March 19, 2025 • 46 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today’s episode, Jay goes inside the huddle with Super Bowl Champion and 2021 Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Andrew Whitworth. Come on in and soak up the great laughs, phenomenal stories, and incredible mental wealth knowledge!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast,
build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm
Jay Glazer, and the guests I happened right now. Last
time I had him on is Andrew Whitworth, who's probably
the best looking guest I have ever had on this
show by far. Now, if you put the hat on me,
we lose the effect.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
No, no, no, I'm hiding.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But when he was on in the.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Past, it was a mental health podcast, and then what
I found was guys like myself, guys like Lane Johnson,
Michael Phelps. We're trying to show people that mental health
was not all gray, it's not all depression, anxiety, all this.
But I just kept still walking into these roadblocks where
people are like, Jay, I don't know if I want
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to come on and talk about darkness or talk about depression.
I'm like, that's not what mental health is about. So
I changed it to Mental Wealth. And the reason why
I did change in Mental Wealth is our whole point
of when you talk about mental health, it's not just like, hey,
this is where we are. We talk about mental health
so we can build ourselves up, so we can build
mental wealth.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
And you know, Andrew's guy.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
For all these athletes out there, those six inches between
your ears have mental health at least to mental wealth,
at least to generational wealth for your grandkids on that field.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And I want to you know, for every athlete out there,
every businessman. I want to really take people through.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We started training Win twelve years ago or something like that,
early days in mixed martial arts for him to help
himself turn football into a fight. But now Witch training
guys in a place called the village up.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
In Westlake Village, right, yep, uh yeah, Lake Village. So
he's taken.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now he's become the grasshopper, has become the what are
the things from kung thru?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
The grasshopper becomes to.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Me, I'm not a kung fu guy, but you spend
some wisdom on me.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Right, grasshopper becomes the teacher?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is? So we're gonna go kind of go over
together today. A lot of our training methodology all between
the years behind the ribcage of what really leads to greatness,
and that greatness again, it's not how famous you're being famous,
have the same as being.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Great, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, what you start with, how much work you
put in, and then the hours that you put into
work when no one's watching. So that's probably the longest
introduction I've ever had. First of all, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm good brother, I'm happy you have me on again. Man,
this is this is a great.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I love it. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You no obviously get the last time I had you on.
I think it was like my third guest.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, back in the day, back in the startup.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It's been awesome to follow, man, I mean it's really
cool to hear people's journeys and and really just you know,
seeing successful people and people who've gone you know, road
the roller coaster that is life and found out what
their happy place is and what their mental you know,
healthy spot is and you know, when you're really chasing
that mental wealth, what does that look like? And how
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do you find that root teens, it's cool to hear
that we're all really sharing the same experiences and things,
although sometimes we may not open up about it. It's
really been really neat to hear the journey that different
guys have gone on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think so many more have opened up about it
than from the time you did to not look. I
did a feature of the Super Bowl with AJ Brown, Right,
well we just hey, we're mental health buddies. Now that's
how we connected. We would never connected and stuff like that.
I think it's actually we're talking about leading to mental wealth.
The more you open up by your mental health, these
relationships a they form be friends, hurt for friends to brothers,
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right or friends to sisters, you become family. I think
it makes you a lot deeper.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, there's no doubt because I think when you really
talk about what is mental wealth, it's no different than
when we say, hey, the difference and you know some
of us that came from nothing, and all of a sudden,
you get a couple of bucks, you think you can
spend somewhere and you think you're rich, and then you
meet somebody who's actually wealthy. I think the difference is
when you really talk about mental wealth. I think it's
a combination of all those moments you've been through, chasing
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mental health and chasing hey, how do I get healthy?
And then how do I put all those things together
to find what is the best version of me? When
I'm in that space, when I'm in that spot where
I know this is where I'm meant to be. These
are the people that I'm meant to be around. What's
that circle that I'm involved in that really makes me
feel of We call it all the time, Jay our
locker room.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But what is mental wealth?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's a combination of that entire journey and all those
things coming together. And that's what really makes you wealthy,
is that you know what, Yeah, you're gonna have mental
health days. You're gonna have days, or you're down. You're
gonna have days, or you're frustrated with yourself, but that
ability to build mental wealth will get you through those moments,
either through yourself in ways you know how to reflect,
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or through your circle and the people who are in
your circle, they're gonna stand there right with you and
help you get back to that wealthy spot.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Look, mental health wise, dang adversity is a gift. Like
there's no podcast or books out there from the times
are good. We don't need that shit, Yep, we just
need them have to how to navigate through when those
waters are rough. And that's where I think there's you
know things like this now that are more readily available,
which wouldn't have been a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, here's what we're gonna do. We'll dive right in here,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And again, first time I met Andrew, I said, man,
for all you athletes out there, say hey, you gotta
make football fight.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Okay, that game starts, that cage.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Door locks, and you better make that dude across from
you beg to get out of that cage from you.
And it's it's so funny. I would tell Witt and
all these other players, and it's a complete opposite. I
tell everybody in life now, if you were hurt or tired,
you will never ever, ever fucking know in that cage
inside those lines. You don't fucking show it. Right, no
hands in our hips, neutral face, we don't show it.
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We don't show it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Conversely, I now talk to group saying, all right, that
mentality is needed for the field, It is needed.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
For a cage, for a ring.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But that same mentality gets people like me to fucking
crawl up in the corner of my room crime in
the middle of the nither. I want to throw myself
off a bridge. So throw that out for the rest
of life. That's the mental health part. We need you
to be able to compartmentalize and say, Okay, I could
be two different people. I could be this savage inside
you know lines and on that field and in that cage,
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and I could be the guy who shows himself compassion
and could show that pain and be vulnerable often. But
let's get back to warrior glaze warrior Andrew. And I
bring this up because we've taught players over and over
and over and over if you're hurt or tired, you
don't show it. You don't show it. If you watched
Andrew Whitworth, and I bring this up to every athlete
we have. Andrew did not go in the huddle like
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everybody else, right, but your head. Instead of putting your
head fully in the audel, you ducked your ear in.
And we always say is let's see who the fuck
is breathing heavy, Let's see's hurt it, Let's see whose
body language is given up.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Take it from there, Andrew, Yeah, I just you know,
it became a switch to where I wanted to stare
down much like and you know, and fighting in a
lot of aspects of martial arts, you know, you never turn.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Your back to your opponent.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So I became someone who I never forget Sean McVay
taking the job in seventeen. He's like, why the hell
do you not turn your body into the huddle and
put your back to the defense, And I was like,
I mean, I can listen, but I want to watch.
I want to stare at them, obviously for reasons that
I want to see football wise, of like communication they're
doing and things that may give me tells, but mainly
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I want to be the psychopath that like they're like, man,
why is this dude staring at me this entire twenty
thirty seconds where we're waiting for them to come a
line of scrimmage where I just kept eye contact at
all times with the d line and the linebackers and
those guys, because I felt like it was a mental
message we're both exhausted, we're both tired, but I will
not break eye contact with you, and we're going to
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be engaged in this battle the entire day, no matter what.
And so it always became something I'll never forget one
of my favorite moments over my career. Obviously, I shared
the Derek Bond story from the Lion game and that
at my Walter Paytonman in the Year speech of just
not realizing that that that connection from way back in
my rookie year. But my favorite one is we're in
Washington playing the Commanders and Chase Young is looking at
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me stare at him, and literally my test sweat walks
over there and they're like kind of having a conversation
and I can hear Chase Young go yeah right, and
so he finally just screams across the huddle. He goes, bro,
are you really thirty nine years old? And I'm like yeah,
And at that time, I think Chase is twenty two,
twenty three years old, and it just blew him away
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that this old thirty year old man is just staring
him down, and it was like it was the greatest
moment where he's like, Wow, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This dude's a gangster. Basically, Uh, it was neat.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Man. Look we the story I was trying to tell
when I meet with or any of these players can
train is our My partner to all this.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
They started with was Randy Couturu's six.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Time world heavyweight and light heavyweight champ of the UFC
and did it when he was forty seven years old.
But man, Randy has this fight against a guy named
Mike Van Rsdel for the Number one contender job and No.
One spot, and nobody knows Randy has a staff infection
going to that fight.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Dude literally has a pick line in cannot train.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But the way our players and our fighters go at
it is, we don't even really give a fuck if
we win or lose. We just want that round, that fight,
that minute to be the worst round fight minute of
your life. And we get off on that. And if
you could take that ego out of oh fuck, I
gotta I gotta fight not to lose, or I gotta
better make sure I win, it makes you a lot
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more dangerous. We just want to be this torrential downpour
of violence and whatever happens happens. Let's roll the dice.
So Randy goes out and does what we do and
just you know, play it by his own set of rules.
You know, there's there's sometimes you can have in there.
Some call a grappler's agreement, like you do this, okay,
they respond that way. They respond that Randy's doesn't do
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that way, Like if you grab Randy's leg, you're gonna
get an elbow in the head. If you try and
come off top. You're gonna get a take down over
here with an helbow to the head of this. It
just it just doesn't nothing can gru it and and
rightfully sight.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So like fuck you, I played by my wolves.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
But Randy wears this dude out so bad, but randon
his staff infection. So he comes over to the stool
and it's the only time my boy was really gonna
sit down in his stool.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
He's about to die.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And he turns and he sees Mike van Arsdale PLoP
down on his stool, and Randy just had this whole
another fuck, I'm not gonna show it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm not gonna show it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm not gonna show it his birth of life, raising
his arms to the crowd and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And really he just broke them.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And he broke them because he never showed that he
was about to fucking die and he just kept out
of that. Van hars Van Orsdale was a stud, a
total stud. And yeah, he broke them and that same
and by the way, the fight was over by.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
The seconds later.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, and if you don't show it, like I like,
what's said, the same thing as somebody going to their
school not taking a seat and then looking at Andrew
Wilworth like, why the fuck is this guy sitting down?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Why is he not taking a stool? Why is he
not tired like me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I think with I tell players, is now everyone
signs up to play a game, the rare sign up
to play.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I think that's the part of this game that has changed.
