October 21, 2025 • 50 mins
Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton! If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.
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It's All Gonna Be Okay
Reflections on the ongoing government shutdown, now in its 21st day, framing it as a result of Democratic obstructionism. Clay and Buck also discuss President Donald Trump's $250 million White House ballroom renovation, joking about Clay’s dancing skills and the broader implications of the renovation.
A major segment focuses on the broken ceasefire in Gaza, with Buck emphasizing that Hamas remains unchanged and peace is impossible while its leadership remains intact. The hosts also highlight Judge Jeanine Pirro’s defense of Edward “Big Balls,” a man who intervened in a carjacking incident, portraying him as a patriotic hero.
The show then shifts to political media, mocking Karine Jean-Pierre’s book and criticizing the broader trend of Biden administration officials publishing memoirs. Clay and Buck argue that these books reveal a lack of awareness or integrity regarding President Biden’s cognitive decline.
A significant portion of Hour 1 centers on the heated New York City mayoral race. Curtis Sliwa refuses to drop out despite pressure, which Clay argues will ensure the election of progressive candidate “Mamdani.” The hosts debate whether Andrew Cuomo would be a better alternative and explore the strategic implications for the Republican Party. They suggest that a Momani victory could benefit national GOP efforts by making far-left politics more visible and unpopular in battleground states. The discussion includes commentary on Bill Ackman, down-ballot Republican candidates, and the broader impact on upstate New York.
NYC Mayor's Race
New York City mayoral race, where Curtis Sliwa faces mounting pressure to drop out to prevent a victory by far-left candidate Zohran Mamdani. The New York Post’s front-page plea for Sliwa to “just walk away” underscores the urgency felt by conservatives. Buck and Clay debate whether Andrew Cuomo would be a better alternative, despite his controversial record on bail reform and COVID-19 policies. They also discuss the broader political ramifications, suggesting that a Mamdani win could energize Republican campaigns in New Jersey, Virginia, and beyond.
Stripper Teachers
The fallout from a Chicago elementary school teacher who made a gesture mimicking the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk during a “No Kings” protest. Clay argues that public school teachers should be held to a moral standard and that such behavior warrants termination. This sparks a lively debate with listeners calling in to defend or challenge the idea, including humorous and serious takes on whether teachers should be allowed to moonlight as strippers or work at Hooters.
The hosts also revisit the Jimmy Kimmel controversy and the broader issue of free speech versus professional accountability. They emphasize that First Amendment protections do not guarantee immunity from consequences in the workplace, especially when public trust is at stake. This leads into a discussion of COVID-era hypocrisy, including the absurd restrictions placed on athletes like Kyrie Irving and the shifting public narrative around vaccine mandates. ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith is praised for acknowledging that Kyrie was right to resist the COVID shot, a stance that was once widely condemned.
Dishonest Democrats
Trump’s East Wing renovation, including a ballroom project and a humorous historical anecdote about JFK’s infamous White House pool parties. The hosts use this to critique the media’s long-standing romanticization of Democratic figures like JFK and FDR, highlighting how past administrations manipulated public perception with the help of a compliant press.
The conversation shifts to Trump’s speech on the shutdown, where he praises OMB Director Russ Vought—nicknamed “Darth Vader”—for cutting Democrat priorities and wasteful spending. Clay and Buck argue that the shutdown has allowed the administration to eliminate unnecessary programs, particularly in blue states, and that Democrats are struggling to justify their resistance. They mock Chuck Schumer’s attempt to frame the shutdown as a Republican failure, labeling it the “Schumer Shutdown” and pointin
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody Tuesday edition.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll be Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off
right now, day twenty one of the shutdown. It's a
real shutdown situation they are having here. We will get
into some of the back end. Ford pretty straightforward Democrats
view the obstructions what they used to call it when
you didn't do whatever President Obama wanted. And you'll remember
(00:25):
that obstruction is their only game plan right now. And
if that means that they don't have anything beyond it,
so be it. We can have a conversation about that.
President Trump is doing a two hundred and fifty million
dollars White House ballroom renovation, which most exciting of all
(00:45):
is that it's just a matter of time before mister
Clay Travis puts on his dancing shoes and shows you
all the crazy, funky moves that he's got at some
White House function. You know he's gonna step on the
dance floor. Make John Travolta in his prime.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Look. I would just say for.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Radio show host particularly white guys who are radio show host,
I would put myself in the top five percent best dancers.
I don't know who else is actually really talented. And
by the way, I'm not you. I wasn't practicing TikTok
dance moves by myself in my apartment during COVID. So
it may be the case that you're in the one
percent or the point one percent, But I don't think
(01:26):
that radio show host are renowned for their elite dance ability.
So I feel confident. Much like when you came into
the sports broadcasting the press boxes and I said, hey,
it doesn't take a lot to be a decent looking
sports writer. I don't think it takes a lot to
be a decent dancer in the radio world either.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, there might be a forget a stake bet, there
might have to be a dance on video, put it
on social and TikTok bet at some point. Now that
we got the White House ballroom going, but that's part
of Trump's renovation of the White House that has been underway.
We've got that discussion. HAMAS has broken the ceasefire. That
is not a surprise to me. I would assume to
(02:10):
any of you HAMAS is going to continue on doing
what it does. It has not changed anything about what
it is, and there's going to have to be a
further reckoning. They cannot allow Hamas leadership to stay in place.
There can be no peace with Hamas. That is what
we are seeing. That is not something that, like I said,
(02:31):
comes out of the blue for anybody who's been paying
attention to the region. But we can have some updates
for you on that as we go. Also, Judge Janine
is taking it, taking it to the mat in defense
of mister big Balls.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
What's his actual name?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I know him as only as big Balls sos to
be known as I guess in the grand scheme of things.
But yes, let me see if I can find his
It's very funny what his actual name is. He was
beaten up in the in the attacks, and he's a
great American. He stepped in to help somebody who's being carjacked.
(03:10):
Carjacked by teenagers, mind you, a mob of them, Edward
Chorsteine Chorustine. There we go, aka big Ball. Yes, such
Janin is having none of it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We shall discuss that Karine Jean Pierre is out there
making the case for her book to people.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I think all these Biden books.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You notice, Clay, You're not even hearing anyone talking about
Kamala's book anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You're trolling who read it one hundred and seven days? Yeah,
that's called being a team player, Clay. Some of us
are out there. Some of us are out there in
the grove or whatever at Old Miss, partying and enjoying football,
surrounded by great Americans and beautiful ladies. Some of us
want a gouger eyeballs out with a spoon because we
(03:58):
are stuck.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Reading one hundred and seven days.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I'm just saying, you know, there are those of
us who are on the all expenses cruise and those
of us who are taking grenades in the trenches on
this one. Nonetheless, nobody, nobody is talking about Kamala's book
and Creie Jean Pierre's book comes down to I am
so incapable of assessing what is going on around me
(04:23):
that I really had no idea that Joe Biden had dementia.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I really just didn't know. I almost think that's worse.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think it would be better to say, you know what,
I believe that Trump is so bad for America that
I was willing to be a part of a big lie.
At least there'd be some integrity in admitting that. Pretending
you are so out of it and really kind of
dumb that you have no idea that anyway, Well, I don't.
We can get more into that discussion. I'm gonna start
with this. People are getting very testy over Some people
(04:53):
are getting testy over the New York City mayor's race
situation as the oncoming collectivist freight train of Mamdaniism is
getting closer and closer to my beloved New York City,
and Curtis Sliwa is staying in all the calls, including
(05:15):
from a lot of New York based commentators play. A
lot of people are saying, Curtis, look is you gotta
save New York from from quote, I mean from a
Mamdani Cuomo's not great, but it will be better. Uh,
Clomo's actually pretty awful. This is really trading an F
student for like a C minus student, I think is the.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Fairest way to put it. Here is what Sliwa has
to say about.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
First of all, Bill Ackman, a billionaire activist, h centrist guy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I wouldn't say he's right wing. Uh here he is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, Slee was saying he that guy needs to go
take a long walk off a short pier play seven.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well number one. Ackman is a jerk, as he been right.
Yet here's a guy who goes a Newport, Rhode Island
and thinks he's a professional penance player. Come on, acman,
stay in the lane. Does he know anything about politics? No?
Does he live in New York City, No, he lives
in Chaprika, the whitest suburb of America where even.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The lawn jockey's are white. He may know Wall Street,
he may know Hedge funds. He has been wrong every
step of the way with the billionaires. So let's say
people come to the conclusion if somehow I lose and
we know Andrew Como's lost, he's already tossed in the town.
Oh it's because of you, Curtis, Because it really it's
(06:33):
because of the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Let me say, who created rohan An Tommy, who embraced him,
who nursed him, who supported him.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Clay, he is not buying into the argument you have
been making, among many others, for the necessity of his dropout.
He's saying, Look, it's all the democrats fault. I'm staying
in it to win it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's not wrong about it being all the Democrats' fault.
