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November 4, 2025 10 mins

1. Hostage Remains and Psychological Warfare

  • The podcast opens with a news story from the Jerusalem Post about Hamas returning partial remains to Israel.
  • These remains were not from known hostages, which the speaker describes as a form of psychological torture against Israeli families.
  • The Red Cross acted as an intermediary in the handover, but Hamas did not specify whose remains were being returned.

2. Personal Reflections and Pilgrimage

  • Ben then shares that this trip to Israel is a spiritual journey, visiting sites related to Jesus and expressing feelings of safety and peace in Jerusalem.
  • Encourages others to visit Israel, stating it feels safe despite the conflict.

3. Rise of Antisemitism in the U.S.

  • A major theme is the alleged rise of antisemitism among American conservatives.
  • Specific figures mentioned include Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes, accused of downplaying Israel’s importance as a U.S. ally.
  • The speaker references Senator Ted Cruz, who warned of a “growing cancer” of antisemitism on the political right and urged Christian leaders to confront it.

4. Media Criticism

  • Ben criticizes mainstream media for allegedly portraying Israel as the aggressor and failing to tell the stories of Israeli victims and hostages.

5. Support for Donald Trump

  • Ben praises Donald Trump’s leadership, particularly his role in the Abraham Accords and efforts to secure the release of hostages.
  • Expresses gratitude from Israelis for Trump’s support and contrasts it with previous U.S. administrations.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Have some of these raids gone too far?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, I think they haven't gone far enough because we've
been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges
that were put in by Biden and by Obama.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
You're okay with those tactics.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, because you have to get the people out, you know,
you have to look at the people. Many of them
are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown
out of their countries because they were, you know, criminal.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben
ferguson Good Morning.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's nice to have you with us on the forty
seven Morning Update, and we are live in Jerusalem right now.
It is actually Tuesday, well where we're recording this with
my producer, it is Monday, eight hours ahead of where
he is right now. And I got to tell you,
trying to figure out the times to do these connections
the US has been comical. This show is going to

(00:49):
have a little bit different feel than normal as we
are going to be in Israel all week and we're
going to start with one of the incredible stories that
is on the front page of the Jerusalem Post. But first,
right now, all of us, our help is needed with
the people in Israel. The International Fellowship of Christians and
Jews has supported and will continue to support the people

(01:11):
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(01:36):
That's if CJ dot org the psychological torture that is
taking place on the Israeli people by Hamas. The headline
is simple. The three partial remains that Hamas returned to
Israel on Friday night do not belong to any of
the hostages still in Gaza. DNA tests conducted at the

(01:58):
Greenberg Institute of Forensic Medicine have concluded late on Friday,
the IDF was preparing for the return of the partial
remains of three slain Godza hostages. The Red Cross, acting
as intermediaries, handed over the remains to the IDF troops overnight,
but Hamas had not specified whose remains it was handing over.

(02:21):
Hamas said in a statement on Saturday that had initially
offered three samples from unidentified bodies to Israeli authorities for
quote testing. In order to not impede the handover of
the bodies, we offered deliver three samples from a number
of unidentified corpses. Hamas stated on telegram saying quote Israel

(02:42):
refused to accept the sample and demanded to receive the
bodies for examination and we hand them over to preempt
the enemy's claims. Again Hamas still referring to Israel as
their enemy. A statement from the International Committee of the
Red Cross said that the organization acts as a neutral intermediary,
assisted this evening at the request and with the approval

(03:06):
of both parties, in return the remains of three bodies
to Israeli authorities. The identification process is the responsibility of
the revelant authorities in Israel and will be carried out
by then. The reality is these bodies did not belong
to any of the hostages, and this goes back to
what I have been witnessing since I've been in Israel.

(03:28):
This has been an incredible trip, as I have, for
the very first time on my pilgrimage, been able to
see where Jesus walked, see where he carried the cross
for his own death and to see exactly what life
is like in Israel. There are a couple things that
I want to be clear about. Number One, on this trip,
it has been a spiritual journey for me. I will

(03:49):
never shy away from talking about that. I will also
tell you that if you're thinking about coming to Israel,
now is the time to do it. It has been
incredibly safe, especially in Jerusalem, and I can tell you
that there are so many people that want to come
to Israel and they haven't felt like it was the
right time. After being here, I would feel incredibly safe

(04:10):
bringing my entire family. This ceasefire and the leadership of
Donald Trump to get this peace in the Middle East
and the Abraham Accords is truly historic, but it's also
very real. But there's also another aspect of this trip
that I think is as important to tell you about,
and that is witnessing the torture. Just like the story

(04:31):
I told you about Hamas and the partial remain Sentomas
that they said were the hostages were actually not at all.
What we are witnessing right now is truly psychological warfare.
It's psychological warfare by a terrorist organization. It still refers
to Israel as the enemy in their own statement on telegram. Today,

