Breaking Records In Buffalo with Andre Reed

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From the King of sports Books comes the Key Sports
Podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Okay, the name of the

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game is parody. The unpredictable NFL season continues. Aaron Rodgers,
Tom Brady, two future Hall of famers. Yeah, they lose
to a couple of XFL along backup quarterbacks. Really a
fourth string quarterback for Carolina. So who had that in
their parlay? That is wild? Jerry Ferrara, I'm gonna take
it that wasn't on your teasers, was it. No? I

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fortunately stayed away from the Bucks in the teaser because
they destroyed mine the week before. I did have the
Packer in a teaser, but different than Peter Andrew who
had them at plus one and a half. I waited
and bought the extra point to make the Packers plus
three and they lost by two. So my teas are
held up by the but I had, like by the

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insurance points almost to make Aaron Rodgers and the Packers
hit a teaser. That's so sad. I know they've been
favorites in their last three games, they've dropped all three.
We'll get two more of that later. Unfortunately, we've got
to give that a little air time. But hey, we
got a World Series set Houston Astros Philadelphia Phillies that
begins Friday. Jerry, I know you've got some thoughts on that.

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What what comes to mind right away, this is the
exact two teams that should be there. My Yankees lost
the Astros justifiably, so the Astros are so much better
than the Yankees, and the Phillies are that awesome baseball
story about the team that gets hot at the right time.
Bryce Harper, happy for him. You know, I and I
just think it's a great, great matchup, and I honestly

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would I want the Yankees to be there to watch.
But this, to me is gonna be better baseball. Yeah, okay,
I'm with it. I'm for you. I was thinking when
I was watching that Padres Billy's last game, and it's rainy,
it's cold, everyone's there in jackets, and it did look
like a really fun atmosphere. But I'm like, you know,
Jerry's right, these games should be done by now. You're

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coming around, just isn't right. Yeah, we're gonna do more
on that at some point. I'll lay out a whole
bigger case. But yeah, baseball, get it together. And then
I posted something on Twitter. I was just looking at
all the Southern California teams and like where they should,
like where, like where they after the Lakers lost that
game on Sunday, I'm like, where are the Lakers ranking?
And all the Southern California professional teams take U, C,

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l A, and USC out, and it's gonna be like
Dodgers Padres. I mean you go charge, you could charges rams, like,
you know, there's a lot that could go in front
of them. Just there's I mean, don't all of them
pretty much. I think the Angels at the bottom. Sannaheim,

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you know, you have two really good players, that's really it.
I think the Angels maybe are like the bottom. I
think the Kings might even be ahead right now. What's
the l A Galaxy doing right now? Let's out? Someone
tweeted at me about like the there was some crazy matchup.
I know nothing about soccer. I'm sorry, guys listening. Oh

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they're in the They're in the conference semifinals, right yeah,
so yeah, throw them in. Sure, I just don't know
enough to put them there. But the Padres are ahead.
You know so yeah, yeah, Akers, tough sledding. Yeah, we'll
get to more NBA news. Take our our takes from
the first week. I think we've learned a lot, at

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least enough for some podcast bodder because some surprises in
the opening week of the NBA season. But we have
a really great guest coming up today, Pro Football Hall
of Famer Andre Read. He's joining us. We're going to
talk to him about his legendary career and if he
thinks that this is the year is Buffalo Bills finally
bring the Lombardi Trophy back to Buffalo quick? Jerry, what

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do you think do they? I think this is definitely
the best year to do it. And I'm curious to
talk to Andre Read to about, you know, the Beckham
thing and is is he really going to maybe go
to the Bills or do they even need him? Like
they're so loaded to be great for death. So a
lot to talk about. And Andre Reid's game is just
one of those receivers you look at like right now,
I plug him into any team with the way he played,

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and he's like the perfect receiver. Absolutely. I think he's
like second all time and Super Bowl receptions behind Jerry
Rice or something. I mean, this is this is a
big guest today, Jerry. I'm excited to talk to him. Yeah,
we're following up Kevin Garnett. You say, oh, b J,
and I don't think the Bills need him. So many
teams need a receiver more than the Bills, one of
them being the Green Bay Packers. Holy cow. I mean,

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I'm kind of running out of words, and it's it's
making me feel better that Tom Brady and the Buccaneers
are also laying an egg at the same time because
very different trajectories, very different stories, but both TV twelve
and a Rod we're upset big with what. You know,
a lot of people are getting side I from the
rest of the league. Right. I mentioned green Bay gets
their third straight loss, and that's the first three game

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skid under Matt la Floor. Like ever since he's come
to Green Bay, things have been rosy, So I don't
know what to make of it. I saw one headline
that said it's wilful negligence in reference to what the
front office did at the receiver position, and I think
that sums it up pretty well. I think it does too.
I mean, you know, they took a big bet with
their rookie receiver that And look, you can't say he

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hasn't panned out because it's only been seven games. But
for seven games it certainly hasn't penned. I mean, you
were running Randall Cobb out there, and this is no
disrespect to Randall cop I love Randall Cobb five years ago.
You know. It's uh, it's a lot too. It's a
lot to ask, So I'm no longer surprised by and

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it doesn't get any easier the cat the Packers have
to walk into those very same Buffalo Bill we were
just talking about next week, so there's no end in
the horizon. This would be a huge upset to me
if they could somehouse. There are eleven and a half
point underdogs right now, Aaron rod eleven and a half
and a half point. Now, grant it's the Bills and

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it's in Buffalo eleven. When's the last time Aaron Rodgers
has been a double digit underdog in a game. We
need John Ewing to answer that question. We're going to
get on that and if we find out the answer
by the end of the show, we'll put it at
the end when we talk to Peter Andrew. But I
mean it's crazy. I think what concerns me so much
about Green Bay is that they didn't convert a third
down for the first time since. Let that sink in

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for a minute, like it's so tough. And of course
when their division is usually the Aaron Rodgers Invitational. Now
they have the same record as the Bears, and oh yeah,
the Vikings are legit leading the way at five and
one coming off by But you know, I will say,
in regards to the NFC North, the Vikings have a
pretty tough month at Arizona Bills Cowboys, but as you mentioned,

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Packers as well, starting with a trip to Buffalo this weekend,
and then they have Dallas, Tennessee, Philly. So NFC North
I think would be really interesting here in the next month.
That's actually kind of how I feel about the whole NFL.
I think November defines a lot of what you're doing,
do you know what I mean? Because any early season
kinks are out of the way, injuries are piling up,

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or you're getting healthy like a team like you know,
the forty nine ers, for example, I keep mentioning every
week they're about to get healthy. They're gonna get so good.
They added CMC. You know, I don't know. November is
gonna be pretty good in the NFL. It's been, yes,
But before we close out October, could we just salute
October and maybe now formally rename it money line Parlay

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October because if you were riding underdogs on Monday money
line parlays for the last two three weeks, you have
made some money. My it's just been one after the other.
The Buccaneer losing outright after having to ten points, you know,
being favored by over ten points two weeks in a row.

