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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator we are finally getting some intel from
the Harris campaign on exactly how they're going to run
this presidential campaign through election day, and it seems like
they're taking a play out of the playbook of Joe
Biden's election just four years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, that's right. We're eighty eight days out from election
day and it is now clear how Kamala Harris and
the Democrats intend to run this campaign. Kamala Harris is
effectively entered with witness protection. They're doing everything they can
to shut her up, to keep her silent. Since she
became the presumptive Democratic nominee, she's done a total of
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zero media interviews. She's done a total of zero press conferences.
She doesn't answer questions, she doesn't add lib. And look,
there's a reason why she doesn't add lib. We've all
seen a million different clips of her saying bizarre thing,
saying things that are unintelligible, laughing bizarrely. The Democrats don't
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want any of that. So here's what the next eighty
eight days are going to entail. The next eighty eight
days are going to entail Kamala reading from a teleprompter.
She's going to read from a teleprompter, work for work,
speech after speech, rally for rally. She's going to read
what they type out for her to say. Beyond that,
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she's not going to talk to any reporters. She's going
to stay in the basement. For all I know, it
may be the basement next to Joe Biden, who's tied
up in the basement. And their plan, their plan that
they believe they'll win on, is for the corporate media
to spend billions of dollars doing a massive pr campaign.
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It is cynical. It is a cynical basement strategy, and
it is a basement strategy that has a potential to work.
And so we need to understand just how formidable it is.
We're going to break it down. We're going to talk
about what it means for this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, it's really interesting to see this strategy, especially since
she's able bodied and supposed to be the young, vibrant candidate.
How they're going to sell this the American people of
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there was two interesting headlines that really I think encompass
what's happening with Harris campaign and hiding her. One of
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them was Harris quote refuses to comment on Trump's debate challenge.
Then she refused to comment about doing an interview. Then
the campaign quote declined request for comment about why Harris
declines requests for comment on the issues of the campaign.
That is a headline you cannot make up well.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And this is going to be their strategy for the
next eighty eight days. And listen, if if you're a Democratic,
stand why this is attractive. To be honest, this was
their strategy in the last election. Joe Biden four years
ago already had severe mental diminution. He was not mentally
up to the campaign. And what did they do. They
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literally locked him in the basement. I don't know if
the White House has a basement, but if they have,
it wouldn't surprise me if they had him chained to
a wall. I mean, he was not allowed out, he
was not allowed in camera site, he was not allowed
to speak to a microphone. And I think they put
Kamala in the same cell. And it's you know, from
the Democrats perspective, if your candidate is really good, if
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your candidate is impressive, if your candidate is charming, if
your candidate has powerful and profound things to say, then
you want to get your candidate out there. You want
to inspire people, You want to show this is our
candidate's vision for America. So there's a problem for Kamala Harrison.
For Democrats, their vision for America, it's terrible. It is radical.
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It is extreme. Kamala's vision for America is open borders
for four more years. Kamala's vision for America's trillions more
in spending, trillions more in debt and as a result,
inflation skyrocketing. Kamala's vision for America is releasing violent criminals
from jail. Kamala's vision for America is undermining our friends
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and allies, especially the state of Israel. Kamala's vision for
America is continuing to show weakness and appeasement to our enemies,
to Hamas, to Hesbla, to Iran, to Venezuela, to North Korea,
to China, to RuSHA to all of them. And if
you're thinking about it, that's not a very attractive campaign
to actually try to win in November. So they don't
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want to do any of that. What they want to
do instead scripts that are sort of vaguely affirming. Remember, look,
Obama ran on a campaign of hope and change. They're
trying to have Commala run on a similar campaign open change,
hope and change, don't ask what the hope is, don't
ask what the change is. In her speech that's written
for it, starting to say, she's starting to say I'm
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going to take on the big corporations and drive down inflation.
I never mind that she is part of the incumbent administration.