What he is wrong about is if if he stays
in it, all he's doing is guaranteeing Mamdanni is going
to be elected the next mayor of New York City
here in thirteen days. And I've made the argument, I
really do believe this that Mamdanni winning is simultaneously the
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worst thing that could happen to New York City and
the best thing that could happen to the rest of
the country, because it makes Mamdanni in AOC the face
of the Democrat Party socialist communists in New York City,
and New York City, as nice of a place as
it is, does not play well in all of the
battleground states, the places where control of the Senate is
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going to be determined, and the place is where control
of the House is going to be determined. So with
that in mind, there is an argument that Kurtisly was
actually doing what is best for the Republican Party by
refusing to drop out. I don't think there's any argument
at all that he's doing what is best for New
York City because his continued UH involvement in this race
(08:02):
has continued.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Staying in this race.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Ensures that Mam Donnie is going to be elected the
next mayor of New York City, and then it becomes
a case buck of you just have to hope that mom,
Donnie is so incompetent that he isn't able to implement
the things that he has promised he is going to
be implemable.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This is my silver This is my silver lining. That's
the only silver lining is that he's so unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think Eric Adams had a similar but different problem
in that he had some good ideas on public safety
but lacked the bureaucratic skills to implement them. Mam Donnie,
it's it's a different problem. What he wants to do
is bad, but he may be incapable of doing it.
Here we have Curtis lee With continuing on this is
(08:50):
Hot Tip Nate Friedman podcast. I've never heard of Nate,
but here this is from his podcast. But here's Curtis
Leewa making his case Clay that this idea that all
the Cuomo people the rather that his people will just
vote Cuomo, is also detached from what he sees as
reality play eight.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And how dare you people who know nothing about politics,
suggest that everybody who's going to vote for me is
suddenly gonna be reborn we love Angel Cuomo. He killed
all these elderlys that sexual harassment. He told conservatives and
Republicans in twenty fourteen, if you're a conservative and you
(09:28):
believe in right to life and the Second Amendment, you
have no place in New York.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You need to leave.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
This is the result of the Democrat self destruction.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I'm supposed to help them. How come they don't
help themselves? Clay, what do you make of that? Again?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I don't disagree with anything that he's arguing. The question
is is Cuomo likely to be better for New York City,
as awful as he has been in the past than
Mom Donnie.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do I think that Republicans should have to save Democrats
from the consequences of their own choices?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And again, this is where I come back, and I
understand we got a lot of wr listeners. This is
where I come back to. It can simultaneously be the
best and worst thing for the Republican Party for Mamdani
to win. I think it's the worst thing for anyone
who is saying in New York City. I think it's
arguably the best thing that could happen for anyone who
(10:28):
is saying in the country. And this is why I've said,
sometimes you just got to let the island go under
the water. Best case scenario to your point, Buck, he's
so incompetent that he can't actually change anything or implement
any of his ideas. Worst case scenario he does in
New York City, really, as one of the crown jewels
of America, starts to reflect some of the same issues
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that we have seen happen in many of the top
capitals across the West, which is all of the choices
they're making are fine. He's starting to catch up with them.
Whether it's London, whether it's Paris, you name the big
Western civilization capitals. I think they're making increasingly left wing
choices that are bad for the overall populations there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Part of the problem is that leftists have a much
higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a
lot of the sane people us realize. Right, San Francisco
should have known twenty years ago, hey what are you doing.
You're ruining a great American city. Now it seems they
finally have a more sane mayor, finally, but it took
(11:34):
way too long. I worry that something that that'll happen
in New York. But here, just for one last, one
last bit of the argument, Clay, here's Curtis Sliwa telling
Andrew Cuomo that it's on him to go out and
convert Sliwa voters.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Play nine.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Andrew Cuomo failed to everybody in that primary.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
He even admitted it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Now he's basically saying, I can't win without Sliwa votes.
Where are your votes? Why did you spend your money
and things? Got millions from the billionaires millions? Go out
get your home vote. Conversely, we're voters. But for me
to drop out, I represent a major party line. I
have people running under me, counsel people, judges. They put
(12:12):
their heart and soul into it. They support me. I
have more more donations than Andrew Cmo does matching funds.
So you know something.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
This is called voting.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Since when do we not let people vote billionaires determine
the next mayor. If they don't like it, they can leave.
They have options. Blue Coylar working class people don't. Those
are the people I'm representing, not Andrew Cmo play.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
His best argument, I think is actually what he said
about the down ticket on the Republican side, or rather
the one that we hadn't really discussed here. And I
do think there's merit to that. But he's also going
to make sure that Mam Donnie wins this election.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
A part of me makes me think he spends so
much time attacking Cuomo. Has Mom Donnie promised him some
sort of job. It sounds crazy, but is there something
I don't Is there something that curtisly wants in terms?
And I don't even think it would be bad politics
from Mom Donnie? Why otherwise, why would you stay in
(13:15):
It's It then becomes almost entirely a vanity project.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Maybe he hates personally Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Maybe they've had a relationship in the past. That is
a lot of people do just to a lot of
people really personally dislike Andrew, So he may not personally
dislike Mom Donnie. And this may be personal on Curtis
Lee's behalf. But again, in thirteen days, the data is
going to be out there, and I think you can
look at it and we'll see whether Mom Donnie wins
(13:43):
a majority of this trio or does the Do the
numbers reflect that if there had been a one V one,
Mom Donnie would have lost because right now, as we're
speaking to all of you, Mom Donnie keeps setting new
highs buck in the life likelihood of being able to
be the nominee and to win this race. And so
(14:05):
long as that continues, I think that we're in a really,
really tough spot for the city of New York. Now
positive is there does seem to be some good momentum
for Cidarelli on the Jersey race, and certainly Jason Miarez
and win. Some seers I think have made up some
(14:26):
ground in the state of Virginia as that race is going.
But right now you have a ninety three percent chance
in all of the sort of prediction markets that Mamdanie's
gonna win. And if you think Sliva was gonna win,
because we get these calls every time, you can one
hundred times your money in thirteen days. So this would
(14:48):
be one of the most epic upsets in the history
of upsets. All of you should go vote, don't listen
to us, make your voice heard. But I think the
voices of New York are unfortunately going to be heard,
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Speaker 3 (16:25):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We have
got thirteen days until the New York City mayor grace,
until the governor's race in New Jersey, until the governor's
race in Virginia. And I woke up this morning as
one of the few people who still buys print newspapers,
and I'm in New York City, still flying back home tonight,
(16:47):
And the front page of the New York Post, Buck,
which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, says, just walk away, Bray.
Even allies tell Sleewood to drop mayor bid. Don't let
Zoran win. And you know you grew up in New
York City. The tabloids don't have the same impact necessarily
(17:10):
that they used to do back in the day. But
as the conservative leaning tabloid. When the Post puts the
Republican mayor nominee on the front page of the paper
and says basically making fun of him. Get out of
this race. You have no chance of winning. The pressure
on Slee what to drop out continues to rise. You
(17:31):
grew up in New York City, Buck, Do you think
there's any way Curtis Slee what drops out? Or do
you think at this point, thirteen days out, it doesn't
matter because early voting starts. I think in a few days.
If he's not going to drop out in the next
couple of days, it's over. I don't see him dropping
out at all, and I see Zoron Mamdani as the
next mayor of New York. I'm just basing this on
(17:52):
the polls and all of the now. Can we also
just people say, what about the polls with Trump? Polls
can be wrong within in three or four points, and
in a presidential election, that makes all the difference. It's
very rare for every single polster to be wrong by
thirty points.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, there's a difference.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, that is just to get this because I'm seeing
you guys are annoying Mamdan. I'm not annoying anything. I'm
the one who thinks it's insane that Mamdani could become
the mayor of New York. I'm the one who wants
to stop, to do whatever we can through this election
process to make him not the mayor. But unfortunately the
numbers are the numbers. You're talking about an eight to
one Democrat to Republican city, and no variation of the
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numbers coming even close to a Cuomo win, even if
rather with with Curtis Lee was staying in.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's no variation that I've seen that does that. The
thing that makes me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Pretty sanguine about it all, Clay, not a seguine as you, sir,
but senguine about it all, is I don't think Cuomo
would be good. Yeah, I maybe not. Insane is not
the same thing as good. I think he'd be a
very bad mayor. And and in some respect people keep
talking about the COVID thing.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He was the no bail, no jail guy.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It was Andrew Cuomo who was like, you know what,
let's let that maniac out who just punks the old
lady on the subway. Let's let him out, even with
the fiftieth time he's been arrested. Nope, no bail. That's
the Cuomo routine. This is where blue.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Cities leave themselves with no real option Andrew Cuomo, who
was one of the worst governors during COVID, is now
the savior supposedly of New York City, which is why
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Speaker 1 (21:22):
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see us as we are rolling through. All right, Buck,
you mentioned it, you'll leave me, and you have no
idea what might come on. I thought I was making
the least controversial argument that's ever taken place. Let me
reierate what happened this Chicago area teacher. I'm sure you
saw the video book As the No Kings protests were
(22:09):
going on, a Trump affiliated car is driving by to
Turning Point, USA, driving by, and this elementary school teacher
celebrates by putting her hand to her throat as if
she is she's mimicking the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Disgusting, I mean really and psychotic, disgusting stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And I said as a part of the argument that look,
I'm a free speech guy, but there is a morality
component to being an elementary school teacher, and you can
be fired for violating that morality component. And as an example,
as an example, I said, for instance, I think most
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people would not want their kids elementary school teacher to
be a stripper and I can't believe it, but we
have been we have been deluged by people that actually
disagreed with me.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Uh so uh here we have a widebray.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Some of them are very funny, but I thought we
could play some of these, some of these talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And uh Brandon.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I also said, by the way, that there's a middle
ground right where if you worked as a waiter or
waitress at Applebee's, I think that you could clearly probably
have both jobs.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
A lot of teachers have multiple jobs. Maybe you work
in the summer when you're out of school. And I said,
but Hooters might be a more of a middle ground, right,
like where people could agree or disagree Brandon and Michigan says, uh,
he'd go to a lot more school activities if his
kids teacher also worked at Hooters. This is bbe Brandon
weighing in Travis.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I'm just gonna say, if my kids teacher worked at Hooters,
I'd probably be a lot more interested and going to
conferences and going to school activities.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All right, thank you, Brandon.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And then Ken in California, he's fired up at me.