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That's one of the worst losses I think I've ever
seen a supposed Super Bowl contending team had. They just
got abused for four quarters and I love, I mean,
just three points against a team that has pretty much
packed it up. Carolina just fired their coach, traded one
of their best players. Um, they're playing their fourth string quarterback,
I mean, and they put up twenty one points on them, right,

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that's inexcusable. Do you think this is going to be
the most Like you know, NBA, there's always these kind
of moves where a team is like, wait, we're underachieving,
we gotta make a move. Does Tampa and Green Bay
like they have to make a move for this to
get better. I mean, Tampa to me does have more
blue Chippers on both sides of the ball. When Mike
Evans dropped that touchdown pass on like the opening play,

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that's where I knew Tampa was in trouble because Mike
Evans does not drop passes like that. But they have
no middle of the field presence. I know it supposed
to be Govin. The Bucks have to be like, offer
something for Gisicky or beg Grunk. They have to get
one more because I had to say it was Antonio
Brown doing right now. Antonio Brown would be like the
perfect piece for this team. That's never gonna happen, but

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they need something offensively. Yeah, and obviously Julio Jones out
with a knee and he got way too much preseason
hype for an injury prone older guy, right. I mean
everyone was all excited about Julio Jones. I wasn't buying it.
Mike Evans is expected to miss tonight's game against the Ravens.
Wrestle gauges out. Yeah, Chris Godwin's kind of it as
far as options that he trusts, and they're also one

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of the worst rushing teams in the league. They're dead
last in some rushing stats, so they don't have a
lot going for him offensively. And again a short week
after that Panther's loss, and yeah, tonight against the Ravens.
I like the Ravens in this spot. Yeah, you know,
the Ravens have their own issues as well as we've seen,
but two huge games. I can't stress how big these

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games are for the Packers in the because these are
easily games that they could lose, and if they do,
then they're really starting to get far behind. The Packers
might almost be too far behind the catch up. The
Bucks fortunately are in the South, so they could throw
it away for a few more weeks and maybe they're
just trying to get healthy and back by like week
ten and they can start there run there. But this

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it's just been hard to watch, been ugly. Speaking of
the Nnessey South, I have a hot take. I don't
think the winner of this division will have double digit wins.
I mean, it's it's so bad. In Tampa. Bay is
still leading and they beat Atlanta and the head to head,
so they're good there, but yikes, what a horrible division.
And I just gotta say one more thing with the

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Tom Brady stuff. Obviously, everything going on off the field
is really sad, Like I actually hate watching this, and
I heard Bill Simmons on his podcast say his sources
have told him that his divorce is all but finalized,
which is really horrible. I hate to see that, and
then that kind of loops in Antonio Brown just being
at caustic asshole tweeting this stuff and putting up pictures
of him and Giselle. It's all such a mess. I

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can't imagine Tom Brady walking into the facility every every
day with all this going on. You know, he's got
kids and there's a lot going on. Um, but this
is the first time in his in twenty years, in
the last twenty years, that Tom Brady is under five.
I mean, you got like a five million dollar broadcasting
contract waiting for you that you signed when we thought

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you retired. I still love watching Brady play. I do
want to see him try to make one more run.
I think it'll be fun. But look, Eli and Peyton,
they they just had Obama on the Manning cast and
they had Bill Burt look like they're having fun. So
you know, maybe that that could be fun, Tom. It
could be great. It could be great. I think he'd
be so great. But you know, not not that I'm

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his therapist or anything, but I would take a couple
of years off, you know, just kind of get kind
of figure some stuff out. Anyways, I don't even know
if that means for him taking a few years. Yeah,
he probably can't. He probably one of those guys who
truly can't. Probably not a very good hang on vacation,
you know, I'm serious, Like there's some guys who just

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cannot turn it off. This will be a good heat
check if he's listening. My husband fits in this category sometimes.
My husband, when we go on vacation, does not know
how to sit still. See I'm the opposite. I only
want to sit still on vacation. I don't want to
go snorkeling. I don't want to go see the cool mountain,
like we're in a cool hotel. Let's just kick it.

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I don't want to do anything on vacation. Oh my god.
The first we're dating, and he was with the Houston
Rockets and it was NBA All Star Break and we
were going to go to Mexico and it was like
our first trip together. And he said, what are we
gonna do? And I was like, you know, I just
sit on the beach, Penny Clods, I don't know. And
we get there and he we sit up on the
beach and he goes, so what are we gonna do?
I'm like, oh boy, I have to teach this guy

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how to vacation. Anyways, that's a tangent. Like I said,
I'm not a relationship therapist, but start with a good vacation. Well,
here's my last hot take before we move on. I
go pool over beach all day Oh, you're one of
those guys who doesn't like to get dirty. You don't
like the sand, like the sand on my toe. I
pool over beach all day long. Okay, I can get it.
But that's saltwater, man. Oh that is that is medicine.

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A seatox. Okay, it's time Jerry for a Halloween edition
of Unleaked. It's time to unleash. We're calling this game
trick or treat, which is how original. That's right. One

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thing is for sure this NFL season, anybody can beat anybody.
One day a team looks great, the next they're suffering
a humiliating loss. So it's very spooky stuff. So a
team will knock on the door and then Jerry, you
and I will decide if they are playing tricks on
us this season or if they're actually a treat. Are
you ready? I'm ready. Let's do it all right, Let's

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use that the door first. Oh, look who it is.
It's the four and three Los Angeles Chargers, Olivia. This
one's an easy one for me. This is a trick.
They've been tricking us. And if it's not injuries, like
you know j C. Jackson for the season, which is horrible,
or Mike Williams for a couple of weeks. I also
think that Herbert, who's great like but is he great? Like? Yeah,

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he does things that look great, but like, let's win
some games. Two charges have been tricking us. I'm with you.
I think they're a trick. They just lost by two
scores at home to your Seattle Seahawks after three game
win streak, and like you mentioned, they lost a lot
more than just the game. J C. Jackson, Mike Williams,
Ed Rusher Chris Chris Rump also injured in this game.

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They're already without Joey Bosa, who's recovering from a growing surgery. Uh. Look,
they just got Keenan Allen back, but he didn't even
play in the second half because he wasn't feeling it.
So I don't know. I think. I think they are
as depleted as any team in the NFL. The Oline
has struggled. The run game is a mess. They're a
trick Okay, who's at the door? Next it's the floor
and two Titans and Jerry. I think they are a

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treat top of the a f C. South there four
and two. Like I said, they're exceeding expectations. No one
saw this coming. They're playing old school football. It's non flashy.
And now we've got to see how Tannehill does after
this ankle injury he just had last week against the Colts,
and that when he did finish the game, we got
to monitor it. But him coming back to finish that
game shows how tough they are because the old line

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kind of similar story. Guys are fighting through these injuries
and Derrick Henry three straight weeks of a hundred yards
and more importantly, this defense is legit at a couple
interceptions for his bumble last week. They got Matt Ryan benched,
So I like them. They're a treat. I completely agree.
The history has shown on their fabel they are a treat.
We kind of always look past the Titans. I don't

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know why, but they're always there. That division is such
a mess. I think they got the Texans and the
Broncos next to two out of three weeks. So there's
a lot of wins there. Yeah, and even if Tannehill,
who if he struggles with injuries, I like Mollie Willis
coming in if he has to give them some some snaps.
And Matt Ryan you mentioned and I don't know, I
they're gonna show up at the door. We're talking about
saving private Ryan not Ryan might need to just like,

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yeah he's done that. That looks bad him and do
him and Tom Brady need to go on vacation together.
Maybe just like they can go stay somewhere really nice.
They're super loaded. I just do something. Yeah, we don't know.
If we don't know if the cults are gonna knock,
we don't know who's up next. This is an interesting one,
great costume. The four and three Miami Dolphins. I have

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to say treat. I mean, it's such a shame. I'm
worried because of everything with Ta and what he's been
through the last few weeks. And Kenny stay healthy. I mean,
this is gonna be a thing to look out for.
But they did show how stout they could be against Pittsburgh.
They had some big fourth quarter stops to win. The
offense did just enough, and they're just not healthy yet.
If they get healthy and stay healthy, they are a

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treat all day. Yeah, in this Tyreek Hill experiment is
paying off. I love tyreekan to it together. They've proven
to be a great match. They have Detroit this weekend.
Mark that as a win. Dolphins are a treat. Okay,
who's at the door. It's the Ravens and they're also
four and three, and Jerry, I hope I don't regret
saying this. I think they're a trick. I think they're