She and Joe Biden are the sitting Vice president and
president of the United States. So if there's some magic
wand that the president has, presumably she and Joe would
be waving it. It's empty rhetoric. But I got to
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tell you Bennett is dangerous because I think from the
press's perspective, there's a very real possibility. Not only are
they going to let her get away with it, they're
going to be actively complicit because basically what they're doing
it is there punting to the press and saying, you
guys got this, we got eighty eight days. Tell the
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message every day, and to be honest, at least a
couple of weeks into it, it's working. From from Kamala's perspective,
things are going much much better than they were just
a couple of weeks ago. And and and Ben, let's
also pause and think what a four weeks we've had
in politics. In four weeks in politics, we've seen President
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Trump shot at and nearly assassinated. We've seen Joe Biden,
the sitting president unceremoniously removed from the presidential ballot. We've
seen Donald Trump pick his vice presidential nominee. We've seen
Kamala Harris pick her vice presidential nominee. That's all happened
in four and I got to say, the entire race
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has been turned topsy turvy. And now they want to
keep Kamala muzzled and hidden at all times.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, you look at the headline and this one
is one of those that just it's a it's a
head scratcher quote. Kama Harris vows to schedule an interview
before the end of the month. Traditionally, Senator, when you're
running for office, especially when you're running for the presidency,
you want to do interviews.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You want to be seen. You want people to be listening.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
To your messaging, your agenda, your plan right, your goals
and aspirations for the country.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's part of campaigning.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But when you walk into this thing and you'r Harris
and you are a radical, you're a socialists, communist, Marxist,
and maybe your agenda isn't that palable to the American people?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Is that part of the strategy?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Why they're like, okay, look, we can.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hide her and we don't do the interviews, right, Maybe
we do one here or there. We'll pick somebody that'll
be easy, hon us, and we'll just let the media
write the story. Donald Trump bad, Kamwa Harrison not as bad,
and that might get us to election day.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well. And it's difficult to overstate how strange that is.
Like in a campaign, doing media interviews is number one,
I think a responsibility you owe. But number two, it's
a vehicle typically for getting your message out. So as
you and I are sitting here right now recording this,
it is twelve twenty two in the morning, and I
am on the highway driving back from Austin to Houston.
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I'm in the middle of a campaign, so I'm campaigning.
Just today on Thursday, I've done multiple media interviews. That's
what one does when one's running for re election per senate,
much less if you're running to be president of the
United States. And it is striking that we are weeks
into her campaign and she's done none. Now look, I
fully expect she's going to get a couple of servile
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journalists to come up and give her some softball interview
and tell her Madam Vice President tell us now, and
this is the really important question. The American people want
to know, are you more beautiful or are you more brilliant?
How do you answer that that? I'm sure they'll do that.
They'll tee up some fawning sick of fans if we
had a functioning press co. All right, let's take for
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example this week. This week we had a really consequential
set of primaries in Missouri, and in particular, Corey Bush,
one of the members of the Squad, Corey Bush, was
beaten in a Democrat primary. Now, Corey Bush's views are noxious,
they're radical to their extreme. Corey Bush, like Kamala Harris,
has been a leading voice for abolishing the police and
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defunding the police. Corey Bush, like Kamala Harris, has been
viciously anti Israel, has courted the pro Hamas wing of
the Democrat Party. In fact, she is the pro Hamas
wing of the Democrat Party. Corey Bush was beaten, and
was beaten significantly in a Democrat primary, and you know,
hadn't said a word about it, Kamala Harris, not a word,
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nothing to say about it, nothing to see here. Now,
if you actually had reporters that said, you know, I
got a job. I'm actually a reporter. I'm supposed to ask,
not the questions that the campaign wants me to asked.
I'm supposed to ask the difficult questions. Someone would have
asked Kamala Harris before the primary on Tuesday, Hey Kamala,
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what do you think of Corey Bush? Should she win
her primary or not? Nobody asked that. She didn't answer that.
After Corey Bush is beaten, Hey, Kamala, what do you
think about one of the squad members being beaten? What
do you think about the fact that she's the second
squad member beaten this year? Jamal Bowman in New York
was beaten earlier this year, again in a Democrat primary.
What do you think about that? By the way, Corey Bush,
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when she lost, gave this vicious anti Israel, anti Semitic
speech where she blamed Apak Now that if you're a
hardcore leftist, is the best villain imaginable?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
A pack?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, You're you're envisioning like like Mephistopheles twirling his mustache
as you say a pack. That's who she blamed. Does
anyone ask Kamala Harris, Hey, Kamala, who are you with?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Are you with?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Corey Busher or do you agree with APEX that's true.
APEC raised a bunch of money against Corey Bush. Why
because Corey Bush has been viciously anti Israel and APEK
is a group that raises money to strengthen the US
Israel relationship. But Kamala is trying to walk a tight
rope where she wants the support of the Squad. She
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wants the support of the Squad supporters, She wants the
support of the Rabbit anti Semites in Dearborn, Michigan. She
wants the support of the Rabbit anti Semites in Minnesota
in the Democrat Party, but she also doesn't want to
alienate the other votes she needs. And right now the
media is perfectly okay with nothing to see here. Let's
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get back to saying what a great, wonderful historic candidate
you are. And oh, oh oh, did you see the
crowds at her rallies? Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Hosanna, Hosanna, hosanna.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So let's go to Tim then, how important is he
as a vp it if they're going to hide her
because he hasn't exactly had the best rollout either.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
He is a radical, far left guy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They've tried to turn him into some sort of you know,
moderate individual that's been backfiring in an incredible way. He's
someone that has repeatedly called, for example, for universal health care.