And I wouldn't say that it's changed in totality. I
think it's changed with certain guys. And I think that
now the guys who are really about that life and
really want to play that style of football stick out
like they're so much greater than a lot of other
guys in this game right now, in the game of football,
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because that is kind of a lost start and it
is something that isn't the you know, the mentality of
a lot of guys. And so the guys who are
about that life now stick out a lot more because
there was a time when when you got when I
got in the league, that that was this part of
life you want to be alignment in the NFL like
it was a fight I'll never forget, you know, my
second year in the league, having to go in the
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game against Jared Allen as the left tackle was our
left tackle went down and like I was playing left
guard that season and moved over during the game. And
I always tell people like, yeah, I don't know if
it was good batter and different, you can get a
sacking of that. But what I do know is for
the forty something snaps we faced each other, it felt
like I was just in a bar in a fight,
Like that's that's all we did, is just swinging at
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each other, trying to get each other in the ground,
and you know, and I played him a couple of
times after that once it became the left tackle from
then on, and that's always what it was, and that's
how we played football back then. And so it just
was a bar fight. There was no talking, there was
no chatter. When I played Terrell Suggs or James Harrison,
we never once spoke to each other because it was
just a fight. And then later in my career it's
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like I'd have full on conversations with guys at timeouts
because they'd want a chit chat, you know, And it
just the mentality of that changed a lot. And so
it is it is way different, and I think it
sticks out in this game. The guys that really built
with that kind of lifestyle and really, man, they like
to make it nasty, they like to get after it.
I think it really sticks out in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You think we could teach guys to turn into a fight.
That's if you turn into a fight, it's right to
tell guy you maging a fight. Ninetyer some of the
guys from you're going to hit their helmet and tap out.
You want nothing to do with it. But you also
have to put all this fucking work in when no
one's watching. That's the sacrifice that it doesn't just come naturally.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
You know, You've got to put this work in. She
become this fucking animal.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I think that's the biggest part to me, Jay, is
that what I see And there's some guys now that
I'm you know, try to help and I'll reach out
to with the gym and say, hey, man, listen, this
isn't something that's some big business venture for me. This
is like my life, like, uh, this is what I
love to do, and it's who like when I wake
up every day and I think, you know what I'm
I'm the protector of my four children and my wife.
I've always said this, I was famous when I was
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in Cincinnati. I said, I have two contracts in my life.
I've signed two deals. One is to protect Andy Dalton.
One is to be you know, married to Melissa Whitworth.
And I treat both of those with the same kind
of respect in the sense that I'm the pct protector
of those people.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And I take a lot of pride in that. And
what does that mean.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
It doesn't mean just jumping in a moment like oh,
somebody pushed Andy Dalton and now you got to stand
up for him, or oh, somebody's disrespectful of my wife
and now all of a sudden, in the moment, I'm
gonna do something. It means that every single day, twenty
four hours a day, my mentality is is I'm in
the kind of shape am I in preparing myself for
when that moment comes. So like even right now, like hey,
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you're retired, you played for sixteen years, played seventeen thousand
snaps in the NFL. Man At six am, I'm pounding
weights in the gym. At seven am, I'm taking my
kids to school. At eight am, I'm on a cardio
machine doing cardio. At nine am ten am, I'm boxing
on the heavy bag. Then I'm gonna sit around in
the gym, hang out for the guys to come in,
and then later when my kids come in, I might
get in a sauna.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I might hop on a rogue bike.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Like whatever it is, it ain't about burning calories getting
to work out it and it's about, man, how can
I just continue?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What's that one percent? What does it look like?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Am I gonna sit on my ass in a chair
and watch TV? Or am I gonna just? Man?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
What if somebody took me to a little deeper water
than I think I could go?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Can I handle it? Like?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I don't know when that scenario is coming? Maybe I
think Gladiators coming back at some point, or you know,
three thousand. I don't know what's gonna happen. I may
we're probably not going back to those days, but my
ass is.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Gonna be ready if we do.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
And that's kind of the mentality I live with, is
that those moments don't just happen. I'm prepared for those
moments because that's how I live my life. And so
I think when I look across the league today, there's
too many guys that are enjoying what it means to
look like an NFL football player. But I don't know
if they know what it means to Chase to be
a good NFL football player, to be a great one.
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They just enjoy the lifestyle and they enjoy being able to.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Say they do it. You know, Hey, man, you want
to come work out?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, come on, I'll be gone for like two three weeks,
but I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It's like, no, man, Like, this has gotta be your life.
If this is what you want to do and you
want to be great at it, and you won't do
it for a really long time, It's got to become
what you do day in and day out. It's not
about the one time you show up.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's funny, But first of all, I think some of
the issue is, again, being famous is not the same
as being great, and it gets confused nowadays. So I've
been covering the league for thirty This is my thirty
fourth year coming up, and man, I used to go
to the Pro Bowl. It was my favorite trip every year.
It used to be after the Super Bowl. But the
only way you really got endorsements back then is to
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go to the Pro Bowl. Nobody missed the Pro Bowl.
Oh my god, not only that being the insider. All
these guys would call me like the day or two before.
It was the Jared Allens and the Tony Gonzalezes and
the Michael Strahans and the Brian Irlackers.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Did I make it? Did I make it? To the
John Lynches, did I make it?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Guys are so like did I make it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And I used to ask the league to give me
the list of my guys early so I can let
him know, so you'd have to worry about it for
the extra twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
But they cared that much. It was about being great.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's about being recognized as being great, because that's the
only way you're gonna get recognized. Where now dick dock Instagram, Facebook,
Twitter or all that stuff. X better fuck you call
it right, you're famous. And it's like, you know, going
into a fight with a full with a full belly.
You know it doesn't work going it It's the same
as going in starving. You've got to now play buying
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games with yourself to be starving, starving. As and Andrew
Whitworth putting these hours in starting at six o'clock in
the morning, gang when no one's watching the Secret of
greatness is putting in work where.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
No one's watching.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking twelve years, and
some bitch took off fucking one week and started powerlifting
right away. The only time you know about it when
he fucking posts about it, but he is. It doesn't stop.
It's a sickness the Aaron Donald's of the world. It's
a sickness. And you know what's better than being great
fucking nothing?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, it is, Jay.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And you know what's what's interesting, man, is it's it's
It's one of those things that you know, And I
say this to my kids all the time when they
ask these questions because they're obviously hitting that age as
being in teenagers and they're curious and they don't know
why this guy's good or this guy's good. And I
always say, like, you know, it's really one of those
things that we get sometimes that the majority of our
day are decided by habits we've either intentionally created or
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you know what, passively allowed. And when I was at LSU,
something that really taught me. I wasn't a hard worker
in school. I was a big kid who was really athletic.
I played basketball in high school and I got to
LSU under Nick Saban and I still to this day
say it's the greatest coach I've ever been around. You know,
I've used a lot of his influences to help when
I've mentor Sean or been around Sean in my career,
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because I see a lot of those two guys that
similarities and a lot of who they are. And Nick
used to always say to the coaches every like he
wasn't just hard on players like people say all this
stuff about me and hardened players. No, he's His sense
of urgency every day was on every single person that
came across his path, and it was coaches, players and everything.
And if you were in a practice and I messed
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up who I was had to block, or I was
tired throwing up and I had to be taken out
of the drill, you know, he wouldn't say.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Come after me.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He would go to my line coach and he would
rip that o line coach right in front of the
whole entire team. And his philosophy was always you either
coach it or you allow it. And I have used
that principle to me to one of the things I
love to do. And I always say This is like
you got to be able to take things you learn
and go, you know what, how can I apply that
in a bunch of different ways? And I think when
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you find things like that, your ability to really apply
it a bunch of differ ways in your life is
really significant.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And so to me, I apply it this way. Every day.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I either am choosing and coaching myself to be a
certain human being or I am allowing myself to be
this way today. And so I gotta make a choice
every day, like, hey, you know what, I can allow
myself to say today kind of feels like a lay
in the bed day. Today kind of feels like a
drop the kids off and go have a couple drinks.
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And I'm gonna end up tomorrow, even though that might
be a fun day, I'm gonna end up tomorrow being
mad at myself. Right, I'm gonna end up being mad
at my lazer, That's right. And so I gotta choose
every day do I coach do allow it? And so
I've always applied that to myself because that's really what
we're trying to do. And for people that want to
do that, man, it's not as crazy like you just
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heard me list my day. It's not as crazy as
you think. It's about choosing that, Hey, tomorrow, I'm gonna
start a better habit. Like I'm gonna start whatever it is.
Maybe I'm gonna cold plunge, maybe I'm getting asna. Maybe
I'm gonna go walk. Maybe I'm gonna just take a
few steps more than I normally do a day, whatever
that is. Just create that habit. You'll start to get
that positive feeling, those those vibes from it that you'd
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be like, oh, man, I feel little better about myself
today just because of that, And then that'll become contagious,
and then you'll get addicted to that feeling, and then
all of a sudden you'll start to add little things
along the way. Think of it as creating new habits
and not some big, huge, Oh wow, how would I
ever get to this stage that they're talking about, because
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it seems like, man, I could never do it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You can.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
You just got to start to create one little good
habit and let it lead to another.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Look the work effort we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
There's also there's different ways to fight, but this work ethic,
it's pressure pressure pressure. The way our fighters fight, the
way Whitworth plays, it's pressure. Every time he puts his
hands on you. You gonna make it hurt, right, every
time you make it hurt.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, and the other thing and like and there's got
to be little things in your life that show that,
you know, Like one of the things I was famous
for when I played, like, you know, our special teams.
Coach would always show the guys this when we'd have
our kind of situational master meetings. He'd be like, hey,
he'd be showing a clip to teach the guys. He'd
be like, hey, I want you to notice something real quick,
because I don't know if you guys see this every
single week. But regardless of the score, regardless of the situation,
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regardless of what just happened on the drive before, every
single time we take the field, Whitworth sprints to the
hashes and he beats every player on the field of
the huddle. Like every time we could be down forty points,
we could be up forty points. He's sprinting no matter what.
