December 10, 2025 • 31 mins
Vanderpump Rules newbie, Natalie Maguire is pulling out all the stops and pulling out her receipts!
She shows Lala the text messages that explain the castmate drama and talks about the hardest part of being a newbie.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Laala, Hello, gorgeous,
Welcome back to untraditionally, Lala. I am in the mother
effing Twilight Zone today because I used to be on
this show. I don't know if you guys have heard
of it. It's called Vanderpump Rules, and we're no longer
on it. Me and my friends, well, I guess people
who used to be my friends, and they recast a
(00:22):
bunch of people who are still friends. Hi Natalie McGuire, Hi,
how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm also in the Twilight Zone because I just, you know,
walked into SIRR to get a bartending job. And I
don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How long ago did you walk into SIRR to get
a bartending job?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I moved to La April of twenty twenty three, and
like my third week, I went to sir like in
workout clothes to see what it was like in real life.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so does that mean you were a fan of
the show.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I became a fan of the show like as I
was moving to LA and as I started bartending in
college because I had my own like crazy group of
people that I was working with. Okay, oh my god,
this is why there's a show about this. Everyone's nuts
that works in restaurants. Yeah, so started getting into the show.
My sister watched it, so that helped. I was like
a big Bravo fan, and I was like wow. When
(01:12):
I moved to LA because I went to school for acting,
it was there in New York. I was like, that
is probably a really interesting place to work and I'll
probably make money since there's a show about it. I'm
sure it's always busy. And also I would love to
work for Lisa vander Pump, Like who knows, you know,
she's one of the most famous restaurants tours in the world. Totally,
(01:33):
I just want to be connected to her, and that
was really my initial goal. I never thought when there's
a show about like an established friend group that's in
a different phase of life than me, why would I ever.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
See a place for myself in that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, Like I didn't because so you're twenty seven. I
was one of the youngest cast members. Yeah, during vander
Pump Rules, I just turned thirty five this year. We
are in a very different stage of life than you
guys are in Yeah, what was the process of them
(02:05):
basically telling you, hey, we're still going to do vander
Pump Rules, but we're casting all new people.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, we were in the dark. We never heard that
at all.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It was kind of like I was at work one
day and Gierma was pulling all of us individually to
take photos of us, okay, probably to send to production.
Was what was going around, is what I heard. And
I was so like, this is not happening. There's no
way it's happening. And then, you know, people just kept
(02:35):
talking about it for months, like I think it's going
to happen. People in the restaurant, yeah, like literally servers
and bartenders think, I think this is the direction that
they're going to go in, and I was like, there's
no fucking way the whole time until you know, then
we really started having conversations and I was still like,
this isn't happening, but I'll tell you about my life
(02:57):
and about like my relationships within the restaurant. And I
think everyone was really open in those conversations, and I
guess that's why they move forward. Because one day I
woke up, it was literally November twenty six. I woke
up and my phone was blown up with like the
headlines that the show was officially rebooting with a whole
new cast. Okay, and that was the first time I
knew that it was really happening.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We still didn't know who it was. So at that
point in time when we got the call, because I
think we got the call maybe a week before the
official announcement was coming out, and it was no surprise
to me that they were. There was a conversation of
we're thinking about bringing you all back for a final season,
(03:40):
season twelve. None of you guys have to film together
if you don't want to, we'll just show you guys
in your own you know, where you're at in life,
and it'll be maybe like six to eight episodes. And
like people would have loved that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
People missed that that didn't happen, or are said that
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think that they were feeling it out. I know
that I said, I don't see any point in doing that,
and I'm sure the rest of the cast when we
were reached out to, was like, that sounds great. I
think I don't want to interest it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was like when you guys had that final reunion.
It's like this kind of feels like it's ending, but
like is it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah? It felt very over, Yeah, very over to me.
So it's interesting that you guys didn't know and production
and we Rivo didn't know who they wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We were having these conversations for a long time, like
I think I think I had maybe I was twenty
five and the show just came out and I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I just turned twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was kind of a long process, Like I think
it was August we started having those conversations and then, uh,
I'm getting my dates mixed up August and then I
think it took like six months maybe until we knew.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Who it was and you got the call and they
were like, hey, we're Sport.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And they were like, we would love to have you
on this season of Die. I know, I think I
was just like, what the hell is going on? I
never I still haven't processed it because I really this
is my third year working at SIR so the whole
time we were filming, I mean, I got used to
cameras being around pretty quickly, Like I went to acting school,
Like didn't really FaZe me that much. All my relationships
(05:16):
were so real and also like falling apart. At the
time that my focus was like I just want to
be good in my job, right and with my friends.
So now it's coming out and I'm reliving it, and
I'm starting to process because now I'm hearing like comments
and opening my phone and seeing us and it's starting
to hit me, right, But like, I still have to
(05:37):
go work Wednesday night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Like it's really crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It is. It is a very strange thing. Yeah, right
where I remember working at sir and then all of
this sudden it was like, here's a camera and people
are going to watch you work, and I'm like, I
don't even know what the hell I'm doing hostessing. This
is like the hardest job I've ever had in my life. Well,
you killed it, I crush, right, Yeah, does Diana still
work it? There?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, she left, you know what.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I just like had a flashback of of when you
wore like whatever outfit and Lisa Mayde put the T
shirt on. But I feel like I wear crazy things
sometimes because I'm a bartender, So I don't like you
being honest. I can kind of wear my own thing
as long as it's like black totally. So I feel
like I kind of pushed that limit sometimes, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's fun to push the limit. And without those limits
being pushed, you don't have a TV show.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
True.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So we're two episodes in. How did people react to
the first episode? I mean, and on it be completely
honest in general?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yes, in general, I think, you know, we'rather against you
guys who were like some of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So we did our best.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We really work together, we really know each other, and
like I thought it was interesting because there was so
much going on at the.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Time, but people were like, well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's not awful, it's not horrible.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That was a win.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think that's a huge win.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Honestly, I think that they have to separate the groups,
the two the two, and everyone's like, well, I wish
it was a season one of a different name, and
it's just a stupid debate that really doesn't even matter anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, it doesn't matter because all of these people who
have these genius ideas, right, is what they think is
a genius idea, they're they're just conversations that are a
waste of time because the network is gonna do whatever
they want to do. And honestly, when I watched the
first episode, it was definitely weird. H it was.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Definitely frick And even seeing that intro, with.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The intro the girl throwing the pedals, I was like, Oh,
I've done.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That before, literally that exact same thing, the same action.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, But I think I think that you guys did
a really great job of carrying a first episode. And
it's gonna be hard for you because it's almost like
reality TV has existed for so long and Bravo has
gotten so big, yeah, that even a new city of
let's just say Housewives is always going to be looked
at as, Oh, they've watched Housewives and they like know
(08:05):
the drill and they're trying to be like they're trying exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And I feel like, at least for me speaking for myself,
like I never tried to be any character person on
the show, you know, no matter what people think, Like,
we're not trying to be any of you guys, Like
it's a lot to juggle filming and bartending and working
and personal stuff like we kuld of think about how
do we how do we be like them? It was
(08:30):
just like what we signed up to do this? Excuse me,
let's just be real, right, But I think some people
actually held back and the people that were real are
the ones that are being talked about right now.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, so you say that you you've basically grown up
in the arts, Yeah, did that prepare you for the
comments section that is now happening for you?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So you don't even care what people are saying. I mean,
I think I care when it's like a character attack.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's more like if she's annoying, I can't stand her voice.
