BONUS: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 2 2025

Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton!  If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.

 

Here’s a sample episode recapping four Tuesday takeaways. Give the guys a listen and then follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

 

Code Switching

 

Clay and Buck dive into the political and cultural landscape shaping the first fall of the Trump 2.0 presidency, highlighting the ongoing resistance from federal judges against the administration’s policies. The hosts criticize what they describe as partisan judicial activism, particularly rulings that attempt to block President Trump’s constitutional authority—such as deploying the National Guard in Los Angeles during immigration-related unrest. They emphasize how these decisions are often overturned by higher courts, including the Supreme Court, reinforcing Trump’s legal standing.

 

The show also covers a controversial case involving 76 unaccompanied Guatemalan children who were blocked from being reunited with their families in Guatemala by a federal judge. Clay and Buck frame this as an example of how judicial overreach is obstructing humanitarian efforts and immigration reform under Trump 2.0.

 

Call in the Guard!

 

A deep dive into the escalating crisis of urban crime in America, with a sharp focus on cities like Chicago, Washington D.C., and Memphis. They highlight the Trump administration’s proactive stance on law and order, praising President Trump’s efforts to reduce violent crime and carjackings while exposing the political resistance from Democrat leaders who, they argue, are failing to protect their constituents.

 

The conversation centers around the staggering statistic that 50 people were shot in Chicago over Labor Day weekend, prompting Clay and Buck to question why Democratic officials like Mayor Brandon Johnson oppose federal assistance, including National Guard deployment, to restore safety. They contrast Johnson’s slogan-heavy rhetoric with more pragmatic voices like Morning Joe’s Joe Scarborough, who surprisingly called for bipartisan cooperation with Trump to address crime in Illinois.

 

The hosts also revisit the controversial remarks of Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, who suggested that increased policing would lead to too many arrests of black and brown individuals. Clay and Buck challenge this logic, emphasizing that the real victims of unchecked crime are often minorities living in high-crime neighborhoods. They argue that the true measure of safety is whether women and children can walk or jog freely in their communities without fear.

 

Commie Mamdani

 

The New York City mayoral race, scrutinizing the candidacy of Zohran Mamdani, a self-described democratic socialist. They dissect the New York Times’ attempt to downplay his ideology and warn that his proposed policies—like government-run grocery stores—could devastate the city’s economy and infrastructure. The hosts debate whether Mamdani is a true ideologue or simply an inexperienced politician who may struggle to implement his radical agenda.

 

The segment also includes reflections on past NYC mayors like Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg, and Bill de Blasio, comparing their leadership styles and impact on crime. Clay and Buck argue that Bloomberg’s business acumen and Giuliani’s law enforcement background made them effective leaders, while de Blasio’s progressive policies contributed to the city’s decline.

 

Doesn't Have to be This Way

 

Clay and Buck scrutinize Chicago’s violent crime epidemic, where Governor JB Pritzker dodges questions about the city’s safety following a weekend of 54 shootings and 7 deaths. Clay and Buck argue that President Trump’s deployment of the National Guard in Washington D.C. has proven effective, and they challenge Democrats to explain their resistance to similar measures in cities like Memphis, St. Louis, and New Orleans.

 

The hosts dissect Mayor Brandon Johnson’s inflammatory rhetoric, including his call for citizens to “defend the land” against Trump’s law enforcement efforts. Clay and Buck criticize this as dangerous and historically inaccurate, noting that Chicago was not built by slaves or indigenous people, and that invoking such narratives undermines real solutions to crime. They emphasize the psychological deterrent effect of visible law enforcement and the success of plainclothes policing units in cities like New York.

 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are rolling with the Tuesday edition of the program.
We hope all of you had fantastic Labor Day weekends.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I did. I think Buck did as well.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I met a lot of you at the Alabama Florida
State game.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
We've been doing this show for so long.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Buck, I remember when Alabama was actually good at football.
I actually do too, which tells you something. Florida State
Seminoles get the big win there. It was a lot
of fun meeting many of you. So I'm back on
the road for college football season a lot again. But
we begin now that we are officially into fall, even

(00:42):
though it doesn't feel like fall in most of the country.
Kids officially back in schools most places everywhere.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
And the question becomes.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
What will the first fall of Trump two point zero
look like? And well, the answer or is the resistance
is going to be the same as it was in
the spring, in the summer, in the winter of Trump
two point zero, and that is federal district court judges
are going too wrongly decide the law and just try

(01:17):
to throw up roadblocks. And we'll get into this a
little bit, but it kind of surprises me how seriously
the media still treats all of these federal court decisions.
They come out and they say, oh, my goodness, Trump
doesn't have the authority to insert whatever issue is currently
being litigated. And then it goes to the circuit court,

(01:40):
and the Circuit Court generally says, yes, he does, and
so far the Supreme Court always says he does. So
you have a lot of left wing politicians that are
wearing judicial robes, and they have decided that they're going
to do everything they can to try to slow down
the momentum of Trump to point oh, and I just

(02:02):
don't really get that worked up about it at this
point in time. We told you that this is what's
going to occur you should expect for the next three
plus years. This is primarily what they're going to do.
And this is why, no matter how good of a
term Trump has, the things that need to be fixed
in this country are multi term, multi president in nature,

(02:25):
no matter how good Trump two point zero is. But
I do think we should address it as we usually do.
Some important notes here. One is that the judge who
came forward and found that Trump it was unlawful for
the president to deploy the National Guard in Los Angeles, Yeah,
we'll see about that. It also has already happened, so

(02:46):
there's really no sanctions or anything other than this is
a slapdown or meant to be a slapdown of Trump.
I think what got even more attention over the weekend
clay is and this is from one of the administration spokespersons,
Tricia McLaughlin, that there was an effort to take seventy

(03:07):
six unaccompanied Guatemalan children. Now understand, these are kids who
were brought into the country or in some cases found
at the border of this country, and this was happening
for a while. Part of the human trafficking that was
going on here where they were. The term they would
use is recycling kids. And this is what they were
saying at the border border patrol that kids were being

(03:30):
used as pawns by people to get into the country
because if you had a child with you and claim
the child was a family member or a dependent, you
could not be deported Clay. So it was this end
run onto US soil essentially. And so there are all
these kids and this was part of the scam, the
illegal immigrant scam is being run. It's not the kids fault. Obviously,

(03:52):
there are children seventy six of them. The administration was
trying to reunite, and this is from Stephen Miller, an
other White House officials with their parents in Guatemala, and
a judge, Judge Sparkle Suk Nannapp has blocked that flight
from the reunification of Guatemalan children with their families in

(04:16):
their actual country of nationality. Because Clay, anything Trump does.
Trump taking kids who don't have their parents and reuniting
them with their parents is bad. Because Democrats hate Trump,
they don't ever go beyond the actual realities or rather
they don't get into the actual realities of what he's done.
So that's going on, and just one other thing got

(04:37):
throw in the mix because we're gonna talk also about
law enforcement peace. I don't want to take away from
the judge discussion, but fifty people shot over the weekend
in Chicago. Yeah, five zero people shot, eight fatally.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Maybe time to have that discussion too. But on the judges, Clay,
this is just the only real resistance there is to Trump.
We said this, and we're being proven right about it
more and more. It is a real question where was
resistance going to come from. We saw the protest resistance
at the inauguration, and we came on and we told

(05:11):
you we just kind of felt sorry for them. There's
just no energy there. There still is no energy there.
They can't even pay people to show up in protest
and big numbers, so the street protest as the resistance
to Trump two point zero is non existent politically. I
want to play this cut because Jasmine Crockett, from I

(05:33):
believe the Houston area of Texas, maybe the Dallas area
of Texas, is supposed to be one of the top
Trump critics, and I think you see in her when
I play this cut. There is no real resistance from
the Democrat Party because they are so bereft of ideas
and the ideas they do have or just flat out

(05:55):
wrong and rejected by huge majorities of the country. But
I want you to listen to this, and before I
play it, I want you to understand Jasmine Crockett's parents
did everything they could to get her the best possible education,
as well every parent should. They sent her to a
private school in Missouri that cost over thirty thousand dollars

(06:19):
a year. They sent her to Rhodes College in the
Memphis area, which is a great liberal arts school team.
Look up what the cost of Rhodes College is now.
I believe it costs over sixty thousand dollars a year
with room and board included. There, So over thirty thousand
dollars a year for her high school, over sixty thousand

(06:42):
dollars a year for her college. Yet this is how
she has She is well educated, she has gone to
elite schools. Well, she's expensively educated. There's a difference. But
she understands and knows basic grammar. And I want you
to listen to this, and she is pretending to be
dumb and sounding like she's never gone to any school

(07:05):
of any measure because she thinks that's what she needs
to do to connect with her constituents. It's an insult
to her parents. It's also an insult to all those
constituents who don't actually want to be talked to like this.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Listen, but they are crazy because they always talk about
how Christian they is. Yeah, I don't know how many
them on that side. I'm getting divorced because they getting
caught up sleeping with their coworker staff as and tins
all the things. Yeah, you ain't gotta believe me. Just
go google you'll find some of it, I'm telling you,

(07:38):
and the wives is being messy and petty. They putting
it into divorce. I'm like, ohh that's gotta be true
because your lawyer would know that they gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Lose it, all right. I mean, this is embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
There's no way to say, Hey, this is someone who
represents seven hundred thousand people in the United States. This
is one of four hundred and thirty five members of
Congress to be talking like this in public, intentionally not
be able to speak basic grammar. It's embarrassing. Does it
work for her politically though?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, that's no. You don't think so.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, it doesn't because I think she's she is, Well,
it depends on what her goal is. If she wants
to be good, That's That's what I'm getting at here, right,
What is she trying to accomplish with this? How is
she trying to position herself vis a the her voters,
and her national profile. Well, she can't ever do anything
other than represent one congressional district like this. You can't

(08:35):
get elected a statewide office in Texas talking like this.
You can't get elected President of the United States talking
about but she you can get the national media talking
about you can get a lot, you can be you know,
look at the I think the AOC model clay in
so far as now politicians are and particularly like the
younger generation of left wing politicians, view themselves as social

(08:59):
media stars for and foremost is something to keep in mind.
See you're thinking about this like as a statesman, shouldn't
she And with respect to her voters, I think she's
playing to the she's playing to the internet constituency.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
She's playing.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
But even if she's playing to the internet constituency, buck,
I don't think there's a huge demand for dumb.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think that black, white, Asian, Hispanic, real large
audiences are out there saying I want someone who is
pretending to be dumber than she is, because I think
a lot of people see through this. By the way,
Rhodes College over seventy thousand dollars a year in room
and board.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
This is where she went.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
She knows how to use is and are correctly in
sentences like you know, I'm not saying she's a Rhodes
scholar or the most brilliant person on the planet.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
But when you go to elite.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Education, institutions, they will beat grammar into your head.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
She knows how I view.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think I think you're overestimating elite institutions and their
ability to get anybody to speak properly, or think properly,
or or or even do their own These days, they
can't even get the kids that write their own essays
because of AI's. The whole thing is falling apart.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
But even going back decades, I'm not sure that proper
grammar is necessarily something that that people would get, even
at eliting. Again, I always put a lead in quotes,
and you and I both have gone to elite educational institutions,
and there were dumbasses at my school. I don't know
what to tell you. There are guys that could barely
put two words together. So no black person who goes
to GW is able to where I went, is able

(10:36):
to go to the school and not be able to
correctly use is or are in a sentence like or,
I see, I think you're I think that you're she
is You're you're saying that she's just my opinion, I
think she's I think she's trying to she's trying to
code switch and trying to appeal to different constituencies in

