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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This week, Patrick Mahomes is actively trying to ruin Josh
Allen's legacy, and we got the man Dan Landing in
the building, head coach for the Oregon Ducks, and we
got to talk about sports Illustrated. People thought it died
this week, but it's been dead for a very long time.
And also why Jason Kelsey is unafraid. Welcome to the
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Unafraid Show. I'm happy that you guys are here. Make
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great content. It's time for the Unaffraid Show.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
After the Bill's three point loss to the Chiefs, are
you starting to feel sorry for Josh Allen? I actually nah,
because you can't feel sorry for a three hundred million
dollar man for stuff that happens on the field, right,
And I'll get back to that in a second. Because
it was a great week of football with the Divisional
round of the playoffs giving us an NFL championship matchup
of the Detroit Lions at San Francisco, and in the AFC,
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we got the Chiefs who are set up to visit
Baltimore and it is going to be a rough week
for people who are sick and tired of sports writers
making references to the wire or people losing their minds
over between play shots of Taylor Swift and side note,
why are people so mad about the camera cutting toward
the biggest pop star in the world, But y'all ain't
mad about Fox or CBS or Pete Cock showing Jerry
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Jones eight hundred times a game. Now you need to
tap into the Unafraid Show because I've already made videos
about the rise of the Lions, Lamar Jackson's ten month
path from trade demand to MVP, and why the rock
party hype is driving me insane, and I'll link all
those videos in the comments. But today we need to
talk about Patrick Mahomes and the number that he's doing
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on Josh Allen's career, because this is three of the
last four years that Josh Allen has seen his postseason
come to an end at the hands of Patrick Mahomes.
Unfortunately for Allen, this has become the foundation of his
legacy so far because people have officially stopped caring about
the fact that he has won a playoff game for
four years in a row. The dude has twenty seven
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playoff touchdowns by age twenty seven doesn't matter aller and
three against Mahomes in the playoffs. You know what this
reminds me of it? Did you know that there's an
eleven time NBA All Star, two time MVP with career
averages of twenty six points and sixteen rebounds the game
that nobody talks about, and the reason why nobody talks
about him is because Bill Russell knocked him out of
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the playoffs three times and Wilt Chamberlain got him once too.
If you don't know who it is by now, maybe
you don't know basketball like that, or maybe you are.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
A student of history.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But history is written by the victors. And it's trivia
time here because if you do know who I'm talking about,
drop the name in the comments. But back to my point, though,
the narrative about Josh Allen's career, it's at risk of
being swallowed up by the same unfortunate monster that ate
up career narratives of so many others bringing a great
hand to the table. You got four of a kind
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with aces, but the other dudes got a royal flush.
Just ask Philip Rivers about Tom Brady or Dan Marino
about Jim Kelly or Jim Kelly about the NFC. But
there's still plenty of time because Josh Allen is just
twenty seven and Peyton Manning was thirty the first time
that he beat Tom Brady in the playoffs, and once
that glass ceiling was shattered, he never lost to Brady
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in the postseason again. And never forget John Elway had
a losing record in the playoffs until he beat none
other than the Kansas City Chiefs in the Division A
round at thirty seven years old. Now, let's just hope
for Bill's fans sake that they don't have to endure
another decade of kicks going wide right before Josh Allen
is able to do the same. But let's get back
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to Patrick Mahomes. Six years as a starter, six AFC
championship games of thirteen to three record with thirty eight
touchdowns to only seven interceptions, and the dude is six
all time in playoff wins and if he wins the
Super Bowl this year, he will be second and it's
only six years starting At this point, you have to
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wonder if Andy Reid would have put Mahomes in the
game as a rookie when Alex Smith twenty one to
three halftime lead over Marcus Mariota and the Titans started
to slip away. He might have seven AFC Championship appearances
in seven years. Try to tell me now that we
are witnessing the greatest of all time at work. Now,
this isn't meant to be a shot or disrespect Brady,
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because if Brady's your guy, I get it. Nobody's won
more thirty five playoff wins, seven Super Bowls. That's absolutely insane.
