Throwing Strikes with R.A. Dickey

Welcome back to another exciting episode of Unleashed, brought to you by BetMGM. This week Olivia Harlan Dekker and Jerry Ferrara are speaking with former MLB Pitcher, the Knuckleball Ace, and CY Young winner, R.A. Dickey. Pitching back to back 1-hitters while he was with the New York Mets, he recorded 120 career wins and was one of the most dominant pitchers in recent baseball history. Today, he joins Olivia and Jerry to discuss his incredible career, the MLB postseason, and race to the World Series. Plus, he also touches on how he thinks his former Mets will do in the postseason, teases a possible comeback, and reveals the existence of a secret knuckleball council. Later, you’ll hear from BetMGM’s betting expert, Peter Andreu, who gives the 4-1-1 on some week 5 NFL wagering. So hit play and listen to another episode of Unleashed, presented by BetMGM!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports
podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Ferrara and Olivia Harland Decker. All right, well, Jerry, we

(00:32):
thought the craziest video we'd ever see of Antonio Brown
was running off the field flipping off the crowd mid game.
We were wrong. Oh what a week in sports. Welcome
to Unleashed, Jerry. How are you doing eyes for someone
who could maybe say it's unhinged. I don't know what's happening. Um. Yeah,

(00:53):
that was definitely an interesting way to start off the
NFL viewing week for sure. Antonio Brown Man Just I
guess he's living his best life. I don't know what's
going on. I don't know what's happening. I don't know. Yeah,
I don't know. Some people are saying he had a
better d than the Detroit Lions. Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let's move on. She said it, she said it. So
I gotta tell you that in London last week, the

(01:15):
vibes were incredible. Yeah, just Vikings fans, I gotta say,
outnumbered Saints fans. It really seemed like everywhere I walked
I saw purple. My husband kept yelling, go Pat, go
to people, and they just turned around like I'll miff
you know people, is that asshole? Right? And we get
into a London boxing match with a with a brit
That would be really interesting, Sam, don't do that. Yeah,

(01:38):
but it's cool because we went to this one bar
that's right in this awesome area of town for people
who have been to London. It's right by Borough Market
in London Bridge. It's called the Banker and the barrow
Boy or something like that, but it's like the NFL
bar for all these games. And I went with my
friend Jamie Urdle, she is the host of Good Morning
Football NFL Network, and I went to me here at

(02:00):
the set, we hung out, we got to see the crew,
Peter Schraeger. I brought the baby. He was loving it.
It was really cute. And then we walked to this
Vikings bar because she's a big Vikings fan. She was
working sideline of that game if you were watching the game,
and she's just a great, great person, really really excited
to uh have gotten a seen her out here. And
we grew to the Vikings Bar and every time they

(02:21):
did the skull chant School School cool my baby, like
the loyal Packer fan he is just started crying like crazy.
He was hating this moment, like I had to bring
him outside of the bar because you know, the Viking
ism was getting to him. So is there no chance
he's a Packer fan, meaning like the Chief's blood doesn't

(02:43):
run it? Like is that? I know you could maybe
handle two teams. You're well rounded, you're car you know,
maybe what if he likes the Chiefs. What if Mahomes
five years from now when he maybe starts watching football,
still slinging it and he's like, Mom, I love Dad,
I love Patrick Mahomes go Chief. You can't get mad
at him. No, And you know what's going to be
funny is like me growing up was Brett Favre Aaron

(03:06):
Rodgers again. My grandpa worked in the front office for
the Green Bay Packers. My dad still calls preseason games
before he starts his network NFL season. I've done Packer
preseason games and work packer training camp like we are
packer people. My husband, I don't think I's ever missed
a game in his life, including and we've lived in
Russia and Turkey, like we are obsessed. However, if Jordan

(03:28):
loves the future of the Packers. I have a hard
time thinking my son as he grows up, is going
to get like really into the Packers, you know what
I mean? Where Patrick Mahomes kids love Patrick Mahomes. And
that's how it happens. As we know, as if Steph
Curry has taught us anything with the young kids is
that and my nephew who's thirteen now, they kind of

(03:48):
fall for They fall for the player, not necessarily the team,
right Like that's why, right, So you know, there's very
possible our kids might just root for the team that
their favorite player is on that didn't go on in
my day and my day you pick a team, and
if you're just stuck with the players that you have,
you can't just hedge and say go Warriors. I love

(04:08):
Steph carry So listen, if this podcast lasts for like
three or four or five years, we're gonna have some
very interesting fan hood conversations with our kids, that's for sure. Yeah,
especially when years become Deshaun Watson fans. Well, I just
can't handle me a Browns and Knicks. What kind of
what kind of father? Am I? If? I if my
son roots for the Browns and the Knicks. I'm basically

(04:28):
setting them up for therapy. Deshaun Watson jersey for christ
don't you? Oh my god? But no, it's really fun.
I'm so excited. We record this on Tuesday, So now
the slew of Packer fans are getting into town and
Giants and Giants. I'll let you know next week. What
I felt like I saw more of. But I am

(04:50):
going back to the same bar because the bar owner
told me, oh yeah, we're just switching everything over next
week to Green and Gold and then the Broncos. It's
also gonna be the Broncos home bar end of the season.
Why how do they investigative journalist? How do they pick
for his team? Right now? They're a very NFC North
heavy bar. How do they pick? Why can't it be

(05:10):
a Giant's bar next week? Why does it have to
be a Packers bar? I don't know. I know that
the Giants will also have like a team bar. It's
like where they're doing pep rallies and whatnot. All I
know is I'm not going right. Well this bars want
to know? This bar is want to know? Would be
really interesting if this bar for betters out there goes
Packers and the Packers winning cover. You gotta sort of

(05:32):
track this bar's picks. Then maybe this bar is the
only the person who runs the bar is the only
person who could pick. I will say as a team
who doesn't really the Giants who don't really have a
home field advantage. In my opinion, I just think it's
hard to go watch games that met Life. It's hard
to get to, it's hard to leave. It's hard. It's
harder to get into the seat. It's longer to get
into your seat than actually watch the game. I don't

(05:53):
think the Giant fans are gonna really travel to London,
but it on TV it looked like they were having
way more of a good time London than anyone who
goes to matt Life Stadium. Just one guy's opinion. Wh
hasn't been to a football game in five years? Oh,
first of all, we gotta change that. I try to
get you to come to this one. But from New York?
Are you kidding? You have no excuse getting New York
to London. It's like New York to l A. Yeah,

(06:17):
it's nothing. So those Giants fans who want to travel
and support their team, and obviously you know, probably expensive
plane ticket, but come on, and for Packer fans, Packer
fans travel really well, and Packers are packers, like the Steelers,
And who else would we throw in this mix? Who
are like international brands? I mean Cowboys for sure, Coolers

(06:39):
for sure, you could say the Niners for sure, Raiders.
I think Raiders are international. Maybe No, No, I mean
I'm only those teams that were like all right back
in the day there was only four teams on TV.
Was like the Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Lions, Bears. I guess
Bears have that. Yeah, But I do think there's gonna

(07:02):
be Packer turn out this week. I do. I think
this is going to be exciting. But you know, the
NFL has had thirty one games played in London, which
I thought it was less than that. So good for
the NFL. This thirty second game played in London. Get this, Jerry.
It's the first time two teams with the winning record
are playing over here. Isn't that wild? Well, it's it's wild,

(07:24):
but no, I think it's it's very accurate. That's data
that we've all known. We've been serving arguably the worst,
if not second worst game of the week to to
these for these London games, and all they've done is
embrace it and love it and cherish when these games
are played. So I'm happy they're getting to winning teams.
I'm shocked that my team is one of the winning teams. Uh,

