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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, Amber, Hilelah, Welcome to an unlikely affair.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's fucking air. I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I know, right, it's been like four or five years, right, yes,
since we want to do something, and every time we
talk about it, the timing is off.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
And now we're sitting here recording from the same couch,
on the same freaking couch.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I'm sitting on the couch with the ex mistress. Well wow, yeah, sorry,
was that too much?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No? I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I think I am in my era of calling things
like they are. I don't need anyone to sugarcoat anything.
I don't need anybody to like watch what they say
because my feelings may be hurt. It is what it is.
Take all of the nuance out of it. I also
like life is so nuanced, But after like filming this
(01:00):
new show, I'm like, I don't care about the nuances.
Cut to the fucking point, black or white. I don't
want to know every avenue. This is the true wances out.
You are the wife, I was the mistress. Whatever it is,
what it is. I feel so liberated.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But you know what, I fucking love you now. I
really fucking love like a time where thank you I didn't.
I didn't love you so much, Laala, but now I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Can't imagine why. Oh geez, I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Don't know here, let me ask my little Oh okay, yeah,
we're here. No, I'm really excited about the show, so
much to talk about. I just you know, I think
for me, I want to keep it real. I want
to keep it so honest, and I want women to
feel like it's okay to be messy.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Moms. It's okay to be messy.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We're not supposed to be perfect. This is not fucking Pinterest.
This is not a Pinterest podcast, no at all.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So we're gonna have not even on Pinterest. I mean,
I use it for inspiration, and a lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But this is gonna be messy and funny and sad
and sweet. And I can not wait to hear about
all of your dating stories and what the hell is
going on in that Kent house because well, I feel.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The same way because you've moved to Montana. You You
and I like very different types of men are girls
except that one stent in life.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, sorry, how funny that I said that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm like, we like really different guys, which the whole
reason we know each other is because of one person.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You know, we should put on the back of this
wall like all the men.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
No, that would be bad, that would be so bad,
we would never get laid again.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Na, you would definitely get laid you.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I mean, have you seen those photos of you on
Instagram that you posted of your wonderful donc you know?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But thinking once I got back to the mainland, I
would want to slide into so many dms after I
posted that, and then I got back and was just like,
so fucking sick.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You're in Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Why didn't you slide into dms while you were there?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because I feel weird sliding into dms when my children
are like sleeping next to me or I'm playing with them.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is that is that nerd?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
No, that's normal. That makes you a good mom, but
a good present mom.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like if you were like, no, I'm like all slide
into dms when I'm like home and settled.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And then I got back and.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Felt like death. So it's timing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's timing as everything. I don't think God wanted me
to slide into any dms. No, No, when I had
you on untraditionally La La for the first ever podcast
episode of my rebrand or relaunch or you know jujing
I love a good ji, I.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Love a good jug.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
People were so excited, Yeah, what's judj ourselves?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Okay, what happened? People were excited about just the two
of us.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We've never really spoken.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean, I've spoken about you, but the two of
us have never been out there like this, having conversations
and addressing things. Everyone thinks that they know the story,
which I think I think some people do.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And I just said that I hate nuance, but in
this case.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Doing this podcast, I think it's going to give a
lot of people hope and co parenting, or I guess
for us, parallel parenting is very difficult. We have the
holiday coming up, and even though you may have a
set agreement in order, like life doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Work like that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
No. I think one of the biggest things that about
co parenting it teaches you to be flexible and you
got to pick and choose your battles. You're like, you
know what this is about all I'm not willing to
fight because it's going to interrupt my sanity, it's going
to interrupt the holidays, and.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's like, yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But I think one of the going back to your
point is that I think a lot of people, you know,
from what they see on TV and what they know
of me, is that they think we're really different. But
as I've gotten to know you over the years, I