I'm my opinion that you can't be a stripper in
an elementary school teacher.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He's mad. He says, Hey, Clay, you're wrong. CC.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
You know you can't be for the First Amendment and
boobs and give this teacher criticism over her First Amendment
right for expression. Yes it's abhorrent, Yes it's tacky, Yes
it's despicable. Hate speech just still got to be a
protective speech, whether we.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Like it or not.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
And I don't like it, but she did it, and
it's not against the law.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This is I'm gone for one hour.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I don't know you have the keys to the car solo,
and our entire inbox today.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Is about boobs. But I mean, I am of the
opinion I said this on the show.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think Bucky you would sign off, like if we
employed someone on The Clay and Buck Show that celebrated
Charlie kurr assassination. I believe in the First Amendment. The
First Amendment doesn't mean that there aren't consequences for your behavior.
And if you are a public school teacher, elementary school,
I don't think you should be teaching kids if you
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are going around publicly celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I wouldn't want my third grader, I wouldn't want to
walk in there and know that she had been at
a No King's protest doing celebratory gestures having to do
with Charlie Kirk's murder, because I would say that would
influence her teaching. To all the people who are saying
this about that teacher, for example, these are it's always
(25:40):
situational with leftists. They want what they want, how they
want it, when they want it. There's no principle, there's
no rule that we can all be held to.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I just give you this.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
If Jimmy Kimmel, or if this teacher had had been
shouting a racial slur, a racial slur that you're never
allowed to say, would we be hearing about free speech arguments.
Would they be saying, oh, but you know it's free speech,
you're allowed to say that. No, you're not right. So
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where is the line here? The line is what is
abhorrence to the people that you are either serving, in
the case of a teacher, the community you're serving, or
to a very unfunny late night talk show host who's
representing a broader corporate brand. And this is true of anybody.
I might add, you don't make You don't get to
make a free speech argument. If you walked into in
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a tech while you're working for Lumberg and you told
Lumberg what you really think of him when he's like,
would you come in and work on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Great movie?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And you started great movie and you started just dropping
all kinds of curse words and telling them what you
really think of him and his stupid suspenders and the
whole thing, and he fired you. You don't have a
First Amendment argument. I just feel like people intentionally confuse
this thing now where you are entitled. If you are
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advancing leftist ideology in some capacity, the First Amendment means
you have an ironclad right to not be fired from
your job or have there be any consequences for it.
Then people say, well, what about when the cancel culture stuff.
The cancel culture stuff was unreasonable and irrational firing of
people for saying entirely valid and normal and things that
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half the country agrees with.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, and look.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Again, I think that public school elementary school teachers, which
are being funded by all of our taxpayers, I don't
think it's too high of a standard of behavior to
expect that you're not going to be in public, celebrating
a public assassination of a figure, And so I think
(27:50):
if you did that and Rachel Maddow had gotten shot
and you are a super right winger, which I don't
think people would even really celebrate it, the consequence on
this same side, you shouldn't be celebrating political assassinations and
making a living teaching young kids.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Abody who's defending anybody who's I mean, anyone who's defending
this particular teacher who made this abhorren gesture. If that
teacher had walked, you know, if that teacher was walking
the streets with a you know, George Floyd got what
he deserved. He was a convicted felon drug addict, you know,
written on or teacher. Would any even making the case that,
(28:29):
you know, that's okay free speech, No, they would not.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
They would all be saying.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, but the racism and the bad things, and they
can't be corrupting the mind of the youth and all
this other stuff. So this is why I found the
Jimmy Kimmel argument, which ties into this too, just absurd
on its face. It's like he said something that pissed
off a lot of people. He doesn't have a First
Amendment right to keep that job that he has forever.
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There are a million things. Not only do we have
FCC regulations here on radio, there are a million things
that have either of us said, go into a lot
of trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Really, it's you know, have you betrayed your audience, right,
or have you betrayed a large enough portion of your
audience with what you've said or outraged them with what
you've said that you cease to be able to function
as somebody who they can trust and who is still
a viable show. Well, I mean, this is the real
What was happening on the other side and the cancel
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culture wars was people were creating a fiction that there
was outrage at somebody. This happened to rush outrage at
somebody for something that was said, and then there were
actions taken based on the lie that this was actually
so outrageous.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Look, I think if you went back in time and
you were looking at the Jimmy Kimmel thing, the FCC
weighing in, I think actually made it a bigger story
than it would have been if nobody had weighed in
at all on the government level, because then they said, oh, well,
this is government pressure and coercion. Look, the reality is
(29:59):
he missed four days and now he's back on the
air and there is virtually no discussion about this.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
But if But that also tells you that there was
no real fear of government coercion, because they wouldn't have
just put him on the air a few days later.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So that was a pretext. The whole thing was.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Again that's why I said, if you didn't say anything
about Roseanne or Gina Carano when they were canceled at Disney,
which almost no one did. We talked about that quite
a lot. Then I don't understand how you decide that
Jimmy Kimmel is the line in the sand that you
will draw. I mean the ACLU getting involved in everybody else.
But yes, your bigger picture point is an important one.
The government restricting your speech is what you should be
(30:38):
concerned about. That's actually what Alex Berenson's lawsuit, which I
think is still pending, is about, because that's what Joe
Biden did. Joe Biden went to Facebook, and he went
to Twitter, and he went to YouTube, and that they threatened,
They said, if you don't take down these posts, that
we don't like relating to COVID. There's going to be
(31:00):
a punishment. And now everybody suddenly is circling around and
saying what you and I said for a long time,
which brings me to cut twenty eight. You remember buck
in New York City when Kyrie Irving refused to get
the COVID shot in Brooklyn, and they wouldn't allow him
to play in the games, but they would allow him
(31:23):
to sit in the crowd court side.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Do you remember that absurdity of COVID.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
They wouldn't let him play in the game, but they
would allow him to sit on the court and watch
the games. That was the line that they were drawing
at that point in time. I remember being in line
for the Columbus Circle, New York City Whole Foods peak
pandemic time, and they were enforcing with Prussian efficiency six
(31:51):
feet of distancing between people standing in the line. Yes,
And then you got into the place. You got into
the Whole Foods and it was absolutely mobbed with people
like shoulder to shoulder and all the aisles and everything,
you know, unlimited.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Time to shop, do whatever you want to do. So
outside where you actually cannot spread the virus as an
open an open air, six feet of distancing inside, shoulder
to shoulder with worthless masks on. And you know, this
is all you need to know about. Somebody is a
public figure, as a leader, as a commentator, how were
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they during COVID? It was the stress test and all
these respects, which just brings me full circle to Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He was awful.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He was as bad as Gavin Newsom, He was as
bad as Gretchen Whitmer. He was absolutely terrible. In fact,
I think you could argue he was the worst because
he really set the tone of panic and authoritarianism alongside it.
That then all these other states followed because New York
got hit first. And here to close out to tie
in all of this. As the story has altered, Stephen A. Smith,
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ESPN's most prominent employee, now says, hey, Kyrie Irving was right.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
He should have never taken the COVID shot.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And they came after Kyrie Irving, they came after Aaron Rodgers,
they came after everybody who was in athletics that refused.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And I do give a little.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Bit of credit to Steven A because he's now pointing
out that that Kyrie was right, whereas most people out
there are still saying nothing at all.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Cut twenty eight Krry's a good brother.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
We used to butt hands because he misworked you damn much.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
And I'm like, yo, man, this brother's electrifud. I want
to see this brother dancing on a basketball court. I
want to hear, no, you got no COVID vaccine. You
could chance on the court and he see you.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Now. Obviously, in hindsight, the brother right.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Because we see all the conspiracy theories that come out,
and props to him for look for seeing.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Fat in the first sight to see that. We didn't
see that at the time.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
And then but you also have to understand, I'm living
in the world where you got cats making thirty eight
forty forty five million, you got GMS.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
And owners complaining about it, and you got billionaires.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Looking me in the face of saying, yo, stephen A,
I took that damn bad the hell of not to
take the vaccine, and we're living in a country where
the government was imposing all of that on us.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
So I'm sitting there going like this, we all taking
the risk.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Kyrie said, no, props to him, but I didn't view
it that way.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So he was right.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Most people won't even acknowledge that Kyrie Irving and Aaron
Rodgers and other prominent athletes who said I'm not going
to get the COVID shot were in fact correct. But
it's just one of very many things that to your point,
Andrew Cuomo, who is now supposed to be the savior
of New York, was one billion percent wrong on.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
He was terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
This is why I can't get that energized about the
anything to defeat. I think Sleeva probably feels this way too.
