Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 28 2025 - Verdict with Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us Thursday edition of the program,
and we have got a ton to dive into with
all of you. Mary Margaret Olahan, who has been with
us on before, I think at the RNC, has done

(00:21):
really good work looking at Minnesota law as it pertains
to the shooting, which we're going to get more into today.
The next we hope Governor of Virginia wins some seers
will be on with us an hour two and then
Trey Goudy of Fox News, and we're gonna have to
ask him about some of the comments that he has
made that went megaviral on Fox News yesterday. He has

(00:44):
a book out, he was already scheduled to be on.
Each of those will be guests, respectively in the next
three hours.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
But we begin with all of you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And the continued fallout from the awful attack yesterday where
a trans terrorist shooter with kill Donald Trump written on
the gun. Six million was not enough anti submitic commentary, evil,
true evil that was brought to bear in that attack yesterday,

(01:17):
and as more details have come out, I just want
to lay this out for you and I would say.
My statement right off the top is it's time for
good people, mom's dads, grandma's grandpas, all of you out
there that cares about kids to really significantly stop trying
to be kind and be willing to acknowledge that almost

(01:40):
everyone who is claiming that their trans has a severe
mental illness. And this is a perfect example I think
of toxic empathy. You're trying to be kind, you're trying
to work with the kid. In almost all circumstances, that's
going to make things worse. And this situation which we
just went through in Minneapolis is a horrible echo of

(02:04):
what happened in Nashville, Tennessee, back just less than two
years ago, I believe, and let me lay this out.
You had, in both situations a transshooter who had attended
a religious school decide that, in the case of Nashville,
a girl who was trying to transition to being a boy,

(02:27):
in the case of Minneapolis, a boy who was trying
to transition to being a girl. Miners who received treatments
for their trans delusions decided to go into those schools
and try to murder as many young Christian kids as possible.
In both situations, they pre stalked their site. They made

(02:50):
the decision to try to kill as many people as possible. Buck,
as we were just sitting down to start the show,
you shared a tweet from Caitlin Collins CNN which says
that this killer had been touring the school basically to
try to find out the way to kill as many
people as possible. It is true evil, and I think

(03:13):
the evil, frankly, is being accelerated, is being exacerbated, is
being made worse by the fact that these people are
on all sorts of drugs, trying to in some way
alter the biological reality of their sex. And I think
it's making frankly, them more likely to be violent. And
I think it's time for reasonable people to stand up

(03:35):
against this and say we have to stop this.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
The mass murder of children here. Pretended that he was
going to go back to the church, or that he
was trying to come back into the church as a
believer and had a previous affiliation with it, so used
the connection that he had had previously as a cover

(04:01):
for the operational surveillance that he did of a school
with kids in it. A defense the school with kids
in it. Demons live among us, and this person was
a demon. And there are so many, unfortunately different factors
that go into this, and our society is making a
lot of this stuff worse, making a lot of what

(04:24):
I think could be handled earlier on. I mean, look,
the biggest one for me is the ideology of trans
people are able to change their gender. And if you
don't believe this, you're a Nazi and you are committing genocide.
And this is there's language like this all over the
internet right now in response what happened yesterday. That is

(04:45):
completely insane. It is absolutely reckless. It reminds me Clay
of the of the first BLM, the first BLM series
of protests after Ferguson, there were all these marches and
rallies that were going on, and I went to some
to at the time, I was working at The Blaze.
I went to cover these rallies and you could just go.
You'd see at the rallies they were just talking about

(05:07):
evil racist cops killing black men all the time, all
the time, day in and day out. And it's a lie.
It's horrible, it's disgraceful, and I understand that most people
will hear that and just have really bad politics be
really stupid and vote Democrat. But some people do more
than that because they see mobs of people channing the
same slogan. And that ended with I believe it was

(05:31):
five officers in Texas all being gone down by that
BLM maniac who was like, look, these cops are killing
on armed black men. I need to step in and
do something about this, and he murdered police officers in
cold blood. I think it was five of them. Horrific
by the media is completely memory hold that. You know
when the media says that if you don't want people
to have socialized medicine, you're hoping they die from cancer.

(05:54):
By the way, we don't even talk really about healthcare anymore.
The Democrats have just made healthcare worse in every respect
in this country. Obamacare is an absolute failure and in
every metric you can look at in terms of price,
in terms of access, all it did gives you is
coveras you don't use and an excuse to have you
subsidized illegals and other people who are in the country.

(06:16):
So but put that aside for a second. The guy
who is shooting at rand Paul and others and shot
stavescalis at that baseball Diamond was saying, this is for healthcare. Well,
you could say, well, oh, you can't blame somebody for
you can't blame an ideology for one person's actions. Well,
if the ideology is you're murdering people en mass because

(06:37):
of your policy, if you take it to that extent,
and this is what brings me then to Trump, They
say that Trump is even Gavin Newsom, We can play this.
Gavin Newsom is a is a shameless, soulless liar, a
power mad, narcissistic, vile human being, and he's saying that
he doesn't think there's going to be an election in
twenty twenty eight. Now, for most Democrats who hear that,

(07:00):
it's just oh, yeah, I hate Trump. You hate Trump.
This is a way of expressing our Trump hatred because
he's gonna seize power forever. But for some people, they
hear this and they go hold on. The governor of
California is saying this, Clay. The New York Times is
going along with this kind of rhetoric. You know, CNN
is going along.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
CNN last night they referred to.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
This guy as a she.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
By the way, Yeah, we need to play that audio. Yeah,
well we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Here. Look here, here's Newsom. I mean, I know that
you've already called them out on this cut twenty is
Gavin Newsom saying that there won't be an election in
twenty eight. Play it.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I don't think Donald Trump wants another election. You think
for a second you want I have two dozen Trump
twenty twenty eight hats his folks keep sending me. Who
spends two hundred million dollars on a ballroom at their
home and then leaves the house.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
This is serious, guys, This is serious.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
So it'll be Newsome Trump in twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
No, No, this is there's no This guy doesn't believe in free,
fair elections. He could try to wreck this country.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Will be did you there?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
January sixth, I mean he tried to light democracy on fire.
He dialed for eleven almost twelve thousand votes. Now he's
doing it in a plain sight, and people said, oh,
just Trump being Trump. People actually think this guy's serious
about having another election. You think he's joking about twenty
twenty eight. Wake up, you will lose your country again.
It's not about Democrats or but it's about.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
All of us. You're absolutely convinced.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I'm absolutely twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
You've seen it.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
He's tried to steal the last election. He tried to
trying to rig it in plain sight.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
This time, you will lose your country, Clay, he's a
dictator in the making. You will lose everything you will
hold deer. He's either a liar, which we all know
he is, or he's so crazy that he doesn't understand
that people hear this and they take him seriously.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
The second would be Trump assassin. Almost no one even
talks about assassination two point zero at the Trump West
Palm Beach golf course, where the guy I laid in
wait all day with his gun and Trump was playing
golf and he came within a hole. Nobody ever asked
how did that guy know that Trump was going to
be playing golf that day? How did he stay in

