May 16, 2025 • 33 mins
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Criticism of Jake Tapper and the Media:
- The hosts accuse Jake Tapper and mainstream media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc.) of knowingly covering up President Joe Biden’s cognitive decline.
- They argue that Tapper’s involvement in the book is hypocritical, likening it to an arsonist writing about fire prevention.
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Allegations of Cognitive Decline:
- The episode discusses claims from the book and other sources that President Biden showed signs of severe cognitive deterioration, including forgetting key dates and people (e.g., George Clooney).
- They reference a DOJ report that allegedly described Biden as too mentally diminished to be prosecuted.
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Political and Legal Implications:
- Cruz and Ferguson question who was actually running the country if Biden was mentally unfit.
- They speculate about the use of an autopen for signing official documents and whether such actions are legally valid.
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Historical and Political Context:
- The conversation includes comparisons to past political events and figures, such as Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, and Ronald Reagan.
- They discuss the implications of the 25th Amendment and the role of Biden’s cabinet and advisors.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senter, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator It is a very big week for
putting out books that are full of crap.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
It truly is stunning. So Jake Tapper from CNN has
a book along with Alex Thompson from Axios. The book
is entitled Original Sin. President Biden's Decline, its cover up,
and his disastrous choice to run again. And when you
talk about full of crap, I really don't think you're
(00:31):
being fair to crap like this is This is like
a book Arsonist discovers a fire he started. This is
like a book Tony Montana, the drug dealer says cocaine
is bad for you. Like, yes, Jake, there was a
cover up, an absolute, complete, total cover up. It was knowing,
(00:54):
it was deliberate, and you did it. You, Jake Tapper
and CN in We're twenty four to seven, engage in
the cover up. You knew about his mental decline, and
you refuse to tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's shocking just how bad it was. And by the way,
we have the receipts just to remind people.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, you're going to hear the proof momentarily.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, and we're gonna get to that because I want
everyone and this is why we do the show.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
This is why we do this podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
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eight four eight eight four three two five. All Right,
so let's go back to this lie that I think
the part that blows my mind the most is the
fact that Tafliver is actually probably gonna get the best
seller out of this. Everyone in the media is praising
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him for this incredible reporting, and this is the guy
that literally helped cover up the cognitive decline and dismissed
anyone who brought it up on a show.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So look, the book, as I understand it, was originally
written by Alex Thompson. Alex Thompson is not nearly as
well known as Jake Tapper yep, And he had a
contract with the book publishing company. He wrote the book,
and then the book publishing company decided to cancel it
and said, no, we're not going to publish this book
after all. In other words, the book publishing company engaged
in yet another cover up because they didn't want anyone
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to know, And so Thompson sought out Tapper and convinced Tapper, hey,
join with me. You're a big famous guy. They'll publish
it if your name's on it. And Tapper said yes.
And I got to say so, there are lots of.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Never got a crisis waste right that's.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Looking particularly a chance to make some good money. I mean, hey,
what's journalism all about if not monetizing your own hypocrisy
and your own cover up. Look, Tapper, some of the
facts that are coming out in this book. In twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four, Tapper and Thompson report
Biden's physical deterioration was so severe that his advisors discussed
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the possibility he would need to use a wheelchair if
he won Reelection's that's how bad it was. And yet
every time anyone tried to bring up those facts, Jake
Tapper and the rest of the corporate media covered it up.
But don't take my word for it. Listen to Jake
Tapper in his own words. This is a collection of
(04:23):
Tapper over the years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And this goes back to twenty twenty. The very beginning
is him talking to one of the Trump family members,
Laura Trump, and he actually like ends the interview like,
you can't even say this on my show.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So this montage starts in twenty twenty, then goes to
twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, and then twenty four
all throughout.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Tapper for five years covered this up aggressively.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
How do you think it makes little kids with stutters
feel when they see you make a comment like that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable. You
are no view of ita. That's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's so amazing to me that trying to figure out an.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Answer cognitive declaresatent.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Biden embraces his stutter talking about it, while Trump mocks it,
exaggerates it, belittles it. He's sharp physically, I mean mentally.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I think the question is physically right right or
so right right?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three
or four years younger than him. Maybe, I mean, you
have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness ability to lead.
Of those supporting Biden, you said, quote, shame on all
of you pretending everything is Okay, you're leading us and
him into a disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I
don't doubt that you.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Got hugs and handshakes behind closed doors today, and maybe
even publicly, some of them because they like you personally.
But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about
you from your Democratic colleage.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, just like, what is he thinking?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Exercise in narcissism? I mean false claims to the Wall
Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity. He's
eighty one and his memory. You know, it doesn't seem great.
It's not horrible, But I don't understand the outrage quote
behind closed doors Biden shows signs of slippant quote. The
Wall Street Journal is owned by Newscore, which is run
by the Murdocks. Beyond the headline, there is some critical
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nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans,
with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on
the record. They do note in the article that most
of the criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any
concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about
him seeming a little slower now the Russians are trying
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to do to make us in the public not trust
the our election integrity. Joe Biden has dimension all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Let's just stop there and give the title of the
book again, Senator, so people understand what they just heard
and now what he's writing. Because if you just look
at the title of the book, you understand the debauchery
of journalistic scumbaggery.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
The title of the book is original sin President Biden's decline,
its cover up, and his disastrous choice to run again.
And understand Jake Tapper when he was saying that he
was lying, he knew he was lying. Everyone else on
CNN knew he was lying. They knew they were lying.
Everyone on MSNBC knew they were lying. Everyone on ABCNBCCBS
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knew they were lying. Everyone at the New York Times
knew they were lying. Everyone at the Washington Post.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Knew they were lying. Everyone knew this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Look one of the facts in his book, he says
at a fundraiser in Judea twenty twenty four, Joe Biden
didn't recognize George Clooney, who he's known for decades. He
had told by the way he had to be introduced
like Ocean's eleven. What is there, casino?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You're robbing?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't understand, like Biden had no idea. This is
the same fundraiser you remember where Barack Obama had to
lead Biden off the stage because he was just confused
and staring out in space, and Tapper and the rest
of them just lied to us and said, Aoka, no
problems here.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You go back, Senator to what you just said a
moment ago.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And it's a great point here, and it's one about
the fact that they were at this fundraiser and.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The president didn't know, like George Cooney.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Wise, do you have Barack Obama having to walk him
off stage like that was when everyone in his realm
that they were even trying to I think insulate protecting
from They all knew then, like this is a disaster,
and yet they still went full speed ahead with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, that's exactly right. You know, The Babylon Bee had
a great headline that summed up this book. So the
Babylon B's headline was quote, Jake Tapper uncovers startling evidence
that Biden's decline was covered up by Jake Tapper. And
that's exactly what his book is and listen, listen to
this week Chuck Schumer, because it wasn't just Jake Tapper
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that was lying. Every Democrat was lying. Every Democrat Senator,
every Democrat governor, every Democrat house member. They all knew
Biden was seriously declining mentally, and they all covered it up.