I haven't heard him say this, but we're supposed to
go and break out, you know, and and break the glass,
do anything we can so that Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Can be the mayor.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, he's horrible, Yes, I get it. I think I
think he hates Cuomo. By the way, we are right here,
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
We also have Trump just speaking a few moments ago.
As you know, there's a and the team pointed this
out to me, privately funded renovation. Really a remodel, a
demo and remodel of the East Wing of the White
House to accommodate a ballroom that, as some people are saying,
(36:53):
going to be the most fabulous ballroom of all ballrooms.
It's gonna be spectacular, I'm sure. And this is President
Trump speaking about the.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
West Wings history and.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
More.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Play thirty.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
This is, as you see over here, the Presidential Walk
of Fame. And we had this long wall with half
windows because that used to be a swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
On the other side of the wall. That was the swimming.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
Pool where Jackie would say, I hear women inside? Are
women inside? Quite a famous I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
This was a part of a movie.
Speaker 12 (37:31):
And the Secret Service said, no, ma'am, there's no women inside.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
Ma'am.
Speaker 12 (37:35):
I'm sorry, ma'am, you're gonna have to move along. But
I hear women inside. No, ma'am, you'll have to move along, ma'am.
So that was the famous swimming pool. Now it's even worse.
It's for the media. They covered the pull up, they
covered the pull.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Up, and now it's for the media.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
And I think we have a small representative group.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I don't think they allowed.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
The rest of them. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
What happened.
Speaker 12 (37:58):
They're all on the other side of the wall, believe it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That is one hell. So the story.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Should I tell the story that Trump is telling? I
guess I have to tell the story that Trump is telling.
Buck this I think these angry emails are buck Section's fault.
So word is from the White House Historian crew that
back in the day JFK, as soon as Jackie Kennedy
would leave the White House would roll in girls and
(38:30):
they would have uh uh naked swimming parties in the
White House swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
So if you think.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was scandalous, what but what
what Trump is referencing is that they would have skinny
dipping sessions when JFK was president.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
With girls that they would they would bring in.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So that pool is now covered up and it's more
than the prescoes. But uh, that is a accurate so
far as I have heard a historical rendition that Trump
was referencing there. Probably did not expect that that would
be the opening of the Third Hour, But that is
what I was talking about. JFK and Camelot and all
(39:14):
that stuff is a pure the same way that they
went with Biden doesn't have dementia.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It was a pure fabrication.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Of the Democrat aligned media, and not just then, but
a continuation, perpetuation because it created this Kennedy dynasty, so
called dynasty that led to someone like Ted Kennedy who
let a woman drown in the back of his car. Right,
these are the kind of people that the Kennedys brought
(39:44):
us in politics. And isn't there a wasn't there like
the red haired guy who was gonna be the you know,
the great hope of the Kennedys, and he gave some
like sweaty face speech after the you know what I'm
talking about. There was a young Kennedy an a member
of Congress. He was yeah, yeah, yeah, Patrick, Yes, that
sounds right, Yeah I did. Basically, they're they're a Democrat
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brand and they're protected as such. But if you actually
look at the conduct of JFK in the in the
Oval office in the White House, and as a person,
he was also a very sickly guy, needed a whole
bunch of of different controlled substances to get through the day.
This this idea that he was this strapping, handsome, you know,
(40:29):
all American guy and all this is all I'm just saying,
it's all a fabrication. Yes, this is all stuff that
was fed to people because there was no you know,
it's different. You didn't have the constant media cycle. You
didn't have so many people that have not just access,
but are able to use their own methods of capturing
information and everyone walks around. Now, think about it this way.
(40:52):
When Kennedy was actually President Clay, the press had a
fraction of the access and the ability to create content
that every single one of our listeners right now does.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yes, I mean no, the evolution. I mean look, and
it wasn't just Kennedy, right. They pretended that FDR was
not in a wheelchair. I mean that that's maybe one
of the most staggering complicit related media aspects. They pretended
that that that that FDR wasn't actually needing to be
(41:27):
pushed around in a wheelchair because because the press was
asked to do so, and well.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They also got away with with Woodrow Wilson's wife running
the White House.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Edith was basically the president of the United States because
he had such a bad stroke.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I also think that that we didn't talk about it
that much.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think that same dynamic factored in, uh with doctor
I love that we all call our doctor and just
just gosh, doctor Jill Biden. I think she recognized that
her frail husband meant that she was in a more
powerful role than a first lady certainly could or should
be generally. So that was a part rep Let's get
(42:09):
back to Trump here what he just said about this
or what he was just saying. He spoke about the shutdown.
All along there has been the things that the shutdown
has made possible as part of what the White House
can do. It's a great refutation of the no King's rally.
I might add, right, the government is shut down. The
king can't just open the government because he's not a king,
(42:31):
as we all know. It's such a stupid rally, a
stupid name. It's just not good. But back to what
Trump is saying about the shutdown. He talked about Russ Vaught,
and here's what he says about this individual and his
cutting and the prioritization underway Play thirty two.
Speaker 12 (42:47):
I will say this that we have Darth Vader. You
know darth Vader, right, Darth Vader is a man who
I think he's sitting right.
Speaker 7 (42:55):
Is that Darth stand up?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Please?
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Darth Vader stand up? Does everybody know?
Speaker 12 (43:00):
Oh this is They call him darth Vader.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I call him a fine man.
Speaker 12 (43:06):
But he's cutting Democrat priorities and they're.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Never going to get him back.
Speaker 12 (43:12):
And they've caused us, and they've really allowed us to
do it.
Speaker 7 (43:16):
And by the way, thank you doing a great job.
Speaker 12 (43:17):
I have to tell you, so really a great job.
Because many of the things that they're cutting, like the
New York Project twenty billion dollars, we're cutting it.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
They're not going to get it back.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
I mean, they're not going to get a lot of
things back.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
They may not get back. Maybe we'll talk to him
about it.
Speaker 12 (43:33):
But they're losing the things that they wanted. But many
of the things that they wanted are things that we
don't want, the things that are just so bad for
our country, and we're cutting those things out.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Clay russ Watt is the head of omb Off's management
and budget, and they're able to get in there with
the scalpel and cut some of these government programs because
of the shutdown. So another component.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Of this not only that it is just not registering
in any way that the government shut down still going on.
I understand that some of you out there are going
to have to get back pay if you're in military.
Trump is saying that he wants to make sure that
everybody gets paid again. They're going to have a press
availability for the Republican senators that are all at the
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White House right now, and we're scheduled talking with Marsha
Blackburn at the bottom of the hour, so we'll hear
what President Trump said. But I just think that they
are in such incredible difficulty here because they didn't want
to shut down. They didn't want to bend the knee
before the government protests, before the no Kings protests. And
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now a part of me thinks buck that they may
think this is advantageous for them on some small level
in Virginia and New Jersey and two close governors races.
Maybe it motivates a little bit turnout. I don't know,
but I think the idea that there was going to
be some mass rallying effect to the Democrat side has
(45:06):
certainly not been reflected in the polls, and it hasn't
been reflected in the reactions by and large, as most
people have just kind of said, yeah, there's not a
lot to this. Well, here is since we're talking about
the shutdown a little bit. The latest explanation of this
that we get from Chuck Schumer, who is really it
(45:29):
is the Schumer shutdown. I mean, this guy, more than
any other, is responsible for whether this is this is
cut twelve hit it.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
We enter another week of Donald Trump's government shutdown, and
Republicans seem happy not to work, happy not to negotiate,
happy to let healthcare premium spike for over twenty million
working and middle class Americans. Our country is staring down
the barrel of a healthcare catastrophe, and Republicans will spend
this week either vacationing or holding pep rallies at the
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White House. It's been over a month since the House
of Representatives even took a single roll called vote. That's shameful,
that's derelict. Government workers must work without getting paid. House
Republicans get paid without working.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And yet it's the humor shutdown he could say whatever
he wants about it. Clay, I don't think that's gonna work.
I also think that the more they talk about healthcare,
hold on a second. Obamacare was supposed to make everything cheaper.
Why do we have to shovel billions and billions of
dollars into Obamacare to make it even temporarily seem solvent.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
All of us are.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Paying way more than we were told we would ever
have to pay for healthcare to a large extent, because
Obamacare has failed.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
And this idea that.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Your insurance was going to be cheaper or you were
going to have more flexibility when it came to your doctors,
it has been proven to be I think, a complete
and total lie, And so everybody out there who is
dealing and I think it's all of us when you
have to go to the doctor and you get back
your bill and you say, how in the world could
it possibly have cost this much? Or how can my
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insurance premiums have risen to the level that they have.
Obamacare has actually made, as many people argued that would
be the case, everything more expensive and worse than it
would be if we had never fiddled with it at all,
and in fact kind of ties in with this. I
can't believe I'm going to give him credit here what
John Stewart said about Bernie Sanders. The Democrat solution is
(47:29):
always subsidies, and when the government causes endless funds to
be spent, John Stewart's actually making sense here. Prices rise,
This was cut fifteen.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
The Democratic solutions have never been to directly provides. It's
always been a subsidy, absolutely, rital man. But what happens
is when the government promises endless funds to insurance companies
or private universities without any cost control. And Trump seems
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to understand this price has rised far beyond the rate
of inflation. And we've seen it in tuition, and we've
seen it in pharmaceutical and we've seen it in healthcare.
So my question is will Democrats recognize the poison pill
that they've often placed into well intentioned policy.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
They don't understand basic economics. And I think, to John
Stewart's credit, he's elucidating that Democrats don't understand market based
policies and get all of their prescriptions wrong, which ends
up costing us all more.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Let's play the Bernie response to that on the other
side of this, you can get Bernie Sanders. It's gonna
be like, but the more we spent comes from the
millionaires and the billion.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Is it's its gonna be something like that. There's gonna
be some non psychical I like your argument. I think
that is likely to be proven.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Suru. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
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to have some foolish thing to say, and you'll stick
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll be Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off
right now, day twenty one of the shutdown. It's a
real shutdown situation they are having here. We will get
into some of the back end. Ford pretty straightforward Democrats
view the obstructions what they used to call it when
you didn't do whatever President Obama wanted. And you'll remember
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that obstruction is their only game plan right now. And
if that means that they don't have anything beyond it,
so be it. We can have a conversation about that.
President Trump is doing a two hundred and fifty million
dollars White House ballroom renovation, which most exciting of all
(00:45):
is that it's just a matter of time before mister
Clay Travis puts on his dancing shoes and shows you
all the crazy, funky moves that he's got at some
White House function. You know he's gonna step on the
dance floor. Make John Travolta in his prime.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Look. I would just say for.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Radio show host particularly white guys who are radio show host,
I would put myself in the top five percent best dancers.
I don't know who else is actually really talented. And
by the way, I'm not you. I wasn't practicing TikTok
dance moves by myself in my apartment during COVID. So
it may be the case that you're in the one
percent or the point one percent, But I don't think
(01:26):
that radio show host are renowned for their elite dance ability.
So I feel confident. Much like when you came into
the sports broadcasting the press boxes and I said, hey,
it doesn't take a lot to be a decent looking
sports writer. I don't think it takes a lot to
be a decent dancer in the radio world either.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, there might be a forget a stake bet, there
might have to be a dance on video, put it
on social and TikTok bet at some point. Now that
we got the White House ballroom going, but that's part
of Trump's renovation of the White House that has been underway.
We've got that discussion. HAMAS has broken the ceasefire. That
is not a surprise to me. I would assume to
(02:10):
any of you HAMAS is going to continue on doing
what it does. It has not changed anything about what
it is, and there's going to have to be a
further reckoning. They cannot allow Hamas leadership to stay in place.
There can be no peace with Hamas. That is what
we are seeing. That is not something that, like I said,
(02:31):
comes out of the blue for anybody who's been paying
attention to the region. But we can have some updates
for you on that as we go. Also, Judge Janine
is taking it, taking it to the mat in defense
of mister big Balls.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
What's his actual name?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I know him as only as big Balls sos to
be known as I guess in the grand scheme of things.
But yes, let me see if I can find his
It's very funny what his actual name is. He was
beaten up in the in the attacks, and he's a
great American. He stepped in to help somebody who's being carjacked.
(03:10):
Carjacked by teenagers, mind you, a mob of them, Edward
Chorsteine Chorustine. There we go, aka big Ball. Yes, such
Janin is having none of it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We shall discuss that Karine Jean Pierre is out there
making the case for her book to people.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I think all these Biden books.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You notice, Clay, You're not even hearing anyone talking about
Kamala's book anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You're trolling who read it one hundred and seven days? Yeah,
that's called being a team player, Clay. Some of us
are out there. Some of us are out there in
the grove or whatever at Old Miss, partying and enjoying football,
surrounded by great Americans and beautiful ladies. Some of us
want a gouger eyeballs out with a spoon because we
(03:58):
are stuck.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Reading one hundred and seven days.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I'm just saying, you know, there are those of
us who are on the all expenses cruise and those
of us who are taking grenades in the trenches on
this one. Nonetheless, nobody, nobody is talking about Kamala's book
and Creie Jean Pierre's book comes down to I am
so incapable of assessing what is going on around me
(04:23):
that I really had no idea that Joe Biden had dementia.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I really just didn't know. I almost think that's worse.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think it would be better to say, you know what,
I believe that Trump is so bad for America that
I was willing to be a part of a big lie.
At least there'd be some integrity in admitting that. Pretending
you are so out of it and really kind of
dumb that you have no idea that anyway, Well, I don't.
We can get more into that discussion. I'm gonna start
with this. People are getting very testy over Some people
(04:53):
are getting testy over the New York City mayor's race
situation as the oncoming collectivist freight train of Mamdaniism is
getting closer and closer to my beloved New York City,
and Curtis Sliwa is staying in all the calls, including
(05:15):
from a lot of New York based commentators play. A
lot of people are saying, Curtis, look is you gotta
save New York from from quote, I mean from a
Mamdani Cuomo's not great, but it will be better. Uh,
Clomo's actually pretty awful. This is really trading an F
student for like a C minus student, I think is the.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Fairest way to put it. Here is what Sliwa has
to say about.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
First of all, Bill Ackman, a billionaire activist, h centrist guy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I wouldn't say he's right wing. Uh here he is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, Slee was saying he that guy needs to go
take a long walk off a short pier play seven.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well number one. Ackman is a jerk, as he been right.
Yet here's a guy who goes a Newport, Rhode Island
and thinks he's a professional penance player. Come on, acman,
stay in the lane. Does he know anything about politics? No?
Does he live in New York City, No, he lives
in Chaprika, the whitest suburb of America where even.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The lawn jockey's are white. He may know Wall Street,
he may know Hedge funds. He has been wrong every
step of the way with the billionaires. So let's say
people come to the conclusion if somehow I lose and
we know Andrew Como's lost, he's already tossed in the town.
Oh it's because of you, Curtis, Because it really it's
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because of the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Let me say, who created rohan An Tommy, who embraced him,
who nursed him, who supported him.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Clay, he is not buying into the argument you have
been making, among many others, for the necessity of his dropout.
He's saying, Look, it's all the democrats fault. I'm staying
in it to win it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's not wrong about it being all the Democrats' fault.
What he is wrong about is if if he stays
in it, all he's doing is guaranteeing Mamdanni is going
to be elected the next mayor of New York City
here in thirteen days. And I've made the argument, I
really do believe this that Mamdanni winning is simultaneously the
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worst thing that could happen to New York City and
the best thing that could happen to the rest of
the country, because it makes Mamdanni in AOC the face
of the Democrat Party socialist communists in New York City,
and New York City, as nice of a place as
it is, does not play well in all of the
battleground states, the places where control of the Senate is
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going to be determined, and the place is where control
of the House is going to be determined. So with
that in mind, there is an argument that Kurtisly was
actually doing what is best for the Republican Party by
refusing to drop out. I don't think there's any argument
at all that he's doing what is best for New
York City because his continued UH involvement in this race
(08:02):
has continued.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Staying in this race.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Ensures that Mam Donnie is going to be elected the
next mayor of New York City, and then it becomes
a case buck of you just have to hope that mom,
Donnie is so incompetent that he isn't able to implement
the things that he has promised he is going to
be implemable.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This is my silver This is my silver lining. That's
the only silver lining is that he's so unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think Eric Adams had a similar but different problem
in that he had some good ideas on public safety
but lacked the bureaucratic skills to implement them. Mam Donnie,
it's it's a different problem. What he wants to do
is bad, but he may be incapable of doing it.
