June 29, 2024 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington and Plaxico Burress talk about the NBA Draft, the influx of overseas players this year, the Lakers drafting Bronny James at 55 in the 2nd round, the NFL runs afoul of antitrust rules, and more!
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That you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it
was they was putting hands on you.
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it's been a minute, been a minute. It's good to
hear your voice. Man, how's everything going. How you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Man? Oh man, everything is great, man.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
A little bit of heat wave hill on the East
coast for the last you know, two weeks. Got some
pretty decent weather today, prit.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah. Man, you know how it is over here. He's
high pollen count. Oh man.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know you look at your phone and you get
that air quality alert.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You already know what's going on out here.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
When it's hazy first thing in the morning, you already
know what it's gonna be around two three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Do you walk around do you end up looking yellow
by the end of day? Man? You know how?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, you know how it is with those black cars. Man,
you get your car wash and you leave it outside
for like three hours. Man, You're like, damn, what happened?
What happened?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Get that good watch job on it, and try to
blow that thing off for you to start moving around.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, the nice cars you be driving. You know
shit stop yeah, speaking of nice cars.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Plex there was an NBA draft and and well, I'm
sure there'll be some nice cars getting getting bought up
or have already been bought up. But you know, I
wanted I wanted to ask you this, I know, coming
out of the first day of the draft. And we'll
get to Brownie later. We'll get to him coming up
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in the second second segment of the show, but I
think right now I would love to get your opinion
and your take on there being so many overseas players.
You get the one and the two, then you get
a number six and number twelve, so just outside of
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the ten you get one.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And it's just that's a lot. That's a lot of
overseas players.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And to think that you know, the dream team, you
know the dominance of American basketball, USA basketball, and now
two years in a row you have a overseas player
that goes tops in the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What what was Did you have a take on it?
You know what?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
You know what Kobe Bryant said this was going to happen,
you know, ten years ago when he came out and said,
you know, and one day in this NBA, the players
from overseas are going to become more skilled basketball players
and the players in the US because of the fundamentals,
the details. Those guys are actually working on their game
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to get to the NBA. And and you look at
the NBA today who are arguably two of the best
players in the world Joker, Joker and and Luca and Luca.
So when you look at it from that aspect, you
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you're talking about these guys from France and you know,
Serbia and all these guys from overseas, they are basically
when there when they're kids, everybody basically idolizes somebody. And
and that's how it is. When you're a kid, you know,
you want to play basketball, and they're idolizing guys that
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they see on TV in the NBA. You know what,
I want to be like that guy to get to
the NBA. So that's why I believe that you're seeing
the transition from you know, all of these, all of
the American born players versus the guys overseas is because
you know, this whole AAU program with basketball, it's really
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taken away from the details and the teaching from you know,
from an American point of view to uh to uh,
you know, develop young talent over here. And I'm just
one of the main reasons because of this insurgence of
these players from overseas, because we're not developing our own
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players and kids here, everybody will everybody wants to bag,
everybody wants to make the highlights on Instagram and on
and on social media and sports and and all of
these things. And I'm not saying that we don't have
you know, fundamentally sound players, but the players from overseas
are more well rounded basketball players, uh, you know coming
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into our league. Do you think that that's a symptom
of how how things are structured from educational perspectives and
all of that. You know, in America. This may sound offensive,
but I just you know, I like shoot from the hip.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
We like to act as though academics is more important
than athletics. That's why they call athletics and sports extra
curricular activities. They don't consider them curricular activities, so it's extra.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And and to me, when you know, when.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I've traveled overseas, bro you can go to places where
it's all about soccer, where it's all about rugby, where
it's all about out tennis, where it's all about baseball,
where it's all about basketball. You know, and and I
used to ask a questions like, well, you know, what
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is that?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What does that represent?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Like they say it's really really hard to get into
these academies or whatever it may be, but that literally
becomes their their lifestyle. Like they've gone to basically a
university as a kid and are developed in that sport
in particular for all these years. Do you feel like,
I mean, with that being said, we are talking development.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
When is the time?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When is there like what what structure exists in America
where you could actually have the all day amount of
time that some of these guys are receiving and these
guys are receiving abroad.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But you know what that is what I believe what
the I'm genes of the world trying are trying to
do right right get these kids in that setting twenty
four to seven. And you know, it was something that
we were thinking about for my daughter because she's just
so passionate about basketball. She plays basketball all day, every day.
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She's driven the basketball. And I'm saying to were saying
to ourselves that, man, listen, we don't have enough time
to dedicate to her for the amount of passion that
she has for this sport. So what can we do
to maximize everything that she wants to do and wants
to become.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And you look at it.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And Yannis the Joker, Luca, these guys are playing professional
basketball at fourteen and fifteen years old. Yeah, so when
they get to the when they come over to the NBA,
these guys are basically already seasoned and the maturity level
is a lot higher than the guys fourteen years old
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here because of what we're doing. We're still in middle school.
They have they have a four or five year jump
on us as far as from an experience standpoint of
playing and learning how to play the pro basketball early
at that level and play on those stages four or
five years before we even graduated high school.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And we don't have that. Was like, we have rules
on us, right like you have that you have to
go to college.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
So I think that That's one of the main reasons
also why you're seeing so many players overseas coming to
the NBA and you're like, well, what the hell would
did did a Luca Daunches come from? Why is he
so good coming into his first year? You know what,
He's been playing pro basketball for the last six years,
since he was fourteen to fifteen years old. And that's
why you've seen these guys come up with the success
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that they're having because they've they've already done it while
we're still in you know, ninth grade. What were you
doing in ninth grade? You was like playing everything exactly,
So we're trying to figure out out next what exactly
all were going.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They've been doing it for so long. This is why
the reason.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
In the NBA crony right now you can say that
for the top five players in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Off from overseas.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I mean you could expand that because you can get
into Embied, you can you can get into so many
other guys that are are from abroad that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, and you look at guys like SGA like they're
from Canada.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, and there you got Canadian players. I mean Edie, right,
isn't Edie from Canada? Zach Edy, Zach Edy, And speaking
of Zach Edy, you know the the you know, college
was well represented in the top ten picks, especially with
Kentucky and Connecticut having two each go in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So they're the blue bloods.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Did place, They did place, they just did not place
or grade out as high as oversea players. I think
it's an interesting conversation that will persist.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What does that look like?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know, when you know, if the Olympics take place
and you see is it the dream team anymore?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Or is that just the dream? You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
To see how much has the world caught up to
Americans in terms of their ability to play basketball. But
that's a question that won't be answered today, but it
will be debated for days and days and months and
all that stuff to come. So oh yeah, there was
a day too, and that storyline was dominated by one brownie, James.