That's really come to be an issue over the last
twenty four hours. He also says he wants to raise
taxes on Americans in a big way, saying that the
rich need to pay their fair share. And then just
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some of his radical beliefs now that he's having to
answer questions about abortion on demand, you know, voter ID
that he didn't want to have, and allowing illegal immigrants
to be involved in politics at a local level.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He'd even mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
These are things that are coming back to I think
haunt the campaign in a sense.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do they hide him as well?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Listen, Historically, vice presidential picks have not made a huge difference.
That's something Trump has said a number of times, and
he's right in that. Historically, presidential elections are about the
presidential nominees and the VP typically has a very marginal
impact on the edges. A VP can make a difference
in the given state sometimes, But I will say right now,
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I think the folks on the writer are very focused
on Tim Waltz. That's fine, but the biggest value of
Tim Waltz is to illustrate how radical Kamala is, because
Kamala is the nominee, and understand, Kamala is a wild
eyed leftist. As the nonpartisan gov Track website identified, she
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was in twenty nineteen the single most liberal United States
senator out of one hundred. She was number one hundred,
the most extreme to the left, to the left of
Bernie Sanders, to the left of Elizabeth Warren. So it
is not surprising that she picks as her VP not
Josh Shapiro, a for ce moderate Democrat who could potentially
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deliver a swing state, but who would piss off the
Prohomas core of the Democrat Party because he's Jewish and
by the way, it really speaks volumes. Just how bad
an actually here heert. I want on this point, I
want to play a segment from CNN because I want
you to listen to CNN the commentators talking about how
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that they're kind of glad that Kamala didn't pick Josh Shapiro.
Why because it would tick off the radicals and the
Prohomace base of the Democrat Party. And they said, well,
that'd be bad. We don't want to tick them off.
And Jake Tapper, I got to say, and and I
wish this was one of our video episodes. It's just audio.
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I wish you could see it, but you ought to
just listen because he is so uncomfortable because the CNN
commentators are basically saying, well, she obviously couldn't pick a
jew because the leftists and the Democrat Party would get
really mad if heer nominee was Jewish. And you can
see Jake Papper going, no, no, stop stop saying this.
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But give a listen to this exchange because it really
shows number one, how poisoned and extreme the Democrat Party
has been, as reflected by their mouthpieces on CNN. But
number two, it shows that Tim Waltz pick I think
is very revealing of who Kamala Harris is. Give a listen.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
And I think ultimately Shapiro, I think fit is important.
But you know, I also think that when you look
at the principle of do no harm, maybe they did
say in a state like Minnesota, do we want to
those one hundred thousand uncommitted voters who came out about
the Gaza war? Do we want to antagonize those voters.
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Those are all parts of part of the questions as well.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
But I just say Tim Walls also spoke conciliatorily towards
those people. He said, look, that uncommitted vote is significant
and those people should be heard. So having that kind
of response, I think is probably more of an open
door to the parts of the party that had been
very frustrated with the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So but just to just to one point on the
on the on the God's War, Shapiro has the same
position on Israel that Governor Walls that the Senator Kelly has.
He's actually been more critical of Netta Yahu than the
other two.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But he is Jewish and also.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
The face of the crackdown on the protests, right, he
spoke very vehemently about those campus protests as being anti Semitic.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Not all of them, the ones that were anti semitic
he criticized as being anti Semitic.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
He was out front on the issue. So I'm wondering
if that's the kind of thing that again for the
activist wing of the party.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Absolutely, it was a slap in the face.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You hear that, and I have to think that this
is going to start hurting Harris and Waltz's campaign if
you just alienated Jewish voters like this, but not just that,
those that also stand with Israel. And I do have
friends that are liberal that stand with Israel and are
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proud to stand with Israel. This is not going to
sit well with them either.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, and look, look CNN is reporting there, and again,
I wish you could see Jake Tapper. You and I
both know Jake Tapper, but if you watch the video
of this, Tapper is so painfully uncomfortable with what the
CNN commentator is saying. Because the CNN commentators like, well,
you know, there are a bunch of voters in Minnesota
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that that voted uncommitted. Why because they were mad at
Joe Biden that he wasn't anti Israel enough. Yes, he'd
undermined Israel from day one, but but he was willing
to provide some weapons to Israel and they were mad,
and so so you know, maybe this was a wise
decision to go with Waltson not Shapiro. And it's interesting
Tapper goes, well, wait a second, on the policy positions.