That stuff I don't care about.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Like, I think, when you grow up wanting to be
an acting or singing or whatever it is, you learn
to face rejection really young. So like the rejection is fine,
you don't have to like me. But I think when
I start getting accused of, you know, meddling in people's
relationships or stealing people's boyfriends or texting people's boyfriends inappropriately,
especially by people that really know me, that's where my
(09:26):
feelings starts to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Because I always try to be a good person.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm not perfect, but people that know me know that
I'm a relationship girl. I've pretty much had one relationship
the whole time I was at SIR, and one situationship
with a guy that would come into sir and everyone
knew who he was, so it's like, what are you
guys talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I feel like we're grasping at straws.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, watching this, I guess first and second episode. Is
there something so amazing about having a camera around because
you know when things are being said, you're like, oh,
I can't wait for this to air. I remember when
Jax Taylor told Brittany that I was hitting on him,
and I was like, are you kidding? And Brittany comes
(10:07):
up to me and she's confronting me and she's like,
oh my gosh, this girl is a whore. Everyone was right,
and then it airs and she gets to see his
behavior and how I was not exactly. You were new
on top of it and I was brand new. But
there's things that I'm watching like where I'm like, oh
my gosh, it has to feel so good for you
(10:29):
that the second episode, it's like flashback scene text message
being popped up.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I felt an insane amount of relief.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, isn't that so fun? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But it's like crazy because these girls still believe what
they made up in their minds. It's like, you guys,
see the text now it's right. It's still difficult for
them to accept that I don't want their man.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I know, isn't that it's so crazy. It's this point,
it's kind of just to you problem, right, I can't
help you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And that's why I.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Said And I forgot that I even said this, And
that's that's probably the funny part of watching everything back.
It's like, oh my god, I can't believe I said that,
But I love that when I said, like, I couldn't
hold in a thought if I tried, Like if I
really wanted Marcus, everyone would know about it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, I can't shut up. I can't shut up either.
Give me a fresh set of ears to project into.
And I'm like the happiest camera.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm meeting, because literally how I.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Feel so everyone and their dog, everything about every since
the day I was born, Like, hello, let's go back.
Someone muzzle this bitch. What I want people to know,
(11:40):
especially listening to this podcast and just the Bravo fan base. Yeah,
two things that I that I have noticed where I go, Oh,
this show is gonna be really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, tell me.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The security cam footage of you losing your shit in sir,
you had I'm sure, you had no idea that you
cameras were down. You were not saying, God, this was
a week before because you were amazing a damn fool
of yourself. It was fucking awesome. It felt so real
and authentic. So that shows me, like, you guys are
not putting on for the cameras. I also love that
(12:15):
you mean you guys, but okay, you I love it.
She is me. I'm like, hold on, I'm a one
woman show, baby, lone wolf. Here, you are not putting
on a show. And I also love that you stepped
into this podcast studio and had like text messages and
receipts of yeah, I'm not playing DEMI like you guys
(12:36):
having a back and forth. Cameras are fully down right now,
but shit is still popping off. Oh my gosh, Vander
Pump Rules is alive and wow.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah part two we're doing it all over again, just
new faces.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Can you share what was it, like, what the text
messages were about.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, and she's probably gonna hate me even more, but
at this point, like.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well we can't get her season thirteen, then you know,
I can't wait to be mentioned. You said on that
you're going to be playing La lah, you've read my
private text messages.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But it's like, look what you made me do, like
and sor right in the mirror. I would never have
to do this if you didn't put me in this position.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So you know, there's this whole debate going on.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, the first episode, I say, you, guys, my
ex is driving me crazy. Hence my meltdown in the
middle of sir. And by the way, it's because I
was with family and he wasn't. We weren't on speaking terms.
But then all of a sudden, he's like so sweet
to my whole family, and it triggered me. Oh so
I'm like, oh, we're going to play that game. You're
gonna pretend like everything's fine. Like if everything's fine, and
(13:42):
you're gonna like kiss my dad's ass all night, why
don't you speak to me and look me in the eye.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think you would have lost your shit more had
he been a dick to your dad. I think, no
matter what, you would have lost him.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I think if he avoided us since we just weren't
on speaking terms because he's kind of a shy dude
in general. Yeah, I know, yeah, he didn't have to
like interact with my family, But I think he still
loved me and he wanted to He just knew that
we weren't able to communicate healthily at the time. Now
my dad's here, So what are you gonna do with
when the dad shows up?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh, you're gonna act right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So he acted right, and I was like, hmm, that's
interesting because.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I haven't heard from you in weeks. Someone blocked you
and you fully swatted them down in that secure I mean,
I was in Nearmo's face, like when I get to
that level, like it's it's bad and I'm working on it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But anyways, so I say my ex is driving me crazy,
and under her breath, I didn't hear this that night,
she goes so funny that she says.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Her Rex, bitch, that's not your ex.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's not I.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Think if we're gonna speak facts.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
As I started coming into sir, she was coming out
of a five year relationship, and I guess loved coming
into sir and having a little secret flaying with Pawlo. Okay,
I so get that, like do what you can to
do coming out of your five year relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I had no fucking clue.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But we're talking about the fact that he's a shy guy.