And I always would say when guys will be like,
why do you do that? I'll never forget Cooper Cup
and Tyler Higb be like, ask me that when I
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was a ram and then there'd be little moments where
they try to beat me in a game, like a
all of a sudden, they'd like sprint with me, and
I would laugh because it's like in their mind and
be like, oh, we beat you. And they'd be like, no,
you just did exactly what.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I hope happens.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I got you to do it.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I hope that you do it too, because what
they didn't realize is is that was I was thirty eight,
thirty nine, forty years old than my career Jay, Like,
I get that these guys are looking up to me,
but what could I easily do? Hey, man, you've earned
the right. You're old, you've played this game forever. Everybody
looks up to you. Like, I'll be the last guy
in the huddle. I'm just gonna walk out there. I'm
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gonna take my place because I've earned it. I can
sit on the throne because I've earned the right to
do that. No, no, no, no, I don't ever want you
to see that side. That side means I'm taking what
I got and saying, you know what, I want to
enjoy it. No, I'm gonna be the first one to
beat your ass out there. So he can be like, Wow,
this dude's played more snaps than me, he's got more
injuries than me, he's got more reason to walk, and
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he sprints his ass out there every time. And to me,
that starts to get in guys heads like, man, am
I as committed as that dude is? And so from
my teammates it means something. And for those guys that
you're playing against, they're like, man, I don't know if
I want to go as far as this guy wants
to go, right, And so that was a message that
I always felt like I had the opportunity to send,
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regardless of whether we're up or down, or what the
feelings or emotions are. I don't choose emotions. I choose
what is my mentality every time I walk in the ring.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I really want people to hear that, because you we're
talking about for pro athletes, but you could use this
for anything.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yes, we're talking about this pressure, pressure pressure, right, like
we don't let up. We don't let up.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You throw one punch, I threw five, right, We're worth
funtime on the field.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So that pressure, pressure, bitch, pressure really breaks people.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But what it also does so a you know, the
secret success is you're all work in the world, right,
not by a little by law as Tom Brady what
a different Yeah, that's what it was, right, how you
tell everybody all the time, but I know who the
best is and do more than them.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But also it provides you a measure chaos. Most people
cannot handle chaos. Those of us crazies who do things
like this, and we talk about our anxiety. We're not
great in a lot of public settings. But because we
have this anxiety, this chaos that we create, we are
great in chaos.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Most people aren't.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Where there's this business or sport and you create this
chaos and you're comfortable in it, most people will tap
out business or sport.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yeah, And I think that's the thing is that you
just got to figure out. And that's why I meant
by taking some of these things and saying, all right,
how can I apply it to what I do? Like,
I'm still able to take a lot of those principles
and apply it to working on Thursday night football. I'm
able to apply it to doing a podcast. I'm able
to apply it to those things. Because what is pressure,
Like pressure is is I'm willing to go places I
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don't think other people will go. Like in my career
outside of training really one on ones with guy with
yourself and randing some of those guys, and then like
you know, later in my career at the very end,
I trained with Ryan Sorenson.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But I never worked out at facilities.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I never went in big groups and worked out because
I loved feeling like I don't know what every other
guy does, but I'm gonna go as farther or farther
than I think they'll go by myself, And like that
always helped me when I'd show back up with a
team and be like, wow, okay, I'm in better shape
than these guys, because it's like almost it was a
positive to not know well in life and business and
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everything else, Like it's not about oh man, all right,
I'll be the first one to work and then I'll
stay longer than anybody else.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying things.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
That are like not really positive, but hey, what are
things that I can do to get ahead? Like is
it reading up on information? Is it applying pressure? By
every single time I walk into business meeting with people,
I'm gonna know as much or more than any person
that's in that room. I'm gonna be over prepared for
situations like at all times, and so that is applying
(25:58):
pressure to people you're around. I'm gonna ask awesome questions.
I'm gonna be a fantastic listener. I'm gonna listen to
people and I'm gonna say, Hey, how do I do
I actually sit in a meeting and do I listen
to respond?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Or am I just waiting to talk? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
How do I apply pressure? A pressure isn't some negative thing,
it's a great thing. You could be making a room
so much better by applying pressure of being the best
question asker in that room, the best listener, the best
at having empathy and understanding the situation and what we're
trying to accomplish as a company. I can apply those
principles as being great at something by applying pressure to
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everyone around me at the way I'm gonna do something,
Hopefully other people will do it as well, and that's
only gonna make us better if we're all putting pressure
on each other to be great at whatever it is
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Look as an NFLU signer, my job's break news or
have inside information.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
On a Sunday, it wouldn't know it. I'm probably one
thousand calls a week.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yep, I don't stop.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It never stops. It never stops, It never stops.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And you know, I don't do the twitter breaking news
stuff anymore because it doesn't make sense to who could
tweet fast? But I'm foxing about Sunny. You always hear
something that you don't hear anywhere else, and that's I think. Now,
that's I think a true insider. But I put in
literally thousands of phone calls per week for you know,
five minutes of TV each week. And that's fine that
you have to do. That's the amount of work gifts.
(27:16):
But so when when it was playing or what was
training with us? And I kind of struggle with players
now with his wind, his work out with us was
we did like five minutes of hips for him.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
He did a fucking hour and a half lift that
he did, an hour of midst martial arts, he did
an hour of fucking recovery.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
It was every day.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And now I got guys going, hey, can I come
up once or twice a week? And I'm going, I
don't think I can make you a fighter, And once
or twice a week it doesn't really work like that.
It's fucking fight, can't man, just changing your life, you know,
and and it's it's hard to get up guys to understand.
And it kind of always I've marveled at it because
like went Max Crosby last year and he said, I
always ask people to come in when I started six am,
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but like I'm in, he says, no one ever comes.
You know, Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking twelve years,
He's like, nobody wants to do this shit, And I
don't understand why you wouldn't in such a short period
put that extra work in to do what you've done, saying, shit,
it's gonna suck during the time, but it's gonna suck
way more if they closed that glass and my team
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photo for the rest of my life, my grandkids see
someone average.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
That's what I can remember, even after, you know, we
lose the Super Bowl in eighteen and I'm like, man,
I still want to keep playing, but like am I stupid?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And like is it ridiculous?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
At thirty eight, I want to play NFL football steel
Like you know, I want to commit to it and
I want to stay in. I think this is the
right decision, and I remember I ran into Wayne Gretzky
at Sherwood where I live here. He's a member here,
going to play golf there all the time and has
recently moved, but he was here, he's playing golf, and
I saw him and he was like, dude, so much
(28:54):
respect for you, love watching you play, but let me
let me just leave you one thing before I go play.
And I said, yeah, what's that, Wayne, And he goes, man,
make them rip that jersey off your back. And I
was like, man, that's what I needed to hear, is
to hear an all time great who has accomplished everything
could possibly accomplish. And even him, he's like, man, I
wish I had one more chance to skate on that ice,
(29:15):
Like you make them rip that jersey off your back,
And so that really I never forget him telling me that.
And I've always told guys that is that, you know what, like,
make them rip that jersey off your back, Like this
is one of the greatest things you'll ever get to do.
Being a part of something way bigger than yourself is
one of the best feelings.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's like, it's wide to me and you and I
have had this conversation recently, like even playing football, like
being in that locker room going through a season Thursday
night football, same thing, traveling with our crew, like being
invested in these games, like loving it, you know, doing
all those things, and all of a sudden, when you
get these breaks, it's like, man, I tail spend because
it's like, man, I, Oh, where'd all that go that
(29:54):
I was pouring into? And then you go all right, shoot,
like what is my rhythm?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
What's my vibe?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Those things are your struggle. But the truth is that
you just you're realizing, actually it's a great thing because
it's like, I'm realizing how special that is. Man, I'm
actually you know, you're in the moment you're thinking, man,
I can't wait for the off season.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But really, man, you freaking love it.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
And that's why you feel that way is because you
absolutely love the crew you're with, You love what you
do that you're so invested in it and you're chasing
those thousand calls every week that really what you're feeling is, shoot, man,
I miss that other love of my life that really
I don't realize how much passion and energy I put
into and it's helped me to really like understand that
(30:37):
and go all right, that just means I need to
go pour my passion and energy to this other thing.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And so I think for me it's like that.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
It's like, man, I just wish guys would understand, like
the more you actually put into it, the more you'll
actually fall.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In love with it.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It's like any other relationship, your significant other, your kids,
everything else. Like the more you pour into it, the
more you'll get out of it. And I think some
guys just missed that because they're jaded by probably away.
A lot of things have changed in high school with money,
with nil and college to where it's all transactional, and man,
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transformational life is way better than transactional life.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Man, Like, I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Want to say when I'm done football, media everything like
I was successful. I want to say I was significant.
I want to live a life of significance. I want
people to go, Man, I'm so glad Andrew Whitworth was
in my life. I'm so glad that I got a
chance to be that dude's teammate. I'm so glad that
I had a chance to be his friend. That is significance.
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That's not success. And so I think success will happen
if you live a life of significance in the way
that it's meant to for you and so for me. Man,
that's what I see in guys. I just hope guys
understand that that is bigger than the check. It's bigger
than the notoriety to have that opportunity one day to
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feel like you lived a life of significance, You made
a difference.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Fucking love people. Look and again, there is a there
is a method to this madness too.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
If you guys want to any pro athletes want to
come train with Wit and eye out there, it's up
here in a place called the village. You can d
M him, DM me. But it's fucking all in. We
have guys work in Storre and sent who's gonna train
you every day. We're gonna do mma with you three
four days, five days a week. But it's gonna work
with you. But it's a fucking commitment. You're all in,
not Hey, can I let me get a couple of
workouts in with Ryan or let me I want to
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learn a hand fight and once it's it doesn't work
like that. We don't spar one day going into a fight.
It doesn't work like that. And I want people to
understand the level of commitment that it really takes to
be great, and don't leave those fucking regrets on the floor.
It's up to you, nobody else. It's up to you.
You're not gonna get lucky and have a great career.
Doesn't work like that. It does not work like that.
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And you may have a lucky cats, you may have
a lucky pass, but you're not gonna bit lucky and
have a great career. And if you have a really
good career but you're skin and by, you're gonna fucking
regret that too, because one day you could have put
a gold jacket up. The gold jacket guys were friends
with John Lynches and Tom Brady's. They weren't then coming
out right they put that working Andrew Whitworth, Okay, you
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could turn into that Lane Johnson. You could turn into
that guy. It's never too late to do that. So really, man,
understand whatever it is you're doing, whatever you're passionate about
in life, turn it into a fucking fight and outwork
that person every hour of every second of every hour
of every day of the week.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Make it your passion. As Andrew said, fall in love
with it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's your other relationship before I let you go, tell
me now that you started coaching guys, tell people out
there kind of some of the stuff that you like
to key in for them. Again, for our stuff, we
work on your hips, work on your hands, work in
your hand violence, and work on your your mentality. A
lot of that between the years, stuff that that fighteror mindset.
Tellbody out there, the stuff that you've been able to
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improve over the years that you can outpass these guys.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, I think for me, it's it's really creating a
space where you know when I when I came up
with the concept of building the village, Uh, you know,
it's about creating something that I felt like. Man, all right,
how can combined all the things that I felt like
went into who I became and and what I was
able to accomplish in my career. Uh And and see
also people have impact with how are all the different
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ways that I trained and the things I dabbled in
Because a lot of people who don't know my history,
like I from my entire career, I never really stayed
that consistent with the exact plan of how I was
going to train. I loved to dabble and find. I
was I always said I was on this search and
I was gonna find what is the best optimal way
to train my body and get prepared. I mean I've
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done everything from crosspit crosspit to heavy power lifting to
you know. I I one year I went into like swimming.