(10:57):
different ways as part of her growing Clay. There is
a massive vacuum on the Democrats side right now, so
big that not even Pritzker can fill it. And there
are people out there, there are people out there who
recognize that now is the time Clay. Look at AOC,
look at it. You keep thinking that these Democrats have
to be held to standards of authenticity or honesty or

(11:21):
any AOC grew up in fancy Westchester, and yet she's
presented herself as you know, Okazio Cortes from the Bronx man,
like I've been on these mean streets, you know. And
she even sometimes would speak in a more a more
sort of urban dialect. AOC would quent Bu, which I
think was the most expensive school in the country.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
In Clay.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
They love her. So I'm you know, you're you're you're
approaching this. I don't think you're seeing this like a leftist,
is what I'm trying to tell you. I think you've
got to look through the leftist lens. I think she's
building her profile. You can say that, you know, you
think it's absurd, of course, and I get that, But
I think that she views this as a code switching
and profile building at a time when Democrats are in

(12:03):
a vacuum for not just leadership, but for media attention.
I think this is look she may end up on
the view And there is an argument out here that
I think, building on your social media influencer argument, I
think that many people now who are in Congress are
auditioning for podcast and media jobs because they make one

(12:27):
hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year. So she may
have a future in media. But I want to put
this out there. I think this is true. Sorry, I mean,
but I Clay, there would have been a time when
I think that radio was a stepping stone to elected
office for podcasting, you know, audio, And now I think
that for a lot of people, elected office is a

(12:50):
stepping stone into audio, social media, profile, all that kind
of stuff. I think it has changed dramatically over the
last twenty years. I think the challenge is basically, when
you're apology Tishan, your only job is communication, and I
don't buy that communicating as if you are dumber than
you actually are. And here I'm giving credit to Jasmine Crockett.

(13:10):
I think that clearly she is pretending that she is
dumber than she is to try to speak to an audience.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I don't thinking.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Dumber though, she's not. She's she's she's sort of she's uh,
you know, she's maybe switching into a different vernacular, a
different dialect. But she's not pretending to be dumb. She's
she's pretending that this is the way that she normally
necessarily speaks and communicates, right like when Hillary Clinton Clay
would go down and be like, oh eyes so tired,

(13:39):
you know, walking Remember when Hillary did her whole Southern thing.
She's not pretending to be dumb. She's pretending to meet
Southern Now, all the Southerners listening, including you, I think,
are like that chance lady. But she's trying to ingratiate
herself with that approach to them.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I guess what I guess what I'm going to is.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think ultimately what can next with people is authenticity.
And I think most people. Now, there is a small segment.
She could probably get elected a congresswoman from that district
over and over again and not matter in the larger
four hundred and thirty five person house. But I think
in a social media sphere, the only thing that matters

(14:18):
is authenticity, and authenticity requires that you be the person
you are, and when she is code switching, that resonates
like we should play a cut of her talking in
two different vernaculars. That doesn't work because you can put
them side by side and it exposes that you are dishonest.

(14:41):
I've said this for a long time. The conversations that
I have in public and the conversations that I have
in private, there's zero difference between them, and that is
why I think that works in media. Authenticity is all
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck. It kicks
off right now. Thanks for being here with us. So,
as we know, a major push by this Trump White House,
the President himself has been on the issue of crime
in DC. We spend a lot of time on it,
and I think so far it has been a big
political winner for Donald Trump because he's doing two things simultaneously.

(16:26):
It's a brilliant Trump move. Brilliant Trump move he has.
He is putting wins up on the board while also
encouraging in essence because he pushed for it, Democrats to
defend the indefensible. So it's coming at this from two sides.
One is it's just the right thing to do. It's
a good thing to do, make people safer, bring down

(16:47):
the murder rate, bring down the carjacking rate. Yay, we
think we'd all be on board for that, right, But
two Democrats go, hey, like, so there's a lot of
murders in DC. I mean, who doesn't have this? A
lot of places don't have problem. But you know what
I mean. They're trying to suggest like no big deal,
And in the process everyone looks at them, including some Democrats,
look at them and say, what is your problem, Like,

(17:09):
we actually want fewer murders. We need to be a
party some places. It has to be which one of
us is better at achieving the desired goal, and the
murder rate should be one of them. Are Democrats? Are
Republicans better at bringing this down? It shouldn't be. Democrats
are the This is pretty good and Republicans are, No,
it is not, because it is clearly way too high

(17:31):
in DC, and it's clearly way too high in Chicago
as well. Over the weekend, fifty people shot eight faithly.
Over Labor Day weekend, five zero fifty people were shot
in the city of Chicago. Chicago is not that big.
It is two million people, about one point eight million,

(17:53):
I think, Clay is the number. New York is eight
point five million by comparison, So Chicago is is it
still larger than Houston. Houston is like its own you know,
you can like drive for an hour and a half
and still be in Houston. I think technically, so it's
a little tough to metro areas. It's still New York
LA Chicago one two three. I think Houston and Dallas

(18:15):
are four and five if I'm not mistaken again on
the metropolitan areas. But again, Houston, it's like, what is Houston. Well,
it's a very big place. So fifty people's shot at
too many people. I think we're all clear on that.
It's not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either.
This is some random no on Labor Day weekend you

(18:36):
go back. There are a lot of weekends where you
have thirty shot, forty shot. I mean, these numbers are
out of control, And it was very interesting to me
Clay this morning, sure enough on good Old MSNBC, there
was a conversation that was happening, and it was Joe Scarborough.

