BONUS POD: 'No One Said Anything' as Warning Signs Emerge Online from Charlie Kirk's Investigation

• Warning Signs Ignored:
  The suspect allegedly showed multiple warning signs before the shooting, including becoming more political, distancing himself from coworkers during political discussions, and openly expressing intentions to harm Charlie Kirk. Friends, family, and even coworkers reportedly noticed this but may not have taken it seriously.

• The Shooting & Evidence:
  After firing the fatal shot, video footage shows the suspect escaping by jumping off a building. Investigators recovered forensic evidence from the scene, including DNA on a towel wrapped around the firearm, a screwdriver, and potentially on the rifle itself. These DNA samples matched the suspect, confirming his involvement.

• The Note & Motive:
  A note was reportedly left by the suspect, stating he had the opportunity to kill Kirk and intended to take it. Though the note was destroyed, forensic traces and interviews confirmed its existence and content. The motive is tied to political ideology, which investigators say "infected him and had taken over."

• Investigation Challenges:
  Law enforcement officials emphasized the need to determine whether people in the suspect’s circle knew about his intentions and ignored them, or dismissed them as jokes. Accountability for those who failed to act is being considered.

• Political & Legal Dimensions:
  The Utah governor, Spencer Cox, noted that the suspect had clear left-leaning political beliefs and expressed dislike for Kirk. The confirmation of forensic evidence and DNA ties the suspect directly to the crime, opening the possibility of the death penalty.

• Praise for Law Enforcement:
  The document also contains praise for the FBI, local authorities, and figures like Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, and Donald Trump for their roles in handling the case.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
And then something happened to him over a fairly short
period of time. Looks like he was radicalized over the internet,
and it's radicalized on the left. He's a left, a
lot of problems with the left, and they get protected
and they shouldn't be protected. But as you understand, I
think very well from the Tony new question.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with
Ben ferguson.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good Tuesday morning, it's so nice to have you with
us on the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got
one big story and it involves law enforcement, the FBI
looking into individuals who appeared to have known about Charlie
Kirk's assassination beforehand. And we also have new DNA evidence
tying the shooter to the crime scene. All right, I

(00:44):
want to take a moment and I want to talk
to you real quick about what you can do to
help the people in Israel. It was nearly two years
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(01:05):
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That's if CJ dot org. It's the forty seven Morning
Update and it starts right now. Story number one FBI
Deputy Director Dan Bonngino coming out telling Fox News that

(03:02):
there appears to have been multiple warning signs that pointed
to the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination prior to that
shooting taking place. Speaking to Bill Himmer, Bongino said, not
only does there appear to have been multiple warning signs,
but there were people in the suspect's network, friends and

(03:23):
family who had stated that he become more political. He
went on to say, I believe some of his co
workers said that he had kind of detached himself when
the topic of politics came up and walked away from them.
He added that it seems ideology had infected him and
had taken over. I want you to hear more of

(03:43):
what the FBI Deputy director had to say on Fox
about what we know about him, how we were able
to track him, the forensic that were involved. Listen carefully
to what he had to say.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, after he fired that single fatal shot, we've got
the video of him jumping off the back side of
the building. Where is the gun when he drops fifteen
feet down to the grass below.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Well, if you look at the video, the gun is
you'll see in the back of the when you watch
in the video right there, it appears from the video
here that the gun is either in the backpack or
on him when he jumps down. This is where, by
the way, this part of the video, this is where
we got a significant portion of the forensic evidence in

(04:29):
the case which we had to expedite. We had a
number of assets, including fixed wing assets, to be able
to fly if obviously Salt Lake and that specific area
in Provo is not around the corner from FBI labs.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It was difficult, but.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
We were able during that scene him grabbing that particular
side of the building and jumping down, we were able
to gather a significant amount of forensic information which we
expedited back to the lab, which was the key, I
think piece of information that we were able to crack
this thing open.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Oka. Looking at that video, it's hard to see the
weapon and that's why the question is still obvious to
me today. Cash Bettel said earlier today that he expressed
to someone that he had an opportunity to take out
the killer and was going to do it. Did that
person do anything with that information?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, that's what we're really disturbed about. It appears that
this was communicated. You see this a lot, Bill, when
in targeted violence cases, assassination, school shootings, where the individual
expresses in advance, in a good swath of these cases
his desire or her desire to do these specific things.