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Shapiro's stated policy is the same as Waltz's is the
same as Mark Kelly's is the difference that he's Jewish
And the commentator doesn't answer, but the answer is basically,
well yeah, no, no, no, no, they're Matt. They don't want yeah,
and he won Jewish on the ticket, Like, it's not
the policy, it's the fact that he's Jewish. And then
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so she actually goes back said She's like, no, no, no,
She tries to dodge, and she says, no, no, no, it's
that he denounced the anti Semitic protests on campus. And
Tapper's like, well, yeah, the ones that were anti Semitic.
And the commentary is like, woll well, well you just
you don't want to make the people mad who like
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anti Semitic protests. But like that was her argument is
because he is Jewish. She didn't admit that, but that
was obviously what she meant. And b because he dared
say viciously anti Semitic protesters are wrong, that the risk
was too high for him to be on the ticket.
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And so where instead did Kamala go? And she went
to Tim Waltson and listen again, I think we should
not obsess about Tim Waltz. He's not gonna matter a
whole lot at the end of the day. Now, the media,
as much as they're trying to turn Kamala into Saint Kamala,
they're trying to turn Tim Walton Nanny Griffin. He is
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a Midwestern coach, He's a dad. He's gosh, golly ge woooo.
I mean, he's just a nice old fella. He like
pets himself some dogs, and he's just gosh, Grandpa Joe
and this guy. Okay, I'm going to give some unsolicited
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advice to the Trump campaign. Focus on the substance of
Kamala Harris's record and Tim Waltz's record. Both of them
are radical and extreme. Don't get don't get distracted. Don't
go down to digression. The media wants you to go
down to digression. These two are the most radical two
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people ever nominated by a major party to be president
and vice president. Their records are identical. The reason Kamala
Harris picked Tim Waltz is she wanted a fellow radical.
And actually, one illustration that I that I think really
speaks volumes. You know you look at you and I've
talked about this before. Bernie Sanders, my colleague in the Senate,
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when he got married, he made the decision to honeymoon
in the Soviet Union. Now that's bizarre, like like I
don't know who says, Okay, I'm on my honeymoon. Where
do I want to go? The Soviet Union? Comrade, that's
where I want to be. Look, Heidi and I we
went to Saint Thomas. We went to the beach. It
was really pretty. We had some bararitas Doc Daker's. We
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walked barefoot in the sand, like like, that's what you do.
Where did you guys go in your honeymoon?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Ben?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And if you say to sob Union? We went down.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, we went down to Mexico exactly. It was like, hey,
where's a direct flight out of Houston.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It was like stopa San Wattineo for a week, and
then I surprised her with a second week. She thought
we were flying home, and I called her boss at
Saint Jude and I said, look, can I'm only going
to get two weeks off my whole life one time?
Can I please surprise her? And we went the second
week to Cabo.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You are a romantic son of a gun. I've ever
been to Zewaddejo. All I know is it's where Tim
Robbins was going to go in Shawshank Redemption, And it
sure looked pretty in the in the film, but I
haven't been there. What was it gorgeous?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You put it on your list, it's in It is
one of the most gorgeous places I've ever been in
my entire life.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, so let me ask you, do you regret instead
of going to zewat Dejo and walking into the sand,
that you didn't go to the Soviet Union and pay
homage to Marks and Lennon and the heroes of the revolution.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Like that's the yeah, you know, And yeah, it was
a It was a toss up, right, It was a
big toss up which one would which one would be
better of a surprise, go to go to Russian and
maybe never come back, or go to Mexico and hang
out on the beach.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So the reason it's relevant to talk about where Bernie
went on this honeymoon is it shows what his values are,
what he what he admires, what he cares about, who
he wants to be. Well, Tim Waltz on his honeymoon
went to communist China. Now that's a little weird, but
there's a second piece. And we talked about the fact
that he went to communist China on Wednesday, spot. But
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the second piece that broke on Thursday that I didn't
know for Wednesday, Spot. Do you know what day Tim
Waltz chose to get married on?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
See when this when this broke, I was immediate like
this is going to be some internet like rumor, it's
going to get fact check. It's not going to be real.
I was like, there's no way, and then sure enough
it is real and you can tell the audience exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He chose to get married on the anniversary of the
Tianmen Square massacre, the Tianamen Square, where you had hundreds
of thousands, if not millions, of Chinese standing up for freedom,
standing up against oppression, standing up against the oppressive communist bastards,
and the Chinese tyrannical governments sent in tanks mowed them down,
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and it is it was an incredible moment of heroism
on the part of the students and the young people
standing up against tyranny. And it was an incredible moment
of brutality on the part of the regime stomping them down.