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a trick. Now. Look, the defense has improved a lot.
Their top five in the NFL and interceptions. They pulled
one off last week at a three point win over Cleveland.
But look, I'm concerned about this offense. They're trending in
the wrong direction. Lamar Jackson only had sixteen pass attempts
last week. He hasn't really gotten in a rhythm the
last couple of weeks. Actually, they're averaging just twenty and

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a half points, about twenty points three twenty yards in
their last four games. Their first three they average thirty
three and three eighty. And I'm throwing a lot of
numbers at you. But it's bad. Okay, it's bad. And
they play tonight against Tampa Bay. I think this could
be a get back game for a team that is
super vulnerable, and they need it because Lamar Jackson needs
to get in his rhythm in the passing game. They're

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struggling on offense. There a trick. I think they're an
absolute treat. Now. I know it hasn't looked good. They
are also one of the most injured teams in the league.
It just year in, year out. I do think Lamar's
looked good, not great great in flashes could look better,
and I think will once they get you know, they
get their running backs healthy at some point and their

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receivers healthy at some point. Four and three in that division,
I think the Bengals are coming alive. But also think
about the a f C for a minute. Okay, who
are the wild card teams? Really? Who are we talking
about when we think wild cards? Is it the cults?
Is that the Chargers, Is that the Dolphins? Is that
the Jets? I think the Ravens are a shoe in
for a wild card team, So I'm going I'm going

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to treat okay, all right, this is another Los Angeles team,
l A so so cow sports just killing it this year.
The three and three Rams for me Olivia, this is
an absolute trick. Now I know they won the Super Bowl.
They're missing von Miller and O b J for sure.
I think this isn't even a trick. I think this

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is like now the old dude who still wants to
go to the costume party. It's like put the costume away,
like Halloween's like wu tang, It's for the kids, like
put it away, don't show up. Why are you still
trick or treating? You're old? I'm worried. Now. Could the
Rams get healthy? Put it together with that veteran team
for sure, and they still got Jealen Ramsey and I
love McVeigh, but I don't like when I'm seeing motivationally

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and also just age wise with Stafford, that's a lot
of hits he's taken. It's a lot of wear and tear.
So it's Cooper cop versus the world. Yeah, I hear you.
I think Rams are a treat. I think they're getting healthier,
just in time. They have San Francisco this weekend. I
think they beat San Francisco. Um. But yeah, their division

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has proven more difficult than expected, mostly because of your Seahawks. Again,
I've come out of nowhere and then I do think
San Francisco with the addition of Christian McCaffrey now and again,
they just need like two of these stars to come back.
They're just anyways, that's a tangent, but division is tough.
Rams are going to get better. Um. I think they

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are a treat. Okay, we've talked a lot about him.
Knock knock, knock. Here are Jerry's Seahawks sitting up four
and three seven weeks into the season. No one would
have thought that the Seahawks would be leading the NFC
West with the hell my co host and Jerry, I'm
I'm really glad that we got this on tape a
couple of weeks ago. That might have even been our

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first show. But you are looking very smart here. Look,
they have a young team. They've rookies up and down
the starting lineup, and they all believe. It's like the
ted Lasso believe sign must be in that locker room.
They have this all decade coach and Gino Smith at quarterback.
He's putting together a Pro Bowl season. He's earning himself
a lot of money next year. And Kenneth Walker the third,
My god, I can't say enough good things about him.

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He was crazy. So I don't know. I'm worried with
DK mccalf. I think he's going to try to come
back to early. I think he's out this week, Um,
probably a couple of weeks, but he's going to try
to come back. Um. Luckily he doesn't need surgery on
that knee injury. But look, they have some winnable games
coming up, and I don't know. I don't know if
I want treat I don't think you declared. You have

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not declared yet. You have to declare. You just laid
out a beauty case for you. Got to declare. I
just I can't do it. I can't do it. I
just don't think like some magic with a young squad
is sustainable. I just have a hard time saying that
this is for what have they been this year to
this point? Have they been a trick or have they
been a treat? Oh, they've been a treat, And what

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do you see going forward? So you're saying up, listen, Key,
I need all this doubt. I love it. Keep bringing it.
I want everyone to keep bringing it, because now we
turn on any podcast or any any talking head show,
the Seahawks or Everyone's darling? Who's darling? Were you first? Seattle?
Who's darling? When you first? I believe? And I'm the

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only one you drafted Kenneth Walker and so many people
in my fantasy leagues like who you watch? I do
worry about the DK Metcalf thing. That's that's a little troubling.
And Key again when they took him off on that cart, thought, oh,
he probably just has to pee again. That was last week.
I have over wins and I have Division winner on
the Seahawks, and I have that mixed in with some

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giants over winds Parley. I I have some stuff in
the my futures profile. Is you'd want to invest in
my futures profile? Yeah? God, your kid's tuition on the
line right there with the Seahawks. Okay, a couple more,
This one will be fun for you. I can't wait
trick or treat. Who's at the door. It's the Minnesota

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Vikings at five and one. I mean, it ain't pretty,
but you have to say treat. Okay, they're coming off
a bye, so you like the thing that they're healthy.
Everything is just lining up. Green Bay continues to get words, Cousins,
continues to get better, and continues to not get hit.
He's one of the least sack quarter acts in the league.
Hard to believe that. And the only loss is to
Philly and that was a game. Now they have only

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one four they won four straight since by like one score.
They're kind of a heart attack waiting to happen when
you watch that As a sustainable I don't know. But
they have Justin Jefferson, and to me, that's also someone.
While we talked about this trick or treat stuff, I
love talking Justin Jefferson. Plus six hundred for Offensive Player
of the Year. I think that's a good number to
get right now. He's not the favorite by any stretch.

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I think it's Jalen Hurts. I think that's a great
number to do a little sprinkling on Justin Jefferson offensive
player of the Year. Not you know, it's not a
lottery ticket, but I think it's a solid investment. Right
now that number goes lower, I think that number the
odds get worse. I'd be an idiot to say the
Vikings are not a treat. I really think they are.
As I mentioned earlier, they have a tough November schedule.

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Justin Jefferson, top three receiver in the league. He's so
much fun to watch. Now, if I can be a
hater for a minute, I would say they're four straight
game that they've won by one score. Is that one
of those situations where you can say, does their record
look better than they are? You know what I mean?
I mean, if we're it's a game of inches, are
we inches away from them being like three and three?

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I don't know. I'm just trying to be a hater,
but they're a treat. What am I saying? Okay, the
New York Giants your team. I gotta see him up
close and personal here in London, England. I gotta see
him beat my team, and that was not fun. But
they are a treat. Tough ground games, second most rush
yards in the NFL. They have Dallas on their heels,

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and now they have Dak Prescott back to really find
a groove. And those two teams meet on Thanksgiving. That
is a huge game. But Jerry, I think the Giants
went out until that game at Seattle. Then they host
the Texans, then they host the Lions. They're legit, They're
not getting much respect around the league, and I think
they are a treat. I think that is a harder
and six and one record. So look, this is an

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emotional one for me, and I'm going to be careful
year because I love underdog mentality. We were underdogs last week,
gonna be underdogs again in Seattle. Historically, Seattle has been
a really weird place for the Giants to play. I
remember the Sean Alexander game when they had like forty
five false start penalties because it was so loud in there.
It bums me out because like, obviously, the Giants are

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my favorite team and the Seahawks are my crush of
the year, so it's hard. I obviously want the Giants
to win, but it's gonna hurt my Seahawks bet. But yeah,
the Giants are a treat. And I will say Thanksgiving
first to cow I haven't cared about the Thanksgiving game,
and I don't know how many years now my birthday
is November, I'm either on or around Thanksgiving. This year

(25:44):
it's the next day. And now we've segued into adulthood
where Brie and I were like the we host Thanksgiving,
so I have full control of TV's not going to
someone else's house, and it's like they want the Thanksgiving
parade on. That game will be on every single TV.
I could disappear into my own bedroom if I want
gets too intense, and I could like sweat it out
in there. And lastly, I'm sorry, lastly talk about coach crush.

