The King of NFL Sportswriters with Peter King

On this episode of Unleashed, brought to you by BetMGM, Oliva and Jerry are joined by the man behind one of the most popular NFL column “Football Morning in America,” he’s an outstanding writer and NFL Insider, the ‘King’ of NFL Writers, Peter King! Now at NBC, you might have first read Peter during his 29 years at Sports Illustrated and writing the internet’s most popular NFL column “Monday Morning Quarterback,” not to mention he is also the author of 5 NFL books. He joins Olivia and Jerry to talk about all things football, the latest stories from around the NFL, and take a critical look at what's ahead in the upcoming playoffs. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
From the King of sports books comes the Key Sports
podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Ferrara and Olivia Arlan Decker. The stage is set. Time

(00:31):
to look ahead to the wild card rounds. Anything's possible
any given Sunday, that's the phrase, right, Well it's also
Saturday or Monday whenever. All these games are a huge
weekend of football ahead of us, and we're so glad
you're joining us to look at the action. Jerry Ferrara,
Welcome back and happy New Year. What was your New
Year's resolution? My New Year's resolution was to watch more

(00:54):
sports that if you could believe it. Okay, maybe not. Yeah,
I need I miss hockey and to get back into UFC.
But either way, the stage is set for football and
my bye week is over. I am ready to go.
The NFL season might have been one week too long
because I this week was a little bit painful watching
some of these games, but you said it perfectly. Let's

(01:14):
go real quick. Do you have a hockey team? I do.
I'm a die hard Ranger fan, loved hockey, but they
did hurt my feelings in when they had had the
player lockout. It was the year after the Rangers won
the Cup for the first time in fifty years, and
they had an older team, so thirteen year old me
didn't understand why they locked the players out. Let's go
love hockey. Yeah, tough to explain that one to a

(01:35):
thirteen year old, you know, Jerry, I'm hurting. I am
really hurting because I'm oh for three on college football
playoff games. Betting wise, I had Michigan covering they obviously
lost a TCU Georgia covering against Ohio State. They only
won by one on New Year's Eve. I think that
was a two and a half point spread, and I
had TCU covering in the National Championship thirteen and a

(01:57):
half is what I got it at. You were crush
them sixty five to seven. So I don't know if
it's a resolution, But like any degenerate gambler, I can't
decide if I keep trying to come back or if
I cut my losses. And maybe I don't know. I'm
telling you this, I'm not gambling on the wild card

(02:18):
round because the weirdest things happen I come back at all,
it's gonna be like I'm taking really safe bets. I'm
doing teasers like you, I don't know what what do
you think I should do? Should I wait till like
the divisional round? Okay, it sounds like first of all
to you. We definitely need to talk to Peter Andrew
on the show later because he knows what it's like
to kind of be on a little bit of a

(02:39):
down streak. But he brought it back. He's really recovered.
Can I just add to that Peter andrews to blame.
We did this together as a team, you know. He
he wasn't on the last couple episodes because we did
our New Year's show and college football last week. But
him and I have been texting and doing this on
our own, and in fact, he came to London with
his wife. He came to London for New Year's Eve.

(02:59):
So we spent Years Eve with bet MGM Betty Expert,
Peter Andrew and we had a ten offense. So we'll
talk with Pete at the end of the show. You know,
I did something for the first time ever. I'm gonna
implore you to maybe not skip the wild card round
only because there is, in my opinion, there's some opportunity
like this might be your last chance to bet against.

(03:19):
Skyler Thompson is us name whoever the Dolphins are trying
out there. This might be your last chance to bet
against Tom Brady in the Bucks, although I don't know
if you'd want to do that. So I already I
did something for the first time ever. I have never
placed playoff bet as early as I have. I saw
the lines. What was it was? Taking this on the Tuesday?
I saw them, I want to say, yesterday morning, and

(03:41):
the teaser, the three team ten point teaser was screaming
at me. I think it was Niners. So you get
them down to like, uh, I think minus one and
a half Giants, I think you kind of pushed them
upward to like fourteen and a half, and um, I'm
forgetting the third team, which was another there's the Bills knocking. Basically,
it's like Bills to win, Niners to win, Giants to

(04:03):
cover a fourteen and a half. And I did it
on a Monday. Yeah, the spread too for Bills in Miami.
That's gonna be torture. I mean already, the Dolphins cannot
play up there, they can't play where it's cold. And then,
like he said, Skyler Thompson rolling out at quarterback and
even the to a conversation I think is a good
one to have, and maybe we wait till next week.

(04:23):
But if you're the Dolphins franchise, what do you do
with two? I'm moving forward because of course he wanted
some big games, he got the ball rolling everything. But
I wouldn't say he's like a lock for a big
extension or anything. No way. Well, first and foremost, you know,
who knows always three concussions to three and two and
a half months, Like there's just such a big health

(04:43):
concern and in college, big injuries in college. I mean, yeah,
Like I'm not going to say I know anything about concussions,
and I know I'm sure like whoever's handling him is no,
you know, they'll give the right information, but like I don't.
Is it out of the question that he even plays again? Much?
I his career is over because he can't play. But
that's a lot of concussions in a short amount of

(05:04):
time bills right now or minus ten and a half. Oh,
that's bigger than I thought. So that's what I met
with the ten point tees or so. But you could
lock them. It's kind of probably it's gonna be a bigger,
so you I locked them in with my ten point
teas are basically to win. Yeah, it's basically builds to
win because the point five doesn't matter because there's no ties.
So but I think that might go as high as

(05:25):
I don't know, how does it get to thirteen? It
might get the thirteen. You know what I might do.
I might wait till we get to Phoenix for the
Super Bowl and we're gonna be in the bed MGM
like sports book, which is, oh my gosh, the pictures
of this place. It looks immaculate. It's mountains in the background,
the stadium right in the background. So you and I
have a really fun super Bowl trip just in a

(05:46):
couple of weeks. I can't wait. So I might wait
till we're actually there in the sports book and maybe
just do a ton of super Bowl props. Okay, outlook,
I'm with you. I might bring up I might bring
a sleeping bag and camp out on the bet MGM
set like sports But I just might camp out there.
I think That's what I'm gonna do. Plus, it's gonna
be nice weather, so aren't you looking forward to that?

(06:07):
That's gonna be a lot of fun. Well, Coming up
in this show, we have a great guest joining us.
It's the man behind one of the most popular NFL columns,
Football Morning in America f M I A an outstanding
writer and NFL insider, Peter King will be joining us.
He's he's like gold standard in sports journalism. He's at
NBC now, but you might have first read Peter during

(06:29):
his twenty nine years at Sports Illustrated, writing the internet's
most popular NFL column, Monday Morning Quarterback. Also the author
of five books in his spare time. So he's been
at Sports Illustrated as long as I've been alive. So
that makes me feel very weird about his make you
feel young. He's been there a long time. He's the best.
So yeah, we have tons to talk with Peter about

(06:51):
about Week eighteen and looking ahead to wild Card round
and just overall big stories. He's a big story kind
of guy with incredible context in this league. I want
to pick his brain to about if we have time,
I hope we do just about the quarterback situation. I
think this is setting up to be the closest thing
to the NFL has had to like an NBA off

(07:13):
season in the sense of what veteran quarterbacks are going
to be bounced around. We know the draft and what
can't wait to talk about the Texans situation. And but
we know the draft, but there's gonna be at least
three quarterbacks that probably go rather early. So I just
think it's gonna be a crazy year for quarterbacks. You know,
cars out there floating around. Garoppolo may come back, that
just might be moving. What are the Jets gonna do?

