and Natalie Eva Marie

Natalie Eva Marie of WWE and "Total Divas" fame gets real about her addiction and sobriety, chronicling her 14-year battle to get and stay clean. She talks about meeting her husband, Jonathan Coyle, on the Gram, what happened on their first trip to Vegas, and offers a little wedding advice to LaLa and Randall! Eva Marie also speaks to her WWE and "Total Divas" experience. Plus, LaLa and Randall answer a few more listener voicemails, and share some heartfelt thoughts on the passing of Lakers legend Kobe Bryant. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, gorgeous people. It is La La Kent with Randall
and this is Give Them La La with Randall the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, finally you fucking remember my name. I gotta stop.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Cursing, babe. We got we had notes, but said that
you cursed too much.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh yeah. By the way, I got a note from
the studio that says I say the F wort too much.
So the goal in this podcast I've already failed is
to not curse, so I am gonna wor up. My
mother raised me to not curse. She is very disappointed,
so I'm not going to curse anything.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
When when you read the email to out loud to
me and it was like, hey, just a few notes
like don't curse as much and we were gonna listen
to the episode we did with Jackson Britt, I was like,
oh no, I cursed too much. And then it ended
up being you saying the F word the whole time.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah. I felt Yeah. When I saw the only note
was to me, I actually thought I was getting cut
for the podcast again. But I made it to episode three,
so I'm excited. I'm here still.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And by the way, you're such a rookie that you
have your phone on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Listen, it's with Randall. That's why I'm not a give
them lalla. I'm on the sidekick.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
You're welcome. Turn the damn phone off.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, I did. I just want to tell you that
we we and it is important because we're sitting here
now twenty four hours back from Sundance, and I am
so proud of you. You crushed it. You had the
premiere of your movie, and I think you should talk
about that because that was your first time ever having
a premiere at Sundance, and I was so moved and
so excited for you, as like a kid in a

(01:32):
candy shop. So why don't you tell everybody about that?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
The experience in Sundance was absolutely amazing. I've been going
there for so many years when I lived in Utah,
and I would like pass out goodie bags or like
serve drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
You were, but I mean explain to people like you
were like five dollars six dollars an hour? You know, yeah, no,
had a party, your help.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
We're not making mad money. I mean if you were
making two hundred dollars for the night, you were like,
oh my gosh, I'm rich. But it was amazing and
not only was the experience great, when I went to
the premiere of the film Spree, it was just unbelievable.
It was a great no.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And I'll just when I say like, because I know,
because look, I started as an assistant. I worked, you know,
all these odd jobs to get you know, come up
and babe and try to you know, become you know,
in the business and become successful. And you've done the
same thing, and I don't think people really understand, like
you fit modeled and you worked, you know, hosting gigs
and all that stuff. For you to show up on

(02:32):
a red carpet at the Sundance Film Festival, it's got
to be pretty. I mean, I know what it meant
to you. But I mean I think people, you know,
don't realize how epic that one moment is when you
get it.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Well, it's like when you sit there and you've been
thinking about something your entire life, and you know, things
didn't always.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Go my way.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Of course, I'm so grateful for vander pump roles, but
you have to understand, as a kid, like I was
never thinking I want to do reality TV, right, and
when I signed on to vander Pump, I never wanted
to lose the vision of wanting to become an actress
and working on my craft. Of course, So to go
back to my home state to a film festival that
I've been going to for years and actually have a film,

(03:12):
it was surreal.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And what I what I love about vander Pomp and
I think people know this probably is that it's it's
been such a springboard for you. It's given you so
many cool opportunities, and it continues. So I think that's cool,
you know, And then.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
So you get to like turn I love you vander
Pump Rules plug.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Lisa Vanner Pump. No, but I think I think it's cool.
I think you get to do reality, you get to
go do your acting. Well.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
If someone asked me that rand when when I was
doing press, they were like, so are you thinking like
you're just going to focus on acting and not do
vander Pump. I'm like, we live in a world where
you can do it all. Like I'm not canceling anything out.
I love acting and I love doing vander Pump Rules. Like,
let's rock it all till the wheels fall off.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think it's cool. And now we're here working together.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
But let's talk about one thing. Because I can't not
talk about this. We had an amazing sun dance. We're
living our best life. We're on the PJ on Sunday,
flying from Utah to to Ohio, and we see online
that Kobe Bryant has passed away with his daughter.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, and here here's a crazy thing. And this is
I mean, obviously everybody in the world has been affected
by this. We're on the plane and we get a text,
and I mean we see on our thing it says
TMZ reports it, and you go into that complete denial,
like it's this didn't happen, there's this is bullshit reporting.
And then everybody on the plane starts googling. And within

(04:42):
eleven minutes, eleven minutes from the time we saw the TMZ,
it was everywhere. And that plane ride, that last hour
and a half from when we found out it was
jaw dropping disbelief, heartbreak, by the way, and I just
want to put this out there. I was never a
big sports person, you know that, baby, I mean I

(05:03):
don't even I barely know, but I mean Kobe Bryant
what I've watched, I've gone to a lot of Laker games.
I mean, this is this is the icon of the
hero of basketball, and even myself tears and heartbreak and
emotional and then you and I mean this with love.
And I'm sitting right next to you, and I know
you gonna get upset. And I'm not laughing. I'm I mean,

(05:26):
I have to laugh. I have to find some humor,
but there really is none right now. But I watched
you all night. You couldn't leave the hotel. See you
have tears over your eyes, and I love you and
gonna get me upset now, But I watched you all
night and and and it's just Kobe Bryant has had
the effect on the world that that he's had. You're

(05:48):
sitting here with tears in your eyes right now, and
that to me shows this is a legend that the
world will honor his. And then and then the heartbreak
of the other victims. I love. It's okay, I know,
and I want to say there are other people. Obviously
we know there were, you know, other people on the helicopter.
Other families that are I've watched the news with all

(06:09):
these different families.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Alto with his wife and his daughter, but all of
the victims of.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
This, of this horrific, horrific, but you can't even process
it as somebody like myself who isn't connected to Kobe
Bryant in that way as a family member. I feel
for for the victims, for the families, for the heartbreak,
for the children, and and and and I don't even
know what to say. And I'm watching you with tears

(06:35):
and ears, but I want to say this, Kobe Bryant
and all of the people, but Kobe Bryant, what an
effect he has had on me, somebody who's not even
a sports person. And I'm gonna let you jump back
in here because I want you to. I want you
to share your feelings because you shared them with me
last night, the last two days. Yesterday, sorry, yesterday, you

(06:57):
couldn't really get out of bed. I mean you were
laying in Betterson. I'm maybe let's go to dinner. You said,
I am really in a dark place right now. That's
what you said to me.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, And for me, like Kobe Bryant, when when you
think about like your first love, when you're a kid,
you see someone on TV and you're like, I'm in
love with that person. Kobe Bryant was that for me.
I was a basketball player up until junior high and
like I just wanted to be athletic like him. I
thought he was the most fascinating human being. I used

