February 6, 2025 • 29 mins
Dennis Schröder believes the NBA governors ability to trade players is modern day slavery and he couldn’t be any more wrong, and it’s not just about the money. NBA got players attention this week. The Fallout from the Luka Doncic trade to the LA Lakers has been felt all over the NBA. What does it mean? Deion Sanders was right.
There should be different sections of the Hall of Fame.Eli Manning is likely going to be in and fans have no idea what hall of famers should look like Kansas City Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and it is 100% ok to root for them.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Unafraid Show Daily Live, and we got to talk about
what Dennis Shrewder said, because this dude believes that the NBA,
that the governor's ability to trade players is modern day slavery,
and this dude couldn't be any more wrong. And it's
not even about the money. We also got to talk
about the NBA players the well, the NBA. They got
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the players' attention this week because the fallout from the
Luca Doncas trade to the Lakers has been felt all
over the NBA and what does that mean. I'll give
you the answers, and Dion Sanders was one hundred percent right.
There should be two different Hall of Fames now that
Eli Manning is going to be in likely and fans
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literally have no idea what Hall of Famer should look
like at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's all let everybody in.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And the Kansas City Chiefs are in the super Bowl
and it is one hundred percent okay to root for them.
That and so much more here on The Unafraid Show
Ailey Live. Make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications,
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comments and share. Let's get to it, all, right, so
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we're gonna kick this thing off today with Dennis Shrewder,
longtime NBA player, man who's made a hundred well over
one hundred million dollars in his career. I said, it's
not about the money, but the money is an important
piece of this thing. So he said that the NBA
is modern day slavery. At the end of the day,
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everybody can decide where you're going, even if you have
a contract. Yeah, of course we make a lot of
money and we can feed our families.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But at the end of the day, if they say.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You're not coming back to work tomorrow, you're going over there,
they can decide that, and they got to change that
a little bit. But it is but still grateful that
we're here and that we can live this every single day.
I think everybody who's in here is blessed. But if
you really think about it, it's kind of crazy that
the organization can tell you we want you to be
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team first, but you're going over there. It's a lot
so on one hand, right just the idea, because the
headline dominates these things, and people don't see past the headline.
A lot of times they see, oh, it's like slavery.
Terrible choice of a comparison, but it But most people
aren't going to read the whole quote where he's like, yo,
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I get it. We live a great life, but it's hard.
Now Here is where Dennis Shrewder has completely missed the boat.
This is the life that you sign up for, and
it's also why you are so handsomely paid.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
To do what you do.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is because there is some sort of you know, you
are paid to deal with hard stuff. You are paid
handsomely to give up some of your physical well being
because you're expected to play hurt. You know that there's
gonna be lingering effects from playing in your career.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Damn elbow hurting right now needs.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All of that stuff You give up that for the
life that you and your dream that you get to live.
Now Here is another factor on Dennis Shrewder's slavery comment.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Of course the money versus not that that goes without saying.
But players do have leverage to be in situations or
out of situation. Still in the NBA, we've seen players
ask for trades and they are granted. We when players
are free agents. Look at what Kevin Durant did. I
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bet your Oklahoma City would have loved to keep Kevin Durant,
but he decided to go to Golden State. Golden State
wanted to keep them, he decided to go to Brooklyn.
James Harden has forced his way out of three different places.
So that that's the inherent problem with Dennis Shrewder's comment
is that players do have freedom and opportunity to decide
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where they want to be, but the the like they
don't even let you call the NBA owners owners no more,
they're governors because they don't even want the slavery connotation
at all. So there has to be some sort of
leverage and opportunity for the player for the owners. And
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but one unique aspect of it is is that when
players get traded sometimes that is the best thing for them.
It is not necessarily the worst thing for them. Isn't inconvenient, Yes,
did you get to choose? No, But think about a
guy like Jake Clumber when he got traded by the
Broncos to Tampa. When Jake Cutler took over in Denver,
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and instead of reporting to Tampa to play for Gruden
to just retire, slaves cannot retire. That's a another aspect
of it, and I know that, and it's funny because
this happens to everybody in life.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Dennis Shrewder fell into.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
An easy trap that we all fall into in our lives,
which is we're paying so much attention to our own
life and our own situation that we can't see what
else is going out on out in the world. So,
if you are a father, a mother, if there's anything
going on stuff your kids are going through with their school,
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worker like, sometimes it is hard.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
To see the forest for the trees.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You can see the negative things that are going on
with your kids, with your wife at work, but you
don't necessarily look at it from the bigger picture and
be like, ah, well, listen, there are some tough things
going on, but overall this is really good, and that
there are positives within this negative and sometimes because we're
so insulated and focused on our own work, that those
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negative things actually feel bigger than they are now. I'm
a player that has never been traded. I never got
traded while I was playing in the NFL, and I
would imagine, yes, that would be very disruptive. I know
players now and former players who had to leave certain
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places and leave organizations, their kids were in school, their
parents lived there, all sorts of stuff, and it is
highly inconvenient, there is no doubt about that. But the
idea that this is my modern day slavery is completely wrong,
completely false, And it also makes the players look bad
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in that the headline is going to dominate, so it
doesn't feel like there's an appreciation for what you get back.