I thought like, all right, I'm gonna take pressure off
my body, like I'm gonna learn how to swim like
an Olympic swimmer.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Like.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
So I hired a swim coach and I try at
a swimming pool gym in Louisiana Tech. And you know,
I've done everything from MMA, all the hit training. I've
been to facilities and trained. I've done everything you can
really think of from that aspect. I mean I used
to hike mountains and backpack and rock and everything else.
So I said, hey, how can I combine a lot
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of the knowledge and things that I've gotten from all
those things and say, all right, anybody that walks in
this door, I can help them. I don't care if
they're a skill player, a lineman, doesn't matter, a quarterback.
I can help them on their journey because I've tried
a little bit of it all. And then obviously Ryan
Sorenson's a really special trainer. He's one of the best
I've ever been around in a one on one setting,
and so I was like, man, this is a no brainer.
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I'm gonna help Ryan with his knowledge of what he
already knows. We're gonna put together a lot of thoughts
we have and people who want to come out here
and live in a world of whether it's one on
one or a smaller group type training setting, and really
get that holistic approach, like you know, the infrared SNAs,
the workouts, the walks, the training, all the things it
takes that I think is from the head, the brain
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to the heart to what you do the specifics of
how exactly your body moves and the best optimal way
to take care of yourself. I think some places may
stress your conditioning, some places may stress your strength.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
To me strength, mobility, conditioning.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
None of them gain if we don't all gain, And
so we're chasing how do we find this balance? Because
I think that's in life, whether we're talking about in
a weight room or not, We're all looking for a balance,
Like what's that blend that's our blend for being happy
and finding our spot. I'm trying to help people's bodies
find that blend. What is that perfect cocktail mixture.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
That puts you that's the thing you give.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Also, yeah, if you're go to us man and learn
the answers to the test, what I mean is we'll
learn how to watch film from him.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
We'll learn from technique. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Again, I'm I know more than ninety nine p nine
nine percent about football, but I'll never know more than
him or my friends.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
How he longs there Michael Strahan's I was sitting with
these guys.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
They're watching film and they're looking at the littlest fucking
things and they're like, oh, this guy's foot when it's
you know, third and two and his foot is out.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
And beats a draw. I'm like, how fuck do you
see that?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
They can teach you that, And actually I learned it early,
and I started having you guys try and teach the
fighters that because fighters were watching film.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Besides, Coatore is the first guy to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So it was kind of mixed like, Hey, we're gonna
teach you the fighter mind, you'll teach us this sport.
I Q, so go learn from this man how to
watch film. You will get the answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, you know, I think it colds.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I give you all the answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Just last year, man, we you know, we had Paris
Johnson come in the left tackle for the Arizona Cardinals
and who just had a great year, and you know,
he comes to us with me and Ryan and it's like, hey, man,
you know there's some pattern things in your body, how
you're moving, and little things that like we got to fix.
And so it started with changing his body and then
that led to how he's moving and how he get
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those hips rolling and all all those type things. Because
you're doing some things that are going to lead to
problems for you and we can see it, but let's
fix it. And now he has, you know, a year
where he's healthy and he plays well, and then it
turn that turns into hey, let's go do some drills
and let's talk about stuff, and those kind of things
start coming out. I never forgetting and be like, WHOA,
I have worked with people and I took him to dinner.
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He's like, I've worked with people, I've trained with everybody.
I've chased all these things, and in two days with you,
I've learned more than I think I've learned my entire time.
I've been chased all this for all these years. He's
like just these little things that I just didn't even know,
and that was just so a rewarding, cool opportunity. And
that's the kind of stuff I'm into. Man, it ain't
about my benefit in it. It's about, man, how can
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I help somebody else reach this goal they have Because
the game of football has changed my life significantly. It
has made this awesome impact on my kids, my wife,
all of us have a better experience in life because
of what it's done for me. I just want to
see other people have that same opportunity, and that would
be a freaking cool reward, Like I said, a life
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of significance, to be able to make an impact on
somebody where they feel like, man, you know you helped
me get to where I want to go than like
meet for me, that's the greatest impact I can have.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm right there with you, and I think it's probably well,
we're brothers. I've been doing this is two thousand and seven.
Jared Allen's the first guy trained at MMA and went
from there to Patrick Willis and Brian Cushing and then.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Well I can thank you because my kids love that.
I have literally just bone scars of tissue you on
both forearms about years from years of people shopping is off.
So uh yeah, I have some nice, good little bumps
and my forearm bones. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Jay, Oh hey, things like that. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
And we're at the Pro Bowl one year and Joe
Stelley goes, hey, dude, fuck you.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm like, what what?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He goes fucking claim Matthews, damn there broke my arm
in a fucking game, the NFC Championship game. I'm like, oh,
I've never been more proud of it guy in my life.
I'm so happy because you use that hammerfist.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
We talked. But my point here is I've never gotten
paid for all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
We take money, but I've given it to my fighters,
I've given it to my coach, I've given him my trainers.
I just love to change people's lives, their kids' lives,
their grand kids' lives. That's what it's been about for me,
and that's what it's like for a guy like make
sure whoever you're gonna get coaching you. That's what it's about.
It's about making you break. It's the selflessness when you're.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
A coach man.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
There is nothing like seeing your teammates succeed, and I
do that and everything in life. Man, it's like loyalty
is a dying art and I am for Anyone is
kind of wondering, like, why why is he talking about
the village.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I actually sold them Breakable to my coaches, which is
really cool. I got to pass it on to them.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
With the fires and everything that happened here in Malibu,
I couldn't drive it to West Hollywood anymore. Man, it
takes two and a half hours now, so I said
it's time to just pass it on, which is great.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I'm happy out here in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And luckily brother Win opened a place about ten minutes
from my house. I'm like, great, we'll just start doing
it over there. So it's the village again. Reach out
to him, reach out to me. What's the village on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, it's the village atg on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Before I let you go, one last ning, I then
we started this normally. I asked so many to give
me their breakable moment, and you already did it because
you're on the show.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
But I had one today, hung this weekend, and we
said we.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Started with mental health, I'll finished with mental health, and
this one you're supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
And this weekend broke me, you know. But no, it
didn't break me.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
It fucking beat me down a lot, and to the
point where I was saying, it's some really really really
really dark stuff and normally don't come out of my
mouth about not being wanted to be alive and things
like that.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
And you know, I would.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Never I promised you, and I promise everybody else I
would never take that route because it's selfish. I'm not
going to do it. He just kind of I just
got one of those really bad ditches where man, you're
just hoping you just don't wake up. And it used
to happen a lot more until I started talking about
mental health and happens less now.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
So when it happens now, maybe it's a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Stagtering to me because I have these rituals that Wit
and I are talking about, finding these rituals, finding your
finding those things, and when I kind of get out
of them and for whatever reason, and I don't. I
just signed up for this ship in the first place,
so I know, what's gonna happen. But I made a
promise to Wit and Michael Phelps when I get like this,
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I'll reach out.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'll hold myself accountable.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I did and it's great because I have brothers
that I was able to reach out to and even
doing this this pocket. You know, here's the thing to
a guy with mental health. I'll never take a fucking
day off from it because I'm not gonna let it win.
I don't do that ship. I'll fight you, I'll make
it hard. I ain't gonna do that shit. So that's
the truth of it. But I want to finish on
that because I want people to know, you know, what
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these brotherhoods do, and that you make a promise to someone,
you got to keep that promise.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I appreciate you, man, and it's still.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Going through, but you uh, probably at least fifty percent
better from just coming on doing this ship and talking
to you earlier and being able to unpack it.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Yeah, I appreciate you, brother, you know, I love you,
and uh, you know that's like I said, that's that's
the difference to me when we talk about just chasing
many mental health and then finding being mental wealth mentally wealthy.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
And and you know what, Jay, like, you're.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Gonna have these moments because that's how we're wired. We
didn't sign up for it anyways. And you know, you
and I have shared over the years times like that
when they happen, and and for me a lot of
the times. You know, there's certain things that triggered over
times and sometimes we know it's coming, sometimes we don't.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
But becoming mentally wealthy is being able to have these
moments that we've created, uh, like this where we got
a brother to share it with and we've got somebody
that we can be accountable to. And that's that's being
mentally wealthy is that you now have a much bigger team.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You've done an awesome job of creating those things. So
when I talk about life of signific against man, the
impact that you've made on multiple people and a massive
amount of people through your book, through this podcast, through.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Everything else, you are mentally wealthy. Brother.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
So man, you are needed, You are significant, And that's
what you got to know about yourself. You know, I
love you, But we all have them, man, And you
know it's one of the reasons I stay so active
and work out so much is because you know, I'll
go back to you know those things, those those crazy
roommates will start telling me things that happened twenty years
ago or fifteen years ago, ten years ago and beat
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me up about it, you know, and then I'm like wait,
you know, like no, no, no, no, like go do something,
get that out of your system, let it go. And
we all got to find what it is that makes
us mentally wealthy. And friends like you man definitely helped
me do that. And I hope you realize how significant
and you know how many, how big your mental wealth is, Man,
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that you've created with this podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You've got a lot of people that look up to
you every single day for the example you lay for.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
That's why it's my obligation to talk about it. When
it's like this, By the way, you can hear it
to you my voice. It's just, man, it's kicked my
ass this weekend and it happened. We were at Nobu Malibu,
middle of it afternoon and happened the greatest day and then.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Fucking sky just fell on me.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Been laid kind of lifeless ever since, trying to fight
it through and trying to get myself going. Yesterday but again,
you it's my obligation a to stay alive, because that's
that's it. Like there's I'm not not that that's it.
And I got to use my pain to help others
through theirs. Yeah, so next time you hear me, I'm
sure I'll be a lot peppier and lively or I
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fucking pulled it off today regardless. But this is also
like twenty one listening out there, like these are the
conversations you need to have. You heard Andrew's reaction to me.