(07:47):
do you know what the Giants record is in London?
In London? I don't undefeated in London. Let's go. You
know we're going to talk more about that. I mean,
here we are talking the whole episode about this. We
knew this was happening, folks. We knew this week, regardless
of it was in London or whatever, was going to
be big. But I think we should place a little

(08:08):
friendly wager on this one later on the show. It
sounds good. I'm always up for that guy. No, I'm
so excited going to the game. My mom's in town
for the game. She my mom. By the way, if
you want to go back to an NFL game for
the first time five years, theory, go with my mom. No.
One embraces the culture in the NFL and the tailgating
and the post game party and the pregame party and

(08:29):
the halftime party. Like my mama. She is fantastic game.
I'm down. That's what I need to go back to,
go back to. I have a theory with going I
like going to football games, not my first sport. Basketball
to me will always be like the number one sport
to go watch in person. You know, I didn't know
that well because it's quick and it's easy to watch,
and it's you seem like a guy who you know

(08:50):
you're not in it for the long haul. Also, I
don't want to sit in a seat and be freezing cold,
and I like East Coast teams. I'm sorry, I don't
want to be and I'm married woman from the Midwest.
I don't want to be freezing cold in my seat.
I just I'm sorry. I've called me soft. Whatever you
want to say, that's just just the wayest. Then you
would hate at Lambeau. You know it's metal bleachers, like,

(09:11):
it's not seats. I'm good. I'm going September. Newspaper you
have to sit on newspaper because it's so called. I'll
go September. I'll go to their second week two game
next year. Speaking of that, this Packers game this past
weekend against the Patriots, gorgeous day. Did you see how
beautiful that looked on TV? And Unfortunately, people should have
gone home earlier than they did. Gorgeous day, not gorgeous football.

(09:34):
I mean, I don't know what to make of the
Packers this year. I think they're good. I just don't
know are they going to be trustworthy when you start
getting down to late season and playoff games? Like we
know Aaron Rodgers is trustworthy. Are these receivers gonna be trustworthy?
Is the defense? I mean, you could tell too. Sorry,
I don't know. Belichick looked so happy to be coaching

(09:56):
in a game where like this is like straight out
of We're gonna run the ball four hundred times, We're
gonna like he just looked happy to be coaching this
weird game when the way I'm having a quarterback, I know,
speaking of kind of unpredictable. And how did you do
betting wise this week? I feel like you've had a
couple of dogs lately. Well, I'm losing the parlays, I'm

(10:18):
hitting the teasers. I went against what I was doing.
I've been doing ten point three team teases right, and
I've I've won three weeks in a row on those.
This week, I got a little cocky and I said,
you know what, I'm gonna knock it down and get
the better odds. I'm gonna knock it down like a
seven point tease. And I had the Panthers plus eight
and they lost my ten. If it would have been
a three team tease, they would have been plus eleven.

(10:40):
So my thing is like, just keep the three team teases.
Ten point teas is coming, don't knock the points down.
This past weekend was a little rough. Definitely didn't hit
but my Giants one which kept me coming. But usually
I have the teams that I love to bet against
year in, year out. And we've talked about this on
this show before. Who are the bottom three NFL teams?

(11:03):
Meaning like you see them? That's always where your eye is.
A better goes to, like who it used to be?
Like who are the Jags playing? Or who are the
Texans playing? I don't think you could say that anymore.
The Jags are up fourteen nothing in Philly and then
all hell broke loose. We we talked last week about
parody and it is. It's interesting bottom three teams like
our Raiders got I have it. I think I think

(11:25):
I have my bottom three and I first win. But
I mean the Broncos looked terrible and they lost their
best running back, the only one they have that doesn't fumble.
I think you have to put the Steelers in the
bottom three, even with Pickett. I I'm sorry, is there

(11:45):
a way we can't put those Lions on the bottom
three after watching that defense, America's Sweetheart Hard Knocks is over.
It's old news. We fell in love. I'm on Ross
Brown's amazing. If he's not like I love the offense,
That defense is bad. Maybe I got them there, and
I'm sorry. I think I think it's the Commanders are
on a fast track to be in the bottom three.

(12:08):
I'll raise you, Carolina Panthers so well. You know you
see Stephen A. Smith rant on Baker Mayfield. That was cold.
I will say maybe if I can't find the teams
that I always like to fade, I think maybe like
kids rooting for their favorite players, I think you maybe
start finding your quarterback to fade. And maybe that's Baker Mayfield.

(12:30):
I know, I know, God, he's struggling, he really is.
I don't know why. I like always feel bad. I
don't care who it is, like, I feel bad when
I see a quarterback, especially a quarterback, because they just
they get the highest of the highs, but man, do
they get dogged when they start failing. And Baker's had
no no grace, Like, no one shows Baker any grace,

(12:50):
not saying he deserves it. But even if you was,
like had at least one win, two wins, like, I
just feel like everyone's going to give him a hard time.
People just want He's a guy people want to see fail,
and I think that's really fair. I think people root
for him to fail. Also because of the number one
pick thing. I don't think that did him any favors
in a way, although it's a huge honor and you
could say at the time it was deserving, you know.

(13:13):
I think right there that maybe was the start of
like you're the number one pick, you're the best, you know,
I don't know, I don't know if that it's all
situational and also being a look, sorry, Cleveland, I love you,
being a part of the Browns with the rotating head
coaches and so before Stefanski and the rotating offensive coordinators
and you know, not really the best situation to be

(13:34):
in for any young player to start their careers. It's
all situational. So you mentioned Pittsburgh earlier, and I was
thinking about that. I was excited. Sam and I were
sitting here watching and we go, oh my god, he's
going in. He's going in. I think everyone was because
it's a great story. You know, he played his college
ball there. Fans were cheering for him. It's great. Did
you know that the Steelers are oh and seven without

(13:56):
t J Watt? I did not know that. He's pervious
about Kenny Pickett. I mean he had two rushing touchdowns
pretty quickly, and his three picks. I don't think tell
the whole story. One of a hail Mary. I mean,
it's whatever, it's It looks worse on paper than it
was in the game. He definitely changed the energy. I
thought he was exciting, but I mean, they need to
teach it. What back my god, and their schedule coming up.

(14:17):
Sorry Jerry, but it's tough sledding at Bills, at Dolphins,
at Eagles. That's on the next four weeks and somewhere
in between there is TV twelve at home. So yeah,
I'm sorry. I know tanking when basketball is frowned upon.
I tried to fix it, and maybe they did fix
it a little bit. And I know tanking and football there.
I can't say it hasn't happened. If anyone should maybe

(14:40):
kind of say it is too early to give up.
But with this hellish schedule they have coming up, and
if it doesn't go their way with a rookie corps,
it can't be Rabinsky. If it's Chrabinsky playing, you're just
waiting for Picket to be ready. Obviously that's not the answer.
Long term, getting some draft value is probably good thing,
especially if what's gonna miss sometime. The sucky thing is

(15:01):
Mike Tomlin is a championship coach. I don't want to
see a Mike Tomlin team rebuild. I just don't want
to see it. I mean, I know he can do it.
I think he's he's he's a Hall of Fame coach.
I love Mike tom That's like one of my dream
coaches for the Giants, but he never left Pittsburgh. I
don't want to see him rebuild. I want to see
him like competing for a championship. He's so good. Yeah,

(15:24):
but better to see someone like Mike Tomlin, who's young
and cool and hip, rebuild than like Pete Carroll, like
whenever Belichick Exactly. These guys can't rebuild. Come on, yeah,
do they? And and I'm surprised they want to. I
don't know. Maybe I don't know. I just think at
some point you've done everything there is to do. I'm

(15:45):
not saying like you don't love the job. Maybe they
love being around the guys and the camaraderie of a
football team, and maybe that's it. Quit. These guys can't quit.
I just don't want to watch the Steelers, and I
don't want to watch Tom when rebuild because I just
I just love watching that too. In the player. You
give him time to prepare for a team, it's almost automatic.

(16:07):
I was just having this conversation at dinner to night,
was why do old football coaches and old politicians not
just go sit on a boat somewhere just freaking retire,
Go enjoy all the fruits of your labor. These people
are so rich and choose the most demanding, arduous professions.
I could tell you who is not going to do
that is going to be an old actor if he

(16:29):
has enough money named Jerry Ferrara. You won't see me again, amen, Amen,
you not see me again. A boat somewhere. I won't
be on screen. You won't see me again. I love it. Um.
Something else from this weekend that was such a huge
storyline going into week four was the big meeting Lamar Jackson,

(16:51):
Josh Allen and will the m v P odds change
it all? Because those two go on head ahead, someone
was going to come out on top. And what a
weird game. Josh Allen leads the biggest comeback of his career.
They're down twenty to three, they go run and really
different from last week. They led time of possession or sorry,

(17:12):
Ravens led for twenty last week in Miami, Bills led
for so weird, so don't you know, just time with
possession even matter? But the craziest thing, Jerry, was that
the odds did not change going into week four for
Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson for m v P. What
are your thoughts on that? I think it was justifiably
so because the game itself, it didn't sway me one

(17:34):
way or the other about how I felt about their
m v P chances in that game. I think if
anything like, yeah, I get their odds staying the same,
and Jalen Hurts is officially on that watch of you know,
if they continue to win these games and their records
is gonna be impressive, and he's leading the league in
rushing touchdowns. That's who I'm watching. But the Ravens really
gotta you know, one point. I think almost every, if

(17:55):
not every single game was like within one score, like
mid way or late third quarter. I don't know if
I've ever seen games that are just that close. The
Ravens got to figure out how to play with the lead.
And I don't know what the deals they have running bad.
They don't know they they're now blowing some leads and
those two games really might haunt them down the road.

(18:17):
They're lucky they're in the North. Amen. Okay, Well, in
addition to the NFL, we're going to preview the MLB
postseason with former MLB pitcher the knuckleball Ace and Cy
Young winner are A Dicky will be joining us. We'll
get his World Series prediction, Jerry and if he thinks
his former team, the Mets can make a run here

(18:38):
and then your Yankees will teams even pitched to Aaron
Judge in the postseason. I definitely want to get his
take on that one. And I think you've got a
couple of thoughts on postseason right, Yeah, listen, I hate
to make this my unleashed for this week, but I
think I have to. We're talking to r A Dicky
the Mets just how to collapse. Baseball playoffs are going
to start, so what better time than now? Knows? But

(19:06):
if I try to, I try. I think of myself
as a baseball purist. I don't love all the changes,
but they've really opened my eyes with expanding the playoff
amount of teams and all that. I do think that's
good for baseball. And we're gonna ask our A Dicky
about that. So let's go step further. We're gonna throw
out all the stuff and just bringing all this new
stuff baseball. Why now, look, I love baseball games in October.

(19:29):
Now we are going to have games in Cleveland and
New York and we might be gonna get some really
really bad weather, not always the best for playoff baseball.
Why are we still right on the NFL's corner when
if you just maybe cut out thirty five games from
the regular season, keep adding playoff teams, slide the playoffs
back up into August, and end the season World Series

(19:53):
Game seven just post Labor Day. I know baseball traditionalists
are gonna roll their eyes and probably scream at me
when they see that in the street. Tell me if
the World Series wasn't on start Game one, wasn't September one.
You're not making that like appointment television as opposed to
you know, when is it going to be? Thursday night
football gonna be a problem and Sunday night football? Like

(20:16):
there's just too much competition. I don't know why we
have to pair it up with everything going on the NFL.
People are getting super psyched for basketball. I love baseball.
I think it deserves its own month for the playoffs
in World Series. Cut down the regular season games. Give
me more playoff teams, give me more playoff games like
you already doing, and end it by Labor Day. End

(20:38):
by Labor Day. You'll own the month of August. You
will own the month of August. No, I get it.
August is like the slowest month in sports, So I
like it. I'm with you on that take. We talk
a lot about programming, you and me, because we always
are questioning why sports are scheduled the way they are,
Like your your ice cold Super Bowl Saturday pick. But yeah,

(20:58):
I'm with you on that. That was a great take.
You know you you're coming. You know you liked it.
You know you like that take m Okay, we'll speaking
of that. I I've got a transition because I think
you and I should do a friendly wager for our
two teams facing off in London. I can't wait. I'm
going to the game and this is gonna be my
unleashed because I think the Packers right now are an

(21:19):
eight point favorite, and Giants we still don't know about
Daniel Jones. He's still murky, I think. Was the headline
I just read. I'm a little worried about your defense.
They're pretty gnarly. Five sacks in the first half last
week they only had three coming into the game, so
I'm worried about how the Packers old line is going
to hold up. As you know, David Batiaris still gearing up.
Belton Jenkins on the right side has been struggling. But overall,

(21:42):
I think Packers tip to tail are a better team.
I like them to cover. I'm nervous about that though,
but they are a top ten offense, top ten defense,
and the Giants are in bottom third offense and defense.
But I also would urge our betters take the under
because the Packers are struggling score We obviously are seeing that,
and it's been their lowest scoring total in four games

(22:06):
than two thousands six So, uh yeah, take the under,
but take the Packers to cover. At least take the
Packers money line if you're not as confident. And with that,
Jerry looks like just you know, like a friendly wager.
This doesn't have to be intense and no money. But
what do you think, what's something that we can bet
against each other. Well, it's something we should try to

(22:26):
do on this podcast, and it's something. Look, I do
believe you're gonna win. I'm gonna go full reverse psychology
on you and try to reverse CHINGSI the way Peter
andrew it. Look a couple of things. The Giants who
have given me so much joy this year where banged. Uh.
I mean, first of all, Tyrod Taylor should just just
give that guy like he should sue everybody. He's got

(22:48):
the worst luck he does of any quarterback, and he's
he's a very very talented quarterback. Like I don't know,
they just someone gotta take care of that guy. He's
he just wants to play. But I mean, we might
not always say Kwan Barkley might be our quarterback tip
with might still be her oh Lor might still be
hurt anytime Cadarius Tony wants to play football, I'm ready.
Kenny Golladay might be hurt. Big loss, They're real, big loss.

(23:09):
I'm getting the eight points, right? Come on, all right?
How about this, because and I do think the how
about an honor of the cheesehead thing? The loser has
to on this podcast for a good amount of the
time where a piece of cheese that the winner gets
the select Are we just doing money line? Fine? Fine,

(23:35):
cheese on my head? Fine, yeah, yeah, Okay, loser has
to wear cheese, real cheese on their head next week
for the entire recording of Unleashed And okay, the winner
can choose the variety, right, there's a lot of different cheeses.
Wait a minute, isn't the guest like Kevin Garnett next week? No? No,
I want to do that to you, all right? Can
I at least take it off for the guest interview?