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Would he get drafted? How would that be received? What
winning talk about that? On the other side of this break,
you're listening to up on game that's Plexico burs I'm
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Speaker 3 (12:05):
Hey, what's up everybody.
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It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington, and I
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What is Up on Game? You ass along with my
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Speaker 4 (12:52):
We are live from the Tireck dot com studios. It's
Plexico Bursts, It's LeVar Arrington. Hello, we got some breaking.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
The Athletic has just reported that Lebron James intends to
opt out of his fifty one million dollar player option
for next season, and that the expectation is that Lebron
will return to the Lakers on a new deal.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
All right, well, you know what, Ilo, it sounds like, yeah,
well I take fifty one when I can get maybe
double that or who knows, you know, you know what
they say, double the pleasure, double the fund, double mint
with double mccum. I mean, I don't know, but how
do you feel about that, Plexico burst? I mean, it
(13:44):
just sounds like, why don't they just give ownership to
Why don't they just award him some ownership because he
definitely runs it for this Lakers team.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What what's your your impression of that? I mean, that's
what it seems like to me.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean, we're sitting here watching Rob Polinka do all
these interviews with the hiring and JJ Redick and said
he was saying that Lebron was very supportive in the
process and he.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Wasn't involved, but he was supportive.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know, everything that we had to say about JJ Redick,
And we're like, dude, man, they're on the same podcast again,
like what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He was supportive? Of course, that's the main.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Reason why he was considered a candidate fun of but
get go, if he was not on this podcast with
Lebron James, he would not be the head coach of
the Los Angeles Lakers right now. Let's just get out
there and just say that. And then on the second
part of it, in this interview a couple of days ago,
Polik goes on there and says, you know what, it
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wasn't even really about basketball. If something like this is
going to happen in the NBA history, why not let
it happen in the Lakers jersey and the Lakers uniform,
meaning that you know, Lebron and le BRONI will be
the first father son duo to play on the same
team NBA history. Why not make this happen in a
(15:07):
lake of Jersey. So you might as well just say, look, listen,
Lebron's from the team. It's okay. I know you're hide
behind the facts of what we already know, but it's
just too many things happening in this organization. That's that's
that's telling us that he is really pulling the strings
of Genie Buss and Rob Polink of this this organization
(15:31):
and give me God, I was going to ask you,
I was gonna follow up with you in terms of
what you're saying. I do think that people people understand that. Listen,
you get a player of Lebron James caliber on your
your roster, you're not you're not going to want to
lose that player.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
That's that's first and foremost right. That's you just don't
want to lose that player. That's that's one. Secondly, once
you realize that, okay, well you're going to have to
do some things. You may have to do some things
that you might not want to do in order to
keep him around.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And listen, I would ask you this.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Does it being historical, it happening in the Lakers' uniform,
that's great, But do you feel as though Bronnie James
getting drafted at fifty five was like was it a
legitimate draft pick even with knowing the influence of Lebron
James or is this one of those things where it's
(16:37):
like come on, Like is it a come on moment
or is it a like, ah, legit, like yeah, the
kid caball you know, fifty five, there's only you know
what fifty eight or so picks in the NBA draft like, yeah,
get the guy go.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You know, man, it's a little bit of both of me.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think Lebron, you know, obviously, you know, had everything
that with what transpired with as far as the Lakers
taking him at fifty five, But at the same time,
the draft wasn't really that good. This was not a
great draft. To be drafted at fifty fifth, I think
really says it's a lot. And they were saying that
(17:16):
basically Rich Paul was picking up the phone calling teams
don't draft him before fifty five. He's going to Australia.
Is Brownie James that great of a player that that
that an organization would not take him because they were
afraid that their draft pick was going to Australia.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, come on, man, we got to stop that.
We drafted we really were. We got to stop that
he wasn't getting drafted.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Oh you're threatening us that he's going to Australia if
we draft him. Trust me, he's not that dominant or
going to be that great of a basketball player for
a GM and an organization not to draft him. Come on, man,
I mean, I don't know they're going draft him and
will will take your rights, you know, We'll take that rights.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I'm gonna get to what what the biggest deal to
me about this whole thing is, Okay, we are going
to do everything for our kids.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It doesn't matter what it is in life.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
We are going to help them accomplish whatever they we
need to do as parents because that is what we
are supposed to do. But I'm saying I have nothing
to say about barne jay. I think he's a I
think he's a good basketball player. Do I think he
was a player that should have been drafted. I do not.
But I think that the position that Lebron has put
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this young man in it's unfair to him because here
here he is a guy that everybody's saying, he's not
an NBA player. He's he averaged four points in in
in college.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Does there's not one player in.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
College basketball that would average four points and two rebounds
and into himself and enter himself into the NBA draft
as a frank, not one player in the world would
ever do that. But he can do it because of
it's who his father is. No players going into the
draft averaging four points in college it's not going to happen.
(19:20):
They're going to stay another year or maybe or maybe
two or three years. But Bronnie has that uh you know,
he has the privilege of doing those things because of
who his father is. And I just think that from
a mental and a psychological standpoint, this young man is
still a kid, and he is He's no longer going
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to be able to go out on the basketball court
outside of basketball and really enjoys life because people are
really going to be in this man. From a mental standpoint,
it's a difference. When me as a player playing in
the arena, I've had people say things to me. I
was like, man, whatever, you know, when you fan, you
just scrumbled, whatever, whatever. I'm gonna play my game. But
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when when somebody goes out of their way to openly
disrespect your child in front.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Of you, it's it's different. It is different.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's different, and people are going to be pushing that
button for him and.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Lebron Somebody's going to crack at one point in.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Time because somebody is going to say something so greedious
to this young man. As a father, you're gonna have
to react. And now it's basically, you know, he's under
he's under your wing, he's under your arm.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And as a parent, you're gonna protect your child at
all at all costs.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And now when your child is being disrespected in front
of you, what do you do as a parent.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It has nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Now they are disrespecting you and him in front of you.
So from a young from him from his standpoint, what
this he do from a mental and a psychological standpoint,
day in and day out, people saying these things to him. Listen,
I don't care what nobody says. People are off athletes say, Oh,
(21:10):
I don't care what they saying about me. You listen,
you hear it. It does have an effect on you,
whether you want to recognize it or not. So from
that point of view, that is what I want to
you know, know and understand. How what is the reaction
going to be from Lebron and himself when these people
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are constantly in this young man's ear and disrespecting him
in front of his father.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
See, I feel like they're going to develop him. He's
not even gonna play. He just wants He just wanted
to get They just wanted to get him that roster.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
No, he's gonna he's going to be in a lacer
uniform on Opening Night, LeVar.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, I know, I get it, but he ain't gonna
get in the game. Of course he's getting in the game.
Are you crazy? I don't think so. I can't see it.
I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Listen is going to get in the game, LaVar, Do
you understand what is going to think?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
So, now they are basically saying they want to know
if Bronnie James is playing summer league or not, because
all of his games are going to be on prime time.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But you already know what that is. You know what
that is?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Talking to Tim Hardaway. They don't know if he doesn't
play in a summer league.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What is that? What does that say? They don't want
to show what we already know exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
He's not like Listen, he has to play a plexico
let let plexico. Let's be clear here, Listen, I'm gonna
make this personal because this is the only way I
can I base things off of my understanding of what
my life experiences have been.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If if Bronnie James is.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
A guy in the NBA, that means that every last
one of us that played high school ball, that got
recruit that to play college ball, could could play in
the NBA. And if that's the case, I recall us
having this debate not too long ago about who the
better athletes were, and the kid Austin Rivers coming out
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and saying that everybody in the in the NBA could
play in the NFL, but you couldn't find anybody in
the NFL to play in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Does it isn't the credibility of the NBA now up
for debate. Is it the credibility of know what it
takes to be an NBA player up for debate.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's not because people are afraid to tell Lebron James no.
They won't. They won't tell him no. Just it was
one person to tell him no, and that was Pat Raleigh.
Lebron James went to pat Raley, asked him to fire
Xpochure and pat Raley said no. Lebron left them, went
to the Lakers. That's the reason why he's playing for
the Lakers right now because pat Raley told him no.
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The credibility of the of the NBA is what it's
going to be as long as Lebron James is a
part of your basketball team.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Dang.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And that's the unfortunate part of the whole thing, and
everybody saying this, You know, Bonnie James, he's going to
come into the summer league or he's going to come
into the regular season with a chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What about these guys that he's going to be playing
against in the summer league that are undrafted? Right? What
about those guys playing legiti?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Man, Listen, I was averaging twenty points in college and
I didn't get drafted. This guy's averaging four points and
he gets drafted. He's on the Lakers. Every time this
young man steps on a court, geese guys are gone
to try to expose him defensively, offensively, to show him
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and to everybody else that he does not belong in
this league.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You know, I was thinking when I saw the draft
pick take place, I was like, man, somebody knew this
was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And it was Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Did Michael Jordan come out with a movie called Like Mike, Like,
wasn't a dude that wasn't Little.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Bow Wow playing in the n b A in the movie.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
That's like, to me, this is like Little bow Wow
making it into the NBA. Like, don't you think he's
gonna he's gonna look I think he's gonna look out
of place in the n b A.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I know I sound like a hater, but I just
I look at it like this, and it's like, at
what cost do you.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Do you go to? Like, at what lengths do you
go to for what? Like? What what is the They've
already done it. There is no left.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
They will go to whatever they have to to make
whatever to what James want to?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What end to what end?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Like you said about the summer league thing, all right,
that's that's a great topic. If he's not playing in
the summer league, you already know it's because why him, because.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
He's gonna get a dress. Why is he not playing
some league?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
If he isn't, it's because they know he's gonna get
undressed in the summer league and he does play. If
he does play, and they televising all them games, you know,
somebody in the NBA offices is sitting there like, okay,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You wanna play that game. We're gonna put all these
games on prime time.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You know why, because we're gonna want to see this
dude get exposed.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So why have you not rich Paul Lebron in the
Lakers organization come out and say if Brownie James is
playing some league or not, because they want to know
because they're gonna put all the teams on primetime television.
Why haven't they come out and say that he's playing
on some illeague or not.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Why is it even a question? How many other? How
many other? None? Rookie says none is not. Tim Hardaway
told me it's never happened before.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, So again, everything that everything is based around never
happened before.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What are you like that?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
First of all, I said, this is an Ocean of
eleven type of film here, right.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
They stole a fifty fifth pick, like.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
There's somebody sitting at home or went in free agency
or whatever it may be, that should have been the
fifty fifth overall pick in the NBA draft that didn't
get picked. That's I think we would all agree on that.
We'd all agree on that. If you're not kissingron Lebron's
ass in this scenario and you just keeping it all
the way a buck, you do know that with all
(27:27):
of what you're doing to be able to play with
your son, you have set your son up for a
tremendous failure and a tremendous fall.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I mean, this is this again. I look at it
like this.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I would never think that I'd be able to play
football long enough where my son would be able to
play with me and we'd be on both ends and
on the line of scrimmage and we book ends together.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
But let me tell you something. One thing I would not.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Do is sit there and do this to get my
son into the NFL and get him drafted if his
production was slim to nothing when he was in college
for one year. I would not do that because I not,
not for the simple fact of anything else other than
(28:12):
you're if you can't do it at this level, there
is absolutely no way in hell you're gonna be able
to do it in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You get away with a.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Lot of things that you wouldn't be able to get
away with in the college ranks. And I have to
believe and assume that that's the same for for basketball
as well. I wouldn't just for the sake of doing it.
I got my son on this team. I wouldn't do
it because of kind of what you're alluding to. What
you're saying is that this is a scenario where he
(28:45):
could get like brutalized. Like I don't I don't know.
I don't know how bad it gets it. I don't
know bad it gets an NBA. But I know if
man Man was out there and he couldn't do it
in college and we got him in as a freshman.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
They gonna they gonna, I mean, they might have to
cart him up out of there.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to tell you, Mane, you don't understand
what these guys. These guys are going to grow on
this step on his basketball courte. They're gonna try to
embarrass this young man every time he steps on the
court because of the privilege. Because there's no player ever
in college history that would enter themselves into the NBA draft.
(29:24):
Averaging full points in college basketball doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
All right, let me ask you this. Let me ask
you this before we go to our update. Let me
ask you this. Let me give you this. A basketball
purist will say, and as we heard Lebron say in
years past, when Bronnie was in high school, Lebron was
on a quoted saying, you know, Bronnie is better than
most of these dudes I'm playing against in the NBA
(29:48):
right now. He put that out there while the kid
was at Sierra Knyon. All right, let me put this
in front of you real quick. If that's the case,
a basketball purist will say, well, we know what it's
already going to be. Like if y'all knew basketball, if
y'all followed basketball closely, y'all would know that Brownie is
already playing against a lot of these guys on the circuits,
(30:08):
like he has the opportunity, based upon his exposure being
with his dad, to play against this talent. So he's
already acclimated to playing against this type of talent.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's just now being in the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Uniform in the NBA's I'm certain that that's going to
be the rebuttal or what somebody that says people like
us don't deserve to talk basketball or anything like that
because we don't know anything. That's fine, you call it
what you want to call it. But a basketball purist
might put that out there. What say you to that.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Man when you say that he's playing at the level
of competition that he will play it the next level.
I'm just looking at the guards in the Western Conference.
John Moran SGA Luca, what's Anthony edw was step Curry,
(31:01):
and you're saying to yourself, if you put him on
that list, who is he going to guard and who
is he gonna score on? It's mom boggling that you
think that this young man is going to go out
on the basketball court and average ten twelve points in
the NBA and he averaging four in college.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Well, I'm curious about the whole summer league thing, see
how that all plays out.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But why why haven't they come out and said if
he's going to plan a summer league or not. I
just don't even think it needs to be a conversation.
You're supposed to play. Why why is it a topic
of conversation. I don't know. You're because it's supposed to.
It's supposed to happen regardless.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Every rookie that gets drafted into the NBA plays in
the summer league. But it's a secret with Brownie James.
And that's for a reason.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That's for a reason, and that's plexico burst.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Let's get a trending with my guy, Isaac lower Crawl.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
What you got, why, thank you, LeVar. And what we
got is Lebron James and the athletic indeed reporting a
short time ago that Lebron intends to opt out of
his fifty one million dollar player option for next season,
and that the expectation is that Lebron will return to
the Lakers on a new deal.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I would think so.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Elsewhere, Lakers guard D'Angelo Russell reportedly plans to opt into
the final year of his contract for eighteen point seven
million dollars. ESPN reported today Russell Westbrook is picking up
his four million dollar player option to return to the
Los Angeles Clippers, while Miami's Kevin Love is declining his
four million dollar player option with the Heat. Right now,
(32:40):
in soccer, the round of sixteen underway at Euro twenty
twenty four, and Switzerland has just scored to take a
one nothing lead over Italy, the goal in the thirty
seventh minute by Remo Freula. They are now in the
thirty ninth minute again Switzerland leading Italy one to other thing.
As I guess Switzerland did a good job of finding Remo.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But I'm bump you.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Guys, ha ha, all right, thank you is low and
crun uh.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
We're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
And on the other side of the break, a judge
rules that the NFL violated the antitrust laws and Sunday
ticket case a couple dollars in a couple of dollars
in that that case, and we'll talk about that on
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Speaker 3 (34:14):
Okay, plex A judge.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Rules that the whole antitrust thing with the NFL and
this Sunday ticket and the lawsuit and everything that took place.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
The ruling said there were damages.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Of a whopping and I mean whopping four point eight
I believe, is that is that correct?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Bo Benson? Four point eight four point seven? Excuse me?
I went up a point one what up?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
A point one four point seven billion in damages.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Now, granted this will be appealed, but this was a jurry.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
A jury awarded four point seven billion in damages, which
means that in this lawsuit, anyone who you know was
you know, a part of you know, the Sunday ticket
for I guess a certain amount of time. They're they're
going to get, you know, I guess reimbursed for whatever
it is that that took place. But they're they're going
(35:26):
to nonetheless probably be appills, to be tied up in
the pills and different things like that. But I mean, man,
what was your what was your reaction when you saw
this this judgment come down?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I wonder, I wonder how much all thirty two owners
of those NBA teams, like Roger Goodell now because every
team has to pay four hundred and forty nine million
dollars test not just from the NFL. If every team
has to pay four hundred and forty nine million dollars
(36:01):
for this at the current state of what the damages
are for four plus billion, four plus billion dollars every
team has to pay.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And what does that mean for like.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
These smaller market teams like Jacksonville, the Detroit Line. I mean,
that's almost a half of billion dollars. Yeah, we're talking
about a lawsuit of five almost five hundred million dollars
for every organization. And they're looking around saying to themselves,
where the hell are we going to get five hundred
(36:34):
million dollars from? I mean what I think the the
Jacksonville Jaguars are worth what two and a half maybe
three billion dollars. You're talking about coming up with five
hundred million. So I believe it's gonna be tied up
in the pills. But the fact that either the NFL
came out and said they thought they had the rights
(36:54):
to sell the direct TV Sunday ticket to anybody that
they grew want to because they owned it. They did
not own it, they were under contract, but they thought
that they had the rights to sell it because of
course it's the shield and anything in the NFL that
they put on TV or they promote, they think that
(37:16):
is theirs. So four hundred and forty million dollars for
each team, man that's a whole lot of cheese that
these owners are going to have to cough up to,
you know, to pay this lawsuit. You think it will
eventually happen. Huh, they ain't gonna get out of it.
I think it's not going to happen if one jury
comes out and says, listen, they're siding with Sunday Ticket
(37:38):
and you know this, this is what you guys. Oh,
they can tie it up into appeals or whatever the
case may be, as long as they want. But I
don't think this lawsuit is going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
All right.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
So you mentioned Roger Goodell in this, and I hadn't
thought of it that way. It didn't come up what
we discussed it during the week. What impact does this?
I mean, is that a decision that Roger Goodell would
be directly connected to?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And if so, that's like you said.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
You're if they have to end up paying this and
they don't win it appeals, this is something where I mean,
that's a debilitating type of judgment against these teams, against
the league. What does that mean for the job stability?
In your opinion for Roger Goodell?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I mean, if you're an NFL you don't like the
fact that you're gonna have to call up almost half
a billion dollars for his lawsuit. And he probably just
went out on his own because he's he's just you know,
he's gonna take every dollar that comes to him.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And that's what that's what that's what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
And now we're playing NFL games on Friday nights. He
got one hundred and fifty million dollars for that. The
NFL got one hundred and fifty million dollars. We're playing
again a game on Netflix or whatever the case on
a Friday night. So he's going to he is going to,
you know, navigate every option that he possibly can to
(39:08):
further pad pad his pockets because what is he making
fifty He writes his own self a check every year
for fifty million dollars. That is what he earns as
being the owner of the of the NFL. But if
you're an owner, now you're like, all right, man, enough
is enough. You know, we have been you know, by
(39:29):
your side and been with you for the last fifteen,
twenty years or whatever the case are going to be.
But for you to go out there and make this
move and now we're responsible for like your arrogance with
the shield and thinking thinking that you put us in
a bad situation. I mean, they could be you know,
you never know the demids of Roger Goodell. But he's
(39:51):
going to continue to shot the game that they're playing
in Brazil and playing on Netflix. They sold it to
Amazon Prime and and all of those things. So he's
gonna find he's going to continue to shop this game
and at every measure. But the owners right now, they
are the ones that have to pay this fine, not him.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
He's gonna have to figure out how to come up
with the difference of that and what it is that
he creates.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Because that's that's.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
A who that's a that's a that's a big nut
to crack right there. But all that's a that's a
whole lot of that's a whole lot of money going
going out.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
That's that's that's double the salary cap. Dog that's that's
that's a law.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So now you're talking about teams paying a salary cap
playing that players for one year, and now you're talking
about shelling out another four hundred and forty nine men.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's almost a billion dollars in one year.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
In one year, all right, Well, you heard Plexico Burns
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interesting things to say about Michael Parsons.
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Uh.
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it's been a minute, been a minute. It's good to
hear your voice. Man, how's everything going. How you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Man? Oh man, everything is great, man.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
A little bit of heat wave hill on the East
coast for the last you know, two weeks. Got some
pretty decent weather today, prit.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah. Man, you know how it is over here. He's
high pollen count. Oh man.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know you look at your phone and you get
that air quality alert.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You already know what's going on out here.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
When it's hazy first thing in the morning, you already
know what it's gonna be around two three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Do you walk around do you end up looking yellow
by the end of day? Man? You know how?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, you know how it is with those black cars. Man,
you get your car wash and you leave it outside
for like three hours. Man, You're like, damn, what happened?
What happened?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Get that good watch job on it, and try to
blow that thing off for you to start moving around.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, the nice cars you be driving. You know
shit stop yeah, speaking of nice cars.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Plex there was an NBA draft and and well, I'm
sure there'll be some nice cars getting getting bought up
or have already been bought up. But you know, I
wanted I wanted to ask you this, I know, coming
out of the first day of the draft. And we'll
get to Brownie later. We'll get to him coming up
(03:06):
in the second second segment of the show, but I
think right now I would love to get your opinion
and your take on there being so many overseas players.
You get the one and the two, then you get
a number six and number twelve, so just outside of
(03:31):
the ten you get one.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And it's just that's a lot. That's a lot of
overseas players.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And to think that you know, the dream team, you
know the dominance of American basketball, USA basketball, and now
two years in a row you have a overseas player
that goes tops in the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What what was Did you have a take on it?
You know what?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
You know what Kobe Bryant said this was going to happen,
you know, ten years ago when he came out and said,
you know, and one day in this NBA, the players
from overseas are going to become more skilled basketball players
and the players in the US because of the fundamentals,
the details. Those guys are actually working on their game
(04:23):
to get to the NBA. And and you look at
the NBA today who are arguably two of the best
players in the world Joker, Joker and and Luca and Luca.
So when you look at it from that aspect, you
(04:43):
you're talking about these guys from France and you know,
Serbia and all these guys from overseas, they are basically
when there when they're kids, everybody basically idolizes somebody. And
and that's how it is. When you're a kid, you know,
you want to play basketball, and they're idolizing guys that
(05:03):
they see on TV in the NBA. You know what,
I want to be like that guy to get to
the NBA. So that's why I believe that you're seeing
the transition from you know, all of these, all of
the American born players versus the guys overseas is because
you know, this whole AAU program with basketball, it's really
(05:25):
taken away from the details and the teaching from you know,
from an American point of view to uh to uh,
you know, develop young talent over here. And I'm just
one of the main reasons because of this insurgence of
these players from overseas, because we're not developing our own
(05:46):
players and kids here, everybody will everybody wants to bag,
everybody wants to make the highlights on Instagram and on
and on social media and sports and and all of
these things. And I'm not saying that we don't have
you know, fundamentally sound players, but the players from overseas
are more well rounded basketball players, uh, you know coming
(06:09):
into our league. Do you think that that's a symptom
of how how things are structured from educational perspectives and
all of that. You know, in America. This may sound offensive,
but I just you know, I like shoot from the hip.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
We like to act as though academics is more important
than athletics. That's why they call athletics and sports extra
curricular activities. They don't consider them curricular activities, so it's extra.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And and to me, when you know, when.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I've traveled overseas, bro you can go to places where
it's all about soccer, where it's all about rugby, where
it's all about out tennis, where it's all about baseball,
where it's all about basketball. You know, and and I
used to ask a questions like, well, you know, what
(07:11):
is that?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What does that represent?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Like they say it's really really hard to get into
these academies or whatever it may be, but that literally
becomes their their lifestyle. Like they've gone to basically a
university as a kid and are developed in that sport
in particular for all these years. Do you feel like,
I mean, with that being said, we are talking development.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
When is the time?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When is there like what what structure exists in America
where you could actually have the all day amount of
time that some of these guys are receiving and these
guys are receiving abroad.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But you know what that is what I believe what
the I'm genes of the world trying are trying to
do right right get these kids in that setting twenty
four to seven. And you know, it was something that
we were thinking about for my daughter because she's just
so passionate about basketball. She plays basketball all day, every day.
(08:15):
She's driven the basketball. And I'm saying to were saying
to ourselves that, man, listen, we don't have enough time
to dedicate to her for the amount of passion that
she has for this sport. So what can we do
to maximize everything that she wants to do and wants
to become.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And you look at it.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And Yannis the Joker, Luca, these guys are playing professional
basketball at fourteen and fifteen years old. Yeah, so when
they get to the when they come over to the NBA,
these guys are basically already seasoned and the maturity level
is a lot higher than the guys fourteen years old
(09:00):
here because of what we're doing. We're still in middle school.
They have they have a four or five year jump
on us as far as from an experience standpoint of
playing and learning how to play the pro basketball early
at that level and play on those stages four or
five years before we even graduated high school.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And we don't have that. Was like, we have rules
on us, right like you have that you have to
go to college.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
So I think that That's one of the main reasons
also why you're seeing so many players overseas coming to
the NBA and you're like, well, what the hell would
did did a Luca Daunches come from? Why is he
so good coming into his first year? You know what,
He's been playing pro basketball for the last six years,
since he was fourteen to fifteen years old. And that's
why you've seen these guys come up with the success
(09:46):
that they're having because they've they've already done it while
we're still in you know, ninth grade. What were you
doing in ninth grade? You was like playing everything exactly,
So we're trying to figure out out next what exactly
all were going.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They've been doing it for so long. This is why
the reason.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
In the NBA crony right now you can say that
for the top five players in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Off from overseas.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I mean you could expand that because you can get
into Embied, you can you can get into so many
other guys that are are from abroad that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, and you look at guys like SGA like they're
from Canada.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, and there you got Canadian players. I mean Edie, right,
isn't Edie from Canada? Zach Edy, Zach Edy, And speaking
of Zach Edy, you know the the you know, college
was well represented in the top ten picks, especially with
Kentucky and Connecticut having two each go in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So they're the blue bloods.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Did place, They did place, they just did not place
or grade out as high as oversea players. I think
it's an interesting conversation that will persist.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What does that look like?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know, when you know, if the Olympics take place
and you see is it the dream team anymore?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Or is that just the dream? You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
To see how much has the world caught up to
Americans in terms of their ability to play basketball. But
that's a question that won't be answered today, but it
will be debated for days and days and months and
all that stuff to come. So oh yeah, there was
a day too, and that storyline was dominated by one brownie, James.
(11:33):
Would he get drafted? How would that be received? What
winning talk about that? On the other side of this break,
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The Athletic has just reported that Lebron James intends to
opt out of his fifty one million dollar player option
for next season, and that the expectation is that Lebron
will return to the Lakers on a new deal.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
All right, well, you know what, Ilo, it sounds like, yeah,
well I take fifty one when I can get maybe
double that or who knows, you know, you know what
they say, double the pleasure, double the fund, double mint
with double mccum. I mean, I don't know, but how
do you feel about that, Plexico burst? I mean, it
(13:44):
just sounds like, why don't they just give ownership to
Why don't they just award him some ownership because he
definitely runs it for this Lakers team.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What what's your your impression of that? I mean, that's
what it seems like to me.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean, we're sitting here watching Rob Polinka do all
these interviews with the hiring and JJ Redick and said
he was saying that Lebron was very supportive in the
process and he.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Wasn't involved, but he was supportive.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know, everything that we had to say about JJ Redick,
And we're like, dude, man, they're on the same podcast again,
like what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He was supportive? Of course, that's the main.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Reason why he was considered a candidate fun of but
get go, if he was not on this podcast with
Lebron James, he would not be the head coach of
the Los Angeles Lakers right now. Let's just get out
there and just say that. And then on the second
part of it, in this interview a couple of days ago,
Polik goes on there and says, you know what, it
(14:44):
wasn't even really about basketball. If something like this is
going to happen in the NBA history, why not let
it happen in the Lakers jersey and the Lakers uniform,
meaning that you know, Lebron and le BRONI will be
the first father son duo to play on the same
team NBA history. Why not make this happen in a
(15:07):
lake of Jersey. So you might as well just say, look, listen,
Lebron's from the team. It's okay. I know you're hide
behind the facts of what we already know, but it's
just too many things happening in this organization. That's that's
that's telling us that he is really pulling the strings
of Genie Buss and Rob Polink of this this organization
(15:31):
and give me God, I was going to ask you,
I was gonna follow up with you in terms of
what you're saying. I do think that people people understand that. Listen,
you get a player of Lebron James caliber on your
your roster, you're not you're not going to want to
lose that player.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
That's that's first and foremost right. That's you just don't
want to lose that player. That's that's one. Secondly, once
you realize that, okay, well you're going to have to
do some things. You may have to do some things
that you might not want to do in order to
keep him around.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And listen, I would ask you this.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Does it being historical, it happening in the Lakers' uniform,
that's great, But do you feel as though Bronnie James
getting drafted at fifty five was like was it a
legitimate draft pick even with knowing the influence of Lebron
James or is this one of those things where it's
(16:37):
like come on, Like is it a come on moment
or is it a like, ah, legit, like yeah, the
kid caball you know, fifty five, there's only you know
what fifty eight or so picks in the NBA draft like, yeah,
get the guy go.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You know, man, it's a little bit of both of me.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think Lebron, you know, obviously, you know, had everything
that with what transpired with as far as the Lakers
taking him at fifty five, But at the same time,
the draft wasn't really that good. This was not a
great draft. To be drafted at fifty fifth, I think
really says it's a lot. And they were saying that
(17:16):
basically Rich Paul was picking up the phone calling teams
don't draft him before fifty five. He's going to Australia.
Is Brownie James that great of a player that that
that an organization would not take him because they were
afraid that their draft pick was going to Australia.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, come on, man, we got to stop that.
We drafted we really were. We got to stop that
he wasn't getting drafted.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Oh you're threatening us that he's going to Australia if
we draft him. Trust me, he's not that dominant or
going to be that great of a basketball player for
a GM and an organization not to draft him. Come on, man,
I mean, I don't know they're going draft him and
will will take your rights, you know, We'll take that rights.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I'm gonna get to what what the biggest deal to
me about this whole thing is, Okay, we are going
to do everything for our kids.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It doesn't matter what it is in life.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
We are going to help them accomplish whatever they we
need to do as parents because that is what we
are supposed to do. But I'm saying I have nothing
to say about barne jay. I think he's a I
think he's a good basketball player. Do I think he
was a player that should have been drafted. I do not.
But I think that the position that Lebron has put
(18:44):
this young man in it's unfair to him because here
here he is a guy that everybody's saying, he's not
an NBA player. He's he averaged four points in in
in college.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Does there's not one player in.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
College basketball that would average four points and two rebounds
and into himself and enter himself into the NBA draft
as a frank, not one player in the world would
ever do that. But he can do it because of
it's who his father is. No players going into the
draft averaging four points in college it's not going to happen.
(19:20):
They're going to stay another year or maybe or maybe
two or three years. But Bronnie has that uh you know,
he has the privilege of doing those things because of
who his father is. And I just think that from
a mental and a psychological standpoint, this young man is
still a kid, and he is He's no longer going
(19:43):
to be able to go out on the basketball court
outside of basketball and really enjoys life because people are
really going to be in this man. From a mental standpoint,
it's a difference. When me as a player playing in
the arena, I've had people say things to me. I
was like, man, whatever, you know, when you fan, you
just scrumbled, whatever, whatever. I'm gonna play my game. But
(20:06):
when when somebody goes out of their way to openly
disrespect your child in front.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Of you, it's it's different. It is different.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's different, and people are going to be pushing that
button for him and.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Lebron Somebody's going to crack at one point in.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Time because somebody is going to say something so greedious
to this young man. As a father, you're gonna have
to react. And now it's basically, you know, he's under
he's under your wing, he's under your arm.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And as a parent, you're gonna protect your child at
all at all costs.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And now when your child is being disrespected in front
of you, what do you do as a parent.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It has nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Now they are disrespecting you and him in front of you.
So from a young from him from his standpoint, what
this he do from a mental and a psychological standpoint,
day in and day out, people saying these things to him. Listen,
I don't care what nobody says. People are off athletes say, Oh,
(21:10):
I don't care what they saying about me. You listen,
you hear it. It does have an effect on you,
whether you want to recognize it or not. So from
that point of view, that is what I want to
you know, know and understand. How what is the reaction
going to be from Lebron and himself when these people
(21:30):
are constantly in this young man's ear and disrespecting him
in front of his father.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
See, I feel like they're going to develop him. He's
not even gonna play. He just wants He just wanted
to get They just wanted to get him that roster.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
No, he's gonna he's going to be in a lacer
uniform on Opening Night, LeVar.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, I know, I get it, but he ain't gonna
get in the game. Of course he's getting in the game.
Are you crazy? I don't think so. I can't see it.
