March 29, 2025 • 37 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the barbs exchanged between LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith in the media over the course of the week, Deion Sanders claims he won’t be involved in the process of where Shedeur Sanders ends up in the NFL Draft, Abdul Carter re-states his belief that he should go first overall, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
And Blaxico Burress.
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part of what we do. Fellas, it's Saturday, A lot
of stuff this happen during the course of the week. First,
before we get to everything, TJ Plex Plex TJ. How
are the super Friends doing today? Man? How y'all feeling?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You already know how it is out here?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Man's true, it's trying today. I can't. I can't go
with you all week, but it's trying to do.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We've been in like the eighties, bro, like eighty degrees
every day so clear skuys have weather.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Bro I have not had eight. I've been sixty and
upset you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean you right next to the water though, you
right now? You know all that money you got.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
You right next to the water. You walk out? You
want the water? I got to drive to the water.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Don't do that, don't.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Hey, you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It is pleasantly warm today. It is eighty to grees,
Yes it is. But LaVar, you know what. I want
to go back to what you were saying about my bracket,
your bracket. I might not be.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Doing well in my bracket. Hey, hey, but you.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Know who is doing well on the banks of the
Red Sea.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
The school.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Let's go to all that show team is winning and
play good ball?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Who did Shart?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Teams are never all through the game? Down five?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Fight for the owners, greed and wh miss you why
the point keeps growing with star and teams all bound
to win?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
There tight in with the ra Ra Rocks.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Their team is weekend on the Witness game.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Take a fight for MS you Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Michigan State. Michigan State has done well. It comes to
an end.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What did you say last week about my sports? T J?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I said they were gonna lose, and this is the
weekend they lose. Of course they're going to make it
to the Sweet sixteen. Of course this is the lead.
You mean they won game from the final follow who'd
I said they was gonna lose to do? You recall
it don't matter who the team they play next is
who I said they were going to.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Blood?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Hey, you know what else is cold blooded?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Though?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
This whole beef between Lebron James and Steven A Man. Look,
Lebron James had some interesting things to say on the
Pat McAfee show, and then I guess steven A feels like, well,
I go hand in the hand, I go toe to toe.
I'm stephen A. Smith out this b I yai y ya.
You know what I mean. Here's what Lebron James had
to say about stephen Ah Smith on a McAfee show.
(04:49):
He's like on a Taylor Swift tour run right now. Yeah,
we're watching it.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I mean we're If it's one person that couldn't wait
to the video to drop so you can address it,
is your ass, Like he completely missed the whole points.
Never would I ever not allow people to talk about
the sport criticize players about what they do on the court.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
That is your job, but when.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You take it and you get personal with it, it's
my job to not only protect my damn household, but
protect the players.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
To which one Stephen A. Smith, Well, I think he's
fed up with King James coming at him the way
that he's coming at him, and he had this the
same response.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
I suggest that he'd be happy with the things that
I haven't brought up. I never brought up, really and
never really discussed why you would not at Kobe Bryant's
memorial service. I never really brought up, with disgust why
you did not attend Dwayne Wade's Hall of Fame induction
when that man was directly responsible for you capturing a
championship for the first time of your career. I brought
(05:54):
up none of that. I didn't bring up the fact
that even though when people had asked, you had alluded
to what had happened tragically to your son and thank
god he's okay with his heart condition. I didn't bring
up the fact that even though you couldn't go to
the Hall of Fame induction of the way weeks later,
weeks earlier, you were out of the country on business.
I didn't bring that up. That's your personal business, okay.
(06:17):
But the fact is you wasn't at the Hall of
Fame induction of a brother that's gonna drastically assist to
you being a Hall of Famer because he helped you
become the champion that you were and he was a
big brother to you.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I brought up none of these things.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
But Lebron James at the end of the day wants
to come at me and he's walking around pouting.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I feel like and he Stephen Ay later came out
and corrected the fact that you know, saying that Lebron
was not at Kobe's memorial was inaccurate statement, but said
that he stands on everything else that he said. I
just wanted us to have the conversation because this is
up on game and again, we you know, we take
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the approach we don't take a negative approach that we
just take a sensible perspective on things that we hear,
things that take place in the world of sports. This
is one of those topics. Fellas. I gotta say, Stephen,
a crashing out is to me, that is it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate. That media is becoming almost like it's like
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replacing what battle rap and beefs in the rap game,
like what that represents. And I think media personalities are
getting a distorted idea and a distortive view of what
we represent in the media. Stephen A, you're a reporter, bro,
stephen A, You're a media personality. You're a media talent.
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And for what it's worth, everybody that's in this industry
are even us, even former athletes. We are not active,
active members playing the game anymore. We have a specific duty,
a specific approach that comes along with what we doing
the media and for what is worth. I don't know
(08:03):
about you guys, but for me, I've always felt like
once I became a media personality, because of the things
that I saw and the things that I experienced personally
about how media represents athletes, I saw it fit to
become a media member. That was my main purpose for
wanting to get into media and have a voice. Is
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where more guys that played the game are giving a
voice and giving perspective on what we're seeing take place
in sports. We don't even to me, I don't even
feel like we should even venture down the lane that
stephen A. Smith has ventured down now we've even seen
Shannon Sharp do it. And I'm just wondering your perspective, Fellas,
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what part of this, like, does any of this bother
you about what stephen As has done and said in
regards to how he's handled things with what took place
with Lebron James based upon his criticisms of Bronni and
Lebron James not taking so kindly to what he had
to say. What do you feel like there's no problem
(09:07):
here at all, that's just the evolution of media or
do you see there being a solution to the way
media and athletes are are you know, kind of interacting
with one another, especially the big dogs, cause nobody else
is going to sit there and have this type of
you know, conversation about Lebron James and it goes viral
and it's a discussed this way. It's kind of the
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big dogs in the game that if they come out
and say something crazy that it catches on and takes
on this type of personality.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Stephen A might be the biggest media person out there.
When you sow when you say big dogs, I think
stephen A is the biggest of the big dogs, and
to me, that's how I look at it. I'm never
gonna make it personal. I'm never bringing up anything personal.
Because when I was a player and a reporter or
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anybody in the media brought up some about me, and
it's happened once and they made it personal. I'm like
Buddy lyon what is he talking about? And it pissed
me off, And so I would never do that. I'm
gonna keep it on the field or on the court,
or about your play, about what you did during the game.