(07:34):
Goff sitting there in Detroit? So I really want to
talk to Peter about quarterbacks going forward. Yeah, you're right.
Just there's like big names and new names that all
can be shuffled around. It's really exciting, especially I don't
want to look too far ahead to the draft, but
I mean week eighteen, it's hard not to talk about
draft capital. So you're right in this season really did
come down to the final game. So before we talk

(07:55):
about playoffs, Jerry, are there any bets that you want
to brag about or admit that you had really wrong?
I went first when I haven't talked to you about
two weeks, so I'm curious if there's anything I've missed,
you know, as far as like really wrong, I've been
pretty solid. Like I said, the teasers have held up
my parlays. I'm like the king of three out of
four or four out of five. I really should just

(08:16):
be betting these games straight up and not parlaying them
because I keep winning three out of four, four out
of five. So I could have been making money this
whole time, but I just wanted But you know, my
parlays are more long shoddy. What I did, really I
enjoyed this week was I really bet the scenarios and
it ended up being okay. But I bet like the
Pittsburgh making the playoffs scenario, meaning I bet the Steelers.
I had to sprinkle a little on the Jets, but

(08:38):
I also bet the bill, so I did okay with that,
and I did bet. I just had a feeling the
Rams were gonna beat the Seahawks. I really did, and
man did they scare the heck out of a lot
of people. And I'm not gonna lie, and this is
probably painful for you all over the lot, I was all,
I've rode the Lions wind streak this entire time, and
I'm proud to say it. Yeah. Sorry, we'll get to

(08:59):
that one. That was brutal. And again I always talked
about this because we're in London. When that game got
slated to the Sunday night game I can't watch, and
and the Georgia National Championship game, my alma mater, I
have to wake up to that news. So I got
to see how horribly I missed on my bet, but
then also that I missed this complete butchering job by

(09:21):
my Georgia Bulldogs, which would have been really fun to
watch in person, and all the theatrics of that's in
Bennett's last game and all this. But that's the one
thing I hate about living overseas is I missed these
night games and then it's horrible when you have lost
money on them. But as we do, look now at
the playoffs, so Chiefs are the number one seed in
the a f C Eagles number one seed in the NFC.
Do either one of those surprise you, No, not at all.

(09:43):
Obviously the Eagles scared everyone for a minute, but that
just you know, you see, really, it's how the value
j with the with the value Jalen her attack Gardener
Minshew is like a trendy name. We all love them.
Great couple, right, but you know, day and day I
think now that even though the and the Giants did
test them, even with all their backups. You know, the
Giants played them to the to the final whistle. But

(10:06):
I think they're going to be back on track. Their
biggest issue is getting healthy and whatever rust Hurts has
and the Chiefs. Not that the Chiefs don't surprise me
at all. I really do think when they lose, they
fall asleep at the wheel. That's how good they are.
They're board with being great. Yeah, they know though it
might be a crazy tough road for them. You know,

(10:27):
they might have to go through the Bengals and the
Bills and the Bills. Yeah, no, it's gonna be good.
AFC is gonna be really good. But they get a
rest up obviously, and then for the Eagles to rest up.
That's huge with Jalen Hurts injury. But I'm excited to
see if Kansas City can work up some more crazy
trick plays that look straight out of Ted Lasso or something.
I mean, that was pretty fun to watch. That's when
you know they're so much better than everyone else because

(10:50):
they actually had the balls to do that play. Of
course it was out of hand, but did you see
Patrick Mahomes after the game was like we were just
messing around and Coach Read said, like it, let's do it.
It's pretty insane that we're watching. You know. The only
real equivalent to me is like how a player or
a team has changed the game is like sort of
what like Steph Curry and the Warriors they with basketball

(11:11):
of how they were the first team to really win
by shooting with that much volume. Uh, you know, it
used to be a shooting team can't win. You have
to be able to go in the paint, you have
to have a low post presence. They change that. Mahomes
and the Chiefs have just changed everything offensively, and it
covers up a lot. You know, their biggest risk is
going to be can their defense hold up and they're
gonna there's two good quarterbacks who are waiting for them.

(11:32):
But hey, he covers up, and that offense covers up
so much right. Well, just by the way, as I
was looking back at last year seating, both conferences top
seeds were upset in the divisional rounds and both four
seats made it all the way to the Super Bowl.
Rams and Bengals. So the Ram season is obviously done,
like you mentioned, but their final game against Seattle proved
to be one of the best of Week eighteen. Seattle

(11:55):
takes them to overtime. With a little help from their
friends in Detroit, they make the playoffs. Do you know
Smith got a million dollar bonus? He had a great season?
What do you say mid season? He's like, they wrote
me off. I didn't. Right back, everyone was kind of
cheering for Gino. Great season. Let's and look, I think
we could say, I wonder what MGM want to Let's
see we could find the odds of what the two
four seeds would be this year. To Matt, I don't

(12:16):
think we're gonna get a Bucks Jags super Bowl, Florida
would go insane. I don't think we're gonna get that.
But yeah, for Gino, it's it's an incredible story. And
it hasn't been a roller coaster because that was his
high moment of the year and he was almost out
of the league almost. I mean, we didn't know if
we'd really ever see him as a starter again, and

(12:36):
then he definitely hit a low point. This year. It
got a little rough for the Seahawks. The defense got exposed,
the injury started hitting, and then they pulled it together.
That win against Detroit now is a defining win of
his career in a way, because that win against Detroit's
what basically locked up the playoffs for them, having the
tie break over them. Okay, you mentioned the Steelers, and
I want to talk about the Steelers and the Lions,

(12:57):
two teams that missed the playoffs but really hit a
stride at the end of the season. Looking at the Steelers,
they started three and seven, finished six and one. You
mentioned your kind of cheering form you can never count
out Mike Tomlin. And then the Lions. Oh, the Lions.
They started one in six, they finished eight and two,
and Dan Campbell at halftime being very honest, very transparent.

(13:18):
I love it. I love the passion saying we went
the Packers to miss the playoffs. It was awesome. I
don't know if I ever like I'm sorry the Seattle
in Miami, I feel like the rightful heirs of the
seventh seed more and the past, I'm sorry Packri. I
feel like it's the Lions and it's the Steelers. I
think the playoffs would be significantly better. And maybe this
will hold up to be incorrect, you know, maybe they'll

(13:40):
be a big upset. Maybe Miami will show up. Maybe
Seattle will show up. I don't see it. I just
would have loved to watch Lions Niners. I think that
game would have been awesome. Obviously San Francisco would have prevailed,
but I think it would have been a much better game.
And yeah, I would have definitely love to see Steelers Bills,
but it shook out how it shook out. They both
teams came on too late. But I want to talk

(14:02):
to Peter King specifically about Goff and that situation in Detroit,
because I think that when I was talking about quarterbacks
earlier and how it's going to be an interesting offseason,
I think Golf is on a big part of the
interest and what they do with him and how they
worked out out, I think he's earned himself that job.
I don't think they should draft a quarterback, right. We've

(14:23):
talked about it on the show, and I'm with you.
I think, especially watching how we finished with fifteen touchdowns
and zero interceptions, I think Lions have to excentiment I
like it. You gotta stop getting in Twitter wars over this, though, Jerry.
You gotta know your audience. I don't know, Yes, I do,
I know my audience. I told you. I don't really
participate in Twitter that much. But and maybe I'm part
of the problem because I'm sure there's someone is saying

(14:44):
that about me, like this Ferrari guy. I won't get
off this point, but just acknowledge when what you're saying,
you know, when the narrative change. Stop trying to fit
all the things into your narrative that's now changing, you know, like, yeah,
the strategy of a rookie quarterback contract. It's a great
way to build a team. Of course, duh when you
hit on the homes or Joshua Allen or Jalen Hurts. Sure,

(15:07):
but we've seen the opposite of that when it's no
offense Zach Wilson or you know, josh Rosen and you
wasted the high first round draft picks. So I think
the lines are close. I think they're close, and that
division is shaking up. Good for them. And that's why
we love the NFL, right like in the NBA. I
don't think you'd ever see that this. You know, we