(04:51):
what we're also witnessing is something else. It's extremely concerning
and part of the reason why I decided to take
this trip to Israel, and that is the rise of
anti Semitism on the right in America. I had the
privilege this evening of speaking with and hearing the story
of the mother of one of the hostages that was
just returned to Israel. You may remember the video that

(05:13):
went viral of a young lady on the back of
a motorcycle sandwich between two men, holding her hand out,
begging for help from her boyfriend. You may remember that
he moved that camera to the right and you could
see the boyfriend pleading and wanting to grab his girlfriend.
They were taken hostage and they were separated. That story

(05:36):
I was able to film tonight of a man by
the name of mister Orr. The mother of the hostage
told the story of her son, of how she found
out about when he was taken, and how he was
kept underground without being able to see the sun, literally
for years. That story I have put up on social

(05:57):
media so that you can hear it. I have put
it up on my Facebook account the video, and I
hope that every one of you will go look at
it on Facebook so that you can hear that story.
But what you learn when you were here and you
talk to the hostage victims and their families is that
their stories have not been told by the media. Their

(06:18):
torture has not been told by the media. And in fact,
what we've seen by the media is for them to
imply on every opportunity they get that Israel is somehow evil,
that they are committing genocide, that they are the ones
that are hurting innocent people, which is not the case
at all. I go back to this partial remains that
were sent by Hamas knowing that it was not actually

(06:40):
the hostages bodies. This is torturing the families. They know,
this is psychological warfare. We also know that because the
leadership of President Trump, we got to the point where
all living hostages were given back, and there is incredible
gratitude in Israel right now for the President of the
United States of America and him accomplishing something very quickly

(07:01):
that the prior administration couldn't do or didn't do on purpose,
you can decide. Which brings me to the other point,
and it's something I'm going to be focusing on on
this show the next several days. There is definitely a
rise in anti Semitism in America in the right right now.
It is being led by names that I'm sure you
know about, Candice Owans, Tucker Carlson, Nick Flinte, and others

(07:24):
who have decided that Israel is not important as an
ally of the United States of America. It is also
giving incredible help to the terrorist group of moss And
there is many that are concerned in Israel about this
happening in America. In fact, it's been the number one
thing I've been asked about is I've been in Israel

(07:45):
is what is happening with Republicans and conservatives. There was
a warning on the top page the Jerusalem Post yesterday.
The headline read a growing cancer. Senator Cruz warns of
anti Semitism spike on the US right. The sentater says
issue is accelerated by online normalization of fringe figures. He
also said the church is asleep. I couldn't agree more

(08:05):
with that, and he called on Christian leaders to act.
Senator Cruz delivering a dramatic warning that anti Semitism is
spreading on parts of the America's right and urge conservatives, pastors,
and lay leaders to draw red lines and confront it
head on. After being in Israel, I couldn't agree with
this more than what I've witnessed since being here, and

(08:28):
the danger is very high. The danger, as President Trump
has put it and Senator Cruz have put it, is
that you now have hardcore conservatives that are turning a
younger generation to be anti Semitic. There's real anti Semitism
on the right now, and there are a lot of
conservatives that are now believing that it's somehow okay to

(08:49):
say to Israel you're not our ally. I also want
to talk about national security issues, and it's something we'll
focus on tomorrow, and that is just how important Israel
is when it comes to five isis al Qaeda and
Islamic extremism in the Middle East, and how much intelligence
they give to America that allows us to stay safe.
That is going to be part of what we're going

(09:10):
to talk about. We're also going to talk about what
I see on the ground. Is I am going to
visit the site of the terrorist attack where that festival was.
I'm going to meet with more families tomorrow that loved
ones were killed and some that were able to come home,
and the leaders that are having to deal with the
fallout of the war that has happened for far too long.

(09:30):
So We're going to take a moment this week to
talk about Israel and the politics of it. So what
I'll tell you is this. Go on Facebook and watch
the video of the mother tell the story of her
son who has just returned. And listen that story and
tell me why on earth would we not stand with
these people that were attacked in a horrific way, the
worst attack on the Jewish peoples Enthoholocaust. Listen to our

(09:52):
words and we'll talk more about anti Semitism on the
right as well. Finally, what I'll tell you is this,
the people of Israel, they are I'm so thankful for
Donald Trump becoming president. Yet again, they love that we
have a presdent that is standing with them and also
understands there's a difference between right and wrong and good
and evil. That there is clarity in the world now

(10:12):
of where America stands with Israel, and it's part of
the conversation I'm happy to be having. While I'm here
in Jerusalem. I'll see you back here tomorrow for more
from Israel.

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