think there's a lot of similarities, and I think it
will be nice for people to hear those similarities.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know, at the beginning, what did you think, what
is super different? Or what have people said that they
think we're super different? I mean, I know that I'm
very much. Here's the difference though, ambers You are an actress,
So while you go out and have an incredible talent,
(05:17):
and you know you're going off of a script and
then you kind of go into your real life. My
line of work is going on a show and like
being an elevated version of myself. Right, So we're going
to seem very different because you're going out and you're
very poised, and I love that about you.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But when we're behind closed.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Doors, the two of us can get down and taking
about some pretty insane things.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah and yeah, a lot of insane things. But I
think a lot of people I've done a lot of work,
I've done a lot of healing. I'm like arrived at
a new place in my life where I think what
I've been kind of hiding is this fire.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That I have in me that.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
A lot of people probably wouldn't expect. And I think
that fire, like probably has stemmed from having to really
fucking fight for myself and fight for my children and
fight for the truth and what's right at the same time,
not like land on my ass and like.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Look like a fool.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
But I think that's kind of where you and I
are similar. Like I see that like outward expression of
this badass that you are and you just fucking say
it how it is, and I'm like, I have that
in me, but I don't know how to express it right,
like because again, like you give me a script and
I'm I'm good. I could play those like you know,
all these characters that I've played over the years on
(06:40):
television or in film have been these really strong, badass women,
but in life, I'm a little It's like I'm a
little more reserved or like that little Mormon girl or
those voices come out going like you have to be
buttoned up and you have to but that's not the truth.
Like I think that's one of the beautiful things about
(07:01):
aging as women, you just give less fucks.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I love that part.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But also can I tell you and I can't wait
to deep dive into so many different conversations on this podcast.
But as I, as I get older, I'm realizing that
and I don't even want to call it baggage because
I don't look at it that way. But depending on
who you meet when you're trying to find a partner
(07:33):
you I now have a life where it's like, this
is what comes comes with me.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, take it or leave it, right, And you know
what I tell people.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I tell people listen, I'm a.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Package deal one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't need you to pay for my kids. But
just so you know, my kids are arriving at the
doorstep with.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Me one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Actually, and a few dogs maybe and a few dogs,
few for babies.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But you know I have this.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I have a very specific I won't date older than forty,
give or take a couple of years. And twenty five
so ten years younger. And I've been leaning more towards
the younger side. I feel like many different ages Mentally,
I feel like I am twenty one years old.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm like, we have so much in common. What are
you talking about? Yeah, yeah, young blood.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, But then I'm like, no, I am thirty five,
I am self sufficient, I have two babies. I don't
need shit from you. And then physically I feel like
I'm one hundred.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You wear a lot of different hats, and I think
a lot of women feel that way, like a lot
of women. Yeah, speaking of hats, the holidays are coming up,
and do you get overwhelmed with the amount of like
people that either show up at your house or like
navigating the co parenting of I mean, we share the
(08:57):
same baby, daddy, but like the competition of Christmas because
it's it's it's Disneyland over there.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I mean it's but so yeah, that's what I wanted
to ask you, you know, because I'm struggling with this.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Are you yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Big time? Big time lately?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, well, well again, you and I have very we
have different ages, and it is like Disneyland over there, and.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I know that, and if I was a kid, I
would want to live over there too.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'd be like, oh, why we're going to Disneyland because
it's fucking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, when I got that, trust me, Like the gifts,
the gifts are amazing when you're a child. But what
I have what I have noticed, is that my job
is to not provide Ocean with a bunch of shit.
My job with Ocean is to provide her with my time,
(09:59):
to provide her with discipline and structure and consistency, and
that is where she thrives.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's the greatest gift you can give your children.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
When she goes to his house and comes back and
wants to talk about all of the things that she
got and the you know, ten pound bag of candy
that she got, I tell her how amazing that is.
And then when we go to the store and she's
throwing things in the cart, it is a conversation of
we're not getting it because of this reason. And I
(10:32):
find that empowering, because there's gonna be a day where
my child is older and raising kids and she's not.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
There's gonna be a day where she doesn't care about
the shit. She doesn't want a ten pound bag of candy.