(15:27):
got nothing to play for, but we have a ton
of pride. We want to finish with a winning record,
which is very important. God, that's why you gotta love
the final day of the NFL season. It was it
was fantastic, but another season ender and Lambeau. This is
three straight seasons now that Aaron Rodgers has lost the
final season, the final game of the season in Lambeau,
which is just unacceptable. And you know, after the game,

(15:50):
Aaron Rodgers didn't want to do a jersey swap, that
whole thing. He walked off with his arm around Randall
Cobb as old, buddy, you know what when talking about
the Packers, and I mentioned, like, I bet the path
for that game to matter. I had the Lions getting
the points. I did initially earlier that they think, you know,
all right, Lions getting the points. I just liked that bet.
But then once the Seahawks one, to me, that did

(16:12):
make the I'm not saying I was that smart. I
know people have had this take. It did make the
Lions to me, much more of a threat to actually win.
I didn't think they would ever pack it in, for
lack of a better word, and say, yeah, let's roll over.
So that's when I took some Lions money line. Actually,
he didn't want to do a jersey swap. And they certainly,
let me say, they certainly filmed and shot that like

(16:34):
it was we were watching the end of a career.
I'm sorry, I they just shot it that way. Maybe
I don't know if Aaron Rodgers tipped his hand at all.
It's certainly they shot it in a way like you
as an audience sort saying, this is this guy's last game.
The jersey swap thing, I didn't not reading too much
into that, like just maybe he wants to keep his jersey.
I don't know, Like the first person who runs up

(16:55):
to you, you you have to be like, oh, okay, you
asked first. It's you know, it's an Aaron Rodgers jersey.
He could be his last game in Green Bay. But
it sounded dramatic the way he did it, and Aaron
doesn't say anything without thought, and the way that he
said no, I'm going to keep this one. That seemed tactical.
Everything about him seems tactical. Look, is there were a
world though, where I don't know. I think there's a

(17:16):
world where maybe the Packers say, yeah, let's let's make
something happen and let's move on from this. I don't
think it's all just his decision. I think the Packers
are finally at the place too, where they have to
think about their options going forward and how they can
make this team better. And he makes a giant sum
of money, which is good. He deserves it so but yeah,

(17:37):
that does kind of lead us, right and that we
would doing Audible of the Week. He walked off with
his arm around his good buddy Randall Cob. Who knows
maybe his Randall Cobb's last game and that's why he
was walking out like that. But this is what he
said after the game, and are Audible of the Week
going through your mind? Is you and Randall walk with
your arms around each other off the field. I just

(18:00):
love the man. I uh I always had a tight
friendship with him and just a lot of gratitude h
in the midst of disappointment. The best part about this
game is the relationships to come out of it, because

(18:21):
those lasted longer than the career, and I'm thankful for Randal.
Where do you stand on what you want to do
next year? I mean it's a little raw right now,
you know, it's just a little bit after the game.
So ah, I want to take the emotion out of
it and have the conversations and see where the organization's

(18:44):
at and see how I feel after some time has passed.
Is there any sort of time table. Is that there
like a date where you want to make your decision
by yeah, I mean, I'm not going to hold them hostage.
You know, I understand. You know, we're still in January
here marches for agency. So, UM, I just need some
time to, like I said, get the emotion out of

(19:08):
it and then figure out what's best. You know, you
want to go out winning super Bowl, but it's very
rare that that actually gets to happen. Um, I don't
want to, you know, lose your last game, uh and
miss out in the playoffs. But this is a great

(19:30):
profession and a really tough business and doesn't always end
with rainbows for everybody. Okay, enough of hearing from us.
Let's get to the King of NFL writers, Peter King.

(19:53):
Thanks so much for joining us again. Peter. How are you, Olivia? Jerry?
I'm doing great. How about you, guys? We're great. We're
we're kind of pulling our hair out trying to think
of all the playoff picture and all the scenarios and
what we're all going to do for the wild card weekend.
And that's why we've brought in the man who can
give us a little bit of clarity. But before we
get to all that, we got great news obviously this

(20:13):
last week on Tomorrow, Hamlin, and it led off your
column and was written so well. Of course, I'm curious
of all the stories that you've covered in your career,
none have been quite like this. So what is your
takeaway on everything, How the NFL handled it, the players,
the fans, a fundraising generosity, everything that encompassed the story,

(20:34):
you know, Olivia. The other day I was on the
phone with one of Damar Hamlin's best friends. It's a
guy he played high school football within Pittsburgh. His name
is Rodney Thomas. He's now a safety with the Indianapolis Colts.
And at the time I spoke to him, it was
still very touch and go with Tamar. Nobody was really

(20:56):
sure exactly how he was going to be, and I
think he was still in the medically induced comy, was
still heavily sedated. But there's a lot of optimism about it,
a lot of positive signs. And so I said to
Rodney Thomas. We were talking about the fact that by

(21:16):
this time he had whatever six million dollars for a
toy fund for McKees Rocks Pennsylvania that originally he had
hoped to raise dollars and I said, do you know
that Tom Brady has donated ten thousand dollars to Damar
Hamblin's fund. And Rodney Thomas just said, wait until he

(21:41):
hears that. And you know, I think there is a
lot you know, I was at the game on Sunday
and there was an awful lot of there was an
awful lot of hope. And you know, as you guys know,
we live in a very divisive time in our country,
and at that time, one of the things that Sean

(22:03):
McDermott told me after the game is that I really
hope that a lot of people in our country, and
positions of power and leadership in our country, can see
what happens when everybody comes together and everybody is pulling
for each other. And I thought that was a really
good thing for him. He had brought it up at

(22:23):
his press conference, and so I interviewed him for Football
Night in America for NBC and I asked him about it,
and I found myself thinking that I think that's a
really important thing. I think that politically this is not
going to bring anybody together, but I do think in
a societal way, it could bring us closer together because

(22:46):
we realize what happens if the first emotion, the first
movement is going to be love and help and assistance,
and I really hope that there's some of that that
survives this period that kind of doubt it, but I
want to think positive. So those are a few thoughts

(23:08):
I had, plus the fact that I just think that
there are so many people who got some inspiration from
Damar Hamlin and having nothing to do with the fact
that it's probably a pretty good chance if he wants
to that he can play football again. But it was
it was different than that. Really, it's all about how

(23:29):
a lot of people came together in hope and feeling
a lot better about themselves. And I think sports too,
So I think there was a lot of positives that
came out of it. Yeah, As someone who tries to
not be on Twitter too much because we all know
what sometimes those roads could lead to, it was really

(23:51):
the first time in a long time, or the last
time I can remember where that next morning, when I
was kind of getting ready, it really was Twitter. That
was for the first time everyone agreeing and united on
something and wanting to help and do everything they can,
and everyone in agreement about how like no one should
play that game. So I'm with you. I did find
myself bigging that the next day. I hope this just

(24:12):
stays with us, so we don't move on so fast
as we all do with everything changing, at least with
the good parts, because I really did feel we were
all pretty united for the first time in a long
time on just him being well and getting better and
the job everyone did to save his life. Yeah. I
think the other part of this, too is that I
think we now have some realization that, you know. I

(24:34):
was talking to Klais Campbell of the Ravens the other day.
He's on the he's a big NFL p A guys,
so he's a big union guy, and he was talking
about how the union, and I applaud the union for this,
they have pushed very, very hard for significant medical advances
on the sidelines of games. And I was talking to

(24:55):
Tom Mayer, the medical director for the nfl PA, on SAT.
Today night. I was a hotel in Buffalo, and we
were talking a lot about this, and you know, I
don't know how many people realize all of the resources
that are available medically on the sidelines of NFL games,
to the point that if you're going to get very

(25:16):
very seriously injured, if you're going to be in a
life threatening situation, it sounds stupid, incredible, gratuitous to say,
but the best place to be is on a field
in an NFL stadium. And again, I know it sounds crazy,
but if you've got three e m t s, you've