You should absolutely enjoy that title of goat while it lasts,
because just like Tom Brady came for Joe Montana's throne,
Patrick Mahomes is on his way. But unlike Montana versus Brady,
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where there wasn't a noticeable skill difference, You'd have to
be insane to deny the fact that Patrick Mahomes is
a better athlete with a better arm. And the thing
that Brady fans will always come back to is that
Brady they beat Mahomes twice playoffs. Dude, Mahomes was in
the beginning of his career and you're gonna absolutely need
to glink to that. If Mahomes finds a way to
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win his third Super Bowl at age twenty eight, with
objectively his worst supporting cast and running through MVP Lamar
Jackson on the road along the way. Because Mahomes already
publicly stated that Tom Brady set the model for his
personal aspirations by playing at a high level until he's
forty five years old, do I think that type of
longevity as possible. I don't know. But even if Patrick
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Mahomes only plays half as long as Brady's career was
as a starter, He's still on pace to be top
twelve all time in passing yards and touchdowns. Imagine what
the stats and records will look like if he's able
to double the career linked like Tom Terrific did and
make it until the year twenty forty. Because records are
made to be broken, and bars are set so high
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that those with the will, imagination and the right support
system can try to clear them. Now, don't make the
mistake that people in the generation before me made, sing
Michael Jordan in the early nineties, because Magic Johnson spent
the eighties collecting rings. Everybody should just enjoy the greatness
while it's right in front of them. Well, everybody except you.
Josh Allen because I know you're not appreciating that, and
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back to the drawing board. But that's enough NFL for
right now. We got to get to our guest head
coach for the Oregon Ducks, mister Dan Lanning. And now
we're joined by Oregon head coach, mister Dan Lanning. Dan,
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The show, man, George, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
All right, So I want to I want to go back,
way way back. So you're a North Kansas City kid.
What was life like for young Dan Lanning and middle school,
high school?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, I grew up loving sports.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I'm actually from a really small town outside of North Kanas.
I'm I'm from a town called Richmond Suri. It's like
five thousand people, so small town, man. Both my parents
were teachers. My grandpa had a farm, so we kind
of grew up out on the gravel road out there,
but grew up loving sports and got to have some
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great coaches. But that's probably where it all started for me.
You know, I was the guy that did them all.
I did baseball, basketball, football. It was lucky to be
in a place that it was a great place to
grow up.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Now I want to fast forward to twenty eleven, you
are a high school coach and you decide you got
a wife, you got a kid, she's pregnant, and you
decided to make a thirteen hour drive to Pittsburgh on
a leap of faith. What was going on with that
thirteen hour drive where you were trying to get a job.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, I mean, so to be honest, as an elementary ptater,
as a high school football coach, and I just had
this hunger to do something, maybe at a little bit
higher level, to get a little bit more entrenched in football.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I didn't know really where that would be, but for
you know, for about three years, I was trying to
get my foot in the door. And anybody that's tried
to get into coach and realizes how hard it really
is to get your foot in the door. And you know,
I finally got a bite. I'd gotten a phone call
that said, hey, we might we might have a job
for you. We'll call you back. And they never called back.
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And one of my big things is you never want
to live, you know, life with regrets. So the fact
that they called that was enough of a foot in
the door that made me want to get in that
car and drive thirteen hours after I got done teaching
class that day and run the weight room and got
the car and drove out there, and the whole time
I'm trying to prep myself for what I might say
because I didn't have an interview set up. I didn't
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have an opportunity set up. But I just wanted to
get there and see if I can, you know, make
a run at it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So you get there and the coaches aren't even there.
They're off doing something else. What was the waiting game
like the next day? And did you even think that
they would see you?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So I get right right before I get to the facility,
I pull over to a gas station.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I put a suit on.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
It's early in the morning because I drove through the night,
so I'm waiting in the lobbies like six am, seven am.
I don't know how I got in the door, honestly,
but eventually a GA comes up the stairs. His name
is Eric Thatcher. He works for the forty nine ers now,
and he's like, yeah, all the coaches, they're in Happy Valley.
They're doing a coaching clinic. So I actually hung out
the rest of the day with him. There's a secretary
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there that didn't want to share the defensive coordinator's number
with me. So I think once you realized, like, no,
I drove thirteen hours, I'm gonna wait till I get
to talk to somebody. She got me on the phone
with the defensive corderic Keith Patterson, and I found out
he was gonna be back the next day. So got
a hotel room, stayed the night, and got a visit
with him, and yeah, that was the beginning. So got
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offered a job for eight hundred bucks a month. I
think that's back when they called that quality control. I
don't know what it is now, but that was the first.
That was the first stab in college coaching.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And what was that conversation with your wife like when
you're like, hey, baby, I know that we got a
stable income right here, but I'm gonna go back to
twelve hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know what's crazy. My wife has always been on board.