So from her point of view, this young cute girl
starts working at sir and this guy that usually doesn't
speak to anyone is now super interactive with this girl
next to him at the bar all night.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
She was pissed, okay, but she's like, this is the
guy I come here and talk to and text all
night long and say.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But in her confessional, she says that they that she
and Paolo had broken up and you got with him
like a day later. Like, if I'm remembering correctly, she
did say that they were together.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
They weren't together. They barely hung out outside of the restaurant. Well,
the text message is that you have in your phone
proved that exactly. So it's like they would hang out
during closing and like kiss and stuff whatever they were doing.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But how fun? How much fun? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So it must be fun being a manager and having
to be there all night instead of being able to
go home.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, so sorry, I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Let's just get there because I'm tired of it. It's
not her ex okay, And I think you know he
was just tired of the cat and mouse chase with her.
She loved the game, Yeah, because she's getting out of
something just stale, totally dying relationship, and now there's like
this older guy that's like making her feel something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Once, and he's very sexy.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Very sexy. And that's why I dated an older guy.
I want to date like an ugly older guy. He
was not older guy.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, no I didn't. I didn't say it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's a big age gap, by the way, for you
and him.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's really big, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I didn't realize how old he was when we started blurting. Actually,
the night that we made out, he told me his
age and I was like, whoa, yeah he's pretty old,
but you don't look it. So I'll I'm just gonna
keep drinking my margarita, pretend like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, so you keep going down in age.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So okay, So the text were where demmy admit that
like they were never together, right, Okay. So she also
called you like miserable or something, and I mean, she's.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Telling me she's going to threaten my life and she
has these apparent screenshots of god knows what, probably nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I have nothing to hide. Seriously, I'll own my shit.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
People love to say that I can't take accountability but
even in the first episode, I tell Chris next to me,
everyone's going to tell you I was crazy and screaming,
which is true, like I can take accountability. So she
sends me a text after we're doing press now, and
I'm gonna clear the situation up because you're not going
to say I stole your boyfriend when he was never
your boyfriend. Totally sorry that you guys had a fling.
(17:29):
This is what I was gonna say. And the game,
the game got old for him because he's too old
for it, and he just moved on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
He should have said I'm gonna move on. This timing
isn't right.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
And like you're beautiful, but I just I don't see
a way forward right. Instead, she's a bitter bitch, saying
you were a second choice.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not a second choice.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I got a text so long that I had to
open it after we've started, after we've started going, it
comes through in notes instead. I mean, I'm working a
brunshift and I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Are you just mad that I'm doing Did you read
the whole thing? At first?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
No, since I was working brunch, And then I had
to go to my gaze and say, we got to
read this message together.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh yeah, the gaze always got the time too. Oh yeah,
I mean I go straight to my gaze. So I'm like,
I got a.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Novel for you, one hundred that's every day.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, okay, so that's what I did.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So she let me know I was a second choice,
and she told me, I thought you knew that, And
so I just sent her a photo of the wedding
rings that we used to wear.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean, we would like pretend to be married.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It wasn't legal, but we remind you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Guys, cameras are down, this is none of this is
being and I said, and it's still happening. It is
so good.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Like I'm so tired, you guys, I have no voice
from her and I screaming at each other the other day.
Like that's why my voice issy. Thanks, Okay, I should
yell more of them. So anyway, so we'll get to
the point. I said, like a second choice. I'm so
sorry that you're distraught over the truth. I love you
and I know you would defend yourself if there were
lies regarding your character too, And she just said, are
(18:57):
you okay? Nothing is worth talking to you. I never
said that he didn't love you. And that you guys
weren't serious. You're batshit. I'm worried about you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
This is what she said to you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, I said, I'm fine. I'm not going to engage
in a text war. The days of you putting me
down constantly are over. Like, I am just so done
being belittled by her, because she talks down to every
single person ever, Like I'm done, I'm done being gasp lit.
She said, you are most definitely not okay, and everyone
even says it, concluding your so called friends. The only
(19:28):
difference is I tell it to your face that text
I sent you was a courtesy instead of me exposing you.
You have no idea the screenshots I have. Don't do
this to yourself. Seriously, don't. You will regret it so much.
I said, I have some of the best friends in
the world. But thank you so much for being so
courteous with your repeated threats. This is getting dark even
for you. This conversation is over. I'm very sorry we
ended up here, and I am because I love her.
(19:49):
I am very sorry this happened, but she did it
so Then she said, this is where I said, thank you.
You just outed yourself. I was never in love with Paolo,
and I never claimed I was. If I wanted to
be with him, I would have done it. He's my friend.
In capital letters. We had a fling. I've never tried
to claim otherwise. Did she watch the show or does she?
(20:13):
Does she have amnesia? Does she need medical help?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
If you could actually read the text I sent you,
I mean I read it with the gaze, so I
had witnesses try to process it like an adult, you
would see exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Natalie.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You clearly you uh. I said that she's a straw
over the truth. No, Natalie, clearly you are. Otherwise you
wouldn't have responded to that text with only the rings.
I've told you how much he loves you and that
he and I were never meant to be together. I'm
just telling you facts, which is things that he has
literally said to me multiple times.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You are delusional.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
The only reason I even text you the shit is
because talking to you in person is impossible, because I
can never get a warden because I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Let you say bullshit in my face. Shut up, shut up,
shut up, shut up. I don't time to hear your bullshit.
So that's where we're at it's you said you love her,
I do, and all that You're not gonna be good
after this. We're already not good. Well you're about to
be not good. I'm just like, if.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You're gonna drag me, let's see you try. Like, I
don't think whatever she has, there's no way. It's like
as scary as she's making it out to be. I
literally couldn't imagine what it is.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Who are you closest with on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm close with Venus for years.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's your bestie. Yeah, we're super close. My one of
my gays. Yeah, yeah, it's one of the gays. And
then we have like a whole group. Now he actually
moved in with another one of our gays, so like
now they live together.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's so condised that it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Was it squashed the beef between I forgot their name,
Marcus and his girlfriend the one who says Venus and
him and them, No, the girlfriend of Marcus Kimberly saying
that Kimberly was saying that you would flirt with her man,
and it shows him on TV being like, no, we're
like brother and sister. But anything that you said that
I know does she finally believe you, because at the
(22:13):
end of the episode two, she's crying to you. I
hope either she ignored you about polish.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, and it like our toast looked really cute and
I wish she actually looked at them.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I love that you guys are making white polish like
not Oh, I see what you mean. You know what
I mean. Yeah, one of our cast members used to
wear white nail polish and like, no one could wear
white nail polish after that. Well, I was upset because
I'm like, white nail polish makes me look really tan.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's exactly right, that's why it's so cute on the toes,
so cute on the toes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, she ignored you with that, and then she's crying
to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm like, I've been trying to talk to you guys
for months, and all you do is insult me, talk
down to me, Like I.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Don't get I don't get why they.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Feel so comfortable picking me apart, and that's why I
speak up for myself and then I get called a
name for that too. It's like it's a lose lose
situation for me, and I really don't know why I'm
just like trying to accept it. And I have my
other friends because at this point, I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Are fucking toxic, fake mean people.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think that, No, it's easy to come for somebody
who will give it back to you. Yeah, right, Like
you're not timid, You're not a raging bitch. You probably
can be.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, we all can have a little rage, just
if you bring it out of me and you hurt me.