(18:56):
But we'll get into this reaching out in essence to
the Democrat intelligentsia, including the governor of Illinois, of course
includes in its environs the city of Chicago, saying that
it is time to partner up with Trump on the
issue of crume. This is on MSNBC Play four.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I actually think that JB.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Pritzker should do something radical.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think you should pick.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Up the phone, call the President and say, you know,
and I know, you don't have the constitutional authority to
deploy the National Guard here and to police my too.
You can do that in DC, you can't do that
in Chicago. But let's partner up. These are the most
dangerous parts of my state. We would love to figure
out how to have a partnership that's constitutional, that respects

(19:43):
the sort of balance of federalism between the federal government
and the state government, and let's work together to save lives.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
That sounds entirely reasonable, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Play It sounds like the kind of thing that somebody
who might be trying to make a make a move
to be a voice to bring the Democrats not toward
the center but towards sanity, would be making. Good Old
Morning Joe. I think he sees a laying clay he's
wrong saying the president doesn't have the authority. He's one

(20:16):
hundred percent right with everything else he said, this is
what should happen. This is to be To give her credit,
DC Mayor Muriel Bowser seems to be doing, to the
best of her ability, an attempt to work with Trump
to make Washington, DC safer. And I don't understand why

(20:36):
anyone out there would be trying to prevent the President
from making his or her city or state safer than
it otherwise would be.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And we have.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Here is Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, contrasting with
the reasonable take that we just heard that's what you
would have heard on MSNBC, voting that if you are
losing Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, how many MSNBC viewers might
be hearing somewhat same takes suddenly as part of Trump

(21:13):
two point zero. That to me is a sign that
the virulent Trump is Hitler agenda. Leave aside the fact
that we all know it's a lie. It doesn't rate anymore,
it doesn't actually motivate the viewers. Even you have Morning
Joe there, Joe Scarborough himself, who remembers a former Republican
so he can play. You want to talk about code switching,
this guy, he'll switch jerseys, He'll switch you know, whatever

(21:35):
was gonna He wrapped the Florida Gulf Coast, one of
the most beautiful places in the country. I believe I'm
not mistaken. So he would have been the thirty a congressman, right,
I mean he was yes at one point, yes, right,
I think yeah, yeah, as close as God's Country on
the Gulf of America. No less on the Gulf of America.

(21:56):
He would have been a congressman for it. But there's
that position, and then you get the more hardcore left
wing Democrat position here from Chicago Mayor Johnson. This has
cut five. Here's the other approach to Chicago player.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
No federal troops in the city of Chicago, no militarized
force in the city of Chicago. We're gonna defend our
democracy in the city of Chicago. We're gonna protect the
humanity of every single person in the city of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Uh, just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do
nothing to bring down the murder rate, nothing to address
the crime rate. I mean, somebody should just ask somebody
should ask the Mayor of Chicago, is fifty people over
the weekend shot in your city too much? Do you
view that as an urgent problem, sir? And try to

(22:52):
pin him down on this, because he would just go
back into the slogan's play. I don't understand what the
audience is for arguing we're going to stand up to
the president trying to bring more law and order to
cities that eighty one percent of Americans believe have too
much violence. Ninety nine percent of Americans believe have some

(23:15):
form of violence that's too much. I don't understand who
is out there. Again, this ties in buck with the
argument we saw from Mayor Karen Bass where she just
said the quiet part out loud.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
She said, well, we.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Can't have more police and more National Guard troops because
then too many black and brown people are gonna get arrested.
So you really have the argument being made of, well,
there's gonna be too many black and brown people arrested,
so that's why we don't want more law and order
in the city. But what about all the black and

(23:50):
brown people who are going to be victims if these
people are not arrested. That is the immediate question that's
begged and I think the vast majority of people out
there there, regardless of your background, want your kids to
be safe and want to be able to walk in
the streets and not worry about it. I've said for
a long time, to me, the test of whether a

(24:11):
neighborhood is safe is are you okay with your wife,
your girlfriend, your daughter, your granddaughter going for a jog
at dusk in a neighborhood, Like if you're if you're
a woman who is significant in your life or a
girl who's significant in your life goes outside and it's
six pm and she's like, Hey, I'm going to go

(24:33):
for a jog for thirty minutes. Are you comfortable with
her doing that? It should be the point, that should
be the case that everywhere in America we are comfortable
with that happening. But right now, tons of you listening,
you'd say, yeah, my daughter, she can't go for a job,
my sixteen year old she's training cross country, or she's

(24:55):
a soccer player and she's trying to stay in shape.
She can't go jogging if she might get out after dust.
So that is the ultimate test. I lived this test,
this reality in New York City in the in the nineties. Yep,
where it was you can't go jogging at night. That's
why the Central Park jogger case was well, it was horrific,
but also it was so in hit home for so

(25:17):
many people. It's like, you can't even go jogging in
Central Park in this city. That was the without something
horrific happening. Yes, and and then you had the uh,
you know the realities of you couldn't go to Central
Park at night. But I would say play in these
cases we're talking about, would you be comfortable driving through
these neighborhoods in a nice car and broad daylight? That's different.
That's a different the standard you're talking about a true safety.

(25:38):
I think the standard you could apply to the south
side of Chicago, or I guess it's the south in
some of the western precincts of Chicago, or you know,
you could apply to the more dangerous parts of Memphis,
New Orleans. You get on the list of these cities
is would you be willing to drain up? Would you
get in your friends Mercedes or your friends BMW or
whatever and drive through these areas, spend an hour driving

(25:59):
around and feel safe? And I think in some of
these places you would say absolutely not. Would you stop
and get gas when you talked about this, And we're
not I think the primary people who are gonna be
victims of crime. And by which I mean we're grown men,
not elderly, Like, we're.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Not in theory easy marks.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You see all those push ups that Clay did on
that video. No one's gonna mess with Clay. We're not
easy marks. I mean we're six foot, you know, decent
sized guys, right, got some weight to throw around over here.
Maybe a little too much, but you know, I could
box out if I need to. But when you were
in Saint Louis and they told you, hey, you can't
walk anywhere at this hotel, And when I was in Memphis,

(26:42):
they told me not to go stroll around at night
by myself in the downtown the night, like the main
part of downtown, the heart of the city. They straight
up told me that I'm staying in one of the
nicer areas of Memphis with my kid because he's got
an event going on. And the lady working the front
desk at the hotel at eight thirty pm was like,
are you sure you want to go outside? And I