Schumer was one of the most shameless because he gave
his own personal guarantee about how quick Biden was. And
and listen this week when when finally the media confronts
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him about his lies, Listen to what Chuck Schumer says.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You said in June of last year, in my meeting
for President Biden, I found the command and the president
guilded influence to make.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Fagress and key priorities.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But in that same mom violent here that he not
even recognized George in a fundraiser show.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We're just looking forward.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, it's the best answer I've ever heard from
a politician center.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We're just looking forward.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, we gotta go. We're just looking forward. And I'm
walking off stage like we're just looking forward.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, so, Governor, tell me about the dead body
that we found in your house. We're just looking Or
tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The cocaine, the White House just looking for just moving.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We're just moving for guys, Schumer, not not the tiniest
bit of accountability, not the oh yeah, we're not just
we're moving forward.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To forward movement. The Democrats.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know, it reminded me back if you remember when
Mitt Romney ran for president against Barack Obama. Yes, and
Harry Reid went and lied and claimed that Mitt Romney
hadn't paid income taxes, and he just flat out lied,
and he did it on the Senate floor.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You know why I did it on the Senate.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Floor because you can't argue back with him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Right, Well, that's true. But there's another reason he did
it on the Senate floor because the Constitution has a
provision called the Speech and Debate Clause that that that
immunizes members of Congress for speech and debate on the
Senate floor. He did it so no one could sue him.
So Mitt Romney couldn't sue him for defamation because he
was lying.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And he didn't sit on TV. Interesting and after.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The election they asked Harry Reid about wait, you were lying,
you had no evidence, And and Harry Reid, who was
then the Democrat Senate majority leader, he said, well, Romney
didn't win, did he like, It's the same thing as
Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We're just looking forward, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Listen to now Biden's national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, who
worked with Biden every day in the White House and
so new to an absolute certainty that Biden was severely
mentally declining. But listen to what Jake Sullivan said.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
What happened in that debate was a shock to me.
I think was a shock to everybody. And I've made
that point before. Just finally, do you think in retrospect,
given everything that's happened and everything we've talked about today,
it was a mistake for President Biden to try some
fun again. One of the things about being national security
advisor is that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political
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decision making. I was insulated from it to the point
where while I was National Security Advisor, my spouse was
running for Congress, and I had strict rules about what
I could even do to support my spouse, let alone
be involved in political decision making, political calls in the
White House. So I have not weighed in on those
issues and would not weigh in on those issues.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let's just be clear. I've known national security advisors. That
is the biggest one of crap I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I'm just going to point out something really funny. There's
something about Democrat men that makes them weenies. So he says,
my spouse was running for congress, so he is actually
married to a woman. Yep, Ben, Can you imagine any
circumstances which I refer to your wife as my spouse?
I mean, isn't like I don't know a man who
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refers to his wife as my.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Spouse who's running for congress, my wife who is running
for congress like that, like.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The way like human beings would communicate, but but not
not Democrat after.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yours would be my smoking hot wife who's running for congress.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Better And by the way, do I know you well
or do I know you will.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Any any chance to to praise praise your wife, not
your spouse. Yes, my smoking hot wife is exactly exactly
the way to put it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I set you up for success there.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I just want to know if there's anything you're gonna
you should clip from this pod and send to your wife,
like go to this minute mark in the pod.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Honey, you made the pod.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Actually look as you know the podcast, so that'll bell
she'll be listening.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
This is a litmus test.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
One day I said thing about my wife in my
show and I wanted to see if she heard it,
and like her friends text are like, Ben said thing
about you, and she's like, what did you say about me?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Day?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I was like, well, if you listen to the show,
you would have known.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It was like a great, you know that was a mistake.
Don't do that. I told you, so you only I'm
just saying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm just saying I want to ask you on a
very serious note here you look at the hypocrisy. But
the most disturbing thing for me coming out of this
book and how the axious reporting is that the cabinet
members worried about his capacity, specifically in a crisis. Now
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there's been interesting reporting, and I just want to put
it in perspective. He has the bad debate. There was
real conversations, we were told and there's reporting on this
about the possibility of invoking the twenty fifth. Not because
they were afraid, I go back to the you know,
worried about the capacity in a crisis.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
They just didn't want to lose the election.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
It was all politics.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They were perfectly fine having someone with dementia who was
not capable of decision making as president as commander in chief.
So this Jake Tapper comedy book includes the revelation that
multiple cabinet members were worried that he could not be
relied on at a time of crisis because his mental
diminution was so great. One cabinet secretary said, Biden's top
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aids quote shielded him in every meeting from October twenty
twenty three on quote the cabinet was kept at bay
another quote for months. We didn't have access to him.
There was clearly a deliberate strategy by the White House
to have him meet with as few people as necessary.
Another cabinet secretary says that one rare meeting during the time,
that cabinet secretary was quote shocked by how the President
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was acting. He seemed disoriented and out of it, his
mouth agape. They knew they were worried. And you know what,
if our enemies attacked us, this was the commander in
chief that the Democrats and CNN and the lying corporate
media was telling us could protect us. And and look,
I don't know that I'd trust him to operate the
remote control on the television set.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
By the way, are they going to put this on
her fiction or nonfiction? That's what I want to know
when you go to the store, right if you go
look for like.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well sadly, I think they'll put it on under nonfiction,
which they should, because it is true that Joe Biden's
has had a massive mental deterioration. What they should put
under fiction is what Jake says on TV every day.
That's the fiction part. The irony is this may be
the one truth thing Jake Tapper has has written or
said in the last Hold on the Guy from Access.
It's actually true. It was someone else who wrote it
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and his name name on it. Yeah, but but by
accident he told the truth, except for the fact that
he didn't admit that he's been lying to the country
the entire time Biden was in the White House.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So let's go back to the cabinet members, because this
is the big question. I was doing Fox and I
Waters World. Killy mcneie was filling in form White House
pressingcretary and she was talking about then when when some
of this was starting to break and I and I said, look,
the headlines are amazing, but I said. The real question
that I think we should all be asking, and I
want your take on this, is if all this is true,
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and I have no reason believe it's not, who the
hell was the president of the United States of America.
Who was running the country? Was it thirty people that
were elected by no one? I don't think it was
one person. I think there's a very good chance that
the FBI was the president of the FBI and the
DoD was the president.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I mean, who the hell was running the country?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Actually, all right, That's why I ask you.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I've been asked that question probably a thousand times, and
I'm gonna give you the most terrifying answer you could imagine.