(10:18):
Never make it personal. And I think when you cross
that line, we are to talk about how they're performing,
their lack of performing, how great they've played, and we
leave it there. We can give our opinion and we
can think of God may have played good or bad,
or a woman may have played good or bad, and
we leave it there.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
But I think what.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Has happened is the media, specifically Stephen a man when
you making the amount of money that he's making, now
you feel like you can do and say whatever you
want and there's no consequences for it. That's what happens
when you sign a deal for nine figures and you
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feel like I can do and say whatever I want,
and Lebron didn't like the way he was talking about
his son. Whether steven An's right or whether stephen n
is wrong. Our job as parents is to protect our
kids to the day we die. And I know y'all
gonna do it. Y'all know I'm gonna do it, and
obviously Lebron is gonna do it. He didn't take too
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kindly to it. I mean, I think it's unfortunate, really,
to be honest with you, man, that you got a
two of the most successful men in their respective businesses
and respective jobs going at it like this. I really
would wish they would just stop doing it. I'm not
a who's right and who's wrong? To me, it don't
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make any sense. I wish they would stop doing it.
But when both guys are at the top of their profession,
sometimes you know guys is gonna bump pass. I hope
it's over, because what good come from this? Oh if
he would have touched me all to put hands on him,
put up the little box like all that, right, there
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is a call for it because it isn't really badly happen.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
If it's not going to happen, but it's talking tough.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
You ain't putting your hands on nobody.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
If it did happen, it can get really ugly, and
that's what you want to avoid.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, man, I just you know, look at it from
both sides, and you know, I think they were both
in the wrong.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
I mean, I really do.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Let's get back to what LeVar you were saying about,
you know, making it personal. We wouldn't even be having
this conversation if Lebron did not approach stephen A. Smith
the basketball games truth. So Lebron made it personal in
that aspect. Now as I go back and I look
at everything Stephen they had to say about you know,
(12:50):
Bronni James, it wasn't personal.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
It was about basketball.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But Lebron takes it to heart, mainly number one, because
it's his son and he's getting a lot of criticism.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
So Lebron made it personal from the start.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And Stephen A pretty much regards himself as the Lebron
James of media.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
We're talking about two big.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Egos, two big personalities, and the both stubborn. Either one
of them are not going to back down from each other.
And I would hope that Lebron knows that he is
not going to win the war of words with steven A.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Smith. It's his job, it's his profession.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
He's not going he's not going to win this whole
back and forth beef thing.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
With stephen A because of who he is. It's his job.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But I just look at it's getting petty to the
point to where now it has become personal. The fact
that stephen A goes out on a VEMO says, you
know what, I didn't say nothing when you went that.
You know, Dwayne Wade's Hall of Fame induction. I realized
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his son and most lost his life a few days.
I'm not saying that you weren't. You know, they're at
Kobe was more. Now it's gotten personal. It's gotten outside
of basketball, and that's when it gets ugly. And I
hate to see it from both sides because I know
both of these men. I've hanged out, I've worked with
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stephen A. I've been with Lebron. I've known him since
he was in high school. I've been with them, and
you got to understand the personalities of these egos of
these two men. They're not going to back down from
each other. And now it's getting sloppy, it's getting messy,
and I wish that these two men, with the egos
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and a personality that they have, the only way that
this whole thing is going to get rectified if they
go behind closed door and an address it professionals and
as men.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
It would never happen because.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Before all of this, that's not gonna happen. But it
should have happened before.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Honestly, what you just said, kudos, brother Will said.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I just think that that's something that that should have
and even if it should have happened before, now it
should happen now. Whether it's going to happen or not,
I don't know, but that's I agree with you, TJ.
And what what Plex said, that's something that like, for
them to be as influential as they are, for them
to be superstars and what it is that they do
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in industries that they're in, they needed to take this
behind closed door. You had a problem with what he's
saying about Brownie talk about it behind closed doors. Now
it's gotten a little bit blown out of proportion, y'all
talking about physical aspects of y'all. Y'all like really hitting
below the belt with what y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But when it comes to our kids, we all gonna
do it.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You get a little irrational, You get a little irrational.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We all would do it, like, yeah, we're gonna do it.
We score seventeen points. Oh no, no, don't praise he now,
you was just saying he was a bum. Don't praise
he now, like we all are gonna be how lebron would.
We're gonna protect them.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But is he not supposed to praise Brownie and his
son for going out and playing well.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
He's supposed to. It's his job.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And if that doesn't play well, Yes, it's his job.
His neck too, exactly. That's what That's what Stephen has
built his reputation on.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So don't so don't you know, say that, Okay, when
he's not playing well, you can't go on the record
and say that he's playing well and he's doing things that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
We know to who much is given much as expected
out of now, let me ask you this. I can't
can't either one of y'all named any of the second
round pick in the NBA draft from last year.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I don't care, exactly, I don't. I don't care. And
so the point care about talking about Bronnie, To be honest,
I don't care. That's the point the fact is is
that people make this care. They make it matter too much.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
It was a story when it happened, but to still
be doing it right now, to live in the fact
at all, Well, Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Or Hey, if they did a redraft Brian, if they
did a redraft, Bridy would go in the first round.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Man, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I don't care. That's what I'm saying. Like, when it matters,
it'll matter. He scored seventeen points in the game. Great,
he did really well in one games. That's the news.
That's the news that that's not like going all the
way back to when he got drafted, going back to
when the young man had the unfortunate happening. That's not
the news anymore. And to me, that's more on stephen
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A to keep it in those parameters because he is
the top dog in this business. There is a little
bit more of a responsibility that us as media members
that have a voice that people listen to. We have
a little bit more of a expectation in a standard
and away a rule of engagement of which we need
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to carry things. Because if you destroy that, I know
you're saying that that nothing could happen like, Oh, I
make all this money and nothing could happen this, that,
and the other. Steven A. Smith could slip into a
place of mediocrity based upon if the thing that brought
him to prominence is no longer there doing stuff like this.
(18:23):
If you go out, if you're gonna go out lebron
James like this in this simple ass manner, then that
means you'll go at everybody else like that. And you
know what that means, I ain't dealing with you. And
if you lose that relationship between the athlete and yourself,
what do you have? What do you have? I think
that's the biggest question here. Look, we got to take
a break, y'all. I know y'all want to keep going,
(18:45):
or y'all want to talk deon Sanders being, you know,
having an opinion on your door. Y'all, y'all want to
hit on this back and hit on it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Let's let's come back and hit on Bronnie one more
time after this break.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Okay, So here's what we're gonna do, y'all. We're gonna
talk some coach Prime and what he had to say
about his son should or because that's been a hot
button topic. Obviously that has been news. We're gonna discuss that,
but we're gonna wrap this one up. We're gonna put
a cap onto Lebron James Stephen a conversation on the
other side of this break you're listening to up on Game, IT'STJ.