(27:04):
was like, well, I you know, I forgot my charger.
I'm just going to go fill up my gas tank
and get a charger at the local gas station. Here.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's like, okay, be careful at eight thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean, I mean, this is where we are. To
your point, Saint Louis. I want the National Guard called
in State Guard, but obviously in many different people. I
want to call it everywhere I live in Tennessee. I
wish they would call the National Guard and deploy it
in Memphis. At your point on Saint Louis, I think
a lot of people out there who live in the

(27:38):
Saint Louis area are like, yeah, I'd like more security
Kansas City, New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore. Why would we not?
If I were the governor and a lot of you
out there are like, oh, I don't know about that, Clay.
If I were the governor, I'd be considering calling in
the National Guard to deploy in the State Guard, but
National Guard to deploy Memphis and say we're not going

(28:02):
to allow Memphis to have a murder rate that is
basically twenty x what's happening in New York City. Not
going to allow it. There's too many innocent people being killed.
I think this is a great decision all over the place. Well,
I think that on on crime and also on the
border for example. Going forward, there's going to have to
be some national level Democrat attempt to co opt these

(28:25):
issues for themselves a little bit, as in, yeah, they
have to come up with we're part of the solution,
not continue to perpetuate the problem, because these have become
huge political liabilities for them. I mean, the immigration thing,
the illegals, the ten million under Biden was clearly a
major might have been the deciding issue. Quite honestly in
this last election. I think you could argue that it

(28:46):
was meaning the single most you know, intractable, pervasive and
Democrats getting hammered on an issue. And so I think
on this, on this issue also of making cities safer.
You know, it may not change the vote in Chicago,
but it might change the vote in some places that
are purple. It might make people think in the suburbs

(29:09):
of some of these cities, you know what, I can't
vote for some lunatic Democrat again, And that's where the
political weakness lies.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'll tell you what it does. I think a lot
of black guys again, over twenty percent of them voted
Trump in twenty twenty four. I think a lot of
them look around and say this is unacceptable, and they
don't accept the Brandon Johnson argument of hey, we got
to stand up like why should we not have more safety?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Why? And look, black women too, but they have been
more committed to the Democrat Party. When you get to
the point where it's one in five, one in four
black men are voting for Trump, that's a real conversation
that's taking place now in the black community. And I
think when you look around in Chicago, you say this
is unacceptable. By the way, I am fired up. The

(29:53):
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You never hear that phrase convicts, sir, good heavens, the
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(30:16):
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Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you
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(32:09):
all of them, so please do send them in and
we'll try to get a bunch more on the air,
and that will be a very good thing. With that
in mind, mister Clay, I have to bring attention for
a moment here to the New York Times and the
way that they are trying to run interference or obfuscation

(32:32):
propaganda for Mamdani, the Kami, who is a I believe
self described as a democratic socialist. And so now we're
going to get into this game we're somebody to get
to get support and to get the left behind them.
They say I'm a democratic socialist, I'm a democratic socialist,
and we say, okay, so you're a socialist, right, And
this should be pretty straightforward because it's in the name,

(32:54):
But they play the games. This is from The New
York Times over the weekend that used both of his
appearances on Fox News last week talking about the opponent
for mam Donni, the New York Race, Cuomo to criticize
mam Donnie's left leaning views, warning that they would be
a death now for New York City. New York City
people are not socialists, mister Cuomo said, New York City

(33:17):
people are not socialist neither. Actually he is, mister mam Donni.
The New York Times rejoins he is a democratic socialist,
which means his beliefs are similar to those of socialists,
but not exactly the same. He is a member of
both the National Democratic Socialists of America and its New
York City chapter. What does the New York Times think
that it's doing here. It's funny because really, more and

(33:39):
more it's only read by left wing people or people
on the right who want to trash it, and they're
trying to tell everybody don't call him a socialist even
though he's a socialist. What do you think his term
in office would actually be like? Because the reason why
I bring it up is again, I'm frustrated that there
hasn't been a coalition of somebody to sit down with

(34:03):
Andrew Cuomo, with Curtis Leewa, and with Eric Adams and
really say, okay, get out of the race.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
One of you has to be the guy.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
And I think Eric Adams would win if everybody else
got out. I'm not sure Cuomo would win. Oh, I
think you have it backwards on this one. I think
Cuomo has a much better chance than Adams play. Adams's
numbers are absolutely like pitiful. He's in digit support. I think, well,
so I think he would I could win. I could

(34:35):
be wrong. I think that Cuomo could win. I think
that Sliwa has virtually no chance of winning. So I
don't understand what he's doing. And I understand that a
lot of you at w o R he's a Republican.
I'm not saying that I disagree with him on the policies.
I'm saying that if you look at this situation, Mom,
Donnie is such a big threat that otherwise not political

(34:59):
out I should come together from keeping going to office.
Having said that, it seems like he is saying that
he would not change very much suddenly, as he is
now trying to run for office. For instance, Jessica Tish,
who has done a really good job. It appears to
be fair to her running the NYPD, driving down crime

(35:22):
all these things. Buck, I looked it up through the
end of August and the New York City team. You
can correct me if I'm wrong on this. I believe
there were only two hundred and one murders in New
York City between so nine months, So that would put
us on pace for two seventy something like that, Ish,
because probably a little bit lower because summer tends to

(35:43):
be higher rates of crime in general. That's really good, right.
I'm not saying that I wish I wish there was
no murders all those things. I get that there's still
clay is decidedly despite all the pushback anti murderers we
have just I'm gonna stick as hard on the murder
camp as I can. But he's now saying he would
leave her in charge. I wonder how much of him

(36:08):
is going to be He says all these crazy things,
and then when push comes to shove, when he actually
gets into the office, whether he's not going to do
very much to actually implement the agenda he claimed he.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Would Imporence, does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
This is bigger, that's this is quite a gamble, right,
I mean, now you're talking about a situation. So so
I'm very clear I think on what happened through because
I was living in New York, right, So Giuliani comes
in and he's wiat or you know, he cleans up
the town, he fixes it, he gets it on the