And I gotta say the only word I know to
describe somebody who chooses to get married on the anniversary
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of Tannemen Square and then Honeymoons and Communist China. The
only word I know to describe is weird, which is
really funny because, well, like the only thing anyone knows
about him is he started running around saying Donald Trump
and JD. Vans are weird, and it's like, dude, that
is weird.
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me also ask you another question, and that's gonna be
the debate. We there was a debate that was offered up.
Kamala Harris said, no, that was gonna be on Fox.
Now apparently they've agreed to another debate on one of
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the major networks. And if she's not doing interviews and
you have to put out press statements, you know that
Vice President Harris pledges a scheduled interview before the end
of the month after speaking with her team on Thursday.
Quote it's unclear if the interview will take place in
the last three weeks of August or whether the interview
scheduled interview scheduling will take place before August ends, quote unquote,
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But Harris, as you mentioned at the beginning of the show,
has not given one unscripted press conference since she joined
the president to race eighteen days ago. To use the
you know Waltz's favorite word, that's weird, and may continue
to avoid the press until Labor Day twenty five days
from now twenty four Now a long time. Here's Ally
(28:02):
told Politico for their publication basically, I think limiting expectations.
And now you look at this, you go, Okay, she's
going into hiding. How important is the next president of debate?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Then well look, Trump came out and challenged her to
three presidential debates, and that's a very normal thing to do.
If you look in history at modern times, there have
typically been three presidential debates and usually one vice presidential debate.
That's been the history for a long time. And so
what Trump challenged her to, he challenged her to it
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on three different networks. That was a very reasonable challenge.
I don't think she'll accept. My prediction is we will
see one presidential debate between Trump and Kamala. I think
her team would love that to be zero, but I
think they will probably make the judgment that zero would
project so much weakness that it would be a problem.
(28:56):
I think the chances that they agree to three are
essentially zero because from their perspective, why would they Every
day they are getting tens of millions of dollars of
free press, and the press is just running a twenty
four hour infomercial for her, So why would she do
anything to take the Kamala Harris infomercial off TV? The
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press wants her to win. I think they will feel
like we got to do one, and by the way,
and we'll talk about this as the debate approaches. Look,
that debate has has risks for both of them. It
has risks for her because when she's unscripted when she's
ad living, she can say all sorts of zany things
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that are not terribly impressive. But it also has risks
for trumpet in particular, it has risks for Trump of
being too aggressive, too mean, and that has a potential
to backfire. Kamala is not Joe Biden, and so you know,
from the Democrat perspective, I think they would hope that
Trump would come across as a bully or or mean,
(30:03):
because I think they would they would be calculating that
doing so might well push swing voters to Kamala. And
so where I think we'll end up is one debate
September or October. I think Trump rightly will keep putting on.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
ABC News has apparently yeah, well, ABC News has now
apparently confirmed that both Trump and Harris quote have agreed
to basic terms for their debate on September the tenth.
So you're saying, you believe there's a very good chance
that may be the only debate they do.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And remember that was the previously agreed debate that that
Joe Biden had also agreed to that Trump initially was
pushing back and not wanting and saying, how about we
do Fox instead and Kamala didn't want to do that.
It's they both now said Okay, we'll do ABC on
September tenth. I'd love to see three debates. I think
it would be better for democracy. I think would be
(30:57):
it would be better for the American people, for the voters.
But I think Kamala Harris and the Democrats do not
give a flying flip about democracy, don't give a flying
flip about the voters. They every single day that she
does nothing, the media is campaigning for twenty four hours
a day, and I think their entire strategy is don't
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get in the way of the media campaign unfolding right now.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And I look to Vegas every once a while because
it just I find it fascinating to see where they
and how they rank the race. You look at this
media propaganda that is historic on its scale for Harris
and all of the money that's flown in to boost
her and the ads that are running.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Everyone I think has seen them.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Now she is now only at even odds with Trump
in Vegas. This after they've thrown everything that they have
at Harris to try to save the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And the question is, is the Kamala honeymoon over.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If it is, if it's straight up forty ninety nine
in Vegas right now, is this now going to turn
into somewhat of an actual and real campaign.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Look, I hope.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
So.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I still believe Trump is gonna win in November, and
that we're going to see UH a very good election
where Republicans win the White House, we win the Senate,
and we win the House. That's what I think is
likely to happen. That being said, the chances of that
today are significantly less than they were three weeks ago.