Hitchman's Adez Plex co Burds. I'm LeVar Arrington. This is
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We're on to talk Dion Sanders, Coach Prime and Shador
Sanders and the Draft. Coach Prime has some interesting things
to say about that. But first let's wrap up the
conversation on Lebron James and steven A.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Let me throw this one out at.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
You, guys.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Do you feel as though, like I feel like for
steven A, you don't want to lose As I mentioned
in the first segment, you don't want to lose that
credibility of what you represent because the players are the
reason why Stephen A grew his reputation to the prominent
place of where he's at right now. But for Lebron James,
is this a distraction? You know, this is a team
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that is now playing a little bit better since the
Luca trade and are seemingly in a great position to
be able to compete in the playoffs and see where
they can go with this. Does this create a distraction
for Lebron James sitting here at every turn trying to
combat what people are saying about Bronnie. I mean, I
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know stephen A probably matters more than any other media
personality out there who is critical of Lebron, Bronnie James,
or even Lebron himself. But is this a distraction When
a big name, a big brand, a big dog has
things to say about Bronnie James, does this impact him
and just give me your final thought on the idea,
(21:22):
because I know y'all wanted to kind of close it up.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't believe it's a distraction. You say, he said
what he had to say any and he moved on.
Now you can say it's a distraction because that's what
the way, the way we've been playing. Uh, the way
we lost to the Bulls unbelievable up five with thirteen
seconds left in the NBA and we lose the game.
(21:47):
You could say that. But if he was playing well,
we would say it isn't a distraction. And so I'm
gonna say it isn't. But like I said earlier, I
just hope it's over.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hey, man, from from a personal standpoint, from from father
to son, you know, when you when you take it
off the basketball court. Uh, you know what the this
whole thing started with Bronnie and the way he is
being criticized. I think the over generations generalization of Bronnie
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James started when he was drafted because people didn't believe
or thought that he belonged or have should have been
drafted in the NBA. From to begin with, everybody was
saying that the only reason he got into the NBA
was because of his father. So from from that point on,
it became personal. And I know that my man Tim
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Hardaway would agree with me when I say this, his
criticism is going to be more than any other father
son player in NBA.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Here story.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I look at Tim Hardaway Junior, Scottie Pippen Junior, Kenya
Lawton Jr.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And Gary Payton Jr.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You don't hear the media criticizing these young men of
fathers that have played in the NBA solely because and
it's no disrespect to anybody of any of these young
men and these fathers that I'm talking about, they didn't
have they're not Lebron James. Their career on the basketball
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court and in the business world and off the basketball
court is.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Not Lebron James. So everything that this young man does
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Moving forward, whether it's basketball or not, it's going to
be reported on and it's going to be personal to Lebron.
That's just the nature of who he is and what
he has meant to the game.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Of basketball all around the world.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Everything that his son does moving forward on the basketball court,
it's going to be personal to Lebron James. Because it
is his son. And just like you said, he's going
to protect his family and everybody under his roof and
his family, and that is what he is going to
do for the rest of his life, as long as
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he's living. He's going to protect his family.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
All I'll say this and we'll rap here and move
on to another father son conversation. Is there can be
a replacement for a Stephen A Smith in the media.
You know, the guys get like I look at our
show and we have the conversation all the time, like
why aren't we, you know, more elevated than what we are.
(24:39):
We've been doing this for five years. We ball out
on Saturdays, give people what they want on Saturday for
five years. But this is where we're at. You know,
when people decide they want to make somebody in this business,
that's how it happens. It's an industry of being made right.
Like we speak our mind, we speak our truth, we maintain.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Where we're at.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
We don't kiss nobody's ass. That's what we do, right.
But but some people out here do build their their
pathway that way. And some people do, you know, gain
that that notoriety by being as kissers and I'm just
be honest. He's replaceable. Stephen A. Smith is replaceable as
a personality in the media game, and and you got
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to be aware of that, Like at some point, you
got to be very very mindful of what can be
given to you in a moment like this where you
can be awarded the type of contract as TJ mentioned.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
That that could be gone.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, but I don't think the legacy and the what
Lebron James represents, I do not think that can be replaced.
It can't be replaced. You can move on from it,
and you can continue on. The show will certainly continue
to go on.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Honestly think that.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
This beef with Lebron James and between Steven A. Smith
is helping him build a bigger brand.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
That's what I believe it.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Could have possible could have more collateral damage.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I believe.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I think it has more collateral damage to a guy
like Steven A.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And this is an opinion, but I do not think
that it damages Lebron James. In fact, I think that
other players who idolize, and there are a lot of
them that are in the pro game and a lot
of them at the college game and beyond earlier on
in life that idolize and subscribe to Lebron James. That's
(26:26):
not replaceable. You're not going to replace that, you know
what I mean. Like they'll become who they are, they'll
do what they do. But that could have a tremendously
negative and bad impact on Steven A moving forward with
his career. When you have basically patterned your whole stelo,
your whole persona off of pro basketball players. I mean,
(26:51):
if you didn't know that, how obvious that was when
they started showing him walking into the arena doring during playoffs.
You have patterned yourself. You have patterned yourself after one
of these top NBA players. When you walk into the
arena and you're not one of them, I don't care
how much they put behind you, You're not one of them.
(27:13):
You will never be one of them. So embrace your
role and don't start thinking you're one of them. Where
you jump into these types of situations, them exchanges, you'll
never you'll never win. I know he has the word
of mouth because he's the media, but even having that
word of mouth, even if he got the last word
on Lebron James, the residual impact of what you do
(27:35):
in these situations, Steven A. Smith could hurt you in
the long run in a major way, in a way
that you would have never even thought possible. That's just
my take on it. But let's just move on to
to another father son deal, and well it's coach prime.
And obviously there have been the conversations I said this
(27:55):
week during the weeks during during two pros and a
couple Joe Fellas that Russell Wilson going to the New
York Giants could signify him Shador Sanders now not being
that number three pick that goes to New York, it
could It will most likely be either you know which
(28:17):
I don't see it being Abdul Carter either because I
think he'll go number two to the Browns. I think
Travis Hunter goes three. And if that is the case,
then now you have two opportunities here, seemingly, unless there's
a trade, there's two opportunities, and that is the Las
Vegas Raiders at six, and then it is the New
(28:39):
Orleans Saints at I think it's like what nine, eight
or nine or something like that. If they do not
take Shador Sanders at one of those two picks, this
could be a slide for Schaudorf, going from being talked
about in the top three, top four picks, top five
picks to maybe falling a little, I mean way further
down than that. Here's what Coach Prime had to say
(29:01):
about it, and we'll get your opinion on it. On
the other side of this, here's what Coach Prime had say.
There's no way you want to orchestrate where he goes
or you can, you know, because that's that's not God's
will right now.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And okay, I want your door to do what he's
consistently done, excel against all odds. I like the hate
that act and they saying I like the ignorance because
it makes us feel better about what we do and
it gives him another chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Man, and I agree with that. I listen now that
they have these slotted spots for your rookie deals and
stuff like that, I feel like it's better to go
to a better team or a better organization, which generally
are further down in the draft. When you don't go
top top for the draft pick, then and give him
(29:50):
that opportunity to kind of get in there, develop and
then take over. How do you guys see this like,
does this you know, do you see that as being
an issue if Shador Sanders were to drop, do you
feel as though they may take him still in New
York even though they brought in Jameis Winston, they brought
in Russell Wilson, and they have de veto on the roster.
(30:12):
How do you guys see that's kind of unfolding for
Shador Sanders as we get closer to the draft.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Is gonna be the third pick? Travis Hunt?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To me, it's gonna be cam Ord, Travis Hunter, Shadar Sanders.
I don't see any other way.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
It's not that like the Giants. I see it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The Giants signing Russell Wilson will have zero effect on
whether they draft the quarterback or not. Russell Wilson is
not the quarterback of the future. Jameis Winson is not
the quarterback of the future. The Giants don't have that,
they need that. That's what they're going to do, and
they're hoping Jamis and Russell can help mentor that quarterback.
(30:56):
That's what I believe will be the case, and it's
very possible. General manager and head coach Dable and Shane
or Shane They're not gonna want a quarterback. They know
their jobs is on the line. They want a guy
that can help them win now. But ownership is gonna
want a quarterback. They haven't had one since a comrade
(31:20):
and his quarterback won a Super Bowl. They ain't had
a quarterback since Eli, and so they need to find
a quarterback and they feel they they're hoping they't not
picking this high again.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Win.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Are the Giants gonna be picking this high again to
get a quarterback? And so I believe they're gonna draft
Shadiel Sanders. I don't believe that Duel Carter will go second.
I believe it will be Travis Hunter. And if Travis
Hunter doesn't go second, then it will put a pause
on probably what the Giants want to do, because now
they'll strongly consider drafting Travis Hunter with a third pick
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if he's available.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Once again, we're talking about your door Sanders basically being
one of the best quarterbacks in college football all of
last season. We're talking about him possibly being the best quarterback.
And now we're talking about this young man sliding in
the draft based off of how he looks standing in
front of this podium during the NFL Combine, speaking confidently
(32:25):
about himself, his bravado, and now he's unfit to be
that same quarterback who we just watched all seasons over
four thousand yards.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And it goes back to who his father is.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Deon Sanders and Lebron James and Bonnie James, these guys
are getting the same type of criticism just basically based
off of who their fathers are. And I'm looking at
your door saying as I'm like, well, what the hell
happened since the last football game that he has played?
Why he is not regarded. That's the same player going
(33:02):
into this draft as being one of the top two
picks in this draft.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
T J.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I have to disagree with you. I think that cam
Wood and Shador Sanders are going to go one and two.
I don't believe that the ketand Browns can allow themselves
not to entertain the possibility of adding a franchise, possible
franchise quarterback to this organization. They are in dire need
(33:28):
of one day for the twenty years, Win Kirk Cousins
several times, I believe that they are going to take
Abdu Carter at three. They don't believe. I know that
uh Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston are not longtime solutions
(33:48):
for this organization. They're not going to win this year,
regardless if they do bring in your doors Sanders Uh
with the third pick, because I'm just being I'm keeping
it a buck that they're not going to be better
than the Philadelphia Eagles, They're not going to be better
than Washington, and they're probably not going to be better
than Dallas down if you put a starting rookie quarterback
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in there, I believe, I honestly believe that they will
still finish last in the division. And with that being said,
I believe that they will address defense with Abdual Carter
and next year they will find a way to add
Archie Manning to this football team.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Dang, I think a Duel Carter is going second, and
I do believe that Travis Hunter is going to go
to the Giants. But we'll see what happens. Well, look here,
Abdual Carter believes that he should be the first overall pick,
disagreeing with TJ and plex. We'll see what he has
to say on the other side of Fox Sports Radio's
up on game all Right, we got cuts the Legend
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get out of this first hour and getting an hour
or two and talk with cuffs. Let's finish out. You
guys don't have Abdual Carter going in the top three picks,
(35:17):
but Abdual Carter believes he should be number one over off.
You don't believe me, take a listen to him. Oh
we don't have this sound, Okay, that's wonderful. Well, I
do know there has been sounding, and well I don't
really need to have the sound because well I know
Abdual Carter and it's been very very strongly stated fellas
that he believes he should be the number one overall
(35:41):
pick to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
What say you, guys?
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I mean, I would have loved for y'all to heard
him say it, but you know, I know you guys
have probably heard it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Anyway, when you need a quarterback, if a quarterback is
a first round talent, he's going number one if you
need them. That's just what the game has come to now.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Even if the Great doesn't say that this is the
type of quarterback, because if you think about last year's draft, TJ,
neither one of these and all of respect, dude, but
neither one of these two quarterbacks is a top four
quarterback in last year's draft draft, not either one of them.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Look where the or slated to go. Kenny Pickett wasn't
the first round pick. They said he was a third
round talent. He went in the first round. So quarterbacks,
you see quarterbacks out. Quarterbacks will always be overvalued, and
that's just the world we live in now. And when
a quarterback doesn't have enough weapons, they say, man, we
got to get any more weapons. As soon as you
(36:45):
get any more weapons, you praise him and forgot a
couple of years ago you said he needed more weapons.
That's just the game that we're in now. Quarterbacks will
be overvalued. If you don't have one, they say, you
can't win if you don't have an offensive line. He
on his back, yo, hanno. Receivers who were throwing the two.
Football is an ultimate team game. But uh at Dull
(37:05):
carter I believe has a zero percent chance of going
number one.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Zero percent. Wow, that's aggressive, man. It takes me back
to two thousand drafts. Man, with these two guys that
were drafted one and two one Courtney Brown and to
my days or other for Arrington. Listen, I believe that
the New York Giants are going to draft abdu Quarter
(37:32):
at three. They are not going to make the mistake
of adding a franchise defensive player.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Do you know they got Brian Burrs and Thibodeau. Thibodeau
is probably on his way out. Abdual called it to
the Johns at three.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
All right, well we'll see. Uh this is up on
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
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part of what we do. Fellas, it's Saturday, A lot
of stuff this happen during the course of the week. First,
before we get to everything, TJ Plex Plex TJ. How
are the super Friends doing today? Man? How y'all feeling?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You already know how it is out here?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Man's true, it's trying today. I can't. I can't go
with you all week, but it's trying to do.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We've been in like the eighties, bro, like eighty degrees
every day so clear skuys have weather.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Bro I have not had eight. I've been sixty and
upset you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean you right next to the water though, you
right now? You know all that money you got.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
You right next to the water. You walk out? You
want the water? I got to drive to the water.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Don't do that, don't.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Hey, you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It is pleasantly warm today. It is eighty to grees,
Yes it is. But LaVar, you know what. I want
to go back to what you were saying about my bracket,
your bracket. I might not be.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Doing well in my bracket. Hey, hey, but you.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Know who is doing well on the banks of the
Red Sea.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
The school.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Let's go to all that show team is winning and
play good ball?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Who did Shart?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Teams are never all through the game? Down five?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Fight for the owners, greed and wh miss you why
the point keeps growing with star and teams all bound
to win?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
There tight in with the ra Ra Rocks.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Their team is weekend on the Witness game.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Take a fight for MS you Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Michigan State. Michigan State has done well. It comes to
an end.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What did you say last week about my sports? T J?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I said they were gonna lose, and this is the
weekend they lose. Of course they're going to make it
to the Sweet sixteen. Of course this is the lead.
You mean they won game from the final follow who'd
I said they was gonna lose to do? You recall
it don't matter who the team they play next is
who I said they were going to.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Blood?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Hey, you know what else is cold blooded?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Though?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
This whole beef between Lebron James and Steven A Man. Look,
Lebron James had some interesting things to say on the
Pat McAfee show, and then I guess steven A feels like, well,
I go hand in the hand, I go toe to toe.
I'm stephen A. Smith out this b I yai y ya.
You know what I mean. Here's what Lebron James had
to say about stephen Ah Smith on a McAfee show.
(04:49):
He's like on a Taylor Swift tour run right now. Yeah,
we're watching it.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I mean we're If it's one person that couldn't wait
to the video to drop so you can address it,
is your ass, Like he completely missed the whole points.
Never would I ever not allow people to talk about
the sport criticize players about what they do on the court.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
That is your job, but when.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You take it and you get personal with it, it's
my job to not only protect my damn household, but
protect the players.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
To which one Stephen A. Smith, Well, I think he's
fed up with King James coming at him the way
that he's coming at him, and he had this the
same response.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
I suggest that he'd be happy with the things that
I haven't brought up. I never brought up, really and
never really discussed why you would not at Kobe Bryant's
memorial service. I never really brought up, with disgust why
you did not attend Dwayne Wade's Hall of Fame induction
when that man was directly responsible for you capturing a
championship for the first time of your career. I brought
(05:54):
up none of that. I didn't bring up the fact
that even though when people had asked, you had alluded
to what had happened tragically to your son and thank
god he's okay with his heart condition. I didn't bring
up the fact that even though you couldn't go to
the Hall of Fame induction of the way weeks later,
weeks earlier, you were out of the country on business.
I didn't bring that up. That's your personal business, okay.
(06:17):
But the fact is you wasn't at the Hall of
Fame induction of a brother that's gonna drastically assist to
you being a Hall of Famer because he helped you
become the champion that you were and he was a
big brother to you.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I brought up none of these things.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
But Lebron James at the end of the day wants
to come at me and he's walking around pouting.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I feel like and he Stephen Ay later came out
and corrected the fact that you know, saying that Lebron
was not at Kobe's memorial was inaccurate statement, but said
that he stands on everything else that he said. I
just wanted us to have the conversation because this is
up on game and again, we you know, we take
(06:57):
the approach we don't take a negative approach that we
just take a sensible perspective on things that we hear,
things that take place in the world of sports. This
is one of those topics. Fellas. I gotta say, Stephen,
a crashing out is to me, that is it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate. That media is becoming almost like it's like
(07:22):
replacing what battle rap and beefs in the rap game,
like what that represents. And I think media personalities are
getting a distorted idea and a distortive view of what
we represent in the media. Stephen A, you're a reporter, bro,
stephen A, You're a media personality. You're a media talent.
(07:43):
And for what it's worth, everybody that's in this industry
are even us, even former athletes. We are not active,
active members playing the game anymore. We have a specific duty,
a specific approach that comes along with what we doing
the media and for what is worth. I don't know
(08:03):
about you guys, but for me, I've always felt like
once I became a media personality, because of the things
that I saw and the things that I experienced personally
about how media represents athletes, I saw it fit to
become a media member. That was my main purpose for
wanting to get into media and have a voice. Is
(08:24):
where more guys that played the game are giving a
voice and giving perspective on what we're seeing take place
in sports. We don't even to me, I don't even
feel like we should even venture down the lane that
stephen A. Smith has ventured down now we've even seen
Shannon Sharp do it. And I'm just wondering your perspective, Fellas,
(08:47):
what part of this, like, does any of this bother
you about what stephen As has done and said in
regards to how he's handled things with what took place
with Lebron James based upon his criticisms of Bronni and
Lebron James not taking so kindly to what he had
to say. What do you feel like there's no problem
(09:07):
here at all, that's just the evolution of media or
do you see there being a solution to the way
media and athletes are are you know, kind of interacting
with one another, especially the big dogs, cause nobody else
is going to sit there and have this type of
you know, conversation about Lebron James and it goes viral
and it's a discussed this way. It's kind of the
(09:29):
big dogs in the game that if they come out
and say something crazy that it catches on and takes
on this type of personality.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Stephen A might be the biggest media person out there.
When you sow when you say big dogs, I think
stephen A is the biggest of the big dogs, and
to me, that's how I look at it. I'm never
gonna make it personal. I'm never bringing up anything personal.
Because when I was a player and a reporter or
(09:58):
anybody in the media brought up some about me, and
it's happened once and they made it personal. I'm like
Buddy lyon what is he talking about? And it pissed
me off, And so I would never do that. I'm
gonna keep it on the field or on the court,
or about your play, about what you did during the game.
(10:18):
Never make it personal. And I think when you cross
that line, we are to talk about how they're performing,
their lack of performing, how great they've played, and we
leave it there. We can give our opinion and we
can think of God may have played good or bad,
or a woman may have played good or bad, and
we leave it there.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
But I think what.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Has happened is the media, specifically Stephen a man when
you making the amount of money that he's making, now
you feel like you can do and say whatever you
want and there's no consequences for it. That's what happens
when you sign a deal for nine figures and you
(11:02):
feel like I can do and say whatever I want,
and Lebron didn't like the way he was talking about
his son. Whether steven An's right or whether stephen n
is wrong. Our job as parents is to protect our
kids to the day we die. And I know y'all
gonna do it. Y'all know I'm gonna do it, and
obviously Lebron is gonna do it. He didn't take too
(11:24):
kindly to it. I mean, I think it's unfortunate, really,
to be honest with you, man, that you got a
two of the most successful men in their respective businesses
and respective jobs going at it like this. I really
would wish they would just stop doing it. I'm not
a who's right and who's wrong? To me, it don't
(11:45):
make any sense. I wish they would stop doing it.
But when both guys are at the top of their profession,
sometimes you know guys is gonna bump pass. I hope
it's over, because what good come from this? Oh if
he would have touched me all to put hands on him,
put up the little box like all that, right, there
(12:06):
is a call for it because it isn't really badly happen.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
If it's not going to happen, but it's talking tough.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
You ain't putting your hands on nobody.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
If it did happen, it can get really ugly, and
that's what you want to avoid.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, man, I just you know, look at it from
both sides, and you know, I think they were both
in the wrong.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
I mean, I really do.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Let's get back to what LeVar you were saying about,
you know, making it personal. We wouldn't even be having
this conversation if Lebron did not approach stephen A. Smith
the basketball games truth. So Lebron made it personal in
that aspect. Now as I go back and I look
at everything Stephen they had to say about you know,
(12:50):
Bronni James, it wasn't personal.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
It was about basketball.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But Lebron takes it to heart, mainly number one, because
it's his son and he's getting a lot of criticism.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
So Lebron made it personal from the start.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And Stephen A pretty much regards himself as the Lebron
James of media.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
We're talking about two big.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Egos, two big personalities, and the both stubborn. Either one
of them are not going to back down from each other.
And I would hope that Lebron knows that he is
not going to win the war of words with steven A.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Smith. It's his job, it's his profession.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
He's not going he's not going to win this whole
back and forth beef thing.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
With stephen A because of who he is. It's his job.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But I just look at it's getting petty to the
point to where now it has become personal. The fact
that stephen A goes out on a VEMO says, you
know what, I didn't say nothing when you went that.
You know, Dwayne Wade's Hall of Fame induction. I realized
(14:03):
his son and most lost his life a few days.
I'm not saying that you weren't. You know, they're at
Kobe was more. Now it's gotten personal. It's gotten outside
of basketball, and that's when it gets ugly. And I
hate to see it from both sides because I know
both of these men. I've hanged out, I've worked with
(14:25):
stephen A. I've been with Lebron. I've known him since
he was in high school. I've been with them, and
you got to understand the personalities of these egos of
these two men. They're not going to back down from
each other. And now it's getting sloppy, it's getting messy,
and I wish that these two men, with the egos
(14:46):
and a personality that they have, the only way that
this whole thing is going to get rectified if they
go behind closed door and an address it professionals and
as men.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
It would never happen because.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Before all of this, that's not gonna happen. But it
should have happened before.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Honestly, what you just said, kudos, brother Will said.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I just think that that's something that that should have
and even if it should have happened before, now it
should happen now. Whether it's going to happen or not,
I don't know, but that's I agree with you, TJ.
And what what Plex said, that's something that like, for
them to be as influential as they are, for them
to be superstars and what it is that they do
(15:34):
in industries that they're in, they needed to take this
behind closed door. You had a problem with what he's
saying about Brownie talk about it behind closed doors. Now
it's gotten a little bit blown out of proportion, y'all
talking about physical aspects of y'all. Y'all like really hitting
below the belt with what y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But when it comes to our kids, we all gonna
do it.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You get a little irrational, You get a little irrational.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We all would do it, like, yeah, we're gonna do it.
We score seventeen points. Oh no, no, don't praise he now,
you was just saying he was a bum. Don't praise
he now, like we all are gonna be how lebron would.
We're gonna protect them.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But is he not supposed to praise Brownie and his
son for going out and playing well.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
He's supposed to. It's his job.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And if that doesn't play well, Yes, it's his job.
His neck too, exactly. That's what That's what Stephen has
built his reputation on.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So don't so don't you know, say that, Okay, when
he's not playing well, you can't go on the record
and say that he's playing well and he's doing things that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
We know to who much is given much as expected
out of now, let me ask you this. I can't
can't either one of y'all named any of the second
round pick in the NBA draft from last year.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I don't care, exactly, I don't. I don't care. And
so the point care about talking about Bronnie, To be honest,
I don't care. That's the point the fact is is
that people make this care. They make it matter too much.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
It was a story when it happened, but to still
be doing it right now, to live in the fact
at all, Well, Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Or Hey, if they did a redraft Brian, if they
did a redraft, Bridy would go in the first round.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Man, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I don't care. That's what I'm saying. Like, when it matters,
it'll matter. He scored seventeen points in the game. Great,
he did really well in one games. That's the news.
That's the news that that's not like going all the
way back to when he got drafted, going back to
when the young man had the unfortunate happening. That's not
the news anymore. And to me, that's more on stephen
(17:41):
A to keep it in those parameters because he is
the top dog in this business. There is a little
bit more of a responsibility that us as media members
that have a voice that people listen to. We have
a little bit more of a expectation in a standard
and away a rule of engagement of which we need
(18:02):
to carry things. Because if you destroy that, I know
you're saying that that nothing could happen like, Oh, I
make all this money and nothing could happen this, that,
and the other. Steven A. Smith could slip into a
place of mediocrity based upon if the thing that brought
him to prominence is no longer there doing stuff like this.
(18:23):
If you go out, if you're gonna go out lebron
James like this in this simple ass manner, then that
means you'll go at everybody else like that. And you
know what that means, I ain't dealing with you. And
if you lose that relationship between the athlete and yourself,
what do you have? What do you have? I think
that's the biggest question here. Look, we got to take
a break, y'all. I know y'all want to keep going,
(18:45):
or y'all want to talk deon Sanders being, you know,
having an opinion on your door. Y'all, y'all want to
hit on this back and hit on it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Let's let's come back and hit on Bronnie one more
time after this break.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Okay, So here's what we're gonna do, y'all. We're gonna
talk some coach Prime and what he had to say
about his son should or because that's been a hot
button topic. Obviously that has been news. We're gonna discuss that,
but we're gonna wrap this one up. We're gonna put
a cap onto Lebron James Stephen a conversation on the
other side of this break you're listening to up on Game, IT'STJ.
Hitchman's Adez Plex co Burds. I'm LeVar Arrington. This is
(19:18):
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We're on to talk Dion Sanders, Coach Prime and Shador
Sanders and the Draft. Coach Prime has some interesting things
to say about that. But first let's wrap up the
conversation on Lebron James and steven A.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Let me throw this one out at.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
You, guys.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Do you feel as though, like I feel like for
steven A, you don't want to lose As I mentioned
in the first segment, you don't want to lose that
credibility of what you represent because the players are the
reason why Stephen A grew his reputation to the prominent
place of where he's at right now. But for Lebron James,
is this a distraction? You know, this is a team
(20:39):
that is now playing a little bit better since the
Luca trade and are seemingly in a great position to
be able to compete in the playoffs and see where
they can go with this. Does this create a distraction
for Lebron James sitting here at every turn trying to
combat what people are saying about Bronnie. I mean, I
(21:01):
know stephen A probably matters more than any other media
personality out there who is critical of Lebron, Bronnie James,
or even Lebron himself. But is this a distraction When
a big name, a big brand, a big dog has
things to say about Bronnie James, does this impact him
and just give me your final thought on the idea,
(21:22):
because I know y'all wanted to kind of close it up.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't believe it's a distraction. You say, he said
what he had to say any and he moved on.
Now you can say it's a distraction because that's what
the way, the way we've been playing. Uh, the way
we lost to the Bulls unbelievable up five with thirteen
seconds left in the NBA and we lose the game.
(21:47):
You could say that. But if he was playing well,
we would say it isn't a distraction. And so I'm
gonna say it isn't. But like I said earlier, I
just hope it's over.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hey, man, from from a personal standpoint, from from father
to son, you know, when you when you take it
off the basketball court. Uh, you know what the this
whole thing started with Bronnie and the way he is
being criticized. I think the over generations generalization of Bronnie
(22:20):
James started when he was drafted because people didn't believe
or thought that he belonged or have should have been
drafted in the NBA. From to begin with, everybody was
saying that the only reason he got into the NBA
was because of his father. So from from that point on,
it became personal. And I know that my man Tim
(22:45):
Hardaway would agree with me when I say this, his
criticism is going to be more than any other father
son player in NBA.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Here story.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I look at Tim Hardaway Junior, Scottie Pippen Junior, Kenya
Lawton Jr.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And Gary Payton Jr.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You don't hear the media criticizing these young men of
fathers that have played in the NBA solely because and
it's no disrespect to anybody of any of these young
men and these fathers that I'm talking about, they didn't
have they're not Lebron James. Their career on the basketball
(23:29):
court and in the business world and off the basketball
court is.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Not Lebron James. So everything that this young man does
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Moving forward, whether it's basketball or not, it's going to
be reported on and it's going to be personal to Lebron.
That's just the nature of who he is and what
he has meant to the game.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Of basketball all around the world.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Everything that his son does moving forward on the basketball court,
it's going to be personal to Lebron James. Because it
is his son. And just like you said, he's going
to protect his family and everybody under his roof and
his family, and that is what he is going to
do for the rest of his life, as long as
(24:17):
he's living. He's going to protect his family.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
All I'll say this and we'll rap here and move
on to another father son conversation. Is there can be
a replacement for a Stephen A Smith in the media.
You know, the guys get like I look at our
show and we have the conversation all the time, like
why aren't we, you know, more elevated than what we are.
(24:39):
We've been doing this for five years. We ball out
on Saturdays, give people what they want on Saturday for
five years. But this is where we're at. You know,
when people decide they want to make somebody in this business,
that's how it happens. It's an industry of being made right.
Like we speak our mind, we speak our truth, we maintain.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Where we're at.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
We don't kiss nobody's ass. That's what we do, right.
But but some people out here do build their their
pathway that way. And some people do, you know, gain
that that notoriety by being as kissers and I'm just
be honest. He's replaceable. Stephen A. Smith is replaceable as
a personality in the media game, and and you got
(25:19):
to be aware of that, Like at some point, you
got to be very very mindful of what can be
given to you in a moment like this where you
can be awarded the type of contract as TJ mentioned.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
That that could be gone.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, but I don't think the legacy and the what
Lebron James represents, I do not think that can be replaced.
It can't be replaced. You can move on from it,
and you can continue on. The show will certainly continue
to go on.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Honestly think that.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
This beef with Lebron James and between Steven A. Smith
is helping him build a bigger brand.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
That's what I believe it.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Could have possible could have more collateral damage.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I believe.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I think it has more collateral damage to a guy
like Steven A.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And this is an opinion, but I do not think
that it damages Lebron James. In fact, I think that
other players who idolize, and there are a lot of
them that are in the pro game and a lot
of them at the college game and beyond earlier on
in life that idolize and subscribe to Lebron James. That's
(26:26):
not replaceable. You're not going to replace that, you know
what I mean. Like they'll become who they are, they'll
do what they do. But that could have a tremendously
negative and bad impact on Steven A moving forward with
his career. When you have basically patterned your whole stelo,
your whole persona off of pro basketball players. I mean,
(26:51):
if you didn't know that, how obvious that was when
they started showing him walking into the arena doring during playoffs.
You have patterned yourself. You have patterned yourself after one
of these top NBA players. When you walk into the
arena and you're not one of them, I don't care
how much they put behind you, You're not one of them.
(27:13):
You will never be one of them. So embrace your
role and don't start thinking you're one of them. Where
you jump into these types of situations, them exchanges, you'll
never you'll never win. I know he has the word
of mouth because he's the media, but even having that
word of mouth, even if he got the last word
on Lebron James, the residual impact of what you do
(27:35):
in these situations, Steven A. Smith could hurt you in
the long run in a major way, in a way
that you would have never even thought possible. That's just
my take on it. But let's just move on to
to another father son deal, and well it's coach prime.
And obviously there have been the conversations I said this
(27:55):
week during the weeks during during two pros and a
couple Joe Fellas that Russell Wilson going to the New
York Giants could signify him Shador Sanders now not being
that number three pick that goes to New York, it
could It will most likely be either you know which
(28:17):
I don't see it being Abdul Carter either because I
think he'll go number two to the Browns. I think
Travis Hunter goes three. And if that is the case,
then now you have two opportunities here, seemingly, unless there's
a trade, there's two opportunities, and that is the Las
Vegas Raiders at six, and then it is the New
(28:39):
Orleans Saints at I think it's like what nine, eight
or nine or something like that. If they do not
take Shador Sanders at one of those two picks, this
could be a slide for Schaudorf, going from being talked
about in the top three, top four picks, top five
picks to maybe falling a little, I mean way further
down than that. Here's what Coach Prime had to say
(29:01):
about it, and we'll get your opinion on it. On
the other side of this, here's what Coach Prime had say.
There's no way you want to orchestrate where he goes
or you can, you know, because that's that's not God's
will right now.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And okay, I want your door to do what he's
consistently done, excel against all odds. I like the hate
that act and they saying I like the ignorance because
it makes us feel better about what we do and
it gives him another chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Man, and I agree with that. I listen now that
they have these slotted spots for your rookie deals and
stuff like that, I feel like it's better to go
to a better team or a better organization, which generally
are further down in the draft. When you don't go
top top for the draft pick, then and give him
(29:50):
that opportunity to kind of get in there, develop and
then take over. How do you guys see this like,
does this you know, do you see that as being
an issue if Shador Sanders were to drop, do you
feel as though they may take him still in New
York even though they brought in Jameis Winston, they brought
in Russell Wilson, and they have de veto on the roster.
(30:12):
How do you guys see that's kind of unfolding for
Shador Sanders as we get closer to the draft.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Is gonna be the third pick? Travis Hunt?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To me, it's gonna be cam Ord, Travis Hunter, Shadar Sanders.
I don't see any other way.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
It's not that like the Giants. I see it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The Giants signing Russell Wilson will have zero effect on
whether they draft the quarterback or not. Russell Wilson is
not the quarterback of the future. Jameis Winson is not
the quarterback of the future. The Giants don't have that,
they need that. That's what they're going to do, and
they're hoping Jamis and Russell can help mentor that quarterback.
(30:56):
That's what I believe will be the case, and it's
very possible. General manager and head coach Dable and Shane
or Shane They're not gonna want a quarterback. They know
their jobs is on the line. They want a guy
that can help them win now. But ownership is gonna
want a quarterback. They haven't had one since a comrade
(31:20):
and his quarterback won a Super Bowl. They ain't had
a quarterback since Eli, and so they need to find
a quarterback and they feel they they're hoping they't not
picking this high again.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Win.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Are the Giants gonna be picking this high again to
get a quarterback? And so I believe they're gonna draft
Shadiel Sanders. I don't believe that Duel Carter will go second.
I believe it will be Travis Hunter. And if Travis
Hunter doesn't go second, then it will put a pause
on probably what the Giants want to do, because now
they'll strongly consider drafting Travis Hunter with a third pick
(31:56):
if he's available.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Once again, we're talking about your door Sanders basically being
one of the best quarterbacks in college football all of
last season. We're talking about him possibly being the best quarterback.
And now we're talking about this young man sliding in
the draft based off of how he looks standing in
front of this podium during the NFL Combine, speaking confidently
(32:25):
about himself, his bravado, and now he's unfit to be
that same quarterback who we just watched all seasons over
four thousand yards.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And it goes back to who his father is.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Deon Sanders and Lebron James and Bonnie James, these guys
are getting the same type of criticism just basically based
off of who their fathers are. And I'm looking at
your door saying as I'm like, well, what the hell
happened since the last football game that he has played?
Why he is not regarded. That's the same player going
(33:02):
into this draft as being one of the top two
picks in this draft.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
T J.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I have to disagree with you. I think that cam
Wood and Shador Sanders are going to go one and two.
I don't believe that the ketand Browns can allow themselves
not to entertain the possibility of adding a franchise, possible
franchise quarterback to this organization. They are in dire need
(33:28):
of one day for the twenty years, Win Kirk Cousins
several times, I believe that they are going to take
Abdu Carter at three. They don't believe. I know that
uh Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston are not longtime solutions
(33:48):
for this organization. They're not going to win this year,
regardless if they do bring in your doors Sanders Uh
with the third pick, because I'm just being I'm keeping
it a buck that they're not going to be better
than the Philadelphia Eagles, They're not going to be better
than Washington, and they're probably not going to be better
than Dallas down if you put a starting rookie quarterback
(34:12):
in there, I believe, I honestly believe that they will
still finish last in the division. And with that being said,
I believe that they will address defense with Abdual Carter
and next year they will find a way to add
Archie Manning to this football team.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Dang, I think a Duel Carter is going second, and
I do believe that Travis Hunter is going to go
to the Giants. But we'll see what happens. Well, look here,
Abdual Carter believes that he should be the first overall pick,
disagreeing with TJ and plex. We'll see what he has
to say on the other side of Fox Sports Radio's
up on game all Right, we got cuts the Legend
coming up in an hour two in a matter of minutes.
(34:53):
But first, you know what, be sure you check out
the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. I told you guys that,
all right, and make sure you subscribe. Make sure you
also check out the podcast so that you know you
can hear what we had to say, fellas before we
get out of this first hour and getting an hour
or two and talk with cuffs. Let's finish out. You
guys don't have Abdual Carter going in the top three picks,
(35:17):
but Abdual Carter believes he should be number one over off.
You don't believe me, take a listen to him. Oh
we don't have this sound, Okay, that's wonderful. Well, I
do know there has been sounding, and well I don't
really need to have the sound because well I know
Abdual Carter and it's been very very strongly stated fellas
that he believes he should be the number one overall
(35:41):
pick to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
What say you, guys?
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I mean, I would have loved for y'all to heard
him say it, but you know, I know you guys
have probably heard it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Anyway, when you need a quarterback, if a quarterback is
a first round talent, he's going number one if you
need them. That's just what the game has come to now.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Even if the Great doesn't say that this is the
type of quarterback, because if you think about last year's draft, TJ,
neither one of these and all of respect, dude, but
neither one of these two quarterbacks is a top four
quarterback in last year's draft draft, not either one of them.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Look where the or slated to go. Kenny Pickett wasn't
the first round pick. They said he was a third
round talent. He went in the first round. So quarterbacks,
you see quarterbacks out. Quarterbacks will always be overvalued, and
that's just the world we live in now. And when
a quarterback doesn't have enough weapons, they say, man, we
got to get any more weapons. As soon as you
(36:45):
get any more weapons, you praise him and forgot a
couple of years ago you said he needed more weapons.
That's just the game that we're in now. Quarterbacks will
be overvalued. If you don't have one, they say, you
can't win if you don't have an offensive line. He
on his back, yo, hanno. Receivers who were throwing the two.
Football is an ultimate team game. But uh at Dull
(37:05):
carter I believe has a zero percent chance of going
number one.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Zero percent. Wow, that's aggressive, man. It takes me back
to two thousand drafts. Man, with these two guys that
were drafted one and two one Courtney Brown and to
my days or other for Arrington. Listen, I believe that
the New York Giants are going to draft abdu Quarter
(37:32):
at three. They are not going to make the mistake
of adding a franchise defensive player.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Do you know they got Brian Burrs and Thibodeau. Thibodeau
is probably on his way out. Abdual called it to
the Johns at three.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
All right, well we'll see. Uh this is up on
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