(09:11):
that bushline for hours? Only getting stopped because a woman
in the parking lot happened to see him flee and
write down his license plate number. Otherwise we may not
even know who that guy is. What did he say
was the reason why he was trying to kill Trump?
Because he believed Democrat rhetoric that Trump was a dictator,

(09:33):
that Trump was hitler and he felt like he needed
to kill him. Now, that person I think has major
mental health issues, as many people who engage in acts
of mass violence do. But the logic under which he
acted presupposed that what was said was true, that Trump
was Hitler. If Trump was in fact Hitler, then killing

(09:56):
him would be justified.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
That is the process in his mind through which he went.
When Gavin Newsom is telling you this, he is saying
Trump is a dictator and people out there who believe him.
And I just tweeted, Hey, Gavin Newsom, I'll bet you
ten million dollars that we have an election in twenty
twenty eight. Put your money where your mouth is, and
if he bets me, I'll donate the ten million dollars

(10:19):
I win to charity. But these lies have consequences because
in the brain of broken people, they accept them as truth.
I don't think Gavin Newsom actually believes what he's saying.
He's saying it because he thinks he gets political advantage
from it, because the base of the left in the
Democrat Party is so broken. But there are consequences when
you tell crazy people crazy things. Well, there are a

(10:41):
lot of crazy Democrats. I've also said before that.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I think if you looked at male testosterone levels, you
would have a very good indicator whether someone votes Republican
or Democrat. I also think if you looked at emotional
and psychological stability, you'd have a very good The Republican
Party is the party of psychological stability in America today,
just a fact. And if you look get self described
happiness and health and and you know, use of different

(11:06):
psychiatric medications and stuff, the Democrats have a lock on
all that stuff. I mean, the Democrats are the party
of the emotionally and psychologically unstable. And when you have
people at the very top of that party saying things
like what Gaven Newsen was just saying their clay, or
when you have people at the very top of that
party who so this is the thing. It's not in
the in the crevices of the dark web, it's not

(11:28):
in the places on the internet where most of us
never venture or go. This is from the top. This
is the difference. You know. They love to do this thing.
On the right. They'll find some person who's just like
a psycho loser that no one's ever heard of before,
who has some vaguely right wing views or has some
some racist views, and it's immediately Donald Trump's fault. And
you'll say, well, hold on a second, what does this

(11:50):
actually have to do with Trump. He's ignoring what Trump
actually says. He's ignoring the reality of who Trump puts
some positions of power. I mean, you have this whole Meanwhile,
the Democrats say things that, if what they say explicitly
is true, the crazy justice, the crazy actions of some
of these individuals, seems in their minds entirely justified, the
end of the Republic, the genocide of trans people. This

(12:12):
is widespread rhetoric that they use, so and from the
top of the party, from the most powerful voices, the
most trusted voices among their own ideological kind. And then
really bad things happen. This is supposed to be a surprise.
It's going to keep happening.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I would just say, hold us to the same standard
as Gavin Newsom. You and I have been here together
for over four years. Now, what crazy thing have we said?
The equivalent of there's not going to be an election
in twenty twenty eight. I mean, we've gotten things wrong.
We're not perfect, but we haven't I don't even think
we've said anything even in the same state, in the

(12:53):
same country, as there's not going to be an election
in twenty twenty eight because Trump is going to be
a dictator.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You and I are very explicit when we're angry about things,
and I get very angry about some things on the show.
Sometimes you did too. I think you get less. You
get angry less often than I do about this stuff.
But you know this is just you have a sunny disposition.
But when we're really when something is you're really passionate,
but you're really angry about it. I'll say things like,
for example, somebody like like took a shot at the

(13:21):
CDC recently. This person's an absolute moron who should be
imprisoned to the fullest extent of the law. And that
is something that he has done. If you were to
go and look at what do people like me and
you and others say about the CDC were saying they
need to replace some of the senior leadership there with
people who are more science based. I'm not saying that

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the CDC are about to round us up in camps
and experiment on us like animals and like kill us all.
Like I'm not saying crazy stuff. You're not saying crazy stuff.
We're saying, working within the system, the rule of law
and morality and ethics, how do we address these problems.
But that's not what them. When you're saying that people
pople are committing genocide because they have to pretend that

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a guy with a penis is a woman, you're actually
not working within the realm of reality, ethics and rule
of law. And the Democrats do this on a whole
range of issues over and over. They are manufacturing.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Delusions and emotionally creating empathy, which actually is toxic for
many of the people the empathy is being created for.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I spit again.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I just think it's time for parents out there to
recognize that what you are being told you need to
do for the betterment of your kid, which is why
this emotional blackmail is so effective. Your kid's going to
kill themselves unless you listen to us and chop their
boobs off, or decide that you're going to give them
bottom surgery or whatever the heck it is. It's emotional

(14:50):
blackmail on parents, and it makes me sick on it.
I know you have to go to break I just
want to say this. You know, we had Dave Rutherford
on yesterday and he's an incredible guy. He's a dear
friend of mine, and he's a true I mean, he's
he's he.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Was in this. You know, when you think of combat,
Rutherford saw combat, you know, and he was a medic
and he had to deal with all this stuff. Imagine,
Imagine if if veterans came back and they had they
had severe PTSD, and we said no, no, no, no no.
You know, you should just drink yourself into it. You
should just drink yourself into a coma. You should blame
yourself for everything. You shouldn't seek help at all. The

(15:23):
psychological trauma that you're suffering from. This is actually something
that you know, should in some way be celebrated or encouraged.
That would It's completely insane, It's destructive. We'd be like
telling somebody, hey, you have pneumonia, you know, just roll
with it, don't take antibiotics. Getting people help when they
need help is the honorable, ethical thing to do.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Amen uh.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
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Speaker 1 (17:00):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. I want
to give credit right now to Mary Margaret Olahan, who
also wrote a book By the Way d trans I believe.
We had her on the show to partly talk about
this true stories of escaping the gender ideology cult. And

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she has book a story up right now which I
was reading last night. Shared it on Twitter. I'm sure
we'll link it at Clay and Buck as well. Minnesota
Catholic school leader warned Tim Walls of critical school safety
threats in the wake of the Nashville school shooting. He
did nothing, Mary, Margaret, appreciate you coming on with us. Obviously,

(17:42):
we've been talking a great deal about what happened in
Minneapolis and now the tragic connection to what happened in
the Covenant School shooting in Nashville. What does your reporting
tell you about what Governor Tim Walls did in the
wake of the Nashville shooting.