That's the thing is it's all coming from like genuine
hurt feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Would you say that you're probably the star so far
of vander Pump Rules reboot.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I hate that word.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I keep hearing that and I think it's such a compliment.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But the word I would use is the most vulnerable,
the most authentic. I mean, there are people having all
sorts of stuff going on in their lives while we're
filming that they won't even bring to the show.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wait really Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was like, if I'm going to do this, I'm
gonna I'm going to be one hundred percent me. I'm
not gonna you know, even in some of those last interviews,
especially when you know we met the network and they
met us, it wasn't just like Baskin and all of them.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now, this was like a big boardroom of people meeting us.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I was telling them about my life and my childhood,
and they would say, is this off limits? Is this
off limits? I'm like, nothing's off limits. I want to
be in this room. If my life was off limit, totally,
my life is. I'm good with my life. I'm good
with myself.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
How did your family feel about you signing up for
a show like this?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, my family situation is super complicated. I don't
know if you're going to see much about it this
season because it's just so much drama. And there are
other people that have like difficult family situations, and I
think that's more important right now than like my family beef.
But I don't have a great relationship with my mom really,
(24:58):
I've probably seen her and full of times in the
past seven years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now, has it always been that way, like since you
were a child?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I think it's so funny because in the first episode,
I say, Ariana grew up in the neighborhood next to me,
which is true? And where is that in Bolgratone? Okay,
kind of near Miami, in between Palm Beach and Miami.
Oh you're a Florida girl. Yeah, And I think like
I did a lot of the same training programs as her.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And when I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like I was just so hungry to be like a
child star, be working. And I think she thought I
could be the next Ariana. And I think she treated
me like sometimes not like her kid and like her
protege or something. Okay, you know, so as I got
older that that didn't really play out well. As like
(25:49):
I went through being a teenager and like really needed
like guidance and a mom. And my stepdad raised me
since I was three, and they had a divorce in
high school and once they separated, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Just like me on my own.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I failed out of high school.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All the people that I went to high school with
watching this me walking in that graduation was they did
me a favor. I did not graduate high school. My
senior year failed completely. I was completely depressed, pulling my
hair out, taking klonopin. In the middle of school. I
would wake up on my teacher's floors because I would
pass out from saying so much colnopin. I was a mess,
(26:26):
and my mom was just not present whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Thank you, Thank you, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well it seems okay, okay. I'm very impressed by you,
by the way, because for me, is it I remember
being twenty seven when I wasn't in a drunken stupor.
I got sober when I was twenty eight. But and again,
I don't know what you and the cast will go
through on this journey, but you know, yeah, I found
(26:57):
myself going through an addiction issue, hiding a relationship where
I was very much whether I knew it or chose
not to see it, whatever the nuances are of that,
but ended up in a position of being a mistress.
I ended up getting sober on the show, my dad
dying on the show. There's gonna be so much that
you guys will go through that's going to be documented.
(27:19):
And again I don't know you. I'm just meeting you
for the first time now, but I think that you
have a wonderful future and a lot of opportunity in
front of you if you take the bowl by the
balls and you just keep your eye on the price.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not even you know, I try
to think of my life in like a year's span
because it's all I can handle.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's like, well, a year ago, I was just bartending
and kind of in a relationship that wasn't perfect and
figuring that out. Also, my dog had cancer, Like that
was terrible. I'm still like paying off those medical bills.
It was horrible. But you know, I rescued a dog
and it was my responsibility to take care of her.
So she's deaf in one year, she's perfect now almost
the year later. So yeah, now looking last year versus
(28:00):
this year, now it's like, well, this year, we're doing this.
You know, I'm closer with my good friends than ever, Like,
I don't need people like what you're seeing in my life.
And I think throughout the show, I beg them to
be good with me because I love them. I'm begging
us to just not have this drama and be okay.
And I think now now I'm learning that I can't
(28:20):
beg people to be in my life if they are
committed to misunderstanding me. There's nothing I can do. I
can get on my hands and knees and paint her
tolls white myself, It's there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
No, But you guys are going to go through a
lot of ups and downs together. And I think, what
makes what makes life beautiful but also a successful show. Yeah,
is resilience within a group, because it makes it impossible
for a show to go on if things happen that
can't be forgiven.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yes, which might be a problem, but it's not mine anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, well, you have no control over it. I hope
that the rest of the cast and you know, again,
we're what two episodes in, we'll see what happens. But
I hope that you can all find a way to
navigate like this newfound fame. Yeah, this weirdness of like
live your life, but let's document every second and then
we're going to edit it down. You filmed for four
hours today, it's going to be about two minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's it's that's a crazy thing to say too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
To see how much gets Yeah, and yeah, I really
I haven't really had that experience.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But I was watching it with Audrey, who I'm also
really close with and met her before we started filming,
so then her and I just became even closer, and
Hermie and Venus were hanging out eating McDonald's last night,
like you know, oh, it's just the best. Yeah, So
they were watching them having like a manifestation session yeah,
which is adorable positive, which is what we need.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, this group of people and.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
They were like, wow, we really did that for so
long and that was like two minutes long.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's a lot, right, You're like, damn, you can't get
married to any of your scenes? No?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, uh.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I think there's one thing that I know won't be
in it that I'm really pissed about. But I just
have to swallow it. Just swallow it, baby. Everyone loves
a swallower. I've heard at least.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
What are you the most nervous about being part of
the show now and what people are going.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
To see most nervous is it's crazy. I feel like
I'm most nervous about like picking up my lexapro on time.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't really know what I'm nervous of. I think
I'm I'm not nervous. I feel like I moved here
to have a voice and be creative and like level
up as a human being, and like that's what I'm
doing and even if it's uncomfortable, like it's fine, not nervous.
I'm sure one day I'll cry or regret saying that
(30:54):
it's not going to be perfect.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's already not perfect.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think you're in a great position for your first season.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Trying to think of something that's making me nervous and
I don't know nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I love that you don't have to think about it.
If it doesn't come right to you, then you're not nervous,
and I think that's totally okay. I'm going to keep
you around for the bonus. Thank you so much for
joining me on untraditionally La La You guys, thank you
for listening to another episode. I love you. I'm going
to catch you on Monday for the bonus and again
next week. Bye.
Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Laala, Hello, gorgeous,
Welcome back to untraditionally, Lala. I am in the mother
effing Twilight Zone today because I used to be on
this show. I don't know if you guys have heard
of it. It's called Vanderpump Rules, and we're no longer
on it. Me and my friends, well, I guess people
who used to be my friends, and they recast a
(00:22):
bunch of people who are still friends. Hi Natalie McGuire, Hi,
how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm also in the Twilight Zone because I just, you know,
walked into SIRR to get a bartending job. And I
don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How long ago did you walk into SIRR to get
a bartending job?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I moved to La April of twenty twenty three, and
like my third week, I went to sir like in
workout clothes to see what it was like in real life.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so does that mean you were a fan of
the show.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I became a fan of the show like as I
was moving to LA and as I started bartending in
college because I had my own like crazy group of
people that I was working with. Okay, oh my god,
this is why there's a show about this. Everyone's nuts
that works in restaurants. Yeah, so started getting into the show.
My sister watched it, so that helped. I was like
a big Bravo fan, and I was like wow. When
(01:12):
I moved to LA because I went to school for acting,
it was there in New York. I was like, that
is probably a really interesting place to work and I'll
probably make money since there's a show about it. I'm
sure it's always busy. And also I would love to
work for Lisa vander Pump, Like who knows, you know,
she's one of the most famous restaurants tours in the world. Totally,
(01:33):
I just want to be connected to her, and that
was really my initial goal. I never thought when there's
a show about like an established friend group that's in
a different phase of life than me, why would I ever.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
See a place for myself in that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, Like I didn't because so you're twenty seven. I
was one of the youngest cast members. Yeah, during vander
Pump Rules, I just turned thirty five this year. We
are in a very different stage of life than you
guys are in Yeah, what was the process of them
(02:05):
basically telling you, hey, we're still going to do vander
Pump Rules, but we're casting all new people.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, we were in the dark. We never heard that
at all.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It was kind of like I was at work one
day and Gierma was pulling all of us individually to
take photos of us, okay, probably to send to production.
Was what was going around, is what I heard. And
I was so like, this is not happening. There's no
way it's happening. And then, you know, people just kept
(02:35):
talking about it for months, like I think it's going
to happen. People in the restaurant, yeah, like literally servers
and bartenders think, I think this is the direction that
they're going to go in, and I was like, there's
no fucking way the whole time until you know, then
we really started having conversations and I was still like,
this isn't happening, but I'll tell you about my life
(02:57):
and about like my relationships within the restaurant. And I
think everyone was really open in those conversations, and I
guess that's why they move forward. Because one day I
woke up, it was literally November twenty six. I woke
up and my phone was blown up with like the
headlines that the show was officially rebooting with a whole
new cast. Okay, and that was the first time I
knew that it was really happening.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We still didn't know who it was. So at that
point in time when we got the call, because I
think we got the call maybe a week before the
official announcement was coming out, and it was no surprise
to me that they were. There was a conversation of
we're thinking about bringing you all back for a final season,
(03:40):
season twelve. None of you guys have to film together
if you don't want to, we'll just show you guys
in your own you know, where you're at in life,
and it'll be maybe like six to eight episodes. And
like people would have loved that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
People missed that that didn't happen, or are said that
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think that they were feeling it out. I know
that I said, I don't see any point in doing that,
and I'm sure the rest of the cast when we
were reached out to, was like, that sounds great. I
think I don't want to interest it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was like when you guys had that final reunion.
It's like this kind of feels like it's ending, but
like is it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah? It felt very over, Yeah, very over to me.
So it's interesting that you guys didn't know and production
and we Rivo didn't know who they wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We were having these conversations for a long time, like
I think I think I had maybe I was twenty
five and the show just came out and I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I just turned twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was kind of a long process, Like I think
it was August we started having those conversations and then, uh,
I'm getting my dates mixed up August and then I
think it took like six months maybe until we knew.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Who it was and you got the call and they
were like, hey, we're Sport.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And they were like, we would love to have you
on this season of Die. I know, I think I
was just like, what the hell is going on? I
never I still haven't processed it because I really this
is my third year working at SIR so the whole
time we were filming, I mean, I got used to
cameras being around pretty quickly, Like I went to acting school,
Like didn't really FaZe me that much. All my relationships
(05:16):
were so real and also like falling apart. At the
time that my focus was like I just want to
be good in my job, right and with my friends.
So now it's coming out and I'm reliving it, and
I'm starting to process because now I'm hearing like comments
and opening my phone and seeing us and it's starting
to hit me, right, But like, I still have to
(05:37):
go work Wednesday night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Like it's really crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It is. It is a very strange thing. Yeah, right
where I remember working at sir and then all of
this sudden it was like, here's a camera and people
are going to watch you work, and I'm like, I
don't even know what the hell I'm doing hostessing. This
is like the hardest job I've ever had in my life. Well,
you killed it, I crush, right, Yeah, does Diana still
work it? There?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, she left, you know what.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I just like had a flashback of of when you
wore like whatever outfit and Lisa Mayde put the T
shirt on. But I feel like I wear crazy things
sometimes because I'm a bartender, So I don't like you
being honest. I can kind of wear my own thing
as long as it's like black totally. So I feel
like I kind of pushed that limit sometimes, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's fun to push the limit. And without those limits
being pushed, you don't have a TV show.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
True.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So we're two episodes in. How did people react to
the first episode? I mean, and on it be completely
honest in general?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yes, in general, I think, you know, we'rather against you
guys who were like some of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So we did our best.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We really work together, we really know each other, and
like I thought it was interesting because there was so
much going on at the.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Time, but people were like, well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's not awful, it's not horrible.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That was a win.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think that's a huge win.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Honestly, I think that they have to separate the groups,
the two the two, and everyone's like, well, I wish
it was a season one of a different name, and
it's just a stupid debate that really doesn't even matter anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, it doesn't matter because all of these people who
have these genius ideas, right, is what they think is
a genius idea, they're they're just conversations that are a
waste of time because the network is gonna do whatever
they want to do. And honestly, when I watched the
first episode, it was definitely weird. H it was.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Definitely frick And even seeing that intro, with.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The intro the girl throwing the pedals, I was like, Oh,
I've done.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That before, literally that exact same thing, the same action.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, But I think I think that you guys did
a really great job of carrying a first episode. And
it's gonna be hard for you because it's almost like
reality TV has existed for so long and Bravo has
gotten so big, yeah, that even a new city of
let's just say Housewives is always going to be looked
at as, Oh, they've watched Housewives and they like know
(08:05):
the drill and they're trying to be like they're trying exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And I feel like, at least for me speaking for myself,
like I never tried to be any character person on
the show, you know, no matter what people think, Like,
we're not trying to be any of you guys, Like
it's a lot to juggle filming and bartending and working
and personal stuff like we kuld of think about how
do we how do we be like them? It was
(08:30):
just like what we signed up to do this? Excuse me,
let's just be real, right, But I think some people
actually held back and the people that were real are
the ones that are being talked about right now.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, so you say that you you've basically grown up
in the arts, Yeah, did that prepare you for the
comments section that is now happening for you?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So you don't even care what people are saying. I mean,
I think I care when it's like a character attack.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's more like if she's annoying, I can't stand her voice.