(07:29):
to google him twenty four to seven. I knew everything
about him. I would make books about him. And I
just you know, the night that it happened, or the
morning that it happened. That night, I just kept waking up,
and you were next to me, and it was just like,
I know, baby, it's okay to think about his wife, who.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, it's left behind to be strong up with him again. No,
and to be and and her daughter led all.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
These people, but that I can kind of the families
lost their sister, their mom and their dad. It's just truly.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, I listen, I listen. I listen to the coach
and and and and I listened to the coach who
lost his wife and has has I think four kids.
And he said, I just don't know how I'm going
to go on without without a wife, without a mother
for my children. I cannot and I cannot and I
and I've shed a lot of tears over this, watching

(08:24):
you and myself just emotionally how catastrophic this is. I
cannot imagine, uh, what these people, how they're going to
pick the pieces up, and I just want to send
prayers to each and every one of them, every family member,
and to the world and to the world for the
compassion that our world has showed these people.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh, we're all getting choked.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's uh, it's it's just it's heartbreak. I just want
to say that, I just everybody. It seems like the
world is coming together over this and and and there's.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Very like cliche to be like, live every day grateful,
but I'm telling you you guys, as someone who has
lost a parent, which I'm sure there are many of
you who.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Have had that.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Sister, just lost a friend, it is earth shattering and
for real, you just have to walk this earth with
your head held high and be so grateful every day moment.
So Kobe Bryant, you will be extremely missed, brother, and
your beautiful daughter, and.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
All the families and all the victims families. We just
send our love, and everybody listening just take off second
and and send your love outside. I'm gonna segue here.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't know how we sege be your note, We're
gonna try.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
YEA.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So we are in Ohio filming a movie called Open Source.
We have yours truly, La La Kent. We have Jesse Metcac,
we have the infamous Bruce Willis, but we also have
the badass of all bad asses. Oh God, Natalie Eva Marie.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh Natalie. Anyway, Natalie. I got to tell you, this
is my second movie with Natalie. We did another movie
called Inconceivable, and that's where we met. And she is
such a talent, first of all, an any woman that's
wrestling and could kick any man's ass.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
She's I did my fitting with her, you guys, and
as she was like putting her stuff on, I was like,
I really need to stop eating Nacho's Belgrande at one
in the morning because that bod that she works on
twenty four second, she's just a freaking athlete, dude.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
She is. It's so crazy because her Instagram, you know,
obviously we're friends with her and we follow her. You know,
I get pissed off because I'm like, dude, I'm like
chunky monkey and I look at her on this Gram
and she's got i mean, like inverted body fat. She's
got inverted body fat. I've got extroverted body fat, like

(10:57):
I have a six pack. I know what's beneath about
the eight and a half pounds of fat on my stomach.
But but the thing is, she is like, I mean,
I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's she works hard, dude, but hardy.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Herd is like hard is like you go to the
gym and you like I, I flex a few times.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
This bitch tells me she's like squatting two hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I'm like, what, Yeah, she told us that. By the way,
I don't even know what that means because I don't
go to the gym. It's obviously clearly looking and I
was like, what is a squat No, I know how
to get the dunkin donuts about.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
That's a me.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
But listen, listen. I give her respect. But here's the thing.
She's gonna bust my balls a little bit because I
call her up in panic when my fat role gets
to be too much. And I okay with that.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
She said it in the car, bro you don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
You don't go to the gym.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You try to eat healthy like stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I made plants. Wait, I made baby, I made plans.
I made plans with all of you to go to
the gym the other day. And here's the thing. I
went to the store and I bought all the ship
I bought the shoes, the shirts. Look in the other room,
I have all the sweatpants.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'll show you the shoes. You're wearing those geriatric motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, that's fucking that's hateful. You're pissing me off. Now
you're doing that bullshit again. Lalla. Those are those are
hookahs or hookahs or hookahs? Those are Yeah, those are
professional running shoes. Why don't you get la la right? No, no, no,
I want to I'm not letting you get off this point.
Listen to me real quick. No, you can't just take
a dig and move on. I want to say something

(12:20):
about my shoes. Okay, okay, we don't all have to
look like a runway model every single day. Sometimes I
want to just feel comfortable. So my hookah shoes or
hookah wherever they're called, are bad ass, and you should
be respectful that I have to walk around a lot
on the set and I need comfortable shoes. I am
not in a runway model show. And second of all,

(12:43):
I have the effort and commitment to work out mentally
up here just physically. My body doesn't go to the gym,
so Natalie, and you need to back off on this
episode and not talking about it.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I've off for a long time, you guys.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
All right, wait, can I ask you a question?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Ask me the question, and I want to get these voices.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
We can I ask you a question. What do you think?
Don't okay this fucking attitude, I't het. Here's tell me,
I am never recording a podcast with you ever again
during your time in the month. I swear on myself.
Never you think I'm joking, I will not do this again. Now,
I want to tell you one thing. I put on
my jeans today, but my loose ones, okay, and they

(13:24):
became skinny jeans. That's a problem. We have a problem, Houston.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
We have a problem.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
So I'm ready for an intervention in.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, should we podcast your intervention?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That'd be no, no, no, I'm not looking to go
publicitive you think.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, honey, I'm an alcoholic. An intervention that kind of
intervention is like child part right. All right, you guys,
we have amazing voicemails. Let's start with number one.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Hi, Lala, Hi Randall. I'm a huge fan of the show.
So my question goes out to both of you. When
you guys first late eyes on each other. What was
the first thought that came through your mind.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's like, let me think about that.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Remember me when I didn't show you my PMS bitch face,
when you've ripped my head off the very first time ever, let.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Me go back in time. I have to really think.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I'll definitely sleep another.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I remember you, Like when I first saw you, you
had like your voice is very sexy. I've always said that,
and you had the face for radio No, but let's
be for real. And then your mannerisms. I was like,
this guy has a lot of swag. You always so
that white guy.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, well you didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, you had mad swag and you were so sweet
to me. And I was like, all right, I need
to hit that. And then I hit that.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah this is what you thought.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yes, and I think this is nice that. I was like,
he's been look is this. I got to hit that,
and then I need to bag that. And after we
were in separate.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
So your line was I got to hit it and
then bag it. Yeah, so that's how you looked at me.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I got to put in that good good so that
I can really you know what that.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Sounds like what, you're robbing a fucking bank.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, you know, it was kind of like, oh, this
is so whacked.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, all right now, I guess that's your what. Well
mine was a little different because I'm a romantic. Oh
tell me, I saw you, and I I felt a
very deep connection to you, and I felt very connected
and I didn't want to be away from you. Oh
I didn't want to hit it and bag it. I mean,

(15:41):
I mean I never ever heard of that. I mean,
you know, what, do me a favorite next time, bab
when somebody asked something like that, can you just drop
both those? Yeah, just say something romantic and then I'll
do the next question and I'll start the answer because
I'm freaked out right now you want to hit and
bag me? I mean it's like hit it and tag
it or bag it and tag it. The question is
Kai Lala.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
I'm a huge fan from Connecticut. I was just calling
in because I was wondering. I know you and randall
got a lot of shit when you first started dating.
For your age different and my boyfriend is significantly older,
and I was just wondering if you had any advice
for dealing with family and friends, which is don't approve it. Again,

(16:24):
huge fans of both of you. I'm so happy that
Rand's on the show, and so congratulations on your wedding. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
This one is a little hard for me because my
family always approved, didn't have that issue. I didn't have that.
My family's very much like I brought home some sketchy
dudes before Rand, and they were like even accepting of that.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay, so but yes, I mean, but the truth is
your family and I met I remember meeting your family.
They were they were as welcoming like they didn't even
there was no they didn't even think. There was never
a conversation about their age.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
They knew if he's good to you, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
But let me but let me give you my advice
because because even though.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
We haven't had parents, we've got a lot of people
that I like a lot. I think it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I agree with that, and a lot of people have
talk shit. But but here's what I want to say.
At the end of the day, in your life, you're
gonna put your head down on the pillow with the
person you love. And if you're living for other people's opinions,
those people obviously have their own issues. And if you
love your man the way I assume you do, and
you put your head down next to him and that's
where you feel the safest, then then you then you

(17:29):
do that, and you do you because at the end
of your life, you're gonna have a smile on your
face and the rest of this.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
They're all going to fall into place, exactly. They're all
going to see you happy. And it may take some time, but.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It eventually goes away. It goes away.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
But if you have your soulmate, the time is worth it.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And let me say one last thing. People talked a
lot of shit, as you guys all know. Baby, I mean, oh.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's like your dad, but you didn't that's my favorite one.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, law, you also didn't help the cause with all
the bullshit you say. I was like, ooh, daddy, all right,
maybe okay, this is the part where I want to
make it. Give them laala without Randall.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
No, you're stuck with me, all right, babe.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But what I'm saying is that a lot of people
said a lot of shit to us, and I think people,
over time, we prove them wrong. And I hope that
you stick with your boyfriend and whatever people give you.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Prove them wrong the fling in the world.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
And I agree, and it's it's just you know what,
people will fall on line and at the end of
the day.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's that I am so when they were like, you
guys are never gonna make it. He's never going to
marry you, and then I was like, that was like
this rigged bitch. Okay again, there's still time for him
to leave me. We better head to the court house.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Okay, let's do this, because I am so excited that
a friend of both of ours and also an incredible actress,
an incredible ww superstar.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Great actress everything, our friend, a sober sister of.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Mine, sober sister of yours, our friend Natalie Eva.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Natalie Eva Maria.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
We knew right off the bat. I was like, we're
having Eva do this because you're a freaking badass. You're
like what you're like wrestling? Then I've read that you
like played soccer. Your body's banging like no.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I can't no hold on man.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
First of all, for everybody that's listening, first of all,
you guys were on like literally location right, I'm doing
a movie with Laala.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
First of all.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Second of all, the full circle of everything. Randall gave
me my first movie, shout out, shout.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Out to out.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
By the way, I gave her first movie Badass. I
was lucky to get you early on, and I just
want to say that we became friends, you and your husband,
and I want to say that now this is full circle.
As you say, we're sitting here in the hotel room
of another production that we're doing together with my fiance.
I mean, this is just cool as shit.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
It is. It's actually very very cool.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Yeah, only that, But I have to say, inconceivable is
bomb so bomb.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
You can watch it on Netflix.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Holler, and it's with Nicholas Cage.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Wait wait wait, and then you just go down that
and then you just go from that, you jump back over.
Now you with Bruce Walls and.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Little stars out here, you're gonna be like the female
version of the Rock Stop it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yes right, yes, yes, so so a couple of things,
because you know, I was intrigued because IVE asked you
one hundred questions back in the day. For sure, I
just want you just get a snapshot of like how
did you be calm? W W fucking because I just
think it's the most intriguing story because people see you
you're a superstar and they think, oh, you just jumped
in a Superstarum no, yes.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Tell us how kind of the evolution short story version
because it's long. Obviously the grind, the hustle is real.
So the the goal was to be a professional soccer player.
So that was like the whole youngest of three boys,
like very much tomboy. But w W came in because

(21:03):
after I finished school, tore my legm into my ankle,
so that dream was shattered, right, So then moved to
LA because I wasn't ready to go and dabble in
the business corporate world. Moved to LA and dabbled in
a little bit of modeling and acting, and I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I like it over here.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
I like like I like this. My dad always being
like when are you gonna.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Get a real job?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You know that.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
So that whole thing, and especially because education to my
parents was like every like it's just like they didn't
they didn't go to college. So it was very much
something that I feel like parents just want to give
whatever they did not have, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
So, and obviously as I.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Get older and older, I really appreciate my parents. Like
day I'm with them, so moved to l A and
like literally was getting just enough gigs to hold on
to the pipe drink just scrap because technically not really

(22:03):
because I was doing the bottle service and waitress, doing
auditioning and during the day doing it off Hollywood dream yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right up, straight up.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
So then all of a sudden, boom w W came
into town and I got and by this time I'd
already been on so many auditions, so it was just
like another one, no big deal, nothing, like I did
not see casting open call, Well I got it.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I was in a minor.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Like boutiquish type agency because I had done a fitness
competition and I want it, so that was like the perk.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, but let me ask question. So you go to
an open call with.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Hundreds hundreds, how does the audition? So I walk into
the HQ right and then I'm looking around and I'm like, oh, holdly, what.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
The I'm like, whoa, This is straight up w w
F that I used to watch with my brothers back
in the day. So then it's starting to like really click,
like what's really going on here?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
And I'm like damn.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Because I shared a room with one of my brothers
and we had bunk beds, so we're dropping, like, you know,
doing the whole deal.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So I'm like, wow, this is wild. So immediately I'm
like on Google.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Right, trying to do a little research, and I'm like, wow,
this actually has everything infused into one spot. So I mean,
at this point in my time, I had nothing to lose.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Now you're on the stage. Audition.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
Audition, got a call back, totally left thinking like, there's
so many girls you know, and like and it's la,
there's so many so you never know.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
And so anyways, call back, call back, call back, in front.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Of multiples, multiple Yeah, there were like four.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
You said, yeah, four and then an interring Uh no,
the fourth one wasn't injuring physicality.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Tryout, Oh my god, how does that work?