He didn't fucking call me a plus, he didn't fucking
tell me suck it up. He didn't do any of
that shit right, And that's why you gotta lean into
your teammates.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
So, brother, I love you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I'd only do that if you put your hands on
your hips. Okay, that didn't happen to him, Wed.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I appreciate you, man, I love you, Boddy, I love you, brother.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Appreciate it for this weekend, for life, Yes, sir,
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast,
build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm
Jay Glazer, and the guests I happened right now. Last
time I had him on is Andrew Whitworth, who's probably
the best looking guest I have ever had on this
show by far. Now, if you put the hat on me,
we lose the effect.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
No, no, no, I'm hiding.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But when he was on in the.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Past, it was a mental health podcast, and then what
I found was guys like myself, guys like Lane Johnson,
Michael Phelps. We're trying to show people that mental health
was not all gray, it's not all depression, anxiety, all this.
But I just kept still walking into these roadblocks where
people are like, Jay, I don't know if I want
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to come on and talk about darkness or talk about depression.
I'm like, that's not what mental health is about. So
I changed it to Mental Wealth. And the reason why
I did change in Mental Wealth is our whole point
of when you talk about mental health, it's not just like, hey,
this is where we are. We talk about mental health
so we can build ourselves up, so we can build
mental wealth.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
And you know, Andrew's guy.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
For all these athletes out there, those six inches between
your ears have mental health at least to mental wealth,
at least to generational wealth for your grandkids on that field.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And I want to you know, for every athlete out there,
every businessman. I want to really take people through.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We started training Win twelve years ago or something like that,
early days in mixed martial arts for him to help
himself turn football into a fight. But now Witch training
guys in a place called the village up.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
In Westlake Village, right, yep, uh yeah, Lake Village. So
he's taken.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now he's become the grasshopper, has become the what are
the things from kung thru?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
The grasshopper becomes to.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Me, I'm not a kung fu guy, but you spend
some wisdom on me.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Right, grasshopper becomes the teacher?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is? So we're gonna go kind of go over
together today. A lot of our training methodology all between
the years behind the ribcage of what really leads to greatness,
and that greatness again, it's not how famous you're being famous,
have the same as being.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Great, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, what you start with, how much work you
put in, and then the hours that you put into
work when no one's watching. So that's probably the longest
introduction I've ever had. First of all, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm good brother, I'm happy you have me on again. Man,
this is this is a great.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I love it. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You no obviously get the last time I had you on.
I think it was like my third guest.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, back in the day, back in the startup.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It's been awesome to follow, man, I mean it's really
cool to hear people's journeys and and really just you know,
seeing successful people and people who've gone you know, road
the roller coaster that is life and found out what
their happy place is and what their mental you know,
healthy spot is and you know, when you're really chasing
that mental wealth, what does that look like? And how
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do you find that root teens, it's cool to hear
that we're all really sharing the same experiences and things,
although sometimes we may not open up about it. It's
really been really neat to hear the journey that different
guys have gone on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think so many more have opened up about it
than from the time you did to not look. I
did a feature of the Super Bowl with AJ Brown, Right,
well we just hey, we're mental health buddies. Now that's
how we connected. We would never connected and stuff like that.
I think it's actually we're talking about leading to mental wealth.
The more you open up by your mental health, these
relationships a they form be friends, hurt for friends to brothers,
(03:35):
right or friends to sisters, you become family. I think
it makes you a lot deeper.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, there's no doubt because I think when you really
talk about what is mental wealth, it's no different than
when we say, hey, the difference and you know some
of us that came from nothing, and all of a sudden,
you get a couple of bucks, you think you can
spend somewhere and you think you're rich, and then you
meet somebody who's actually wealthy. I think the difference is
when you really talk about mental wealth. I think it's
a combination of all those moments you've been through, chasing
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mental health and chasing hey, how do I get healthy?
And then how do I put all those things together
to find what is the best version of me? When
I'm in that space, when I'm in that spot where
I know this is where I'm meant to be. These
are the people that I'm meant to be around. What's
that circle that I'm involved in that really makes me
feel of We call it all the time, Jay our
locker room.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But what is mental wealth?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's a combination of that entire journey and all those
things coming together. And that's what really makes you wealthy,
is that you know what, Yeah, you're gonna have mental
health days. You're gonna have days, or you're down. You're
gonna have days, or you're frustrated with yourself, but that
ability to build mental wealth will get you through those moments,
either through yourself in ways you know how to reflect,
(04:43):
or through your circle and the people who are in
your circle, they're gonna stand there right with you and
help you get back to that wealthy spot.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Look, mental health wise, dang adversity is a gift. Like
there's no podcast or books out there from the times
are good. We don't need that shit, Yep, we just
need them have to how to navigate through when those
waters are rough. And that's where I think there's you
know things like this now that are more readily available,
which wouldn't have been a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, here's what we're gonna do. We'll dive right in here,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And again, first time I met Andrew, I said, man,
for all you athletes out there, say hey, you gotta
make football fight.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Okay, that game starts, that cage.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Door locks, and you better make that dude across from
you beg to get out of that cage from you.
And it's it's so funny. I would tell Witt and
all these other players, and it's a complete opposite. I
tell everybody in life now, if you were hurt or tired,
you will never ever, ever fucking know in that cage
inside those lines. You don't fucking show it. Right, no
hands in our hips, neutral face, we don't show it.
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We don't show it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Conversely, I now talk to group saying, all right, that
mentality is needed for the field, It is needed.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
For a cage, for a ring.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But that same mentality gets people like me to fucking
crawl up in the corner of my room crime in
the middle of the nither. I want to throw myself
off a bridge. So throw that out for the rest
of life. That's the mental health part. We need you
to be able to compartmentalize and say, Okay, I could
be two different people. I could be this savage inside
you know lines and on that field and in that cage,
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and I could be the guy who shows himself compassion
and could show that pain and be vulnerable often. But
let's get back to warrior glaze warrior Andrew. And I
bring this up because we've taught players over and over
and over and over if you're hurt or tired, you
don't show it. You don't show it. If you watched
Andrew Whitworth, and I bring this up to every athlete
we have. Andrew did not go in the huddle like
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everybody else, right, but your head. Instead of putting your
head fully in the audel, you ducked your ear in.
And we always say is let's see who the fuck
is breathing heavy, Let's see's hurt it, Let's see whose
body language is given up.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Take it from there, Andrew, Yeah, I just you know,
it became a switch to where I wanted to stare
down much like and you know, and fighting in a
lot of aspects of martial arts, you know, you never turn.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Your back to your opponent.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So I became someone who I never forget Sean McVay
taking the job in seventeen. He's like, why the hell
do you not turn your body into the huddle and
put your back to the defense, And I was like,
I mean, I can listen, but I want to watch.
I want to stare at them, obviously for reasons that
I want to see football wise, of like communication they're
doing and things that may give me tells, but mainly
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I want to be the psychopath that like they're like, man,
why is this dude staring at me this entire twenty
thirty seconds where we're waiting for them to come a
line of scrimmage where I just kept eye contact at
all times with the d line and the linebackers and
those guys, because I felt like it was a mental
message we're both exhausted, we're both tired, but I will
not break eye contact with you, and we're going to
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be engaged in this battle the entire day, no matter what.
And so it always became something I'll never forget one
of my favorite moments over my career. Obviously, I shared
the Derek Bond story from the Lion game and that
at my Walter Paytonman in the Year speech of just
not realizing that that that connection from way back in
my rookie year. But my favorite one is we're in
Washington playing the Commanders and Chase Young is looking at
(08:13):
me stare at him, and literally my test sweat walks
over there and they're like kind of having a conversation
and I can hear Chase Young go yeah right, and
so he finally just screams across the huddle. He goes, bro,
are you really thirty nine years old? And I'm like yeah,
And at that time, I think Chase is twenty two,
twenty three years old, and it just blew him away
(08:33):
that this old thirty year old man is just staring
him down, and it was like it was the greatest
moment where he's like, Wow, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This dude's a gangster. Basically, Uh, it was neat.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Man. Look we the story I was trying to tell
when I meet with or any of these players can
train is our My partner to all this.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
They started with was Randy Couturu's six.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Time world heavyweight and light heavyweight champ of the UFC
and did it when he was forty seven years old.
But man, Randy has this fight against a guy named
Mike Van Rsdel for the Number one contender job and No.
One spot, and nobody knows Randy has a staff infection
going to that fight.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Dude literally has a pick line in cannot train.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But the way our players and our fighters go at
it is, we don't even really give a fuck if
we win or lose. We just want that round, that fight,
that minute to be the worst round fight minute of
your life. And we get off on that. And if
you could take that ego out of oh fuck, I
gotta I gotta fight not to lose, or I gotta
better make sure I win, it makes you a lot
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more dangerous. We just want to be this torrential downpour
of violence and whatever happens happens. Let's roll the dice.
So Randy goes out and does what we do and
just you know, play it by his own set of rules.
You know, there's there's sometimes you can have in there.
Some call a grappler's agreement, like you do this, okay,
they respond that way. They respond that Randy's doesn't do
(09:54):
that way, Like if you grab Randy's leg, you're gonna
get an elbow in the head. If you try and
come off top. You're gonna get a take down over
here with an helbow to the head of this. It
just it just doesn't nothing can gru it and and
rightfully sight.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So like fuck you, I played by my wolves.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
But Randy wears this dude out so bad, but randon
his staff infection. So he comes over to the stool
and it's the only time my boy was really gonna
sit down in his stool.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
He's about to die.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And he turns and he sees Mike van Arsdale PLoP
down on his stool, and Randy just had this whole
another fuck, I'm not gonna show it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm not gonna show it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm not gonna show it his birth of life, raising
his arms to the crowd and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And really he just broke them.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And he broke them because he never showed that he
was about to fucking die and he just kept out
of that. Van hars Van Orsdale was a stud, a
total stud. And yeah, he broke them and that same
and by the way, the fight was over by.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
The seconds later.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, and if you don't show it, like I like,
what's said, the same thing as somebody going to their
school not taking a seat and then looking at Andrew
Wilworth like, why the fuck is this guy sitting down?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Why is he not taking a stool? Why is he
not tired like me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I think with I tell players, is now everyone
signs up to play a game, the rare sign up
to play.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I think that's the part of this game that has changed.
