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December 8, 2025 12 mins

Frankie Grande reveals his pick for the worst (and best) ‘Big Brother’ houseguest, and the answer may surprise you. 

 

Plus, the reality show he is eyeing next, and YES his merriest memories with Ariana are as magical as you think they’d be!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to untraditionally Lala. Hello, gorgeous, Welcome back to untraditionally Lala.
The Boner episode I'm with Frankie Grande, I had people
write in to ask you some questions. Oh, I love this, Yeah,
we'll keep it right, We'll keep it tight. What is
your favorite memory from your time on Big Brother?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Ooh. I really really resonated with when Kathy Griffin walked
into the house because I was a very queer man
in a very straight house with all straight people, and
I forgot that I had a community. And then when
that homosexual icon walked in, I was like, Okay, thank Lord,
oh my god, Gathy Griffin and every of course, every

(00:46):
single person in the house was like who is that?
And I was like what dusting people? Yeah, they were
all straights, No one kne who she was, and yeah,
well I died. And I felt like it was a
gift just for me, and it gave me enough energy
to get through the rest of the show. Literally, I
was like, oh, thank god, I forgot that I was gay.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I forgot that I was Okay, this is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was like, I'm turning straight. With all of you people.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
E you know, I you is right.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I only feel comfortable in this time in my life
with girls and.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Gays love it like the best.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Anything outside of that community, I don't want it. I
don't know how to approach it, like I'm good. So
I'm glad that you find that you felt like, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Here we go. It's a reminder I have community.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, exactly, that was exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Would you ever go on Traders? Have you watched Traders on? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, I would, and I shall, and I love. They
have to just call me, guys, I'm ready, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, they have to have you on.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I have to do it. I have to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I was never a big like I'm so into reality,
but like the competition shows, I was never really that into.
I just gave traders a chance and was like, oh
my god, I understand the hype.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's great, and I would. I would eat it up.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Would you be a good trader?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Late?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think I would be a good trader, But I
think I would be a good faithful too. I just
think i'd be good at the game. So okay, done,
let me put my money where my mouth is.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Boom, boom.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh my god, I really want you on it. Okay,
favorite childhood memory with Arianna if you can pinpoint just one.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, let me try to think of one. We had
such a wild age gap because they're ten years apart,
so I'm like trying to think of like ones that
were like later in life, because like all the ones
in the beginning are like running on Disney and like
the monorail together yesterday. Uh what was my favorite? Mar
We have so many good memories. We're so silly together.

(02:53):
I think probably one of my favorites was when she
showed me her looping machine for the first time, when
she was like, ooh, I want us maybe like fourteen
years old. I have a terrible memory, but she showed
me her looping machine, which was what Image and Heap
uses to create her vocals and stack her harmonies. And
the first time she showed me what she could do live,
which is what Image could do live. Like I think,

(03:14):
I like, like, I think I passed out. I was
like Arianna, what the fuck? Like, how are you this
fucking talented? And it was just a moment that I'll
never forget. One other one is when I told her
that I am also Image Heap just inspired me when
I told her I booked Mama Me out on Broadway.
I got the call in a room with my mother

(03:35):
and my sister, and we started doing the high note
whistle tones from Image and Heap's album and together and
trying to go higher than each other. And it was
just also just a wonderful, giddy, giddy moment. She was twelve. Yeah,
that was fun.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I love these memories.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah. Fun.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So, cause ten years is a significant age gap. When
did you find that you guys like really got close.
I'm like, I my oldest brother, so I'm thirty five.
He is close to turning fifty, and I feel like
he and I really started bonding once I hit like
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah. I think we had a really good period in
like her early teens, and then I think my drinking
and using made me like kind of like disappear from
the family dynamic for a hot ten year maybe hot decade. Yeah,
and then I think our we're closest now than we've
ever been. We've closer now than we've ever been in

(04:33):
her entire lives.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Once you got sober, you found that it was different.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, Yeah, it just was. I mean every everything was,
but especially my familial relationships because I was a putting
the effort into rebuilding the bridges that I had burned,
and also be like I could like fucking have a
normal conversation totally. I could be fucking cool for like
a second and not be like like twitching because I'm

(04:57):
like trying to get Jones in for my next hit.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I so relate to that. Yeah, there are so many
times I look back on certain things and I have
to actively stop my brain from doing that because then
I start feeling guilt where it's like, Yep, I could
have been so present for that moment, and instead I
was fixated on where the bar was yep. And I
missed out on like being with people that I love

(05:21):
and care about.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yep, one hundred percent. And I'm glad that you don't
give yourself shit for that, because it is really hard
to not do that. I call it shame touretts, like
like all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my God,
like like you know, it's like you're you suck and
I don't. I try to avoid that as well, because
it's not useful and it's not helpful, and we're not
those people anymore but it is hard. And the other

(05:44):
thing that I do is also I tell, especially with
my sister, I say I don't remember that, will you
tell me the story? Because in the beginning I used
to lie and say, oh, yeah, I remember that. That
was so fun. Yeah, but I don't remember it because
I was drunk or hot totally. So if she has
a really good memory of us and I don't remember it,