(23:56):
M Please come on, I'm giving you money line. I'm
giving you moneyline, and that's more than fair. I'm giving
you money line. I could take the eight points. Just look,
you're looking at the guests. Could you at least no
cheese for the guests. Fine, no cheese for the guests,
but the winner really gets to pick the cheese. And
that does not leave out anything that is liquid. So

(24:18):
think of kaso, think about fondue. You've got to think
about think about sprinkled cheese. I don't like where this
is going, and I will agree to this now. But okay, oh,
I hope the reverse danks works right now, because then
you are in for because you're being mean, right you are.
You know you're gonna win, and you're you're messing with

(24:39):
me right now? All right, guest today, Just like the knuckleball,
he took a very interesting path to becoming a Young
Award winner, and for a stretch he was one of
the most dominant pitchers in baseball history. He pitched back
to back one hitters while he's with New York Mets,

(25:00):
and he recorded a hundred and twenty career wins. Are
a dicky is here? So look, you retired in seventeen,
not that long ago. I need to know when is
the last time you threw a knuckleball? You're keeping the
arm loose these days. Yeah, I'm limbered up, man. I
I uh. I threw a knuckleball yesterday to my son,
he's sixteen, and we played catch and I hit it.
I hit him in the knee with it. It's still good.

(25:23):
He went to Yeah, he went to catch it and
bounced off his knee, So I know I still got
it in there. I might be making a comeback when
I'm about fifty, when my kids were out of the house.
So if, for instance, the Mets made an emergency call,
how many innings could you do you think you could
eat up right now? And the Mets could have used
it this weekend. I can tell you that if they
made an emergency call, how many innings, like right now

(25:44):
tomorrow could you could you go? If you had to?
I think I could probably go three. You know, I'm
not in baseball like endurance shape, but I could get
through three, you know, because I don't have to be
at max effort with that pitch. You know, I can
throw it sixty and have it danced around and got
swinging mass, so I don't have to get my arm
like fully in shape. But to be a starter, I

(26:05):
need a mind. Oh my, but three innings still, I
mean I'm dead series. I really think the Mets would
have loved nothing more than to pull you out of
the bullpen against the Brasy What what what is it
about the knuckleball? And I'm sure you could ask us
all the time, but like, why don't we see more
guys trying? Is it just that difficult to master? Which
it seems like an it's like the mystical pitch. It

(26:25):
really is. Yeah, you know it is that there is
some you know, I joke all the time with people
that I had the good fortune of getting to work
with Phil Niekro and Tim Wakefield and all those guys.
I call him like the Jedi Council of knuckleballers. I mean,
there is something, there is something very mysterious about that
pitch that causes it to move around like it does.

(26:46):
And to answer your question, I think one of the
reasons that you don't see more guys doing it now is, yes,
it is very difficult to do, but you also have
to have people that have a stomach for it. And
I don't know, in this narration, if you've got a
front office that has the patients to deal with, you know,
catcher running to the back stock across the balls rolling around,

(27:07):
or a guy walking three or four guys in an inning,
or they're looking for the next Steven Strasburg. They're not
looking for the next White Wilhelm, you know. I mean,
it's that's interesting. Are there any types of hitters that
especially see knuckleballs well or is it just as unpredictable
for them as it was for you? Well, I'd like
to say that, you know, it was immune to all

(27:29):
types of swings and types of hitters. But I think
the reality is there were certain guys that were really
good at going to the opposite field that gave me
fits Like I I could face Aaron Judge and Mike
Stanton all day like that. That was good a Rod
those guys. But it's the little kind of natty guys

(27:50):
that are okay taking their single to right field that
gave me all kinds of trouble. And if you have
a guy like Freddie Freeman, for instance, who probably has
you know, a career six average against me, he's good
at both like he he likes going the other way
and he's got power, so he was double trouble for me.
So when I got when when I got signed to
the Braves, he was the first guy to call me,

(28:12):
and he was so disappointed because he wanted to face
that keep facing me. Think. So, I'm a Yankee fan,
but obviously I had a great deal of respect watching
you pitch for the Mess. And I'm not a Met hater.
I like to give my Met fans a little bit
of a hard time, my friends, But I do want
to ask you this because this is a debate we
always had. You know, you go back to that Aaron

(28:33):
Boone walk off home run and that in the series
against the Red Sox off of Wakefield. Now, the origin
of that was Boone was essentially benched. He was in
one of the worst slumps any Yankee has ever had. Now,
my friends always suggest that Aaron Boone hit that home
run because he was slumping and like bat speedwise, almost
like you said, like he almost just took the knuckleball

(28:56):
and just did whatever he could with it. He wasn't
trying to rear back, Like is there anything to that,
not saying like a guy slumping is more prone to
hit a knuckleball or was it just right place, right
time for Aaron Bone Well, you know, I'll say there's
no There's no pitch that's more difficult to hit in
baseball than a perfectly thrown knuckleball, and there's no easier

(29:16):
pitch to hit than a poorly thrown knuckleball. And so
I think it was just a it was a combination
of tim you know, and Timmy I'll tell you. You You
know that he kind of rolled one up there. It
was probably about you know, seventy mile an hour BP ball,
you know, because if if that, if that ball rotates
just even a full rotation, it's going to straighten out
and turn into the easiest VP that you could possibly hit.

(29:39):
I mean, you're you could you could probably hit one
out on it. So, you know, I think it was
a kind of a combination of both, like the right guy,
right time, and he threw a clunker up there that
got crushed. You know. Now, I don't know if you
were messing with us or not, Like do in your mind?
And I'm always asking professional athletes this after retirement, you know,
do you because retire it's a tricky thing for anybody.

(30:01):
You do something for so long at such a high
level and then not having that in your life. Like
if you watch a baseball game today, do you always
get those feelings? I could go back out there, I
got more left. Yeah, you know, that's a great insight.
I think that really a guy who, regardless of the
sport that he's played, if he's played it for most
of his life. And I played professionally for twenty one years,

(30:21):
so it's the only life I really ever knew, or
my wife for that matter. And to learn that dynamic
of how to do life apart and together and then
apart and then together for twenty one years takes a
lot of skill. And then all of a sudden you're
thrust in this Petri dish of being next to each
other all the time and who's in chart? Like that's
a difficult thing for anybody. And so that took some

(30:43):
real getting used to. But to answer your question, when
I watch baseball, you know, I really don't follow I
follow friends now more than teams. I mean, I grew
up a Braves fan because I'm in Nashville, Tennessee. But
I still have really close friends that play, and when
I watched them play, you know, I still sometimes evaluate, well,
could I could I still get Freddie Freeman out? Could

(31:03):
I get Dames be Swanson out? Could I get Josh
Donaldson out? All these guys that I played with? And
the answer is a resounding yes I can. And so
I didn't retire because I ran out of steam. I
retired because I felt like I was being called to
be a husband and father, and so walking away. You
know that John Hart was going to exercise my option

(31:23):
for two thousand and eight teen with the Braves, but
I just felt like my kids needed me. I had
two daughters that were coming of age and needed a
day at around to help supervise that part right. And
so it was the right time for me to step away.
But my body is still in good condition and I
feel like I could do it. That's really powerful testimony
and really refreshing. I think to hear you probably understand

(31:45):
more than the average person does what Tom Brady is
talking about. You know, he says, I've got demands at home.
I've got a family of kids who are getting older,
wife and wants me home. Do you ever, you know
your ears perk up when you hear Tom Brady say
some of the stuff, do you know? And to be
perfectly honest, I wish there were kind of modalities in
place for guys who can see the end in sight