And there is nothing perfect in life. There's no perfect
place to live. I live in Cali, love it here right.
There are earthquakes, time, it costs. It's very expensive to
live here in California. If you live in Kansas, you
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gotta deal with not great weather. You're not near the
ocean and you get tornadoes. You live in Miami, you
gotta deal with the humidity and hurricanes. You live in
the Northeast, you gotta deal with bad weather, cyclone, bombs,
and all sorts of stuff. So there are different things
no matter where you live. Nothing is perfect. Same thing
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with whether you work, your marriage, your kids, whatever it is.
Nothing is perfect. And so to equate the negative part
of being in the NBA to slavery, Dennis Shrewder one
hundred percent missed the boat on that one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
All right, Next thing up, So, speaking of that right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The Luka Dancik's trade, there was a lot of fallout
from it because it got the player's attention. You had
Luca under his former teammate's picture on Instagram PJ Washington.
He's holding his newborn baby, and Luca comments underneath, hey,
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congrats man, hold on to that baby. Try tight the
way they don't trade him too. It hurt his heart.
You had Anthony Edwards sit there like yo, minute, Minnesota,
if you want to trade me, please.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just let me know. Ad was stunned. He was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He said he was watching them. Regardless whether you believe
it or not. He said he was watching a movie
with his with his wife when he got the news.
You saw NBA players finding out on the bench crazy.
Everybody was shocked. They are getting the player's attention. They
are no longer allowing the players to run.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What is going on. The NBA is taking back to power.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And you have players who have who have no trade
clauses and things in their contract, like a Bradley Bill.
Bradley Bill ain't trying to leave Phoenix. He can control
where he goes. But you know who can't. Kevin Durant,
who may be on the trade block, right now and
may find himself back with the Golden State Warriors if
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they will.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Move Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So there's a lot to go, there's a lot to unpack,
and players are feeling uneasy, they are feeling the pressure.
They are feeling like, oh my god, if Luca's not
safe where he is and untradeable, how am I not untradeable?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Just the truth?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And you have teams that are like the Luca noncious trade.
Let me equate this to something that happened to me.
So in twenty ten, I got arrested. I was at
my parents' house. I had just come back from Vegas
playing in the UFL not too long prior. At one
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hundred thousand dollars car parked outside. There was a there
was knock on the door five something in the morning.
I'm actually in the bed with my son's mom.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Wake up.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm like, what the hell's going going on? Neighbor talking
about GPS charger. I couldn't understand what they were saying.
It's kind of drizzling outside. It's December twenty second, twenty third,
somewhere around there. And to make a long story short,
I got arrested for something that I did not do
for allegedly stealing a phone charger and a GPS right,
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which is insane, Like if you know me, know my situation,
anything like that, that would make no damn sense. So
and what that did to me in my life was
it ruined all the sense of like safety and the
idea if I don't do anything wrong, I won't get arrested.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It just threw that out of the window.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
So now there is a part of me that at
any point in time knows whether I did something I
was supposed wasn't supposed to do or not or did
that A knock can come on my door while I'm
in the house minding my own business and put me
in handcuffs and take.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Me to jail.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So that created an uncertainty, a permanent uncertainty in my life. Now,
this Luca Dantets trade has created that permanent uncertainty in
every NBA player's life, except for the ones that have
no trade clauses like Bradley Beal Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's what it did. So players, it has their attention.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You got the Warriors, they're desperate to make one last
shot at an NBA title while they still got Lebron well,
while they still got Steph Curry. And then you got
the Lakers, ok see san Antonio trying to be the
leaders of the league for.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The next decade.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The Milwaukee Bucks they moved on from a guy who
helped them win a championship in Chris Middleton after twelve years.
And then the Rockets are out here floating the idea
that they want Devin Booker. So it is crazy craziness.
And the Luka Doncic press conference.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I and.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The Dallas Mavericks press conference, all of them. You could
see in Luka Doncic's face, you could see in Jason Kids'
face and uneasiness and.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just like a goddamn like bro, like is this real life?
Am I dreaming? Or is this real life? Now?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Everybody might end up the better for it, but this
is something that changes life forever for Luka Doncic and
creates that uneasiness in the rest of the NBA because
the owners governors are taking the power back just what
it is.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And now.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Anybody that has listened to me on the Nightcap on
Sirius ex Sam, you've listened to anything around here. Everybody
knows that George Reis does not believe that Eli Manning
has any business in the Hall of Fame and he
is likely to get in the Hall of Fame. He
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may get in on this vote, which is his first
year eligible, which would be absolute insanity. I mean, like
that would take him being in the Hall of Fame
and take it up a.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Notch to pure insanity.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And this made me go back to a clip that
Dion Sanders made a video of him that completely justifies
how I feel about Eli Manning being in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Just have a conversation about the Hall of Fame, boy
for job, you know, and uh, the conversation is that
the Hall of Fame ain't the Hall of Fame no more.
I love it, I respect it, I'd married. I think
all the guys who are inducted definitely are deserving. But
it needs to be a different color jacket.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
My jacket gotta be a different color it. Uh, it
need to be a starting starting eleven. It need to
be an upper room. My head don't belong with some
of these other heads that's in the Hall of Fame.
Put my head. What they call them bus well, I
call them the head buss. Put my buss. Put my head,
my head. Do that put my head with my head
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supposed to be my head, don't suppose to be by him.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And you know what, Dion Sanders is one hundred percent right.
Eli Manning is not like his brother Peyton Manning. He
doesn't belong in there with Tom Brady, doesn't belong in
there with Joe Montana, does not belong in there with
Dan Marino, does not belong in there with the upper
echelon of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He's just not that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And I had a chance to spend a little bit
of time with Eli when I had a cup of
coffee with the Giants. This is no slight on Eli
the person. Eli the person is cool, nothing there. But
when we're talking about the best of the best, this
makes no sense because Eli Manning in his career. Well, actually,
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first we actually have to define a cutoff for where
people are where that if he's not better than this guy,
doesn't matter what happened, that he shouldn't be in the NFL.
I mean the Hall of Fame. And maybe that guy's
Kurt Warner. Right, dudes got one super Bowl, two MVPs,
three conference titles, and a lot of people think that
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that's a marginal Hall of fame resume, So I'm not
mad at that. So think about Eli Manning in comparison
to Kurt Warner, who some people believe is a French
Hall of Famer. Eli Manning was never first or second
team All Pro in his entire career, and the dude
has never even received one single MVP vote. So if
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you've never been first or second team All Pro, that
means you've never been the best quarterback in the league,
or the second best quarterback in the league, or the
third best quarterback ever, and you have never even received
a single solitary MVP vote. How are you getting in
the Hall of Fame? Two Super Bowl runs over the
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course of a sixteen year career where you made the
playoffs six times, four of them one and out. Three
of those games.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Didn't passed for over one hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Five hundred career regular season record, two hundred and forty
four interceptions, which is basically the same as Drew Brees,
but with two hundred plus less touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Because it feels like I'm hating on this man, but
I'm not. This feels like that this needs to be
protection for the Hall of Fame because fans and when
I have sports discussions with people, it makes it drives
me crazy because one of the things that I continuously
hear and you guys can hop into comments, make sure
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and share somebody who needs to hear this.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
When we're talking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
When I'm talking to people about sports, I continuously hear.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh, this guy is a Hall of Fame player. Look
at Josh Allen, He's a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Ain't nothing nothing that Josh Allen has done so far
should be in the Hall of Fame. Is he a
very good player? Now, yes, we got to stack up
at the end of his career. I hear this in
other sports. Oh, that guy is a Hall of Famer.
How sway, how Like you can't tell me that Paul
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George is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
He may be in the basketball Hall of Fame, but
that also doesn't leave it in exclusive territory because because
Paul George and Scottie Pippen don't belong in the same conversation,
just saying there has to be exclusive exclusivity to getting
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that gold jacket, and you're talking to a player who
did not have a career that was good enough to
have a gold jacket. And that's also why I wanted protected.
Like I'm okay with Chad Johnson not being in the
Hall of Fame. Was Chad one of the best wide
receivers while he was in the league. Yes, but you're
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it's a combination of stats, relevance, and some of the
things you do, and sometimes the team's success is calculated
in that. And Eli Manning two super Bowls, two Super
Bowl MVPs, he had two really good runs. But when
you look at his career, a guy who led the
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league in interceptions at least three times twenty twenty five,
twenty seven in the middle of his career, sixty percent
completion percentage, fifty seven thousand yards, set one seventeen and
one seventeen as a starter. What are we talking about?
And then we go to the playoffs one in oh
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and one, one hundred and thirteen yards passing, oh and
two one sixty one, Super Bowl, oh and one, one
hundred and sixty nine yards passing, Next time, Super Bowl,
next time, oh and one, two hundred and ninety nine
yards passing, a touchdown and a pick.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Come on, man, I mean, what are we talking about.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And there are a bunch of other players who have
gotten in the Hall of Fame because this is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Not just an Eli Manning thing. Look at a guy
like Joe Namath.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
If Joe Namath did not play in New York and
then called the Super Bowl that they guaranteed that the
Jets were gonna win, and that believe super Bowl three
can't getting into the Hall of Fame. There's nothing about
Joe Namath stats that or the performance on the field
that makes you think he's one of the greatest quarterbacks
of all time.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, just not the truth. Look at a guy, and
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Use two guys as a prime example, and these two
dudes were wonderful players. One of them is at least
a great guy. I don't know the other one. And
Curtis Martin and Frank Gored. There is not a point
in time in either one of their careers that they
were the best running back in the NFL. Yes, Curtis
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Martin will let the league in Russian one year, I believe,
but at the end of the he was never considered
one of the best backs in the league, and especially
not in that era. But sometimes an accumulation of stats
can lead to it. We gotta look at guys like
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Bob Greasie, who was split in time for part of
his career. There's a lot of it just saying it's
not a knock on. Guys are trying to smear guy's
careers because they were great players. But there's a difference
between Drew Brees and Eli Manning. They should not be
in the same crowning achievement for careers. I don't know
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if this is gonna get get me ousted from the
Manning cast, but truth is the truth, and Eli would
tell you he didn't have the same type of career
as Peyton. However, Peyton's success and that last name has
also benefited Eli Manning and who.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
They beat in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
If Eli Manning was in the same situation and he
had beaten I don't know, Steve McNair, or he had
beaten Trent Green in the Super Bowl, would he still
be Oh, he's a lot for a Hall of Famer. No, right,
and they consider it beating Tom Brady. But I would
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say that straighthan oc human Eura and Brandon Jacobs, and
that Mario manningham catch and that David Tyree Ketch had
a lot to do with that thing too, Just Sam
And speaking of Super Bowls, though, people, it is okay
to root for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It is okay.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They are getting hounded and bombarded with these ridiculous questions
that media about the refs and oh, how's it feel
to have the refs on your side?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Who do you love?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Mark Taylor Swift for fifteen yard penalties? I'd be like, man,
you know, get the hell up on my face. Man,
that diminishes the work. But here's the thing. You got
so many people sitting up here talking about, Oh, I'm
sick of Patrick Mahomes and the Kelsey brothers and Travis
and Taylor Swift and Andy Reid. But that's what everybody
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outside the circle of success says about literally every single
dynasty while it's happening. During COVID, we were at home
watching the last dance and everybody was all excited, feeling
real good, reliving the Michael Jordan and the Bulls glory days,
thinking about the drama between him and Scotti. But people
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literally hated the Bulls while it was happening. And as
much as Jordan hated the Pistons while they were keeping
him from his glory and the Jordan rules and all
of that. Man, people didn't want Michael Jordan to win.
They weren't celebrating him like that. They wanted it to
be over. The same way with the Chiefs. Think about
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everybody who was involved in the Cowboys three championships in
four years. Oh, they get patted on the back from it.
They go from their media gigs. You got Michael Irvin,
Darren Sharp, Darren Woodson, you got Troy Aikman.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But everybody's out out there eat.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And but people hated the Cowboys when they were winning,
and they feel now that the Cowboys are popular for
no reason.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They hated it in that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The exact same thing with Tom Brady when he was
winning the Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Think about how people have softened on the Patriots and
Tom Brady since the flake Gate, since by Yate, since
all of that. Because the run was over. You got
a chance to have peace. And when I talk to people,
they hate the Chiefs so much. There's no reason, and
it's not gonna help. It's only going to make you
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more miserable. When they go out and hoist the Trophy again,
and Patrick Mahost is sitting there with his froggy voice.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Getting all excited.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Now, you guys, just enjoy a thing while it's happening.
Appreciate the greatness. Appreciate we get a chance to see
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It doesn't make you a front runner.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You can still have your team, But when your team
is no longer in it, and you get a chance
to see three super Bowls in a row in a
league that pushes parody, oh, be excited about it. Enjoy
it because you may never see it again. And for
people who say it's the parody that makes the NFL popular,
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the NBA has been on a downward trajectory for years
and they haven't had a repeat champion since twenty eighteen. Also,
if you think about it, what the Chiefs are doing
isn't dominance. Remember that old Yukon women's basketball, like that
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oh excuse that no one likes to watch because they
knew who was gonna win every single game because they
were all blowouts.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The Chiefs aren't blowing anybody out.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Their path to the Super Bowl have been a bunch
of close games and Patrick Mahomes has had to come
back in a fourth quarter deficit in all three Super
Bowls that he's played, well, all three Super Bowls that
he's won, and then the fourth that he played in.
And this year you have a Chiefs team that has
only scored thirty plus points one time this entire season.
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They don't have a true left tackle, they don't have
a single wide receiver in the top fifty in the
NFL in either receptions or yards. They don't have a
running back in the top thirty in rushing yards. And
their best offensive player is a thirty five year old
tight end that has only missed six games in the
last eleven seasons, including the playoffs. And that's a lot
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of wear and tearing a body I would know and
know from all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm not saying the Chiefs are underdogs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But this is as blemished of a champion as you
could possibly be.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
On offense.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
This is in a two thousand and eight Steelers or
two thousand and fifteen Broncos level offense.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's just the truth. But here is my prediction.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Because the spread in this game one and a half
and that one and a half, it reflects the money back,
not the reality. Because the Eagles have a better offense,
they're ranked higher.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
They got a much.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Better defense, and Kansas City's advantages are in the coaching,
special teams and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's what they got.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I am going to take the Kansas City Chiefs to
win this football game, win their third Super Bowl in
a row.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Patrick Mahomes will be.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
All of the where I told you he's the best
quarterback to ever tie up shoes told you that two
years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Oh George, ain't no way.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh now the world will be coming around the over
under in this game forty eight and a half. Take
the over Kansas City scoring some damn points, and the
top four for MVP odds Patrick Mahomes at plus one ten,
Sakwan Barkley at plus two to eighty, Jalen Hurts at
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plus three fifty, and Travis Kelty at plus eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Listen, go with the money. You're gonna have two options.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's either gonna be Patrick Mahomes because the Chiefs win
because of all the other reasons that we mentioned.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No left tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Travis Kelsey's your best offensive weapon, and the love is
going to be spread around for everybody else. It's either
going to be that or it is going to be
Saquon Barkley, because if Saquon Barkley goes off, that's the
way the Eagles can win. Jalen Hurts can play well
and still lose like he did in the last Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So put your.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
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peace out, Catch you guys tomorrow with college football action.