She's always known kind of my dreams and aspirations. And
I still have the voicemail saved on my phone from
coach saving calling and offered me an opportunity there and Alabama,
and I you know, we we sat in my living
room there in Huntsville, Texas, and I think we played
that voicemail like fifteen times, and she's like, you can't
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say no to Nick Saban And she was right, I couldn't.
That was an opportunity I couldn't pass up. So I've
been lucky to have. You know, Sophia has been a
great support this entire track.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know, obviously your name has been mentioned with all
sorts of coaching jobs Texas, a and m Alabama. What
has made you want to stay at in U Gene
knowing that in the coaching world and out in you know,
out in the world, people are like Alabama, Georgia, in
Texas and that these are the places that you're supposed
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to want to be at.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, one is because I think we can make work
in that place. I truly believe everything's in place here
for this to be as good at coaching job and
as good of a university US there is in college football.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I think that exists right here in Oregon.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And then two, you know, Orgon took a chance on me, right,
and who would I be to to come here, have
some success and then ride off into the sunset Whenever uh,
they said, you know what, then we trust you with
our program. We're gonna pour everything we have into you
being successful. I'm not gonna leave that. That's that's you know,
I recognize the risks that they took to get me here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And I've heard you say before that the job's not
finished up.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
What is the job to make Oregon? You know, the
best job in college football? You know, I've got goals
and aspirations, you know, no bones about it. We want
to win championships here and I think the things that
we're building or putting this in position to be able
to do that. So when will the job be done?
You know, I don't know when. You know, there's always
you know, I think people that want to grow and
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people that are successful, they're always looking for a win,
IM proves. So even if a championship comes at some
point for us here, I don't know that I'll feel
like it's done then either.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know, it's if you can make it better. There's
an opportunity to keep continue to improve.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well, that's good news. As a football coach, you have
to compete. You got to compete for recruit you got
to compete for wins, you got to compete to keep
your staff, and you had to watch your wife compete
in what was her biggest battle, which was a cancer battle.
What did you learn from watching her fight that fight?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, probably the first thing I learned was football is
not that important. And that was a good reset that
I needed in my life. You know, at this point,
I've been chasing a lot of opportunities. I've been you know, ambitious,
and you know, whenever you find out your wife shiit,
the only thing you're worried about is her being healthy
and your three boys having a mom.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
And that was a really good reset for me.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You learn how many people care about you and care
about you more than just as a football coach too.
I had a great group that supported me, you know
during that time, supported our family during that time. But
when you're sitting at the hospital and your wife's getting
chemotherapy on Valentine's Day, that puts things in perspective for you,
and it's it's something that I hope nobody ever gets
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to experience. But I'll say this, like, through that adversity,
it made our family stronger.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And you have a tattoo of your wife's face, and
it has a bunch of little itty bitty tattoos of
all your stops. You know, it's got Alabama it's got
Georgia's got Oregon and and everybody in between. What was
the impetus for that tattoo?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I always joke around my wife.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I was like, I like, I like gals that have tats,
but I know Sophia is never gonna have one. How
would I get a tattoo? And it was kind of
a surprise to her. I came home that day with
it and she's like, I can't believe you did this.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But our journey, you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Know, that's like it's our story, that's that's part of
what's made.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
This adventure so fun for us.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So I just want to get something that maybe kind
of symbolized, you know, where we've been, what we've experienced
to get here, and you know that that journey's not
over with. But that was that was kind of the
inspiration for that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So we don't see the tattoo when you're in your
and your your coaching gear and all of that. Where
is the tattoo?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I was hoping nobody. I was hoping nobody would ever
see that tattoo. But somehow it hit the light of
day and it became everybody else's tattoos.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So I got it on my thigh.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The tattoo artist asked me before I got it. He
was like, you want to get this numbing cream? And
I'm like, no, man, I'm good. About halfway through. About
halfway through, I'm like, I'm an idiot. I should have
give me whatever you got because I have to walk
out of there with the side like a side piece
about half of my wife's body on there.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I was almost done. It hurts.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Hey, that's funny because my son, who's seventeen, he just
dropped him off of college and he's like, Dad, I
want to get a tattoo. He wants to get it
on his side too. He was to get a whole
Bible verse every time. First, better get that numbing cream.
Fast forward, you are at the National Championship hanging out
in the suite with Michael Jordan, Jeter, Travis Scott, everybody else.