I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Listen is going to get in the game, LaVar, Do
you understand what is going to think?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
So, now they are basically saying they want to know
if Bronnie James is playing summer league or not, because
all of his games are going to be on prime time.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
But you already know what that is. You know what
that is?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Talking to Tim Hardaway. They don't know if he doesn't
play in a summer league.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What is that? What does that say? They don't want
to show what we already know exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
He's not like Listen, he has to play a plexico
let let plexico. Let's be clear here, Listen, I'm gonna
make this personal because this is the only way I
can I base things off of my understanding of what
my life experiences have been.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If if Bronnie James is.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
A guy in the NBA, that means that every last
one of us that played high school ball, that got
recruit that to play college ball, could could play in
the NBA. And if that's the case, I recall us
having this debate not too long ago about who the
better athletes were, and the kid Austin Rivers coming out
(23:15):
and saying that everybody in the in the NBA could
play in the NFL, but you couldn't find anybody in
the NFL to play in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Does it isn't the credibility of the NBA now up
for debate. Is it the credibility of know what it
takes to be an NBA player up for debate.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's not because people are afraid to tell Lebron James no.
They won't. They won't tell him no. Just it was
one person to tell him no, and that was Pat Raleigh.
Lebron James went to pat Raley, asked him to fire
Xpochure and pat Raley said no. Lebron left them, went
to the Lakers. That's the reason why he's playing for
the Lakers right now because pat Raley told him no.
(23:55):
The credibility of the of the NBA is what it's
going to be as long as Lebron James is a
part of your basketball team.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Dang.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And that's the unfortunate part of the whole thing, and
everybody saying this, You know, Bonnie James, he's going to
come into the summer league or he's going to come
into the regular season with a chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What about these guys that he's going to be playing
against in the summer league that are undrafted? Right? What
about those guys playing legiti?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Man, Listen, I was averaging twenty points in college and
I didn't get drafted. This guy's averaging four points and
he gets drafted. He's on the Lakers. Every time this
young man steps on a court, geese guys are gone
to try to expose him defensively, offensively, to show him
(24:44):
and to everybody else that he does not belong in
this league.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You know, I was thinking when I saw the draft
pick take place, I was like, man, somebody knew this
was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And it was Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Did Michael Jordan come out with a movie called Like Mike, Like,
wasn't a dude that wasn't Little.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Bow Wow playing in the n b A in the movie.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
That's like, to me, this is like Little bow Wow
making it into the NBA. Like, don't you think he's
gonna he's gonna look I think he's gonna look out
of place in the n b A.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I know I sound like a hater, but I just
I look at it like this, and it's like, at
what cost do you.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Do you go to? Like, at what lengths do you
go to for what? Like? What what is the They've
already done it. There is no left.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
They will go to whatever they have to to make
whatever to what James want to?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What end to what end?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Like you said about the summer league thing, all right,
that's that's a great topic. If he's not playing in
the summer league, you already know it's because why him, because.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
He's gonna get a dress. Why is he not playing
some league?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
If he isn't, it's because they know he's gonna get
undressed in the summer league and he does play. If
he does play, and they televising all them games, you know,
somebody in the NBA offices is sitting there like, okay,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You wanna play that game. We're gonna put all these
games on prime time.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You know why, because we're gonna want to see this
dude get exposed.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So why have you not rich Paul Lebron in the
Lakers organization come out and say if Brownie James is
playing some league or not, because they want to know
because they're gonna put all the teams on primetime television.
Why haven't they come out and say that he's playing
on some illeague or not.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Why is it even a question? How many other? How
many other? None? Rookie says none is not. Tim Hardaway
told me it's never happened before.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, So again, everything that everything is based around never
happened before.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What are you like that?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
First of all, I said, this is an Ocean of
eleven type of film here, right.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
They stole a fifty fifth pick, like.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
There's somebody sitting at home or went in free agency
or whatever it may be, that should have been the
fifty fifth overall pick in the NBA draft that didn't
get picked. That's I think we would all agree on that.
We'd all agree on that. If you're not kissingron Lebron's
ass in this scenario and you just keeping it all
the way a buck, you do know that with all
(27:27):
of what you're doing to be able to play with
your son, you have set your son up for a
tremendous failure and a tremendous fall.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I mean, this is this again. I look at it
like this.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I would never think that I'd be able to play
football long enough where my son would be able to
play with me and we'd be on both ends and
on the line of scrimmage and we book ends together.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
But let me tell you something. One thing I would not.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Do is sit there and do this to get my
son into the NFL and get him drafted if his
production was slim to nothing when he was in college
for one year. I would not do that because I not,
not for the simple fact of anything else other than
(28:12):
you're if you can't do it at this level, there
is absolutely no way in hell you're gonna be able
to do it in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You get away with a.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Lot of things that you wouldn't be able to get
away with in the college ranks. And I have to
believe and assume that that's the same for for basketball
as well. I wouldn't just for the sake of doing it.
I got my son on this team. I wouldn't do
it because of kind of what you're alluding to. What
you're saying is that this is a scenario where he
(28:45):
could get like brutalized. Like I don't I don't know.
I don't know how bad it gets it. I don't
know bad it gets an NBA. But I know if
man Man was out there and he couldn't do it
in college and we got him in as a freshman.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
They gonna they gonna, I mean, they might have to
cart him up out of there.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to tell you, Mane, you don't understand
what these guys. These guys are going to grow on
this step on his basketball courte. They're gonna try to
embarrass this young man every time he steps on the
court because of the privilege. Because there's no player ever
in college history that would enter themselves into the NBA draft.
(29:24):
Averaging full points in college basketball doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
All right, let me ask you this. Let me ask
you this before we go to our update. Let me
ask you this. Let me give you this. A basketball
purist will say, and as we heard Lebron say in
years past, when Bronnie was in high school, Lebron was
on a quoted saying, you know, Bronnie is better than
most of these dudes I'm playing against in the NBA
(29:48):
right now. He put that out there while the kid
was at Sierra Knyon. All right, let me put this
in front of you real quick. If that's the case,
a basketball purist will say, well, we know what it's
already going to be. Like if y'all knew basketball, if
y'all followed basketball closely, y'all would know that Brownie is
already playing against a lot of these guys on the circuits,
(30:08):
like he has the opportunity, based upon his exposure being
with his dad, to play against this talent. So he's
already acclimated to playing against this type of talent.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's just now being in the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Uniform in the NBA's I'm certain that that's going to
be the rebuttal or what somebody that says people like
us don't deserve to talk basketball or anything like that
because we don't know anything. That's fine, you call it
what you want to call it. But a basketball purist
might put that out there. What say you to that.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Man when you say that he's playing at the level
of competition that he will play it the next level.
I'm just looking at the guards in the Western Conference.
John Moran SGA Luca, what's Anthony edw was step Curry,
(31:01):
and you're saying to yourself, if you put him on
that list, who is he going to guard and who
is he gonna score on? It's mom boggling that you
think that this young man is going to go out
on the basketball court and average ten twelve points in
the NBA and he averaging four in college.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Well, I'm curious about the whole summer league thing, see
how that all plays out.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But why why haven't they come out and said if
he's going to plan a summer league or not. I
just don't even think it needs to be a conversation.