That stuff I don't care about.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Like, I think, when you grow up wanting to be
an acting or singing or whatever it is, you learn
to face rejection really young. So like the rejection is fine,
you don't have to like me. But I think when
I start getting accused of, you know, meddling in people's
relationships or stealing people's boyfriends or texting people's boyfriends inappropriately,
especially by people that really know me, that's where my
(09:26):
feelings starts to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Because I always try to be a good person.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm not perfect, but people that know me know that
I'm a relationship girl. I've pretty much had one relationship
the whole time I was at SIR, and one situationship
with a guy that would come into sir and everyone
knew who he was, so it's like, what are you
guys talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I feel like we're grasping at straws.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, watching this, I guess first and second episode. Is
there something so amazing about having a camera around because
you know when things are being said, you're like, oh,
I can't wait for this to air. I remember when
Jax Taylor told Brittany that I was hitting on him,
and I was like, are you kidding? And Brittany comes
(10:07):
up to me and she's confronting me and she's like,
oh my gosh, this girl is a whore. Everyone was right,
and then it airs and she gets to see his
behavior and how I was not exactly. You were new
on top of it and I was brand new. But
there's things that I'm watching like where I'm like, oh
my gosh, it has to feel so good for you
(10:29):
that the second episode, it's like flashback scene text message
being popped up.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I felt an insane amount of relief.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, isn't that so fun? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But it's like crazy because these girls still believe what
they made up in their minds. It's like, you guys,
see the text now it's right. It's still difficult for
them to accept that I don't want their man.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I know, isn't that it's so crazy. It's this point,
it's kind of just to you problem, right, I can't
help you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And that's why I.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Said And I forgot that I even said this, And
that's that's probably the funny part of watching everything back.
It's like, oh my god, I can't believe I said that,
But I love that when I said, like, I couldn't
hold in a thought if I tried, Like if I
really wanted Marcus, everyone would know about it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, I can't shut up. I can't shut up either.
Give me a fresh set of ears to project into.
And I'm like the happiest camera.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm meeting, because literally how I.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Feel so everyone and their dog, everything about every since
the day I was born, Like, hello, let's go back.
Someone muzzle this bitch. What I want people to know,
(11:40):
especially listening to this podcast and just the Bravo fan base. Yeah,
two things that I that I have noticed where I go, Oh,
this show is gonna be really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, tell me.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The security cam footage of you losing your shit in sir,
you had I'm sure, you had no idea that you
cameras were down. You were not saying, God, this was
a week before because you were amazing a damn fool
of yourself. It was fucking awesome. It felt so real
and authentic. So that shows me, like, you guys are
not putting on for the cameras. I also love that
(12:15):
you mean you guys, but okay, you I love it.
She is me. I'm like, hold on, I'm a one
woman show, baby, lone wolf. Here, you are not putting
on a show. And I also love that you stepped
into this podcast studio and had like text messages and
receipts of yeah, I'm not playing DEMI like you guys
(12:36):
having a back and forth. Cameras are fully down right now,
but shit is still popping off. Oh my gosh, Vander
Pump Rules is alive and wow.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah part two we're doing it all over again, just
new faces.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Can you share what was it, like, what the text
messages were about.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, and she's probably gonna hate me even more, but
at this point, like.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well we can't get her season thirteen, then you know,
I can't wait to be mentioned. You said on that
you're going to be playing La lah, you've read my
private text messages.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But it's like, look what you made me do, like
and sor right in the mirror. I would never have
to do this if you didn't put me in this position.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So you know, there's this whole debate going on.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, the first episode, I say, you, guys, my
ex is driving me crazy. Hence my meltdown in the
middle of sir. And by the way, it's because I
was with family and he wasn't. We weren't on speaking terms.
But then all of a sudden, he's like so sweet
to my whole family, and it triggered me. Oh so
I'm like, oh, we're going to play that game. You're
gonna pretend like everything's fine. Like if everything's fine, and
(13:42):
you're gonna like kiss my dad's ass all night, why
don't you speak to me and look me in the eye.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think you would have lost your shit more had
he been a dick to your dad. I think, no
matter what, you would have lost him.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I think if he avoided us since we just weren't
on speaking terms because he's kind of a shy dude
in general. Yeah, I know, yeah, he didn't have to
like interact with my family, But I think he still
loved me and he wanted to He just knew that
we weren't able to communicate healthily at the time. Now
my dad's here, So what are you gonna do with
when the dad shows up?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh, you're gonna act right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So he acted right, and I was like, hmm, that's
interesting because.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I haven't heard from you in weeks. Someone blocked you
and you fully swatted them down in that secure I mean,
I was in Nearmo's face, like when I get to
that level, like it's it's bad and I'm working on it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But anyways, so I say my ex is driving me crazy,
and under her breath, I didn't hear this that night,
she goes so funny that she says.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Her Rex, bitch, that's not your ex.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's not I.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Think if we're gonna speak facts.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
As I started coming into sir, she was coming out
of a five year relationship, and I guess loved coming
into sir and having a little secret flaying with Pawlo. Okay,
I so get that, like do what you can to
do coming out of your five year relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I had no fucking clue.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But we're talking about the fact that he's a shy guy.
So from her point of view, this young cute girl
starts working at sir and this guy that usually doesn't
speak to anyone is now super interactive with this girl
next to him at the bar all night.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
She was pissed, okay, but she's like, this is the
guy I come here and talk to and text all
night long and say.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But in her confessional, she says that they that she
and Paolo had broken up and you got with him
like a day later. Like, if I'm remembering correctly, she
did say that they were together.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
They weren't together. They barely hung out outside of the restaurant. Well,
the text message is that you have in your phone
proved that exactly. So it's like they would hang out
during closing and like kiss and stuff whatever they were doing.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But how fun? How much fun? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So it must be fun being a manager and having
to be there all night instead of being able to
go home.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, so sorry, I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Let's just get there because I'm tired of it. It's
not her ex okay, And I think you know he
was just tired of the cat and mouse chase with her.