Unafraid Show Daily Live, and we got to talk about
what Dennis Shrewder said, because this dude believes that the NBA,
that the governor's ability to trade players is modern day slavery,
and this dude couldn't be any more wrong. And it's
not even about the money. We also got to talk
about the NBA players the well, the NBA. They got
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the players' attention this week because the fallout from the
Luca Doncas trade to the Lakers has been felt all
over the NBA and what does that mean. I'll give
you the answers, and Dion Sanders was one hundred percent right.
There should be two different Hall of Fames now that
Eli Manning is going to be in likely and fans
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literally have no idea what Hall of Famer should look
like at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's all let everybody in.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And the Kansas City Chiefs are in the super Bowl
and it is one hundred percent okay to root for them.
That and so much more here on The Unafraid Show
Ailey Live. Make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications,
tell a friend about the show, most importantly, hopping them
comments and share. Let's get to it, all, right, so
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we're gonna kick this thing off today with Dennis Shrewder,
longtime NBA player, man who's made a hundred well over
one hundred million dollars in his career. I said, it's
not about the money, but the money is an important
piece of this thing. So he said that the NBA
is modern day slavery. At the end of the day,
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everybody can decide where you're going, even if you have
a contract. Yeah, of course we make a lot of
money and we can feed our families.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But at the end of the day, if they say.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You're not coming back to work tomorrow, you're going over there,
they can decide that, and they got to change that
a little bit. But it is but still grateful that
we're here and that we can live this every single day.
I think everybody who's in here is blessed. But if
you really think about it, it's kind of crazy that
the organization can tell you we want you to be
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team first, but you're going over there. It's a lot
so on one hand, right just the idea, because the
headline dominates these things, and people don't see past the headline.
A lot of times they see, oh, it's like slavery.
Terrible choice of a comparison, but it But most people
aren't going to read the whole quote where he's like, yo,
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I get it. We live a great life, but it's hard.
Now Here is where Dennis Shrewder has completely missed the boat.
This is the life that you sign up for, and
it's also why you are so handsomely paid.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
To do what you do.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is because there is some sort of you know, you
are paid to deal with hard stuff. You are paid
handsomely to give up some of your physical well being
because you're expected to play hurt. You know that there's
gonna be lingering effects from playing in your career.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Damn elbow hurting right now needs.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All of that stuff You give up that for the
life that you and your dream that you get to live.
Now Here is another factor on Dennis Shrewder's slavery comment.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Of course the money versus not that that goes without saying.
But players do have leverage to be in situations or
out of situation. Still in the NBA, we've seen players
ask for trades and they are granted. We when players
are free agents. Look at what Kevin Durant did. I
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bet your Oklahoma City would have loved to keep Kevin Durant,
but he decided to go to Golden State. Golden State
wanted to keep them, he decided to go to Brooklyn.
James Harden has forced his way out of three different places.
So that that's the inherent problem with Dennis Shrewder's comment
is that players do have freedom and opportunity to decide
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where they want to be, but the the like they
don't even let you call the NBA owners owners no more,
they're governors because they don't even want the slavery connotation
at all. So there has to be some sort of
leverage and opportunity for the player for the owners. And
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but one unique aspect of it is is that when
players get traded sometimes that is the best thing for them.
It is not necessarily the worst thing for them. Isn't inconvenient, Yes,
did you get to choose? No, But think about a
guy like Jake Clumber when he got traded by the
Broncos to Tampa. When Jake Cutler took over in Denver,
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and instead of reporting to Tampa to play for Gruden
to just retire, slaves cannot retire. That's a another aspect
of it, and I know that, and it's funny because
this happens to everybody in life.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Dennis Shrewder fell into.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
An easy trap that we all fall into in our lives,
which is we're paying so much attention to our own
life and our own situation that we can't see what
else is going out on out in the world. So,
if you are a father, a mother, if there's anything
going on stuff your kids are going through with their school,
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worker like, sometimes it is hard.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
To see the forest for the trees.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You can see the negative things that are going on
with your kids, with your wife at work, but you
don't necessarily look at it from the bigger picture and
be like, ah, well, listen, there are some tough things
going on, but overall this is really good, and that
there are positives within this negative and sometimes because we're
so insulated and focused on our own work, that those
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negative things actually feel bigger than they are now. I'm
a player that has never been traded. I never got
traded while I was playing in the NFL, and I
would imagine, yes, that would be very disruptive. I know
players now and former players who had to leave certain
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places and leave organizations, their kids were in school, their
parents lived there, all sorts of stuff, and it is
highly inconvenient, there is no doubt about that. But the
idea that this is my modern day slavery is completely wrong,
completely false, And it also makes the players look bad
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in that the headline is going to dominate, so it
doesn't feel like there's an appreciation for what you get back.
And there is nothing perfect in life. There's no perfect
place to live. I live in Cali, love it here right.