I don't know, Okay, I genuinely don't know. I think
it was Barack Obama. I think it was Barack Obama.
Barack Obama, certainly his minions, is the only president in
modern times who at the end of his presidency stayed
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in DC, bought a big house in Calorama. Every night,
their cars in the driveway, and all of his little
apparachic minions are in the White House.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And I think it was a combination.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
When Joe Biden's White House was filled with staffers. I
want people to understand this. This is well reported, but
this is really important right now for this story. It
was well reported on that Biden and his team were
the one that placed everyone in the positions of power
in the Biden I mean Obama, I Saix's Obama and
his team placed everyone basically in a position of powers
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in the Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So look, in four years of the Biden presidency, I'm
in the Senate the whole time. How many times do
you think I spoke with Joe Biden while he was president.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I would say one to three zero, And I was
saying one to three because I thought they were protecting him.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So you're saying, as a senator, and that's not normal.
People need to understand that.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Not a single time, and that is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How many times with Obama freeing?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Lots of times.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean I spoke with Obama regularly. With Trump, I
speak with him often every week, sometimes multiple times a week.
It is part of the job of being a senator
to work with the president, to talk with the president,
even the president of the opposing part.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Were there ever big lads with Obama? For example, I'm
trying to really paint a picture here of how insane
it is. You didn't talk to him for four years.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And the thing to understand is we all know Joe Biden.
He was in the Senate for four years. He was
a man of the Senate. When I was first elected
the Senate in twenty twelve, Joe Biden swore me in.
In fact, I'll tell you, without the cognitive decline, and
he was fine. Now when vice president thirteen years ago,
he did not have cognitive cline. And in fact, it
was funny. So my girls, you know, my daughters, they're
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fourteen and seventeen. When I was sworn in, they were
two and four. They were little bitty and my two
year old Catherine, Biden leaned over to pick her up
and she screamed. She screamed really loudly, and Biden said,
it's okay, it's okay. It's a Democrat, but it's okay.
And that was actually quite funny.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I laughed.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And you don't how Time magazine does little quotes of
like the quotes of the week. Yeah, that next week,
the quote of the week was it's okay, it's okay,
it's a Democrat, but it's okay. Vice President Joe Biden
to Catherine Cruz age two, and I've said, you know,
when Catherine is married, hopefully a long long time from now,
I intend to read that quote at her wedding and say,
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even at age two, Catherine knew if a Democrat tries
to pick you up.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Scream loudly.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I like that one. So where do we go from
And by the way, when.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I say I didn't speak with him for four years,
that was true of virtually every Republican senator.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So we would say that Democrat senators are talking to him.
They middle more.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The Democrats talked to him early.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
On because they were isolating him from what the book
saying from like everyone, so they talked to him a
little more. When when the Senates and session, Republican senators
have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so we
talk at lunch. It's they're working lunches, they're very productive.
We would sit at lunch and talk about how weird
it was that that none of us had spoken to Biden,
had been to the White House to see him, and
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we all knew him. They were clearly hiding him. I
actually remember one of my colleagues. John Kennedy a good
friend Senator from Louisiana. He was one of the few
who had seen Biden one time, and he actually told
us all the story. We're sitting at the table and
he said, look, he had passed a bill. He said,
it was a fairly minor bill, but it was a
bipartisan bill that had passed, and Biden did a bill siding,
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and so they brought him under. They brought him over
because they wanted to say, look how bipartisan were So
so Kennedy was in the oval and Biden was there,
and Kennedy started striking up a conversation with Biden, and
John knew him like we all did. And and Biden asked, so, John,
you ever seen the cabinet room? And John Kennedy being
John Kennedy, he said I lied and said no, and
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he said, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, and he care where that was going? You say,
now to that question, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And so he takes him in there and he said.
Biden begins telling stories from like forty or fifty years ago,
and Kennedy said, the White House staff comes in freaking out.
Miss President got to go, you gotta go, And Biden
yells at him, shut up, I'm telling stories, and he said,
he went on for like thirty forty minutes, and it
was like listening to your grandfather who tell these same
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stories and ever the same stories like fifty years ago.
They can remember, but but don't ask them what's happening today.
And and that was and he was literally at my
lunch table. I remember he was the only one of
us who had seen Biden since he's been president, and
and that was his one experience with him.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Will there be anything now that the mees accept this
as fact? They're reporting on this fact. Cabinet members were
worried about his capacity in a crisis. That's what they've said.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Is there going to be any oversight slash investigation? Should
there be? From Congress?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I know that's a weird question because there's somebody like, look,
we want let's move on, But like I do, actually,
as an American citizen, want to know who was running
the United States of America that was elected by no one.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I want to know who was calling the shots it
was elected by no one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because whether I win or lose an election, my vote
should not be canceled out by by some sort of
dictator or tyrant within an administration that no one knows
who's running a government.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And by the way, there's a related question to that
Ben which as we see the stories that apparently a
substantial number of official things that Biden signed were signed
by the autopen.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So was he even making the decision to sign them, right?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And he didn't even seem to know like some of
the pardons. And I actually think you'll have this litigated.
I don't not aware of any court that's ever decided
is is a pardon? Does a pardon have to actually
be signed by the president. So, look, every elected official
has an autopen. I have an autopen, and so for
things like constituent correspondence, if you write into your senator,
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you'll get a response back, and we try to respond
substantively in the autop pen will sign it. And I
get millions of those letters, so I couldn't physically sign
them all.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
All I'm thinking about right now is how where that
autopen isn't how much fun I could happen keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But look, it's fine for if something like correspondence a
birthday wish, But the question is for something that has
legal force of law. And I actually want to know
did they use the autopen to sign any legislation, because
it's not clear to me legislation that the president didn't
sign has legal force. The autopen is not the commander
in chief and the chief judges.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
For example, if he didn't autopeny, which means I'm truly
convinced that he didn't know what was going on, he
didn't know who's appointing.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
He probably didn't know who's pardoning.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And if that happening, the parties are where it'll be litigated, okay,
and that will Why is that so different, because look,
it's it's interesting, like a pardon under the Constitution, all
you have to have is a document from the president
that said, you know, I I pardoned Ben Ferguson and
and and suddenly actually only if it's a federal offense,
so he can't.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, the abuse I take, the abuse I take.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But it literally there's no pomp and circumstance. It doesn't
have to have gold leaf on the paper, it doesn't
have to be an official it's just a piece of
paper with a signature with those words and his signature,
that is legally a pardon. But if you don't actually
have a signature. Listen, I've been in the oval dozens
of times, probably more when when President Trump is signing
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things and pulls out he actually so have you seen
the pen? Okay, yeah, I've got I've got one of
the big sharpies, like most presidents use like a sharpie
to have a signing pen. But President Trump's it's a
marker that's probably what ten inches long.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And maybe golds like golden signature and like an inch.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
In diameter like it's it is massive.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But he signs one after the other, after the other
after the other, because that's what gives it legal force
of law. If you have a president that's mentally incompetent
and you have staffers running thing, it makes you wonder
doctor Fauci's pardon is it?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I don't know? Yeah, And if it's the auto pen,
which I'm sure they can figure that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Out, it will be It's an interesting question, you know.