She loved the game, Yeah, because she's getting out of
something just stale, totally dying relationship, and now there's like
this older guy that's like making her feel something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Once, and he's very sexy.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Very sexy. And that's why I dated an older guy.
I want to date like an ugly older guy. He
was not older guy.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yes, no I didn't. I didn't say it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's a big age gap, by the way, for you
and him.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's really big, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I didn't realize how old he was when we started blurting. Actually,
the night that we made out, he told me his
age and I was like, whoa, yeah he's pretty old,
but you don't look it. So I'll I'm just gonna
keep drinking my margarita, pretend like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, so you keep going down in age.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So okay, So the text were where demmy admit that
like they were never together, right, Okay. So she also
called you like miserable or something, and I mean, she's.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Telling me she's going to threaten my life and she
has these apparent screenshots of god knows what, probably nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I have nothing to hide. Seriously, I'll own my shit.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
People love to say that I can't take accountability but
even in the first episode, I tell Chris next to me,
everyone's going to tell you I was crazy and screaming,
which is true, like I can take accountability. So she
sends me a text after we're doing press now, and
I'm gonna clear the situation up because you're not going
to say I stole your boyfriend when he was never
your boyfriend. Totally sorry that you guys had a fling.
(17:29):
This is what I was gonna say. And the game,
the game got old for him because he's too old
for it, and he just moved on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
He should have said I'm gonna move on. This timing
isn't right.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
And like you're beautiful, but I just I don't see
a way forward right. Instead, she's a bitter bitch, saying
you were a second choice.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not a second choice.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I got a text so long that I had to
open it after we've started, after we've started going, it
comes through in notes instead. I mean, I'm working a
brunshift and I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Are you just mad that I'm doing Did you read
the whole thing? At first?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
No, since I was working brunch, And then I had
to go to my gaze and say, we got to
read this message together.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh yeah, the gaze always got the time too. Oh yeah,
I mean I go straight to my gaze. So I'm like,
I got a.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Novel for you, one hundred that's every day.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, okay, so that's what I did.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So she let me know I was a second choice,
and she told me, I thought you knew that, And
so I just sent her a photo of the wedding
rings that we used to wear.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean, we would like pretend to be married.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It wasn't legal, but we remind you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Guys, cameras are down, this is none of this is
being and I said, and it's still happening. It is
so good.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Like I'm so tired, you guys, I have no voice
from her and I screaming at each other the other day.
Like that's why my voice issy. Thanks, Okay, I should
yell more of them. So anyway, so we'll get to
the point. I said, like a second choice. I'm so
sorry that you're distraught over the truth. I love you
and I know you would defend yourself if there were
lies regarding your character too, And she just said, are
(18:57):
you okay? Nothing is worth talking to you. I never
said that he didn't love you. And that you guys
weren't serious. You're batshit. I'm worried about you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
This is what she said to you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, I said, I'm fine. I'm not going to engage
in a text war. The days of you putting me
down constantly are over. Like, I am just so done
being belittled by her, because she talks down to every
single person ever, Like I'm done, I'm done being gasp lit.
She said, you are most definitely not okay, and everyone
even says it, concluding your so called friends. The only
(19:28):
difference is I tell it to your face that text
I sent you was a courtesy instead of me exposing you.
You have no idea the screenshots I have. Don't do
this to yourself. Seriously, don't. You will regret it so much.
I said, I have some of the best friends in
the world. But thank you so much for being so
courteous with your repeated threats. This is getting dark even
for you. This conversation is over. I'm very sorry we
ended up here, and I am because I love her.
(19:49):
I am very sorry this happened, but she did it
so Then she said, this is where I said, thank you.
You just outed yourself. I was never in love with Paolo,
and I never claimed I was. If I wanted to
be with him, I would have done it. He's my friend.
In capital letters. We had a fling. I've never tried
to claim otherwise. Did she watch the show or does she?
(20:13):
Does she have amnesia? Does she need medical help?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
If you could actually read the text I sent you,
I mean I read it with the gaze, so I
had witnesses try to process it like an adult, you
would see exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Natalie.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You clearly you uh. I said that she's a straw
over the truth. No, Natalie, clearly you are. Otherwise you
wouldn't have responded to that text with only the rings.
I've told you how much he loves you and that
he and I were never meant to be together. I'm
just telling you facts, which is things that he has
literally said to me multiple times.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You are delusional.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
The only reason I even text you the shit is
because talking to you in person is impossible, because I
can never get a warden because I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Let you say bullshit in my face. Shut up, shut up,
shut up, shut up. I don't time to hear your bullshit.
So that's where we're at it's you said you love her,
I do, and all that You're not gonna be good
after this. We're already not good. Well you're about to
be not good. I'm just like, if.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You're gonna drag me, let's see you try. Like, I
don't think whatever she has, there's no way. It's like
as scary as she's making it out to be. I
literally couldn't imagine what it is.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Who are you closest with on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm close with Venus for years.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's your bestie. Yeah, we're super close. My one of
my gays. Yeah, yeah, it's one of the gays. And
then we have like a whole group. Now he actually
moved in with another one of our gays, so like
now they live together.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's so condised that it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Was it squashed the beef between I forgot their name,
Marcus and his girlfriend the one who says Venus and
him and them, No, the girlfriend of Marcus Kimberly saying
that Kimberly was saying that you would flirt with her man,
and it shows him on TV being like, no, we're
like brother and sister. But anything that you said that
I know does she finally believe you, because at the
(22:13):
end of the episode two, she's crying to you. I
hope either she ignored you about polish.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, and it like our toast looked really cute and
I wish she actually looked at them.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I love that you guys are making white polish like
not Oh, I see what you mean. You know what
I mean. Yeah, one of our cast members used to
wear white nail polish and like, no one could wear
white nail polish after that. Well, I was upset because
I'm like, white nail polish makes me look really tan.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's exactly right, that's why it's so cute on the toes,
so cute on the toes.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, she ignored you with that, and then she's crying
to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm like, I've been trying to talk to you guys
for months, and all you do is insult me, talk
down to me, Like I.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Don't get I don't get why they.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Feel so comfortable picking me apart, and that's why I
speak up for myself and then I get called a
name for that too. It's like it's a lose lose
situation for me, and I really don't know why I'm
just like trying to accept it. And I have my
other friends because at this point, I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Are fucking toxic, fake mean people.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think that, No, it's easy to come for somebody
who will give it back to you. Yeah, right, Like
you're not timid, You're not a raging bitch. You probably
can be.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, we all can have a little rage, just
if you bring it out of me and you hurt me.