Here we have Curtis lee With continuing on this is
(08:50):
Hot Tip Nate Friedman podcast. I've never heard of Nate,
but here this is from his podcast. But here's Curtis
Leewa making his case Clay that this idea that all
the Cuomo people the rather that his people will just
vote Cuomo, is also detached from what he sees as
reality play eight.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And how dare you people who know nothing about politics,
suggest that everybody who's going to vote for me is
suddenly gonna be reborn we love Angel Cuomo. He killed
all these elderlys that sexual harassment. He told conservatives and
Republicans in twenty fourteen, if you're a conservative and you
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believe in right to life and the Second Amendment, you
have no place in New York.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You need to leave.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
This is the result of the Democrat self destruction.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I'm supposed to help them. How come they don't
help themselves? Clay, what do you make of that? Again?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I don't disagree with anything that he's arguing. The question
is is Cuomo likely to be better for New York City,
as awful as he has been in the past than
Mom Donnie.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do I think that Republicans should have to save Democrats
from the consequences of their own choices?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And again, this is where I come back, and I
understand we got a lot of wr listeners. This is
where I come back to. It can simultaneously be the
best and worst thing for the Republican Party for Mamdani
to win. I think it's the worst thing for anyone
who is saying in New York City. I think it's
arguably the best thing that could happen for anyone who
(10:28):
is saying in the country. And this is why I've said,
sometimes you just got to let the island go under
the water. Best case scenario to your point, Buck, he's
so incompetent that he can't actually change anything or implement
any of his ideas. Worst case scenario he does in
New York City, really, as one of the crown jewels
of America, starts to reflect some of the same issues
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that we have seen happen in many of the top
capitals across the West, which is all of the choices
they're making are fine. He's starting to catch up with them.
Whether it's London, whether it's Paris, you name the big
Western civilization capitals. I think they're making increasingly left wing
choices that are bad for the overall populations there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Part of the problem is that leftists have a much
higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a
lot of the sane people us realize. Right, San Francisco
should have known twenty years ago, hey what are you doing.
You're ruining a great American city. Now it seems they
finally have a more sane mayor, finally, but it took
(11:34):
way too long. I worry that something that that'll happen
in New York. But here, just for one last, one
last bit of the argument, Clay, here's Curtis Sliwa telling
Andrew Cuomo that it's on him to go out and
convert Sliwa voters.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Play nine.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Andrew Cuomo failed to everybody in that primary.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
He even admitted it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Now he's basically saying, I can't win without Sliwa votes.
Where are your votes? Why did you spend your money
and things? Got millions from the billionaires millions? Go out
get your home vote. Conversely, we're voters. But for me
to drop out, I represent a major party line. I
have people running under me, counsel people, judges. They put
(12:12):
their heart and soul into it. They support me. I
have more more donations than Andrew Cmo does matching funds.
So you know something.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
This is called voting.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Since when do we not let people vote billionaires determine
the next mayor. If they don't like it, they can leave.
They have options. Blue Coylar working class people don't. Those
are the people I'm representing, not Andrew Cmo play.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
His best argument, I think is actually what he said
about the down ticket on the Republican side, or rather
the one that we hadn't really discussed here. And I
do think there's merit to that. But he's also going
to make sure that Mam Donnie wins this election.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
A part of me makes me think he spends so
much time attacking Cuomo. Has Mom Donnie promised him some
sort of job. It sounds crazy, but is there something
I don't Is there something that curtisly wants in terms?
And I don't even think it would be bad politics
from Mom Donnie? Why otherwise, why would you stay in
(13:15):
It's It then becomes almost entirely a vanity project.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Maybe he hates personally Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Maybe they've had a relationship in the past. That is
a lot of people do just to a lot of
people really personally dislike Andrew, So he may not personally
dislike Mom Donnie. And this may be personal on Curtis
Lee's behalf. But again, in thirteen days, the data is
going to be out there, and I think you can
look at it and we'll see whether Mom Donnie wins
(13:43):
a majority of this trio or does the Do the
numbers reflect that if there had been a one V one,
Mom Donnie would have lost because right now, as we're
speaking to all of you, Mom Donnie keeps setting new
highs buck in the life likelihood of being able to
be the nominee and to win this race. And so
(14:05):
long as that continues, I think that we're in a really,
really tough spot for the city of New York. Now
positive is there does seem to be some good momentum
for Cidarelli on the Jersey race, and certainly Jason Miarez
and win. Some seers I think have made up some
(14:26):
ground in the state of Virginia as that race is going.
But right now you have a ninety three percent chance
in all of the sort of prediction markets that Mamdanie's
gonna win. And if you think Sliva was gonna win,
because we get these calls every time, you can one
hundred times your money in thirteen days. So this would
(14:48):
be one of the most epic upsets in the history
of upsets. All of you should go vote, don't listen
to us, make your voice heard. But I think the
voices of New York are unfortunately going to be heard,
and they're going to be put a Communist into office.
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Saving America, one thought at a time. Clay Travis and
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Speaker 3 (16:25):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We have
got thirteen days until the New York City mayor grace,
until the governor's race in New Jersey, until the governor's
race in Virginia. And I woke up this morning as
one of the few people who still buys print newspapers,
and I'm in New York City, still flying back home tonight,
(16:47):
And the front page of the New York Post, Buck,
which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, says, just walk away, Bray.
Even allies tell Sleewood to drop mayor bid. Don't let
Zoran win. And you know you grew up in New
York City. The tabloids don't have the same impact necessarily
(17:10):
that they used to do back in the day. But
as the conservative leaning tabloid. When the Post puts the
Republican mayor nominee on the front page of the paper
and says basically making fun of him. Get out of
this race. You have no chance of winning. The pressure
on Slee what to drop out continues to rise. You
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grew up in New York City, Buck, Do you think
there's any way Curtis Slee what drops out? Or do
you think at this point, thirteen days out, it doesn't
matter because early voting starts. I think in a few days.
If he's not going to drop out in the next
couple of days, it's over. I don't see him dropping
out at all, and I see Zoron Mamdani as the
next mayor of New York. I'm just basing this on
(17:52):
the polls and all of the now. Can we also
just people say, what about the polls with Trump? Polls
can be wrong within in three or four points, and
in a presidential election, that makes all the difference. It's
very rare for every single polster to be wrong by
thirty points.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, there's a difference.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, that is just to get this because I'm seeing
you guys are annoying Mamdan. I'm not annoying anything. I'm
the one who thinks it's insane that Mamdani could become
the mayor of New York. I'm the one who wants
to stop, to do whatever we can through this election
process to make him not the mayor. But unfortunately the
numbers are the numbers. You're talking about an eight to
one Democrat to Republican city, and no variation of the
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numbers coming even close to a Cuomo win, even if
rather with with Curtis Lee was staying in.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's no variation that I've seen that does that. The
thing that makes me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Pretty sanguine about it all, Clay, not a seguine as you, sir,
but senguine about it all, is I don't think Cuomo
would be good. Yeah, I maybe not. Insane is not
the same thing as good. I think he'd be a
very bad mayor. And and in some respect people keep
talking about the COVID thing.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He was the no bail, no jail guy.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It was Andrew Cuomo who was like, you know what,
let's let that maniac out who just punks the old
lady on the subway. Let's let him out, even with
the fiftieth time he's been arrested. Nope, no bail. That's
the Cuomo routine. This is where blue.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Cities leave themselves with no real option Andrew Cuomo, who
was one of the worst governors during COVID, is now
the savior supposedly of New York City, which is why
shining light in a dark room potentially thirteen days from now,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
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Speaker 1 (21:22):
Wayne, Baby Fort Wayne, here we come.
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We're gonna be meeting a lot of you in that area.
We look forward to that event, and if you are
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see us as we are rolling through. All right, Buck,
you mentioned it, you'll leave me, and you have no
idea what might come on. I thought I was making
the least controversial argument that's ever taken place. Let me
reierate what happened this Chicago area teacher. I'm sure you
saw the video book As the No Kings protests were
(22:09):
going on, a Trump affiliated car is driving by to
Turning Point, USA, driving by, and this elementary school teacher
celebrates by putting her hand to her throat as if
she is she's mimicking the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Disgusting, I mean really and psychotic, disgusting stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And I said as a part of the argument that look,
I'm a free speech guy, but there is a morality
component to being an elementary school teacher, and you can
be fired for violating that morality component. And as an example,
as an example, I said, for instance, I think most
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people would not want their kids elementary school teacher to
be a stripper and I can't believe it, but we
have been we have been deluged by people that actually
disagreed with me.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Uh so uh here we have a widebray.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Some of them are very funny, but I thought we
could play some of these, some of these talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And uh Brandon.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I also said, by the way, that there's a middle
ground right where if you worked as a waiter or
waitress at Applebee's, I think that you could clearly probably
have both jobs.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
A lot of teachers have multiple jobs. Maybe you work
in the summer when you're out of school. And I said,
but Hooters might be a more of a middle ground, right,
like where people could agree or disagree Brandon and Michigan says, uh,
he'd go to a lot more school activities if his
kids teacher also worked at Hooters. This is bbe Brandon
weighing in Travis.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I'm just gonna say, if my kids teacher worked at Hooters,
I'd probably be a lot more interested and going to
conferences and going to school activities.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All right, thank you, Brandon.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And then Ken in California, he's fired up at me.
I'm my opinion that you can't be a stripper in
an elementary school teacher.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He's mad. He says, Hey, Clay, you're wrong. CC.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
You know you can't be for the First Amendment and
boobs and give this teacher criticism over her First Amendment
right for expression. Yes it's abhorrent, Yes it's tacky, Yes
it's despicable. Hate speech just still got to be a
protective speech, whether we.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Like it or not.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
And I don't like it, but she did it, and
it's not against the law.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This is I'm gone for one hour.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I don't know you have the keys to the car solo,
and our entire inbox today.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Is about boobs. But I mean, I am of the
opinion I said this on the show.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think Bucky you would sign off, like if we
employed someone on The Clay and Buck Show that celebrated
Charlie kurr assassination. I believe in the First Amendment. The
First Amendment doesn't mean that there aren't consequences for your behavior.