Speaker 8 (17:58):
Hey, guys, it's great to be here actually outside the
White House right now before I go in for the
press briefing in a few minutes. But you know, I
wanted to talk about this report. We did because we
found that these leaders of Catholic and independent schools out
in Minnesota. They sent a letter to Tim Walsh one
week after the Covenant Christian School shooting, where a trans

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identifying shooter killed kids at Covenant Christian School in Nashville.
One week after that, they sent a letter to Tim
Walsh saying, look, we have a very serious security concern here.
We have seen a number of shootings targeting kids, especially
kids of faith, and we need to up our security
for non public schools, so private, Catholic, Christian, Muslim, Jewish,

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you name it. And they expressed these concerns to Tim
Walsh and asked for his help. They had meetings at him,
they talked about it. He supposedly expressed a desire to
protect these types of kids too, but ultimately nothing was done.
And I confirmed that when I talked to some of
these leaders yesterday, the ones that sent a letter, they
told me that ultimately nothing was done. And now yesterday

(19:07):
we see that another trans identifying shooter targeted kids at
a Catholic school because they were a Catholic. And so
here we are again, and you know, this is something
that I'm definitely interested in asking about in the briefing. Shortly,
because we have multiple shootings involving a trans identifying shooter
targeting Christian kids. We have Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota,

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being asked to help protect kids in schools exactly like
this and nothing was done.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Was there any reason, Mary Margaret offered, So you've laid
out for us that there was this ask, there was
this exchange. Obviously we know why the leaders of these
Catholic schools would want this. You know, I'm down here
in South Florida, for example, and the security of synagogues
and Jewish sites of interest here is the whole community

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knows that they have to take that incredibly seriously, and
that is taken seriously by the authorities as well. Why
wouldn't they get the help? Was there any Was it
just a budgetary issue? Will Tim Walls fell asleep on
the job here? What happened?

Speaker 8 (20:12):
Well, that is a great question. And I actually asked
Tim Walsh's team myself this yesterday because it seems kind
of like a no brainer. After a shooter targets Christian students,
you want to make sure that the Christian students in
your state are protected. And when I asked Tim Walf's
team what stepths did you guys take to protect kids?

(20:33):
They gave me an evasive answer and didn't even address
that actual question. They tried to pretend that they were
hung up on questions of funding and said that they
do fund private schools, when in fact I had asked,
did you guys fund these safety measures for private schools?
So this is an evasive technique on the part of
Tim Walsh's team. And what I can tell you, and

(20:55):
this is this is even crazier is in the same
year that Tim Wolls was being asked to protect these
Catholic and Christian schools and he didn't do it, he
did provide more protections for trans identifying people in the state,
and he signed legislation establishing Minnesota as a quote trans
refuge and promised to protect those seeking gender affirming care,

(21:17):
which we know is actually just a euphemism for transgender surgery,
hormones and puberty blockers. So while he wasn't helping, he
was actually pushing this transagenda, which we now know has
hurt so many young people. We talked about this when
I came out and talked about my book last summer.
It's hurting so many young people, it's pushing them down
this path that's an ideological one. And we even have

(21:41):
like Trump's FTC investigating these doctors and therapists who are
pushing this on kids because it's all a lie. So
this is just a massive scandal of like massive, massive levels.
And you know, we're seeing more and more Democrats shying
away from the issue as they realize that it's being unmasked.
But in this case, Tim will was a huge proponent

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of this ideology, and I think you should have to
answer for that.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I was talking about this with Buck off Air Mary
Margaret yesterday. We went hard, frankly at the idea that
we're giving all these kids these drugs. And now we've
had the shooting in Nashville, we've had the shooting in Minneapolis.
All of the evidence continues to come out that this
is very much toxic empathy that parents are being taken
advantage of. I saw very little pushback. Now we'll play

(22:28):
some of the cuts of people trying to make that argument.
But I'm talking about on social media. You wrote this
book about it. I'm sure you got attacked then, But
it feels like reasonable moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas
are starting to have their their minds opened up here
that they've been taken advantage of. In terms of trying

(22:48):
to treat this as if it is a real medical condition,
what would you tell moms and dads out there listening
all over the country to us right now, if they're
twelve year old or they're thirteen year old, comes to
them and says, hey, I'm a different sex. What is
the data show and what is the appropriate in your

(23:08):
mind way to handle this if you're a parent, I
know it's a big and a difficult question, but I
think a lot of parents are thinking about it in
the wake of the shooting, and as we've continued to
see so many more people coming out and trying to
d trans after having these surgeries.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
Yeah, it absolutely is probably one of the scariest questions
that a parent can base in this day and age,
not only because of the magnanimity of what we're dealing with,
coming up against the gender ideology, you know, cults, the institution,
this massive group of people that are pushing this, but
also because a lot of these parents, if they take
their kids to the doctor, are going to be told

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that their kid is transgender. They'll be asked, would you
rather have a dead daughter or a living son or
vice versa. And this is a question post to parents
pretty much across the board. Every d transitioner that I've
spoke with has told me their parents were given this ultimatum.
We don't know this for sure yet, but it's possible
that this trans identifying shooter that killed kids at Annunciation

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Church yesterday, it's possible that his mother faced the same
question and conundrum and they don't know what to do
about it. And so my advice would be, do your research.
When your child comes to you and says hey mom,
if your little girl comes to you and says, hey mom,
I'm a boy, don't fall prey to the anxieties. Don't
trust medical institution, do some basic research and realize you're

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not alone. There's many, many other kids that have come
up against this ideology due to social media, activist teachers,
activist therapists and doctors. Find community. Get your kid out
of this school that your child is at, because odds
are it's the school and the teachers that are pushing
this on them. Take their phone away from them. That

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is the biggest, biggest danger that kids these days are facing.
Take their phone away from them. No laptops upstairs. These
are some of the biggest dangers that our kids are facing.
These and a lot of parents think that it's just
mean or you know, makes their child feel stupid to
not have that technology. Your child will benefit enormously from
not having access to transgender ideology online, I promise you.

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So there's so many steps that can be taken, and
there's so many organizations that can help parents. Defending Education.
It's one organization that is really vociferous on this issue,
Do No Harm. They're really great. They've partnered with tons
of de transitioners, and then the d transitioners themselves, Chloe Cole, Precha, Maudsley,
all of these young women will speak out against the

(25:32):
dangers of this ideology, and frankly, their stories of the
reason I wrote my book because their stories are more
powerful than pretty much any argument that you or I
could present, because they've lived it, they know how dangerous
and horrible it is, they suffered through it, and now
they live to tell the tale, thank God. So I
consider their stories to be some of the most powerful,
and I would definitely refer parents and anyone any young

(25:56):
person that's questioning their gender to go and listen to
these stories and understands the gravity of what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Talking to Mary Margaret Olahan, DELI Wire's White House correspondent,
and Mary Margaret in your in your research on this issue.
As we just mentioned, you've written a book on this,
and you've been following this very closely. We had a
caller yesterday who raised a very good point. Client and
I have talked about it before, but the caller gave
us an important reminder of it. What is the when

(26:26):
I'm sure you've come up against this, and if you
look at these clinics and the doctors that are doing
these things, if the plumbing does not determine the gender
so to speak, what is the justification for these surgeries
that imperfectly to put it, mildly change the plumbing, Like,
what is the rationale behind that?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Because they'll say, it doesn't matter what the parts are,
it's what you feel that's gender. But then why do
we have this whole process of putting pharmaceuticals and puberty
blockers and all these things, and then even surgery to
change the plumbing, show to speak, if it doesn't make
a difference to gender.

Speaker 8 (27:07):
Well you would have to ask some of these doctors
and therapists that, because they're the ones that with.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Very very very little Oh no, I get that, Mary Margant.
I'm just asking you. Have you ever heard any of
them try to explain or give any rationale for that,
because I do think it's a very important and powerful point.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
What they try and do to rationalize it is to
just give you these platitudes, these ideological sayings. They'll try
and tell you that you don't understand because you're not
well versed in this ideology, but you're right at the
end of the day. It's one of those things where
I think Donald Trump Junior does a really good job
talking about this. He'll just say this is crazy or

(27:45):
wtf is going on? And that's kind of the real
response that everybody should be giving to it, because it's
as simple and basic as that. And actually it's one
of the reasons that Donald Trump won the last election
is because he kind of gave voice to that sentiment
as he was campaigning and saying this is just crazy.
You all know, this is crazy. We shouldn't have to
put up with this anymore, and we need to protect

(28:07):
our kids, and that campaign messaging really landed him in
the White House. We saw the polls that showed that
it did. It was some of its biggest campaign ads,
just showing people what Kamala Harris was saying about transgenderism,
and you know, helping illegal aliens in prison get sex
changes like this type of rhetoric is it's insane, and

(28:28):
most people don't agree with it. So I think that,
you know, we need to believe our we need to
believe what we're seeing, and we need to give voice
to that. And the Trumps, frankly, have been doing a
really good job of messaging on that. So they've been
very effective. And now Trump is president and he's been
enacting a lot of different executive orders fighting back on

(28:49):
this ideology. So I'm really interested in seeing what comes
next because you know, one one big question I have
for Caroline Levitt at this upcoming briefing is, look, we've
seen numerous trans identifying shooters targeting Christian kids. Is the
FBI going to start investigating this sphere of trans identifying
shooters targeting Christian kids? Is there going to be a

(29:09):
trans terrorism category? What are we going to see in
this area? Because it's time to stop pretending like this
isn't a pattern. And frankly, during the Biden administration, when
the Covenant Christian shooter targeted kids in Nashville, what we
saw there was the FBI hiding the manifesto they wouldn't
release it. They didn't want to tell everyone that this

(29:30):
shooter was trans and hated Jus and hated Christians and
was a deeply troubled, mentally ill figure. And we had
to actually rely on media outlets like Daily Wire to
show people what was actually going on. So I'm hoping
for more transparency here, for heavier investigations and more Well.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I appreciate that you have been on this story and
others like the Covenant School shooting story, and I just
would remind everybody all of the rationales for they can't
share the Covenant shooting manifesto were either just guesses or
low depending on who you're talking about, because there was
no reason they couldn't have shared that manifesto. It was
pure suppression, pure politics. Mary Margaret Olahan of The Daily Wire,

(30:08):
I know you got to go run in and do
a whole West Wing briefing thing here, So good luck
to you on that, and please come back and talk
to us again soon.

Speaker 8 (30:15):
Thanks so much for having me guys anytime.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
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Speaker 3 (32:05):
Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you
all being with us. We have some follow up on
yesterday's horrific shooting to bring to you. We just want
to make sure we're following a story closely, give you
all the details and also, yes, of course, this becomes
an issue of politics because the Democrats have rushed to

(32:26):
blame gun control, have rushed to mock prayer, and of
course to make sure that nobody thinks this has anything
to do with a trans arrangement syndrome situation that they're
very clear on that one, and I wanted to spend
some time on what is true here and what is

(32:47):
really going on with all of this. But I would
first say, Clay, fortunately, my assessment that the news we
were hearing out of the hospitals was indicative of most,
if not all, of the There were I believe adults
and children admitted for wounds from the mass shooting, and
there has been confirmation that they all made it, So

(33:10):
that is a blessing. And I would note a lot
of you were praying, I know you we were praying
here on this show while we were waiting for more
news of four who were in critical condition. Those are
the ones we were, of course most concerned about, and
the others who were stable. But they're all going home
to their families. That has been confirmed. You know, we

(33:31):
did lose we did lose two children to the horrific
terror attack trans terror attack in Minneapolis, but we also
have to take the good news where it comes and
how we can, and the good news is that those
who are admitted to the hospital wounds all made it,
and you know, their families are clearly overjoyed. At that news.