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I have a coach crush. I think we all do.
Brian Dable coming out of Jacksonville walking up to the
fans signing autographs while smoking a cigar where black cement
Jordan's threes. Are you kidding me? It's like someone said, hey,
let's make Jerry Ferraras like favorite things and put it
in a coach. Oh my god. I put that video

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to the opening theme song for the Sopranos because it
had strong Tony soprano vibes coming out with the cigar. Well,
what a guy. I just stable, But I have such
a coach crush on Dable it's insane. Boy. We have
different definitions of coach crush, because for me, I'm just
thinking Mata Fleur is a good looking man. Okay, let's
move on. That was a good unleashed segment. I'm exhausted

(26:49):
from trick or treating. I realized why I'm too old
for the ship. Our guest today is one of the
best to ever do it. At wide receiver. He holds
nearly every Buffalo Bills receiving record, played in seven straight
Pro Bowls, and of course help the Bills win a

(27:10):
record four straight a SC championships. My god, Pro Football
Hall of Famer Andre Read is here. Welcome to the show,
Andre oh Man. You know, we talked of off camera
here a little bit, so we're all over the place.
But I'm glad to be here. I appreciate you guys.
Finally I'm finally getting it right here to get on
with you. So here we go. I love it. Yeah,

(27:32):
you're you're in Ottawa right now and and always doing
some work off the field and your post career. But look,
I'm always curious about this. As the NFL evolved, which
are some of the offenses you'd love to play in today? Well,
you know what's That's a great question because a lot
of the offenses have used our formula in a way

(27:52):
if you guys, you guys don't, maybe you do, you
probably do remember to know huddle and uh fast paced.
So that's always has been a part of their people's offenses.
But um, the game is different. They want to spread
you out even more than they did when we when
I came in the league, especially when our no huddle
started working real well. You know, you gotta have a
good quarterback that knows what he's doing, good receivers, a

(28:15):
good running back that we had. But the offenses now
were you know all about the quarterback. It's always been
about the quarterback and getting the guys around them to
make them better in their their offense more efficient. Um,
you need to stout the offensive line that can protect
that guy. And that's really the trend, it's been a
trend the last twenty years in the league is to

(28:37):
have that stud quarterback. You gotta have the receivers and
you gotta have a running back that can catch the
ball and run ball. Now, I'm not letting you have
to hook that easy. You gotta name a team. I
think the Bills, the chief staying the Bills. Of course,
the Bills and the Rams are kind of like you
know that those teams. You know, you got Cooper cup
On with the Rams and Stafford, and you've got Digs

(29:00):
and Gabriel Davis with Josh Allen. Uh So, of course
I'm biased. I'm gonna go with the Bills. You're right, obviously,
although your phone might ring, and it might be Tom
Brady or Aaron Rodgers because they're in desperate need of
some receiving health. So your phone might ring and say, hey,
and could you come give us a quarter right now?
I feel like you got that in you right now,
you're in great shape. I can actually give them a quarter,

(29:22):
actually a quarter, like like a physical quarter, a physical quarter.
I give them anything else. I don't know about that,
but again, um, obviously you have Yes, the Bills, I'm
gonna go with. Their offense are very you don't see
really fast paced offenses anymore. It's more about efficiency and
the guys in the right positions doing the right things

(29:43):
with an offensive line that can protect the quarterback. Yeah,
you know you mentioned how a lot of teams right
now play the style that you you know, the Bills
are playing. In the nineties, and uh, I absolutely was
always a friend. I'm a Giants fan, so even in
the Super Bowl I was terrified to play your bills
like that offense was something we never saw before. They
did a good job of keeping us off the field.

(30:03):
And to stop an offense that could score a lot
of points, you don't let them on the field. And
that's you know, that's what the Giants did back in
the day. But I don't know if that's the benchmark
of how defenses go about defense and some of these
really good offenses nowadays, it probably still is. You've got
to keep them off the field and don't make mistakes
and and keep them within you know what they not

(30:25):
only what they do best, but trying to limit them
at what they do best. You know, it's fun. Thanks
to YouTube, we can look up so many great highlights.
Tap type in anyone and you can see any play
any day. It's really cool seeing some one handed catches
of yours. Now they go viral, you know, on social media,
but you know you were you were doing it long before,
oh b J. So what was the comparison then of

(30:49):
just people walking down the street and saying, hey, nice catch,
Because it's all over the internet. So social media has
not only enhanced sports, but it's enhanced the world. And
you know, in the early eighties and early nineties, late eighties,
early nineties, there was no such thing. And um, I
tell all these guys, you can have one catch and

(31:10):
that can go viral and that could be the catch
that makes you who you are. And if you don't
back in the eighties, if you didn't see that catch,
you might not ever see it. So that's the difference.
That's definitely the difference. Now guys, guys are out there more,
they're doing a lot more and using their platform more
to enhance what they do, want to feel and what
they do off the field, for better, for worse, yes,

(31:33):
hopefully for better, mostly for better. Yeah, you know, in
recent years, but we said, we've seen it in the
NBA where the sort of the super team, right, we
never really saw it in football, but we're starting to
see it a little bit more where it seems like
guys are sort of pairing up almost like there's player recruiting.
Was there anyone that you can recall back during those
Bills years that not that you were recruiting necessarily because

(31:56):
it's such a different era, but just someone that you
need the Bills are maybe even close to get. It's like,
if we just get this guy here, it would put
us over the level. Or were you guys just all
not enemies? But just like he didn't even think that
way to We didn't know that's that's a good question
to you guys are coming up with some good ones.
We didn't even think of it that way because we
had everything. We felt we had a team that we

(32:18):
wanted to keep the keep together for ten to fifteen
years if we could and develop that. Obviously, free agency
was big back then, but it's not as big as
it is. You know, it wasn't big back then, and
like like it is now. Um, one player could put
you over the top. And a lot of teams in
this league are looking for that one player offensive defense

(32:39):
or whatever to get him over the top. I e.
Von Miller last year with the Rams. You know, he
put the Rams over the top. So glad we have
von Miller now. Anyway, but these guys now that are
at the end of their careers, they want to go
to a team where not only can they make a difference,
but put their team on the right path to win

(32:59):
a super Bowl. Von did that last year and we're
hoping he does that with the Bills this year. So, UM,
I think teams think that way. Whether or not that happens, Um,
it's here and nor there, but they look for that
one player that can put him over the top, to
get him over the hump, to get him to the
Super Bowl and win. And Von has already brought so

(33:19):
much to this Bills defense this year. But what about
his former Rams teammate Odell Beckham Jr. Gott to bring
it back to him? Would you like to see him
in the Bills uniform? Yeah, of course. I mean I
said this a couple of months back, and I met
with Odell and it went viral to Uh, I met
with O'Dell in in Atlantic City and he's working hard
to get back on the field, and I think he

(33:39):
will be with the team. He talked with Von, and
Von has a good way of and I said this,
Von has a great way of lur and some of
his guys to follow him, and uh, we love to
see you know, O'Dell in in red, white and blue
and buffalo. But that's yet to be seen. Who knows.
There's a lot of teams that are vuying for Odell
Services right now and we'll see how that goes. But

(34:01):
if Von has anything to do with it, you can
bring him bringing the Buffalo just you know, some chicken
wings and some blue cheese and all that kind of
The fans of Buffalo are out of control. They're crazy.
Bills Mafia. Maybe Odell will h you know, lean towards
Buffalo a little bit more than the other teams. Andre.
I saw that clip you speak about Bills Mafia, right.

