Introducing: Unrestorable

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm thinking, you know, like what's going on? Like this
is insane? Like where are my kids?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
On September eighth, twenty fourteen, Troy Turner came home to
every parent's nightmare.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I notice Jacob is not in his crib, so I
look in and Sarah's she's not there. So I'm like, Okay,
they're not there.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's been nine years since Troy has set eyes on
three year old Sarah and two year old Jacob. The
State of Maryland has charged their mother, Catherine Hoggle, with
their murders.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
She was in a very small room. She was in
a plastic smock because the police had taken her clothing.
It was obvious to me that there were profound mental
health issues.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But despite signs that Catherine Hoggle took her tiny children
one by one into the night, never to come home again,
she has yet to stand trial.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Believe that part of this is a revenged thing, and
part of it is just her not wanting the responsibility
of being a mother at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Catherine Hoggele has not faced the state's evidence against her
because soon after her children went missing, she was declared
incompetent to stand trial.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Incompetence means that they can't make the various decisions necessary
to assist in their defense, or that they understand.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
What's going on in court.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
We don't try those people for any crime because they
can't defend themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Today, Catherine Hoggle calls Clifton T. Perkins, a psychiatric hospital
in Maryland home doctors says she's unable to assist with
her defense, but questions persist about exactly what Catherine's capable
of and what accountability might look like.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
We have a blueprint to get away with murder in
the state of Maryland at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
In Maryland, if the defendant is found incompetent and can't
be restored to competency, their felony charges are dismissed after
five years. So, as the clock counts down, Catherine's charges
on the verge of being dismissed. What does justice look
like in this case?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
We come from this very puritan kind of heritage in
our culture, and we're very punitive.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It very quickly became she's got mental illness. She probably
halarmed them. Listen to Unrestorables starting October fourth on the
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Speaker 1 (02:34):
The system's broken. I said, something's wrong here. You know,
whenever a one is allowed to kill my two kids,