(33:56):
Despite all the tragedy and the horror of what happened,
there can be some light in the darkness. So I
wanted to note that because we were discussing that and
and that was an important update that you should all know. Also,
there are stories of the bravery and the love for
one another from the students from some of these teachers.

(34:18):
Here is a a fifth grader who says that his
friend saved him from this shooter play Cup one.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
It was like right beside me. I was like two
seats away from this gane glass windows, so they were like,
the shots were like right next to me.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm scary. Yeah, he went under the after that.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Yeah, I think I got like gunpowder on my neck.

Speaker 10 (34:44):
Yeah. When you heard the shots, what went through your head?

Speaker 9 (34:47):
I was like the first one, I was like, what
is that? I thought it was just something that I
heard it again, I just ran under the pew and
then I covered my head. My friend Victor like saved
me though, because he laid on top of me. But
he got hit. Your friend laid on top of you, yeah,
and he got hit.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is this something that you've practiced before?

Speaker 9 (35:10):
Yeah, we we've practiced it like every month or I
don't know, but yeah, we've we've never practiced it in
the in the church, though.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
His friend Clay covered him with his own body during
the shooting.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, look there, this is what I like to do
when awful things happened. I like to talk about the
people who did the right thing, and who were brave
and who were courageous, and who made the choice to
do everything that is, uh what you would hope would happen.

(35:47):
There's always people who run towards the sound of gunfire
and do whatever they can to protect innocent people, and
I think their stories oftentimes get lost because we focus
too much on the killer, meaning one of the reasons
I try to avoid. Sometimes people don't like it. Somebody
send an email like why don't you been named the killer?
As often because the data reflects that a lot of people,

(36:10):
in their sick minds are doing this to try to
be famous. That's what the Columnbne guys did. They basically
have created an entire copycat arena of school shooters who
all want to be famous. They want their names to
echo in infamy. And I would rather tell the story
as these kids' stories come out. I would rather share

(36:32):
stories of bravery and courage and yes, sometimes mournful loss
of the victims than give the person who is Frankly,
I think evil and certainly motivated by a desire to
have their evil acts not only create infamy for themselves,
but motivate others to engage in acts of evil. And

(36:56):
so I think for all people of good conscience, it's
important to shine a bright light on positivity, good courage
overcoming evil, as it does every single day. So within
that context, I do think it's important to examine why
this is happening. What has occurred that in Nashville, Tennessee,

(37:19):
my hometown, a trans person would take a gun in
and try to kill innocent kids at a school that
she attended, and at a trans man would take a
gun into the school that he attended and try to
kill Christians. And I want to play a couple of
these cuts, buck, because I think they're important. You all
out there listening to us right now are quite well

(37:42):
informed on this story. But I always think it's important
for you to think about what would you know if
you were just not listening to this show. And maybe
you're not on social media and you're not following people
like Mary Margaret Olahan, who we just talked with. You're
not following Buck, You're not following me. You are just
kind of out there in legacy media land. What would

(38:04):
you hear? I want to play a couple of these cuts.
This is ABC News. ABC News just had to pay
sixteen million dollars to settle a lawsuit with President Trump
over Joan Stepanopolis calling him a rapist inaccurately on television
multiple times during an interview with Nancy Mays. This is
to me, not an error. This is I want to

(38:25):
get this guy's name. Aaron Katterski reporting about the Minnesota shooter. Now,
remember the Minnesota shooter wrote on his gun, kill President Trump,
Kill President Trump. He is the furthest thing from a
Trump supporter. You could be imagine you didn't know that,
you hadn't seen that photo, You didn't have this information.

(38:48):
This is what ABC News viewers heard last night, and
there are millions of them in the report about this shooting.

Speaker 11 (38:55):
Listen, Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to
leave what least called a video manifesto that they're now
going through to try and establish motive. We've also been
going through it and can tell you. There are crude
diagrams of the church. There are also photos of the weapons,
and they include all sorts of writings, the names of

(39:18):
past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President
Trump written on the guns. There are also racial slurs,
nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual
who carried out this mass shooting on the first week
of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay, how do you not say if your goal is
to inform the public about the facts of a case,
how do you leave out that it was written kill
President Trump. It ad President Trump's name on the gun. Well,
if you're watching that, you could think, oh, that must
be a diehard Trump supporter. Oh this is one of
those crazy Trump supporters. He took a gun to a

(40:00):
cool and he shot up the place. I do think
that this is incredibly important and also, Buck, I wanted
to play this, and I know the news reports are
using the person's name. This is not us. But in
order to play this audio, I think it's important for
you to hear what they're saying. Jake Tapper on CNN,
they are continuing to be concerned about using the right

(40:20):
pronoun for a terrorist killer. This is what you would
have heard if you were watching CNN yesterday during their
coverage Cut five.

Speaker 12 (40:29):
Minneapolis start reviewing this as another piece of the puzzle
as to who the shooter was. Minneapolis start Rebune says,
according to court records, because there's been some confusion about
what the shooter's name was, Yes, Robin Westman's mother applied
to change your child's name in twenty nineteen. It was
at one point Robert Paul Westman. But since she identifies
as a female and wants her name to reflect that

(40:51):
identification was underage, it's now Robin Westman.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I mean, this is a mass delusion. When you have
a killer terrorist and on live television you are worried
about using the correct pronoun of a trans terrorist. It's indefensible.
It's indefensible.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
It's Cowardice Tapper, I'm not surprised he's always maneuvering within
the corporate layers at CNN, because it's not the audience
that he works for. It's the bosses writing the checks
that he tries to cater to. And with that in mind,
you have to remember that some of these media institutions,
certainly at CNN, there are people who are keeping score

(41:31):
on pronoun usage. Maybe they're doing it quietly, Clay, but
they tend to work in hr other places in the
building as well, and they will remember if you use
the wrong pronoun, even for a child murdering psychopath like
this guy was, they will remember that you don't bend
the knee, and they will try to exact revenge retribution

(41:53):
on you career wise later on. I still see people.
I just got an email a few days ago from
somebody about an unrelated matter to UH to media, but
a profession, you know, an email with somebody else going
to be work doing work for me, with pronouns in
this in the signature. Yeah, why why do you? I

(42:14):
want to ask this person. I mean, I'll be honest,
I want to ask why why do you have pronouns
in your in your email signature? Do you think I
don't know? You're clearly a woman. Why are you telling
me that you're a woman in your email signature? Like
I I'm I'm no longer just passive about this. It's
a bit like the mask thing. By the way, I
know you're gonna say, Buck, that's a crazy turn. It's
really not. With COVID Initially it was just just to

(42:35):
do it because because it'll do something and it'll make
people feel better. And then we said, ah, I mean,
I guess like some places, maybe I'll put this on
so you don't freak out. And then it was you
better do it or else I'll lock you up. You
better do this, or else I'll ban you from public
access to bars and restaurants and everything else. You're buildings
where you work. That's the same thing with a pronoun thing.