(34:22):
I love Bills Mafia. I saw the clip of you
going through at the table. Alright here, I am. Let's
go Bills and bring a championship back to the to
the city of Buffalo. Bills, Baby, let's do this. That's

(34:45):
gotta hurt, man, It doesn't hurt now when you when
you had Steve at Water and Ran and Ronnie Lock
coming at you full steam with no flags. Going through
a table is nothing well you brought up to date.
Steve Atwa was one of my favorite players to watch.
I would love to talk for a second. I'm sure

(35:05):
you've been asked this in your career and even post
career so much so forgive me, but I get the
chance to talk to you you know, the comeback as
the game is referenced to right, thirty five to three,
deaf is it now? Also, I will say Frank Right
gets a lot of the love, as he should. But
you had eight catches for a buck thirty six and
three touchdowns in that game. So we should never overlook
that fact of the comeback. I'm just always, you know,

(35:28):
because I respect pro athletes so much within the heat
of battle, like when you're at the half of that game,
is there really that feeling of still believing? Even we
saw it with Brady and the comeback with Atlanta Downe,
You guys are down thirty five to three to another
high powered offense. That offense was the only thing close
to yours. You guys are still believing at that point? Right?

(35:49):
Of course you first of all, you guys weren't born,
right I was. I wasn't Were you born? Like? No?
That was it was so how I was born? I
was twelve? There my point there. Um, that's a great question, man.
I think that game that not not only goes down

(36:11):
the history, is one of the greatest games that ever played.
It's the way that game I went. You know, we
didn't we had played Houston the week before to even
get to that game. So we had to win that
game just to get to the to the wild card game,
and we happened to be down in Houston, the old
the old Astrodome. We played in. Yeah, I'm really aged myself,

(36:35):
you guys, I just want you to know. And we
got we got the pretty well down there. Moren moon
they put it on us. So we ended up having
to play then the next week in Buffalo, and we
came out and laid an egg the first half of
this half of that game, and we were like, oh,
are we gonna do this in front of our fans,
And we had to make a conscious effort and the

(36:56):
decision we got this far, we didn't and I'll go out.
You know. We didn't want to go out like we did. Uh,
we don't want to go out losing like we did
the week before. So we got two fans on our
side and a couple of plays and before you know it,
you know we're kicking a field goal to win the game.
So it's it's just a game of things changing and

(37:17):
you'll be able to capitalize on the things that are changing.
Every Yeah, they can give you a bowl of whatever
you like to eat. If there's not one or two
ingredients in that bowl whatever you like to eat, you
you might not eat it. So we ended up having
that everything going our way with the fans and everything,
and just so happens that we we capitalize on everything
they gave us. Oh that's a good story. Yeah, that

(37:39):
one always stuck out. I think it was a lot harder.
I feel like it was a lot harder to come back.
Like now, you see comebacks a lot of the fourth quarters,
like the witching Hour at Scott Hanson calls it, and
I think it's almost like a lack of a run
game that we see now, Like I feel like coming
back in ninete was just so much harder than mounting
a comeback now because a lot of teams don't have

(38:00):
the running game to kill the clock the way the
teams did back then. That's to me, that's the best
football come back in my opinion. Well, to me that
is too And there's been a lot of comebacks, you know,
the Brady and the Patriots winning and into Super Bowl
obviously was a bigger game, but you've got two or
three games like that a year. It may not may

(38:22):
not be the thirty game, but there's a point in
the game where that always happens, and there's always teams
going on. Oh, all you need is one play to
get the ball rolling and you're you lost the game
because of whatever reason. So um and offenses are geared
to do that, to have comebacks like that because of

(38:44):
spreading guys out, making mismatches all that kind of stuff. Um.
Back in it was hard to get mismatches. Now you
film and everything like this, you can you can pinpoint
it and you can say, all right, we have to
attack that. And if we can't attack that in the
way we need to, then we have to go somewhere
else to attack this to soften that up. So yeah, Andreas,

(39:08):
we're looking at this current NFL season and how the
a f C specifically is shaping up. Two of the
better games on the bill schedule has been the four
point win over Kansas City and the three point win
over Baltimore. Who do you feel like, not just those
two teams, but who do you feel like is the
biggest threat to the Bills this season in the a a
f C. Obviously the Chiefs, I mean, the Chiefs aren't
going on as long as they've got Pat Mahomes back

(39:29):
there and Travis and a great coach, and Andy Reid
who's coach in Super Bowls and one one. Um, the
Chiefs are always gonna be there. Um, the Ravens are
always going to be that team because of Lamar. You
just don't know. They have a pretty good deference, but
Lamar kind of puts them over the top. The Bengals.
Who knows about the Bengals. The Bengals, you know it

(39:50):
played well this past weekend. Um scored a lot of points.
They're they're kind of finding their stride a little bit. Um.
Everybody thinks the Bengals were a fluke from last year.
You know where the Bengals should have Bengals even been
in the Super Bowl. Last year they beat the Chiefs
to get to the Super Bowl, So yes, they should
have been there. But the a f C this year
is is the Bills in the beginning where the team. Okay,

(40:11):
the Bills are gonna win it. They're going through the
super Bowl. They're gonna win it. Back that up, We
don't we don't know yet. There's a lot of season left. Um,
they got some tough teams coming up. Um, they got
the Packers this Sunday. Uh, Sunday night. The Packers need
to win really bad. And if you heard what Aaron
Rodgers said, Oh yeah, we just got the Bills where

(40:31):
we need them right now. Well you gottam in an
Orchard Park and you gotta you got a hot team
right now. But this can make the season for the Packers.
At three and three, the Packers are looking right now
of a spark to get there, you know, get the
ball rolling for them. And it could be a trap
game for Buffalo coming off a bye week. It's a

(40:52):
trap game. So the Bill's gotta you know, they have
to just take care of business. No matter what I
was gonna say, I was on the sideline for Bills
Kansas City AFC champion or the playoff game last year
that was to be one of the best NFL games
of all time. I think a lot of NFL lums
would have other words to say about that. About that, Yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say, it's a pretty good playoff game

(41:13):
that we were talking about earlier. Um, it seems like
this is such a clear cut path that this is
our uh, this is going to be the game in
the playoff again that we're all talking about. And I'm
just curious if you think, as we're approaching trade deadline,
if there's any weakness, any vulnerability that the Bills have
that you think they should try to fill up the
trade deadline to get ready. Well, maybe another meeting. That's

(41:34):
a good question to you know, Christian McCaffrey's gone, so
he's in San Francisco now. So they were the Bills
were always talking about getting a running back, whether it's
before the trade dayline, deadline, after in the draft, whatever. Um,
whether or not, that's the way the team is thinking now,
you know who knows what they're thinking. Um. I think
Devin Sang Singletary has done a great job. Um, he's

(41:58):
he's played played, He played played pretty well last year
in the playoff game and he kind of stepped it
up a little bit in the playoffs. He's still that guy.
I mean, he's had a pretty good year. He's a
very solid year. If anything would be Zack Moss, then
you know, trying to get rid of him. I mean,
Dalvin Cook's brother James Cook has played well. So if

(42:19):
anything that the Bills would go for would be a
running back, maybe not now but towards the end of
the season. But they have to do it now. If
they're gonna do it because of the trade deadline, they'd
have to do it now, so um. And otherwise they
they're they're pretty solid. Um when at every position. Um,
they've been injured in the defensive backfield with with Micah

(42:40):
Micah Hyde being out, but let's figure they weren't supposed
to beat Baltimore. They probably weren't supposed to beat Kansas
City with backups back there. But um, that's that's just
a lot of credit to uh Tan McDermott in their
and their staff keeping those guys right. I'm with you
on the trap game. I'm worried because we found this
out earlier in the show and we were looking at

(43:01):
the lines of the first time in Aaron Rodgers career.
He's a ten point or more underdog in any game
that ever played in. So right in itself, I just
implore the Bills if you're listening time time. Yeah, Packers
in the NFC usually are one of those teams you
could count on to be there. Obviously they're struggling. The
Eagles have sort of taken that place on the mantel.