(36:43):
right course. NYPD CompStat it all. It all comes together
and and now you have this city that is that
is incredibly on the rise and is a a crime
reduction story, not just for the country. By the way,
it became a globe in New York City has connections
to police departments all over the world. This has been

(37:04):
a long standing practice. But they have very close relationships
with other inn They do information sharing. I was a
part of this Intel Division now it's Intel Bureau. It's
actually gotten bigger since I left. And Jesse Tish, who's
now the commissioner, was one of one of my peers.
We didn't work in the same office, but on the
same general issue at the time. And because she's only
a couple I think she's your age, Clay. She's only

(37:25):
a couple of years old in me. And the NYPD
story is that they managed to fix all this stuff.
And then Bloomberg comes in and says, Okay, look, I'm
a Democrat, but I also like safety and investment and
clean streets, and so I'm gonna keep doing the smart things.
Be does Bloomberg say what you will. He's a smart guy.
I disagree with him on SODA's and gun control, but

(37:48):
he's a smart guy. Deblasio comes in and he's like,
we've had way too much prosperity, safety and growth. It's
time for it's time to start just turning the wheels
of communist them from inside the system. And it's you know,
if he inherited a great situation, so it took a while.
It's like Gavin Newsom in California takes a while to

(38:08):
ruin these places, right. You know, the Bolshoy was still
like the best ballet in the world in the seventies
in the Soviet Union because they had you know, one
hundred and fifty years of like him or one hundred
years of you know, it takes a while to ruin
some of these things. And I'm just you know, in
some of the greatest writers of the twentieth century were
Soviet writers, not because of the Soviet Union as like

(38:30):
a font of creative energy, but because Russia and its history. Okay,
so he comes and then and then you get to
Mayor Eric Adams play, and then the wheels of communism
because of Dablasio, are just chewing up the city and
ruining everything. And and Adams comes in and he's like, Okay,
I don't want to do this anymore. But he's not.
He's not an adept enough leader and manager to stop it.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Really.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Maybe he has slowed the progression, but it's it's, you know,
it's kind of kept going. Where would Donni be on this?
That's that's really good. Bring us back to the question
would he be a Deblasio or would he be something else?
Because Deblasio, I truly believe, for ideological reasons, intentionally ruined
the city of New York as much as he could.
He didn't ruin it totally, but he intentionally made every

(39:15):
bad decision that could be made, every stupid move that
he could possibly have pulled off. Uh, if Mom Donnie
were to speak left and govern right, first of all,
I would I would give ten or one to ten.
I always get this wrong. Whatever, the odds are very
long odds that he would do that ten to one,
ten to one, I'd give ten to one odds that

(39:36):
he would do that. And even if he did, I'm
not sure that he has the This is where I
think it's an Eric Adams thing. I don't think he
has the ability to figure it out right. So maybe
on the nypdst side, at least he knows to leave
a good commissioner in place, but there's a lot of
other stuff that the city needs needs help with. I
just don't know if he has the functional ability because

(39:57):
he's never really had a job like this to act
actually implement a lot of the things that he's saying.
And so, look, is it a big risk? Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Do? Would I live in New York City?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
If I made a good living and my job were
something where I could live other places, I would probably
say I'm out. Now. I understand a lot of you
have kids in school. It's hard to move you've got
jobs that are not portable in natural nature, You've got
family that you are deeply connected to in neighborhoods, and
all those other things. But if he's actually going to

(40:33):
implement the agenda that he is saying he's going to implement,
then I think New York City is in severe So
I know, I know Florida realtors personally, you're already running
specific ads online to target, you know, in a good way,
but to target New Yorkers who they think are high

(40:55):
income and will want to flee to Florida. If Mo'm
Donnie Wins like, that's already happening here. If you're wondering
if your Florida real estate prices are probably gonna keep
going up, I think they are. I I would be
nervous if I'm a New York City guy and Gal
and I just I look at it, and a part
of me thinks, could this be a bait and switch

(41:17):
where he says all these crazy left wing things and
then when it comes to actually delivering on them, it's
very difficult to deliver on them. And I just so
you're you're talking about Lax, sounds like you think that
he's even if he's like a Leninist. He's an incompetent Leninist,
So maybe he can't get it done. That's a different

(41:37):
thing than I actually repudiate Vladimir Lenin. You know what
I'm saying. Yes, fine, I think that there could be
I'm not sure how committed he actually is to it.
I think this guy just wants to be elected mayor,
and I think he may not be able to implement
it because what's he done to succeed? What management ability
does he have where you look at it and you say, boy,

(41:58):
this guy's been really really good to your point, Bloomberg,
Bloomberg is in a phenomenal business right like he is.
Whatever you think about Mayor Bloomberg, he built one of
the all time great media and business I think he
was the richest New Yorker. I think he was the
richest New Yorker in New York State when he was mayor.

(42:19):
I think that's true. He was worth like sixty billion
dollars or something like that. I mean, the guy is
an incredibly skilled business figure. Deblasio is a mess. Juliani
I think really got it with what was it Bratton,
his initial commissioner that he worked with in the New
York City PD. I think he knew because he was
a prosecutor. What do you have to do to move

(42:40):
the levers of crime in New York City. I just
don't know that mom, Donnie has the skill set buck
to actually implement anything that he's claiming he's going to do.
According to groc Bloomberg is still the richest guy in
New York State, worth over one hundred billion dollars. And
unless I'm mistaken, Bloomberg made all of his money. No,

(43:00):
he did not, did not inherit. He didn't inherit eighty billion.
And wants to tell you about the twenty Let me
tell you something that you inherit eighty billion. The last
twenty is not hard? Uh, but you know that that, yes,
that is the case. He completely built his own business.
So he's clearly a very high i Q, very capable guy,
and and that showed in the City of New York.
He was a he was a fantastic mayor. And people