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What was that Like?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, it's those moments you got to pinch yourself and say,
how the heck did I end up here? Like, I
hope they don't realize I'm in this room. I'm not
the guy that's supposed to be in this room. But
it's part of what organ you know, that's part of
what opportunities that organ can provide, not just you know,
me as the coach, but our players that come here.
I think you start to realize the doors that organ
opens up, you know, for people, and the opportunity to
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work around great people that I've been around has created
a lot of success.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And opportunity for me.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So when you can maximize those opportunities, you know, it's
amazing what God will put in front of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Was there a moment or something that happened when you
guys were at the suite that that you can share
with us that that you remember.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
There's a lot that I remember that sweet I'll tell this.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I was I was visiting with Michael about a recruit
that we're trying to get, trying to sign it as
a D lineman from his neck of the woods. And
he's like, come on, man, you gotta let me have
one of them come you know, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It's like, sorry, not not this one. So uh we uh.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's fun being around those guys. You know, you hang
on to every word right when you hear. When you
hear people like m J speak or Jeter speak, you know,
that's it's pretty unique.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Opportunity to say the least.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I like that. You hey man, it must must be
nice on the first name basis with Mike. Oh man,
it's just the MJ.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
This is the MJ.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I don't know about that. I don't know about that.
They fight like that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
What advice would you give to a younger, the younger
Dan Lanning or the you know, the fifteen year old,
the twenty one year old that's saying I want that,
I want that life.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Just keep chasing your dream. Make sure you're doing something
that you're passionate about.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I think it's harder and harder for younger you know,
younger kids and younger people in the world, because you
get so much of your internal the way you feel
about yourself internally from outside noise. And ignoring that outside noise,
I think it's louder than it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
If you're doing something right, you're gonna have haters. That's
that's the reality. And ignore that. Keep your head down
and focus on the main goal.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's that's what I would tell myself.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So I heard about something, and I know that you're
big on loyalty, and and I heard about this group
chat that you've had with your with your friends that
you've had for a very long time, and that you
are actually the one that planned your uh you you
guys as guys trip. Every single year you do some
bigger man.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm impressed. Yeah, we got a we got a crew.
We're going.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
We going in somewhere different every year. It's a lot
of fun to stay connected. You know, my friends with
my friends, they'll always be my friends. And we got
a group that's really really tight, really really close.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
We got a buddy this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Year that you know, is in our group that's getting
married in Miami. So the trip this year is gonna
be down in Miami.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So pray for me.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And I know that you love movies too. What are
your favorite movies?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Top five movies for me? Road to Tradition, Departing seven. Uh,
Last of the Mohicans. Oh, mister River, Mister River. That's
that's another top So they're all kind of depressing drama movies.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, some people give me a hard time. I
don't have like wedding crashes in there.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I love that movie, but that's not a my top five.
It's got to be artistic, man, It's gonna happen the
story behind it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
She's stage five cleaner, I love wedding crashers. And you guys,
he's head coaching the Oregon Ducks Dan Landing and uh,
we'll have him back in just a minute for rice
or Wrong. But first we got to take a lush break.
So I decided to take the kids to where where
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are we going? Fresh and Meatie Burger? Let's see what
these burger's talking about McDonald McDonald's. We can go here, Roman,
Are you excited?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Roman?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Which burger do you want? Yeah? Well, here's what the
burger comes with, standard options, the relics, joint tomato.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm getting all this except for the relives.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But and then we got oh yeah, who options to
the chili peppers?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So my pops used to tell me.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
About this place, about Freshman Edy Burger. So I'm actually
juice because you don't see if pops nobody talking about Yeah,
you feel me? Let's start with the what oh lord,
did you just fill the ketchup? Come on? Oh okay,
we gotta wait. So now let's try this again with
the fry you want to ketch up? How is it? Well?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I could be a little Christmas here, but.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
How is the are they real fries or are they
the frozen fries?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay, so here's how the fries look nice season and onum,
got a little crisp one season nice. I'm got a
little peppery joint on it. Hello, teeny, try to get Chrisville.