I'll say a few more of these quotes from from
the cabinet members. The cabinet members in this book, uh
described said one said quote the staff did him wrong.
If you were with him every day and you knew
this was going to be a problem, why didn't you
go to him and say another said quote, access dropped
(25:02):
off considerably in twenty twenty four, and I didn't interact
with him as much. A third said quote, Yes, the
president is making the decisions, but if the inner circle
is shaping them in such a way, is it really
a decision? And here was another cabinet secretary. I don't
think he has dementia, but the thing is he's an
old man. The president can give you four to six
good hours a day when he got tired, sloppy isn't
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the right word, but his guard was down. That would
be the commander in chief of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I want to go back to the last quote, Sata,
that you just said about the people around the president.
Now that it's over, now that everybody knows the cognit decline,
now that the books are being written, they're telling you
they may have only gotten four hours a day out
of the president units Asperagra. That is maybe one of
the most shocking statements I've ever heard about any president.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yet, look, it's he was not mentally capable to do
the job. They knew it, and they lied about it.
And by the way, Jake Tapper's whole premise that gosh,
little old mea was deceived. They just didn't tell me
the truth.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I just didn't know. Well, Jake, if you listened to.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Verdict, we were telling you the facts, and we were
telling you the facts early on par I want you
to go back to January of twenty twenty four. I
want you to listen to a segment of Benemy in
the podcast back in January of twenty four talking about
Biden's deterioration.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Give a listen.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You and I and kind of anyone with eyes and
common sense have been observing for a long time that
Joe Biden's cognitive decline is massive.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
But it's easy for.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Some observers to dismiss that and say, you know, these
guys are biased, they're partisans, they don't like Biden, so
what they're saying is not true. In this instance, the
people speaking are the Biden Department of Justice and not
any department of justice. This is an apartment of Justice
that has proven itself the most politicized and partisan department
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of justice in history, and they have argued. So, for example,
I'm going to read you a paragraph from the report.
In his interview with our office, mister Biden's memory was worse.
He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting
on the first day of the interview when his term
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ended quote if it was twenty thirteen, when did I
stop being vice president? And forgetting on the second day
of the interview when his term began quote in two
thousand and nine, am I still vice president? He did
not remember even within several years when his son Bo died,
(27:43):
and his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate
that was once so important to him, among other things,
he mistakenly said he quote had a real difference of
opinion with General or Aitkenberry, when in fact Aitkinberry was
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an ally whom mister Biden cited approvingly in his Thanksgiving
memo to President Obama. All of that was authored by
the Biden Department of Justice. And when they are describing
the sitting president as a well meaning elderly man with
a poor memory, the natural question for anyone to say is,
(28:27):
holy crap. If he's not competent to stand trial, why
is he the commander in chief with the authority to
send our sons and daughters into harm's way? Why does
he have access to the nuclear codes? Understand the description here?
They say, you couldn't charge him with a crime because
he's not aware of enough to have the requisite mental intent.
(28:49):
And yet Joe Biden tonight, if he's so desired, could
literally exterminate humanity from the face of the planet. As
commander in chief, if he gave the order launch the
nuclear weapons. Now, unless the military refused to obey the
commander in chief, Joe Biden could exterminate every life on
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this planet. And if he's not mentally competent to stand trial,
that is terrifying. So that was a year and a
half ago, a year and a half ago on this podcast.
And understand the entire basis at Tapper's book is he
couldn't possibly know about known about this mental decline. The
Department of Justice in this would be the Biden Department
of Justice went into court. So the Robert Herr Report,
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Remember they did not prosecute Biden.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And where was that? I wonder do you remember the
timeframe on that.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That was early twenty four. Yeah, we covered it a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And that with them interviewing him in twenty three.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So in twenty three when they were interviewing Joe Biden,
they then in twenty four told America he's so bad off.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
We can't even charge him with anything.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So they concluded if they charged him, he would be
found not competent to the convicted. That is a stunning. Look,
there's a standard. There are people that are not competent
to be tried. If you have dementia, if you're like
mentally ill, that you're not able that The legal standard
is you have to form what's called mensraa, which is intent.
And they said, well, he's so old and senile, we
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can't charge him. So that's why they said, oh, yeah,
he clearly violated the law. He committed a felony. Remember
he kept classified materials everywhere, including his garage next to
his antique car.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Now to joke, that's real.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And they said he was guilty of that, but they
couldn't charge him because he was incompetent to stan trial.
I want you to listen in twenty twenty three to
me laying out his mental decline and MSNBC Morning Joe
making fun of me for it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
This was like one of their big intros. May fourth,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Twenty eleven, when Republicans in the House stood strong on
the death ceiling again because Democrats had had majority of
the Congress for two years had passed trillions in irresponsible spend,
and Republicans stood strong and said, we will not raise
the debt ceiling without serious fiscal reform.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Then Vice President Joe Biden came and negotiated a deal,
a deal called the Budget Control Act. Vice President Biden
sat down with House Republicans and reached a meaningful compromise.