You're supposed to play. Why why is it a topic
of conversation. I don't know. You're because it's supposed to.
It's supposed to happen regardless.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Every rookie that gets drafted into the NBA plays in
the summer league. But it's a secret with Brownie James.
And that's for a reason.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That's for a reason, and that's plexico burst.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Let's get a trending with my guy, Isaac lower Crawl.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
What you got, why, thank you, LeVar. And what we
got is Lebron James and the athletic indeed reporting a
short time ago that Lebron intends to opt out of
his fifty one million dollar player option for next season,
and that the expectation is that Lebron will return to
the Lakers on a new deal.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I would think so.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Elsewhere, Lakers guard D'Angelo Russell reportedly plans to opt into
the final year of his contract for eighteen point seven
million dollars. ESPN reported today Russell Westbrook is picking up
his four million dollar player option to return to the
Los Angeles Clippers, while Miami's Kevin Love is declining his
four million dollar player option with the Heat. Right now,
(32:40):
in soccer, the round of sixteen underway at Euro twenty
twenty four, and Switzerland has just scored to take a
one nothing lead over Italy, the goal in the thirty
seventh minute by Remo Freula. They are now in the
thirty ninth minute again Switzerland leading Italy one to other thing.
As I guess Switzerland did a good job of finding Remo.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But I'm bump you.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Guys, ha ha, all right, thank you is low and
crun uh.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
We're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
And on the other side of the break, a judge
rules that the NFL violated the antitrust laws and Sunday
ticket case a couple dollars in a couple of dollars
in that that case, and we'll talk about that on
the other side of it. It's up on Game. This
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Speaker 3 (34:14):
Okay, plex A judge.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Rules that the whole antitrust thing with the NFL and
this Sunday ticket and the lawsuit and everything that took place.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
The ruling said there were damages.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Of a whopping and I mean whopping four point eight
I believe, is that is that correct?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Bo Benson? Four point eight four point seven? Excuse me?
I went up a point one what up?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
A point one four point seven billion in damages.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Now, granted this will be appealed, but this was a jurry.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
A jury awarded four point seven billion in damages, which
means that in this lawsuit, anyone who you know was
you know, a part of you know, the Sunday ticket
for I guess a certain amount of time. They're they're
going to get, you know, I guess reimbursed for whatever
it is that that took place. But they're they're going
(35:26):
to nonetheless probably be appills, to be tied up in
the pills and different things like that. But I mean, man,
what was your what was your reaction when you saw
this this judgment come down?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I wonder, I wonder how much all thirty two owners
of those NBA teams, like Roger Goodell now because every
team has to pay four hundred and forty nine million
dollars test not just from the NFL. If every team
has to pay four hundred and forty nine million dollars
(36:01):
for this at the current state of what the damages
are for four plus billion, four plus billion dollars every
team has to pay.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And what does that mean for like.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
These smaller market teams like Jacksonville, the Detroit Line. I mean,
that's almost a half of billion dollars. Yeah, we're talking
about a lawsuit of five almost five hundred million dollars
for every organization. And they're looking around saying to themselves,
where the hell are we going to get five hundred
(36:34):
million dollars from? I mean what I think the the
Jacksonville Jaguars are worth what two and a half maybe
three billion dollars. You're talking about coming up with five
hundred million. So I believe it's gonna be tied up
in the pills. But the fact that either the NFL
came out and said they thought they had the rights
(36:54):
to sell the direct TV Sunday ticket to anybody that
they grew want to because they owned it. They did
not own it, they were under contract, but they thought
that they had the rights to sell it because of
course it's the shield and anything in the NFL that
they put on TV or they promote, they think that
(37:16):
is theirs. So four hundred and forty million dollars for
each team, man that's a whole lot of cheese that
these owners are going to have to cough up to,
you know, to pay this lawsuit. You think it will
eventually happen. Huh, they ain't gonna get out of it.
I think it's not going to happen if one jury
comes out and says, listen, they're siding with Sunday Ticket
(37:38):
and you know this, this is what you guys. Oh,
they can tie it up into appeals or whatever the
case may be, as long as they want. But I
don't think this lawsuit is going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
All right.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
So you mentioned Roger Goodell in this, and I hadn't
thought of it that way. It didn't come up what
we discussed it during the week. What impact does this?
I mean, is that a decision that Roger Goodell would
be directly connected to?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And if so, that's like you said.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
You're if they have to end up paying this and
they don't win it appeals, this is something where I mean,
that's a debilitating type of judgment against these teams, against
the league. What does that mean for the job stability?
In your opinion for Roger Goodell?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I mean, if you're an NFL you don't like the
fact that you're gonna have to call up almost half
a billion dollars for his lawsuit. And he probably just
went out on his own because he's he's just you know,
he's gonna take every dollar that comes to him.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And that's what that's what that's what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
And now we're playing NFL games on Friday nights. He
got one hundred and fifty million dollars for that. The
NFL got one hundred and fifty million dollars. We're playing
again a game on Netflix or whatever the case on
a Friday night. So he's going to he is going to,
you know, navigate every option that he possibly can to
(39:08):
further pad pad his pockets because what is he making
fifty He writes his own self a check every year
for fifty million dollars. That is what he earns as
being the owner of the of the NFL. But if
you're an owner, now you're like, all right, man, enough
is enough. You know, we have been you know, by
(39:29):
your side and been with you for the last fifteen,
twenty years or whatever the case are going to be.
But for you to go out there and make this
move and now we're responsible for like your arrogance with
the shield and thinking thinking that you put us in
a bad situation. I mean, they could be you know,
you never know the demids of Roger Goodell. But he's
(39:51):
going to continue to shot the game that they're playing
in Brazil and playing on Netflix. They sold it to
Amazon Prime and and all of those things. So he's
gonna find he's going to continue to shop this game
and at every measure. But the owners right now, they
are the ones that have to pay this fine, not him.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
He's gonna have to figure out how to come up
with the difference of that and what it is that
he creates.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Because that's that's.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
A who that's a that's a that's a big nut
to crack right there. But all that's a that's a
whole lot of that's a whole lot of money going
going out.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
That's that's that's double the salary cap. Dog that's that's
that's a law.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So now you're talking about teams paying a salary cap
playing that players for one year, and now you're talking
about shelling out another four hundred and forty nine men.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's almost a billion dollars in one year.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
In one year, all right, Well, you heard Plexico Burns
giving that that knowledge and that wisdom. Yeah, that's right,
that's Stretched Armstrong. I'm LeVar Arrington. We're heading in the
hour two. We're gonna talk some some football. Continue to
talk some football, Brandon I you. Malie Hooker had some
interesting things to say about Michael Parsons.
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Yeah, we're gonna get on to all that. So make
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