And let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
This is the other thing that I tell myself in
my head. When she wants to talk about everything that
her dad gets here, I'm like, her dad's a fucking renter.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Her mom's an owner bitch.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Whoa mic drop, Mike drop.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh there's anything wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Let me be very clear. Yeah, let me be clear again.
Nothing wrong with renting. Nothing, there's nothing wrong with renting.
It's the fact that you want to buy all this
stuff for these kids.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But I have my.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Business manager saying I can't get a hold of home boy.
He owes you X amount of thousands of dollars intuition
and child support.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You just say, you provide structure, and I really commend
you for that, and it's like the greatest I didn't
I wasn't able to give my kids that because I
was literally in chaos.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I was survived. I was literally trying not to kill
myself at that time.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Not to go dark.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I'm just like, you provide structure, and your kids
are still young, so I'm like sitting.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Across from the couchpoint like.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You could just fucking keep doing it.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Like what you're doing is like the right move.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But then, like you said, as they get older, it's
it's much hard.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Riley came home with a fucking pair of Gucci sunglasses
from New York.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Why did she go to New York?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
She went from Ohio where they were filming, to New
York and she came back and I said, Okay, you
know what, that's great, Riley. They look actually really good
on you. I'm really happy for you. Yeah, And I
said it in a very genuine way, and then she
was off bouncing around.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know, but that stuff that hurts my ego, right,
that's not like that because.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You can't go buy her Gucci sunglasses.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I don't want to buy her Gucci sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It's just that I know what he's doing and it
breaks my heart for her in London. And it also
is like I can't compete with that, and nor do
I want to. Like I just I've arrived like materialistic
things like I walk around with now a TJ Max bag,
(12:51):
and I fucking love this bag. I love it more
than any other bag I've ever owned. OK, maybe that's
not true, but like close, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Can I tell tell you there. I used to think
that all of that shit was so cool. And I'll
be honest. I I for both of my girls on
their first birthdays. I got them designer bags because I
wanted to be the first person to give them their
first designer bag.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Whatever. Sosa too, Sosa too, Sosa.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That might be a good lunch, but a little like
Gucci tiny little bag. Right, it's cute, it's whatever. I
did it for Sosa, because I did it for Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
That's a whole nother problem had. Oh my got.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But let me tell you, as as someone who has
had and you have too, had a lot of shit
thrown at them that I have not paid for, and
then getting to a place where I can pay for
that stuff, and then going to a place where all
you want is safety, security, and even if your peace
means living in a fucking box, you don't care.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I am met in to Chanel uh in.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hawaii and I was like, I'm ready to fucking blow
some money. I walked in and I was like, I
don't care about any of this fucking shit. No.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, okay, first of all, Chanel like, you could buy
a really nice boy bag for thirty five hundred, forty
five hundred.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Now they're like eight thousands.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Me the one I was looking at was like almost,
I want to say, eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know what this means.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
We're maturing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But let me tell you, I was like, this will
not bring me an ounce of fucking happiness, no at all,
because my good ball sack mite. Oh but give me
all the twenty five year old's dick in the world.
I want a young, hot, tight big dick tight balls.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Wow, can we put this on your dating profile?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Twenty five is fine? Right, I'm thirty five? Yeah, like
a weird no.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
No, you're having fun just I deserve it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I didn't say to you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Who are you my mom? Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm rejecting my freaking mother and my brother. They're like
grossed out by me right now, and I'm like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Oh my gosh, let me let me.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I want to go on them, let them let me
yet we please, And this is exactly the kind of
ship we're talking about on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I love it all right.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
There was just like a little taste, just the tip
of an unlikely affair.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I love a good tip.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I just so does he. That's what I've heard. At least,
we're going to catch all the men.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
The tip is where it's at, The tip is where
it's at. Anywhere, We're going to catch you.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
January eighth, for a full episode, Love y'all, Thank you
to the crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes