March 1, 2025 • 40 mins
LaVar Arrington & Plaxico Burress talk about Colorado QB Shedeur Sanders and WR/CB Travis Hunter’s comments out of the NFL Combine, the Rams restructuring Matt Stafford’s contract, and more!
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Is up on game? We got a few topics to
get you today. I think you'll be interested in them
as well. We'll have some great conversation about it. TJ
is in Indianapolis for the combines, so he will be
off today, but make no mistake about it. There's three
of us, and you know what, you could be had
by at least one of us. So you know what,
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there's two of us here. I got my man stretched armstrong.
He's in the house. Before we get to everything that,
we're gonna get you because we're gonna talk to the
door Sanders in a few moments. Anne Travis Hunter obviously
can't talk about one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
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Speaker 3 (02:04):
How's it going where you're at? How is it? What's
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Speaker 4 (02:08):
You know what? It's unseasonably warm today, man, unseas listen
to how for you? He's approaching sixty almost. It's been
a strange week. We got over sixty one day this
past week, and they say maybe spring is coming a
little earlier. Normally doesn't come this early. But the weather's
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actually not that bad today.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That is a beautiful, beautiful thing, my guy.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
And you know what, speaking of good weather, well I
heard it was good weather surrounding our guys Chador Sanders
at the draft and where we were at so or
where they were at, where TJ is at. Uh, And
here's what he had to say. And I'm gonna get
your opinion on this. I'm gonna get your take on
this after we listened to it. But I had some
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interesting thoughts on it. But here's what your door said
has had to say at the combine during an interview.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
We went from Jackson State to Colorado and changed two
programs back to back.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So you don't think I could come to NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Franchise and change the program again.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's history. We've done it again. It's so he's gonna
repeat itself.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
If you ain't trying to change the franchise or the coach,
that don't give me. So you should know history repeats
itself over and over and over. And I've done it
over and over and over, so it should be no
question why NFL franchised should pick me.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I'll say this, plex I don't see any lies in
what he's saying. I love his confidence. One of the
things that I find to be breathtaking about Shador because
I've known Shador for a really long time and at
the Under Armour Games for as many years.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
As we were.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He participated in our eighth grade game as well. Just
that belief and that buy in to being great and
the work that it takes to be great, in the
mindset that it takes to be great. I mean, I
know that Cam Newton came under a lot of scrutiny
and a lot of criticism for saying that he went
into a locker room that maybe had losing ways of
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losing mentality and he hadn't been a part of that,
but he was going to be a part of changing
it and making it a winning culture. He ended up
taking that team and leading them to a super Bowl
and an MVP year. Do you feel as though like
some people subscribe to like say it, stand on it,
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own it and run with it and rock with it
and see where you know it all ends up. Some
people subscribe to the idea just keeping it to yourself
and just going out there improving it and then your
success is the best indicator of what it is that
was ultimately meant to be. Do you like Shador's approach?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Do you not like it? Where do you fall on it?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, I'm not surprised by his approach. I mean, we
out to know who his father is, and they're they're
going to be very outspoken and you know what they
believe about themselves as as people, as competitors and competitors
and as players. But I think for your do at
this point in his life, man, it's just simply comes
down to can he be a great quarterback at the
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next level. I mean, everything that he said has been true.
He was obviously a great high school player. He was
he was a great quarterback at Jackson State and and
look at what what he was has been able to
accomplish at Colorado and now it's on too. He is
arguably going to be, you know, one of the best
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player in this draft. He's one of the best two
quarterbacks in his draft. So I just think that with
him moving forward is can he play football at the
NFL level and can he go out and have some
of the same successes that he's had in college and
high school and throughout his whole life. But don't expect
him to, you know, come into any organization and to
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be shy about what he's going to say behind the
podium on a microphone, because he's going to voice his opinion.
And though that's just one of the things that you know,
whoever drafts him is from an organization standpoint, they're going
to have to deal with on a daily basis or
weekly basis, because you know that when the media talks
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to the team or the coach, the quarterback speaks for
this organization every single day. And he's going to be
the head of a franchise and he's not going to
shy away from anything that they ask him. He's going
to be truthful. He's going to you know, state the facts.
People are not going to like it, but that is
who he is as a person and you know as
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a player, and you know Deon has came out and
support it. Look, he said what he said.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He said what he said.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Let me ask you, that's plex you played for multiple organizations,
so you had the opportunity to be around different groups
of upper management. You know, the people who make the decisions,
the corporate side of it, the owners, the scouts, the salespeople,
all those things. And you know, I'm always a big
stickler on talking about building and growing your brand. It's
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always been a part of my conversations. It's a It's
a major part of athletics and being in those different organizations.
What would your assessment or assumption be, will his type
of approach and how he is will it fit in
in the NFL at the NFL level, knowing how those.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
People are, man, you know this and I know this.
It depends on who the owner and the general manager
all of the organization, because they're a teller on that
give us some context that there are not teams will
take the less of the player that as a as
a lesser player than the player that has this, you know,
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boatsful attitude about who he is a player and as.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
A person perception of him being a boastful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Exactly. It depends on who is who is going to
draft him, knowing that whatever comes out of his mouth,
he's going to say it. And I think that moving
forward for all these NFL teams, they know that when
they ask a door questions, people are going to ask
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Dean the same question and so they are going to
listen to what's being said not only from his son,
but from his point of view, and that is what's
going to these organizations are going to have to deal
with him moving forward. Is that you know how outspoken
they are. And a lot of these teams don't like that.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Even if it's positive, Like I find it.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Curious, even if it's positive, you know how it is.
It's like it's like humility first, yeah, and that that
is what is the The athlete is changing, the quarterback
position is changing, and the NFL has not. Basically, you know,
turned that corner of what these young men moving forward,
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who they are going to be as players and people
and it's not the norm. So when it's not the
normal or if it's outside of the box, people don't
accept it. So now they are more engaged to what
that person or that player is saying, trying to get
a feel of who that person is and are they
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able to adapt to how these young players and athletes
perceived are perceived.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'll say this looking at how things have been when
I played, you know, during our time. This is a
touch and go type of moment because as a player,
how do you think we handle a kid coming into
which that's what we would say, right, we got a
kid coming into our locker room that is already sitting
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there saying the things that he's saying, and if he's
coming into our locker room, that is a if I'm
not a new player in his locker room, that's a
direct shot at us as players. So I just wonder,
I know we're up on the break, but just super quickly,
from your perspective, do you think the team that drafts
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Shador Sanders do you think the locker room will be
supportive of Shador being the way that he is and
being bold in his proclamations. Do you think that Dion Deon,
senior coach Prime, do you think he plays a major
role in maybe shaudor getting that type of grace from
not only the players in the locker room, but maybe
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even the organization themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Does does all.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Elements play a part in what Shador Sanders, how he'll
be received in the in the locker room. Let's just
start with the locker room super quickly. Do you feel
like that fits the mold?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It doesn't, It doesn't, It doesn't fit the mold. You know,
you know what these NFL locker rooms are like man,
fifty three sixty different personalities of of of young men
and more I would say, more leaning to more of
the veteran guys. These guys have who have already been
you know, first team All Pros and Pro Bowlers and
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having played you know, six seven, eight years in it
and have established a successful career playing in the league.
With Chador coming into that locker room, it's basically gonna
come down. Look, look, man, we know you can talk.
Can you go out and play football? Can you make
us a better football team? And can we compete to
win a division of a division? Wherever he goes? Because
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moving forward for him, he's already he's already spoken. What
he's done in college speaks for a sent Now when
you walk into the locker room, you know how these
locker rooms are. You know how these young men are. Man,
respect is earned on that football field. They don't care
what you're talking about. When we line up, when you
get on the center, does everything that's coming out of
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your mouth match up to your performance? And that's all
it's gonna come down to. For sure.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
M that's pretty interesting to hear. I mean, that's that's
certainly out the gate with some real game. That's Plexico Burst.
I'm LeVar Arrington. Listen up.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You know, Shador Sanders teammate Rich Eisen had something interesting
to say on Pat McAfee's show about what Travis Hunter
had to say, and he had some interesting thoughts on
Travis Hunter. We're gonna talk about that on the other
side of the break. Matthew Stafford, well, you know, Tom Brady,
Matthew Stafford skiing, you know, having a good time talking
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Key King. Ah wow, oh Tom Brady. Ope for two,
let's talk about it. This is Up on Game. It's
Fox Sports Radio. Like I said, it's Varmplex. TJ's at
the combine doing what he does, the Lord's work with
those young men that are coming into the league.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
But we got it for the day. All right, We'll
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Speaker 5 (13:21):
All right, everybody, all right, Pablo, Yeah, okay, all right,
all right, welcome back in. This is Up on Game.
We are live from the Tyrack dot com studios. It's Plexico,
Buris is LeVar Arrington, TJ is in Indy for the combine.
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But we've been having some great conversations and a lot
of it has has come from the combine.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I mean, let's move on to the next megastar.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
From from Colorado and keep it Colorado centric. Uh. Travis
Hunter is making no bune about it. In my estimation,
plex that he wants to be a two way player.
And I think there are pundits that actually agree with
what it is that Travis Hunter is talking about. Before
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I get your opinion and your assessment on it, and
I know we talked about it and shows prior and
I have to say what I have to say. I
stand on it, but we'll get to that. Here's what
Travis Hunter had to say while he was being interviewed
on the podium at the NFL Combine.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
They saying everybody, nobody has ever done it for real
the way I do it. But I tell him that
I'm just different. I'm a different person. I don't know
about returning. I already got two jobs on my hand,
all right.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well that that clearly if you're saying I don't know
about returning, because I already have two jobs on my hand,
on my hands, I think that you're referencing. I think
it's safe to say.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think it's safe to say plex. I think it's
safe to say.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That that he is assuming that he is going to
play offense and defense. Now, before you take it, Here's
what rich Eisen had to say, and I thought this
was interesting. Here's what he had to say on Pat
McAfee's show.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Why isn't Travis Hunter number one overall? Because he is
a unicorn? And by the way, he just came up
with a SoundBite of the week as far as I'm concerned.
He was asked at his press conference, will I think
while you were talking to Tyrese here, you know, are
you going to return punts and kicks? And his answer was,
I already have two jobs, beast, which I already have
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two jobs? Like everybody, back off, I'm a freaking unicorn.
So why why isn't he considered first overall?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
All Right, there's there's a lot of directions. This one
could go in stretch a lot. And again I mentioned
a couple of different things as it applied to what
Shador had to say.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Uh, you know again, I guess it applies to.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
The these states mints in these comments as well. I
will first start by saying this, plex I think it's
amazing that he has the type of self belief and
confidence that he has in himself. Clearly the influence of
Coach Prime and others and others, Big G Big George
Hegeman is there and Warren.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Sapp is there. Do you got guys there?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
You know? Obviously Cam comes around, Terrell Owens comes around,
the influence of positive energy of high achievers is clearly
a major major impact on how these young men are
handling themselves and how they're handling the media. Obviously, Bucky
Dion's son, his oldest son, Dion Junior, has built an
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amazing business off of capturing the content, but not only
capturing the content, but doing what Something that's super passionate
for us and what we do in media is to
be able to teach these young guys how to handle
them elves in front of a camera and not be
afraid of expressing themselves and saying the things that they
truly feel if they know in their hearts that this
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is what they're going to achieve and what they're going
to accomplish. But with that being said, there are people
in up top that aren't going to like hearing what
someone like what Travis Hunter had to say, I already
have two jobs. What do you mean? You know there's
fifty three man roster, You know what I mean? I
think it expanded, whatever it is. But the bottom line
here is and you have veterans that are on that
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team that's like, Bro, you have been taking one snap
in the league. You think you different? And he's going
to feel that in his locker room. Don't do you
think it's beyond the realm of possibility that his teammates
are going to make sure he understands that the NFL
is full of unicorns. You're just now figuring that out, maybe,
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but it's full of you the corns.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What say you man?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know I was always told that everybody's playing, everybody
that's playing at the next level in the NFL, they
deserve to be there, and they're there for a reason.
I wouldn't jump out the window and say it's a
league full of unicorns.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
There there are great players. There's probably three or four
when it comes to unicorns as far as playing on
this level, and some of the names that you just mentioned,
Dion we all know he's a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Coach of Colorado Unicorn.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Warren Sap he was a Unicorn defensive tackle when he
was playing football, because he was probably the best defensive
tackle that you had ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In our era.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So when when they hold these interviews and these press
conferences about Travis Hunter, Sap iterated the word good and great.
He said, he's not a good player, Travis Hunter. He's
he's going to be a great player at the next level.
You're talking about. Uh, these Sap, Dion Sanders, they have
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played at the elite level of the elite.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
These guys have gold jackets already. So when I hear
the likes of a you know, to O and a
Dion and a Sap talk about the ability of this
young man, I will take their word over guys that
have coached for twenty and thirty years that have never
played at the next level. Over I'm not going to
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take their word over a Sap or a to O
or Deon Sanders, because I know that these guys go.
I know that these guys know and understand what the
game of football is really like at the next level,
and you know, you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Know how it is coming in. They're not going to
be a lot of guys that that like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Him, and that's fine, It's okay. When he steps out
on a football field, he's going to prove to himself
first and the guys in the locker room and the
organization that he is one of these unicorns coming into
this league. And I believe he's going to be a
great player. And listen to to what rich Eisen had
to say about him, saying, why why is he not
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the first player selected in this draft?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Because accurate? Should he be number one?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, it comes down to need. I think he's the
best player in the draft. But if you're Tennessee or
you're the Cleveland Browns and you know you need a
franchise quarterback moving forward, that's the only reason why he
is not the first pick in his draft because it
comes down to need. And when you look at Travis
Hunter and what he brings to a football team, you're
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looking at the top four teams in the draft Tennessee,
Cleveland Browns, the Giants, and the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I believe that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Travis Hunter right now, that he's the best player in
this draft, that he will end up being picked forth
by the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
By the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I believe that's what's going to happen because I believe
that Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And believe he's the best player in the draft.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I believe he's the best player in the draft. But
it comes down to need and want.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Let me ask you this, let me rephrase it. Is
he the best athlete in the draft? I would give
him best athlete in the draft. I don't think I
give him best prospect in the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I mean I would say I'm saying he's the best
football player in this draft out of all of these
young men that are being drafted, he has the biggest
impact on the game of football when he is out
on the football field that cam Ward Shador Sanders, Abdul Carter,
whoever these guys are. Jackson Dark I believe when he
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is on the football field, when he is playing, he
has the biggest impact of any football player in this
draft this year. That's not saying athlete as football player.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
But is it hard to make that assessment when you're
using him two ways? See to me, I'm trying to
be I'm trying to be even on it plex because
it's like at a glance, like at a surface level,
it's one hundred percent easy to say this should be
the number one prospect in this year's draft. At a
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surface level, you should be able to say he has
the most impact, but he's been given the most opportunities
to be impactful at the positions that he plays for one,
but he deserves it. I would certainly say the level
of competition, to me, would would play a major, major
part in a major role in some of these the
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estimations of how how great a player you know is,
I don't look at the Big Twelve, as you know,
that's the standard of which you can measure.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
How great a player is. Now.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Granted there have been some excellent players that have come
out of the Big Twelve, but with all this realigning
and all this stuff that's going on, I think that
it's safe to say you're probably going to have to
see him a guy against better competition before you sit
there and you put him out. Like the same thing
with Ashton Genty, right, I think that Ashton gent If
I'm just being one hundred percent all the way straight
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from the hip, who has been the most impactful.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Player for their team. It's Ashton Genty. It's Ashton Genty, And.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think that I think that I believe that that. Obviously,
you know Travis wond the Heisman, he played both ways.
I think he had a tremendous impact and effect on
his team in college football. But if I'm looking at
it just beneath the surface, like what what part of
the glacier lies beneath the surface?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And I break it down and I look at.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
What Ashton Genty did per play and how that that
carried their team through some of the games that they
won and led to them being where they were at,
I would go with Ashton Genty. Now that's not saying
that that translates to who's the most impactful in the
National Football League, because if I'm looking at it from
that perspective, I ultimately say the same thing I said
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when sir won the Defensive Player of the Year award,
how are you quantifying it? He did not have very
many interceptions. If you're looking at what he brought to
the table with the stat line that he had, there
should have been dudes like Revis and Bailey and just
to name a few that should have been Defensive Players
of the Year in years past because they had way
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more production and in the stat lines and what it
is that they did along with what it is you
said that Pat certain you know did when he when
he had this season, that just took place. So I
feel like when you we're looking and we're measuring and
we're judging right, to me, I don't look at a
cornerback and a receiver and it says to me, he
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plays both, so he's he's going to be more impactful
in the league. I don't look at it that way.
And I made that point. I made that point before.
I don't know how you quantify him being the best
prospect in the league truly as a corner I don't
And then if I'm looking at him as a receiver,
I don't know, so how you quantify him as a
receiver to say he's the best receiver in the draft
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or the best prospect in the draft going as a receiver.
So you're trying to put both of them together to
say that he should be the number one prospect or
should be the unicorn, or whatever it is that you're saying.
But I can't quantify both of them. I can't me.
I can't responsibly quantify both of them and say he
should be the number one guy because he can be
dominant at both sides of the ball. Now, I might
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sound crazy, and somebody's out there saying LeVar sounds crazy,
But I only sound crazy until y'all see what happens
in the league. Right now, he can make me sound crazy,
plex But today, today, today, if I'm airing on the
side of caution and saying, you know what, we could
sit here and think for two minutes that Travis Hunter
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is going to go into the league and he's going
to play consistently on both sides of the ball, and
he's going to be an all pro talent on both
sides of the ball, pro bowler on both sides of
the ball. I think I would I would tend to
put my money towards he's not versus he is.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, I believe you're saying that the Big twelve Conference
you can't really judge him of how good of a
player is because of the competition. Well, what he's doing
both ways, I'm gonna take it as I'm gonna take
it absolutely, I'm gonna take it a step further. I'm
gonna say that if he plays one side of the ball,
and I believe that he's a better cornerback than he
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is a wide receiver. I believe that his overall production
as a corner of him playing defense solely defense, he's
a better football player than he is now because he's
not playing two sides of the football. He's playing one side. Man,
Sometimes this guy plays one hundred plus plays a game.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's only what sixty seventy plays in the NFL football game.
So now you're talking about this man being able to
play just one side of the football, and his natural
talent I believe makes him a better defender than it
will or wide receiver at the next level. And you're
looking at competition, I'm looking at the instincts, the way
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this man reason reacts to routes and his ball skills
when the balls in there, whether he's playing offense or defense,
that is what I'm judging him off of.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'm not looking at the competition.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I'm looking at the player, and what the player shows
me is that Listen, the man has instincts out of
this world. Balls in the air, he's attacking the football,
he's in tight coverage, he's intercepting the football, he's breaking
up passes. That's what I'm looking at from a cornerbacks.
Then as far as evaluating him as a player, and
(27:44):
when I look at everybody else that's in this draft,
when it comes to being a pure football player, Travis
Hunter is the best pure football player in this draft.
I don't believe he's going to go on the next
level and be first team All Pro on offense, first
team All Pro on defense.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I don't think that's reasonable for us to say right now.
But I do believe that when he walks on a
football field this fall and he's a playing a cornerback
at it has the football league, he is going to
be one of the best cornerbacks in the league that
we see this year, and he will make a Pro Bowl,
and he will make a first team All Pro.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I just think that it has to be quantified by
more than just saying that they don't throw his direction.
I think it has to be quantified in some ways,
in some forms in the stat line. It has to
show in either you know past defense, either you know
and or interceptions, the amount of tackles, whatever, all things given,
(28:45):
I feel like it has to be a little more quantifiable.
At that position. It's easy and it's simple for most
other positions. If he played receiver, it's easily quantifiable. If
his stat line is not is not impressive, then you're
not looking at him as a top receiver. It's simple
how many catches are he making, how many targets? How
(29:05):
many times did he catch the ball? Because sometimes the
hit and stating that is, y'all catch dropped the ball.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Y'all won't blame it on the QB.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
But sometimes y'all catch dropped the ball, you know, and
so to me, so to me, so to me. When
you when you think about it, like there's quantifiable things
for a defensive end, I can say this is why
I think Abdul Carter is the is the best prospect
in the draft. I can give you tangible evidence in
terms of his stat line that would show and and
(29:33):
the idea that he plays more than just a defensive end.
He does play linebacker, he does stand up, he does cover,
he does he does have pass breakups and past defenses.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And those difference.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Hasn't done those things?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yes, he What was he doing when he was playing?
I mean is four interceptions? I mean is is what?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What? What? What was his interceptions this year?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
For?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He had four? I N t's this year is that's.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
So you think people are not throwing the ball this
way because he's not because he can't play football.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No, I don't think they're not throwing it away, because
I know they are. I'm just saying to myself, when
you get into a situation where you got to quantify
the value, four interceptions does not say elite to me,
my g It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Say lead to me. How many? How many?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
How many? Let's find out how many seasons that Darrel
reasoned that he led the league in interceptions.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I will pull up. I will pull that up.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Listen, because hey, you know how I know he didn't
leave the league interceptions because he won't nobody throwing the
ball this way.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But I bet you had more than four interceptions. Hey,
let's get Isaac lowan Crow.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
We're going to figure out how to finish this conversation,
but first let's hear what my band Ilo has to
say on the update.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What we got.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Yeah, speaking of stats, I have this note here. Ask
LeVar what the number four point five to three means
to him?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Four point five three, that's a stat that's that's what
that's a forty time?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Who's that would be mine? It certainly would be mine.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
That's what you ran at the Combine in two thousand,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
You know?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You know what's interesting about that, I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
They never gave my accurate forty time because I would
have been able to ask for too much money.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
That's one.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
And for two, I did not uh, I did not
participate at the combine.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And pro day your pro data.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, and you know what, that's an inn act.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
There were like three times that came from my pro
day times and that's the one they chose to post.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So that's certainly not what my time was. Fascinating.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So you're saying, it's like my birthday. If you look
at my birthday online, my birthday is inaccurate either. It's
not the only thing that people get wrong about me.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You gotta have off.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
You gotta hire one of those social media private investigators
to clean that stuff up.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
So you're saying there was some funny business going on
with the stopwatches, when.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
You we're saying it doesn't matter. I could have Ramplexico
Burrs down. I could have ran down Santana Moss. I
was gonna run them all down, is all I'm saying. No,
matter what my forty times said, just know that my
speed was going to carry me to the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Flexico.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Do you agree with that assessment?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He uh, he has to. I take the fifth.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
Oh look at me trying to start stuff between you two.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
All right, I didn't had too many battles, Loo, Yeah,
it's all good.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Battles, Yeah, battles going on right now. In college basketball,
number thirteen, Clemson trailing at Virginia twenty seven to twenty five,
three and a half left to play in the first half.
In LaVar's Penn State Nitney Lions up thirty four to
twenty eight over number sixteen Maryland won forty one left
to play in the first half. There Covin op at
the top of the hour showdown time at a rapp
arena in Lexington as seventeenth ranked Kentucky plays host to
(32:48):
number one Auburn at twenty six and two overall. And
in case you missed it, in the NBA on Friday night,
the Los Angeles Lakers defeated the Los Angeles Clippers one
oh six to one oh two. It was the lakers
fifth consecutive win. Luka Dancia scored thirty one on his
twenty six birthday Lebron James twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Eight points and thirteen rebounds. Guys back to you appreciate it.
I listen.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Four.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Doesn't that seem so bad? I mean, I'm looking at Lebron.
Four is not that bad?
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Chi Bailey had five one year, five another year, three, three, three, eight, ten, and.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Uh, derell Is the most interceptions that he had on
a single season would be six six five six and
at a level of your career, twenty nine total interceptions.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, does that six?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Here?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You say that he's the best cornerback they ever played football?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Uh, he's in the conversation, but no, he's not your
good best. He's but he's from West PA. So I'm
always repping though, So right, how that go? Anyways? And
I'm a REP you because you played in Pa for
for the Pittsburgh st was in the obviously Vight Dude,
we came out at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
There's a lot of reasons why I'm a REP.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Stretch Armstrong and you know what We're gonna rep, y'all two,
you know what I mean. But we're gonna take a
break real quick before we keep repping, y'all. H Matthew Stafford.
We're gonna pay off the teas.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Him and Tom Brady had some time together and and
uh what was that Montana. I believe they were skiing,
they were talking. It was it was considered that they
did not collude. But hey, I guess that's all trivial now,
and I'll tell you why. On the other side of
this break, it's up on Game this Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
We'll be right back. All right, all right, welcome back in.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
This is up on Game, says Tyrack dot Com Studios'
Plexico Burds. I'm LaVar Arrington and TJ is.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
In obviously Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Shortly after the show, if you want to check out
our podcast, it's gonna go up, so make sure you
check it out. If you missed anything. We had some
great conversations going on. Uh just look up up on
Game wherever it is you get your podcasts from. All right, Uh,
before we get to the end of the hour, let's
wrap it up this way. The Rams re signed Matthew Stafford.
Stretch and listen. I think the market came to Matthew Stafford.
(35:10):
They say, when they give you the opportunity to test
the market, don't be upset. Or surprised if you don't
get the response that you're looking for. This time, it
actually worked out. Matthew Stafford got a ton of interest
from the Giants, a ton of interest from the Raiders.
It was reported that you know, him and Tom Brady
had linked up or whatever. However whoopedi woo by accident, coincidence,
(35:31):
whatever it was they talked. It looks as though the
Rams was like, look, we're not going to play that game,
because if these guys are that aggressive about trying to
get a quarterback, then if we were to lose this
quarterback to the market, then obviously we're going to be
in the same situation and position that they're and so
they get it done. Is this the right Is this
(35:52):
the right move by the Rams? Is this the right
move by Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I think it's the right move by the RAM. I
mean I don't think they were really in that space
of you know, starting over from the quarterback position. I mean,
Matthew Stafford I believe is the best option for this
football team. You know, for the next two or three years.
Sean Sean McVey is still present at the head coach
(36:18):
and you know, I just don't see this team where
they're at right now moving forward. You know they're not
going to have Cooper Cup this season moving moving forward,
so that's going to be a loss for them offensively.
But I just think that keeping him in LA was
the right move for this team. I mean, people are
telling me that he wanted forty five fifty plus million
(36:40):
dollars a season if he was going to play for
another team, and uh, you know, listen, he's super Bowl
winning quarterback. What is it fifty seven million dollars thirty
five guaranteed over the next three seasons. I believe that
it's the best move for him. I don't believe that
anybody was going to pay him the amount of money
(37:00):
that he won't want it to be paid. Uh. Moving
on from this franchise, so, uh will they compete in
the NFC West? I believe they will.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Do you expect from them to make the playoffs? Maybe not?
But I just think for this team, he's the best
fit for this offense under Sean McVay, and they're gonna
they're gonna put a product out on a football field
that can win football games.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I think they were really close.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if after the smoke clears and
the dust subtles down plex that Cooper Cup comes back
under a different type of contract to the Rams. I
think we all know how how documented will documented their
relationship is.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, Puka nikua is is a star. Uh now
he's a superstar possibly in the making. I mean, he's
a kid, is special. They have some some nice pieces.
They re signed alignment as well, and I'm sure that
that had something to do with the signing taking place.
You know, sometimes teammates will look out for other teammates
(38:08):
and and that that makes a difference. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But I think this is a great play by by
the Rams. They were very close.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I mean, you're they they played a closer game and
it was a more impressive situation with them against the
Eagles than it was in the Super Bowl with the
Kansas City Chiefs. So that kind of gives you an
idea maybe in that moment of time, that this possibly
could be a team that could could you know, actually
make it back to the pinnacle of the NFL going
(38:38):
to the Super Bowl, you know, after the tremendous loss
and the vacancy left by by Aaron Donald leaving the game.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
But they got some players.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Obviously, they had two guys that were up for Defensive
Rookie of the Year, which means that you had at
least another two three years of elite defensive play up
front for your for your defensive side of the ball.
I just think that this team is in a really,
really good situation. McVeigh is a strong coach, and this
is a team that really you look at them on paper,
(39:10):
the way Sneid has done the building out of this roster,
they seem to be with the securing of Matthew Stafford,
they could be a team that you look forward to
not only be a competitor, you know once you get
to the postseason. But you got to assume that they're
probably looking good. I mean, you look at the Arizona Cardinals.
What have they done to got to get better?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yet?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
What has the San Francisco forty nine ers, who that
is supposed to be the team that you got to
deal with, How did they get better this offseason? And
did Seattle get better? Did Seattle hit there? See, it's
a wide open NFC West plex.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah, you just don't know who's going to merge to
the top of this division. I mean, just like you said,
word of Savages go forty nine ers right now, especially
you know with their quarterbacking situation with Brock Party moving forward. Uh,
you know Brandon I, is he gonna be able to
come back healthy?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Christian McCaffery, is he gonna be able to be able
to come back healthy?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
If you just don't know so?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Trent Williams is he back healthy? Does Deebo Samuel's even
come back to the team at all? I think you
you make some great points there, and you know what,
Plex has made some really strong points. Make sure you
check out the podcast as well. We're heading in the
hour two. We're gonna talk some round ball as well.
Joe l Andbi you know the late this on him,
We're gonna touch on that. But you know what, right now,
(40:30):
we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna jump
in the hour two. This is up on games, Plexico Burds,
I'm LeVar Arrington. TJ is out Fox Sports Radio.
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What's up?
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Is up on game? We got a few topics to
get you today. I think you'll be interested in them
as well. We'll have some great conversation about it. TJ
is in Indianapolis for the combines, so he will be
off today, but make no mistake about it. There's three
of us, and you know what, you could be had
by at least one of us. So you know what,
(01:26):
there's two of us here. I got my man stretched armstrong.
He's in the house. Before we get to everything that,
we're gonna get you because we're gonna talk to the
door Sanders in a few moments. Anne Travis Hunter obviously
can't talk about one.
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Speaker 3 (02:04):
How's it going where you're at? How is it? What's
the good word?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You know what? It's unseasonably warm today, man, unseas listen
to how for you? He's approaching sixty almost. It's been
a strange week. We got over sixty one day this
past week, and they say maybe spring is coming a
little earlier. Normally doesn't come this early. But the weather's
(02:29):
actually not that bad today.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That is a beautiful, beautiful thing, my guy.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
And you know what, speaking of good weather, well I
heard it was good weather surrounding our guys Chador Sanders
at the draft and where we were at so or
where they were at, where TJ is at. Uh, And
here's what he had to say. And I'm gonna get
your opinion on this. I'm gonna get your take on
this after we listened to it. But I had some
(02:57):
interesting thoughts on it. But here's what your door said
has had to say at the combine during an interview.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
We went from Jackson State to Colorado and changed two
programs back to back.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So you don't think I could come to NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Franchise and change the program again.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's history. We've done it again. It's so he's gonna
repeat itself.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
If you ain't trying to change the franchise or the coach,
that don't give me. So you should know history repeats
itself over and over and over. And I've done it
over and over and over, so it should be no
question why NFL franchised should pick me.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I'll say this, plex I don't see any lies in
what he's saying. I love his confidence. One of the
things that I find to be breathtaking about Shador because
I've known Shador for a really long time and at
the Under Armour Games for as many years.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
As we were.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He participated in our eighth grade game as well. Just
that belief and that buy in to being great and
the work that it takes to be great, in the
mindset that it takes to be great. I mean, I
know that Cam Newton came under a lot of scrutiny
and a lot of criticism for saying that he went
into a locker room that maybe had losing ways of
(04:14):
losing mentality and he hadn't been a part of that,
but he was going to be a part of changing
it and making it a winning culture. He ended up
taking that team and leading them to a super Bowl
and an MVP year. Do you feel as though like
some people subscribe to like say it, stand on it,
(04:35):
own it and run with it and rock with it
and see where you know it all ends up. Some
people subscribe to the idea just keeping it to yourself
and just going out there improving it and then your
success is the best indicator of what it is that
was ultimately meant to be. Do you like Shador's approach?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Do you not like it? Where do you fall on it?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, I'm not surprised by his approach. I mean, we
out to know who his father is, and they're they're
going to be very outspoken and you know what they
believe about themselves as as people, as competitors and competitors
and as players. But I think for your do at
this point in his life, man, it's just simply comes
down to can he be a great quarterback at the
(05:21):
next level. I mean, everything that he said has been true.
He was obviously a great high school player. He was
he was a great quarterback at Jackson State and and
look at what what he was has been able to
accomplish at Colorado and now it's on too. He is
arguably going to be, you know, one of the best
(05:45):
player in this draft. He's one of the best two
quarterbacks in his draft. So I just think that with
him moving forward is can he play football at the
NFL level and can he go out and have some
of the same successes that he's had in college and
high school and throughout his whole life. But don't expect
him to, you know, come into any organization and to
(06:06):
be shy about what he's going to say behind the
podium on a microphone, because he's going to voice his opinion.
And though that's just one of the things that you know,
whoever drafts him is from an organization standpoint, they're going
to have to deal with on a daily basis or
weekly basis, because you know that when the media talks
(06:28):
to the team or the coach, the quarterback speaks for
this organization every single day. And he's going to be
the head of a franchise and he's not going to
shy away from anything that they ask him. He's going
to be truthful. He's going to you know, state the facts.
People are not going to like it, but that is
who he is as a person and you know as
(06:51):
a player, and you know Deon has came out and
support it. Look, he said what he said.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He said what he said.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Let me ask you, that's plex you played for multiple organizations,
so you had the opportunity to be around different groups
of upper management. You know, the people who make the decisions,
the corporate side of it, the owners, the scouts, the salespeople,
all those things. And you know, I'm always a big
stickler on talking about building and growing your brand. It's
(07:18):
always been a part of my conversations. It's a It's
a major part of athletics and being in those different organizations.
What would your assessment or assumption be, will his type
of approach and how he is will it fit in
in the NFL at the NFL level, knowing how those.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
People are, man, you know this and I know this.
It depends on who the owner and the general manager
all of the organization, because they're a teller on that
give us some context that there are not teams will
take the less of the player that as a as
a lesser player than the player that has this, you know,
(07:59):
boatsful attitude about who he is a player and as.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
A person perception of him being a boastful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Exactly. It depends on who is who is going to
draft him, knowing that whatever comes out of his mouth,
he's going to say it. And I think that moving
forward for all these NFL teams, they know that when
they ask a door questions, people are going to ask
(08:26):
Dean the same question and so they are going to
listen to what's being said not only from his son,
but from his point of view, and that is what's
going to these organizations are going to have to deal
with him moving forward. Is that you know how outspoken
they are. And a lot of these teams don't like that.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Even if it's positive, Like I find it.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Curious, even if it's positive, you know how it is.
It's like it's like humility first, yeah, and that that
is what is the The athlete is changing, the quarterback
position is changing, and the NFL has not. Basically, you know,
turned that corner of what these young men moving forward,
(09:12):
who they are going to be as players and people
and it's not the norm. So when it's not the
normal or if it's outside of the box, people don't
accept it. So now they are more engaged to what
that person or that player is saying, trying to get
a feel of who that person is and are they
(09:38):
able to adapt to how these young players and athletes
perceived are perceived.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'll say this looking at how things have been when
I played, you know, during our time. This is a
touch and go type of moment because as a player,
how do you think we handle a kid coming into
which that's what we would say, right, we got a
kid coming into our locker room that is already sitting
(10:10):
there saying the things that he's saying, and if he's
coming into our locker room, that is a if I'm
not a new player in his locker room, that's a
direct shot at us as players. So I just wonder,
I know we're up on the break, but just super quickly,
from your perspective, do you think the team that drafts
(10:30):
Shador Sanders do you think the locker room will be
supportive of Shador being the way that he is and
being bold in his proclamations. Do you think that Dion Deon,
senior coach Prime, do you think he plays a major
role in maybe shaudor getting that type of grace from
not only the players in the locker room, but maybe
(10:52):
even the organization themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Does does all.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Elements play a part in what Shador Sanders, how he'll
be received in the in the locker room. Let's just
start with the locker room super quickly. Do you feel
like that fits the mold?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It doesn't, It doesn't, It doesn't fit the mold. You know,
you know what these NFL locker rooms are like man,
fifty three sixty different personalities of of of young men
and more I would say, more leaning to more of
the veteran guys. These guys have who have already been
you know, first team All Pros and Pro Bowlers and
(11:30):
having played you know, six seven, eight years in it
and have established a successful career playing in the league.
With Chador coming into that locker room, it's basically gonna
come down. Look, look, man, we know you can talk.