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Well, first, let me get to the one I don't
want to go the one prior to that one, I
walk into all the yes men. So those those those
guys are the ones that are like literally hammering me
questions and lights, camera action.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You walk into a room and I'm like this with
a mic standing up there.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
How many people?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
How many dudes were there's uh, there's women in there
as well.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Okay, people waiting for your answer maybe twelve.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wow, that's including cameramen. They're just firing, firing like.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Left and right, left and right, like like literally, you know,
it was It was so wild because I'd never experienced
something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
But I do think God puts you in a.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Place at the right time, right. It's just like timing
in my life and everything. And I was like, bringing on,
let's go because I had nothing to hide. I had
already been through a ton in my life. So and
I have tough skin, like I have all older brothers,
So you don't think.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
They pick on me. I don't think that I got.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Totally you're trying to prove like, no, I'm alpha, I'm alpha.
I'm so it was totally easy, breezy, and I walked
out of there not really feeling like, oh I think
I nailed it or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I just kind of gave it up.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And well, like you said, it was just like any
other audition you had been totally money that. It was
just like another yeah, for.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Sure, checkbox now.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
So then, and it was wild because the separation and
time was insane. It was super long, so like it
was months what so by the third to the in
ring physicality.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Tryout was like maybe two and a half three.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh, at this one, I would think he gets ship.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I would I forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, I would even I forgot about it.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
What I mean completely do you get a phone call?
So I get a phone call?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
And I made it back to the fourth and final audition,
which is in ring physicality and what that means. They
narrowed it down to I believe it was at the
time fourteen or fifteen girls.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, okay, I have a question. I have a question. Well,
first of all, going in, do you feel, not knowing
about this, that you are fit enough for this? Like
were you already an athlete like you are now, meaning
were you still in the shape ready to go?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Fitness was definitely like still a part of me.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
However, when it comes to a sport wrestling, never in
my life except like horsing around with my brothers, you know.
So that was definitely intimidating and scary because I've never
in my life like.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Hit ropes Like what No, that is totally and I
was like intimidated in that manner. But then the first
day it was wild.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
So we're doing like four rolls, backward roles and for me,
I'm a field athlete.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
I like both seet on the floor. So immediately I.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
Was like, what the this is so hard?

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Like it was insane. And then four girls immediately right yeah,
because they're they're not.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
They can't even they couldn't even hold well.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
And like not and I don't if anything, I'm like,
good for you because they're like, yeah, not happening.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm not going to get slapped. Cool, I'm not going
to take a clothes line. No, you want me to
do a back bump, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
So they left on their own.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
They were like yeah, they're like no, no, you're down to
eight or seven now.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Now we're down to I think eight, okay yea, and
how long does this?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
So four weeks?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Four weeks, four weeks of U after a.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Day and they're teaching you literally like.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Keep going.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
You were very wait, actually, you guys, I love your
goddamn podcast.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
First of all, I didn't even say that.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
I didn't even say thank you so much for having
me on, because when I watch or watched, I feel
like I.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Actually visioning you guys.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Yeah, you guys actually need to throw this on YouTube
so people can see it, because they would be that's
another little money little thing, Randall.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
I know you like my nave that, but it is
seriously so good, Like I hadn't seen you guys in
in a minute, and so I just listened to your
little sneak peek, like what's it come, you know?

Speaker 7 (28:02):
And then obviously the first episode and I was like,
oh my god, they're the same, like straight up.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You're like by you love it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
People understand that this is no.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
I know, it is so good to it.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Thank you for being on it.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
It is Oh no, I'm super stoked.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
You're like family. So it's like you already Mexican Italian.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I love to talk, give me a give me a mic.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
We are dropping the mic. Okay here more. Okay, you're
exciting for people because I mean, come on, become a
w W superstar and they.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Don't do the Diva search anymore. They don't know they
took it out. They don't even we're not even called
divas anymore. We're all called w W superstars. Wow, you
know equality, equality you go so now, so.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Now we're in the in in ring part right, and
it's like, okay, each day is obviously different. But the
first like three days after my initial first week, I
literally cannot lift my like I was staying with at
the time when I got the job. I was living
with my girlfriend and she had those little baby gates
or the doggy gates or whatever because she.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Had little dogs.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
I could not get over it. I had to lift
my leg with my that's how bad. And new muscles,
all new muscles that were being worked that I had
never in a million years even thought I even had.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Wow, So it was insane.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
But anyway, so basically, you do the in ring, try
out to see if you can handle the physicality and.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
If they like you and see potential.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
And all that really promised you was you could hopefully
at the end get a developmental deal. You got a shot,
a shot right to learn how to wrestle. They take
the acting classes, create your character will help guide you.
And then you're also traveling and doing live shows for
like ten people, setting up a ring like doing the deal.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
So that's the development. It's a grind. It's a grind.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
So then after those four weeks, that's what everybody's trying
out for, that's what everyone's.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Hoping for, just that development. Yes, okay, four of us
got it.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
The developmental contret so you're cell right, and that's a
big deal. I'd i'd be off the chop the charts.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, all like so like life changing. This was everything.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Meanwhile, I had met Jonathan now my husband, four weeks,
five weeks before I started my in ring physicality.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh so two months you've been dating at this point, right,
four or five weeks before?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Four week probably now three months, two two months.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
So I met him like right, like literally right before.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Just because he's, by the way, the nicest human being
on the planet. And another, by the way, those of
you that don't know Natalie's husband, you look him up
on the ground. Okay, dude is shredded superstar like superhero
Superman again, not like my jelly rolls, but nicest guy

(30:50):
on the planet. Nice. I love him, And I know
he's your business partner. And you guys, you guys have
a huge brand company and all that stuff. But but
go ahead, so how did you guys meet?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
We met actually on the gram.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
He has a whole nother story like how how I
went down, But basically it started with a like and
this was and this was right before Instagram, but you
couldn't even DM anybody, and and and you couldn't. Uh,
Instagram was only four Apple phones.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Do you remember that? I know that I didn't know.
I didn't. I got it late late the game.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
So it was like super brand, like super I remember
how many followers he had because I was like, who
is he had twenty five k and I was like.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Who is he?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I had?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I had? I had, I had five? Yeah, see you doubles? Okay, baby,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
So I saw all of a sudden, I saw this
dude that I had never seen before, like a couple
of photos and they weren't like the thirst photos of
like bikini like nah, it was it was the book
the Five Level Languages.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Can I tell you? He liked the fact that I
posted probably didn't have his many likes, so he's like,
I got to like the ones because then she'll notice.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Something he had. Ye jan smart.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
That's why I literally married the guy because he's smart.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I know him. I don't look at thinking, yeah, it's
all up here besides the fact that it's a flawless physique,
but yes, the guy is very upstairs.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Oh he's going to love you guys for this.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
He's going to be like, yeah, make sure you tune into.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Love.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
But so that's kind of how it went down.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
And then he likes linked up shot me his email
in a comment, and then we were emailing back and forth.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
No, we might not actually across the gym.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Real, so ship, I would never meet it a freaking
gym for a day because I couldn't get through six.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
When I was dating. If you weren't giving me alcohol,
I wasn't showing up.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, well that okay again, things some things could be
left unsaid. Thank you very much for that, la la okay.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Question.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
When you were auditioned to WW, were they casting that
you know of four Total Divas? Were they looking for
the next Total Diva?