And I wouldn't say that it's changed in totality. I
think it's changed with certain guys. And I think that
now the guys who are really about that life and
really want to play that style of football stick out
like they're so much greater than a lot of other
guys in this game right now, in the game of football,
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because that is kind of a lost start and it
is something that isn't the you know, the mentality of
a lot of guys. And so the guys who are
about that life now stick out a lot more because
there was a time when when you got when I
got in the league, that that was this part of
life you want to be alignment in the NFL like
it was a fight I'll never forget, you know, my
second year in the league, having to go in the
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game against Jared Allen as the left tackle was our
left tackle went down and like I was playing left
guard that season and moved over during the game. And
I always tell people like, yeah, I don't know if
it was good batter and different, you can get a
sacking of that. But what I do know is for
the forty something snaps we faced each other, it felt
like I was just in a bar in a fight,
Like that's that's all we did, is just swinging at
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each other, trying to get each other in the ground,
and you know, and I played him a couple of
times after that once it became the left tackle from
then on, and that's always what it was, and that's
how we played football back then. And so it just
was a bar fight. There was no talking, there was
no chatter. When I played Terrell Suggs or James Harrison,
we never once spoke to each other because it was
just a fight. And then later in my career it's
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like I'd have full on conversations with guys at timeouts
because they'd want a chit chat, you know, And it
just the mentality of that changed a lot. And so
it is it is way different, and I think it
sticks out in this game. The guys that really built
with that kind of lifestyle and really, man, they like
to make it nasty, they like to get after it.
I think it really sticks out in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You think we could teach guys to turn into a fight.
That's if you turn into a fight, it's right to
tell guy you maging a fight. Ninetyer some of the
guys from you're going to hit their helmet and tap out.
You want nothing to do with it. But you also
have to put all this fucking work in when no
one's watching. That's the sacrifice that it doesn't just come naturally.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
You know, You've got to put this work in. She
become this fucking animal.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I think that's the biggest part to me, Jay, is
that what I see And there's some guys now that
I'm you know, try to help and I'll reach out
to with the gym and say, hey, man, listen, this
isn't something that's some big business venture for me. This
is like my life, like, uh, this is what I
love to do, and it's who like when I wake
up every day and I think, you know what I'm
I'm the protector of my four children and my wife.
I've always said this, I was famous when I was
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in Cincinnati. I said, I have two contracts in my life.
I've signed two deals. One is to protect Andy Dalton.
One is to be you know, married to Melissa Whitworth.
And I treat both of those with the same kind
of respect in the sense that I'm the pct protector
of those people.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And I take a lot of pride in that. And
what does that mean.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
It doesn't mean just jumping in a moment like oh,
somebody pushed Andy Dalton and now you got to stand
up for him, or oh, somebody's disrespectful of my wife
and now all of a sudden, in the moment, I'm
gonna do something. It means that every single day, twenty
four hours a day, my mentality is is I'm in
the kind of shape am I in preparing myself for
when that moment comes. So like even right now, like hey,
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you're retired, you played for sixteen years, played seventeen thousand
snaps in the NFL. Man At six am, I'm pounding
weights in the gym. At seven am, I'm taking my
kids to school. At eight am, I'm on a cardio
machine doing cardio. At nine am ten am, I'm boxing
on the heavy bag. Then I'm gonna sit around in
the gym, hang out for the guys to come in,
and then later when my kids come in, I might
get in a sauna.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I might hop on a rogue bike.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Like whatever it is, it ain't about burning calories getting
to work out it and it's about, man, how can
I just continue?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What's that one percent? What does it look like?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Am I gonna sit on my ass in a chair
and watch TV? Or am I gonna just? Man?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
What if somebody took me to a little deeper water
than I think I could go?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Can I handle it? Like?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I don't know when that scenario is coming? Maybe I
think Gladiators coming back at some point, or you know,
three thousand. I don't know what's gonna happen. I may
we're probably not going back to those days, but my
ass is.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Gonna be ready if we do.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
And that's kind of the mentality I live with, is
that those moments don't just happen. I'm prepared for those
moments because that's how I live my life. And so
I think when I look across the league today, there's
too many guys that are enjoying what it means to
look like an NFL football player. But I don't know
if they know what it means to Chase to be
a good NFL football player, to be a great one.
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They just enjoy the lifestyle and they enjoy being able to.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Say they do it. You know, Hey, man, you want
to come work out?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, come on, I'll be gone for like two three weeks,
but I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It's like, no, man, Like, this has gotta be your life.
If this is what you want to do and you
want to be great at it, and you won't do
it for a really long time, It's got to become
what you do day in and day out. It's not
about the one time you show up.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's funny, But first of all, I think some of
the issue is, again, being famous is not the same
as being great, and it gets confused nowadays. So I've
been covering the league for thirty This is my thirty
fourth year coming up, and man, I used to go
to the Pro Bowl. It was my favorite trip every year.
It used to be after the Super Bowl. But the
only way you really got endorsements back then is to
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go to the Pro Bowl. Nobody missed the Pro Bowl.
Oh my god, not only that being the insider. All
these guys would call me like the day or two before.
It was the Jared Allens and the Tony Gonzalezes and
the Michael Strahans and the Brian Irlackers.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Did I make it? Did I make it? To the
John Lynches, did I make it?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Guys are so like did I make it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And I used to ask the league to give me
the list of my guys early so I can let
him know, so you'd have to worry about it for
the extra twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
But they cared that much. It was about being great.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's about being recognized as being great, because that's the
only way you're gonna get recognized. Where now dick dock Instagram, Facebook,
Twitter or all that stuff. X better fuck you call
it right, you're famous. And it's like, you know, going
into a fight with a full with a full belly.
You know it doesn't work going it It's the same
as going in starving. You've got to now play buying
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games with yourself to be starving, starving. As and Andrew
Whitworth putting these hours in starting at six o'clock in
the morning, gang when no one's watching the Secret of
greatness is putting in work where.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
No one's watching.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking twelve years, and
some bitch took off fucking one week and started powerlifting
right away. The only time you know about it when
he fucking posts about it, but he is. It doesn't stop.
It's a sickness the Aaron Donald's of the world. It's
a sickness. And you know what's better than being great
fucking nothing?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, it is, Jay.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And you know what's what's interesting, man, is it's it's
It's one of those things that you know, And I
say this to my kids all the time when they
ask these questions because they're obviously hitting that age as
being in teenagers and they're curious and they don't know
why this guy's good or this guy's good. And I
always say, like, you know, it's really one of those
things that we get sometimes that the majority of our
day are decided by habits we've either intentionally created or
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you know what, passively allowed. And when I was at LSU,
something that really taught me. I wasn't a hard worker
in school. I was a big kid who was really athletic.
I played basketball in high school and I got to
LSU under Nick Saban and I still to this day
say it's the greatest coach I've ever been around. You know,
I've used a lot of his influences to help when
I've mentor Sean or been around Sean in my career,
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because I see a lot of those two guys that
similarities and a lot of who they are. And Nick
used to always say to the coaches every like he
wasn't just hard on players like people say all this
stuff about me and hardened players. No, he's His sense
of urgency every day was on every single person that
came across his path, and it was coaches, players and everything.
And if you were in a practice and I messed
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up who I was had to block, or I was
tired throwing up and I had to be taken out
of the drill, you know, he wouldn't say.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Come after me.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He would go to my line coach and he would
rip that o line coach right in front of the
whole entire team. And his philosophy was always you either
coach it or you allow it. And I have used
that principle to me to one of the things I
love to do. And I always say This is like
you got to be able to take things you learn
and go, you know what, how can I apply that
in a bunch of different ways? And I think when
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you find things like that, your ability to really apply
it a bunch of differ ways in your life is
really significant.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And so to me, I apply it this way. Every day.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I either am choosing and coaching myself to be a
certain human being or I am allowing myself to be
this way today. And so I gotta make a choice
every day, like, hey, you know what, I can allow
myself to say today kind of feels like a lay
in the bed day. Today kind of feels like a
drop the kids off and go have a couple drinks.
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And I'm gonna end up tomorrow, even though that might
be a fun day, I'm gonna end up tomorrow being
mad at myself. Right, I'm gonna end up being mad
at my lazer, That's right. And so I gotta choose
every day do I coach do allow it? And so
I've always applied that to myself because that's really what
we're trying to do. And for people that want to
do that, man, it's not as crazy like you just
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heard me list my day. It's not as crazy as
you think. It's about choosing that, Hey, tomorrow, I'm gonna
start a better habit. Like I'm gonna start whatever it is.
Maybe I'm gonna cold plunge, maybe I'm getting asna. Maybe
I'm gonna go walk. Maybe I'm gonna just take a
few steps more than I normally do a day, whatever
that is. Just create that habit. You'll start to get
that positive feeling, those those vibes from it that you'd
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be like, oh, man, I feel little better about myself
today just because of that, And then that'll become contagious,
and then you'll get addicted to that feeling, and then
all of a sudden you'll start to add little things
along the way. Think of it as creating new habits
and not some big, huge, Oh wow, how would I
ever get to this stage that they're talking about, because
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it seems like, man, I could never do it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You can.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
You just got to start to create one little good
habit and let it lead to another.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Look the work effort we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
There's also there's different ways to fight, but this work ethic,
it's pressure pressure pressure. The way our fighters fight, the
way Whitworth plays, it's pressure. Every time he puts his
hands on you. You gonna make it hurt, right, every
time you make it hurt.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, and the other thing and like and there's got
to be little things in your life that show that,
you know, Like one of the things I was famous
for when I played, like, you know, our special teams.
Coach would always show the guys this when we'd have
our kind of situational master meetings. He'd be like, hey,
he'd be showing a clip to teach the guys. He'd
be like, hey, I want you to notice something real quick,
because I don't know if you guys see this every
single week. But regardless of the score, regardless of the situation,
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regardless of what just happened on the drive before, every
single time we take the field, Whitworth sprints to the
hashes and he beats every player on the field of
the huddle. Like every time we could be down forty points,
we could be up forty points. He's sprinting no matter what.