(42:57):
It starts out it's, oh, it's just a courtesy, and
then once they get a critical mass, it's do this
or you lose your job. So don't ever forget. The
slippery slope is real. Slippery Slope is almost undefeated, and
the slippery slope with his trans maadness stuff is absolutely
real and established. And finally it has started to move
in the other direction where yeah, you know, I'm sick

(43:20):
of saying it too. Of course you treat trans people
with kindness. They just treat them like human beings because
they are human beings. But you know, Clay, if I
walked around telling everybody you have to call me Emperor
Lord of the Universe, Sexton, I'm sorry people don't have
to do that. That doesn't make them a bad person,
because I'm not Emperor Lord of the universe, Sexton. And
just because somebody wants to demand something from you, it

(43:42):
doesn't mean they can say, because of courtesy, you have
to go along with it. Never mind, as Trump says,
the seven foot guys were like, I want to play
women's basketball now.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
No, No, why you don't get.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
To Why should you get to pick your pronouns anymore
than you get to pick your adjectives. Let me tell
you something, my stunts. Some of you people call me
some pretty tough things on social media. Some people are
even maybe even a little bit mean. I don't get
to say, hey, sorry, my preferred adjectives are handsome, brilliant,

(44:17):
Like I don't get to tell you how you define mell.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
What if somebody Clay, What if you were sitting down
with an interview and so we'll take this in the
sports world for a second. You sat down with somebody
who is, you know, an NFL player, and he's like,
I would prefer that you refer to me as Heisman
Trophy winner, so and so yeah, and you look at
him and you go, but you didn't win a Heisman trophy. Yeah,
are you being discourteous or are you just not living
in a delusion?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I think again, reasonable people have to stand up and
say we're not going to play this game anymore. And
even beyond that, how do the Democrats back out of this?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
By the way, how does that? Because I think they're stuck.
I think this is the problem they've run into. The
They're just waiting until they have enough power again to
ram it all down our throats. Again, that's the game.
The game is not to actually retreat. I'll give you
my answer. I think gay people need to say we're
not a part of this group anymore. And I know

(45:14):
we got a lot of gay people out there listening
to us right now, and I know some of you
have felt this for some time. There is a pretty
big difference between saying, hey, I'm attracted to the same
sex and hey, I am a different gender than what
all of us know to be true.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'll even say, back in the day, back in we
had people transvestite, right like you dressed up potentially as
someone you weren't. You didn't claim, you didn't claim that
you were actually that. And I think a lot of
gay people frankly are looking around and saying like, hey,

(45:53):
you know, I'm fine with the l's, the g's, the b's.
This hole is that this is the Dave chappelle'skat where
he got a lot of grief from the last I
think I think that to you answer your question, I
think that gay people have to start saying, hey, this
is not really our struggle. Our struggle was, Hey, we
want to be able to have basic human rights. We

(46:13):
want to be able to live as we believe we
should be able to live. But you don't have to
have surgery to try to artificially create yourself if you
are gay. And I think a lot of gay people
just need to say there's a difference here. This whole
identity politics has created, pardon the pun, a lot of
very strange bedfellows, right. A lot of black people out

(46:36):
there are actually very conservative and go to church all
the time, and they're looking around and they're like, this
trans thing is crazy. I don't think dudes should be
able to win women's championships. Why am I in the
same party as them? I think identity politics has to
explode and all the individuals have to make rational decisions,
regardless of your race, your gender, or your ethnicity, and

(46:59):
you have to be willing to speak truth. And a
man is not a woman and a woman is not
a man. And if they can get you to lie
about that, they can get you to lie about anything.
And they took advantage of kindness, particularly of women. I'm sorry.
Women are kinder in general than men. Notice men, there
is no Dylan mulvaney. There's no man. There's no woman

(47:20):
who used to be a man that men are like,
this is the man of the year. We just don't
do it. Women got taken advantage of I think women
and gay people need to say this is not right.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
We're done with it.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
That's my answer.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
So gold has been valuable for a long time. Think
about history. Think about what is the most basic unit
of money for thousands of years that people will consider that.
Oh well, gold, Gold has always been valid. If you
have gold coins, people will trade those for stuff because
gold is good and valuable. Now, look at the last
ten years, ten years. I just put this into an

(47:55):
a into AI to give me a sense of what
the numbers are. Gold has had about hundred and eighty
eight percent return over the last ten years. That's pretty good.
Isn't it. In fact, over just the last year, gold
has gone up about forty percent, So this is pretty straightforward,
my friends. The thesis here is gold is valuable. Gold
over time increases in value, and you should have some

(48:16):
gold as part of your portfolio. Now, I understand Trump's
doing amazing things with the economy. It's very easy to
kind of rest on Trump's laurels here and say, well,
we're gonna look at the trade deals and look at
all these things. Yeah, that's great. Trump's only got a
few years in office, and I'm trying to get you
prepared for your finances and your future for ten, fifteen,
twenty years from now, and gold as a part of

(48:38):
that plan just makes sense. A part of the plant,
it's not the whole planet's a part of the plant.
It's a way to balance your portfolio and to protect
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Speaker 3 (49:58):
Clay, have you heard of the Rio rese.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, It does,
but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Can he give us some inside intel?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

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(51:36):
informed decision. One more time, Text my name Buck to
ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Welcome back in everybody,
to Clay and Buck. We are joined now by Lieutenant
Governor Winsome Earl Sears, the first woman elected governor, first
black woman and female veteran to hold statewide office in Virginia.
A fantastic patriot who is doing wonderful things in the

(51:59):
great state Virginia, which is a place I've spent a
tremendous amount of time actually over the years, Oh Chennant Governor,
appreciate you being with us.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Well.