President Joe Biden needs to do the same thing, and
I'll say sadly the reason he hasn't so far, I
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believe is because his mental faculties are too diminished.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Right now, you know, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
He has such a point. His mental faculties are so
diminished that he passed more bipartisan signed more bipartisan legislation.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was doing it last year.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Any president since LBJ My god, if he were as
coaching as he had been than twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But he could have been like you could have gone
back to FDR.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
What else he did without without apparently realizing what he
was doing. He like held NATO together to fight Russian
aggression in Ukraine, and and.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
My god, I know he only increased eight hundred mile
border in NATO.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
With Russia exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I guess he you know, he thought he was happen.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
You know, it reminds me of Ronald Reagan when he
was speaking at Harvard, a Eurekan College grad and he's
sitting there talking to the grads and he's making fun
of his education. At the end, he goes, you know,
sometimes I just sit here with a presidential seal in
front of him, and I wonder what I could have
been with a good.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Go back and read.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
David, go back and read Reagan. He says, by golly,
I mean, I love this. And by the way, we
do know who was doing it now. It was either
an auto pin or a bunch of old staffers.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
So I'm curious that I may have missed this. But
as Joe Scarborough apologized for lying to America, no.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's probably writing a book about the decline of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
How they apologized, as MSNBC, as NBC, if any of
them apologized, they knew he was mentally diminished, and they
covered it up because they were partisans, and they have
supported his agenda to heck with whether we had a
competent commander in chief or not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
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Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senter, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator It is a very big week for
putting out books that are full of crap.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
It truly is stunning. So Jake Tapper from CNN has
a book along with Alex Thompson from Axios. The book
is entitled Original Sin. President Biden's Decline, its cover up,
and his disastrous choice to run again. And when you
talk about full of crap, I really don't think you're
(00:31):
being fair to crap like this is This is like
a book Arsonist discovers a fire he started. This is
like a book Tony Montana, the drug dealer says cocaine
is bad for you. Like, yes, Jake, there was a
cover up, an absolute, complete, total cover up. It was knowing,
(00:54):
it was deliberate, and you did it. You, Jake Tapper
and CN in We're twenty four to seven, engage in
the cover up. You knew about his mental decline, and
you refuse to tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's shocking just how bad it was. And by the way,
we have the receipts just to remind people.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, you're going to hear the proof momentarily.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, and we're gonna get to that because I want
everyone and this is why we do the show.
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This is why we do this podcast.
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eight four eight eight four three two five. All Right,
so let's go back to this lie that I think
the part that blows my mind the most is the
fact that Tafliver is actually probably gonna get the best
seller out of this. Everyone in the media is praising
(02:57):
him for this incredible reporting, and this is the guy
that literally helped cover up the cognitive decline and dismissed
anyone who brought it up on a show.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So look, the book, as I understand it, was originally
written by Alex Thompson. Alex Thompson is not nearly as
well known as Jake Tapper yep, And he had a
contract with the book publishing company. He wrote the book,
and then the book publishing company decided to cancel it
and said, no, we're not going to publish this book
after all. In other words, the book publishing company engaged
in yet another cover up because they didn't want anyone
(03:26):
to know, And so Thompson sought out Tapper and convinced Tapper, hey,
join with me. You're a big famous guy. They'll publish
it if your name's on it. And Tapper said yes.
And I got to say so, there are lots of.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Never got a crisis waste right that's.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Looking particularly a chance to make some good money. I mean, hey,
what's journalism all about if not monetizing your own hypocrisy
and your own cover up. Look, Tapper, some of the
facts that are coming out in this book. In twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four, Tapper and Thompson report
Biden's physical deterioration was so severe that his advisors discussed
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the possibility he would need to use a wheelchair if
he won Reelection's that's how bad it was. And yet
every time anyone tried to bring up those facts, Jake
Tapper and the rest of the corporate media covered it up.
But don't take my word for it. Listen to Jake
Tapper in his own words. This is a collection of
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Tapper over the years.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And this goes back to twenty twenty. The very beginning
is him talking to one of the Trump family members,
Laura Trump, and he actually like ends the interview like,
you can't even say this on my show.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So this montage starts in twenty twenty, then goes to
twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, and then twenty four
all throughout.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Tapper for five years covered this up aggressively.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
How do you think it makes little kids with stutters
feel when they see you make a comment like that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable. You
are no view of ita. That's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's so amazing to me that trying to figure out an.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Answer cognitive declaresatent.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Biden embraces his stutter talking about it, while Trump mocks it,
exaggerates it, belittles it. He's sharp physically, I mean mentally.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I think the question is physically right right or
so right right?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three
or four years younger than him. Maybe, I mean, you
have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness ability to lead.
Of those supporting Biden, you said, quote, shame on all
of you pretending everything is Okay, you're leading us and
him into a disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I
don't doubt that you.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Got hugs and handshakes behind closed doors today, and maybe
even publicly, some of them because they like you personally.
But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about
you from your Democratic colleage.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, just like, what is he thinking?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Exercise in narcissism? I mean false claims to the Wall
Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity. He's
eighty one and his memory. You know, it doesn't seem great.
It's not horrible, But I don't understand the outrage quote
behind closed doors Biden shows signs of slippant quote. The
Wall Street Journal is owned by Newscore, which is run
by the Murdocks. Beyond the headline, there is some critical
(06:11):
nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans,
with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on
the record. They do note in the article that most
of the criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any
concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about
him seeming a little slower now the Russians are trying
(06:32):
to do to make us in the public not trust
the our election integrity. Joe Biden has dimension all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Let's just stop there and give the title of the
book again, Senator, so people understand what they just heard
and now what he's writing. Because if you just look
at the title of the book, you understand the debauchery
of journalistic scumbaggery.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
The title of the book is original sin President Biden's decline,
its cover up, and his disastrous choice to run again.
And understand Jake Tapper when he was saying that he
was lying, he knew he was lying. Everyone else on
CNN knew he was lying. They knew they were lying.
Everyone on MSNBC knew they were lying. Everyone on ABCNBCCBS
(07:20):
knew they were lying. Everyone at the New York Times
knew they were lying. Everyone at the Washington Post.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Knew they were lying. Everyone knew this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Look one of the facts in his book, he says
at a fundraiser in Judea twenty twenty four, Joe Biden
didn't recognize George Clooney, who he's known for decades. He
had told by the way he had to be introduced
like Ocean's eleven. What is there, casino?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You're robbing?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't understand, like Biden had no idea. This is
the same fundraiser you remember where Barack Obama had to
lead Biden off the stage because he was just confused
and staring out in space, and Tapper and the rest
of them just lied to us and said, Aoka, no
problems here.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You go back, Senator to what you just said a
moment ago.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And it's a great point here, and it's one about
the fact that they were at this fundraiser and.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The president didn't know, like George Cooney.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Wise, do you have Barack Obama having to walk him
off stage like that was when everyone in his realm
that they were even trying to I think insulate protecting
from They all knew then, like this is a disaster,
and yet they still went full speed ahead with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, that's exactly right. You know, The Babylon Bee had
a great headline that summed up this book. So the
Babylon B's headline was quote, Jake Tapper uncovers startling evidence
that Biden's decline was covered up by Jake Tapper. And
that's exactly what his book is and listen, listen to
this week Chuck Schumer, because it wasn't just Jake Tapper
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that was lying. Every Democrat was lying. Every Democrat Senator,
every Democrat governor, every Democrat house member. They all knew
Biden was seriously declining mentally, and they all covered it up.