Three weeks ago in Milwaukee, and you and I did
several podcasts from Milwaukee live from the convention. UH in Milwaukee,
(32:38):
the feeling was exuberant. In fact, you and I talked
about on this podcast. At the convention, I was worried,
I said at the time, I think Republicans are over confident,
that that that we feel like the race is over.
We're celebrating. You and I had conversations with people there
that that that that that were already handing out cabinet
positions and and and my view is the time for
(33:00):
celebration is after the election, not before. Now. The reason
there was such a sense of exuberance is because Joe
Biden was the opponent, and I think if Joe Biden
stayed the opponent, Trump would have won easily. And the
problem was Democrats came to that same conclusion, Oh crap,
we're going to lose if Biden's the president is the nominee.
So they yanked him out of the way and pushed
(33:21):
him aside and replaced him with Kamalin. Right now, three
weeks later, we've seen three weeks of relentless propaganda for Kamala,
and we have also seen so Trump, for much of
his presidential time and much of his campaigning time, has
been able to dominate the free media narrative, has been
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able to drive the stories. The past three weeks, the
free media narrative has all been about Kamala. And I
think one challenge that I'm sure the Trump campaign has
focused on right now is how they drive the free
media narrative in a way that highlights how rat extreme
Kama is. And I would say, I think it's a
(34:03):
mistake for them to get into personal issues, issues that
are unrelated to Kamala's extreme record, and in particular how
it impacts people listen every election, I think is decided
to give.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Us an example of what you mean by that, give
us an example, because you said not getting into personal stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Every election, I think is decided by the same basic question,
are you better off today than you were four years ago?
I think the Trump campaign ought to be discussing every
single day how ordinary people's lives are worse, how young
people coming out of school, look, newly married, looking to
(34:47):
buy their first home, are discovering that if you try
to buy a home with a seven or eight percent
mortgage instead of a two and a half percent mortgage,
you get half the house you used to be able
to get four years ago. Talking about seniors who are
discovering every one of their bills has gone up uh
and yet their income is not keeping pace. Talking about
(35:10):
families who are scared because illegal immigrants are being released
every single day, as I said on the stage in Milwaukee,
every damn day, an American is murdered, a woman is raped,
a child is assaulted and brutalized by illegal immigrants released
by Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and I think the Trump
(35:32):
campaign should focus on how to drive the narrative every day.
Both their they're paid messaging but also as much as
possible the earned media on how people's lives are worse
now because of the failures. Kamala Harris should not be
able to run on the hypothetical of what a Harris
(35:54):
presidency would look like because you know what she and
Joe have been in office for four years. We know
exactly what it looks like, and it's a train wreck.
And the Trump campaign, I think needs to that make
that the topic of discussion as much as possible every
day between now an election day.
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do you prep if you're Donald Trump right now for
attacking a candidate that's in hiding. I mean it's different
because the last time it was, the attack was pretty clear.
The line was he's incapacitated, he can't do the job,
(38:36):
referring to Biden. You can't use that line against Harris.
So what do you do to undermine her in hiding?
Do you say, Hey, I thought she was able bodied,
I guess she's not, and try to bait her that way?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What's the strategy?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Look, I think you focus on substance. Her policies are extreme,
Her record is extreme. Her record is a failure. Her
record is hurting you. Your life is worse off. You know,
if you look at across the country, virtually no one
answers the question, yes, are you better off today than
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you were four years ago? Unless you happen to be
a big tech billionaire or a Mexican drug lord. And
by the way, if you're a Mexican drug lord, you
ought to vote for Kabala and Waltz. They're clearly the
candidate for you. If you're a big tech billionaire, they're
your candidate too. But but, but if you're a steel worker,
if if you're a suburban mom, if you're a young person,
(39:36):
if you're somebody, if you're a senior, if you're somebody
who loves America, if you're somebody who wants your kids safe,
if you're someone who wants your grandkids safe, if you're
someone who wants to see peace and prosperity in the
world and not h not chaos, then you ought that.
Then the choice is a lot clearer. And and that's
(39:56):
what I think the Trump campaign needs to be looking
every day to make that real and personal and why
it matters to you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, great point. Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator we are finally getting some intel from
the Harris campaign on exactly how they're going to run
this presidential campaign through election day, and it seems like
they're taking a play out of the playbook of Joe
Biden's election just four years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, that's right. We're eighty eight days out from election
day and it is now clear how Kamala Harris and
the Democrats intend to run this campaign. Kamala Harris is
effectively entered with witness protection. They're doing everything they can
to shut her up, to keep her silent. Since she
became the presumptive Democratic nominee, she's done a total of
(00:45):
zero media interviews. She's done a total of zero press conferences.