There are earthquakes, time, it costs. It's very expensive to
live here in California. If you live in Kansas, you
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gotta deal with not great weather. You're not near the
ocean and you get tornadoes. You live in Miami, you
gotta deal with the humidity and hurricanes. You live in
the Northeast, you gotta deal with bad weather, cyclone, bombs,
and all sorts of stuff. So there are different things
no matter where you live. Nothing is perfect. Same thing
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with whether you work, your marriage, your kids, whatever it is.
Nothing is perfect. And so to equate the negative part
of being in the NBA to slavery, Dennis Shrewder one
hundred percent missed the boat on that one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
All right, Next thing up, So, speaking of that right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The Luka Dancik's trade, there was a lot of fallout
from it because it got the player's attention. You had
Luca under his former teammate's picture on Instagram PJ Washington.
He's holding his newborn baby, and Luca comments underneath, hey,
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congrats man, hold on to that baby. Try tight the
way they don't trade him too. It hurt his heart.
You had Anthony Edwards sit there like yo, minute, Minnesota,
if you want to trade me, please.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just let me know. Ad was stunned. He was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He said he was watching them. Regardless whether you believe
it or not. He said he was watching a movie
with his with his wife when he got the news.
You saw NBA players finding out on the bench crazy.
Everybody was shocked. They are getting the player's attention. They
are no longer allowing the players to run.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What is going on. The NBA is taking back to power.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And you have players who have who have no trade
clauses and things in their contract, like a Bradley Bill.
Bradley Bill ain't trying to leave Phoenix. He can control
where he goes. But you know who can't. Kevin Durant,
who may be on the trade block, right now and
may find himself back with the Golden State Warriors if
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they will.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Move Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So there's a lot to go, there's a lot to unpack,
and players are feeling uneasy, they are feeling the pressure.
They are feeling like, oh my god, if Luca's not
safe where he is and untradeable, how am I not untradeable?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Just the truth?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And you have teams that are like the Luca noncious trade.
Let me equate this to something that happened to me.
So in twenty ten, I got arrested. I was at
my parents' house. I had just come back from Vegas
playing in the UFL not too long prior. At one
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hundred thousand dollars car parked outside. There was a there
was knock on the door five something in the morning.
I'm actually in the bed with my son's mom.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Wake up.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm like, what the hell's going going on? Neighbor talking
about GPS charger. I couldn't understand what they were saying.
It's kind of drizzling outside. It's December twenty second, twenty third,
somewhere around there. And to make a long story short,
I got arrested for something that I did not do
for allegedly stealing a phone charger and a GPS right,
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which is insane, Like if you know me, know my situation,
anything like that, that would make no damn sense. So
and what that did to me in my life was
it ruined all the sense of like safety and the
idea if I don't do anything wrong, I won't get arrested.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It just threw that out of the window.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
So now there is a part of me that at
any point in time knows whether I did something I
was supposed wasn't supposed to do or not or did
that A knock can come on my door while I'm
in the house minding my own business and put me
in handcuffs and take.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Me to jail.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So that created an uncertainty, a permanent uncertainty in my life. Now,
this Luca Dantets trade has created that permanent uncertainty in
every NBA player's life, except for the ones that have
no trade clauses like Bradley Beal Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's what it did. So players, it has their attention.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You got the Warriors, they're desperate to make one last
shot at an NBA title while they still got Lebron well,
while they still got Steph Curry. And then you got
the Lakers, ok see san Antonio trying to be the
leaders of the league for.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The next decade.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The Milwaukee Bucks they moved on from a guy who
helped them win a championship in Chris Middleton after twelve years.
And then the Rockets are out here floating the idea
that they want Devin Booker. So it is crazy craziness.
And the Luka Doncic press conference.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I and.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The Dallas Mavericks press conference, all of them. You could
see in Luka Doncic's face, you could see in Jason Kids'
face and uneasiness and.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just like a goddamn like bro, like is this real life?
Am I dreaming? Or is this real life? Now?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Everybody might end up the better for it, but this
is something that changes life forever for Luka Doncic and
creates that uneasiness in the rest of the NBA because
the owners governors are taking the power back just what
it is.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And now.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Anybody that has listened to me on the Nightcap on
Sirius ex Sam, you've listened to anything around here. Everybody
knows that George Reis does not believe that Eli Manning
has any business in the Hall of Fame and he
is likely to get in the Hall of Fame. He
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may get in on this vote, which is his first
year eligible, which would be absolute insanity. I mean, like
that would take him being in the Hall of Fame
and take it up a.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Notch to pure insanity.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And this made me go back to a clip that
Dion Sanders made a video of him that completely justifies
how I feel about Eli Manning being in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Just have a conversation about the Hall of Fame, boy
for job, you know, and uh, the conversation is that
the Hall of Fame ain't the Hall of Fame no more.
I love it, I respect it, I'd married. I think
all the guys who are inducted definitely are deserving. But
it needs to be a different color jacket.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
My jacket gotta be a different color it. Uh, it
need to be a starting starting eleven. It need to
be an upper room. My head don't belong with some
of these other heads that's in the Hall of Fame.
Put my head. What they call them bus well, I
call them the head buss. Put my buss. Put my head,
my head. Do that put my head with my head
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supposed to be my head, don't suppose to be by him.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And you know what, Dion Sanders is one hundred percent right.