Schumer was one of the most shameless because he gave
his own personal guarantee about how quick Biden was. And
and listen this week when when finally the media confronts
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him about his lies, Listen to what Chuck Schumer says.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You said in June of last year, in my meeting
for President Biden, I found the command and the president
guilded influence to make.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Fagress and key priorities.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But in that same mom violent here that he not
even recognized George in a fundraiser show.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We're just looking forward.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, it's the best answer I've ever heard from
a politician center.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We're just looking forward.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, we gotta go. We're just looking forward. And I'm
walking off stage like we're just looking forward.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, so, Governor, tell me about the dead body
that we found in your house. We're just looking Or
tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The cocaine, the White House just looking for just moving.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We're just moving for guys, Schumer, not not the tiniest
bit of accountability, not the oh yeah, we're not just
we're moving forward.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To forward movement. The Democrats.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know, it reminded me back if you remember when
Mitt Romney ran for president against Barack Obama. Yes, and
Harry Reid went and lied and claimed that Mitt Romney
hadn't paid income taxes, and he just flat out lied,
and he did it on the Senate floor.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You know why I did it on the Senate.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Floor because you can't argue back with him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Right, Well, that's true. But there's another reason he did
it on the Senate floor because the Constitution has a
provision called the Speech and Debate Clause that that that
immunizes members of Congress for speech and debate on the
Senate floor. He did it so no one could sue him.
So Mitt Romney couldn't sue him for defamation because he
was lying.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And he didn't sit on TV. Interesting and after.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The election they asked Harry Reid about wait, you were lying,
you had no evidence, And and Harry Reid, who was
then the Democrat Senate majority leader, he said, well, Romney
didn't win, did he like, It's the same thing as
Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We're just looking forward, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Listen to now Biden's national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, who
worked with Biden every day in the White House and
so new to an absolute certainty that Biden was severely
mentally declining. But listen to what Jake Sullivan said.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
What happened in that debate was a shock to me.
I think was a shock to everybody. And I've made
that point before. Just finally, do you think in retrospect,
given everything that's happened and everything we've talked about today,
it was a mistake for President Biden to try some
fun again. One of the things about being national security
advisor is that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political
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decision making. I was insulated from it to the point
where while I was National Security Advisor, my spouse was
running for Congress, and I had strict rules about what
I could even do to support my spouse, let alone
be involved in political decision making, political calls in the
White House. So I have not weighed in on those
issues and would not weigh in on those issues.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let's just be clear. I've known national security advisors. That
is the biggest one of crap I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I'm just going to point out something really funny. There's
something about Democrat men that makes them weenies. So he says,
my spouse was running for congress, so he is actually
married to a woman. Yep, Ben, Can you imagine any
circumstances which I refer to your wife as my spouse?
I mean, isn't like I don't know a man who
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refers to his wife as my.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Spouse who's running for congress, my wife who is running
for congress like that, like.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The way like human beings would communicate, but but not
not Democrat after.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yours would be my smoking hot wife who's running for congress.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Better And by the way, do I know you well
or do I know you will.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Any any chance to to praise praise your wife, not
your spouse. Yes, my smoking hot wife is exactly exactly
the way to put it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I set you up for success there.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I just want to know if there's anything you're gonna
you should clip from this pod and send to your wife,
like go to this minute mark in the pod.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Honey, you made the pod.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Actually look as you know the podcast, so that'll bell
she'll be listening.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
This is a litmus test.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
One day I said thing about my wife in my
show and I wanted to see if she heard it,
and like her friends text are like, Ben said thing
about you, and she's like, what did you say about me?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Day?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I was like, well, if you listen to the show,
you would have known.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It was like a great, you know that was a mistake.
Don't do that. I told you, so you only I'm
just saying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm just saying I want to ask you on a
very serious note here you look at the hypocrisy. But
the most disturbing thing for me coming out of this
book and how the axious reporting is that the cabinet
members worried about his capacity, specifically in a crisis. Now
(13:43):
there's been interesting reporting, and I just want to put
it in perspective. He has the bad debate. There was
real conversations, we were told and there's reporting on this
about the possibility of invoking the twenty fifth. Not because
they were afraid, I go back to the you know,
worried about the capacity in a crisis.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
They just didn't want to lose the election.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
It was all politics.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They were perfectly fine having someone with dementia who was
not capable of decision making as president as commander in chief.
So this Jake Tapper comedy book includes the revelation that
multiple cabinet members were worried that he could not be
relied on at a time of crisis because his mental
diminution was so great. One cabinet secretary said, Biden's top
(14:25):
aids quote shielded him in every meeting from October twenty
twenty three on quote the cabinet was kept at bay
another quote for months. We didn't have access to him.
There was clearly a deliberate strategy by the White House
to have him meet with as few people as necessary.
Another cabinet secretary says that one rare meeting during the time,
that cabinet secretary was quote shocked by how the President
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was acting. He seemed disoriented and out of it, his
mouth agape. They knew they were worried. And you know what,
if our enemies attacked us, this was the commander in
chief that the Democrats and CNN and the lying corporate
media was telling us could protect us. And and look,
I don't know that I'd trust him to operate the
remote control on the television set.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
By the way, are they going to put this on
her fiction or nonfiction? That's what I want to know
when you go to the store, right if you go
look for like.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well sadly, I think they'll put it on under nonfiction,
which they should, because it is true that Joe Biden's
has had a massive mental deterioration. What they should put
under fiction is what Jake says on TV every day.
That's the fiction part. The irony is this may be
the one truth thing Jake Tapper has has written or
said in the last Hold on the Guy from Access.
It's actually true. It was someone else who wrote it
(15:34):
and his name name on it. Yeah, but but by
accident he told the truth, except for the fact that
he didn't admit that he's been lying to the country
the entire time Biden was in the White House.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So let's go back to the cabinet members, because this
is the big question. I was doing Fox and I
Waters World. Killy mcneie was filling in form White House
pressingcretary and she was talking about then when when some
of this was starting to break and I and I said, look,
the headlines are amazing, but I said. The real question
that I think we should all be asking, and I
want your take on this, is if all this is true,
(16:06):
and I have no reason believe it's not, who the
hell was the president of the United States of America.
Who was running the country? Was it thirty people that
were elected by no one? I don't think it was
one person. I think there's a very good chance that
the FBI was the president of the FBI and the
DoD was the president.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I mean, who the hell was running the country?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Actually, all right, That's why I ask you.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I've been asked that question probably a thousand times, and
I'm gonna give you the most terrifying answer you could imagine.
I don't know, Okay, I genuinely don't know. I think
it was Barack Obama. I think it was Barack Obama.