(25:37):
got emergency medical technicians there, if you've got some great interness,
if you've got some of the best people in the
world at performing CPR, if you have actually, uh, someone
who is available to put a breathing tube down your

(25:58):
neck in a moment's note us, I know all of
that sounds a little bit graphic, but and this is
going to sound almost unfeeling, but it isn't. I think
the upset would be if DeMar Hamlin died because the
ability to keep someone alive who whose heart had stopped

(26:20):
but otherwise an incredibly healthy person. You know, Mike Ryan
whose NBC's medical analysts medicine sports medicine analyst. He told
me that in Florida, he lives down near Jacksonville, and
in Jacksonville this year there was a high school across
player who got hit in the chest with a ball

(26:44):
thrown at high speed and his heart stopped. And so
at that moment, if someone performed CPR and this player
was back on the field in five weeks playing lacrosse.
So and that is at a high school, the cross
game in Florida. So and I'm not trying to to

(27:08):
not say that what happened to Tamar Hamblin wasn't life
and death. It was. But the fact is, there's an
awful lot of stories right now about the ability to
bring people back like nothing ever happened. So, you know,
and we'll see what happens with tomorrow. I don't know
if he's going to play football again. I I don't

(27:30):
think there would be anything to stop him from doing so.
And I'm not trying to minimize what happened, but I
just believe the upset would have been if he if
he didn't make it. You went to the Bills Patriots game.
He mentioned after the game you got to interview nine
Hines after he returned the opening kickoff yards for a touchdown,

(27:50):
then again in the third quarter. He wrote about it
so beautifully. I would love if you could kind of
recap his relationship with themar and how that was so
poignant at such a time. You know, sometimes Olivia, you
go to these games and I mean, shoot, that was
like a conference championship game in the number of media,

(28:11):
how it was covered what happened. So my job always,
I feel I want to find out things that nobody
else knows. That's just my goal. It always has been.
And the one thing I found out here that was
really almost just touching is nai Heinz got traded to

(28:32):
the Buffalo Bills from Indianapolis at the trading deadline, which
was two months ago, two months and a week ago,
and he didn't know people in Buffalo, and so when
he reported to the Bills, you know, and just was
shaking hands with people, getting to know Sean McDermott and
every everybody. He was in the hot tub at the

(28:55):
Bills and this guy walks up to him and he goes, Hey,
I'm DeMar hamm and I'm a safety here. So I
wanted to say hi, and you know, welcome to the
team and all that stuff, and he said, so he
was one of the first guys to introduce himself. And
then every day he came up to me and he
said you're gonna break one. I can feel it, you

(29:17):
are going to break one. And they formed this little
thing where he would say to them every week they'd
be preparing for a game, they'd say, this is the week, bro,
this is it, this is it. And so I thought
it was really cool that the week before he got
hurt that DeMar Hamlin said to him they had this
little saying among them, among the two of them, hashtag

(29:40):
free hinds, which is, you know, they said it to
each other all the time, like you are going to
score a touchdown this week. So he said it to
him before the Cincinnati game. Hey, hashtag free hins. So
obviously he didn't say it to him last week, but
he told me that he's lined up to receive the kickoff,

(30:03):
and he was thinking basically of two things. One his buddy,
Damar Hamlin, and two, I got to do something. I
have to do something. I have to make something happen
to make sure that we honor Damar in an appropriate way.
And fourteen seconds later, he's got the most famous kick

(30:27):
returned for touchdown, maybe in NFL history, but certainly in
this season and certainly in Buffalo Bills history. I just
got goose bump. Sorry, just just hearing that because I'm
thinking about and seeing that moment of just how they reacted.
It really makes you think that you could a writer
couldn't write it better in a script to open the
game that way. And I encourage everyone to read that

(30:50):
piece if you haven't read it already. Um, And obviously
we're continued health and getting better for Damar Hamlin hopefully
and uh maybe we'll be talking about him playing again.
I'm gonna move to something that's I won't say it's
not as as you know, inspiring as that. But you know,
the Monday after the NFL season, right, that's always like
a day that, at least me as a fan, you

(31:11):
start to see what really happens with coaches. We already
saw what happened with Cliff Kingsbury, despite you know, signing
his extension just ten months ago. I always find that strange,
you know, you you extend someone and it doesn't even
last more than twelve calendar months. Well, Jerry, how about this.
He not only signed the head coach, he signed the
general manager. So I mean Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury

(31:36):
are both signed for for a full four more seasons.
So and look, there's no owner in the NFL who's
looking for coins and the couch cushions too to make
sure the business runs okay. But Michael Bidwill is not
independently wealthy. And the Arizona Cardinals are one of those teams.

(31:57):
It's a family run franchise, and so he's got to
pay off a couple of people, and who knows what
his deal is with them. And you know, if Cliff
Kingsbury gets a job somewhere, at least the money that
he gets in his new place will be used to,
you know, to take away some of the money the

(32:18):
Cardinals own him. But be that as it may look,
that was that was a bit of a lame brain
way to run your business last offseason. And look at,
you know, the guy who you really wanted. I'm not
even sure that. I'm not sure that Michael bidd Will
really believed in Kyler Murray, but in essence he had

(32:41):
to do something with him, especially after he does the
coach in general manager. I'm a little dubious about that franchise.
I mean, here, I'll tell you the amazing thing. How
about this, Just imagine this, Okay, exactly thirteen months ago,
the Arizona car Ardinals were ten and two when they

(33:03):
were the number one seed in the NFC. Wow. Since
that moment, they are five and eighteen. Mm hm. They've
got the worst record in the NFC since that moment.
And so you ask yourself after a little while, you

(33:25):
just ask yourself what happened, what happened exactly? And the
way they ended last year too, and Kyler Murray playing
such a lousy game in the playoff game against the Rams.
I don't know. I'm gonna segue to one thing. And
it's a point I made my column this week. If

(33:46):
you think about it, Okay, if you're the Baltimore Ravens
right now, you have to answer this question. Lamar Jackson
in each of the last two years has missed five
and three quarters games because of injury. He was hurt
in the first quarter of two games and then also

(34:06):
missed five. So Lamar Jackson has missed one third of
the season in each of the last two years. And
you have to ask yourself this question. This is the
guy who makes his business, you know, is is living
with his legs, you know, as well as his arm.
But he does an awful lot with his legs. Okay,

(34:29):
and yeah, and you really mean, do you want to
pay him forty five million a year for the next
five years? I don't. And if I were the Ravens,
quite honestly, if I were Eric Acosta the GM, I'd
franchise tag him and just say we hope that you
are a quarterback for the next ten years. We can't
do this, we can't sign you. And so now the

(34:51):
question is, is there a team out there, the New
York Jets, the Washington Commanders, the Houston Texans. Is there
a team out there that, if he gets franchised, would
pay him a boatload of money, let's say forty five

(35:12):
million a year, and would be willing to give up
to number one draft picks for him. That would be
one of the riskiest moves in years in the NFL.
But honestly, if I were the Ravens, that's probably what
I do. Going back to the Cliff Kings very part
of all this. Real quick, do you think the pipeline

(35:33):
of coaches from college that the NFL is drying up?
We saw Matt Rule was fired this season. Now, Cliff,
I mean, it seems like the game is not translating,
not that Cliff was very successful at the college level. Anyway,
He's got to say that. I'll give you my just
my gut feeling on this. Okay, if you look at
where college coaches have bombed out, you will see that

(35:58):
either A they have a very sketchy quarterback situation or
be their quarterback did not perform consistently very well. I
think Cliff Kingsbury had another problem, and that is communicating
with players and with his coaches. You know, the one
thing that I've heard about Kingsbury is that he's a very,

(36:22):
very poor communicator, and you just can't be that way
as a head coach in the NFL. And he had
the quarterback he wanted. And it is mind boggling to me,
mind boggling that in a span of twenty three games
that you can lose eighteen of them, most of which

(36:44):
Kyler Murray played. So I don't think it says that much.
I've read all these stories. Don't hire a college coach. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, you go back to Chip Kelly.
He didn't work. I get it, I know, but I
think a great coach is a great coach. And and look,

(37:06):
I and I don't mean this in a negative way either.
I'm not sure i'd hired Jim Harbaugh period because he's
sort of an imperious guy, and I'm not sure that,
especially when times get tough, tough, if they're really going
to enjoy here and to win one for the Gipper speech.