But they've been in the bags just for a second,
so raptor joint up the spoil.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, cause who gotta look good to okay y, just
more ketch up? On. Take the first bit of a
King burger. How's the meat.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Is the season one?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
What would you rated from one to ten?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Like you want some pride?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, now I'm gonna get this.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Mine obviously has more accoutra amounts on it, so let's
see what he's talking about. First thing you notice is
burger season.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, we got a nice crust on that. Hold on,
I'm giving you some fries. Yes, okay, got a good
crust on it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Damn good amount of male mustard on it, which, well, like,
do what you have just a little more lettuce and
tomato because I like that hot am cold on like
a traditional burger.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's just me but it's good, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Solid, I'm gonna give this fresh and Meati burger. Give
it a A point two A point two out of
ten letter and the fries their season really well, I.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Do want just a little more crisp on U two K.
They're just a little bit more crisp.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
If you have fresh fries, you're always gonna get higher
marks than than something coming out of back.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Just just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And now we're back with head coach of the Oregon Ducks,
mister Dan Langan. Now it's time for Reister or Wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The best Matt Damon movie franchise is the Ocean series,
like Ocean eleven's twelve thirteen, and not the Born series Wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean, look, Ocean is eleven's the lead, right,
but after that they take a hard fall.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I feel like, you know, so that's Forren's gotta be
above that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I heard that you love karaoke, so right.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't know, I love. I'll participate. I enjoy watching
other people seeing karaoke, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, So Reister or Wrong. Dan Lanning's go to karaoke
song is don't Stop Believing.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Wrong, Clarence carter Man, That's that's the go to.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
See you surprising with the movies and everything else, reister
or wrong. Dan Lanning knows how to cook a good steak.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, I can cook a steak.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I think I got some flak about how I was
doing my stake the other day when I did an
Instagram video. They don't realize I was just setting the
steak down in the pan like you share it over here,
there was a resting pan. I normally would do it outside.
It was a Chilei day and Eugene, I love doing
it on the grill.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I love doing it outside on the grill.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
But I can I mean, I can cook a steak.
A problem is I like my steake. I like misteak
like rare, medium rare, and everybody else in the family
is more of a medium. So yeah, you gotta take
it another notch out for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
All right, now, now for the competition part of the question.
So people were on you about your steak, and people
were on Lincoln Riley about his brisket. So who can
make a better brisket, Dad Landing or Lincoln Riley?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
If we're competing, man, I'm going to compete to win, Man,
I'm going to compete to win.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Since that moment, you know, uh link Lincoln. I'm sure
he can throw down.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'll say this, we're probably both better coaches than we
are cooks.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well us good news, riister or wrong. I was born
in Memphis, lived there until you know, I was nine
years old. Memphis barbecue is better than Kansas City barbecue.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Oh there's some good Memphis barbecue, man, But I gotta
take you on a barbecue crawl in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
At some point.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We gotta go in Arthur Bryant, Joe's jack Stack. We
got some places to go, man.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All right, cool, I'm absolutely down rights st or wrong.
You knew back in two thousand and eleven that Aaron
Donald was going to be an all time great when
you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Wear a pit this dude was a beat man in practice.
He was really he's really quite a quiet away from
the field. But on the field this dude was an animal.
And he was an animal back then in twenty eleven
pit he you know, good story. He actually broke our
scout team quarterbacks collar bone and practice one.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Day because he hit him so hard. So Aaron could play.
He can play back then obviously can play now.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, And it was a scout team quarterback, so and
get kicked out of practice.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Exactly. You weren't kicking You weren't kicking that guy in
practice anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Reister or wrong, here is the order for the person
that you want to get your ass chewed by the least,
Nick Saban, Kirby, Smart, Todd Graham, and then uh, Mike
Norvell wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I'll say, uh, the best. The guy that gave the
best ask you is Todd Graham. He was He was
like far and away the best Kirby, and Kirby was
really good at it too. I mean, I they're all elite, like,
let's all put him in the high category.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But Mike, Mike, Michael bea at the bomb in the list.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But at the end of the day, when you're doing
your job right, you don't want to get ripped by
any of them. So I was lucky enough to get
get all of them to rip me at some point.
That's what you need as a young coach. And UH
certainly enjoyed that experience. But I got I got coach
Graham there.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
At the top. He was the best at it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Reister or wrong. Dan Lanning, head coaching of the Oregon Ducks,
is the best head coach recruiter in the nation.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Now, there's always somebody better out there. That's what makes
us came fun. Man, you gotta go compete. There's somebody
doing it better than you. Gotta figure out way bit.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Better than them.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, you guys, that's right, story wrong, and he's coached
Dan Landing coach. Thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Appreciate it, George, I have a good one.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You did some research, man, you made that fine.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
If you grew up a sports fan and you're over
the age of thirty, that means that Sports Illustrated probably
played an important role in your life, because making the
cover of Sports Illustrated was to athletes what Rolling Stone
was to musicians. It was like the holy grail, and
a Sports Illustrated cover carried with it both a tremendous
honor and a massive pressure to live up to your
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billing as a current or future star. And this week,
with the news that Sports Illustrated was in the process
of laying off its entire staff, a flood of people's
favorite covers grace social media because ten or fifteen years ago,
it would have been hard to imagine a world where
Sports Illustrated was going out of business like Blockbuster Toys
or RUSS Radio Shack when sports have never been more popular.