Speaker 7 (33:12):
No, so I did not know of Total Diva, so
that all kind of goes into the same timeframe. So
they were casting at that time, but they did not
make it like public. It was more in house. So
WW was trying to decide whether or not they already
had who they were going to have on the cast.
So they really only needed two more girls, and they

(33:33):
were originally going to bring up two NXT girls up
on the main roster as well as be a part
of Total Divas. Then I have no idea where the
shift happened. But the shift happened, thank God in my favor.
Else I want to be sitting where somebody somehow said,

(33:54):
you know, what would be great is to have two
brand new girls, fresh that know nothing about the business.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
How long wa WD are you a developmental girl? When
they make this call?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I got my job within forty eight hours, so I
got my developmental deal. So they got offered four.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
So I told Jonathan like, oh my god, kay whatever
you know, like, I got it, I got it, I
got it. Then I get a call saying, hey, by
the way, since you live in La, do you mind
going in on this audition slash interview can't really tell
you exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Is that in the other And I was like, yeah, sure,
so I go in.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's being a Murray, so everybody knows Murray's makes road
rural road rules.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Kardashians, Kardashians. That's all you got it, That's all I
gotta do, say.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Murray, the original, original and real World, the pioneer of reality.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Totally there.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
You go. Tell us because when I met you at
your agent William wore Brad a mutual friend, he had
told because he represents the rock ye and brought the
Rock up. Just tell me kind of your Rock like

(35:05):
relationship history, like it's cool like whatever mentor whatever it is.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
It honestly like the whole WWE kind of experience. I
guess how I walked into that specific job at that
specific time was all I guess.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I don't want to say dream because that's so cliche.
It is, but it's so not like it will not
happen again.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
So some like to someone when they don't do the
Diva searches number two Total Divas is on.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
It's probably way out right.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
As long as vander Pump eight eight Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Okay, so that world is different today. But came into
it like the Rock was just like like just explaination.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
No, he wasn't because he was already transitioned, so he
was never.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
On the road.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yes, she had John Cena.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
John Cena was on the road with us wow constantly.
So he was the only one. Rock would only come
back like radical exactly for like a big moment.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
What do you mean, like you're you're you're an actress
or a brand, a wrestler or everything, and the Rock
shows up twenty million dollar movie stars slash wrestlers. Does
he just come to hang out with you and like
shoot the ship. Do you go to the gym and
pump iron? Do you lift weights? What do you do?

Speaker 7 (36:16):
I mean not when I was there. I mean he
might have been. He might have, but not my days.
My days is he has his you know, room, and
he it's like social to get in and do his
job and then get out because Simon is money and
he's busy totally. So I remember like passing out a
WrestleMania and I'm this when I passed Brad.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
But I didn't know it was Brad at the time.

Speaker 7 (36:41):
And that was like the first time that I said hello.
So it was like an awesome like just a normal
encounter instead of you don't want to be like.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
You want to be door, No, I don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, you don't you.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Don't genuine totally interest. Sure, please take me or pick
get it.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I really get that for sure.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
So I was like, you know, lucky enough to just
like even coincidentally run into Rock and then it was
Brad and then kind of like a little bit of
entourage guys that happened to be because he was performing
for WrestleMania got to introduce say what's up hello, introduce
myself and kept it pushing. But then like but then
I think about four or five months later, I get

(37:24):
a call. I'm doing a shoot and it's our I
can't remember her position. I think it's public relation maybe,
but anyways, gives me a call and says, hey, even
would you take a meeting with this guy Brad Slater?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
And I'm like, you're like what After.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
We got into w W, that's when like business started
really like like no, no, no where Jonathan and I
really wanted to utilize the platform.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yes, because it's like.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
So that's where you started saying let's try to brand.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
Yes of course, yeah, right, well and not only that
going into w W as well, Jonathan is smart and
he with my contract he was he helped you totally
where like I had my whole website and everything. That's
why I was able to have my name and stuff
like that, which is alous.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It's like it's like I I created la There was
no LAA before.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's what they all think.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Definitely getting voted getting voted off Mom and my dad.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
There you go, Hey.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I'm getting voted off the island.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
You're getting voted off the island with Laala.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Give them.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Okay, wait get back to wait back the business.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
We can go back to business. But there's a big
question that I have. Yes, at what point in your
life did you say I got to get sober?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
M m oh into I got sober when?

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Well, first, I was raised so in a really really strict,
strict household. So once I ended up leaving my parents,
that was almost like where it was like all bets
are off where I'm like, wait a minute, I don't
have a curfew, like it is poppin' right, and then,
you know, bad decision after another.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I got into, you know, a lot of trouble.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
And then my oldest brother actually ended up getting sober,
and he basically in a sense I always looked up
to him, so I was like, damn, well, I mean
if he's doing it, and I'm I'm I was depressed
and my life was like you know, I was throwing
it literally away, and I was not raised the way
that I was. Some of the decisions that I was

(39:46):
making where you know, for anyone that's listening to, like
especially parents and stuff like I feel so bad to
this day, like.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
My parents are rock stars, They're my everything. They they.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
Had no like input in the sense of like where
they should feel bad because a parent is always going
to feel bad if their child's not.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Doing well, wealthy right, maybe they had done something wrong total.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Or something or didn't do went left or right, whatever
you want to say, you know what I'm saying. And
he addiction runs like deep in my family too. So
I got sober originally at twenty three.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Wow, you were young.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
That's a baby.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So that what that means that she had a really
good time from fifteen to twenty three, I would.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Say eighteen to twenty three when.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
She moved out once I moved out to my parents.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, okay, And I have to make light because obviously
I've been with Laala, you know for a long time,
and and and and you know, I've been through her addiction.
My dad's sober like twenty plus years, so he runs.
It runs in my family. Yeah, but I gotta say, so,
when you got sober that young, similar to her, because
she got sober late twenties, what was the challenge and

(40:59):
what got you through being staying sober? Because you I've
read quotes from you where you say most people fail once,
but don't give up, like so what, so what does
that mean.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
It's kind of like one of the things where I
know that I put a lot of like because I
work a program, like I work a twelve step program,
so I feel like I infuse that in a lot
of aspects of my life.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
So if you fail.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
So when I first got into a or my program,
I do the whole deal. I have a sponsor, I
sponsor women, I go to meetings. It sucks, it's super annoying,
it's super hard. It's so it's I'm not it's so
like not what I want to do. I never want
to go to a meeting, but I always feel better after.
I never want to, Like I love all my girls

(41:44):
that I sponsor, but like a lot of times I
want to be like not doing yeah, because of course,
because that's like I don't want to lose what I
have now, because I never want to go back to
the dark moment.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
That that I used.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
To dabble in, you know, But it is, it's it's
definitely that's why they always say, like a simple program,
but it takes a lot of hard work. But in
how I infuse it into all aspects of life is
we're going to fail, We're gonna get told no so
many times, like I've gotten told no way more than
I've ever been told yes. So it's it's just making

(42:23):
sure that you do all the cliche ship we always hear,
get back up, keep going, believing in yourself and kind
of like keep.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
The engine going totally.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
But I think I was super cocky too, and I
was like, I'm never gonna relapse. I'm like, what these
people are crazy, like super judgmental like this, I am
not one of these, like you know what I mean.
On my little poney, So I lasted three years?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
What yep?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
So I lasted three years?