Barack Obama, certainly his minions, is the only president in
modern times who at the end of his presidency stayed
(16:49):
in DC, bought a big house in Calorama. Every night,
their cars in the driveway, and all of his little
apparachic minions are in the White House.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And I think it was a combination.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
When Joe Biden's White House was filled with staffers. I
want people to understand this. This is well reported, but
this is really important right now for this story. It
was well reported on that Biden and his team were
the one that placed everyone in the positions of power
in the Biden I mean Obama, I Saix's Obama and
his team placed everyone basically in a position of powers
(17:22):
in the Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So look, in four years of the Biden presidency, I'm
in the Senate the whole time. How many times do
you think I spoke with Joe Biden while he was president.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I would say one to three zero, And I was
saying one to three because I thought they were protecting him.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So you're saying, as a senator, and that's not normal.
People need to understand that.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Not a single time, and that is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How many times with Obama freeing?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Lots of times.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean I spoke with Obama regularly. With Trump, I
speak with him often every week, sometimes multiple times a week.
It is part of the job of being a senator
to work with the president, to talk with the president,
even the president of the opposing part.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Were there ever big lads with Obama? For example, I'm
trying to really paint a picture here of how insane
it is. You didn't talk to him for four years.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And the thing to understand is we all know Joe Biden.
He was in the Senate for four years. He was
a man of the Senate. When I was first elected
the Senate in twenty twelve, Joe Biden swore me in.
In fact, I'll tell you, without the cognitive decline, and
he was fine. Now when vice president thirteen years ago,
he did not have cognitive cline. And in fact, it
was funny. So my girls, you know, my daughters, they're
(18:30):
fourteen and seventeen. When I was sworn in, they were
two and four. They were little bitty and my two
year old Catherine, Biden leaned over to pick her up
and she screamed. She screamed really loudly, and Biden said,
it's okay, it's okay. It's a Democrat, but it's okay.
And that was actually quite funny.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I laughed.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And you don't how Time magazine does little quotes of
like the quotes of the week. Yeah, that next week,
the quote of the week was it's okay, it's okay,
it's a Democrat, but it's okay. Vice President Joe Biden
to Catherine Cruz age two, and I've said, you know,
when Catherine is married, hopefully a long long time from now,
I intend to read that quote at her wedding and say,
(19:10):
even at age two, Catherine knew if a Democrat tries
to pick you up.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Scream loudly.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I like that one. So where do we go from
And by the way, when.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I say I didn't speak with him for four years,
that was true of virtually every Republican senator.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So we would say that Democrat senators are talking to him.
They middle more.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The Democrats talked to him early.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
On because they were isolating him from what the book
saying from like everyone, so they talked to him a
little more. When when the Senates and session, Republican senators
have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so we
talk at lunch. It's they're working lunches, they're very productive.
We would sit at lunch and talk about how weird
it was that that none of us had spoken to Biden,
had been to the White House to see him, and
(19:52):
we all knew him. They were clearly hiding him. I
actually remember one of my colleagues. John Kennedy a good
friend Senator from Louisiana. He was one of the few
who had seen Biden one time, and he actually told
us all the story. We're sitting at the table and
he said, look, he had passed a bill. He said,
it was a fairly minor bill, but it was a
bipartisan bill that had passed, and Biden did a bill siding,
(20:12):
and so they brought him under. They brought him over
because they wanted to say, look how bipartisan were So
so Kennedy was in the oval and Biden was there,
and Kennedy started striking up a conversation with Biden, and
John knew him like we all did. And and Biden asked, so, John,
you ever seen the cabinet room? And John Kennedy being
John Kennedy, he said I lied and said no, and
(20:35):
he said, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, and he care where that was going? You say,
now to that question, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And so he takes him in there and he said.
Biden begins telling stories from like forty or fifty years ago,
and Kennedy said, the White House staff comes in freaking out.
Miss President got to go, you gotta go, And Biden
yells at him, shut up, I'm telling stories, and he said,
he went on for like thirty forty minutes, and it
was like listening to your grandfather who tell these same
(21:00):
stories and ever the same stories like fifty years ago.
They can remember, but but don't ask them what's happening today.
And and that was and he was literally at my
lunch table. I remember he was the only one of
us who had seen Biden since he's been president, and
and that was his one experience with him.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Will there be anything now that the mees accept this
as fact? They're reporting on this fact. Cabinet members were
worried about his capacity in a crisis. That's what they've said.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Is there going to be any oversight slash investigation? Should
there be? From Congress?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I know that's a weird question because there's somebody like, look,
we want let's move on, But like I do, actually,
as an American citizen, want to know who was running
the United States of America that was elected by no one.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I want to know who was calling the shots it
was elected by no one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because whether I win or lose an election, my vote
should not be canceled out by by some sort of
dictator or tyrant within an administration that no one knows
who's running a government.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And by the way, there's a related question to that
Ben which as we see the stories that apparently a
substantial number of official things that Biden signed were signed
by the autopen.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So was he even making the decision to sign them, right?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And he didn't even seem to know like some of
the pardons. And I actually think you'll have this litigated.
I don't not aware of any court that's ever decided
is is a pardon? Does a pardon have to actually
be signed by the president. So, look, every elected official
has an autopen. I have an autopen, and so for
things like constituent correspondence, if you write into your senator,
(22:28):
you'll get a response back, and we try to respond
substantively in the autop pen will sign it. And I
get millions of those letters, so I couldn't physically sign
them all.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
All I'm thinking about right now is how where that
autopen isn't how much fun I could happen keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But look, it's fine for if something like correspondence a
birthday wish, But the question is for something that has
legal force of law. And I actually want to know
did they use the autopen to sign any legislation, because
it's not clear to me legislation that the president didn't
sign has legal force. The autopen is not the commander
in chief and the chief judges.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
For example, if he didn't autopeny, which means I'm truly
convinced that he didn't know what was going on, he
didn't know who's appointing.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
He probably didn't know who's pardoning.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And if that happening, the parties are where it'll be litigated, okay,
and that will Why is that so different, because look,
it's it's interesting, like a pardon under the Constitution, all
you have to have is a document from the president
that said, you know, I I pardoned Ben Ferguson and
and and suddenly actually only if it's a federal offense,
so he can't.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, the abuse I take, the abuse I take.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But it literally there's no pomp and circumstance. It doesn't
have to have gold leaf on the paper, it doesn't
have to be an official it's just a piece of
paper with a signature with those words and his signature,
that is legally a pardon. But if you don't actually
have a signature. Listen, I've been in the oval dozens
of times, probably more when when President Trump is signing
(23:56):
things and pulls out he actually so have you seen
the pen? Okay, yeah, I've got I've got one of
the big sharpies, like most presidents use like a sharpie
to have a signing pen. But President Trump's it's a
marker that's probably what ten inches long.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And maybe golds like golden signature and like an inch.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
In diameter like it's it is massive.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But he signs one after the other, after the other
after the other, because that's what gives it legal force
of law. If you have a president that's mentally incompetent
and you have staffers running thing, it makes you wonder
doctor Fauci's pardon is it?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I don't know? Yeah, And if it's the auto pen,
which I'm sure they can figure that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Out, it will be It's an interesting question, you know.