(43:23):
But when you look at the NFC, and like I said,
I'm a Giants fan. I'm hyped with the six and one,
but I'm still very cautious because they're playing over their
heads a little bit. I don't you know what. I
don't think they're playing over their heads. I really think
they needed back to jump start dead team. And you
can have a great running game and a kind of
ben but don't break quarterback, you know. I mean they've

(43:45):
been talking about the quarterback in New York for how
long since he's been drafted. It has been like we
have to see something. I mean, who was a quarterback
before Daniel Jones. Well it was Eli, and then they
benched Eli for the one Geno Smith game and never
gave Geno Smith a shot. And now we see what
Geno Smith was playing some great football in in Seattle

(44:06):
right now. And they they got a running game that
kids that a kid had had a great game against
the Chargers on Sunday. Don't sleep on the Seahawks. They
got a good coach, the defense is pretty good. I mean,
you can't Gino is playing. Is he playing over his head?
I don't know. I just think he's been a veteran
that scene a lot, and he's he knows what he

(44:27):
brings to a football team. So you know, big, big,
big shout out to Geno. Man, I'm glad he's playing well. Well,
you mentioned coaching and I have to thank all the
Bills for allowing our Giants to talk to Brian Dable
And now did you have any interactions with Brian Dable
is like my coach crush. I'm obsessed with that guy.
He wears Jordan Threes the fiery He's a fiery guy.

(44:50):
I had a chance to talk to him over the
years in Buffalo and he'd always just say, yeah, you're like, hey,
you guys are He had kind of like one word
answers all the time, and I'm sure here, I'm sure
he does that with his team and as a head coach,
he probably doesn't have any answer. It just goes okay um.
But you know what a great offensive mind and he

(45:12):
really did a lot for Josh Allen for three years
there in in Buffalo, and I'm sure that's why the
Giants hired him as a head coach. That helped this
quarterback in Daniel Jones and well else they got there.
So but Tae Kwon there is kind of the he's
kind of the X factor him being back um is

(45:33):
a big, big plus for that offense in there in
New York. He speaking of decision makers in the NFL,
the GM Brandon Bean in his first year with Buffalo
and McDermott, they make the playoffs after seventeen years, which
is the last time you were there. They have the
seventeen year playoff dro out. Obviously we don't have to
tell you that. I'm reminding our listeners, But how do
you explain how hard that is to climb out of that? Like,

(45:54):
who really deserves the credit? Is it just Brandon Bean?
Are the people behind the scenes maybe we don't know
about I think it's everybody. I think it's all the
way from the top, you know, top to the bottom.
You know, building a football team isn't just you can't just,
you know, go to your notebook pad and just start
writing names down. You gotta you gotta do your research.
And it seems like a lot of head coach you
used to be offensive coordinators, they used to be defensive coordinators,

(46:17):
so they have the mindset. And then some coaches were
coordinators that aren't really don't turn out to be good
head coaches. And why is that? You don't know? You
do know, but you don't a lot of these guys
become head coaches and they just kind of there's a
lot going on. You know. As as a head coach,
you have to be even more in tune to what

(46:39):
the organization is about. But that's really what the thing
is about it. Then hiring a head coach, you gotta
hire the right guy that that really is good with
the players, knows what he's doing, knows how to interact
with his offensive coordinator, his defensive coordinator, special teams guy
that's a complete football team. When a guy can do that,

(47:01):
the head coach can do that. So you're in Canton.
As we've seen lately too, it's not easy for wide
receivers to get in. But I always want to ask
someone who has the Hall of Fame jackets, you'll ever
bust that thing out right? Like, do you ever like
you want to throw this on? What do you ever
wear that? I'm I'd be lying to you if I
told you I did. No, you know what I don't.

(47:24):
I mean Ottawa right now, I'm actually So we do
things together sometimes and sometimes the people that we do
things for and do speeches and all that, and a
lot of things you know, my my foundation, we do
a lot of stuff with Boys and Girls Club. That's
my that's my foundation really, that's what we do with
Boys and Girls Club kids. And I talked to different

(47:44):
people and if they want me to wear the jacket,
I wear it. I haven't pulled up to a tea
box yet and got ready to tee off and had
my jacket on and asked whoever I was playing with
the hold my jacket for me before tef haven't done
that yet, but I might do it. You should. Honestly.
I play a lot of golf, I play in a
lot of those charity but I feel like I've seen

(48:05):
you either at like the Wallberg or the Jalen Rose
that I would have totally held your Hall of Fame
jacket like very bag. I said I was gonna do that.
I haven't done it yet, but I have done it
and been the different speeches that I've given and they
have asked me to wear my jacket and I have
done that. So it's a pretty good centerpiece, a pretty

(48:26):
good conversational piece. When you're with Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas,
you know, is it is? Do you ever talk about
when you guys are playing or is it all just
like how's your family or do you tell like just
three friends get together and you know, seeing each other
and just a good question. It's great to see those
guys because you know, I live on the West coast.

(48:47):
Thurman lives in Buffalo. Bruce brustles and Virginia, so I
don't get to see those guys as much as I
used to. So we laugh and we we joke and
it's like we're in the locker room again, because that's
a big you know, that's the best time. The camaraderie.
There was something I missed I always will miss. But
it's good. Dude. We talk about a family, how your
kids doing. I mean I saw their kids grow up.

(49:08):
They saw my kids grow up. So that's really what
we're all about, you know, family and knowing how each
other is doing and how's our health and all that.
So it's, uh, it's great to see them. And we
talked about the team. Now you know, I was at
two games. I was at the Tennessee game, was at
the Pittsburgh game. I was in l A for the opener.
So obviously we are very very intune of what's going

(49:31):
on with this team. And Bruce has been up in
Buffalo and has talked to Brand Brandon has talked to
Sean McDermott. So anytime I try to get to when
I'm in Buffalo, I try to see the head coach
and you know, see some of the players. So it's
it's a fun times. I imagine guys who played in
your time watched the wide receiver market this summer with

(49:52):
wide eyes d Hunte Adams setting that all on fire
record deals Tyreek Kill followed soon after. What do you
guys think when you see what these guys are getting? Now?
You know what, man, you know what it it is.
Money comes and goes. But I think what we had championships,

(50:16):
we have a I have a Hall of Fame jacket.
I would trade that money money for money. I mean, yeah,
that's all good and well, but I just think that
that comes and goes. And I would just because there's
a lot of guys that play in this league ten
years and don't get to a playoff game. That's just
the fact. And then there's a lot I played in

(50:37):
twenty two playoff games, so I played a season and
a half of playoff games almost and some of these
guys just want to get to Super Bowl and want
to see what that feels like. I want to see
what they want to feel like. What is the playoff game? Like?
There's some guys that played ten years played in one
playoff game. So that's what you played the game for.
You know, if you're playing the game for money and

(50:58):
that's your main focus, um that that's really that's part
of it. But when you get with the guys, you
don't talk, you know, you don't talk with some of
the guys about hey man, let me see your check,
Let me see your check. You can talk about, hey,
who were we playing this week? And how are we
gonna win this game? That's it. Well, I gotta tell
you nothing but respect as a Giants fan when I

(51:19):
was a kid, that I always look at it like that.
I feel like this is the best complement I can
give you. The guys I was most afraid of what
when they were coming to town to play? Were you?
Randy Moss and Chris Carter? Those are the three names
if you were asked me at like fifteen years old old,
what receivers? What receivers scare you the most? As a fan,