(32:08):
to help that transition, and because it it can be messy,
like when you're seeing that play out maybe in the
public eye a little bit with Tom, but he you know,
who knows the real truth there. I mean, let's not speculate,
nobody really does. But I will speak from my own
story and tell you that, you know, it is hard,
and it does ring bells when I hear you know

(32:28):
that he and just Sell maybe having some trouble around
his retirement and retirement because you're torn between two worlds.
It's all he's ever known since high school, literally, and
that it's hard to do that for a long long time.
You sacrifice much and you get a lot. There's no like,
I have complete empathy for that piece, but you also

(32:49):
a lot of people have to give up stuff for
you to do that. Um, if you have a family
in particular, yeah, I always marvel at you know, I'm
a relatively new dad. My oldest is three, and my
youngest is one and a half. Olivia is a relatively
new mom. And it's one thing when you're kind of
working and doing whatever your career dreams are, when it's

(33:09):
just you or even just you and your significant other,
like you, it's it's a it's it's workable. But yeah,
the minute the kids come involved. Even if I get
offered an acting job. These days, my first questions used
to be, well, who's in it, who's starting? Like who else?
And now my question is like where is it? And
how long? Because my mind is immediately to how long
do I have to be away from my family? So

(33:32):
that's a really interesting way to think about it all.
I want to switch gears for one second because I'm
a big baseball fan. I've been watching it was my
first love. There's so many rule changes now kind of
going on, and I just would love to talk about
someone who's stood on the mound and and you know,
looked at home plate. You know, we got the pitch
clock ten seconds, we got the the banning of the

(33:54):
infield shift. Are these things that ultimately may may help
baseball long term or is it getting too far away
from the things that we all maybe loved about baseball? Well,
you know, I think that's a great question. Um, I
think it just depends on what side of the aisle
you fall. You know, if you're a baseball purist, then
you're probably gonna be stand office to a lot of

(34:15):
the things that are being implemented presently. If you're a
new generation watch it. You know, you're you want the
game to be faster and more entertaining, and you want
to get in and out in three hours. And like
there's a lot to that. You know, we because of
you know, I don't want to get into a big
philosophical thing here, but technology wise, we have been groomed

(34:36):
to want things very quickly. You know, Um, information is quick,
Things happen quick. We want results fast, and so it's
the game's got to keep up with that if we
want to hang on to not so much you probably Jerry,
because you're a purist, but you know, the my kids
right like, um, my kids, they want it to happen

(34:57):
one way or the other quickly so they can move
on to the next thing. Um. And that's kind of
what we're up against is an industry and baseball is
how do you keep some of the things that made
baseball so special and so deep and earthy and have
a balance of that and the entertainment piece, you know,
keeping people around and engaged and and that's a that's

(35:17):
a tight rope to walk. It's hard. Okay, So those
are the actual rule changes. What about all the unwritten
rules in baseball? How to work with a knuckleball pitcher.
Did a manager ever tell you, hey, are a we
need you to drill their best hitter. Can you just
reach back fire one into his back? We need this man. Yeah. Well,
you know, I was a veteran for a lot of

(35:39):
my career in the major leagues, and so most of
the time the manager wouldn't have to tell me when
something like that needed to be done. You you did
that kind of You did that because you knew that
was what was called for. And of course I did
that on occasion, and you know, I was at more
risk than most because if you got hit with a
fastball from me, you knew it was in internal right

(36:01):
because I don't throw fastballs, throw knuckleball, and so if
I hit you in the back with a fastball, you
knew right then that it was the real deal, and
so you were probably going to either be aggravated or
charge or you knew that it was just the medicine
that you needed to take because of what you did
the ending before. It was some combination of all that.
But of course, uh, I have had to do that,

(36:22):
and I never throw a knuckleball when I hit somebody
on purpose, that's for sure. I'm gonna be a tiny
bit hypocritical for a minute, because I did say I
was a baseball purist. But you know, the sort of
expanded playoffs I do think ultimately is just good for
the overall health of baseball only because we love playoff games,
you know, and we love October baseball. Is that is

(36:44):
that something you wish were was around, like more playoff
spots available. I know I'm being a little hypocritical. I'm
a purist, but I love playoff baseball. There's no bet
to me. It's it's it's up there with any other sport.
I agree with you. I think I do enjoy an
extended playoff period with more teams involved. You just got

(37:04):
to be careful. You do so much work. You play
a hundred and eighty three games and hundred sixty two
games and a hundred eighty three days. It's basically what
you do. So you've grinded for that long and if
you put yourself in the right position at the end
of that, you want a reward for that, and so
you want to make sure that you can fairly do it.
But I absolutely agree with you, Jerry, that it's good

(37:28):
for baseball and good for cities. And good for the
industry to have more playoff baseball going on. So all right,
the knuckleball is such a rare pitch, so few have
mastered it. Do you think we'll see another knuckleball pitcher
in the MLB again? Um? I do. It might be me,
but it might Uh, it might take some time. I

(37:50):
think there's a couple of guys in the minor league
that um are doing it. And there's there's enough of
the old school regimes skill in place there, at least
at the concern a tent level, that they know the
value of the pitch. So I do think that there's
gonna be opportunity. The problem is, guys, it's just the
longer that we go without one, the more difficult it's

(38:14):
gonna be for a club to really give it a chance.
You know, you're gonna have to be really supernatural with
the pitch because you've got to You've got to earn
the trust of the front office more so as the
knuckleballer than any other picture, because they keep waiting for
the other shoe to drop, no matter how good you are.
They just think it's kind of a blue key thing
and they don't understand it. And and none of the

(38:35):
data or the metrics can really predict it, and that
that's hard for them to stomach. Can I also just ask,
off piggybacking off of that, how do you get to
the decision to be strictly a knuckleball guy? How did
that even come about? I think it's just because you
no longer are good at doing what he wants. We're
good at uh, you know. So it's a lot of

(38:56):
it's just because you're a failure really, I mean and
true in truth, and you've got to be okay with
that piece. And I think that's what keeps people that
have good knuckleballers from being really good, is they still
have to hang on to that piece of their ego
that that made them who they were for so long.
In order to be a good knuckleballer, you have to
forget who you once were and embrace this new path.

(39:18):
And if you can't really do that, it's going to
be a hard road to hope. And so you Rare
is the and I'm not saying this because I did it.
I'm just saying it's a fact. Rare is the guy
who can let go of that ego enough to be
able to embrace that he's no longer who he once was,
and if he ever wants to have another chance to

(39:39):
playing in the big leagues, he's got to embrace this
thing that's really hard to do. Now you met, you
mentioned pitching to your son earlier. Has he shown interest
in learning or not yet or maybe ever? I think
he assumes that people expect him to do it, and
so he toys for ound with it. But in truth,

(40:01):
like for him, he's a he's a you know, six
three too oh weight, So his hands are too really big,
and so he can't his your your fingers have to
be a certain link to be able to put pressure
on the baseball in the way she need to to
manipulate it, and his hands are just too big. So
my my goal for him is to teach him how
to throw a hundred you know, forget the knuckleball. That

(40:24):
would be so amazing though, if he was in like
a big like three to count bases loaded, oh yeah,
and he just busted out the knuckleball and struck someone
out with the bases load, that that might be the
if nothing else, you should make that into a movie.
That's a great storyline. I'd be incredible, I know, I
so like, we for sure have talked about how to
do it well, and he'll pop out a good one

(40:45):
every ten pitches like that we throw on or we're
practicing on the stove. He'll throw one good one out
of ten. But it would be epic if he threw like,
you know, eight and two thirds innings with a runner
on third, you know, dropped the one in there to
end it, that would be that would be off. Oh
I got I could get tears ago and just even
thinking about that, that's incredible. Yeah, incredible. Well, we've got