(43:21):
can say what they want. I knew very conservative cops
in the NYPD, and they would not say a bad
word about Bloomberg full stop, even though they disagree with
them on some stuff. They're like he's doing a great job. Mom,
Donnie Clay, you could have a Kami who's also incompetent. Now,
this is what the question that I was asking you is,
does the incompetence work in the favor of the city,

(43:44):
because yes, you know that's that may be the case.
Like when he says things like running having city run
grocery stores is one.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Of the craziest ideas on the planet. It's just it's
just bonkers.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
It's it's also you think about this, the weally don't
have even the grocery store is one of the hardest business.
They have a one or two percent profit margin. The
produce is constantly, constantly having to be replaced because obviously
it has perishability issues. Getting You know this better than anybody,
all you guys, getting things into New York City is

(44:18):
incredibly expensive, difficult shipping all the I mean, the idea
that somehow the government is going to run a better
grocery store and save people money is so crazy. By
the way, two hundred and nine murders in New York
City year to date through the end of August. That
is a twenty percent decline from last year and would
put them on pace for somewhere in the two hundreds,

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Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
a trendy new workout, Buck, It does, but it's actually
a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name
is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and
South Africa. But they've just added five new members. Smart
move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens when
acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone. Well, that's an understatement.

(46:26):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order.

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Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

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Can he give us some inside intel?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Phillip
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Speaker 2 (47:00):
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(48:08):
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(48:30):
find the Clay and Buck Show. We are across the
entire landscape, and as we start off the third hour here,
I do think looking at Chicago as an example of
the Democrat Party having lost its way and Trump uniquely
hitting on a story that intuitively is very positive, which

(48:53):
is I want to drive down the rate of violent
crime across the country. Right now, too many people are
getting murdered, too many people are getting beaten up, too
many people are getting carjacked, having their property stolen. All
of this would be a really good resolution. Now, this morning, JB.

(49:14):
Pritzker was walking and being interviewed during his walk, and
he dodged a question about the extreme rate of violence
that took place in Chicago over the weekend. This is
cut twenty nine. You're going to hear people, especially pat
this past weekend fifty four shot, seven dead. They're going
to say the city's not safe.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Would you ask.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Your friends to ride the l after midnight or after
nine o'clock at night, even to come down to the
city from O'Hare. Look, big cities have crime, there's no
doubt about it. But let's just pay attention to what
President Trump is doing targeting show he's overlooking red states
that have much higher crime rates. Okay, this is a

(49:59):
really bad argument. Now, if Pritzker wants to argue that
in blue cities in red states there are also super
high crime rates and the National Guard should be called
in there too, I echo it Memphis, in my home state,
I would welcome the National Guard. I think a lot
of you listening in Kansas City or Saint Louis or

(50:21):
New Orleans would welcome the National Guard in your city's
to drive down rates of violent crime. We're going to
play a couple of other cuts, Brandon Johnson, the mayor,
but Buck this is an example of trying to make
an argument that is very difficult and ultimately comes down
to I'm concerned that Trump is exercising too much power

(50:41):
in his effort to drive down violent crime in my community.
That is effectively what Trump has got Democrats arguing. It's,
like I said, a win from both sides of the issue,
as in, Trump is doing an objectively good thing, right,
not even a politically good thing, an objective good thing,
and the politics of it are favorable to Trump because

(51:04):
the Democrats are are coming out and they just refuse
to say what we all know. I mean, they refuse
to see the reality, which is that it just it
really has to start from this premise Clay of it
doesn't have to be this way. We don't actually have
to have, you know, five hundred murders a year in
Chicago and five or six hundred mders a year in Philadelphia,

(51:25):
and you look at some of the recent some of
the recent tallies in these cities. It's just simply unacceptable
and it's year in and year out. This could be changed.
Trump wants to change it. And and you know you
had the the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. I mean,
this is just the kind of stuff that you're gonna

(51:46):
hear from some of these Democrats. He's saying he wants
this is on a Labor Day rally, he called on
the citizens of Chicago to def You know what, I
want you to hear this. This is the mayor of
our third largest city, Democrat of course, play twenty six.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
Are you prepared to defend this land?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
This land that was.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
Built by slaves, a layan that was built by indigenous people,
alayan that's built by workers. Are you prepared to defend
this land? But people deny you will always prevail. I
need you all to stand firm, to stand strong if

(52:26):
this president decides to continue to break this constitution.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
First of all, is you talking about he'say in Chicago
was built by indigenous people? It actually wasn't. It was
a fort to fight those indigenous people. But that's a
whole other thing. Not many slaves involved in the construction
of Chicago. Yeah, just just do a little bit of
basic historical research, just going to toss it out there, Illinois,
Land of Lincoln, not exactly known for its huge embrace

(52:57):
of slavery.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
And again for the history nerds out.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
There, most of Chicago burned down in the eighteen eighties,
so with the famous cow knocking over the knocking over
the lantern, and the whole city basically burned down. So
Chicago was by and large a city that was built
by free people. Just FYI, So even the argument of

(53:22):
this is stolen land and this is enslaved populous, it's
just all bs. And I believe that the derivation of
the city of Chicago comes from an Algonquin word for
an onion like plant that is quite pungent, chicaqua. I
think that's actually correct. Yes, so there you have it.

(53:43):
So we named it for something that has indigenous indigenous roots,
but it was not in fact built by indigenous people.
But more to the point, defend your city against the
National Guard. Who does you think the National Guard is
comprised of? Pretty sure it's Americans the last I checked.
And defend the city against them makes it sound like
they're an invading force that's doing bad things to people.