(37:28):
So I don't know about that, but I still think
Olivia a smart coach, is a smart coach. There is
something I would love your opinion on because this, you know,
I mentioned before everyone sort of agreeing on Twitter. This
is something that I've found myself like in some fun
little battles over and I'm I'm gonna agree with you
about the Lamar Jackson with the Jets. I'm a Giants

(37:49):
fan from New York, so a lot of my I
grew up a lot of Jacks fans. They always think
they're one piece of way from being really good. This year,
they actually might might have been true. They might have
been a decent quarter back away from being in the playoffs.
I look at that Lion situation. I've been saying for
a few weeks now. You know, I don't know if
you want to give golf an extend them forty million,
but to me, just as a fan, watching that team

(38:13):
plays hard for him. He has great chemistry with the receivers.
I don't know. Maybe st. Brown would have been a
good receiver no matter what. But it just seems to
be working. And they have such good draft picks, like
and some people on tours like they got a draft
a quarterback. To me, I think that they're a lot
closer than that and could build further. I guess if
you're if you were running Detroit or in Detroit, how

(38:34):
do you handle that golf situation? Now? Having the sixth
pick and I guess it's sixteen or seventeen overall, it
just thick that they're real close with those picks now. Absolutely, unequivocally,
I'm not drafting a quarterback makes no sense. Last nine
games of this season Detroit Lions seven and two, Jared
Goff fifteen touchdowns, zero interceptions. It's insanity to draft a quarterback.

(39:00):
What you do, I think with golf is you basically say, listen,
we want you. He's got two years left on his
contract that he signed with the Rams. Okay, he's been wildly,
vastly overpaid for the first whatever three years of it.
All right, so let's just see right now, let's just
see the first four years of it. But let's just see.

(39:24):
You know, his cap number in twenty three is I
think thirty points seven. His cap number in twenty four
is thirty one point seven. But just look at it
this way. Wait until next offseason when you have complete
knowledge of whether golf is your quarterback in the future,

(39:46):
and this year, continue to build an incredibly strong roster.
We're seeing it right now. You saw it with the
Jacksonville Jaguars. And on defense, you see the pieces in
place of a rising, growing team right now. You saw
Josh Allen wreck the game the other day. You know

(40:07):
the other Josh Allen, the defensive Josh d Allen. And
so just if I were Detroit, you've got two picks
in the top half of the round or or almost
I think that's our top eighteen or something. You've got
two picks. Just use that to continually build a great roster.
Brad Holmes the GM, he's a smart guy. I don't

(40:30):
think he's going to be tempted to take a quarterback
this offseason. Now, let's stick with NFC North quarterbacks for
a second, because maybe one that is a bit more controversial.
Aaron Rodgers again, that's my team. I would love to
see a good year from Aaron Rodgers. I don't want
him to stick around just to stick around. Now do
you think that the hype that he left week eighteen with,

(40:53):
and the postgame press conference and the keeping his jersey
all of it, do you think it's just to keep
us on our toes? And one do you think is
next for Aaron Rodgers? All I know is this, Olivia.
Aaron Rodgers loves taking a needle, and he loves to
take a needle and stick it in the collective ice
socket of the media as a whole. He loves that.

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And my first thought when ten minutes after the game,
we've learned two things, he told Jamal Williams, I'm not
giving you my jersey, but he put his arm around
Randall Cobb's shoulder walking off the field, nine thousand cameras

(41:41):
in front of him, snapping every picture, everybody doing video
of it. I just said, Aaron Rodgers, And look, I
might be wrong, because I don't know. It's just what
I thought. Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he knows what he's gonna do,
maybe doesn't know what he's going to do, But how

(42:02):
great is it for him to give off this aura
of I am walking off the field for the last time.
And then now, Olivia, you were about three years old
when this happened. But in two thousand eighty, in two

(42:23):
thousand eight, remember when Brett Farve in March basically retired
even though he really didn't want to. And then two
much I shouldn't say he didn't want to, he didn't
know if he wanted to, and then two months later
he comes back. And what I will never forget about

(42:46):
that never forget is how Farve just simply wasn't ready
to make a decision and they made him make one.
I don't think Brian Gudkins and Matt Lafleur are going
to make him do that. I think they'll say, we'd
like to know by pick a date June. That's when

(43:08):
we need to know. No, that's when we want to know.
And look, I might be wrong, but whatever he's going
to make next year would make fifty million. It's hard
for me to believe, especially with two young receivers who
I think he sees a bright future for both of them.

(43:29):
You know, he'll be able to come back and ride
out on his white horse if he just wants to
play one more year, but this just seems a weird
year for him to go out on him. I don't know, Olivia,
and I don't I know. I mean, I know Aaron
I talked to him, but I don't know him at all,
So it's just that's just my guess. I don't know

(43:50):
if anyone really knows him. He did say that the
money doesn't matter and he would walk away. I gotta
think with the Brett five story and the Aaron Rodgers story,
the one common denominator is they're the only NFL team
no owner, and maybe when there's not that one person
you report to, it gives that player all that much
more freedom when you're in this teeny tiny town and
you're basically the pope there. I mean, but you know what, hey, Olivia,

(44:12):
remember in two thousand eight, Ted Thompson was the potent
tape he was he was making those decisions. Mike McCarthy
was a young head coach at the time, and I
will never forget, Olivia. I sat in Brett Farve's house
in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Yeah, I did, on the Saturday night

(44:36):
before he ended up going back to Green Bay and
trying kind of in a nice way to force the issue.
And I remember on that Saturday night, his agent, Buzz
Cook was also in the house. It was him, Deanna,
his wife, and and Buzz Cook and me, And he
asked Buzz what he thought, and he goes, oh, they'll cave,

(44:59):
They'll I'll give in to you, because he Brett wanted
to be released and go play for the Vikings. And
and he said, Peter, what do you think? And I said, hey,
I don't know. He said, all I know is that
I was on the phone with Ted Thompson and McCarthy
the other day and I just want you to know

(45:20):
that if Ted Thompson releases you, you're gonna sign with Minnesota.
Ted Thompson will be hung in ashwabin On. I mean
he won't be able to show his face in this town.
I mean, I'm serious. And and I said you, if
I were you, I would say, Okay, which team would

(45:45):
I be okay playing for? I may not love it,
but which team would I be okay playing for? And
then the Jets are the Bucks and then really play
and try to stick it up their rear end. And
that's essentially what he ended up doing. He played one
year with the Jets, and then two with the Vikings
and for all those people. I remember at the time,
Oh my god, Farve will never be able to go

(46:06):
back in town because he was in the Purple and
all that stuff. I said, you know what, I remember
seeing Jerry Rice at the end going hat in hand,
going to try out for every team he could. Oh
my god, he's ruining his legacies. This, that and the
other thing. Jerry Rice walks on the field at a
forty Niners game now and people genuflect, they absolutely love him.