Speaker 7 (42:51):
And I called up my sponsor, who is still my sponsor.
Now from the beginning, I've noted for like, damn fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Wow, that's amazing, so.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Would technically I should be celebrating thirteen. She's about to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Fourteen, so I can three years sober.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
So I'm three years sober.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
I call her up, MO, I love you so much,
thank you for everything, because sometimes as well as you know,
like you know the promises that if anybody doesn't know,
like if you work a program, certain things are to
happen in your life, like normal people get like I
got my license back.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Good thing. Yeah, I started paying taxes, you know what
I mean, like a normal like.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Lowood like Lala was like like once she got sober
and God bless her. I tell her every day her
biggest accomplishment in life will be this. Sure and thirteen
fourteen months she's been sober. I mean fifteen eighty see,
but fifteen months been definitely. Miracles have happened daily, weekly,
and she acknowledged.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
So I, hey, that's what they say. They say, don't
leave until the miracle happens.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Legit like as that is you're preaching that big book.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
Okay, three years in and so I start like, obviously,
you know, getting my life back. I'm feeling good, like
being great. And so I called him and I was like, oh,
I love you so much to thank you for everything,
but I'm good. And she's like, what do you mean good?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Like what?

Speaker 7 (44:16):
And then she's like, well, you know, I don't suggest this,
but okay, sure enough. Within like nine months, I think,
I like white knuckled it or so they say, that's
a phrase. I guess without working a program, without having
a sponsor, just like living like just a sober dry

(44:37):
they called right.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, And within nine months.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
Just it was just like on and popping, like once
I had a little it was just.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Like I never stopped. So then I was out for
like two years, for two years and we're really bad.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Rehab rehab, and then never that was it.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
No, And then so I met Jonathan straight out of rehab.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Wow, I know this is like kind of mic drop stuff.
I haven't dropped any of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But this is the stuff I think that that matters
because all the other ship, like you know, success and
all that, but this is the stuff that I think
people like Laala gets so many so much love for sobriety,
you know, and and I give her more.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Kind of love's ever given.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
She she loves that. Let me ask you a question.
Jonathan is sober not sober.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
No, he's a normy. So we got on Friday.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
We pay the next day.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
This is what I love about normies. You can go
out and get drunk and the next day you'll be
like I'm done for a minute, like you had a
good time. It's like I got sucked up last night.
I better get it pop in so I can say normal,
Like we.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Went to Sunday. We went to Sunday. This is just me.
We went to Sundance Alie to sit here. We went
out and was it Friday Friday? And we got back
to the house whatever, like two o'clock and we sat
in the kitchen and continue to drink. And then I
woke up the next day and I said to God, please,
where's the ivy doctor? Brought the IV doctor in? Oh,
got that. Then I had to go to tubing and sled,
followed by bloody Mary and then and then and then

(46:03):
I said, Okay, I'm good for like two or three months.
I don't need to have another, you know. Now It's
like right, no me? So yeah. The fact of like,
but but I what I'm saying is like I just
but I was with Law and obviously in her dark,
dark phase, I've never seen Listen, she's a little person,
you know, I've never seen somebody. She would get mad
at me. She would say we wereround. This is I

(46:23):
didn't understand until it got really really bad. She would
say to me like I'd say, babe, can we go home? Now?
It's like twelve thirty sep. You're a loser. Your drink
is half full. Nobody leaves a drink on the table.
A loser leaves a drink on the tail. I mean
it was it was a dark, dark, dark place. And
now now she's like, Babe, can we watch Friends today?
That teven fifteen?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Because I go to sleep at eight and go to
restaurants that that don't have alcohol.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, normally I would would sure, why would we go here?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
She would not know?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Everyone else around me is like, they don't have alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
They've given your line my favorite line when the waiter
always comes to you and says, do you want to
drink tonight?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Tell them what you say or if you if you
don't want your restaurant burned down?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
You know, because seriously, same light.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
And ship up.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
If you give me alcohol.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
One hundred percent, lames are happening, games are going down,
We're kicking through doors like you you know, it's what
you want totally.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
So then right out of rehab. So then I don't
tell him. I don't know, I know, how could I
like all of a sudden, don't do this anybody that's listening.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
But in my in my head, I'm thinking, like, there's
no way that, like the first couple of days, I'm
gonna be.

Speaker 7 (47:42):
Like, oh, by the way, I just got out of
rehab and this is uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I'm rock solid over here. You know, I have.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
To laugh only because as somebody who's been and lived
through an alcoholic partner.

Speaker 7 (47:59):
Yeah, you know you for sure I could laugh now
because we went we through it, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
And you're standing here totally to inspire people. And by
the way, I have to laugh because I know that
both of you inspire people all over the world to
be sober, to be healthy if they if they need
that real.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I'll tell you what if that's the only thing I
ever do in my life, yo, to inspire someone. I agree,
and like I that is.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Not only that, but because I think too for females,
and I feel like there's this like stigma with girls,
especially for just alcoholism or addiction in general. Like I
feel like I don't know why, but I feel like
I talk about it a little bit more. But with Jonathan,
I think the best thing that happened to me. So
I didn't tell him right and we ended up how long,

(48:49):
I only lasted a few weeks because his best friend
was getting married.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh yeah, it's a good song his I know.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
I wish Jonathan was here because he would he would
literally tell you verbatim, because I there's moments that I
obviously don't remember. But so his best and I've only
known Jonathan, mind you, maybe we've gone on a couple dates,
that's dates, and so this is like the first time

(49:20):
that I'm actually sleeping over to. So like, uh, obviously
it was like a joint hotel room and stuff, but
still first like yeah, and like meeting his best friend
and his best friend's wife and all her friends and stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
So I'm like, oh, yeah, so where do they go?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Vegas? Cool?

Speaker 5 (49:40):
God?