She doesn't answer questions, she doesn't add lib. And look,
there's a reason why she doesn't add lib. We've all
seen a million different clips of her saying bizarre thing,
saying things that are unintelligible, laughing bizarrely. The Democrats don't
(01:05):
want any of that. So here's what the next eighty
eight days are going to entail. The next eighty eight
days are going to entail Kamala reading from a teleprompter.
She's going to read from a teleprompter, work for work,
speech after speech, rally for rally. She's going to read
what they type out for her to say. Beyond that,
(01:25):
she's not going to talk to any reporters. She's going
to stay in the basement. For all I know, it
may be the basement next to Joe Biden, who's tied
up in the basement. And their plan, their plan that
they believe they'll win on, is for the corporate media
to spend billions of dollars doing a massive pr campaign.
(01:46):
It is cynical. It is a cynical basement strategy, and
it is a basement strategy that has a potential to work.
And so we need to understand just how formidable it is.
We're going to break it down. We're going to talk
about what it means for this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, it's really interesting to see this strategy, especially since
she's able bodied and supposed to be the young, vibrant candidate.
How they're going to sell this the American people of
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there was two interesting headlines that really I think encompass
what's happening with Harris campaign and hiding her. One of
(04:03):
them was Harris quote refuses to comment on Trump's debate challenge.
Then she refused to comment about doing an interview. Then
the campaign quote declined request for comment about why Harris
declines requests for comment on the issues of the campaign.
That is a headline you cannot make up well.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And this is going to be their strategy for the
next eighty eight days. And listen, if if you're a Democratic,
stand why this is attractive. To be honest, this was
their strategy in the last election. Joe Biden four years
ago already had severe mental diminution. He was not mentally
up to the campaign. And what did they do. They
(04:47):
literally locked him in the basement. I don't know if
the White House has a basement, but if they have,
it wouldn't surprise me if they had him chained to
a wall. I mean, he was not allowed out, he
was not allowed in camera site, he was not allowed
to speak to a microphone. And I think they put
Kamala in the same cell. And it's you know, from
the Democrats perspective, if your candidate is really good, if
(05:08):
your candidate is impressive, if your candidate is charming, if
your candidate has powerful and profound things to say, then
you want to get your candidate out there. You want
to inspire people, You want to show this is our
candidate's vision for America. So there's a problem for Kamala Harrison.
For Democrats, their vision for America, it's terrible. It is radical.
(05:31):
It is extreme. Kamala's vision for America is open borders
for four more years. Kamala's vision for America's trillions more
in spending, trillions more in debt and as a result,
inflation skyrocketing. Kamala's vision for America is releasing violent criminals
from jail. Kamala's vision for America is undermining our friends
(05:52):
and allies, especially the state of Israel. Kamala's vision for
America is continuing to show weakness and appeasement to our enemies,
to Hamas, to Hesbla, to Iran, to Venezuela, to North Korea,
to China, to RuSHA to all of them. And if
you're thinking about it, that's not a very attractive campaign
to actually try to win in November. So they don't
(06:12):
want to do any of that. What they want to
do instead scripts that are sort of vaguely affirming. Remember, look,
Obama ran on a campaign of hope and change. They're
trying to have Commala run on a similar campaign open change,
hope and change, don't ask what the hope is, don't
ask what the change is. In her speech that's written
for it, starting to say, she's starting to say I'm
(06:33):
going to take on the big corporations and drive down inflation.
I never mind that she is part of the incumbent administration.
She and Joe Biden are the sitting Vice president and
president of the United States. So if there's some magic
wand that the president has, presumably she and Joe would
be waving it. It's empty rhetoric. But I got to
(06:56):
tell you Bennett is dangerous because I think from the
press's perspective, there's a very real possibility. Not only are
they going to let her get away with it, they're
going to be actively complicit because basically what they're doing
it is there punting to the press and saying, you
guys got this, we got eighty eight days. Tell the
(07:18):
message every day, and to be honest, at least a
couple of weeks into it, it's working. From from Kamala's perspective,
things are going much much better than they were just
a couple of weeks ago. And and and Ben, let's
also pause and think what a four weeks we've had
in politics. In four weeks in politics, we've seen President
(07:41):
Trump shot at and nearly assassinated. We've seen Joe Biden,
the sitting president unceremoniously removed from the presidential ballot. We've
seen Donald Trump pick his vice presidential nominee. We've seen
Kamala Harris pick her vice presidential nominee. That's all happened
in four and I got to say, the entire race
(08:02):
has been turned topsy turvy. And now they want to
keep Kamala muzzled and hidden at all times.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, you look at the headline and this one
is one of those that just it's a it's a
head scratcher quote. Kama Harris vows to schedule an interview
before the end of the month. Traditionally, Senator, when you're
running for office, especially when you're running for the presidency,
you want to do interviews.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You want to be seen. You want people to be listening.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
To your messaging, your agenda, your plan right, your goals
and aspirations for the country.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's part of campaigning.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But when you walk into this thing and you'r Harris
and you are a radical, you're a socialists, communist, Marxist,
and maybe your agenda isn't that palable to the American people?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Is that part of the strategy?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Why they're like, okay, look, we can.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hide her and we don't do the interviews, right, Maybe
we do one here or there. We'll pick somebody that'll
be easy, hon us, and we'll just let the media
write the story. Donald Trump bad, Kamwa Harrison not as bad,
and that might get us to election day.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well. And it's difficult to overstate how strange that is.