Speaker 13 (52:08):
Hello, and thank you for having me. Now, I do
have to correct you on one thing. I'm not yet
the first female governor. I'm the first female lieutenant governor.
That's a good thing too.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Oh sorry, Well, yes, but you're going to be the
first female governor, right, tell us about it?

Speaker 13 (52:26):
Well, there, that is yes, And it's why because we
have the common sense ideas. What do I mean? Well,
it's a good questions that I think I just did. Well.
It's because again, we have been able to present an
economy to the people of Virginia and they love it.
They love that we've created so many jobs. You know,
two hundred and seventy six thousand people working that weren't

(52:48):
before we came in the office. We also have over
two hundred and fifty thousand job opening and then we've
created on top of that, fifteen thousand plus new business
artists never existed. How can you do that? Because you
get rid of barriers, you get rid of regulations, and
you become people who want Virginia to succeed. So my

(53:10):
opponent says, now she's running on our successes. Wait, you're
a Democratic running on the successes that we created. You're
not going to keep them. If you win, which she won't.
But if she were to win, she would dismantle and
destroy everything that we've created. So she's got the problem,
not me. We've been doing the work, Abigail, where have
you been?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
We're talking to win some seers. Lieutenant governor of Virginia
who hopes and should be the next governor. I saw
some of these, some of these statements from Abigail Spanberger,
who is the Democrat nominee on men and women's sports,
and she dodged the question like she was neo and

(53:51):
the matrix. I mean, she is doing everything she can
do to avoid saying what is very easy for everybody,
ninety plus percent I think of actual sports, even two
thirds of Democrats. Hey, men have no business in women's sports.
Now I saw your ad. I loved it. You're nailing
her on this, But isn't it about just how out
of touch she is with Virginia that she can't speak

(54:13):
the truth on this.

Speaker 13 (54:15):
Well, everything about her is out of touch and none
of it makes any sense. You know, here are the
parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women, to
honor women. And then we have, for examples of Auden
County school Board who have disciplined the two young men
because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress in front

(54:37):
of a female, and for that, they are now labeled
sexual in their school records, sexual harassers. But this is
what their parents have been raising them to be to
respect women. So you have now school boards who are
against parents, and Abigail Stanberger supports that because she voted
for men of biological men in women's sports. She voted

(55:02):
for biological men having to be able to undress in
locker rooms with our young girls. She voted for all
this nonsense. And that's crazy because she's got three girls.
Is that what you want for your girl children? Parents
don't want that. I wouldn't want that. She needs to

(55:22):
come forward and defend defend her votes. She voted that way.
Virginia doesn't want that, and that's why I'm asking Virginia
for your vote this coming November so we can continue
with common sense and not policies that tear us away
from our children.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Lieutenant Governor wins some seeris with us right now. This
story just broke on OutKick and it goes directly into
the state of Virginia. And I'm betting that Abigail Spanberger
is going to be dodging it. In addition to Roanoke
women swimmers and Louden County, as you mentioned, in twenty
twenty two, Virginia Tech female swimmers protested Leah Thomas, who

(56:03):
was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for
the University of Pennsylvania women's swim team. They reached out
to ESPN begged for ESPN to tell the story of
their protest. ESPN refused to cover it. So it's not
just Abigail Spanberger. It's also there have been a lot
of legacy media outlets that have refused to speak truth here,

(56:26):
and now they're trying to run cover for your opponent.
I think this is really significant. I know it matters
a great deal to our audience. But how protected is
the legacy media trying to keep your opponents so she
doesn't have to answer questions about her failures on this issue.

Speaker 13 (56:44):
Oh so they started a long time ago by not
even asking any questions of me. They would just pretend
I didn't exist. I mean I would walk by them
and they would not say a word. They would have
microphones in everybody else's face, and it was as if
I didn't exist.

Speaker 10 (56:58):
I mean, I have been.

Speaker 13 (56:59):
The headliner, the keynote speaker at events. You know, I'm
a United States Marine Corps veteran, and I would be
at a Veterans Affairs honoring veterans events and they would
not even say that I was there, even though I
was a keynote speaker, never even said I was in
the audience, never even put my picture in, but always

(57:21):
talked about everybody else around me. So they've been dismissing
me for some time now because they saw me coming
and they knew that she would be in trouble, Abigail Spamberg,
and they want her to win. And you know, here's
a problem with that. I grew up partly in Jamaica,
which at the time was suffering from socialist policies, and

(57:42):
the media put their finger on the scale for other
people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we
had because socialism, you know, you can't ever do it
right and put Jamaica's economy in a tail spin. And
I can't believe that that's the same thing I'm seeing here.
But we're going to win because you know, you can't

(58:03):
hold righteousness down, and when you're on the right side
of an issue where common sense is common sense, and
where I even have now Democrats who are coming up
to me and saying, I'm a Democrat, but I'm going
to vote for you because I don't want my girl
children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle boys.
I mean, think about we're creating sexual trauma.

Speaker 10 (58:24):
Sexual Do we not have.

Speaker 13 (58:26):
Enough trauma in the world.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No, it's not crasious, Lieutenant Governor's heares. I want to
ask if you do become the governor, and we're obviously
rooting for you, pushing for you, and hopeful that this
is going to happen. Virginia is such a great state.
The northern part of your state. Some of the politics
they are not my favorite. I'm just saying the right
when you get in the edge of DC, you got

(58:49):
some people that well you need to reach out to
them and convince them of the error of you know,
Arlington's ways. But Virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state.
Actually have family that's from Virginia and still lives there.
I want to know what you're going to do if
you become the governor. What will you continue on from
the very successful tenure of Governor young Kin and what

(59:10):
would be some of the things that the great residents
of the Commonwealth would be able to look forward to.

Speaker 13 (59:16):
So one of the things I'm going to do, unlike
my opponent, is I'm going to continue to keep Virginia safe.
I'm going to support our law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel.
We're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity.
We're not going to defund them. You know who will
my opponent, Abigail Spamberger, because she has said and she
has taken money from wait for it, to defund the

(59:37):
police pack. You can't take She's taken thousands from them.
So you know, it's not like we don't know what
she's going to do. So we need our police, right,
we need everybody there because I can't even talk about
safety and security. I can't talk about jobs being created,
taxes being low if we're not safe and secure. Right,

(59:58):
So that's the first thing I'm going to do. Probably
saw yesterday where she came out and said she was
one of the first things, first things that she was
going to do is precisely get rid of our safety
and security because she's going to stop all these ic
detainers where we have now found four thousand criminal illegal
aliens in Virginia, including the number three top head of

(01:00:22):
MS thirteen, and they are in various states of incarceration
and deportation.