(54:04):
They would just be there to assist with law enforcement.
I also I see all these smug comments in the
DC context, even from commentators out there saying, you know,
they're not even going into the most dangerous neighborhoods. They're
there at at like Union Station. There have been people
shot within blocks of Union Station, robbed at Union Station,
shot in Union Station. This actually happens, and it just

(54:27):
shows you these people have no idea who are making
these comments, what they're talking about. But also, yeah, it
turns out that when there are men and women who
have you know, m sixteens and who are there observing
what's going on, people are less likely to pull out
guns and shoot each other. Yes, this is pretty pretty
understandable why they say halt you know, you know, and

(54:48):
they they're calling the cops on I don't think you
want to open up with your pistol on the National Guard.
There's a reason why bad guys don't want to do
things in front of armed good guys. This is very straightforward.
And also, even if you're not directly seeing the armed
forces the security apparatus, in the back of your mind,
you're thinking they might be there. Because when you believe

(55:11):
that there are consequences for crime, it makes a criminal
take a pause. And think, oh, maybe the risk of
attempting this violent act. Maybe the risk of attempting this
criminal act is one there will be consequences for. And
so there are less violent acts that actually are begun
in the first place, just by the idea of, hey,

(55:33):
they might catch me. And this goes to NYPD, right,
if you think I might do something that's not very significant,
jump say the turnstile in a subway. If you think
I might get caught for doing this, you're less likely
to accelerate to some level of crime that is more significant.
This is why when when they were trying to get

(55:53):
rid of the plane close there was a high crime
specific plane closed unit the NYPD, and this became a
big political firestorm. It's yeah, because these guys are very
and girls are very useful because if you don't know
that they and the NYPD is very good at this,
by the way, at having people who can blend in

(56:16):
if you don't know that that's a cop and you're
doing something and you're breaking but those those those plain
clothes officers, if you don't break the law, then ever
you don't even.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Know they're there.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
They don't bother you. The point is they're there. And
it changes the calculation to your point, Clay of the
bad guys. I saw something here at Miami Beach, I
gotta say was very crockt and tubs, like very I
was very impressed. Uh it was a I believe it
was a Bentley that was actually an undercover cop car.

(56:47):
So I've got to assume that it was seized, probably
in some kind of a drug bust or something, and
they but it had it was a Bentley with the
with the the bubblegum machine as they call it, with
the blue and red lights or whatever, and pulled somebody
over and some kind of I was like, you wouldn't
see that one coming. You know, you wouldn't usually think
that was going to happen. So you know, there are
ways to do this that make it very effective policing.

(57:08):
But I also if Brandon Johnson was a serious person,
I mean, he's seriously dangerous to the city of Chicago
with his policies. But if he was a serious person,
he wouldn't say Trump is evil, Let's just stop Trump.
He would say, guys, I have a better way to
bring the crime numbers down. The moment he starts talking
about and every Democrat in a major city starts talking

(57:30):
about they start babbling on about investment, they start babbling
on about social workers, and it's just nonsense. It's unserious.
This is why the data coming out of Washington, d C.
Is so important because what it begs the question of
is if Trump could drive down violent crime in DC

(57:52):
by around fifty percent in the three weeks plus that
there have been the distribution of National Guard troops to
support at it, how many people are you willing to
let die because you're angry that Trump is trying to
provide more security to your city, or that you're angry
that Trump is the president. Let's just call it what
it is. People are just saying they hate Trump, They're

(58:13):
angry he's president, and anything he does they want to stop.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
So it's just a continuation of that. Now. One of
the challenges with lowering violent crime is you don't necessarily
know what lives you save. There are kids, and I
say kids because tim generally speaking, they're young. There are
kids in school this week in Washington, d C. That
would be dead if Donald Trump had not brought the

(58:38):
National Guard into DC. We don't know who those kids are,
but they are alive today because he did that, that's
what the data reflects. Seven people dead in Chicago. I
give credit to that media member. Fifty four people shot
over Labor Day weekend, and she asked a pretty basic question,
what would you tell people who are afraid to get

(58:58):
on a train from O'Hare to go into the city.
And he immediately pivots to, well, that's not the real
question here. Make look at what Trump is trying to do.
I mean, his argument Buck was he's not going into
red states with higher rates of crime. Well, first of all,
red states, by and large don't have higher rates of crime.
Blue cities and red states. My home state of Tennessee

(59:19):
is a great example. The crime rate in Memphis makes
the crime rate in the whole state look huge.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So if JB.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Pritzker's argument, which begs the question for the follow up
there is, hey, Trump needs to be going into more
red state cities, which are of course blue driven, aren't
you actually endorsing that his policies make sense? Like when
you're shifting the argument to well, why isn't he going
to Memphis or why isn't he going to New Orleans
or why isn't he going to Kansas City or Saint Louis,

(59:50):
you're actually just legitimizing the fact that it would be successful.
And I give Trump that challenge. Why not do it.
Let's do it everywhere. Let's see if we can drive
down the rate of violent crime in the cities where
violent crime is at the highest, all of whom have
Democrat mayors. And I don't want to divert us too
much into this, but it just just a reminder. As
I've said, they deployed the National Guard for COVID at

(01:00:12):
airports and tur and all kinds of public venues, as
if they were going to shoot the virus particles in
the airs. It was absurd, it was It was absurd,
and they were Democrats were fine with that, right, Oh,
we need the National Guard checking your papers, checking your
papers everyone for COVID. That wasn't a police state, they said,
that wasn't a police state. But having National Guard in

(01:00:34):
a federal province, which is DC, there to just make
sure you can walk down the street and not get
shot or carjacked, that they have a problem. That's tyranny.
Someone explained this to me, right, like, someone explain the
logic behind this. And again, you've got two guys who've
lived in DC. We know stuff would happened in DC.
I remember I had a friend who got who got
robbed the gunpoint and he was a DoD employee, and

(01:00:56):
they were able to track This is when we all
had black or they all had black some of them
had blackberries, like secure blackberries, and they were able to
track the guy down because he had the BlackBerry that
he was trying to sell. You know, like that would
just happen though. You just get someone would pull a
gun on you in the nicest neighborhoods of DC and
everyone's like, ah, yeah, it's DC, it's crazy town.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
What can you do?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
All right?

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