(41:05):
to look forward to playoffs a little bit. Let's start
with the Mets. They couldn't hold onto the division lead,
but they still got to Graham Shures or how do
you like their odds in October? Yeah, I'm torn because
I grew up a Braves fan, but my best years
of my career were with the New York Mets and
having incredible relationships with the fans there. So you know,
I love the pitching that the Mets have, but it's

(41:27):
going to take more than just that for them to
do it. I really feel like the depth that the
Dodgers have is good. You know, it's it's gonna be
a it should be a really good playoffs. Like, if
you're a baseball fan, this will be this could be
one for the ages as far as top to bottom,
from the wild Card games all the way to the
World Series, you're gonna get really good baseball. I think, Yeah,

(41:49):
you know, I the Yankees were actually the first New
York team that had their lead in their divisions slipping
away and they managed to hold on. But I look
at it like to me, especially the American lely. Obviously
you can see the Dodgers. I think the Dodgers of
the odds on like sports book favorites right now, but
I do think it's outside of that. I do think

(42:10):
every other team it's really who gets hot at the
right time. I worry about the Yankees because they're so
top heavy with judge and standing. Playoff baseball is just
different right where I feel like one even hot picture
could could could win you a series because you could
see them every third day. Yeah, Jerry, you are you

(42:31):
are really a baseball guy, because that is really a
two observations. I feel with the Yankees they are top heavy,
and also most playoff series should come down to the bullpen,
and so if you can identify the team that's got
the better bullpen, you're usually going to find those guys
that painting throughout. And so if the bullpens show up

(42:54):
for the Yankees, I like him. If they don't, then
it's gonna be tough for them. Yeah, it's kind of
been my concern with the Yankees all year, kind of
lasting for me. I know, I know I'm doing this hole.
I'm a purist rent playoffs being in October and you
start looking around like there's gonna be playoff games in Cleveland.
You know, I've spent time in Cleveland. There's gonna be
playoff games in New York now, and it just gets

(43:14):
so cold. So you know, did you have ideal whether
conditions would be like a windy October night kind of
be that's awesome for you, right, Yeah, it can be.
I need a little like from my yeah, from my pitch.
I need a little humidity, so you know, it's a
little bit more moist than cold, like the way the
ball reacts to humid weather, especially with like a thob

(43:36):
moll or a breeze in my face. I mean that thing,
you know. You know Bob Viewker's quote, like the best
play to catching knuckleballs, but wait till stuffs rolling and
pick it up right, So you would I would be
throwing a lot of those types of the pitches in
that kind of climate. But you know, I've played in
with Toronto, the Toronto Blue Jays. We were in the
playoffs against Cleveland in October and it was bridging. It

(43:58):
wasn't like the your adrenaline take sober. And you know
Cleveland fans are you know, they're they're tough, so it's
not a big deal, but it can get pretty cold.
I want to go back for a second. You said
Freddie Freeman was a guy who loved to play against you,
But did any hitters ever come up to you and say, okay,
all right, I'm getting embarrassed, just give me some advice
on how to hit this thing. Did the opposite ever happen? No?

(44:20):
You know what I was fine with. You know guys
that were a lot of times, guys that were going good.
We would go into a series and I knew that
who their hot hitters were, because you know, you've got
all the analytics and the data before you get to
a series. I would see some of those guys on
the day I pitch Peel out or take their one
day off a month because they didn't want me to
interrupt the way they were feeling at the plate. And

(44:41):
so a lot of times that I would get that
that that that would tell me more than anything, you know,
my saw young year. A lot of times I wouldn't
face the other team's better hitter or their best hitter
because they were going well and didn't want me to
interrupt what they were doing. Um, which can can happen
if you let it get in your head. You know,
I can interrupt you a hot street group click, or

(45:03):
I can put you into a hot street. Well all right,
I can't thank you enough for doing this. I really
do hope we get to do this in person one day,
because I really do want to at least just even
just see the I just want to see the grip.
I just would love to just because I'm a civilian.
I just want to look as as someone like we

(45:25):
all just wanted to always know how to do it.
So there is a mystic. I love that you're a
part of the Knuckleball Council. I think that's a thing
that we should talk about more. And I beg anyone
who makes baseball decisions. Yeah, no, do not lose enthusiasm
for knuckleball. And I would love nothing more than to
see you towing the rubber a year two whenever you

(45:47):
feel like it's okay to come back. I root for that,
I really do. I would love to see and I
think you could do it. I think you can do it.
I appreciate that you never know. You know I I
thought about it seriously from the last couple of months,
really just what it might take to do it, so
we'll see. Well, I've got to ask, because you said
it would take you a month to get back to

(46:08):
real plane shape. What would you do in that month? Uh? Yeah,
Well a lot of it would just be getting my
arm in shape. Like I don't call you back. Really,
I'm fine, but I would have to get my arm
able to throw a hundred pitches in a game, and
so that just takes about a month. I'm not going
to have to do it. Oh my god. I would
love Well, now we know, I would love to see Gerry.
Maybe you could play in a month. I can't do

(46:29):
any No, I can't do any I I will not
be I will not look. If I retire from acting,
I will not be coming back after that. Because that
means I can't do it anymore. So all right, thank
you so much. Enjoy the awesome baseball players started coming up,
and uh yeah, I also look forward to at least
let's make the movie about the kid who throws a
hundred miles an hour and throws the sickest knuckleball to

(46:51):
strike someone out with the bases loaded to win a
playoff game. This has been awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah,
you're welcome, guys, You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, Gary,
I have done it. I finished season three. It was fantastic,

(47:14):
as advertised of entrage, so so good, and I gotta
admit I'm a little embarrassed to say this. I teared
up at one point when Johnny Drama has his new
series on NBC and the reviews were horrible. He gets
in his car that you got detailed and cleaned. Now
you have a new love interest. That the whole another story,
And then he goes to Arizona and wakes up like

(47:36):
in the middle of a canyon, sad, depressed. His career's
gone nowhere. And then you all call him to tell
him they had sixteen million viewers on the premiere episode
and it's such an emotional moment of what's kind of
been an emotional season. You've got to tell me about
that episode. Yeah, this was really the genius of Kevin

(47:57):
Dillon a k a. Johnny Drama coming to play here
because you had two and a half three seasons of
build up to this emotional moment where he finally gets
his payoff. And uh so that episode ends at the
Grand Canyon where he screams victory. Right, So flashback to
when that episode aired on HBO. We were on that year,

(48:18):
I think right before The Sopranos, So that episode ended
at the Grand Canyon. Total random episode of the Sopranos,
which is a big one. If you haven't watched that one,
I won't spoil it for you. That episode of the
Sopranos right after ours, ended at with Tony Soprano at
the Grand Canyon. So it's two Grand Canyon endings. But yeah,
it's like Johnny Drama in Success. Everyone that has that

(48:40):
friend that's like the worst enemy to himself, he actually
had his moment. It was great. It was so good,
such a good episode. Another good episode of finish out
that season was when you go to del Mar the
horse races and you and Drama end up kind of
in a pickle. You end up with this horse and
he gets arrested. This whole thing. Tell me about that episode,
because you said every time you guys go away, you

(49:03):
have a lot of fun. And that's I mean. Del
Mar is kind of a way. Del Mar's away and
uh yeah, if any of you are unfamiliar del Mar,
which is right near Lahoya, basically San Diego, beautiful track.
It's right on the Pacific Ocean, so like you're watching
horse races, and then to your right is beautiful some
of those beautiful views you'll ever see. And as I
mentioned to you when we talked about the Vegas episode,

(49:24):
where there's gambling, there will be bets made. And let's
just say in between takes we were shooting out a
real functional racetrack, we were all making bets. I always
love long shots. We found the sixties six to one,
and I think my logic was I looked at Dillon
and Connolly and I said, hey, you guys are Irish.
This horse is from Ireland. Sixty to one. Let's go.