Speaker 10 (01:00:28):
She's going to stop that.

Speaker 13 (01:00:30):
I mean, well, who is this woman? Where did we
get her from? Well, she can't be governor. The next
thing people want is that they want their taxes back
in their pockets. And we've restored what nine billion dollars
back into the pockets of Virginia's taxpayers. We have run
a ten billion dollar surplus for each of the for
the entire time that we've been in office. And we're

(01:00:53):
going to keep creating jobs. We're going to keep getting
rid of regulations. We're gonna have the energy that they need.
We're going to have shovel ready sits. We're going to
keep their inventories and their employees safe. Jobs will flood in,
and well you will see. We will continue our great
economic successes, whereas my opponent is going to tax them
to death. She's going to put regulations back on them,

(01:01:15):
and she's going to force every single employee, even if
they don't want to, to join a union. That for me,
is an issue of liberty, so people know what they're
gonna get with me. It's all common sense, money in
your pocket, jobs and safety. There you go. She doesn't
know how to do this. She was never there when
we were creating any of this good stuff. She was

(01:01:37):
in Congress taking stupid votes against us, and now she's
trying to backtrack, but she's not even back She's like
plucks Thetawi.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Phil.

Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
We haven't seen her in a while. Where have you been, Abigail?
You can't lead from behind.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Lieutenant Governor Sears appreciate you very much, and please come
back and talk to us, either right before your victory
or right after. You can choose.

Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
When some Forgovernor, please go to my website win some
Forgovernor dot com and help me.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're rolling
through the Thursday edition of the program. A bunch of
comments rolling in. Let me read some of the emails. Tristan, Hey, guys,
a longtime listener, first time reaching out. I'm forty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Gay mail.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I agree one hundred percent that I do not identify
with this current LGBTQ alphabet community. I'm a gay man.
I don't agree at all with any of the trans issues,
except for that they should be treated like human beings.
But I'm not going to be holding onto their delusion
one hundred percent agree. Another email, just heard you on

(01:04:24):
the radio talking about how gay men and women should
push back, not just gay meen. I think Buck asked
a question. I think it's a really good question. How
do we break sort of the national fever of delusion
as it pertains to the trans related issues? And I said,
we have to break identity politics overall, so people stop

(01:04:46):
thinking about this as a group issue and just look
at it individually, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
whatever you want to be. But I said, the gay
community breaking away from the alphabet mafia and saying, hey,
this is not reflective of us. So just to be clear,
you said it perfectly. I appreciate that this isn't our fight.

(01:05:08):
Trans is not our fight. I'm a gay man. God
maybe that God does not make mistakes. Okay, Lisa in Florida,
Now this maybe tough.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Lisa.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
You say your son is trans, So how old is
he now?

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Forty? But when this started like seventeen?

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
This is and obviously, look there are the vast majority
of trans kids out there are not going to turn
into school shooters, right, so we're not saying this is
directly connected. But when did your kid start to receive treatment.

Speaker 10 (01:05:48):
A treatment for wanting to become trans?

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:05:54):
Yeah, so well the school jumped in there and started
doing the counseling right there, the college he was going to,
and it only takes they take two psychiatrists to get
it approved, and both of them have said, oh sure,
so seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, and then in the twenties, we
you know, changed first name, last name, not we, not me,
And the next thing I know, this is who I am,

(01:06:15):
and you have to call me this, which I have
to this day not and still respected. You know, the boundaries.
That's your life if that's what you want to do, okay.
But at the same time, in his curtains so radical
and I got this whole schmill too, even from him.
Would you rather have a good child or a transgiender?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
The horrible blackmail line, emotional blackmail line they use against
parents all across the country. Lisa, do you feel like
do you feel like the college friends if you will
your son? Is that your belief or I mean, how
much of a role do you think they played that was.

Speaker 10 (01:06:52):
If you could have seen the counselor that was in
there with me, you know, and she's trying to tell me, well,
she says, she says, I'm like, no, she is not,
because I've seen her go from the bedroom to the
bathroom and drop the towel, so parts are still where
they are. But at the same time, I told your screener,
who's very compassionate, I told my husband last night because
it has gotten so far out of hand and it's

(01:07:13):
so radical and his whole personality and I mean, this
is a kid that grew up in you know, Christian
church and enjoyed it and loved it. Not anymore. And
I don't know how to describe the feeling. But I
told my husband last.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Night, I said, has your son had the full Lisa
like the surgeries?

Speaker 10 (01:07:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
What about drug treatment, the hormones all those things?

Speaker 10 (01:07:40):
Oh my goodness, Yes, we've got boobs everything.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yes, So how has that changed his behavior? And I
guess that's part one part two. What would you want
other parents out there who might be dealing with this
to know from your perspective.

Speaker 10 (01:07:59):
Well, it's immediately started changing the personality. And then actually
he even admitted it and it also started changing just
help issues overall. But the other thing, don't buy into
that because it gets so far fetched and so deep
into it. I told my husband last night, I don't
know if he would Actually, you've gotten so bitter and
they feed into it and make it worse. I don't

(01:08:20):
know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this.
I can't tell you that. And it's horrible. If this
is going to sound I don't know how to say this,
and it's just going to sound horrible. But if I
thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide
and he would still go to heaven. I would be
better living with that than knowing that he went out

(01:08:42):
and killed children or anybody for that matter. I don't
even know if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
No, I love, I appreciate life.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I appreciate you calling in and sharing this because I
think what it goes to is and thank you so much,
and certainly I think a lot of people are going
to pray for you. But I think what it goes to,
Buck is the emotional blackmail that this puts families through,
that is rooted in a lie. And I just I'm sorry.

(01:09:12):
I don't think that any of these kids are getting better, right,
That you're not getting a better son or daughter than
you already had, And it's putting families through the ringer, right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I imagine if you sat down with somebody Clay, who
was a serious drug addict and their response to you
was either tell me the drugs are good, or I
might commit suicide. That's what's going on here. There's no
choice for these parents.

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