And if you are a public school teacher, elementary school,
I don't think you should be teaching kids if you
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are going around publicly celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I wouldn't want my third grader, I wouldn't want to
walk in there and know that she had been at
a No King's protest doing celebratory gestures having to do
with Charlie Kirk's murder, because I would say that would
influence her teaching. To all the people who are saying
this about that teacher, for example, these are it's always
(25:40):
situational with leftists. They want what they want, how they
want it, when they want it. There's no principle, there's
no rule that we can all be held to.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I just give you this.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
If Jimmy Kimmel, or if this teacher had had been
shouting a racial slur, a racial slur that you're never
allowed to say, would we be hearing about free speech arguments.
Would they be saying, oh, but you know it's free speech,
you're allowed to say that. No, you're not right. So
(26:11):
where is the line here? The line is what is
abhorrence to the people that you are either serving, in
the case of a teacher, the community you're serving, or
to a very unfunny late night talk show host who's
representing a broader corporate brand. And this is true of anybody.
I might add, you don't make You don't get to
make a free speech argument. If you walked into in
(26:32):
a tech while you're working for Lumberg and you told
Lumberg what you really think of him when he's like,
would you come in and work on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Great movie?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And you started great movie and you started just dropping
all kinds of curse words and telling them what you
really think of him and his stupid suspenders and the
whole thing, and he fired you. You don't have a
First Amendment argument. I just feel like people intentionally confuse
this thing now where you are entitled. If you are
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advancing leftist ideology in some capacity, the First Amendment means
you have an ironclad right to not be fired from
your job or have there be any consequences for it.
Then people say, well, what about when the cancel culture stuff.
The cancel culture stuff was unreasonable and irrational firing of
people for saying entirely valid and normal and things that
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half the country agrees with.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, and look.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Again, I think that public school elementary school teachers, which
are being funded by all of our taxpayers, I don't
think it's too high of a standard of behavior to
expect that you're not going to be in public, celebrating
a public assassination of a figure, And so I think
(27:50):
if you did that and Rachel Maddow had gotten shot
and you are a super right winger, which I don't
think people would even really celebrate it, the consequence on
this same side, you shouldn't be celebrating political assassinations and
making a living teaching young kids.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Abody who's defending anybody who's I mean, anyone who's defending
this particular teacher who made this abhorren gesture. If that
teacher had walked, you know, if that teacher was walking
the streets with a you know, George Floyd got what
he deserved. He was a convicted felon drug addict, you know,
written on or teacher. Would any even making the case that,
(28:29):
you know, that's okay free speech, No, they would not.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
They would all be saying.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, but the racism and the bad things, and they
can't be corrupting the mind of the youth and all
this other stuff. So this is why I found the
Jimmy Kimmel argument, which ties into this too, just absurd
on its face. It's like he said something that pissed
off a lot of people. He doesn't have a First
Amendment right to keep that job that he has forever.
(28:53):
There are a million things. Not only do we have
FCC regulations here on radio, there are a million things
that have either of us said, go into a lot
of trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Really, it's you know, have you betrayed your audience, right,
or have you betrayed a large enough portion of your
audience with what you've said or outraged them with what
you've said that you cease to be able to function
as somebody who they can trust and who is still
a viable show. Well, I mean, this is the real
What was happening on the other side and the cancel
(29:22):
culture wars was people were creating a fiction that there
was outrage at somebody. This happened to rush outrage at
somebody for something that was said, and then there were
actions taken based on the lie that this was actually
so outrageous.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Look, I think if you went back in time and
you were looking at the Jimmy Kimmel thing, the FCC
weighing in, I think actually made it a bigger story
than it would have been if nobody had weighed in
at all on the government level, because then they said, oh, well,
this is government pressure and coercion. Look, the reality is
(29:59):
he missed four days and now he's back on the
air and there is virtually no discussion about this.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
But if But that also tells you that there was
no real fear of government coercion, because they wouldn't have
just put him on the air a few days later.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So that was a pretext. The whole thing was.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Again that's why I said, if you didn't say anything
about Roseanne or Gina Carano when they were canceled at Disney,
which almost no one did. We talked about that quite
a lot. Then I don't understand how you decide that
Jimmy Kimmel is the line in the sand that you
will draw. I mean the ACLU getting involved in everybody else.
But yes, your bigger picture point is an important one.
The government restricting your speech is what you should be
(30:38):
concerned about. That's actually what Alex Berenson's lawsuit, which I
think is still pending, is about, because that's what Joe
Biden did. Joe Biden went to Facebook, and he went
to Twitter, and he went to YouTube, and that they threatened,
They said, if you don't take down these posts, that
we don't like relating to COVID. There's going to be
(31:00):
a punishment. And now everybody suddenly is circling around and
saying what you and I said for a long time,
which brings me to cut twenty eight. You remember buck
in New York City when Kyrie Irving refused to get
the COVID shot in Brooklyn, and they wouldn't allow him
to play in the games, but they would allow him
(31:23):
to sit in the crowd court side.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Do you remember that absurdity of COVID.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
They wouldn't let him play in the game, but they
would allow him to sit on the court and watch
the games. That was the line that they were drawing
at that point in time. I remember being in line
for the Columbus Circle, New York City Whole Foods peak
pandemic time, and they were enforcing with Prussian efficiency six
(31:51):
feet of distancing between people standing in the line. Yes,
And then you got into the place. You got into
the Whole Foods and it was absolutely mobbed with people
like shoulder to shoulder and all the aisles and everything,
you know, unlimited.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Time to shop, do whatever you want to do. So
outside where you actually cannot spread the virus as an
open an open air, six feet of distancing inside, shoulder
to shoulder with worthless masks on. And you know, this
is all you need to know about. Somebody is a
public figure, as a leader, as a commentator, how were
(32:26):
they during COVID? It was the stress test and all
these respects, which just brings me full circle to Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He was awful.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He was as bad as Gavin Newsom, He was as
bad as Gretchen Whitmer. He was absolutely terrible. In fact,
I think you could argue he was the worst because
he really set the tone of panic and authoritarianism alongside it.
That then all these other states followed because New York
got hit first. And here to close out to tie
in all of this. As the story has altered, Stephen A. Smith,
(32:55):
ESPN's most prominent employee, now says, hey, Kyrie Irving was right.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
He should have never taken the COVID shot.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And they came after Kyrie Irving, they came after Aaron Rodgers,
they came after everybody who was in athletics that refused.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And I do give a little.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Bit of credit to Steven A because he's now pointing
out that that Kyrie was right, whereas most people out
there are still saying nothing at all.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Cut twenty eight Krry's a good brother.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
We used to butt hands because he misworked you damn much.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
And I'm like, yo, man, this brother's electrifud. I want
to see this brother dancing on a basketball court. I
want to hear, no, you got no COVID vaccine. You
could chance on the court and he see you.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Now. Obviously, in hindsight, the brother right.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Because we see all the conspiracy theories that come out,
and props to him for look for seeing.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Fat in the first sight to see that. We didn't
see that at the time.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
And then but you also have to understand, I'm living
in the world where you got cats making thirty eight
forty forty five million, you got GMS.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
And owners complaining about it, and you got billionaires.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Looking me in the face of saying, yo, stephen A,
I took that damn bad the hell of not to
take the vaccine, and we're living in a country where
the government was imposing all of that on us.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
So I'm sitting there going like this, we all taking
the risk.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Kyrie said, no, props to him, but I didn't view
it that way.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So he was right.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Most people won't even acknowledge that Kyrie Irving and Aaron
Rodgers and other prominent athletes who said I'm not going
to get the COVID shot were in fact correct. But
it's just one of very many things that to your point,
Andrew Cuomo, who is now supposed to be the savior
of New York, was one billion percent wrong on.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
He was terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
This is why I can't get that energized about the
anything to defeat. I think Sleeva probably feels this way too.
I haven't heard him say this, but we're supposed to
go and break out, you know, and and break the glass,
do anything we can so that Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Can be the mayor.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, he's horrible, Yes, I get it. I think I
think he hates Cuomo. By the way, we are right here,
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
We also have Trump just speaking a few moments ago.
As you know, there's a and the team pointed this
out to me, privately funded renovation. Really a remodel, a
demo and remodel of the East Wing of the White
House to accommodate a ballroom that, as some people are saying,
(36:53):
going to be the most fabulous ballroom of all ballrooms.
It's gonna be spectacular, I'm sure. And this is President
Trump speaking about the.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
West Wings history and.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
More.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Play thirty.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
This is, as you see over here, the Presidential Walk
of Fame. And we had this long wall with half
windows because that used to be a swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
On the other side of the wall. That was the swimming.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
Pool where Jackie would say, I hear women inside? Are
women inside? Quite a famous I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
This was a part of a movie.
Speaker 12 (37:31):
And the Secret Service said, no, ma'am, there's no women inside.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
Ma'am.