Can you go out and play football? Can you make
us a better football team? And can we compete to
win a division of a division? Wherever he goes? Because
(11:54):
moving forward for him, he's already he's already spoken. What
he's done in college speaks for a sent Now when
you walk into the locker room, you know how these
locker rooms are. You know how these young men are. Man,
respect is earned on that football field. They don't care
what you're talking about. When we line up, when you
get on the center, does everything that's coming out of
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your mouth match up to your performance? And that's all
it's gonna come down to. For sure.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
M that's pretty interesting to hear. I mean, that's that's
certainly out the gate with some real game. That's Plexico Burst.
I'm LeVar Arrington. Listen up.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You know, Shador Sanders teammate Rich Eisen had something interesting
to say on Pat McAfee's show about what Travis Hunter
had to say, and he had some interesting thoughts on
Travis Hunter. We're gonna talk about that on the other
side of the break. Matthew Stafford, well, you know, Tom Brady,
Matthew Stafford skiing, you know, having a good time talking
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Key King. Ah wow, oh Tom Brady. Ope for two,
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Speaker 3 (13:07):
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Speaker 5 (13:21):
All right, everybody, all right, Pablo, Yeah, okay, all right,
all right, welcome back in. This is Up on Game.
We are live from the Tyrack dot com studios. It's Plexico,
Buris is LeVar Arrington, TJ is in Indy for the combine.
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But we've been having some great conversations and a lot
of it has has come from the combine.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I mean, let's move on to the next megastar.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
From from Colorado and keep it Colorado centric. Uh. Travis
Hunter is making no bune about it. In my estimation,
plex that he wants to be a two way player.
And I think there are pundits that actually agree with
what it is that Travis Hunter is talking about. Before
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I get your opinion and your assessment on it, and
I know we talked about it and shows prior and
I have to say what I have to say. I
stand on it, but we'll get to that. Here's what
Travis Hunter had to say while he was being interviewed
on the podium at the NFL Combine.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
They saying everybody, nobody has ever done it for real
the way I do it. But I tell him that
I'm just different. I'm a different person. I don't know
about returning. I already got two jobs on my hand,
all right.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well that that clearly if you're saying I don't know
about returning, because I already have two jobs on my hand,
on my hands, I think that you're referencing. I think
it's safe to say.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think it's safe to say plex. I think it's
safe to say.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That that he is assuming that he is going to
play offense and defense. Now, before you take it, Here's
what rich Eisen had to say, and I thought this
was interesting. Here's what he had to say on Pat
McAfee's show.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Why isn't Travis Hunter number one overall? Because he is
a unicorn? And by the way, he just came up
with a SoundBite of the week as far as I'm concerned.
He was asked at his press conference, will I think
while you were talking to Tyrese here, you know, are
you going to return punts and kicks? And his answer was,
I already have two jobs, beast, which I already have
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two jobs? Like everybody, back off, I'm a freaking unicorn.
So why why isn't he considered first overall?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
All Right, there's there's a lot of directions. This one
could go in stretch a lot. And again I mentioned
a couple of different things as it applied to what
Shador had to say.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Uh, you know again, I guess it applies to.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
The these states mints in these comments as well. I
will first start by saying this, plex I think it's
amazing that he has the type of self belief and
confidence that he has in himself. Clearly the influence of
Coach Prime and others and others, Big G Big George
Hegeman is there and Warren.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Sapp is there. Do you got guys there?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
You know? Obviously Cam comes around, Terrell Owens comes around,
the influence of positive energy of high achievers is clearly
a major major impact on how these young men are
handling themselves and how they're handling the media. Obviously, Bucky
Dion's son, his oldest son, Dion Junior, has built an
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amazing business off of capturing the content, but not only
capturing the content, but doing what Something that's super passionate
for us and what we do in media is to
be able to teach these young guys how to handle
them elves in front of a camera and not be
afraid of expressing themselves and saying the things that they
truly feel if they know in their hearts that this
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is what they're going to achieve and what they're going
to accomplish. But with that being said, there are people
in up top that aren't going to like hearing what
someone like what Travis Hunter had to say, I already
have two jobs. What do you mean? You know there's
fifty three man roster, You know what I mean? I
think it expanded, whatever it is. But the bottom line
here is and you have veterans that are on that
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team that's like, Bro, you have been taking one snap
in the league. You think you different? And he's going
to feel that in his locker room. Don't do you
think it's beyond the realm of possibility that his teammates
are going to make sure he understands that the NFL
is full of unicorns. You're just now figuring that out, maybe,
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but it's full of you the corns.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What say you man?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know I was always told that everybody's playing, everybody
that's playing at the next level in the NFL, they
deserve to be there, and they're there for a reason.
I wouldn't jump out the window and say it's a
league full of unicorns.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
There there are great players. There's probably three or four
when it comes to unicorns as far as playing on
this level, and some of the names that you just mentioned,
Dion we all know he's a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Coach of Colorado Unicorn.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Warren Sap he was a Unicorn defensive tackle when he
was playing football, because he was probably the best defensive
tackle that you had ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In our era.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So when when they hold these interviews and these press
conferences about Travis Hunter, Sap iterated the word good and great.
He said, he's not a good player, Travis Hunter. He's
he's going to be a great player at the next level.
You're talking about. Uh, these Sap, Dion Sanders, they have
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played at the elite level of the elite.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
These guys have gold jackets already. So when I hear
the likes of a you know, to O and a
Dion and a Sap talk about the ability of this
young man, I will take their word over guys that
have coached for twenty and thirty years that have never
played at the next level. Over I'm not going to
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take their word over a Sap or a to O
or Deon Sanders, because I know that these guys go.
I know that these guys know and understand what the
game of football is really like at the next level,
and you know, you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Know how it is coming in. They're not going to
be a lot of guys that that like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Him, and that's fine, It's okay. When he steps out
on a football field, he's going to prove to himself
first and the guys in the locker room and the
organization that he is one of these unicorns coming into
this league. And I believe he's going to be a
great player. And listen to to what rich Eisen had
to say about him, saying, why why is he not
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the first player selected in this draft?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Because accurate? Should he be number one?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, it comes down to need. I think he's the
best player in the draft. But if you're Tennessee or
you're the Cleveland Browns and you know you need a
franchise quarterback moving forward, that's the only reason why he
is not the first pick in his draft because it
comes down to need. And when you look at Travis
Hunter and what he brings to a football team, you're
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looking at the top four teams in the draft Tennessee,
Cleveland Browns, the Giants, and the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I believe that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Travis Hunter right now, that he's the best player in
this draft, that he will end up being picked forth
by the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
By the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I believe that's what's going to happen because I believe
that Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And believe he's the best player in the draft.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I believe he's the best player in the draft. But
it comes down to need and want.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Let me ask you this, let me rephrase it. Is
he the best athlete in the draft? I would give
him best athlete in the draft. I don't think I
give him best prospect in the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I mean I would say I'm saying he's the best
football player in this draft out of all of these
young men that are being drafted, he has the biggest
impact on the game of football when he is out
on the football field that cam Ward Shador Sanders, Abdul Carter,
whoever these guys are. Jackson Dark I believe when he
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is on the football field, when he is playing, he
has the biggest impact of any football player in this
draft this year. That's not saying athlete as football player.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
But is it hard to make that assessment when you're
using him two ways? See to me, I'm trying to
be I'm trying to be even on it plex because
it's like at a glance, like at a surface level,
it's one hundred percent easy to say this should be
the number one prospect in this year's draft. At a
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surface level, you should be able to say he has
the most impact, but he's been given the most opportunities
to be impactful at the positions that he plays for one,
but he deserves it. I would certainly say the level
of competition, to me, would would play a major, major
part in a major role in some of these the
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estimations of how how great a player you know is,
I don't look at the Big Twelve, as you know,
that's the standard of which you can measure.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
How great a player is. Now.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Granted there have been some excellent players that have come
out of the Big Twelve, but with all this realigning
and all this stuff that's going on, I think that
it's safe to say you're probably going to have to
see him a guy against better competition before you sit
there and you put him out. Like the same thing
with Ashton Genty, right, I think that Ashton gent If
I'm just being one hundred percent all the way straight
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from the hip, who has been the most impactful.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Player for their team. It's Ashton Genty. It's Ashton Genty, And.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think that I think that I believe that that. Obviously,
you know Travis wond the Heisman, he played both ways.
I think he had a tremendous impact and effect on
his team in college football. But if I'm looking at
it just beneath the surface, like what what part of
the glacier lies beneath the surface?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And I break it down and I look at.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
What Ashton Genty did per play and how that that
carried their team through some of the games that they
won and led to them being where they were at,
I would go with Ashton Genty. Now that's not saying
that that translates to who's the most impactful in the
National Football League, because if I'm looking at it from
that perspective, I ultimately say the same thing I said
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when sir won the Defensive Player of the Year award,
how are you quantifying it? He did not have very
many interceptions. If you're looking at what he brought to
the table with the stat line that he had, there
should have been dudes like Revis and Bailey and just
to name a few that should have been Defensive Players
of the Year in years past because they had way
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more production and in the stat lines and what it
is that they did along with what it is you
said that Pat certain you know did when he when
he had this season, that just took place. So I
feel like when you we're looking and we're measuring and
we're judging right, to me, I don't look at a
cornerback and a receiver and it says to me, he
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plays both, so he's he's going to be more impactful
in the league. I don't look at it that way.
And I made that point. I made that point before.
I don't know how you quantify him being the best
prospect in the league truly as a corner I don't
And then if I'm looking at him as a receiver,
I don't know, so how you quantify him as a
receiver to say he's the best receiver in the draft
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or the best prospect in the draft going as a receiver.
So you're trying to put both of them together to
say that he should be the number one prospect or
should be the unicorn, or whatever it is that you're saying.
But I can't quantify both of them. I can't me.
I can't responsibly quantify both of them and say he
should be the number one guy because he can be
dominant at both sides of the ball. Now, I might
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sound crazy, and somebody's out there saying LeVar sounds crazy,
But I only sound crazy until y'all see what happens
in the league. Right now, he can make me sound crazy,
plex But today, today, today, if I'm airing on the
side of caution and saying, you know what, we could
sit here and think for two minutes that Travis Hunter
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is going to go into the league and he's going
to play consistently on both sides of the ball, and
he's going to be an all pro talent on both
sides of the ball, pro bowler on both sides of
the ball. I think I would I would tend to
put my money towards he's not versus he is.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, I believe you're saying that the Big twelve Conference
you can't really judge him of how good of a
player is because of the competition. Well, what he's doing
both ways, I'm gonna take it as I'm gonna take
it absolutely, I'm gonna take it a step further. I'm
gonna say that if he plays one side of the ball,
and I believe that he's a better cornerback than he
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is a wide receiver. I believe that his overall production
as a corner of him playing defense solely defense, he's
a better football player than he is now because he's
not playing two sides of the football. He's playing one side. Man,
Sometimes this guy plays one hundred plus plays a game.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's only what sixty seventy plays in the NFL football game.
So now you're talking about this man being able to
play just one side of the football, and his natural
talent I believe makes him a better defender than it
will or wide receiver at the next level. And you're
looking at competition, I'm looking at the instincts, the way
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this man reason reacts to routes and his ball skills
when the balls in there, whether he's playing offense or defense,
that is what I'm judging him off of.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'm not looking at the competition.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I'm looking at the player, and what the player shows
me is that Listen, the man has instincts out of
this world. Balls in the air, he's attacking the football,
he's in tight coverage, he's intercepting the football, he's breaking
up passes. That's what I'm looking at from a cornerbacks.
Then as far as evaluating him as a player, and
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when I look at everybody else that's in this draft,
when it comes to being a pure football player, Travis
Hunter is the best pure football player in this draft.
I don't believe he's going to go on the next
level and be first team All Pro on offense, first
team All Pro on defense.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I don't think that's reasonable for us to say right now.
But I do believe that when he walks on a
football field this fall and he's a playing a cornerback
at it has the football league, he is going to
be one of the best cornerbacks in the league that
we see this year, and he will make a Pro Bowl,
and he will make a first team All Pro.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I just think that it has to be quantified by
more than just saying that they don't throw his direction.
I think it has to be quantified in some ways,
in some forms in the stat line. It has to
show in either you know past defense, either you know
and or interceptions, the amount of tackles, whatever, all things given,
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I feel like it has to be a little more quantifiable.
At that position. It's easy and it's simple for most
other positions. If he played receiver, it's easily quantifiable. If
his stat line is not is not impressive, then you're
not looking at him as a top receiver. It's simple
how many catches are he making, how many targets? How
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many times did he catch the ball? Because sometimes the
hit and stating that is, y'all catch dropped the ball.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Y'all won't blame it on the QB.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
But sometimes y'all catch dropped the ball, you know, and
so to me, so to me, so to me. When
you when you think about it, like there's quantifiable things
for a defensive end, I can say this is why
I think Abdul Carter is the is the best prospect
in the draft. I can give you tangible evidence in
terms of his stat line that would show and and
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the idea that he plays more than just a defensive end.
He does play linebacker, he does stand up, he does cover,
he does he does have pass breakups and past defenses.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And those difference.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Hasn't done those things?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yes, he What was he doing when he was playing?
I mean is four interceptions? I mean is is what?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What? What? What was his interceptions this year?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
For?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He had four? I N t's this year is that's.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
So you think people are not throwing the ball this
way because he's not because he can't play football.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No, I don't think they're not throwing it away, because
I know they are. I'm just saying to myself, when
you get into a situation where you got to quantify
the value, four interceptions does not say elite to me,
my g It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Say lead to me. How many? How many?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
How many? Let's find out how many seasons that Darrel
reasoned that he led the league in interceptions.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I will pull up. I will pull that up.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Listen, because hey, you know how I know he didn't
leave the league interceptions because he won't nobody throwing the
ball this way.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But I bet you had more than four interceptions. Hey,
let's get Isaac lowan Crow.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
We're going to figure out how to finish this conversation,
but first let's hear what my band Ilo has to
say on the update.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What we got.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Yeah, speaking of stats, I have this note here. Ask
LeVar what the number four point five to three means
to him?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Four point five three, that's a stat that's that's what
that's a forty time?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Who's that would be mine? It certainly would be mine.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
That's what you ran at the Combine in two thousand,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
You know?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You know what's interesting about that, I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
They never gave my accurate forty time because I would
have been able to ask for too much money.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
That's one.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
And for two, I did not uh, I did not
participate at the combine.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And pro day your pro data.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, and you know what, that's an inn act.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
There were like three times that came from my pro
day times and that's the one they chose to post.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So that's certainly not what my time was. Fascinating.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So you're saying, it's like my birthday. If you look
at my birthday online, my birthday is inaccurate either. It's
not the only thing that people get wrong about me.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You gotta have off.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
You gotta hire one of those social media private investigators
to clean that stuff up.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
So you're saying there was some funny business going on
with the stopwatches, when.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
You we're saying it doesn't matter. I could have Ramplexico
Burrs down. I could have ran down Santana Moss. I
was gonna run them all down, is all I'm saying. No,
matter what my forty times said, just know that my
speed was going to carry me to the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Flexico.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Do you agree with that assessment?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He uh, he has to. I take the fifth.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
Oh look at me trying to start stuff between you two.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
All right, I didn't had too many battles, Loo, Yeah,
it's all good.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Battles, Yeah, battles going on right now. In college basketball,
number thirteen, Clemson trailing at Virginia twenty seven to twenty five,
three and a half left to play in the first half.