Eli Manning is not like his brother Peyton Manning. He
doesn't belong in there with Tom Brady, doesn't belong in
there with Joe Montana, does not belong in there with
Dan Marino, does not belong in there with the upper
echelon of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He's just not that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And I had a chance to spend a little bit
of time with Eli when I had a cup of
coffee with the Giants. This is no slight on Eli
the person. Eli the person is cool, nothing there. But
when we're talking about the best of the best, this
makes no sense because Eli Manning in his career. Well, actually,
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first we actually have to define a cutoff for where
people are where that if he's not better than this guy,
doesn't matter what happened, that he shouldn't be in the NFL.
I mean the Hall of Fame. And maybe that guy's
Kurt Warner. Right, dudes got one super Bowl, two MVPs,
three conference titles, and a lot of people think that
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that's a marginal Hall of fame resume, So I'm not
mad at that. So think about Eli Manning in comparison
to Kurt Warner, who some people believe is a French
Hall of Famer. Eli Manning was never first or second
team All Pro in his entire career, and the dude
has never even received one single MVP vote. So if
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you've never been first or second team All Pro, that
means you've never been the best quarterback in the league,
or the second best quarterback in the league, or the
third best quarterback ever, and you have never even received
a single solitary MVP vote. How are you getting in
the Hall of Fame? Two Super Bowl runs over the
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course of a sixteen year career where you made the
playoffs six times, four of them one and out. Three
of those games.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Didn't passed for over one hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Five hundred career regular season record, two hundred and forty
four interceptions, which is basically the same as Drew Brees,
but with two hundred plus less touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Because it feels like I'm hating on this man, but
I'm not. This feels like that this needs to be
protection for the Hall of Fame because fans and when
I have sports discussions with people, it makes it drives
me crazy because one of the things that I continuously
hear and you guys can hop into comments, make sure
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that you leave them, make sure that you like, subscribe
and share somebody who needs to hear this.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
When we're talking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
When I'm talking to people about sports, I continuously hear.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh, this guy is a Hall of Fame player. Look
at Josh Allen, He's a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Ain't nothing nothing that Josh Allen has done so far
should be in the Hall of Fame. Is he a
very good player? Now, yes, we got to stack up
at the end of his career. I hear this in
other sports. Oh, that guy is a Hall of Famer.
How sway, how Like you can't tell me that Paul
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George is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
He may be in the basketball Hall of Fame, but
that also doesn't leave it in exclusive territory because because
Paul George and Scottie Pippen don't belong in the same conversation,
just saying there has to be exclusive exclusivity to getting
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that gold jacket, and you're talking to a player who
did not have a career that was good enough to
have a gold jacket. And that's also why I wanted protected.
Like I'm okay with Chad Johnson not being in the
Hall of Fame. Was Chad one of the best wide
receivers while he was in the league. Yes, but you're
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it's a combination of stats, relevance, and some of the
things you do, and sometimes the team's success is calculated
in that. And Eli Manning two super Bowls, two Super
Bowl MVPs, he had two really good runs. But when
you look at his career, a guy who led the
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league in interceptions at least three times twenty twenty five,
twenty seven in the middle of his career, sixty percent
completion percentage, fifty seven thousand yards, set one seventeen and
one seventeen as a starter. What are we talking about?
And then we go to the playoffs one in oh
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and one, one hundred and thirteen yards passing, oh and
two one sixty one, Super Bowl, oh and one, one
hundred and sixty nine yards passing, Next time, Super Bowl,
next time, oh and one, two hundred and ninety nine
yards passing, a touchdown and a pick.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Come on, man, I mean, what are we talking about.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And there are a bunch of other players who have
gotten in the Hall of Fame because this is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Not just an Eli Manning thing. Look at a guy
like Joe Namath.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
If Joe Namath did not play in New York and
then called the Super Bowl that they guaranteed that the
Jets were gonna win, and that believe super Bowl three
can't getting into the Hall of Fame. There's nothing about
Joe Namath stats that or the performance on the field
that makes you think he's one of the greatest quarterbacks
of all time.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, just not the truth. Look at a guy, and
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Use two guys as a prime example, and these two
dudes were wonderful players. One of them is at least
a great guy. I don't know the other one. And
Curtis Martin and Frank Gored. There is not a point
in time in either one of their careers that they
were the best running back in the NFL. Yes, Curtis
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Martin will let the league in Russian one year, I believe,
but at the end of the he was never considered
one of the best backs in the league, and especially
not in that era. But sometimes an accumulation of stats
can lead to it. We gotta look at guys like
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Bob Greasie, who was split in time for part of
his career. There's a lot of it just saying it's
not a knock on. Guys are trying to smear guy's
careers because they were great players. But there's a difference
between Drew Brees and Eli Manning. They should not be
in the same crowning achievement for careers. I don't know
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if this is gonna get get me ousted from the
Manning cast, but truth is the truth, and Eli would
tell you he didn't have the same type of career
as Peyton. However, Peyton's success and that last name has
also benefited Eli Manning and who.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
They beat in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
If Eli Manning was in the same situation and he
had beaten I don't know, Steve McNair, or he had
beaten Trent Green in the Super Bowl, would he still
be Oh, he's a lot for a Hall of Famer. No, right,
and they consider it beating Tom Brady. But I would
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say that straighthan oc human Eura and Brandon Jacobs, and
that Mario manningham catch and that David Tyree Ketch had
a lot to do with that thing too, Just Sam
And speaking of Super Bowls, though, people, it is okay
to root for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It is okay.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They are getting hounded and bombarded with these ridiculous questions
that media about the refs and oh, how's it feel
to have the refs on your side?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Who do you love?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Mark Taylor Swift for fifteen yard penalties? I'd be like, man,
you know, get the hell up on my face. Man,
that diminishes the work. But here's the thing. You got
so many people sitting up here talking about, Oh, I'm
sick of Patrick Mahomes and the Kelsey brothers and Travis
and Taylor Swift and Andy Reid. But that's what everybody
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outside the circle of success says about literally every single
dynasty while it's happening. During COVID, we were at home
watching the last dance and everybody was all excited, feeling
real good, reliving the Michael Jordan and the Bulls glory days,
thinking about the drama between him and Scotti. But people
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literally hated the Bulls while it was happening. And as
much as Jordan hated the Pistons while they were keeping
him from his glory and the Jordan rules and all
of that. Man, people didn't want Michael Jordan to win.