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I still remember the heartbreak of the July twenty six,
two thousand and four cover showing the breakup of Kobe
and Shack, even though I was happy that they chose
Kobe and one of my all time favorite covers. I
didn't know what at the time, but I realized that
when I got in the league was May eleventh, ninety eight,
showing the Chicago Bulls gambling with Michael Jordan on the
team plane. Because I remember doing that when I got
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in the league, and it just felt nostalgic. Let me
know which SI cover means the most to you in
the comments. So because of this news, nostalgia was at
an all time high, But so was the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
If you were scrolling on the timeline, you'd see one
person waxing poetic about the improbability of Lebron James living
up to being dubbed as the Chosen One back in
two thousand and two, followed by several brain dead posts
about Sports Illustrated going bankrupt for being too woke because
they wouldn't keep putting the women your dad found attractive
on the Swimsuit edition cover. Simple and incorrect is always
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an easier stance than taking what's complex and correct. But
if you're willing to hang with me for a couple
of minutes, here I'll show you what being woke isn't
what killed Sports Illustrated, primarily because you can't kill something
that's already been dead for nine years. What made Sports
Illustrated great was the pictures. And before somebody clips this
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post and posted with the caption George, you can't read, bruh,
Come on now, I can read. But seriously, the best
action photographers in the world work for Sports Illustrated, and
they captured some of the most incredible images that we've
ever seen. It's what put the illustrated in Sports Illustrated,
and it's what set SI apart from the competition, whether
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it was Walter UoS Junior snagging a photo of Dwight
Clark making the catch, or Neil Leafer's photograph of Ili
knocking out Sonny Listing, which is one of my personal
favorites because he only did like that for just a
quarter second, or the time Leifer put a camera in
the rafters to capture Ali's knockout of Cleveland Williams. The
magazine set the standard in photography for sixty years. But
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in twos and fifteen, Sports Illustrated gave into the times
and let its last six staff photographers go, and from
then on SIUs freelancers and pulled still shots from the
HD video streams. And I'm not disparaging the talent of
freelance photographers, but it would be a lot like your
favorite band firing its lead singer, still going on tour
and just using the best local caraoker singer in each town.
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It technically might still be your favorite band, and the
vocals might be good, it might even be better than
the original, but it's not the original, is no. And
then in twenty eighteen, Sports Illustrated was sold off by
Time Incorporated to Meredith Corporation, who then sold it off
to Authentic Brands Group. And then all of a sudden,
the entire bill of Sports Illustrated wasn't to do the
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game changing work of the past. It was to operate
under a licensing agreement by a company called The Maven.
The Maven, which is now called the Arena Group, was
started by the same dudes, Ross Levinson and Jim Heckman
that literally ran the recruiting Beheman Scout dot Com into
the ground, that is, until the good and decent people
at CBS twenty four to seven swooped in to rescue
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them from bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar. So for
the last few years, the Arena Group has paid Authentic
Brands a licensing agreement to publish online articles under the
Sports Illustrated name, and the physical magazine went from being
weekly to monthly publication, and the online focus became team
specific sites much like scout dot Com, which you remember
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from earlier went bankrupt. So you had a company operating
under a nostalgic brand name for a few years while
constantly hemorrhaging employees. And then in January of this year,
the Arena Group misses the three point seventy five million
dollar licensing payment to the Authentic Brands for the right
to pretend to be Sports Illustrated. Now, if you remember
our earlier analogy, we've reached the point where now the
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karaoke singers that are now paying to be in the
band just ran out of cash, and whatever is out
there whearing Sports Illustrated clothes and pretending the the company
that you used to love just ran out of gas,
and unfortunately that means there are some good writers that
do some good work, like Pat Forty or Matt Berderam,
that might need to find another gig. And it's sad
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and inevitable. But times change. Because the same Internet that
makes all of our sports illustrated memories going back to
the nineteen sixties constantly accessible, made the vehicle that delivered
most of those memories obsolete. The way we consume content
has changed. I mean, that's why you're here on YouTube
or social media watching me here instead of on terrestrial television.