In LaVar's Penn State Nitney Lions up thirty four to
twenty eight over number sixteen Maryland won forty one left
to play in the first half. There Covin op at
the top of the hour showdown time at a rapp
arena in Lexington as seventeenth ranked Kentucky plays host to
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number one Auburn at twenty six and two overall. And
in case you missed it, in the NBA on Friday night,
the Los Angeles Lakers defeated the Los Angeles Clippers one
oh six to one oh two. It was the lakers
fifth consecutive win. Luka Dancia scored thirty one on his
twenty six birthday Lebron James twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Eight points and thirteen rebounds. Guys back to you appreciate it.
I listen.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Four.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Doesn't that seem so bad? I mean, I'm looking at Lebron.
Four is not that bad?
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Chi Bailey had five one year, five another year, three, three, three, eight, ten, and.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Uh, derell Is the most interceptions that he had on
a single season would be six six five six and
at a level of your career, twenty nine total interceptions.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, does that six?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Here?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You say that he's the best cornerback they ever played football?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Uh, he's in the conversation, but no, he's not your
good best. He's but he's from West PA. So I'm
always repping though, So right, how that go? Anyways? And
I'm a REP you because you played in Pa for
for the Pittsburgh st was in the obviously Vight Dude,
we came out at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
There's a lot of reasons why I'm a REP.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Stretch Armstrong and you know what We're gonna rep, y'all two,
you know what I mean. But we're gonna take a
break real quick before we keep repping, y'all. H Matthew Stafford.
We're gonna pay off the teas.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Him and Tom Brady had some time together and and
uh what was that Montana. I believe they were skiing,
they were talking. It was it was considered that they
did not collude. But hey, I guess that's all trivial now,
and I'll tell you why. On the other side of
this break, it's up on Game this Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
We'll be right back. All right, all right, welcome back in.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
This is up on Game, says Tyrack dot Com Studios'
Plexico Burds. I'm LaVar Arrington and TJ is.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
In obviously Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Shortly after the show, if you want to check out
our podcast, it's gonna go up, so make sure you
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great conversations going on. Uh just look up up on
Game wherever it is you get your podcasts from. All right, Uh,
before we get to the end of the hour, let's
wrap it up this way. The Rams re signed Matthew Stafford.
Stretch and listen. I think the market came to Matthew Stafford.
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They say, when they give you the opportunity to test
the market, don't be upset. Or surprised if you don't
get the response that you're looking for. This time, it
actually worked out. Matthew Stafford got a ton of interest
from the Giants, a ton of interest from the Raiders.
It was reported that you know, him and Tom Brady
had linked up or whatever. However whoopedi woo by accident, coincidence,
(35:31):
whatever it was they talked. It looks as though the
Rams was like, look, we're not going to play that game,
because if these guys are that aggressive about trying to
get a quarterback, then if we were to lose this
quarterback to the market, then obviously we're going to be
in the same situation and position that they're and so
they get it done. Is this the right Is this
(35:52):
the right move by the Rams? Is this the right
move by Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I think it's the right move by the RAM. I
mean I don't think they were really in that space
of you know, starting over from the quarterback position. I mean,
Matthew Stafford I believe is the best option for this
football team. You know, for the next two or three years.
Sean Sean McVey is still present at the head coach
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and you know, I just don't see this team where
they're at right now moving forward. You know they're not
going to have Cooper Cup this season moving moving forward,
so that's going to be a loss for them offensively.
But I just think that keeping him in LA was
the right move for this team. I mean, people are
telling me that he wanted forty five fifty plus million
(36:40):
dollars a season if he was going to play for
another team, and uh, you know, listen, he's super Bowl
winning quarterback. What is it fifty seven million dollars thirty
five guaranteed over the next three seasons. I believe that
it's the best move for him. I don't believe that
anybody was going to pay him the amount of money
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that he won't want it to be paid. Uh. Moving
on from this franchise, so, uh will they compete in
the NFC West? I believe they will.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Do you expect from them to make the playoffs? Maybe not?
But I just think for this team, he's the best
fit for this offense under Sean McVay, and they're gonna
they're gonna put a product out on a football field
that can win football games.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I think they were really close.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if after the smoke clears and
the dust subtles down plex that Cooper Cup comes back
under a different type of contract to the Rams. I
think we all know how how documented will documented their
relationship is.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, Puka nikua is is a star. Uh now
he's a superstar possibly in the making. I mean, he's
a kid, is special. They have some some nice pieces.
They re signed alignment as well, and I'm sure that
that had something to do with the signing taking place.
You know, sometimes teammates will look out for other teammates
(38:08):
and and that that makes a difference. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But I think this is a great play by by
the Rams. They were very close.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I mean, you're they they played a closer game and
it was a more impressive situation with them against the
Eagles than it was in the Super Bowl with the
Kansas City Chiefs. So that kind of gives you an
idea maybe in that moment of time, that this possibly
could be a team that could could you know, actually
make it back to the pinnacle of the NFL going
(38:38):
to the Super Bowl, you know, after the tremendous loss
and the vacancy left by by Aaron Donald leaving the game.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
But they got some players.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Obviously, they had two guys that were up for Defensive
Rookie of the Year, which means that you had at
least another two three years of elite defensive play up
front for your for your defensive side of the ball.
I just think that this team is in a really,
really good situation. McVeigh is a strong coach, and this
is a team that really you look at them on paper,
(39:10):
the way Sneid has done the building out of this roster,
they seem to be with the securing of Matthew Stafford,
they could be a team that you look forward to
not only be a competitor, you know once you get
to the postseason. But you got to assume that they're
probably looking good. I mean, you look at the Arizona Cardinals.
What have they done to got to get better?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yet?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
What has the San Francisco forty nine ers, who that
is supposed to be the team that you got to
deal with, How did they get better this offseason? And
did Seattle get better? Did Seattle hit there? See, it's
a wide open NFC West plex.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah, you just don't know who's going to merge to
the top of this division. I mean, just like you said,
word of Savages go forty nine ers right now, especially
you know with their quarterbacking situation with Brock Party moving forward. Uh,
you know Brandon I, is he gonna be able to
come back healthy?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Christian McCaffery, is he gonna be able to be able
to come back healthy?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
If you just don't know so?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Trent Williams is he back healthy? Does Deebo Samuel's even
come back to the team at all? I think you
you make some great points there, and you know what,
Plex has made some really strong points. Make sure you
check out the podcast as well. We're heading in the
hour two. We're gonna talk some round ball as well.
Joe l Andbi you know the late this on him,
We're gonna touch on that. But you know what, right now,
(40:30):
we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna jump
in the hour two. This is up on games, Plexico Burds,
I'm LeVar Arrington. TJ is out Fox Sports Radio.
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