(46:31):
And it's the same thing with Five. I always knew,
and look this latest thing, who knows what will happen,
But I always knew that five would be able to
go back and people would love him because of what
he accomplished on the field. I know. We got to
get you going, Peter, and thank you so much for
a time. Last quick thing before you go. Is there
any team underdog going into this weekend that you see

(46:53):
has a chance to maybe pull an upset? A chance?
I'm not saying make a prediction, a chance the best Well,
the question is, I don't know what the and I
know I should know the odds being on this podcast,
but I don't know what they're like. Look, I don't.
I don't think that the Ravens, even with Lamar, who

(47:15):
certainly won't be I don't see the Ravens going into
Cincinnati and winning that game. I can definitely see Dallas
going in and winning in Tampa, but I think that's
really a coin flip because the Cowboys every other week
in the last month they have stunk it up. So
you tell me who's going to show up Monday night

(47:37):
in Tampa. I kind of like the Jaguars to beat
the Chargers, but is that really an upset? I don't know.
End the one team, even though it seems odd to
say this, Seattle knows the forty Niners so well, and
they've played them every ten minutes. It see, you're always

(48:00):
looking up, and it seems like once a month Seattle
and the Niners are playing, and they've got this history
and Pete Carroll knows that franchise. I don't think Seattle
is gonna win that game. But that is the game
of every game this weekend. That probably intrigues me the most.
And don't you find it weird, honestly, how the NFL

(48:25):
scheduled these games. It's the first game that Seahawks Niners
the first one up in Santa Clara, California. It'll be
on a muddy track probably with all the white rain
on the West Coast right now. And the forty Niners.
To me, I mean, if you ask me right now,
give me your power rankings. Top two teams in the
league to me are the forty Niners and the Bengals.

(48:47):
And the forty Niners are a two seed and they've
got the They've got the first game of the weekend
at four thirty on Saturday afternoon. This is the game
that's regularly reserved for Jackson Bailey Houston, you know, I mean,
and it's the forty Niners. And I kept thinking to myself,

(49:10):
this is such a weird thing to me. And then
how about on Sunday the first game is the Bills.
You know, they're like the New America's team with Damar Hamlin.
And I just I don't know the scheduling this week.
And first of all, there's no game that is absolutely
must see. There just isn't. But I think the whole

(49:34):
thing is it's just, uh, it's gonna be an odd weekend.
Some will happen, two or three good things will happen
to make it fun. But it's just an odd collection
to me of six games where the only real million
people watching the game I think is Dallas and Tampa

(49:55):
because look, you know, if the Dallas Cowboys were on
TV painting a house, you to get a crowd, to
get an audience, and twenty million, so they're going to
get a huge number for that game. Plus it could
be Brady's last game. But even that, the Cowboys have
been crappy and the Bucks every other week just lay

(50:16):
a gigantic egg. I don't know. I mean, who knows.
It could be a fantastic game, but that's probably the
game of the weekend and we're gonna have to wait
a long time for it. Peter King, thank you so much.
We have taken up too much of your time. You
have stories galore, and we'd love to get you back
on here because we just barely scratched the surface anytime.

(50:36):
Olivia really appreciated. Good being on me to Jerry. Thank
you great, great having you. Peter, thank you again. Well,

(51:00):
I've been very busy doing my homework, Garry. I have
been binging Entourage. I finished season five finally and started
season six. I'm like really in the weeds. Like when
I think about the hours I've spent watching this show,
it has been such a treat. Like I've told you before,
I'm so late to the party. One thing that Hugh
told me was going to happen in season six is

(51:22):
all of a sudden, you start morphine into the Jerry
that looks more like I see now, Like you get
really skinny in episode one of season six. Yeah, that's
the thing with and that's how HBO kind of moved
back then. I think they still moved like that. Similarly,
there was always a pretty good break in between seasons, right,
sometimes upward of like eight months, depending on how long

(51:45):
things took or got pushed back. So think about what
you could do in eight minutes. So towards the end
of season five, I started to get all my little
fitness journey, and because I just turned thirty years old,
I wanted to just really start to feel better. And
then I had eight months off and didn't work a
ton in those eight months, and yeah, I lost like
forty five pounds. Forty five pounds, and is it going

(52:06):
to keep falling off? Every episode? I mean, by season seven,
they start making skinny jokes about me, Okay, so far
no one's addressed it, like it's not in the dialogue
at all. Yeah, it's not. Again, I think at this
point I think maybe you're early on season six, I
think I was maybe like twenty five down. So by
the end of season six, I think I'm I lose

(52:28):
like forty five and then coming back to season seven,
it was a clean sixty. Season seven, I think I
was or maybe it's eight. I don't even remember. I
was like at four pounds. A character on the show
I'm loving at this stage of the show is your mom.
And I'm curious how much of the hometown that you
guys go back to the neighborhood you guys are in

(52:48):
and your mom's Vince's mom and your mom who are
really great character is great color. I'm curious how similar
that is to where you actually grew up in the situation,
Like is that how your mom talks? So you know,
I remember back then the actress Camio Savola, who was amazing,
who played my mom. She did recently or maybe within
the last few years. I know she passed away unfortunately,

(53:10):
but she was like on Broadway. She was like a
real deal baller actress. I do remember my mom wanted
to play the part of my mom, and this was
like the joke. I didn't actually like she did an audition,
but I gave like I would protect, like we'd practice it.
And let's just say, I don't think I get my
acting ability from my mom. Let's just say that. So
my mom, if you ask her about that, she jokingly

(53:33):
doesn't think the performance is authentic at all and thinks
she would have been way better. Doug did a really
good job, Doug Ellen, capturing I grew up in Brooklyn,
but that part of Queen's where you know, it was
a real community, just walking each other's houses, and my
friend's parents were allowed to like discipline me if they
caught me acting up when I was a kid. Like
the whole neighborhood really kept an eye out on each other,

(53:54):
so very very close to what I grew up. Like now,
a part of this whole thing, when you guys go
back to New York in your home is a phone
sex scene. What your mom interrupts and yells. And I
was just thinking, my god, to uh to see that
written and read it in the table, read to then
rehearse it and do the scene and then have your

(54:15):
parents watch it. I mean, walk me through this, because
that's very awkward. I imagine listen. I think in total
with Entourage, I had like two or three sort of
either like sex scenes or just kind of like hook
up scenes at first. Of all the worst they are
the worst. I'm sorry. Whatever you think out there listening
like I must be. It is not cool. It's not fun.

(54:37):
It's not like it's stressful, and you just wanted to
be over quickly. And luckily for me, I that was
that was not something like you see the amount of
stuff Adrian would have to do played Vince versus me,
I didn't really have to worry, but of course you
started getting in more shaped and all of a sudden
you're a love interest and now you have to do
that stuff more. It always was rough watching all those

(54:59):
scenes at the premiere with our families. Fortunately, the one
you're talking about, the phone call one like, yeah, it
wasn't my favorite, but at least it was on the phone.
No one else was there. I didn't have to worry
about how my breath smells or anything like that, but terrified,
like if I never had to do one of those
scenes for the rest of my career. I would be like, great,
sign me up, and what do I have to do

(55:19):
to not do that again? When you get married, do
you and your spouse have rules about that? You know,
my wife isn't isn't actress as well, So I mean
there's no rules, like but there is obviously like like yeah,
like you just the rule is the same way you'd
be with your other co star, like just it's just
gonna be as professional as possible. Again, there's dozens and
dozens of people around watching, Uh so like yeah, I don't.