(06:05):
I'm like, will you tell me the story? And then
she does, and then I'm like, that was fucking fun. Great,
we did have fun. That was awesome. It sounds like
a great day.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It sounds like it was a great day.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Noted.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I have to do that too. People will come up
to me and I'm like, okay, was this.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Like I gain twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm like, I was gone.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't even remember who you are, So why don't
you enlighten me on the great times we've had.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Exactly yes, And it's fine to say that.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Sobriety is like the proudest thing I've done in my life.
I know that you've done a lot of wonderful things,
but sobriety is like the one thing I'm very proud of.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Same worst house guest you had to.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Work with.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
If you can see it, the worst house guest I
had to work with. Oh, fuck, let's see it's it
would be best and worst. Okay, I'm gonna say they're
the same person, and it's Nicole because on my season
in BB sixteen, I wanted so desperately to work with

(07:17):
her and she would not fucking work with me, and
so I evicted her, not.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Once, but twice. I got her out of the house,
Get her out of here. Then ten years later on
Reindeer Games, Nicole's back in the house and I was like, bitch,
I have been dying to work with you for ten
fucking years. Are we gonna run this fucking house or
are you gonna be a bitch and are you gonna
like fucking turn against me? And she was like, we're
gonna run this house and then we did and we

(07:43):
got all the way to the finale together. So that
made me really happy.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That makes me very happy.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I love what the same person can be the best
and worst?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yep mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Who do you still talk to? From Big Brother.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Nicole, Cody, Derek? I talked to Derek all the fucking time, Taylor,
who else? Do I talk. Xavier and Josh and I
talk every once in a while, Brittany.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
So you've got a long list of people that you
stayed in contact.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
With, Yeah, I do, I because I had Like it's
interesting because the producers were like, we thought you never
ever wanted to come back or play again, and I
was like, no, I was a fucking drug addict. Guys,
Like after the show of don't I can't imagine what
I said about Big Brother because I was high and
drunk and fucking pilled out, so like, god knows what

(08:33):
I said, So like, don't don't pay attention to that.
I'm sober now and I'm telling you I'm I want
to come back. I love you, guys, And so in
through that that relationship mending, I also kind of got
to make an amends to the show, and then I
reconnected with all my Big Brother friends like via just
being like, guys, I'm ready to come back into the family.

(08:55):
I think everybody thought I was like too good for
Big Brother or whatever the fuck I did, and I
was like, probably because when I was drunk or I probably.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Said that totally.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, wow, look at that, guys. Accountability baby, Accountability bitch,
Like and so like I was like, no, guys, don't
listen to anything that I said between the years is
of twenty fourteen and twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
So then would you if they asked you back again,
would you go back?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah? For sure, Yeah I would go back. My mother's like, fuck, no,
don't do it, and I'm like, I would do it.
I love that fucking game and I played again.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I love that you loved it. Life it's too short
to do things you don't want to do. So if
you're down for the cause, let's get you.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Back in that house exactly, I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
My final question for you is I want to know
how excited you were when you found out Ariana was
going to play Glinda.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah. I'm gonna cry thinking about this moment we were in.
I was in tech for a show called Horror Camp
and she was like, come into the bathroom. I had
to tell you a secret. And I was like okay.
We went into the bathroom and she told me she
was Glinda, and me, my mother and my sister collapsed
on the floor and we were sobbing and it was

(10:05):
just like the craziest moment. And then she came to
the show that night, and I you know, gave like
the performance of my life like for her, knowing that
she was just the happiest human being in the world. Yeah,
and it was such a beautiful night, you know, like
I got she was in the audience, I got to
perform for her, but I like give her that gift.

(10:25):
But at the same time, just knowing the gift that
she's about to give to millions of people around the globe.
Fuck it pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean even my my daughter, who I think at
the time of that was around three years old. I mean,
she's now obsessed. She wants to be Glinda, she wants
to make the cookies, she wants to do so, you know,
it's it's just such an iconic I mean, from from

(10:57):
Broadway to the film. They they crushed and I'm so
happy that you got to have that little moment with
her in the bathroom where you collapse.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
On the floor crying all the Yeah, and it's so
cute to see like little kids go by the Swarovsky
store and point to my sister and be like that's Glinda. Yeah,
Like that's wild.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know that is I I can't even imagine.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, it's so cool and it's just so fun and
I'm just like, I can't wait for the second one.
It's coming up to TikTok, TikTok.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
We'll get the tickets, We'll get my little we'll get
my kids in there, dress.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Them all up their costume. Yes, of course, we're in
it to win it.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Do you have an Alfianna Glinda or are they all
Glinda's No?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
She Ocean's first barbie was actually Alphabet and then like
that was her go to and then she switched over.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
How funny is that?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So you do have both.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I can't keep up.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know, when they're that age, you just roll with
the punches. You're like, whatever you're into this week is
what we'll do exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
And you know what, I think that's the moral of
the stories, that we're all a little Elfie and we're
all a little Glinda. I think we got a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of both in one hundred percent. Yes, thank you so
much for sticking around for the bonus. I fucking love you.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I love you too. You're fucking awesome. Do anything you say,
John by saying how hot be it?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yes, baby, go and us slay the day, rock your
life as you always do, and I will be in
touch well.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Bye Boo me I will bye bye.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And you guys, thank you so much for listening to
another episode bonus episode of Untraditionally La La I'm going
to catch you guys on Wednesday for a regular episode
and then again next week.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Bye.
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