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And I'm grateful to have your time and energy. But
as hard as it is to imagine, one day, YouTube
might be on the chopping block as well if they
don't adapt. So if Sports Illustrated dead because they went woke, no,
they died nine years ago, in large part because print
media is leaving this earth at the same rate as
the boomer generation. So we've had the last decade of
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SI karaoke. And while karaoke is cool and fun and
sometimes it's very very good, it's not the real thing.
So let Sports Illustrate it go, or if you've got
the cash, you can pay authentic brands a few million
dollars a year just to pretend to be sports illustrated.
To let that sink in. It's fatherhood time, so bring
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it in for the real thing. Now. I have five kids,
twenty three, seventeen, thirteen, twelve, and four, so I have
all sorts of things come up, but this one is
specifically about the seventeen and the twenty three year old
because they have had some car issues. And these are
things that if you are a parent, you're gonna want
to send to your kid because you'll be like, see, look,
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I'm not the only one. And or if you are
falling in that demo, then this is for you. Number One,
check your tires regularly, at least every couple weeks. Take
a quarter down into the little groove of the tire,
see if it's about halfway up. If it is, you're good.
If not, then you need to start to think about
when you're gonna get some new tires or preparing for
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it over the next couple weeks or months or however
much time that you really have. And also look on
the inside of the tire, because if you probably haven't
had an alignment or had your tires rotated recently, so
they're probably not wearing evenly, and you can get em
balding on the inside while it's still looking good on
the outside, and your prime for a blowout and a
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potential accident. Do not let this happen. I've seen it
with my kids already. Number two Oil changes and scheduled maintenance.
If you have a new car or you have a
warranty policy, make sure that you are doing that your
scheduled maintenance where there's changing all the fluids and checking
everything that's covered in your warranty. But if not, just
make sure that you are getting your oil changes, for
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the love of God, please So then the question is
how do you know? How do I know if I
need an oil change? Look in your car's manual or
hit on YouTube. I have a twenty twenty one accurate
legend or I have a twenty twenty three for it
focus whatever it is, How long do I need to
go between world changes? And they will tell you it
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could be five thousand miles, ten thousand miles, twenty dependent
on the type of car that you have. But get
them done because you don't want you an engine locking up,
you pulling over the side of the road, black smoke
going up that's a forty five thousand dollars problem that
could have been avoided by a forty fifty dollars oil change.
Number Three, if you get a parking ticket or you
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especially if you were in college, listen, those parking tickets
are going to catch up with you. You can't run
away with them. You are not gonna be able to
get your diploma, You're not gonna be able to register
for classes any of that. And if you aren't in school,
your registration or your license is gonna get held up
because you getn't pay your parking tickets or your speeding
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tickets or traffic in fractions. Take care of them on
the front end, because what's one hundred and fifty dollars
ticket on the front end, We're turning to a six
seven hundred dollars ticket when it goes to collections. You
know how, I know because I had it happen when
I was playing in the NFL like a young dummy.
Number four, your winser wipers. If you live in a
place where the seasons changed regularly, where it gets a
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super hot one part of the year super cold, your
winshield wipers are not gonna last an entire year. They're
only gonna last about half of a year, and you
need to prepare for that before it rains. Because winsher
wipers aren't that expensive. Just make sure that they that
you change them, because you do not want a bad
situation on the day that it does pour down and
you're driving and you're like, oh my god, I can't
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sit with these Winschill wipers. Don't do it. It's a
safety issue. And number five, this one I had to
learn the hard way and I had to tell my
kids the exact same thing. Thank God, it hasn't happened
to them, and I hope that they are either listening
or doing this. Do not leave valuables in lane sight.
I'm an idia. I left my window open.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Someone took a bite on my burrito. I really hear
Baker's Field, like, do.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Not leave your car and leave a bag on the
front seat, in the back seat, anything, put it on
the floor, put it in the trunk. And yes, I
know people are out here in Atlanta, San Francisco and
everywhere else cracking in trunks and cars that are parked,
But do not give a window shopper an opportunity where
they weren't even trying to window shop. Don't do it.