(51:41):
I'm like, I don't want andre reading the game. I
don't want Chris Carter and I don't want Randy. Those
are three I don't want them in the game. They terrified.
I knew, I saw you. I knew I saw you
in the stands and you were you were Yeah, you
were terrified. But we we can't thank you enough, appreciate,
thank you enough for coming on. Have a great time. Well,
I finally got the I got it right. And sometimes

(52:02):
it's been better late than never. You never know, but
it's always good good. Thanks for having me, and it's
always good to talk with you guys. And hopefully next time,
you know I have all this internet stuff. Well we're hoping,
since you know we're expecting the deep run by the Bills,
maybe you'd come back on around playoff time. I'm already
in Thank you, Jack. If you ever see me on

(52:23):
the driving range, hand me whatever you want, I'll walk
around with it on a hanger. I'll make sure it's
I will dry clean it whatever you need. That would
be a thrill. I got you, I got you. Yeah.
Well you know what our our little thing we're doing tonight.
I could have swore these we're up here in Ottawa,
that they would ask us to bring our jackets, but
they didn't, so uh yeah, but I got my ring,

(52:45):
I got my Hall of Fame. So we can't thank
you enough. Thank you, and uh yeah, go bills for
the rest of the year. Be fun. It'll be fun.
Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Yeah. So, Jerry, where

(53:08):
I'm at right now and entourage is it's getting really good.
Median is about to come out, and I think you
guys are going to can and all that, and so
I don't know if you actually make it to the
cann Film Festival. I really hope you do so that
I can ask you about that trip. But I put
this on my Instagram story. I have texted you about it.
This was as excited of a celebrity guest as I've

(53:31):
seen on the show. Lisa Arenna. You know, I'm a
big Housewives fan. I love Real Housewives and Lisa Wrenna
obviously on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She's currently in
a lot of hot water. I will tell you that
as well, But you've got to tell me what she
was like on set and her character, which is so funny.
And then the plot twist that you end up hooking
up with Lisa Arena so a couple of things with that.

(53:54):
You know, you know, you get that script before those
parts are cast, right, so you're reading this stuff, you
have no idea who these two women are going to
be in the episode, and then you hear it's like, oh,
it's Lisa Arenna and it's Colleen Camp who was one
of my favorite actors. She's one of my favorite all
time movies. She was in the movie Clue back in
the day. She goes back to like apocalypse now, like unbelievable.

(54:16):
So then you you hear it's them, and it's like, oh, well,
I don't want to be you know, in the episode.
My character is like being a little bit of a
ball breaker. I'm like, I don't want to be like
mean to them. And then they come out that first scene,
I think Lisa Arenna yells out like get out here,
you what, like curses out Colleen character. Yeah, it's like, okay,
they came to play. I don't even think that was
in the script, so it was. It was just hilarious.

(54:37):
It was one of those episodes where you read it
and you're like, anyone's gonna find this funny because we
think it's funny, And yeah, that's one that that's an
episode that goes along Lisa Arenna Colline Camp. They were great,
they were hilarious, happy to be there, totally in on
the joke and yeah, big plot twist uh in a
very small jacuzy at the end. If you really looked
at Jacuz, it's like really really tiny for no reason

(54:58):
at all. Yes, I guess that's if you think about
if you keep track of the women that Turtles slept with,
I think Lisa is like the first one you actually
confirmed that you might have slept with. Well, what about
the prostitute horehouse episode? Oh well you got me there,
you got me there? Okay, you got me there. It's
fresh in your mind. The thing the things that come

(55:20):
out of my mouth on this podcast. Now that the
entrege section is a part of the show, what do
I have to look forward coming up? Like what what
other like big guests come on the show? You know,
Okay you mentioned can and do we get there or not?
All I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a cameo.
I'm not gonna tell you what happens and talk about
someone in hot water. You're approaching the Kanye West episode. Wow,

(55:44):
Kanye makes a guest, appears is a long time agoes.
It's back in two thousand seven, fresh off his song
The Good Life was about to come out. So that
song is heavily it kind of got released on Entourage.
You're coming up on that episode, the Kanye episode. Oh geez,
so this was like he's not talked about very much
like Pink Polo Kanye exactly, exactly. Yeah, So you're coming

(56:08):
up on that and the I have some fun stuff
about the can stuff when you get there. Okay, I'm
gonna go ahead and assume that you guys make it.
Um No, I'm pretty good right now. You keep telling
me that there may be a drop off, and I'm
not sensing any of that yet. I'm not saying like
drop off like oh my god, the show is so bad.
It's just like I just think that when you get

(56:29):
to a certain point, you know, with these characters, you know,
we did a hundred episodes almost you do. I want
to see you run out of stuff to do. But
you see the Vince path, right, it's like kind of
knock them down, you build them up, you know, like
how many times can you do that? So when you
get there, I'm here for it, but I do think
it takes a turn. I don't want to say for
the worst, but just like you know, you feel it, like, man,

(56:51):
we've done a lot with these guys. Yeah, by the way,
Lisa Arena, I gotta give that lady props. I mean
what that was? Oh seven, And she was supposed to
be kind of an old cougar and right now she's
still like top of her game. And man, that body
is no joke. Whatever she's doing is looking good. It
looks like she's like running the sand dunes like Russell

(57:11):
Westbrook in the offseason. Oh my god. Well we'll get
to more next week. All right, it's time for one
of my favorite parts of the show. We gotta get
some Week eight wagering in, and of course not doing

(57:33):
that alone. We're joined by bet MGM betting analyst, our
odds on favorite, Peter Andrew. How you do with Peter,
I'm doing good. I completely understand you're gonna be torn
a little this week. So we're gonna work around that
Giant Seahawks game because I know that's gonna be a
struggle for you on some day. Yeah, it's like it's
it's like it's it's when Zack and Slater we're fighting

(57:53):
over Kelly. It's like someone's gotta lose this. I can't
handle it. Pete, not a bad week last week. You're
barely missing on these these single game parlays. Man, it's crazy.
You have the cards money line yet. Kamara anytime t D,
Kamara twenty receiving yards, Hopkins anytime t D. But anyway,
I think you only lost four units or two units
something like that. You had the Titans on the wind,

(58:15):
that was great. Yeah, I lost two units because of
someone's Green Bay Packers not able to squeak it out
against the Commanders. It's not my fault at this point.
It's not Olivia. It's definitely not your fault. We can
attest to that. I'm curious to see what you have
this week. This is a tough board this week. It's
an interesting board. There's a lot out there. So where
is Peter Andrew's mind at going into week eight? Yeah,

(58:37):
So we'll we'll start on Sunday here just for a second,
because I've done enough betting on the Packers. I think
it's time toime to start fading the Packers. So we'll
start there. You know, we did pretty well with the
teaser up until that point with the pack losing. I
had him plus one end of the Blues and by two,
which was unfortunate because at least if we would have
the one point, it would avoid it the leg out.