(55:43):
I don't think we have rules, but I guess the
rule would be just like don't hide it, like you know,
if you have to go do a scene like that,
help me leave that party out of the description, like hey, yeah,
this cool movie where I'm a cop and I jump
over a car and I shoot people that. Oh yeah,
and there's this like giant like crazy sexy and I'm
in don't leave that part out, I would say, is

(56:04):
the rule don't surprise them with that. I've always wondered
that about acting and if it's about and that actually
comes up in Entraage with Ari and his wife when
she come back to do what days of our lives
or something. Okay, last question at where I'm at. You
guys go on Leno or Vince goes on Leno, and
you guys all know there. How do you do that?
Because that's actually in a couple of movies, whether it's

(56:24):
Balin or whoever. Like these guys who host these late
night talk shows, they clearly are open to doing this,
and I'm always curious do they do it like right
before their actual taping of their show, so that the
audience is there? How do you how do you do that? Yeah?
So the first time we ever really did it, and
in my opinion, it was like I think of the
early early episodes, it was the episode that I think

(56:45):
everyone figured out this is what the show is. If
you remember in season one we all go on Vince
goes on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. This was like season
one of Jimmy Kimmel. He has now been on for
like twenty five years or whatever. This was so early
on and with that we film right before. And I
think similarly with Leno, Yeah, you either go because they
taped those shows at three o'clock in the afternoon, you know,

(57:05):
and and the audience is in, so I either think
it was. I think it was probably after their show
because they want to keep the studio audience there as well.
And then you just run in and do your thing.
Your goal with that is to be at least intrusive
as possible. So because everyone's there working, Like imagine if
someone came right now like, hey, we're gonna do this
other show on your podcast real quick, give me your

(57:25):
mis will be done in a half hour, it's like
all right, but yeah, Jay was great that day and
he was super down to play around and have fun
with it, and yeah, we'll just hung out at the
at the tonight show for you know, two hours. I
love it and I love the evolution of Turtle. It's
such a joy to watch. And again I watched with
my baby and I'm like, look, there's uncle Jerry having

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fun sex. Yeah as uncle Jerry. Yeah, you got some
more fun stuff coming up with season season six in
the category of what you were talking about, like significant
other having to do some racing scenes. That comes up more.
I don't think you've gotten to that yet. Oh yeah,
so stay tuned, all right. Now that the regular season

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is over, it's onto the playoffs, which is going to
make this part of the show, even more of my
favorite part because it's the playoffs and let's let's keep
making money and let's bring in our odds on favorite
bet MGM betting analyst Peter Andrew. First time I'm talking
to you in Happy New Year, buddy. How has been
treating you so far? Betting wise? Yeah? So, uh NFL

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has been great so far. I had a great last week.
I cashed in on a couple of big props. Week
eighteen is the big prop week because everybody's trying to
hit that number, get that extra incentive and that bonus.
And I think specifically I got lucky with the Dolphins
covering because that late safety, and then I had Niners
big they blew out Cardinals out of the wall or so.
So it was good there. But to wrap up the

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night of I was with our friend Olivia here in
London on New Year's even I think we just lost
every single college bet so College Semifinals, National Championship on Monday.
We just we lost them all. So we're in a
we're in a dark spot right now. It seems like
I say, it's a little bit of money by not
coming on that trip, between air fare and what I
would have lost betting with you and Peter. I feel
like I saved myself a little money not being in

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London for New Year's and the drink tab well that
that would have definitely not paid for. I would have
tried to get out of our We're not far away
from Arizona though, so don't count yourself out yet. There's
still money to be lost or made in a couple
of weeks. All right. Before we get into it too,
I just want to point out you are wearing a
very fancy Durrell hat for our golfers out there. You
played durraw right, which is of course it is a

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dream course. I've been dying to play Durrell. Also, I
will point out golf really fun sport to bet on.
I had some golf bets over the weekend that I lost.
We will talk about that. How did you play a draw?
Real quick? So I shot well relative ninety four there
from the blues, which is eight hundred yards. It's off
course and on your golf point of betting, we've got
some fun stuff from the golf angles, so lots to

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talk about as the season starts to kick off, as
we get towards the players in March. We're gonna have
some really cool stuff for you guys on Betam Jim.
If you haven't even just just start looking. I know
it's early in the golf season, now just start taking
the loo because as you get closer to the majors,
it gets really fun. But we're gonna We're gonna go
into now something we know is proven and true to
be fun, which is betting on the NFL Playoffs in
the Divisional Round. So, Peter Andrew, what are you thinking

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for this Divisional Round week? Yeah? So I got three bets.
I'll start with the simplest one. First, Bengals minus six
and a half. I think Bengals are peaking at the
right time. They look amazing, and you've got a Ravens
team that's really interesting right now. Lamar should be back
this weekend Sunday Night Football, but he's coming back missing
over a month, a lot of questions, Dobbin's health, Mark Andrews,

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a lot of guys on the defensive side. I just
don't know where we're gonna get out of them. So
I'm taking the points six and a half Bengals. I
think they're in cruise control this first game. To me,
They're one of the four best teams probably in the NFL,
so I like them there to cover. I've got four units,
so forty dollars to win, seventy six dollars there to
cover that spread. That's first off. I don't know, Jerry,

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where's your head at? There? As an Ohio better now
now that we're live in bet MGM and in the
great state Ohio. Oh and let me tell you, let
me tell you bet MGM, you got Ohio. I was
at a poker game this week. A lot of bad
Browns takes. I think a lot of Brown's bands, like
the Browns are beating the Steelers this week when we've
been betting them on bet MGM while we were playing poker,
I'm like, that's a terrible bet. The Browns are not

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beating the Steelers. But uh, I'm with you. I think Cincinnati.
I you know, I always get nervous with harbas a
coach because he's so gritty and that team is gritty.
But I just don't think you could bet on Baltimore.
So if you are gonna put some acts on the game,
I just think it has to sway in the Bengals way.
And I think that no, I would love it a
lot more at six, but six and a half I
still think seven and over is a good number. So

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I'm with you on that. And for you to win
seventies six is is sweet. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's four
you and it's there. You've got six left. Cool, so
little home cooking for each, for each of us, for
me and for you here first, I'll start with me.
Niners four thirty game Eastern on Saturday against the Seahawks,
against your Seahawks. Niners are one of those teams. I

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don't even want to say they're peaking right now. They've
won ten in a all, they've been peeking. It doesn't matter.
Brock Purdy, Trey Lance, Jimmy g I mean, the team
is just so well rounded. I think what you're seeing
them with Brock Purdy, he's developed really good kind of
one in two options with McCaffrey and Kittle. Kittle was
played probably as good as Travis Kelsey these last four
or five games with Purdy, you know, behind center. So

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I've got both of them to score in any time touchdown.
So both McCaffrey Kittle, I got Niners on an all spread,
mind a six and a half just to buy myself
a couple of points there from the time that it
currently is and then over forty two and a half points.
I mean, you saw what the Niners it to the
Cardinals last week, thirty eight points I think within three quarters.
Then they brought in all their backups. That offense is legit, obviously,

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that defense is legit. Defensive Player of the Year Nick Bosa.
I think it's been taken down on most books now
because it's pretty much a lock. You've got a team
that just can do everything right. I think they come
through this round looking really good, and there they'll be
focused on divisional round pretty shortly. And a couple of
things and maybe this is I'm sorry, no one was
on Seattle more than I have been this year. What

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do you think that spread is? Right now? You have
the all spread, but right now it's nine ers us
nine and minus nine and a half. What do you
think that spread is if it was the Lions rolling
into town, I have it at like six and a half. Yeah,
I think probably for Lions and Packers, you're probably looking
at something similar around there. But with the Hawks where

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they're at, yeah, it's probably three point and and last
thing on your Kiddle anytime to the one like, say
what you want about Brock Purty, Deniers won the Super Bowl.
Brock Purty is undefeated and it's Super Bowl champion. That
would be unprecedented to say he would be an undefeated
Super Bowl champion rookie quarterback. But also the one thing
he has done that for some reason, Jimmy g was
not able to do. And maybe it's not his fault.