They weren't celebrating him like that. They wanted it to
be over. The same way with the Chiefs. Think about
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everybody who was involved in the Cowboys three championships in
four years. Oh, they get patted on the back from it.
They go from their media gigs. You got Michael Irvin,
Darren Sharp, Darren Woodson, you got Troy Aikman.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But everybody's out out there eat.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And but people hated the Cowboys when they were winning,
and they feel now that the Cowboys are popular for
no reason.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They hated it in that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The exact same thing with Tom Brady when he was
winning the Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Think about how people have softened on the Patriots and
Tom Brady since the flake Gate, since by Yate, since
all of that. Because the run was over. You got
a chance to have peace. And when I talk to people,
they hate the Chiefs so much. There's no reason, and
it's not gonna help. It's only going to make you
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more miserable. When they go out and hoist the Trophy again,
and Patrick Mahost is sitting there with his froggy voice.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Getting all excited.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Now, you guys, just enjoy a thing while it's happening.
Appreciate the greatness. Appreciate we get a chance to see
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It doesn't make you a front runner.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You can still have your team, But when your team
is no longer in it, and you get a chance
to see three super Bowls in a row in a
league that pushes parody, oh, be excited about it. Enjoy
it because you may never see it again. And for
people who say it's the parody that makes the NFL popular,
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the NBA has been on a downward trajectory for years
and they haven't had a repeat champion since twenty eighteen. Also,
if you think about it, what the Chiefs are doing
isn't dominance. Remember that old Yukon women's basketball, like that
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oh excuse that no one likes to watch because they
knew who was gonna win every single game because they
were all blowouts.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The Chiefs aren't blowing anybody out.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Their path to the Super Bowl have been a bunch
of close games and Patrick Mahomes has had to come
back in a fourth quarter deficit in all three Super
Bowls that he's played, well, all three Super Bowls that
he's won, and then the fourth that he played in.
And this year you have a Chiefs team that has
only scored thirty plus points one time this entire season.
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They don't have a true left tackle, they don't have
a single wide receiver in the top fifty in the
NFL in either receptions or yards. They don't have a
running back in the top thirty in rushing yards. And
their best offensive player is a thirty five year old
tight end that has only missed six games in the
last eleven seasons, including the playoffs. And that's a lot
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of wear and tearing a body I would know and
know from all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm not saying the Chiefs are underdogs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But this is as blemished of a champion as you
could possibly be.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
On offense.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
This is in a two thousand and eight Steelers or
two thousand and fifteen Broncos level offense.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's just the truth. But here is my prediction.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Because the spread in this game one and a half
and that one and a half, it reflects the money back,
not the reality. Because the Eagles have a better offense,
they're ranked higher.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
They got a much.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Better defense, and Kansas City's advantages are in the coaching,
special teams and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's what they got.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I am going to take the Kansas City Chiefs to
win this football game, win their third Super Bowl in
a row.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Patrick Mahomes will be.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
All of the where I told you he's the best
quarterback to ever tie up shoes told you that two
years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Oh George, ain't no way.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh now the world will be coming around the over
under in this game forty eight and a half. Take
the over Kansas City scoring some damn points, and the
top four for MVP odds Patrick Mahomes at plus one ten,
Sakwan Barkley at plus two to eighty, Jalen Hurts at
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plus three fifty, and Travis Kelty at plus eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Listen, go with the money. You're gonna have two options.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's either gonna be Patrick Mahomes because the Chiefs win
because of all the other reasons that we mentioned.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No left tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Travis Kelsey's your best offensive weapon, and the love is
going to be spread around for everybody else. It's either
going to be that or it is going to be
Saquon Barkley, because if Saquon Barkley goes off, that's the
way the Eagles can win. Jalen Hurts can play well
and still lose like he did in the last Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So put your.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Money where your mind's at, and you, guys, that's Unafraid
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