(58:58):
But we're gonna do another teaser this week. We're gonna
go against Packers, so I've teased down Buffalo to minus
four and a half to start it off. Eagles playing
against the Steelers. The Steelers are another one of those
teams that just all over the place quarterback obviously, situation
between Mitch and pick It, so teasing the Eagles down

(59:19):
to four and a half as well. So those are
two very well rested teams coming off buys, so UM
like both of them to win, probably win by that
ten point month, but we'll be careful there. And then
Jets plus seven and a half against New England. Jets
obviously have a very unfortunate injury with the breast all
out for the year, which was terrible, but I think

(59:40):
they can fill the void. I think you have Michael
Carter who's kind of going to be that checkdown running
back for them out of the backfield. He showed it
last week, had two catches I think for forty five yards,
so you can kind of do what Breece has been doing.
And then you bring in James Robinson first nothing, I
think six that could become a fifth. You just gotta
get him in that in that playbook. He's got a

(01:00:01):
couple more days than maybe McCaffrey did last week. But
I think they'll be okay. And speaking of quarterback controversies,
quarterbacks that just aren't living up to the bill. Matt Jones,
I know, still a little bit hurt, but him and
Zappy both looked horrendous. That was weird. That was weird.
That whole situation was weird and bizarre. Look like Bill

(01:00:23):
Belichick was trying to summon the ghosts of picking Tom
Brady over Drew bread Bled. So it's like, man, I
don't know that that was a whole That was a
weird game. And I don't want to take too much
credit away from the Bears, but the patch just look
really all over the place. So those three, so again
it's Jets plus seven and a half, Eagles minus four
and a half, Bills minus four and a half. That's

(01:00:44):
plus one forty So I have five units there, so
fifty to win seventy two and change, plus you're fifty
steak um, So that can put us in a really
nice position for next week on top of that home
game for the Jags in London. So Jags minus three
against another peculiar team in the Denver Broncos. A coument
score touchdown last week. That's a very nice word. There's

(01:01:05):
a few other words that This is a PG thirteen
is podcast, right, so we'll keep it at that sum Yeah,
but I don't know who the better option is at
quarterback right now for the Broncos. Could be Ripping, could
be Ross. They both look terrible, but you know, Jack's
had a bit of a tough fourth quarter against the Giants,
but they still are somewhat of a formidable team and

(01:01:28):
they are competing. And I think, actually in a weird way,
that James Robinson trade really helps Travis Aten, who's averaging
something like six seven yards to carry. So given him
RB one, no questions asked. He's great out of the backfield.
I think he's got something like almost seven all purpose
yards so far in the season. Get him as many
touches as you can. It'll help obviously Trevor Lawrence, so

(01:01:49):
minus three have them for four units at minus one
ten um. So I really like them going into into
London again. It's it's become a home game for them.
This is I think they're time plane in London, which
is crazy, and a Denver team who's coming across the
entire West coast into East coast, then into another time zone.
I think they could be all over the place. So

(01:02:11):
it's dangerous, dangerous. Nothing's more dangerous than keep an air
in those those subway sandwich commercials. This is crazy. They
talk about like blowing it up in Denver. You're like,
you hear like Judy's on the market, hammlers on them,
like you guys just traded and paid someone like four
billion dollars, You're gonna blow it up. I do like
the like I do like that. But man, the in Olivia,

(01:02:33):
you're there in London. I'm sorry that they're sending me
in a game. Yeah. And I have a friend who
works for the Broncos and we talked about it. I'm like,
I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, I think you should be good.
That's like, go get brunch or samething. I would do
any Sunday roast. Yeah, Sunday roast go, you know, put
the game on in the background, you go to Winston

(01:02:55):
Churchill's war room or something and I'm not watch Yeah,
well yeah, but the great thing just about a London
game is just the time. I just love having a
football game on in the middle of the day instead
of staying up so late to watch them. But yeah,
it's it's not one to write home about. It's one
of those days where you watch English Premier League football
instead of the NFL. That's fun. That is fun. O.

(01:03:16):
We're here. By the way you speak of that, if
the NFL had relegation, this would definitely be a relegation game.
If this would have heavy relegation implications, I feel like
I think this is the one situation where you say, Okay,
England got this right, there should be some relegation. Get
damn into the NFL, get the Broncos down into NC
double A football. I would be totally here for that.

(01:03:39):
Do you have what do you have a one game
parlay for us? Because you know how you are knocking
on the door, so we're gonna you have taken a
step We're taking a step back this week because we're
so damn close to this, so I'm gonna try to
put an easy one here, and let's get us back
to winning a couple of units, and then we'll get
a little crazy next week. So very easy. You have

(01:04:01):
an interesting game this week. Ravens at Bucks. Bucks are favorite,
and I believe right now wh're's somewhere around at one
point one and a half point spread. That line is
very very shady to me because of a similar to
the Packers, a Bucks team that just frankly does not
look good. We're gonna keep spread and points kind of
out of the equation here. I'm just gonna go player props.

(01:04:21):
So four things. We got this for one unit plus
three sixty So a ten dollar bet, when's your thirty
six bucks doll bet? Sixty bucks? So on and so forth.
Mark Andrews fifty plus receiving yards. He is the target
for Lamar Jackson. I think that's an easy one to hit.
Um Lamar Jackson two passing t ds. They are somewhere

(01:04:43):
around top six or seven in receiving efficiency, so I
think they should farewell against the weird Bucks team that
gave up three touchdowns to a Panther's team that has
no business being in that game. Uh, Lamar over forty
one and a half rushing yards. He's just scrambled enough, right,
I think you're just banking on a decent yard run

(01:05:03):
to get him over that chunk. And then Mike Evans
over fifty four and a half receiving yards. He is
obviously the target. He should have had that plus some
with that drop catch in for in the first quarter
against Anther's last week. Um, So they're gonna keep going
to him. He's just gotta make sure it comes down
with those balls. Um, but plus three sixty. Like I said,
we're trying to take a step back here, win an
easy one and then hopefully next week we get some

(01:05:25):
some craziness. Hey, earlier you said that my packers were
giving you a hard time. Obviously that was true. And
earlier in the show, Jerry, we said if we found
out the answer if Aaron Rodgers had ever been a
double digit underdog in his career, we would bring it
up in the Peter Andrew segment. Well, I found out
the answer. He has never been a double digit underdog

(01:05:45):
in his career. The closest he's ever gotten, which is
I think ten and a half he said, eleven and
a half earlier, it might have gone down a bit.
I bet MGM. He was an eight and a half
point underdog at Seattle in that's as close as it's
ever gotten. He started two thirteen regular season games, and
this is the first time in all of that time

(01:06:07):
double digit underdog. So I just had to finish with
that because I said at the end of the show,
if we had an answer, we would bring it to
the people. Do you know what that makes me think?
Peter and in Olivia, I think if if we know
any see, look, John Ewing has great stuff on Twitter. Peter,
you bet a little bit like me, but you're much
smarter with the numbers of it. But I I'm a writer,

(01:06:28):
I'm a I'm an actor. I like storylines. What better
storyline would it be? Aaron Rodgers ten and a half
point on the dog and he goes into Buffalo and
wins the game. Out Right, that's how crazy the NFL
has been. That's like a real thing that no one's
gonna bet on. And if anything is if the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers have taught us anything, it's that that could
absolutely happen, And that storyline wise, is probably what will happen,

(01:06:52):
because it will only confuse everybody that much more than
the Chiefs will become their favorites again in the a
f C. Do you think that players look at this
in any sport and take it personally? Did they see
ten point dog and say what the hell and get
more pissed off that Rogers needs more ammunition to be
angry right now? But I feel like he's going to
look at that and say this is bullshit. I think

(01:07:15):
it's definitely motivation. I mean, I look, what am I
What do I know about playing on a professional level? Uh?
I just know when you look at and when it's
like confirmed publicly, you guys are supposed to lose this
game confirmed, everyone believes that. Yeah, I think that's a
little like, well, who gives you we're supposed to lose anyway,
Let's just let it fly, let's go have fun. I
mean yeah, I mean plus three seventy five. I don't know,

(01:07:37):
they're the Packers are going in the money line. Partlay
for me. I can just tell you that right now.
It might only be for a dollar, but they're going
in a money line. I won't do much more than
it's happening, all right, Well, thanks for everything, Peter, Andrew.
That was a lot of fun. Good luck on your
bets this weekend. I just want to remind everyone to
subscribe to the Unleashed podcast YouTube page. You can see
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