Speaker 12 (37:35):
I'm sorry, ma'am, you're gonna have to move along. But
I hear women inside. No, ma'am, you'll have to move along, ma'am.
So that was the famous swimming pool. Now it's even worse.
It's for the media. They covered the pull up, they
covered the pull.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Up, and now it's for the media.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
And I think we have a small representative group.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I don't think they allowed.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
The rest of them. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
What happened.
Speaker 12 (37:58):
They're all on the other side of the wall, believe it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That is one hell. So the story.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Should I tell the story that Trump is telling? I
guess I have to tell the story that Trump is telling.
Buck this I think these angry emails are buck Section's fault.
So word is from the White House Historian crew that
back in the day JFK, as soon as Jackie Kennedy
would leave the White House would roll in girls and
(38:30):
they would have uh uh naked swimming parties in the
White House swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
So if you think.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was scandalous, what but what
what Trump is referencing is that they would have skinny
dipping sessions when JFK was president.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
With girls that they would they would bring in.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So that pool is now covered up and it's more
than the prescoes. But uh, that is a accurate so
far as I have heard a historical rendition that Trump
was referencing there. Probably did not expect that that would
be the opening of the Third Hour, But that is
what I was talking about. JFK and Camelot and all
(39:14):
that stuff is a pure the same way that they
went with Biden doesn't have dementia.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It was a pure fabrication.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Of the Democrat aligned media, and not just then, but
a continuation, perpetuation because it created this Kennedy dynasty, so
called dynasty that led to someone like Ted Kennedy who
let a woman drown in the back of his car. Right,
these are the kind of people that the Kennedys brought
(39:44):
us in politics. And isn't there a wasn't there like
the red haired guy who was gonna be the you know,
the great hope of the Kennedys, and he gave some
like sweaty face speech after the you know what I'm
talking about. There was a young Kennedy an a member
of Congress. He was yeah, yeah, yeah, Patrick, Yes, that
sounds right, Yeah I did. Basically, they're they're a Democrat
(40:09):
brand and they're protected as such. But if you actually
look at the conduct of JFK in the in the
Oval office in the White House, and as a person,
he was also a very sickly guy, needed a whole
bunch of of different controlled substances to get through the day.
This this idea that he was this strapping, handsome, you know,
(40:29):
all American guy and all this is all I'm just saying,
it's all a fabrication. Yes, this is all stuff that
was fed to people because there was no you know,
it's different. You didn't have the constant media cycle. You
didn't have so many people that have not just access,
but are able to use their own methods of capturing
information and everyone walks around. Now, think about it this way.
(40:52):
When Kennedy was actually President Clay, the press had a
fraction of the access and the ability to create content
that every single one of our listeners right now does.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yes, I mean no, the evolution. I mean look, and
it wasn't just Kennedy, right. They pretended that FDR was
not in a wheelchair. I mean that that's maybe one
of the most staggering complicit related media aspects. They pretended
that that that that FDR wasn't actually needing to be
(41:27):
pushed around in a wheelchair because because the press was
asked to do so, and well.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They also got away with with Woodrow Wilson's wife running
the White House.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Edith was basically the president of the United States because
he had such a bad stroke.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I also think that that we didn't talk about it
that much.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think that same dynamic factored in, uh with doctor
I love that we all call our doctor and just
just gosh, doctor Jill Biden. I think she recognized that
her frail husband meant that she was in a more
powerful role than a first lady certainly could or should
be generally. So that was a part rep Let's get
(42:09):
back to Trump here what he just said about this
or what he was just saying. He spoke about the shutdown.
All along there has been the things that the shutdown
has made possible as part of what the White House
can do. It's a great refutation of the no King's rally.
I might add, right, the government is shut down. The
king can't just open the government because he's not a king,
(42:31):
as we all know. It's such a stupid rally, a
stupid name. It's just not good. But back to what
Trump is saying about the shutdown. He talked about Russ Vaught,
and here's what he says about this individual and his
cutting and the prioritization underway Play thirty two.
Speaker 12 (42:47):
I will say this that we have Darth Vader. You
know darth Vader, right, Darth Vader is a man who
I think he's sitting right.
Speaker 7 (42:55):
Is that Darth stand up?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Please?
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Darth Vader stand up? Does everybody know?
Speaker 12 (43:00):
Oh this is They call him darth Vader.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I call him a fine man.
Speaker 12 (43:06):
But he's cutting Democrat priorities and they're.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Never going to get him back.
Speaker 12 (43:12):
And they've caused us, and they've really allowed us to
do it.
Speaker 7 (43:16):
And by the way, thank you doing a great job.
Speaker 12 (43:17):
I have to tell you, so really a great job.
Because many of the things that they're cutting, like the
New York Project twenty billion dollars, we're cutting it.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
They're not going to get it back.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
I mean, they're not going to get a lot of
things back.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
They may not get back. Maybe we'll talk to him
about it.
Speaker 12 (43:33):
But they're losing the things that they wanted. But many
of the things that they wanted are things that we
don't want, the things that are just so bad for
our country, and we're cutting those things out.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Clay russ Watt is the head of omb Off's management
and budget, and they're able to get in there with
the scalpel and cut some of these government programs because
of the shutdown. So another component.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Of this not only that it is just not registering
in any way that the government shut down still going on.
I understand that some of you out there are going
to have to get back pay if you're in military.
Trump is saying that he wants to make sure that
everybody gets paid again. They're going to have a press
availability for the Republican senators that are all at the
(44:22):
White House right now, and we're scheduled talking with Marsha
Blackburn at the bottom of the hour, so we'll hear
what President Trump said. But I just think that they
are in such incredible difficulty here because they didn't want
to shut down. They didn't want to bend the knee
before the government protests, before the no Kings protests. And
(44:45):
now a part of me thinks buck that they may
think this is advantageous for them on some small level
in Virginia and New Jersey and two close governors races.
Maybe it motivates a little bit turnout. I don't know,
but I think the idea that there was going to
be some mass rallying effect to the Democrat side has
(45:06):
certainly not been reflected in the polls, and it hasn't
been reflected in the reactions by and large, as most
people have just kind of said, yeah, there's not a
lot to this. Well, here is since we're talking about
the shutdown a little bit. The latest explanation of this
that we get from Chuck Schumer, who is really it
(45:29):
is the Schumer shutdown. I mean, this guy, more than
any other, is responsible for whether this is this is
cut twelve hit it.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
We enter another week of Donald Trump's government shutdown, and
Republicans seem happy not to work, happy not to negotiate,
happy to let healthcare premium spike for over twenty million
working and middle class Americans. Our country is staring down
the barrel of a healthcare catastrophe, and Republicans will spend
this week either vacationing or holding pep rallies at the
(45:58):
White House. It's been over a month since the House
of Representatives even took a single roll called vote. That's shameful,
that's derelict. Government workers must work without getting paid. House
Republicans get paid without working.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And yet it's the humor shutdown he could say whatever
he wants about it. Clay, I don't think that's gonna work.
I also think that the more they talk about healthcare,
hold on a second. Obamacare was supposed to make everything cheaper.
Why do we have to shovel billions and billions of
dollars into Obamacare to make it even temporarily seem solvent.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
All of us are.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Paying way more than we were told we would ever
have to pay for healthcare to a large extent, because
Obamacare has failed.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
And this idea that.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Your insurance was going to be cheaper or you were
going to have more flexibility when it came to your doctors,
it has been proven to be I think, a complete
and total lie, And so everybody out there who is
dealing and I think it's all of us when you
have to go to the doctor and you get back
your bill and you say, how in the world could
it possibly have cost this much? Or how can my
(47:06):
insurance premiums have risen to the level that they have.
Obamacare has actually made, as many people argued that would
be the case, everything more expensive and worse than it
would be if we had never fiddled with it at all,
and in fact kind of ties in with this. I
can't believe I'm going to give him credit here what
John Stewart said about Bernie Sanders. The Democrat solution is
(47:29):
always subsidies, and when the government causes endless funds to
be spent, John Stewart's actually making sense here. Prices rise,
This was cut fifteen.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
The Democratic solutions have never been to directly provides. It's
always been a subsidy, absolutely, rital man. But what happens
is when the government promises endless funds to insurance companies
or private universities without any cost control. And Trump seems
(48:01):
to understand this price has rised far beyond the rate
of inflation. And we've seen it in tuition, and we've
seen it in pharmaceutical and we've seen it in healthcare.
So my question is will Democrats recognize the poison pill
that they've often placed into well intentioned policy.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
They don't understand basic economics. And I think, to John
Stewart's credit, he's elucidating that Democrats don't understand market based
policies and get all of their prescriptions wrong, which ends
up costing us all more.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Let's play the Bernie response to that on the other
side of this, you can get Bernie Sanders. It's gonna
be like, but the more we spent comes from the
millionaires and the billion.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Is it's its gonna be something like that. There's gonna
be some non psychical I like your argument. I think
that is likely to be proven.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Suru. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I'm just guessing, but economic illiterate Bernie Sanders is going
to have some foolish thing to say, and you'll stick
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