(49:46):
I think we put like a hunter bucks each on it,
or so we hit big. We hit big, Yeah, did
you have to do the same thing that you did
in Vegas drive home? That you were scared to take
that much money home? I guess you're already driving. Well,
this was this was del Mar so we were drying. Yeah,
I was say I was well in my criminal organization
and having done nothing wrong and was able to drive.
I was able to drive that cash right home. It's

(50:07):
just different now, a little more season veteran at this point, Olivia. Oh,
I love your kind of naivete with this whole thing.
How do we get this cash them? What do I
have to look forward to in season four? I can't
wait to start. So season three is all about getting
that opus right. Vince's chasing Median and getting that dream
movie that's going to validate him as an actor. And

(50:28):
I will say it might be a be careful what
you wish for season potential movie has been so cursed.
I keep thinking, Oh, they're they're, Oh they're not, Oh
they're they're they're not. And then the directors like, I
want the whole thing in Spanish. I have the Median
poster behind me, So spoiler alert, the movie does get
made happen. Yeah, but you're now at the apex part

(50:51):
of the roller coaster, you might be on the way
down potentially. Okay, By the way, the whole storyline with
Adrian and his agent, that whole part just really pissed
me off. I'm like, no, no, no, don't not the agent.
You don't, don't the agent that sidetrack. But oh, that
storyline kissed me off. You. Yes, and I'm sure somewhere

(51:13):
there's no way that was ending. Well no, and I'm
sure somewhere in Hollywood that's probably happened. Although everyone says
Entourage was a fictional world, and it was, but I'm
sure somewhere along the way something similar happened to somebody.
Are you hinting at something? No? No, not me, No,
not you, not you? Are you hinting? Is his character

(51:33):
based on No? No, no, no, oh my god, off Air?
I hope you tell me. Although this show, I mean
we kind of we kind of say it all on.
There are any of the characters based on real people?
By the way, Yes, and no. So you know, obviously
it was always technically inspired by Wahlberg and his friends,
because he really did have entourage and stuff. Obviously, when

(51:54):
Adrian was cast, he's never really been mistaken from Mark
Wahlberg physically, so it it evolved. Yeah, all there is
a Johnny drama out there of who was Mark's boy,
who was part of his life for a whole time.
I think he actually did used to do the thing
where he picked up his shirt and showed his abs
and called them the Hollywood squares. That was like a
real thing. Uh yeah. And then I think it became

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Mark's Friends. And then once Doug Ellen, the showrunner was
in charge and writing, he merged it with like his
group of friends. So we're a bunch of people's childhood
friends merged into HBO character. Oh my god, it's so fun. Okay.
Season three was amazing, as they all have been, so
I can't wait for season four. All right, coming to

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us live from the Bahamas from his own wedding weekend,
Peter Andrew, you have one understanding bride, my friend, because
if this was my husband weekend of our wedding, forget it.
You have to do what podcast gonna do? What I
told you, this is not worth this. I love you, guys,
so I'm happy to be on here for some time

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with the parents. So it's all good. We love you too.
We're so glad you're on. Hey real quick, Jerry and
I were just thinking we both have gotten married in
the past. I don't know what what Jerry, this is
my five year anniversary coming up with it for you.
I just had five year anniversary back in June. So
we are wise, we are experienced. Darry, what's your top
piece of advice for Peter this weekend? My top piece

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of advice is look. I Also, it's very similar to
what it's like on a on an acting set, right you,
there's the two stars of the move of the movie,
and there's one and two on the call sheet they
call them. In this case, your future wife is number
one on the call sheet. You are number two. And
it's gonna be like that for a long time, and
it should be. My advice to you is just take five,

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even ten minutes alone where it's just you and her
after you've been married, away from all the people in
the party, and just even if you're just sit in
silence and stare lovingly into each other's eyes, just have
ten minutes where you just connect and just celebrate, and
then then you go into the party where you guys
will be justifiably so the stars of the show everyone's

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gonna want to talk to you and eat when you
can because you ain't gonna eat, so whenever you see food,
eat that's it. That's all I got. And my advice
is write her a letter the night before the wedding.
There's a lot going on, rehearsal, dinner, welcome party, all
this stuff, people in and out. You feel like you
have to like entertain everyone in case the day gets
away from you. I like the idea of writing your

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future spouse a letter that just lays out everything that
is the reason you're doing this in the first place.
What do you think about that, Olivia, I've already started
writing that way so way ahead of you. Someone else
gave me that advice too. There will be some things
that I add from this week, but I started it
yesterday before we left so and and yeah, and Jerry,

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you you gave me that advice on your podcast. And yes,
that's something we've been talking a lot about. Is just
get away from the craziness. Even it's like you said,
for five ten minutes, just to make sure we're soaking
it in and enjoying it. Really put things into kind
of perspective. So I love it and really appreciate it
for you. Guys. Now I have my wedding gift for you.
I'm gonna give it to you on this podcast. You're ready, Okay,

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your wedding gift is this is your last week picking
games on this podcast as a single man, quote unquote.
So we're gonna close the chapter after this week. Whatever
happens this week, whether you're up or down, we're ending
that part of Peter Andrew on this show and we're

(55:35):
starting the new part next week as a married man. Well,
we're gonna start tracking your wins and hopefully not losses,
because I just feel like you're gonna start seeing the
ball a little differently now that you're officially a married man.
So this week you're down a little bit on the show,
not much, a little bit, So this is gonna be
Peter Andrew's last few little picks here as a single man.

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However you finish after this week, we're closing that chapter
because we're onto a better one married Peter Andrew. So
last week was a little rough. You flip flopped off
one t a. It just was rough. It just was
rough all around for everybody. This week. How are you
feeling in general? I like this because I was like
big ten Wisconsin Pete. Now I'm sec Bama Pete. So

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I kind of I kind of like that we're at here.
That's exactly it. That's exactly we uh. We said it
quickly before we started. But you know, it's tough a
couple of injuries, especially in that Viking Saints London game
last week, no excuses. We're gonna return the chapter, like
you said, um this week specifically, so I've done things
slightly differently. I really like the Titans minus three at

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the Commanders, so we're gonna put five units on that one.
I think the Titans Titans what you saw last week
way more focused effort with Derrick Henry twenty two rushes,
hundred fourteen yards touchdown, even got them involved in the
passing game. I think they're they're realizing that's obviously the
work horse they need to get going again. You still
need to see a lot from Tannehill. Losing a j

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Brown becomes more and more apparent. So where does Robert
Wood step up? We'll see. But I think you know,
the ground and pound game that's been working for what
five six seven years now with Derrick Henry, you've got
to get back to that um and the commanders their defense,
the rush defense, specifically middle of the pack, and I
would say they haven't played any outstanding running backs yet.
So get Cowboys, Lions, Jags last couple of games. They

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haven't played that one A kind of guy, so I
think they'll struggle. Washington as a whole just doesn't look great.
So love Titans. Mine is three and I'm putting five
units there. Okay, so ten units overall, half your stack
going to Tennessee. What do you got with the remaining five?
So it's I'm putting two here. But if you want