Speaker 7 (49:41):
Yeah, So I'm not even thinking anything of it, right
because of course not. So we get we get.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
There, first night. Cool, well, no, first night.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
We get into the room and everybody starts doing a
round of shots around to Jack and so in my
head it's like, you know, the devil, the devil Nat
and then the angel Nat. The devil, the one that
always wants to take me down. She's a tough cooking man.
She is a tough she wants to take me out
every day. I'm like, I'm like, stay down, like dang,

(50:16):
Like she is tough. So she's strong and she just
she's strong armed, and I've ended up.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Okay I did. So then but now, but so I
took it down.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
How long have you point?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
She just got out of rehab at.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
This point, I most probably maybe three and a half four.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
Oh, okay, so I was fresh, right, so you would
think that it would be fresh in my brain, like yay,
you just what's wrong with you? And I paid rehab
for myself, so I it was a pretty penny.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
So I took the hit too where I'm like, what's
wrong with you? But addiction you do crazy things. So
first night, everything's good, have some drinks, we go out
to the club.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Everything's fine. Come back the next morning, I'm like, hey.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
I was cool, like last night, right, like right, And
he kept thinking, but he was no, I did, but
kind of vaguely, but I still wanted to get that reassurance.
So he was like, yeah, everything was cool, it was good, good, good, Okay.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
This is a like m.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
I don't know, I can't remember exactly what time in
the morning. And then so that night comes, we go
out on and popping. It's like now one, two, three
in the morning. We go to some little buffet and
it's like all you can drink Mimosa's or something. So
I start going in there, go back to the room.

(51:48):
I think we fell asleep for like an hour, and
then all of a sudden, I woke up like a
bright idea and it was a pool party for her
like her, which is girl so terrible like impression. Yeah,
I decide cool, I almost start early. Yeah, it's six am,
so I down an entire bottle of jack, no.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
The dome, an s higher bottle of jack.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
That's like you would have had a lot of fun together.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So Jonathan he hears me, he's sleeping. He hears me
like all of a sudden, I'm all light loud.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
I'm naturally loud anyways, so now I'm like yes, like
he comes out like and he like looks at me,
and I don't recall this, but he did like a
double take because he's.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Like, wait a minute, it's seven she is she drunk?

Speaker 7 (52:44):
So anyways, long story short, we end up going to
that party.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I am like eighth, just a disaster like extensions kind
of like falling out of my head.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yes, yes, like bad.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
He called my mom and was like, like, your daughter.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Has an alcohol problem or moms like she just got
out of rehab. My Mom's like I know.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Tells ever tells him everything and now what does he do?

Speaker 7 (53:13):
And now he's basically stuck because I'm obviously he's not
going to be a jerk and just say boom me
out the room.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You know.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
So the next day or no, later on that night,
I like totally sober up and he basically like looks
me in my face and gets kind of crazy, and
I felt like a little kid where I was like, yeah,
all of a sudden, I was like, oh, my best
behavior for because we still had like thirty six hours
left at the trip.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh man, this is.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
So those thirty six hours.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
He is a rock star. Yeah, I know, I mean
to handle this because I thought anybody else would have
been like, here's your Southwest ticket, here's the driver.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Totally.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
One hundred person we're going to get through. So well
he wasn't that nice. But but those thirty six hours
I was like, no, no, hell no, I wasn't need
that day.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yes I was.

Speaker 7 (54:14):
I actually was, because he said we had like a
big because everything was changing, so I had.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
It was actually right before my w W tryout when
that happened to.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
So god girl, yeah, this is yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Could you imagine me drinking?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Well, well, none of that would you would have made
it through. So that is God's way because you after that,
I assume you both you get you know he he.

Speaker 7 (54:40):
Gets ober, Yeah, because he he kind of in a
sense gave me an ultimatum if I wanted to continue
to date him or see where this relationship was going.
There was no way I would have to go back
to the way that because obviously my mom let him
in on I worked a program. She was sober, right,
So he told me that, and then that's when I

(55:01):
was like, all right, well that's it, that's from there.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Got you've just done. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
It took me probably a little bit to hop on
and like I had to put my tail between my legs.
Call Mo my sponsor, because there was no way that
I was going to have a new sponsor and put
all my dirt out on the street like that.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
No, I was like, I was like, no, no, no, Mo, Hey,
hey take me back. You already know how much up
high She knew it. She did, and so she picked
up phone and.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Literally a story. I mean, now I have now when
I see John that to give him like so much
more love, because you look at somebody's spouse just like
they look at us, and they don't know what. Nobody
knows what anybody's been through, like for sure, and relationships
like look if you look at Lala and I and
they look at us and they're like, you know, oh
their course and they fly on, it's all bullshit like
at the end of the day, you know. And that's

(55:57):
why I love this podcast because people get to see
how we are. I give Jonathan mad love and respect
because you know, I had been through it with her
for a long time. Again, she tricked me for a
long time because I didn't know she had like a
full alcoholic.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
I tried to trick Jonathan, but.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, I didn't. He was quicker. He was quicker. He
was because already got out of Rehabit was a quicker
like heads up. Lala was just more like I was.
Like she would hide the day drinking, for sure. So
when the day she would.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Wake up and you're not down a party like that,
well then I'll just this in my coffee cup and
we'll call it good.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Right one day, and then one day she was a
little off in the morning. This is kind of the beginning.
One day you were a little off in the morning.
We were swimming in the pool and it was like
nine am, and I was like, you sound a little
off you Okay, I was already I was already onto
her at that point, and I said, let me, let me.
She put the cup down, I grabbed it and took
a sip.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
No, you didn't know, you didn't. I remember this vividly
ident and I was so knocking threw over the what
happened the pool? Going to let him have a tape?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
It was vodka. She threw it over the balcon of
the pool. And then at that point, you.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Know, it games up, games up, her.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Last, her, her last whatever, what do you call it?
Your last day out?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, my last hurrah.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
She she got on the plane we're coming back from
a Disney.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
World, which I was black out the whole time.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And why didn't I didn't. I didn't even see her
because I was. It was so bad and I just didn't.
It was so bad that I for me at that point,
it was kind of the disconnected. It was the end
of our relationship, in my opinion. I'd written her a
letter and said that this is I can't do this anymore,
and if you can figure it out, I'll be there
for you, but for now we're done. And so I've
written this letter. So we got home. I was going

(57:38):
to read it to her, but we got on the
plane and and and uh and I remember she.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Had a bottle of was it Tennessee?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Tennessee?

Speaker 1 (57:45):
All I cared about drinking.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
From the morning all the way together the plane and
got on the plane. She's like out of a rap video,
you know, in her hand, and she drank herself until
she's passed out. And it's when she passed out, I
wrote this letter. And and then you know it came home.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Oh, don't get emotional.

Speaker 7 (58:02):
I know it's super tough because it's one of those
things like that's why it's it's nice to laugh and
joke about it, because it was such a dark and serious.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
While for me to be able to have him look
back on it.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I couldn't laugh for a long.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I was like, I'm so ashamed of that. Like for
sure now we look back on it.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
But I'll tell you something there was like there was
like yeah, I also didn't believe like because I was
ready to be done with, you know, with everything, and
there was and there was so when when she walked
to my office that day, I was gonna read the letter,
she said, you know, I'm an alcoholic. She had never
said that before, and so then I said, okay, obviously
I'm not going to turn my back on somebody. That's
so I was like, okay, let's go play this game.