(05:43):
That appears to be the case here as well. Where
the intent component was there in advance and the target
was was the target was announced in advance prior. Now
that's the part we want to know where they did
they know and not say they Now, Bill, you have
to keep in mind, I don't want anyone to jump

(06:03):
to conclusions on this. Did they say it, hear it
and think it was some kind of a joke. That's
what we're trying to find out now. But I promise you,
if there's a larger network here, we're going to get
that out to the public as soon as we can.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
We really are, Okay. The reason why this is really
important to your investigation understanding motive that I'll get to
in a moment here is that I believe that if
I've got the dates right here, that that event was
announced one week before it happened, and we've got the
reporting from over the weekend that said that the killer,

(06:37):
the accused killer now expressed views with his family at
a dinner table, and I don't know what the timeline
is between when that happened. Was it hours or was
it days? I mean, clearly it had to be at
least a couple of days, if not less. And if
he also expressed this opinion that he had an opportunity

(06:58):
to take our Kirk and was going to do it, well,
when was that message transmitted from this point that Charlie
was killed.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
This is the troubling part of the investigation. As I
see it now, there appeared to have been multiple warning
signs you just laid out some of them. There were
people in his network, friends and family who had stated
that he had become more political, that he had become
at some parts. I believe some of his coworkers had

(07:25):
stated that he had kind of detached himself when the
topic of politics came up and walked away from them.
Family members said he'd become more political, leading us to
believe that this ideology had infected him and had taken over,
and he was just intent. It appears from the data
we've accumulated and the channel and that note, which we

(07:49):
have some evidence may have existed before based on the
communications in that channel, that his target was obviously going
to be Charlie, and that people knew in advance. The
question is again, and I which want to go back
to what you had asked before. Did they know where
they sure this or did they hear this and just
write it off. That's what we're going to have to
find out, and that's what we're investigating now. Bill. This

(08:12):
investigation has just begun. This isn't even the beginning of
the beginning. You know, Yes, we have a subject in custody.
You know, everybody's innocent toal proven guilty in our constitutional republic. However,
this is not done by any stretch. Our men and
women out there in the Bureau have worked tirelessly all week.
And I just got back to DC last night, and

(08:33):
you know, Kash and I were out there on the scene.
We walked the scene, We went through every single component
of it. We saw the evidence up close and personal,
and we went out there to be able to make
command decisions with our team on the ground. And I
think the process, although not perfect, of course, I think
the process went pretty well considered. We got him in

(08:54):
thirty thirty three.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You listen to Bongino there, and I think were the
things that he's also talking about is is there accountability
for those that knew or may have known what was
happening here? You go back to that key phrase. I
believe some of his coworkers say that he had kind
of attached himself. And then you move from there. He
referenced the note that Robinson allegedly left behind, pointing that

(09:16):
out out that it may have existed quote before, based
on communications law enforcement has recovered. He indicated the totality
of everything and makes it clear that quote his target
was obviously going to be Charlie Kirk, and that the
people around him knew that that was going to be
his target in advance. So where do you go from here?

(09:41):
What Bongino said is the investigators are now having to
look at this. Did they know, were they sure of this,
or did they hear this and just write it off.
You put all of this together, and then you put
it back to the Utah Governor Spencer Cox indication that
Charlie Kirk's legislation quote had not only left leaning political beliefs,

(10:01):
but clearly disliked Charlie Kirk and was telling people that.
So I have to say, there needs to be some
sort of accountability. There has to be some sort of
obviously very good and in depth investigation. What we also
know is there's no doubt that this is the guy.

(10:21):
The FBI confirming the DNA found at the scene of
Charlie kirk'sastination's hiding spot matches the suspect and apparently he
had confessed to his family and to some friends, including
in a chat room. And so with a confirmation now
that the DNA samples founded the spot where Charlie Kirk's
session hid positively matches suspect now in con custody. That

(10:44):
also is going to move us forward on another point,
and that is on the death penalty. Cashpittel saying this
on Fox and Friends about the DNA matching, and I.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Can report today that the DNA hits from the towel
that was rap around the firearm and the DNA on
the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
There it is Cashpattel telling you that not only did
these suspects tal that wrapped around the assassin's weapon match
the screwdriver left on the UVA rooftop, both matched the
suspect already in custody. This is incredible work, by the way,
by the men and women in law enforcement. Robinson, by
the way, also were a note saying declaring that he

(11:28):
had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and that
he was going to take it. Patel went on to
say as well, saying quote, we have since learned the note,
even though it was destroyed, we have found forensic evidence
of the note and we have confirmed that the said
what the note said. Because our aggressive interview posture at
the FBI. We also know that further DNA found on

(11:48):
the thirty caliber bolt action rifle with a scope believed
to have been used in the shooting is still being
analyzed to determine its links to Robinson as well. Patel
also confirmed that Robinson is still not co operating with investigators.
I got to say, I am very thankful for cash Hotel,
for Dan Bongino, for all of the men and women
in law enforcement that have been working on this case

(12:10):
at the local, state, at the federal level. What they
were able to do to find him, and what they've
been able to do to make it very clear he did.
What he did is incredible police work. God bless him
for what they're doing. And God blessed Donald Trump, by
the way, for making sure that he picked the right
people for these jobs.

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