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to get a little crazy, as as a fan of
customer Lions, over forty five and a half against the
Paths at home, the Lions are literally putting up thirty
five a game. They're given up thirty five a game,
and then you've got the Pats who were given up
twenty four game. That is a recipe for another sixty
point a game like last week where the Lions I

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think they combined from ninety four or ninety two points
something crazy. I just I don't know why this total,
well I do know why this total is forty five
and a half, because Pats are without Hoyer and mac Jones.
But it just seems like the Lions can't stop anything.
And again they're gonna put up even without Alman ros
st Brown a lot of injuries. They're putting up thirty

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thirty five points game minimum. So I don't understand why
you would take the under here, especially when it's only
sitting at forty five and a half. I'd say that
goes up as the week goes on. Public clost at,
the Lions are that wedding cousin. They're a guests. They're
a cousin at your wedding. That's like, oh God, Billy's
had too many. He's not too much. Just someone go
get Billy. Billy's out of control. That's the Lions at

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the wedding. They're just out of control on both sides
of the ball. I like to pick everyone's got a Billy.
I've got like seven billies coming this weekend. I only
say the name Billy because my cousin Billy had a feel.
So I'm not like typecasting all billies. I'm just I'm
pulling from my own experience. It was my cousin Billy
who was the guy who had one too many, So
that's the only reason why I'm pulling from that experience. Alright,

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you can, but we'll see. Yeah, And I was gonna
say a third piece of wedding advice. Don't be billy.
You can't be billy. You have to be the groom.
You gotta be the star. Okay, for your one game
parlay Colts at Broncos. Broncos really struggling last week, they bought,
they lost their best rusher, Davonte Williams, Melvin Gordon struggled,
fourth bumble of the year. And you are going to

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really build up a monster parlay here, Okay, and then
you know, third game. This is another one that's tricky
but doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Vikings
minus Aid at home. The Bears are bad. They are
really really bad. They're the I think the second worst
rush defense. And you got Madison and Cook which seemed
unhealthy and looks like he's good with his shoulder injury

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a plane against that second worst rush defense. I think
the Bears really really struggle on the road at Minnesota,
and they're almost dead last in terms of putting the
points too. So they're putting up something like fifteen seventeen
points a game. I don't see how they keep it close.
I think the game comes down to justin field and
can't he score touchdowns, which just doesn't seem likely. So

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Vikings minus A two units there feel good about that
one as well. Just the Bears are a tough team
to watch. They made the Giants looked great last week,
which is somewhat difficult. Sorry, Jerry, that was a jabbing.
You guy doesn't invite me to his wedding, and then
he's making fun of my favorite football team. All right,
all right, I see, Okay, Then all that is left

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is your famous one game parlay, and you're building a
pretty big one this week for Colts at Broncos. Broncos
struggle last week, giving the Raiders their first win of
the season and losing their top rusher, Davante Williams. What
do you like here? Yeah, so, I don't know if
it's famous yet because I've just missed by one or
two every single week. But I've changed the strategy a

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little it here. So so to your point, Olivia, losing
Javonte Williams, they're obviously going to be a bit more
reliant at home in the passing game. So I think
Russ and the team. You know they tightened ship or
writing ship a little bit. Russ over a hundred seventy yards,
not a lot to ask for their Courtland Sutton first
touchdown of the year. I got him fifty plus receiving yards,

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so I think they get him more involved. Judy thirty
five yards, so again you're really not asking for much
around their two wide receivers, they're one and two. Mo
Ali Cox on the cold side, getting him more involved
last week fifteen yards. Again that's a catcher two, so
again not asking for too much. And then the last
two things more games specific. Broncos minus three and a half,

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I think they win at home. Colts do not look good.
Um and the Broncos over twenty three and a half
so total, I think they put up somewhere between to
thirty points. Looks like Jonathan Taylor may not be ready
to go next week. That toe has been bothering him.
That's a plus five fifty parlay. So lots of appealing
alternate lines, whether it's the alt line on the game,

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the oltline of the points, or the atline on some
of the player props. So I like that. You know,
one unit ten dollars take home sixty five bucks, not
too shabby. So hopefully these work out and this new
strategy pay some dividends. This is why I love that
we're gonna label this one, uh, not asking for too
much single game part like, because the way you laid

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it out, if we would have laid out that case
before week one for the five hundred million, however, many
hundreds of millions of dollars, Russell Wilson's getting paid to
play quarterback with all the weapons he has, we would
have been like, wait, thirty over thirty five yards over
a hundred and seven, like those are no brainers. And
now we've been reduced to saying this is our wh're
not asking that much for this single I think those

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are great picks, but you never know it with with
this is just shocking. The I'm sorry, I'm going on
a tangent here, but you just really it got to
me because you are not You're right, you're not asking
for too much, but that single game parlay at all,
And who the hell knows what's going to happen with
with this Broncos team. Clearly they've cost me some money

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at some points this year. How emotional I'm getting it's crazy.
I mean, you guys talked a lot of about it
a lot in one of your early segments, how great
this division was supposed to be, and we've talked about
it too, and look where we're at now. I mean,
Chiefs have proved to be legit great win last week
on the road, but Raiders look awful, Broncos very very questionable.

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Even the game they squeaked out against the Niners that
put charters barely held the lead against the Texans they
barely had they held on barely. And it's again, it's
like a thirty for thirty. What if I was to
tell you the NFC East it would be the best
team in the NFL, It's like a thirty for thirties.
It is ridiculous. NFL is drunk at the at the

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at their Billy. Yeah. Last week was the Olivia special
that you built. This week is the Pete's Wedding special.
So I think you're going to be a winner. Yes,
So I feel good about it. But there's a little
bit of tension in the room here because there's a
specific game nine thirty Sunday in London, Someone's Giants for
Someone's Pack. The lines at plus eight right now, Giants

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without potentially Daniel Jones without potentially t Mobile Tyrod Taylor.
How do you guys feel about that? Well, we have
a little bit built in of our own. Do you
want to tell them about our bet? Yeah? I got
set up. I'm vulnerable here and basically the loser for
you know, I guess we're honoring all the cheese heads
out there because they're probably gonna win. Has to wear

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for the entire ship? Is this the entire show? I
think has to wear a piece of cheese on their head,
real cheese, not like the little styre foam cheese heads
that we've all loved. Real cheese on their head for
the duration of the entire podcast. I might be starting
se Kwon Barkley as we're starting quarterback, and my lovely
co host thinks that this is just fine, So she

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used to put some stinky ass cheese on head for
an entire like blue cheese, blue cheese crumbles in this hair.
It's awful and it's vulnerable, and I'm gonna totally play
it down because I still think the Giants are gonna win.
But it'll be fine. You just grossed out a lactose
and tolerant guy. So bad here, don't get let's not

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let's not get Pete feeling a little little queasy before
a big day. Buddy, congratulations not only on having an
amazing single game parlay, but also marrying your partner for life.
It's gonna be great, Peter Andrew. Everybody, this is give Stephanie,
I love and everything. Thank you so much, later, buddy,

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all right, Olivia, that's gonna do it for another episode.
Thank you, Ari, Dicky. Awesome interview. Thank you, Peter Andrew.
I'm getting married. It's gonna be awesome for you. Odd giants, packers,
London cheese. Bet, it's gonna be It's gonna be a
good one. You you. I don't like it, but a
good job. Can you smell the JEDDA. I can't wait.

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This is gonna be fun. We'll see you guys. Can't
wait to go to the game. I will tell you
all about it next week. I can't wait.