. Tiktoks are usually bashing.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So that's the whole point. That's what they're all fighting about.
Because that's originally not how it started. Well that's how
it's going well because then it became a television show
about drama. Then the girls go to a burlesque show
in New Orleans. I also want to add in that
it's fine for vagina joints in the LDS community, just
not coffee.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Or alcohol. Ketymine and Thhc's totally.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Fine, totally fine. Well, then Taylor goes over to her parents'
house to talk about her talk with her mom and sister.
Taylor explains that Demi brought up a saint at Sinners
was a bad point in her life and it hurt her,
and Taylor's mom reminds her that she started mom talk.
I wish all the girls had heard this kind of discussion.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean Taylor seemed very humble, even when her
mom said that like you started it, you're the whatever,
and she's like, you know, don't say that. But she's
very very humble, and I love that about her.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I think she just I think Taylor needs a good friend.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, the other girls are basically ariston. When I say
other girls, Demi's basically saying she doesn't know how to
be a friend.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think she does. But she also has three little kids.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I think she's like a lot like me, Like
I'll have a couple of really good friends, but in
a like a big group setting, Like I don't push
myself to get super close to people.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But they haven't really shown many one on one scenes
with They always show it with her family.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, that's true. They show her family more than anything.
Is it because her mom wants to be a housewife?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I don't know. She makes good TV at this point,
then Mom Talk arrives back at the New Orleans house
and catches up on the couch. Layla asked me if
she can ever see herself being friends of Taylor again.
She says no, and then Layla has another brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Do you think Demi's that girl that tries to turn
everybody against.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
The girl that she hates at the moment, Yes, she's
done it multiple times. I think we're on the fourth person.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like exhausting, Like I you know, I would never
tell you who to be friends with, and I would
never listen right right, And just because like you can't
you don't do that to somebody. It's not my choice,
your choice to be like, Okay, since you don't like her,
I'm not going to be friends with her.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And and truthfully, to me, you have this big of
a problem leave.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But I think a narcissist does that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Allegedly narcissists. It's interesting that you would say that word,
because that's what Mean keeps calling Taylor.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It takes one to know one. I don't think that
the Taylor's a narciss at all. She's narciss has an
inflated opinion on themselves and think like they're so much
better than everybody. Taylor has the opposite.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think she's an introvert.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
She needs self esteem, she needs she doesn't feel good
about herself. I feel like she's still blaming herself for
the whole swinging scandal, and she it still bothers her
that she did that, and I don't know that would
not be like that now in the show, that's how
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they should be kissing her ass.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Granted, they may have had a lot of TikTok followers before,
but that's what got the show started. It's not that
they were all good dancers on the Tiktoks.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Now, who do you think had the idea to play
pregnancy Roulette? Because I got to believe the producers knew
two of the girls were pregnant.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I got to believe that if that was Layla's idea,
I'll run myself over with my car because I.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Do know not her idea. I think it was Producers
because had they not known two girls were pregnant, they
would have never played this game.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, but this is another instance of Leila.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
They they could have gotten better tests other than Walgreen pregnant.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Because they didn't, well, they didn't want. They must have
tried to make a deal with what's the pregnancy test
we all take? Could you imagine if they did this
on Housewives when everybody's already in menopause.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Clear blue. It's not a clear blue, so obviously like
if we all did these tests, we'd all, oh, it's
a real shock or noegnant. No, it's like, do they
have menopause tests? Like on the sticks you see who's
in menopause.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Let's see who still gets a period at way? I
still haven't gotten one since I went into the hospital.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, it's probably all the medication and stuff it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Makes your period stop. Well, or maybe I've hit that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Maybe is there any kind of like hormone blockers or
anything you're on?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, I think something like hot just seizure Medican medication. No, nothing,
I'm not on estrogen. I'm not on any hormones, but
maybe that's why. Maybe because I'm not I know for
sure I am not pregnant, so everyone doesn't need to
go there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And immune a therapy because I've heard like immun like
a chemotherapy, immune therapy, all these things. Can they put
you into menopause?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's why I don't know. I'm going to ask today.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I know that chemo can. I've heard somebody talk about
it before. I don't know. I mean, I'm just repeating
what I've heard, but that that could be it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's it's just weird because how many I mean, we're
almost at six months.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, when did we When did I go in oh
for February?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
February I already.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Wash. I on my period when we were in New Orleans. No, no,
I was not well. Then Leila continues this on and
then it honestly, I'm gonna I know we're going to
be skipping around, but this is where shit hits the fan.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well, yeah, so Demmi gets all emotional, she starts freaking out.
I mean, I know it's got to be upsetting, but
how did she know that maybe one of those pregnancy
tests were not hers if she's currently trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I think she went and took another one. I think
that's why she went in the bathroom. I think that's
what they were implying.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I mean, we obviously knew who was pregnant, because we
met with the girls and we interviewed them, and they
were pregnant when we interviewed them.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But I still don't you worry. I still wasn't smart
enough to figure out that Mikhael was the other one.
That was me too.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean at first, I'm like, wait, who's the other one?