(58:46):
Because she told me she's gonna stop righting. So we
and and and and I, you know, go where you
party and have a fun night. A couple of lines.
This is a different thing. This was seven days. But
so I wrote it out and I had such resentment
and such anger. So when she got sober, I couldn't
let it go. And so there was a couple months
and and to just say a love story short. When

(59:08):
we went to a.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Meeting, you know, I called him. I was like, which,
keep in mind there were many times where I would
tell him meet me.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
She she couldn't show up, She'd fall down. It was mortifying.
I couldn't make plans. I'm talking about at the end
when it got really early.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah, but then I was like, hey, I need you
to meet me a meeting. I was like, they're early.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
So she said, like seven o'clock. She said seven o'clock.
And I'm like, this is another like and there's about
thirty days in and forty days in and I show up.
She's standing out front, like at six forty five waiting
for me, couldn't wait to walk be in there, two
steep people, and I'm like, what is going on? I'm confused.
She could even make it some days, and so that
was probably the beginning for me and the excite. And
then and then about ninety days in or six days in,

(59:52):
when it still had a lot of resentment from things
that had been done, she she said, look, you you
have to make a decision, like like you can't like
either you have to like be with me and forgive me,
or you have to like walk away, because you know
you can't. And I did a lot of soul searching,
and my soul searching was that I can't punish somebody

(01:00:12):
who's in recovery either. I have to go off on
my own and be away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
And I told him that because for me, it was
like at that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Moment, you had given me a lot of time and
I but I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Also told him, I'm like, my recovery is more important
than you right now, my family, because I'm not helpful
to anybody. If I pick up a drink and I'm
already beating myself up, like I can't have.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
You totally because there's so much that you like you
you bury and then not only that, when you and
it has to at some point through recovery, it's going
to surface and it's going to come to light and
you're going to walk through it. You're going to get
through it, and it's super painful and you're it's it's
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
But eventually forgive yourself the addiction. And I also, you know,
have been through you know, my own recovery, not for alhostuff,
but like in life, just to work on myself and things.
I've totally and I'll tell you that. The final note
here I'll say is that like I woke up after
that and I kind of spent some time with myself
and I said, either this is the woman I love

(01:01:13):
and look at her. I've got the best version, or
I need to go on and move on. Because our
relationship was, you know, it was struggled for a long time.
And that's when we I think we finally just put
it together and we said, look, you know, in the beginning,
our relationship you know, was what it was. It was
not perfect at anyway, but now let's go try to

(01:01:36):
create a great relationshipship. We work every day and we're
still learning things about each other. But you know what,
like any relationship, we try to talk through things and
we try to work through things, right, babe. But I
am very proud, Like I tell her her greatest concimence.
I don't give a shit about TV shows, and I
don't care about movies, and I don't care about money
she makes and all the things that she does her
sobriety will be her greatest accomplishment. I give her a

(01:01:59):
matter respect. I love you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Jonathan says the same thing, yeah, because and I think
it was so a monumental moment for him to actually
see what a change in me, because it's really hard
for somebody that does not understand either alcoholism or addiction,
for somebody to say that I am and not get
it because they're normal, so they don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
The severity of like the disease.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
So for him to actually witness full point blank like
this face in his face, just like wait a minute,
this is And then who like doctor Deckel and mister Hyde,
like that's who different people like you're cool?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
This is I don't even know what this is, right, Like,
who are you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Ag? I feel like I feel like our relationship honestly,
and I don't describe it things, but you know, we've
had a lot of hills and valleys. I feel like
the last year was really where it came together. Like
that's where our relationship. Our relationship before that was was
crazy and you know, break up and you get sure
we just were nuts. And now now I have somebody
who's like, Babe, you'll be here at eight o'clock and

(01:03:03):
you'll be here sharp, and I show up seven minutes later.
She's like, I said, a babe, I'm like, who are you?
It took me about six months to realize that I
better show up. Yeah. So I love her for that.
And you're an amazing badass badass woman, uh to do
what you've done, and and you both are women who
are like super successful and on top of the world

(01:03:24):
and to be sober in the world you're in. I
give you mad Cross because our world, you know, is
not an easy world to operate, you know, sober, so
real quick, So we're as we end this because this
will be our longest podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
Can do I know we all talk for I know
your summers just storing in the circus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Real quick question and wraps up now, you know, because
you're coming to our wedding April eighteen.

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Wait before you ask the question, I have to say
because it was too it's too sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
To even let it go. But going to your guys'
engagement party.

Speaker 7 (01:03:58):
The first thing that he had said to me was
how proud he was of you because of your sobriety.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
And you were and you were pretty fresh and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So really fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Yeah, yep, so that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
I mean, you're got sober in October another part, and
I was in December.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, it was. It was like sixty less than sixty days. Thanks,
and he was already proud.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:04:20):
And I told you how much iran any wedding advice
for us, because it's a nightmare and I never want
to ever have to answer another question from my mother,
her mother, or the wedding planner about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
A freaking We've been enduring our mom all day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Listen, a freaking tulip or a freaking point a tablecloth.
Put the friggin paper tablecloth on the friggin table. I
don't give a shit. What do what do you do
under the pressure.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
I'm literally the worst person asked because I was on
the road so Jonathan and my mom did everything.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Wow, you're so lucky, I know. And then then.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
I can't wait, we technically eloped really quick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Wow you are so smart, just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Because it was crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
But then I'm the only girl, and like I said,
a Mexican is telling ya, we did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I had to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
And then had the wedding, but they didn't really know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, yeah they can't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Just so bad. Then your so we don't we don't
ever talk about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Now it's out, Okay, Well.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
It was no, no, no, no, it was out because the
total division like kind of showed it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
And then we got married on the show and had
the big.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
Yeah at my band. There's a Mariachi band at my wedding.
If you don't think I'm Mexican. Jonathan was like, oh
my gosh, there's got to like what is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I tell everybody like, if you could be a part
of any culture in the world, I'm like, make me
a part of the Mexican culture, dude.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
How many tell me, beautiful? How many guests were Jonathan's
thirty five? How many guests were my side of the family?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
How many?

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
How many?

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
Two hundred and two and twenty five, and I was like,
skimming back, that is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
A gang You're a real gangster, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
No Mexican will be having too many babies.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
They're like Mormons.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Damn, my mom's one of thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
That's amazing, dude. I'm so happy that you came on
a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
No, I love you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I love God know that, and we love working with you.
But we also love being family with you. Guy. Yeah,
really are become family to us, and you really. I
love the story today because the sobriety hearing it, you know,
from you and and obviously knowing her story is really inspiring.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah, thank you for opening up to us. And again,
you guys, we love to hear from you. So make
sure you hit a boy and a Girl up at
eight six six La La Pod. That's eight sixty six
La La pod. Even Marie, you are the shit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
I love you, guys. Thank you