And I always would say when guys will be like,
why do you do that? I'll never forget Cooper Cup
and Tyler Higb be like, ask me that when I
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was a ram and then there'd be little moments where
they try to beat me in a game, like a
all of a sudden, they'd like sprint with me, and
I would laugh because it's like in their mind and
be like, oh, we beat you. And they'd be like, no,
you just did exactly what.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I hope happens.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I got you to do it.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I hope that you do it too, because what
they didn't realize is is that was I was thirty eight,
thirty nine, forty years old than my career Jay, Like,
I get that these guys are looking up to me,
but what could I easily do? Hey, man, you've earned
the right. You're old, you've played this game forever. Everybody
looks up to you. Like, I'll be the last guy
in the huddle. I'm just gonna walk out there. I'm
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gonna take my place because I've earned it. I can
sit on the throne because I've earned the right to
do that. No, no, no, no, I don't ever want you
to see that side. That side means I'm taking what
I got and saying, you know what, I want to
enjoy it. No, I'm gonna be the first one to
beat your ass out there. So he can be like, Wow,
this dude's played more snaps than me, he's got more
injuries than me, he's got more reason to walk, and
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he sprints his ass out there every time. And to me,
that starts to get in guys heads like, man, am
I as committed as that dude is? And so from
my teammates it means something. And for those guys that
you're playing against, they're like, man, I don't know if
I want to go as far as this guy wants
to go, right, And so that was a message that
I always felt like I had the opportunity to send,
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regardless of whether we're up or down, or what the
feelings or emotions are. I don't choose emotions. I choose
what is my mentality every time I walk in the ring.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I really want people to hear that, because you we're
talking about for pro athletes, but you could use this
for anything.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yes, we're talking about this pressure, pressure pressure, right, like
we don't let up. We don't let up.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You throw one punch, I threw five, right, We're worth
funtime on the field.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So that pressure, pressure, bitch, pressure really breaks people.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But what it also does so a you know, the
secret success is you're all work in the world, right,
not by a little by law as Tom Brady what
a different Yeah, that's what it was, right, how you
tell everybody all the time, but I know who the
best is and do more than them.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But also it provides you a measure chaos. Most people
cannot handle chaos. Those of us crazies who do things
like this, and we talk about our anxiety. We're not
great in a lot of public settings. But because we
have this anxiety, this chaos that we create, we are
great in chaos.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Most people aren't.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Where there's this business or sport and you create this
chaos and you're comfortable in it, most people will tap
out business or sport.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yeah, And I think that's the thing is that you
just got to figure out. And that's why I meant
by taking some of these things and saying, all right,
how can I apply it to what I do? Like,
I'm still able to take a lot of those principles
and apply it to working on Thursday night football. I'm
able to apply it to doing a podcast. I'm able
to apply it to those things. Because what is pressure,
Like pressure is is I'm willing to go places I
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don't think other people will go. Like in my career
outside of training really one on ones with guy with
yourself and randing some of those guys, and then like
you know, later in my career at the very end,
I trained with Ryan Sorenson.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But I never worked out at facilities.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I never went in big groups and worked out because
I loved feeling like I don't know what every other
guy does, but I'm gonna go as farther or farther
than I think they'll go by myself, And like that
always helped me when I'd show back up with a
team and be like, wow, okay, I'm in better shape
than these guys, because it's like almost it was a
positive to not know well in life and business and
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everything else, Like it's not about oh man, all right,
I'll be the first one to work and then I'll
stay longer than anybody else.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying things.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
That are like not really positive, but hey, what are
things that I can do to get ahead? Like is
it reading up on information? Is it applying pressure? By
every single time I walk into business meeting with people,
I'm gonna know as much or more than any person
that's in that room. I'm gonna be over prepared for
situations like at all times, and so that is applying
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pressure to people you're around. I'm gonna ask awesome questions.
I'm gonna be a fantastic listener. I'm gonna listen to
people and I'm gonna say, Hey, how do I do
I actually sit in a meeting and do I listen
to respond?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Or am I just waiting to talk? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
How do I apply pressure? A pressure isn't some negative thing,
it's a great thing. You could be making a room
so much better by applying pressure of being the best
question asker in that room, the best listener, the best
at having empathy and understanding the situation and what we're
trying to accomplish as a company. I can apply those
principles as being great at something by applying pressure to
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everyone around me at the way I'm gonna do something,
Hopefully other people will do it as well, and that's
only gonna make us better if we're all putting pressure
on each other to be great at whatever it is
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Look as an NFLU signer, my job's break news or
have inside information.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
On a Sunday, it wouldn't know it. I'm probably one
thousand calls a week.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yep, I don't stop.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It never stops. It never stops, It never stops.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And you know, I don't do the twitter breaking news
stuff anymore because it doesn't make sense to who could
tweet fast? But I'm foxing about Sunny. You always hear
something that you don't hear anywhere else, and that's I think. Now,
that's I think a true insider. But I put in
literally thousands of phone calls per week for you know,
five minutes of TV each week. And that's fine that
you have to do. That's the amount of work gifts.
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But so when when it was playing or what was
training with us? And I kind of struggle with players
now with his wind, his work out with us was
we did like five minutes of hips for him.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
He did a fucking hour and a half lift that
he did, an hour of midst martial arts, he did
an hour of fucking recovery.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
It was every day.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And now I got guys going, hey, can I come
up once or twice a week? And I'm going, I
don't think I can make you a fighter, And once
or twice a week it doesn't really work like that.
It's fucking fight, can't man, just changing your life, you know,
and and it's it's hard to get up guys to understand.
And it kind of always I've marveled at it because
like went Max Crosby last year and he said, I
always ask people to come in when I started six am,
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but like I'm in, he says, no one ever comes.
You know, Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking twelve years,
He's like, nobody wants to do this shit, And I
don't understand why you wouldn't in such a short period
put that extra work in to do what you've done, saying, shit,
it's gonna suck during the time, but it's gonna suck
way more if they closed that glass and my team
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photo for the rest of my life, my grandkids see
someone average.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
That's what I can remember, even after, you know, we
lose the Super Bowl in eighteen and I'm like, man,
I still want to keep playing, but like am I stupid?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And like is it ridiculous?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
At thirty eight, I want to play NFL football steel
Like you know, I want to commit to it and
I want to stay in. I think this is the
right decision, and I remember I ran into Wayne Gretzky
at Sherwood where I live here. He's a member here,
going to play golf there all the time and has
recently moved, but he was here, he's playing golf, and
I saw him and he was like, dude, so much
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respect for you, love watching you play, but let me
let me just leave you one thing before I go play.
And I said, yeah, what's that, Wayne, And he goes, man,
make them rip that jersey off your back. And I
was like, man, that's what I needed to hear, is
to hear an all time great who has accomplished everything
could possibly accomplish. And even him, he's like, man, I
wish I had one more chance to skate on that ice,
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Like you make them rip that jersey off your back,
And so that really I never forget him telling me that.
And I've always told guys that is that, you know what, like,
make them rip that jersey off your back, Like this
is one of the greatest things you'll ever get to do.
Being a part of something way bigger than yourself is
one of the best feelings.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's like, it's wide to me and you and I
have had this conversation recently, like even playing football, like
being in that locker room going through a season Thursday
night football, same thing, traveling with our crew, like being
invested in these games, like loving it, you know, doing
all those things, and all of a sudden, when you
get these breaks, it's like, man, I tail spend because
it's like, man, I, Oh, where'd all that go that
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I was pouring into? And then you go all right, shoot,
like what is my rhythm?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
What's my vibe?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Those things are your struggle. But the truth is that
you just you're realizing, actually it's a great thing because
it's like, I'm realizing how special that is. Man, I'm
actually you know, you're in the moment you're thinking, man,
I can't wait for the off season.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But really, man, you freaking love it.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
And that's why you feel that way is because you
absolutely love the crew you're with, You love what you
do that you're so invested in it and you're chasing
those thousand calls every week that really what you're feeling is, shoot, man,
I miss that other love of my life that really
I don't realize how much passion and energy I put
into and it's helped me to really like understand that
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and go all right, that just means I need to
go pour my passion and energy to this other thing.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And so I think for me it's like that.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
It's like, man, I just wish guys would understand, like
the more you actually put into it, the more you'll
actually fall.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In love with it.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It's like any other relationship, your significant other, your kids,
everything else. Like the more you pour into it, the
more you'll get out of it. And I think some
guys just missed that because they're jaded by probably away.
A lot of things have changed in high school with money,
with nil and college to where it's all transactional, and man,
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transformational life is way better than transactional life.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Man, Like, I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Want to say when I'm done football, media everything like
I was successful. I want to say I was significant.
I want to live a life of significance. I want
people to go, Man, I'm so glad Andrew Whitworth was
in my life. I'm so glad that I got a
chance to be that dude's teammate. I'm so glad that
I had a chance to be his friend. That is significance.
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That's not success. And so I think success will happen
if you live a life of significance in the way
that it's meant to for you and so for me. Man,
that's what I see in guys. I just hope guys
understand that that is bigger than the check. It's bigger
than the notoriety to have that opportunity one day to
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feel like you lived a life of significance, You made
a difference.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Fucking love people. Look and again, there is a there
is a method to this madness too.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
If you guys want to any pro athletes want to
come train with Wit and eye out there, it's up
here in a place called the village. You can d
M him, DM me. But it's fucking all in. We
have guys work in Storre and sent who's gonna train
you every day. We're gonna do mma with you three
four days, five days a week. But it's gonna work
with you. But it's a fucking commitment. You're all in,
not Hey, can I let me get a couple of
workouts in with Ryan or let me I want to
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learn a hand fight and once it's it doesn't work
like that. We don't spar one day going into a fight.
It doesn't work like that. And I want people to
understand the level of commitment that it really takes to
be great, and don't leave those fucking regrets on the floor.
It's up to you, nobody else. It's up to you.
You're not gonna get lucky and have a great career.
Doesn't work like that. It does not work like that.
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And you may have a lucky cats, you may have
a lucky pass, but you're not gonna bit lucky and
have a great career. And if you have a really
good career but you're skin and by, you're gonna fucking
regret that too, because one day you could have put
a gold jacket up. The gold jacket guys were friends
with John Lynches and Tom Brady's. They weren't then coming
out right they put that working Andrew Whitworth, Okay, you
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could turn into that Lane Johnson. You could turn into
that guy. It's never too late to do that. So really, man,
understand whatever it is you're doing, whatever you're passionate about
in life, turn it into a fucking fight and outwork
that person every hour of every second of every hour
of every day of the week.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Make it your passion. As Andrew said, fall in love
with it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's your other relationship before I let you go, tell
me now that you started coaching guys, tell people out
there kind of some of the stuff that you like
to key in for them. Again, for our stuff, we
work on your hips, work on your hands, work in
your hand violence, and work on your your mentality. A
lot of that between the years, stuff that that fighteror mindset.
Tellbody out there, the stuff that you've been able to
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improve over the years that you can outpass these guys.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, I think for me, it's it's really creating a
space where you know when I when I came up
with the concept of building the village, Uh, you know,
it's about creating something that I felt like. Man, all right,
how can combined all the things that I felt like
went into who I became and and what I was
able to accomplish in my career. Uh And and see
also people have impact with how are all the different
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ways that I trained and the things I dabbled in
Because a lot of people who don't know my history,
like I from my entire career, I never really stayed
that consistent with the exact plan of how I was
going to train. I loved to dabble and find. I
was I always said I was on this search and
I was gonna find what is the best optimal way
to train my body and get prepared. I mean I've
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done everything from crosspit crosspit to heavy power lifting to
you know. I I one year I went into like swimming.