That's the thing is it's all coming from like genuine
hurt feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Would you say that you're probably the star so far
of vander Pump Rules reboot.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I hate that word.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I keep hearing that and I think it's such a compliment.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But the word I would use is the most vulnerable,
the most authentic. I mean, there are people having all
sorts of stuff going on in their lives while we're
filming that they won't even bring to the show.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wait really Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was like, if I'm going to do this, I'm
gonna I'm going to be one hundred percent me. I'm
not gonna you know, even in some of those last interviews,
especially when you know we met the network and they
met us, it wasn't just like Baskin and all of them.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now, this was like a big boardroom of people meeting us.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I was telling them about my life and my childhood,
and they would say, is this off limits? Is this
off limits? I'm like, nothing's off limits. I want to
be in this room. If my life was off limit, totally,
my life is. I'm good with my life. I'm good
with myself.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
How did your family feel about you signing up for
a show like this?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, my family situation is super complicated. I don't
know if you're going to see much about it this
season because it's just so much drama. And there are
other people that have like difficult family situations, and I
think that's more important right now than like my family beef.
But I don't have a great relationship with my mom really,
(24:58):
I've probably seen her and full of times in the
past seven years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now, has it always been that way, like since you
were a child?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I think it's so funny because in the first episode,
I say, Ariana grew up in the neighborhood next to me,
which is true? And where is that in Bolgratone? Okay,
kind of near Miami, in between Palm Beach and Miami.
Oh you're a Florida girl. Yeah, And I think like
I did a lot of the same training programs as her.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And when I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like I was just so hungry to be like a
child star, be working. And I think she thought I
could be the next Ariana. And I think she treated
me like sometimes not like her kid and like her
protege or something. Okay, you know, so as I got
older that that didn't really play out well. As like
(25:49):
I went through being a teenager and like really needed
like guidance and a mom. And my stepdad raised me
since I was three, and they had a divorce in
high school and once they separated, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Just like me on my own.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I failed out of high school.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All the people that I went to high school with
watching this me walking in that graduation was they did
me a favor. I did not graduate high school. My
senior year failed completely. I was completely depressed, pulling my
hair out, taking klonopin. In the middle of school. I
would wake up on my teacher's floors because I would
pass out from saying so much colnopin. I was a mess,
(26:26):
and my mom was just not present whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Thank you, Thank you, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well it seems okay, okay. I'm very impressed by you,
by the way, because for me, is it I remember
being twenty seven when I wasn't in a drunken stupor.
I got sober when I was twenty eight. But and again,
I don't know what you and the cast will go
through on this journey, but you know, yeah, I found
(26:57):
myself going through an addiction issue, hiding a relationship where
I was very much whether I knew it or chose
not to see it, whatever the nuances are of that,
but ended up in a position of being a mistress.
I ended up getting sober on the show, my dad
dying on the show. There's gonna be so much that
you guys will go through that's going to be documented.
(27:19):
And again I don't know you. I'm just meeting you
for the first time now, but I think that you
have a wonderful future and a lot of opportunity in
front of you if you take the bowl by the
balls and you just keep your eye on the price.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not even you know, I try
to think of my life in like a year's span
because it's all I can handle.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's like, well, a year ago, I was just bartending
and kind of in a relationship that wasn't perfect and
figuring that out. Also, my dog had cancer, Like that
was terrible. I'm still like paying off those medical bills.
It was horrible. But you know, I rescued a dog
and it was my responsibility to take care of her.
So she's deaf in one year, she's perfect now almost
the year later. So yeah, now looking last year versus
(28:00):
this year, now it's like, well, this year, we're doing this.
You know, I'm closer with my good friends than ever, Like,
I don't need people like what you're seeing in my life.
And I think throughout the show, I beg them to
be good with me because I love them. I'm begging
us to just not have this drama and be okay.
And I think now now I'm learning that I can't
(28:20):
beg people to be in my life if they are
committed to misunderstanding me. There's nothing I can do. I
can get on my hands and knees and paint her
tolls white myself, It's there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
No, But you guys are going to go through a
lot of ups and downs together. And I think, what
makes what makes life beautiful but also a successful show. Yeah,
is resilience within a group, because it makes it impossible
for a show to go on if things happen that
can't be forgiven.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yes, which might be a problem, but it's not mine anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, well, you have no control over it. I hope
that the rest of the cast and you know, again,
we're what two episodes in, we'll see what happens. But
I hope that you can all find a way to
navigate like this newfound fame. Yeah, this weirdness of like
live your life, but let's document every second and then
we're going to edit it down. You filmed for four
hours today, it's going to be about two minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's it's that's a crazy thing to say too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
To see how much gets Yeah, and yeah, I really
I haven't really had that experience.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But I was watching it with Audrey, who I'm also
really close with and met her before we started filming,
so then her and I just became even closer, and
Hermie and Venus were hanging out eating McDonald's last night,
like you know, oh, it's just the best. Yeah, So
they were watching them having like a manifestation session yeah,
which is adorable positive, which is what we need.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, this group of people and.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
They were like, wow, we really did that for so
long and that was like two minutes long.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's a lot, right, You're like, damn, you can't get
married to any of your scenes? No?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, uh.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I think there's one thing that I know won't be
in it that I'm really pissed about. But I just
have to swallow it. Just swallow it, baby. Everyone loves
a swallower. I've heard at least.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
What are you the most nervous about being part of
the show now and what people are going.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
To see most nervous is it's crazy. I feel like
I'm most nervous about like picking up my lexapro on time.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't really know what I'm nervous of. I think
I'm I'm not nervous. I feel like I moved here
to have a voice and be creative and like level
up as a human being, and like that's what I'm
doing and even if it's uncomfortable, like it's fine, not nervous.
I'm sure one day I'll cry or regret saying that
(30:54):
it's not going to be perfect.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's already not perfect.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think you're in a great position for your first season.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Trying to think of something that's making me nervous and
I don't know nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I love that you don't have to think about it.
If it doesn't come right to you, then you're not nervous,
and I think that's totally okay. I'm going to keep
you around for the bonus. Thank you so much for
joining me on untraditionally La La You guys, thank you
for listening to another episode. I love you. I'm going
to catch you on Monday for the bonus and again
next week. Bye.
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