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He unlocked Kittle whatever it was, or maybe Kittle got
healthy at the right time. But whatever it is, say
what you want about brock Party. He knows he has
instant chemistry with George Kittle. Maybe that's not that hard
because Kittle is great. So I like that best. That's
what thirty to units there. Yep, okay, love it and
you got you got three remaining a little bit of

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dog parlay. Here two teams that I think very well
could win this weekend Jags at home against the Chargers,
and then you're New York Football Giants going into Minnesota.
I am not buying this Minnesota team right now. They
are the worst defense in the league. Giants are kind
of clicking at the right time. Outside of just Daniel
Jones and s Kwon, Slayton, Richie James JR. Hodgens. I

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think you know they are not one A wide receivers.
They're all finding ways to win and finding ways to
to contribute into their offense. I think they're gonna put
up points, and I think Vikings are gonna have to
put up thirty points for this to be a game.
It's probably a close one. I wouldn't say the Giants
are gonna blaw him out or I don't think the
Vikings can either. But I think it's gonna come down
to the fourth quarter and who just makes that last

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play to win the game. As it goes for the Jags,
you're finally seeing a college playoff. Trevor Lawrence. He is
the top five, top seven quarterback this year just performance metrics.
He's played really well. He's running the ball. I think
his one fault has probably just gotta keep the ball
and not fumble it. I think he has nine fumbles
this year, which is concerning. But a Chargers team that

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seems very inconsistent. Some weeks, they look like they can
put up thirty five at will, and often times they're
putting up two touchdowns. So I like Jags at home
I just I think this is a really important game
for them, probably their first home playoff game and probably
five six years since they lost the Pats a couple
of years ago, since Mark Brunel. Oh no, yeah, I
think Blake boards out a home playoff game, right. I
think it's that board right before they lost the Paths

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and then if the championship. But but I think it's
a important game for them, and and the Chargers just
are not who we thought they were, probably early in
the season when we all we were doing is bragging
about the a f C West So and Olivia jump
in here, go ahead, get in Olivia. Well, I was
curious what you're gonna say about Charges Jags, because this
one I could see going either way. I mean, Jacks
such a good story right on the rise, great for

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Doug Peterson after all the drama turmoil, they finished on
a five game win streak, defense much better. Chargers make
me a little bit nervous with, you know, playing their
starters in that final game where it didn't feel like
they had too as long as they did. I think
that was a little controversial, and I mean Jacksonville, I
feel like it's kind of played it smart. Winning the
a f C South and invested in the right positions

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like the receiving corps, Christian kirk Za Jones. They made
really smart offseason moves, and um, I just can't believe
we're talking about Jacksonville right now. You know, listen to
further that point. Olivia too, I was gonna say what
the Jags don't I'm not getting old by the fact
that they almost lost two Dobbs and the Titans, because
to me, in a win and you're in game, Rabel

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is one of the few coaches I wouldn't want to
see in that scenario. I think Vrabel as a coach
and how he talks to that team gets that you
have to kill them to win. And I think that's
what the Jaguars did. They want That is a tough,
tough game to win, because of the coach, because of
those players. So I don't sleep on that win. Even
though they escaped with a win, that's not the right word.

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I think you have to kill the Titans to end
their season. So I feel good about the Jacks too.
I don't like that the Giants are now like a
thing and people are talking don't sleep on Kenny Golladay
caught a late touchdown in that game. Nothing would be
more deble ish than if he just put Kenny Golladay
on the bench because he had the wrong attitude and
now he's gonna unleash him in the playoffs. That that's

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my unleashed unleashed Kenny Golladay. Please eighteen million a year,
unleash him. I saw tweet he needed to get his
like bonus, it's brilliant. But yeah, I hear you. And
I think the Giants are a hot pick this week
because where they've kind of gone and starters, I mean

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no starters played basically the other day and they looked
really good versus an Eagles team that was playing everybody.
But but I think it's more about the Vikings. I
think they just cannot stop a nosebleed on defense. I
mean we've seen it multiple times where they're given up
thirty plus points. Giants are clicking at the right time
and back just last point on on the Jags. I
think beating the Titans is a playoff type win where

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it's a gritty win. They played awful in the first
half the Jags, but their defense is no joke and
they kept they kept Titans pretty in check in the
second half, and that's ultimately how they were able to win.
So so you're starting to see the playoff football week
before they started, and I think they they hopefully continue
that going into this week. Did we give the odds
on that you have that three units? That's what three
thirty to win one thirty eight? Right? Yeah? Sorry, so

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thirty to win one thirty eight. There so a nice
little hefty pay out. There's both technically underdogs. I think
the Jags are probably minus one of five, it's basically
a pick him right now, and the Giants being plus three.
It's a decent plus one and change. So yeah, thirty
two eight. There's gotta be some dogs winning somewhere, and
I don't see it in these massive spread games. I

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don't see the Dolphins coming close to the Bills, don't
see the Seahawks coming close to the Niners. A lot
of question marks around teams that probably aren't built for
the playoffs. Do you see it with our one playoff
home dog? Because I might see a little something there
are one playoff home dog, Tampa Bay. I just I'm

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gonna have a little sprinkle, a little sprinkle on Tampa Bay.
Just maybe to make that game a little more interesting
than it might be. Yeah, I think Dallas is probably
on the downfall at the wrong time, So I like
Tampa there. That was one I was considering putting in
the picks. Dallas looks strange right now, but then against
so does Tampa. I mean Dallas could win by forty
Campa could win by tampas the strangest. I think Tampa

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is the strangest. The strangest, uh relatively good team or
some playoff team. I should say there's a lot of
stranger teams at the bottom that could beat anyone, Olivia,
anything else. On this play. I think you've got a
good card, Pete. I might emulate a lot from this card.
I want to wish everyone good luck in the divisional round.
It's time to playoff. Like, grow your playoff beer, do

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your playoff hair, get your seat, whatever you gotta wear,
whatever you do. That's, you know, a little superstitious. It's
time for such superstitions. Do you have a specific playoff jersey,
regardless you're rocking it. I am so weird about this.
I do not rock my team's color and logos on
game day. I just it's never work when if I

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wear a Giant shirt, they lose. If I wear a
Knick shirt, they lose. So I actually have worn opposite
like if we're if I swear more with basketball, but
like I've worn Eagle socks when the Giants are playing
the Eagle. I I don't. Something weird happens when I
rock my team colors. It does not work out for me.
Will you assume Niners make the Super Bowl? Will you

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rock und red for me? No? Absolutely not, kind of
respect that incident. I mean, you don't need like, what
do you need it? I'll rock red because they'll be
playing the Chiefs again, so I'll wear some red. That's uh,
that's I think that's the matchup. I don't think anybody's
beating the Chiefs. So all right, well, good luck Pete.

(01:11:19):
Thanks for uh yeah, I like your car. Thanks for three.
Now let's let's get off on the right foot. Here
now is where it counts. So thank you, Peter, Andrew
and Olivia. I think that's gonna do it for us
on this amazing divisional round that we have going in.
Good luck to you. Just look at the divisional round.
I'm not saying you have to go in. I know
you said you might wait for the super Bowl, but

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just just peruse, give it a look, and then we'll
get us ready for the super Bowl. The one that
has my attention right now, after we've talked more about it,
is Bill's Dolphins and Peter. Just to catch you up. Earlier,
Jerry was saying, take it now before the number goes up.
I think right now it's at ten. Taking the bills
to cover it is now ten and a half and half,
and there's I mean, there's what a ten percent chance

(01:12:02):
that to have starts if it's Skyler Thompson or Petty
two Gloves. Okay, all right, see him back in already
I thought she's back in. It's like losing I know.
Also I think everyone else is back in. And don't
forget to subscribe to the bed MGM at least podcast
YouTube page where you could see our lovely mugs and
watch this all happen in front of you and in

(01:12:24):
you know, in visual form. We are visual people. At times,
I don't even know what to do with myself at
the playoffs here week eighteen too many weeks. So let's
get to the good stuff. Thank you everyone for listening.
Shout outs to our other podcast guests who be here
with you, Olivia, best guests we've ever had. I was
gonna say, this is one of those times I think
a lot of people with kids can understand where you're
just trying to make it work, and I have an

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eight month old dictators just kind of messing up our
whole show right now. So if you are watching, you've
probably noticed me looking down at the floor and trying
to pull things out of his hands the whole time.
But yeah, my little babies is doing as a live
studio audience at all. It was an amazing performance, uh,
and hopefully you'll have an amazing performance this weekend. Good
luck everybody, and we will catch you next week. H