I thought like, all right, I'm gonna take pressure off
my body, like I'm gonna learn how to swim like
an Olympic swimmer.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Like.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
So I hired a swim coach and I try at
a swimming pool gym in Louisiana Tech. And you know,
I've done everything from MMA, all the hit training. I've
been to facilities and trained. I've done everything you can
really think of from that aspect. I mean I used
to hike mountains and backpack and rock and everything else.
So I said, hey, how can I combine a lot
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of the knowledge and things that I've gotten from all
those things and say, all right, anybody that walks in
this door, I can help them. I don't care if
they're a skill player, a lineman, doesn't matter, a quarterback.
I can help them on their journey because I've tried
a little bit of it all. And then obviously Ryan
Sorenson's a really special trainer. He's one of the best
I've ever been around in a one on one setting,
and so I was like, man, this is a no brainer.
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I'm gonna help Ryan with his knowledge of what he
already knows. We're gonna put together a lot of thoughts
we have and people who want to come out here
and live in a world of whether it's one on
one or a smaller group type training setting, and really
get that holistic approach, like you know, the infrared SNAs,
the workouts, the walks, the training, all the things it
takes that I think is from the head, the brain
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to the heart to what you do the specifics of
how exactly your body moves and the best optimal way
to take care of yourself. I think some places may
stress your conditioning, some places may stress your strength.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
To me strength, mobility, conditioning.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
None of them gain if we don't all gain, And
so we're chasing how do we find this balance? Because
I think that's in life, whether we're talking about in
a weight room or not, We're all looking for a balance,
Like what's that blend that's our blend for being happy
and finding our spot. I'm trying to help people's bodies
find that blend. What is that perfect cocktail mixture.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
That puts you that's the thing you give.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Also, yeah, if you're go to us man and learn
the answers to the test, what I mean is we'll
learn how to watch film from him.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
We'll learn from technique. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Again, I'm I know more than ninety nine p nine
nine percent about football, but I'll never know more than
him or my friends.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
How he longs there Michael Strahan's I was sitting with
these guys.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
They're watching film and they're looking at the littlest fucking
things and they're like, oh, this guy's foot when it's
you know, third and two and his foot is out.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
And beats a draw. I'm like, how fuck do you
see that?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
They can teach you that, And actually I learned it early,
and I started having you guys try and teach the
fighters that because fighters were watching film.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Besides, Coatore is the first guy to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So it was kind of mixed like, Hey, we're gonna
teach you the fighter mind, you'll teach us this sport.
I Q, so go learn from this man how to
watch film. You will get the answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, you know, I think it colds.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I give you all the answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Just last year, man, we you know, we had Paris
Johnson come in the left tackle for the Arizona Cardinals
and who just had a great year, and you know,
he comes to us with me and Ryan and it's like, hey, man,
you know there's some pattern things in your body, how
you're moving, and little things that like we got to fix.
And so it started with changing his body and then
that led to how he's moving and how he get
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those hips rolling and all all those type things. Because
you're doing some things that are going to lead to
problems for you and we can see it, but let's
fix it. And now he has, you know, a year
where he's healthy and he plays well, and then it
turn that turns into hey, let's go do some drills
and let's talk about stuff, and those kind of things
start coming out. I never forgetting and be like, WHOA,
I have worked with people and I took him to dinner.
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He's like, I've worked with people, I've trained with everybody.
I've chased all these things, and in two days with you,
I've learned more than I think I've learned my entire time.
I've been chased all this for all these years. He's
like just these little things that I just didn't even know,
and that was just so a rewarding, cool opportunity. And
that's the kind of stuff I'm into. Man, it ain't
about my benefit in it. It's about, man, how can
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I help somebody else reach this goal they have Because
the game of football has changed my life significantly. It
has made this awesome impact on my kids, my wife,
all of us have a better experience in life because
of what it's done for me. I just want to
see other people have that same opportunity, and that would
be a freaking cool reward, Like I said, a life
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of significance, to be able to make an impact on
somebody where they feel like, man, you know you helped
me get to where I want to go than like
meet for me, that's the greatest impact I can have.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm right there with you, and I think it's probably well,
we're brothers. I've been doing this is two thousand and seven.
Jared Allen's the first guy trained at MMA and went
from there to Patrick Willis and Brian Cushing and then.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Well I can thank you because my kids love that.
I have literally just bone scars of tissue you on
both forearms about years from years of people shopping is off.
So uh yeah, I have some nice, good little bumps
and my forearm bones. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Jay, Oh hey, things like that. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
And we're at the Pro Bowl one year and Joe
Stelley goes, hey, dude, fuck you.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm like, what what?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He goes fucking claim Matthews, damn there broke my arm
in a fucking game, the NFC Championship game. I'm like, oh,
I've never been more proud of it guy in my life.
I'm so happy because you use that hammerfist.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
We talked. But my point here is I've never gotten
paid for all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
We take money, but I've given it to my fighters,
I've given it to my coach, I've given him my trainers.
I just love to change people's lives, their kids' lives,
their grand kids' lives. That's what it's been about for me,
and that's what it's like for a guy like make
sure whoever you're gonna get coaching you. That's what it's about.
It's about making you break. It's the selflessness when you're.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
A coach man.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
There is nothing like seeing your teammates succeed, and I
do that and everything in life. Man, it's like loyalty
is a dying art and I am for Anyone is
kind of wondering, like, why why is he talking about
the village.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I actually sold them Breakable to my coaches, which is
really cool. I got to pass it on to them.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
With the fires and everything that happened here in Malibu,
I couldn't drive it to West Hollywood anymore. Man, it
takes two and a half hours now, so I said
it's time to just pass it on, which is great.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I'm happy out here in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And luckily brother Win opened a place about ten minutes
from my house. I'm like, great, we'll just start doing
it over there. So it's the village again. Reach out
to him, reach out to me. What's the village on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, it's the village atg on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Before I let you go, one last ning, I then
we started this normally. I asked so many to give
me their breakable moment, and you already did it because
you're on the show.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
But I had one today, hung this weekend, and we
said we.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Started with mental health, I'll finished with mental health, and
this one you're supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
And this weekend broke me, you know. But no, it
didn't break me.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
It fucking beat me down a lot, and to the
point where I was saying, it's some really really really
really dark stuff and normally don't come out of my
mouth about not being wanted to be alive and things
like that.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
And you know, I would.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Never I promised you, and I promise everybody else I
would never take that route because it's selfish. I'm not
going to do it. He just kind of I just
got one of those really bad ditches where man, you're
just hoping you just don't wake up. And it used
to happen a lot more until I started talking about
mental health and happens less now.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
So when it happens now, maybe it's a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Stagtering to me because I have these rituals that Wit
and I are talking about, finding these rituals, finding your
finding those things, and when I kind of get out
of them and for whatever reason, and I don't. I
just signed up for this ship in the first place,
so I know, what's gonna happen. But I made a
promise to Wit and Michael Phelps when I get like this,
(42:30):
I'll reach out.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'll hold myself accountable.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I did and it's great because I have brothers
that I was able to reach out to and even
doing this this pocket. You know, here's the thing to
a guy with mental health. I'll never take a fucking
day off from it because I'm not gonna let it win.
I don't do that ship. I'll fight you, I'll make
it hard. I ain't gonna do that shit. So that's
the truth of it. But I want to finish on
that because I want people to know, you know, what
(42:55):
these brotherhoods do, and that you make a promise to someone,
you got to keep that promise.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I appreciate you, man, and it's still.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Going through, but you uh, probably at least fifty percent
better from just coming on doing this ship and talking
to you earlier and being able to unpack it.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Yeah, I appreciate you, brother, you know, I love you,
and uh, you know that's like I said, that's that's
the difference to me when we talk about just chasing
many mental health and then finding being mental wealth mentally wealthy.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
And and you know what, Jay, like, you're.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Gonna have these moments because that's how we're wired. We
didn't sign up for it anyways. And you know, you
and I have shared over the years times like that
when they happen, and and for me a lot of
the times. You know, there's certain things that triggered over
times and sometimes we know it's coming, sometimes we don't.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
But becoming mentally wealthy is being able to have these
moments that we've created, uh, like this where we got
a brother to share it with and we've got somebody
that we can be accountable to. And that's that's being
mentally wealthy is that you now have a much bigger team.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You've done an awesome job of creating those things. So
when I talk about life of signific against man, the
impact that you've made on multiple people and a massive
amount of people through your book, through this podcast, through.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Everything else, you are mentally wealthy. Brother.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
So man, you are needed, You are significant, And that's
what you got to know about yourself. You know, I
love you, But we all have them, man, And you
know it's one of the reasons I stay so active
and work out so much is because you know, I'll
go back to you know those things, those those crazy
roommates will start telling me things that happened twenty years
ago or fifteen years ago, ten years ago and beat
(44:32):
me up about it, you know, and then I'm like wait,
you know, like no, no, no, no, like go do something,
get that out of your system, let it go. And
we all got to find what it is that makes
us mentally wealthy. And friends like you man definitely helped
me do that. And I hope you realize how significant
and you know how many, how big your mental wealth is, Man,
(44:53):
that you've created with this podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You've got a lot of people that look up to
you every single day for the example you lay for.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
That's why it's my obligation to talk about it. When
it's like this, By the way, you can hear it
to you my voice. It's just, man, it's kicked my
ass this weekend and it happened. We were at Nobu Malibu,
middle of it afternoon and happened the greatest day and then.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Fucking sky just fell on me.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Been laid kind of lifeless ever since, trying to fight
it through and trying to get myself going. Yesterday but again,
you it's my obligation a to stay alive, because that's
that's it. Like there's I'm not not that that's it.
And I got to use my pain to help others
through theirs. Yeah, so next time you hear me, I'm
sure I'll be a lot peppier and lively or I
(45:37):
fucking pulled it off today regardless. But this is also
like twenty one listening out there, like these are the
conversations you need to have. You heard Andrew's reaction to me.
He didn't fucking call me a plus, he didn't fucking
tell me suck it up. He didn't do any of
that shit right, And that's why you gotta lean into
your teammates.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
So, brother, I love you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I'd only do that if you put your hands on
your hips. Okay, that didn't happen to him, Wed.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I appreciate you, man, I love you, Boddy, I love you, brother.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Appreciate it for this weekend, for life, Yes, sir,
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