And then they stopped the game and they all go
different directions, and Demmy goes off crying, and I'm like, wait,
we need to find out who it is. And of
course we did when mikaelin may seem meat and they
dressed like we knew Dynasty wives. You see there, Why
did they have their they still had the.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Stickers on there. They must have been doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
They had to have been, because I mean, I know,
like I've often seen, are those in style, those dummo pants, Well,
they are like a certain type of cameo pants. They're
camo pants hunting in Yeah, I don't pattern on him.
It's like hunting ones.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
But they also had the thing, Yeah, I don't know.
Oh my gosh, I have armpit sweat. Things are really
going well right now, minopause hot, but it's it's it's
going not well. And it's also not going well because
Taylor makes a decision to end things with Dakota for good,
which I think now we know that isn't actually accurate.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But she's kind of confusing because I.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Know you like Dakota. I do like Dakota.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I do like Dakota, but we don't really see a
lot of interaction and fighting this season with them. There's
not a lot like obviously she was arrested last year,
and now Taylor's family likes Dakota, and I'm like, so
I'm I'm like, I don't, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Think Dakota, especially after some of the clips see I'm
gonna believe whatever Macy says. That's the level I'm at
right now. And I saw Macy fighting with Dakota on
his Vile Files interview because he made some stuff up,
and I'm going to believe her. I believe Macy. I
(33:07):
don't like Dakota, and I'm standing by that. Okay, even
though he's fooling us on the show because I'm liking
him on the show.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, I mean he comes across pretty sincere and good
with his son, and I don't know, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
A lot of people can come off good. I mean,
you and I can pretend to be likable for about
twenty minutes, I know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And it's always the one that acts on reality shows
that everyone's like, oh, they're so sweet, Oh do this,
and you're like, if you only knew, if you knew
when they go sightseeing in New Orleans, I knew exactly
where they were going. Cafe Dumont.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's what we waited in the line for no reason.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Oh Bert, Yes, but listen, do you know that Bronwyn
just sent me a picture of the three of us there.
I'll have to send it to you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh my gosh, send that to me.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And what are those little things that been been?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
The beignettes? Vignettes I think that's what they're called. But
those were so good. I mean, I feel bad that
I felt so terrible on that trip. I was so sick,
clearly because I had those giant tumors and had no idea,
because that would have been a really fun trip had
I not felt like somebody was poking my head with
(34:25):
a million knives. All right, I guess we got to stay.
We got to stay on topic. But that was we
do need to go back, but they're sight seeing. Jesse
explains how hurt she is that Demi would be sending
people elsewhere and Jesse and to me talk while they're
at the market. I don't believe one thing Demi says
(34:47):
at this point.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Did you hear that conversation that the in the Mormon religion,
they believe that you're sealed to your very first husband
and then in the afterlife that's who you're going to
be with. I'm like, if so, if I was Mormon,
I'd be my afterlife would be with Ryan's dad, Darren
him att.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I guess we're sealed together for the eternity. I realized, like, wow,
what I haven't even spoke. Could you imagine if that
was the case? And I mean, how many years has
it been since you've even spoken to Ryan's dad?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I saw him at Ava's ninth birthday, But prior to that,
it's usually like if Ava has you know, has a
birthday party and he's there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You had you had a kid with him, but like
Matt for example, like I have not one bad thing
to say about him, but I probably haven't spoken to
him in fifteen years. But then I'm going to just
meet him in the afterlife and.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Tie together and say, here we are. It's you and me, baby,
remember when we were twenty to give you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
My gosh. I couldn't believe it. But then mom talk
goes to the vampire apothecary for dinner. I'm glad we
didn't go there. Jesse thinks that drinking blood is most
likely against the words of Mormon wisdom.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm pretty sure it wasn't blood, sweetie, But I love
they're all dressed like witches. We were all hour.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Chokers, but they all get virgin blood bags.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I know an ivy bag that was an ivy bag.
I'm like, that's kind of a cute idea. I mean,
I don't know where you buy ivy bags at.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And where you get vart ones right, like what's in there?
But Demi decides at this point she's going to tell
the group if Taylor's and that she is out. This
shocks the group and they think it's unfair for her
to say that. Do you want to know whoever comes
out well with an ultimatum, no one, no one, no
(36:50):
one person.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeh ever does well, but thank you Jesse. Like she's
the one that's like, stop holding a fucking grudge. He's
not holding a grudge, Like move on? Why can't you
move on? You know what, Demi, at this point, you're
the one that sounds like a psychotic child. I not Taylor.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You, I agree, And then you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Also what I also noticed and you probably did too.
When Demi mentioned that it's not the Taylor Show, it
showed me. It spoke like, so I can't even talk.
It showed me her jealousy towards Taylor. She showed her cards.
She thinks, oh my god, this is the Taylor show.
(37:32):
That those are her words. I've never heard Taylor be like,
this is my show, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Taylor know, like when you have confident like granted, I
know that Taylor is struggling with some you know, personal
related things, but I think Taylor is very confident in
her place in the show, and Demi is not, and
she should not be because it's not looking good for her.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's not looking good for her at all, and it gets.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Even worse in the final episode. But we have to
close out because that's the end of this episode and
we will be back to talk about episode ten.
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