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I had this happen to me because my rookie year,
Fred Taylor, who's been a guest on The Unafraid Show,
gave all the linemen and tight ends, gave us nice
Louis Duffel bags the little Brown Joint. It was my
first Louis. I was excited. I took He gave it
to us on Saturday morning. I took it on the
trip with us. When we left Saturday afternoon, put my
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nice new Jordan concords in there, a toiletry bag. Every man,
I'm feeling fresh, boy, I'm like bro, I'm feeling I
got my first Louis. We fly back from the game
and we leave straight from the airport. We go to
this club. I left my bag sitting right on the
front seat, and you know what, when we came out
of the club, window shattered, sh everything, bag gone. I
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learned the hard way, so you don't don't have to.
So make sure you're sending this to your kids, or
you don't do these things kids, please, and now back
the ball. Last up on the Unafraid Show, we need
to talk about somebody that was truly unafraid to be
themselves This week and it's mister Jason Kelsey. This dude
was at the Bill's Chiefs game in Buffalo, loving and
supporting his brother Travis like nobody was watching. And I
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never I repeat, I never thought I would see the
day when an NFL center was a media darling because
they don't get pressed like that. But between the New
Heights podcast that Jason hosts with his brother Travis that's
number one in podcast, his Christmas album, the Amazon documentary
that followed him through the last season, and the fact
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that he somehow beat me me out for the twenty
twenty three People Magazine Sexiest Man of the Year nomination,
the dude is having a pretty good run. And yes
we're talking about Jason, not Travis Taylor Swift's boyfriend. Now,
last week, with the Eagles out of the playoffs, in
Jason Kelsey rumored to be done playing football, we got
to watch the man cut loose in Buffalo, and I
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am confident in saying that Jason Kelsey isn't the first
or even a millionth man in the history of Buffalo,
New York to drink out of a bowling ball and
then walk around outdoors and nothing but a pair of
Russell Athletics sweats and some tembulance tied up real tight.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And this was a.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Multimillionaire but he's definitely got to be the first one
to do it while hanging out with Taylor Swift. Side note,
I saw the thousands and thousands of you complaining about
shots of Taylor Swift after every play of the Chiefs games.
But to all of the dads and moms in America
curled up on the couch with their daughters last weekend
who don't normally watch football and they were tolerating the
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game in between watching their kid light up during the
shots of Taylor Swift, I see you, but don't let
these grouches out there are still your joy. But back
to Jason Kelsey, though, do you know how good it
must have felt for him to just be a fan,
to let loose and support his brother like that. Football
locker rooms can be like a family. Just ask them
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kids who were staying at Arizona after Jed Fish left,
and when I put my pads on, it really felt
like I was going to war with my brothers. As
good as that feels, though, that type of family is
no replacement for your flesh and blood. You could see
that bond in the way that Jason was rooting on Travis.
And to be honest, if Jason really is done playing,
I admire and love the fact that he got to
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go out on his own terms with a Sugar Bowl appearance,
a Super Bowl ring, seven Pro Bowls, and his health.
Because not all of us get to decide when we're done,
because the game usually decides for us, just like it
did for me. But whether you get to hang up
your own cleats or the game hung them up for you,
there's nothing like falling back in love with your sport
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as a fan of the game. When I finished playing,
I went through the depression of being done, like everybody
else does, because something that you put your blood, sweat
and tears into for so long, so for the majority
of your life, by that point is over and it's done.
And I couldn't watch the NFL for years because I
knew I could still play, but my neck. That's even
though I couldn't watch the league, I still could watch
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college and high school football because I love football. And
now over a decade later, when I'm out as a
dad and I'm watching my kids or my nephew. I'm
a fan at that point, and it's a different feeling. Now.
There are things that I've loved to see, like getting
to watch lebron James in person, supporting Bryce and Bronnie
on the basketball court like he was a normal dad.
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You get to see a different side of him and
know he wasn't on the sideline crushing beers, shirtless and
sweats and timberlands at least not yet though. But everybody
is different because something about unconditionally rooting for other people.
Make sure true colors come out and all the branding
and veneer and professionalism they go out the window, and
at the end of the day, you get to be yourself.
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And I bet Sunday was one of the best days
of Jason Kelsey's life, and I'm grateful he was unafraid
enough to share with the rest of us. And that's
the Unafraid Show. Thank you guys for your time. Make
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bring you great guests, great segments, and everything in between.
And next week we got Greg McElroy in the building.
College Football Analysts Champion over there at Alabama Crimson Tide,
and we gotta get into it.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Peace Out,