I'll say a few more of these quotes from from
the cabinet members. The cabinet members in this book, uh
described said one said quote the staff did him wrong.
If you were with him every day and you knew
this was going to be a problem, why didn't you
go to him and say another said quote, access dropped
(25:02):
off considerably in twenty twenty four, and I didn't interact
with him as much. A third said quote, Yes, the
president is making the decisions, but if the inner circle
is shaping them in such a way, is it really
a decision? And here was another cabinet secretary. I don't
think he has dementia, but the thing is he's an
old man. The president can give you four to six
good hours a day when he got tired, sloppy isn't
(25:25):
the right word, but his guard was down. That would
be the commander in chief of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I want to go back to the last quote, Sata,
that you just said about the people around the president.
Now that it's over, now that everybody knows the cognit decline,
now that the books are being written, they're telling you
they may have only gotten four hours a day out
of the president units Asperagra. That is maybe one of
the most shocking statements I've ever heard about any president.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yet, look, it's he was not mentally capable to do
the job. They knew it, and they lied about it.
And by the way, Jake Tapper's whole premise that gosh,
little old mea was deceived. They just didn't tell me
the truth.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I just didn't know. Well, Jake, if you listened to.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Verdict, we were telling you the facts, and we were
telling you the facts early on par I want you
to go back to January of twenty twenty four. I
want you to listen to a segment of Benemy in
the podcast back in January of twenty four talking about
Biden's deterioration.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Give a listen.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You and I and kind of anyone with eyes and
common sense have been observing for a long time that
Joe Biden's cognitive decline is massive.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
But it's easy for.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Some observers to dismiss that and say, you know, these
guys are biased, they're partisans, they don't like Biden, so
what they're saying is not true. In this instance, the
people speaking are the Biden Department of Justice and not
any department of justice. This is an apartment of Justice
that has proven itself the most politicized and partisan department
(26:58):
of justice in history, and they have argued. So, for example,
I'm going to read you a paragraph from the report.
In his interview with our office, mister Biden's memory was worse.
He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting
on the first day of the interview when his term
(27:19):
ended quote if it was twenty thirteen, when did I
stop being vice president? And forgetting on the second day
of the interview when his term began quote in two
thousand and nine, am I still vice president? He did
not remember even within several years when his son Bo died,
(27:43):
and his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate
that was once so important to him, among other things,
he mistakenly said he quote had a real difference of
opinion with General or Aitkenberry, when in fact Aitkinberry was
(28:04):
an ally whom mister Biden cited approvingly in his Thanksgiving
memo to President Obama. All of that was authored by
the Biden Department of Justice. And when they are describing
the sitting president as a well meaning elderly man with
a poor memory, the natural question for anyone to say is,
(28:27):
holy crap. If he's not competent to stand trial, why
is he the commander in chief with the authority to
send our sons and daughters into harm's way? Why does
he have access to the nuclear codes? Understand the description here?
They say, you couldn't charge him with a crime because
he's not aware of enough to have the requisite mental intent.
(28:49):
And yet Joe Biden tonight, if he's so desired, could
literally exterminate humanity from the face of the planet. As
commander in chief, if he gave the order launch the
nuclear weapons. Now, unless the military refused to obey the
commander in chief, Joe Biden could exterminate every life on
(29:11):
this planet. And if he's not mentally competent to stand trial,
that is terrifying. So that was a year and a
half ago, a year and a half ago on this podcast.
And understand the entire basis at Tapper's book is he
couldn't possibly know about known about this mental decline. The
Department of Justice in this would be the Biden Department
of Justice went into court. So the Robert Herr Report,
(29:34):
Remember they did not prosecute Biden.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And where was that? I wonder do you remember the
timeframe on that.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That was early twenty four. Yeah, we covered it a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And that with them interviewing him in twenty three.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So in twenty three when they were interviewing Joe Biden,
they then in twenty four told America he's so bad off.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
We can't even charge him with anything.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So they concluded if they charged him, he would be
found not competent to the convicted. That is a stunning. Look,
there's a standard. There are people that are not competent
to be tried. If you have dementia, if you're like
mentally ill, that you're not able that The legal standard
is you have to form what's called mensraa, which is intent.
And they said, well, he's so old and senile, we
(30:16):
can't charge him. So that's why they said, oh, yeah,
he clearly violated the law. He committed a felony. Remember
he kept classified materials everywhere, including his garage next to
his antique car.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Now to joke, that's real.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And they said he was guilty of that, but they
couldn't charge him because he was incompetent to stan trial.
I want you to listen in twenty twenty three to
me laying out his mental decline and MSNBC Morning Joe
making fun of me for it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
This was like one of their big intros. May fourth,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Twenty eleven, when Republicans in the House stood strong on
the death ceiling again because Democrats had had majority of
the Congress for two years had passed trillions in irresponsible spend,
and Republicans stood strong and said, we will not raise
the debt ceiling without serious fiscal reform.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Then Vice President Joe Biden came and negotiated a deal,
a deal called the Budget Control Act. Vice President Biden
sat down with House Republicans and reached a meaningful compromise.
President Joe Biden needs to do the same thing, and
I'll say sadly the reason he hasn't so far, I
(31:29):
believe is because his mental faculties are too diminished.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Right now, you know, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
He has such a point. His mental faculties are so
diminished that he passed more bipartisan signed more bipartisan legislation.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was doing it last year.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Any president since LBJ My god, if he were as
coaching as he had been than twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But he could have been like you could have gone
back to FDR.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
What else he did without without apparently realizing what he
was doing. He like held NATO together to fight Russian
aggression in Ukraine, and and.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
My god, I know he only increased eight hundred mile
border in NATO.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
With Russia exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I guess he you know, he thought he was happen.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
You know, it reminds me of Ronald Reagan when he
was speaking at Harvard, a Eurekan College grad and he's
sitting there talking to the grads and he's making fun
of his education. At the end, he goes, you know,
sometimes I just sit here with a presidential seal in
front of him, and I wonder what I could have
been with a good.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Go back and read.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
David, go back and read Reagan. He says, by golly,
I mean, I love this. And by the way, we
do know who was doing it now. It was either
an auto pin or a bunch of old staffers.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
So I'm curious that I may have missed this. But
as Joe Scarborough apologized for lying to America, no.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's probably writing a book about the decline of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
How they apologized, as MSNBC, as NBC, if any of
them apologized, they knew he was mentally diminished, and they
covered it up because they were partisans, and they have
supported his agenda to heck with whether we had a
competent commander in chief or not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
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