Like in a campaign, doing media interviews is number one,
I think a responsibility you owe. But number two, it's
a vehicle typically for getting your message out. So as
you and I are sitting here right now recording this,
it is twelve twenty two in the morning, and I
am on the highway driving back from Austin to Houston.
(09:30):
I'm in the middle of a campaign, so I'm campaigning.
Just today on Thursday, I've done multiple media interviews. That's
what one does when one's running for re election per senate,
much less if you're running to be president of the
United States. And it is striking that we are weeks
into her campaign and she's done none. Now look, I
fully expect she's going to get a couple of servile
(09:51):
journalists to come up and give her some softball interview
and tell her Madam Vice President tell us now, and
this is the really important question. The American people want
to know, are you more beautiful or are you more brilliant?
How do you answer that that? I'm sure they'll do that.
They'll tee up some fawning sick of fans if we
had a functioning press co. All right, let's take for
(10:11):
example this week. This week we had a really consequential
set of primaries in Missouri, and in particular, Corey Bush,
one of the members of the Squad, Corey Bush, was
beaten in a Democrat primary. Now, Corey Bush's views are noxious,
they're radical to their extreme. Corey Bush, like Kamala Harris,
has been a leading voice for abolishing the police and
(10:33):
defunding the police. Corey Bush, like Kamala Harris, has been
viciously anti Israel, has courted the pro Hamas wing of
the Democrat Party. In fact, she is the pro Hamas
wing of the Democrat Party. Corey Bush was beaten, and
was beaten significantly in a Democrat primary, and you know,
hadn't said a word about it, Kamala Harris, not a word,
(10:54):
nothing to say about it, nothing to see here. Now,
if you actually had reporters that said, you know, I
got a job. I'm actually a reporter. I'm supposed to ask,
not the questions that the campaign wants me to asked.
I'm supposed to ask the difficult questions. Someone would have
asked Kamala Harris before the primary on Tuesday, Hey Kamala,
(11:14):
what do you think of Corey Bush? Should she win
her primary or not? Nobody asked that. She didn't answer that.
After Corey Bush is beaten, Hey, Kamala, what do you
think about one of the squad members being beaten? What
do you think about the fact that she's the second
squad member beaten this year? Jamal Bowman in New York
was beaten earlier this year, again in a Democrat primary.
What do you think about that? By the way, Corey Bush,
(11:36):
when she lost, gave this vicious anti Israel, anti Semitic
speech where she blamed Apak Now that if you're a
hardcore leftist, is the best villain imaginable?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
A pack?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, You're you're envisioning like like Mephistopheles twirling his mustache
as you say a pack. That's who she blamed. Does
anyone ask Kamala Harris, Hey, Kamala, who are you with?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Are you with?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Corey Busher or do you agree with APEX that's true.
APEC raised a bunch of money against Corey Bush. Why
because Corey Bush has been viciously anti Israel and APEK
is a group that raises money to strengthen the US
Israel relationship. But Kamala is trying to walk a tight
rope where she wants the support of the Squad. She
(12:23):
wants the support of the Squad supporters, She wants the
support of the Rabbit anti Semites in Dearborn, Michigan. She
wants the support of the Rabbit anti Semites in Minnesota
in the Democrat Party, but she also doesn't want to
alienate the other votes she needs. And right now the
media is perfectly okay with nothing to see here. Let's
(12:43):
get back to saying what a great, wonderful historic candidate
you are. And oh, oh oh, did you see the
crowds at her rallies? Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Hosanna, Hosanna, hosanna.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So let's go to Tim then, how important is he
as a vp it if they're going to hide her
because he hasn't exactly had the best rollout either.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
He is a radical, far left guy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They've tried to turn him into some sort of you know,
moderate individual that's been backfiring in an incredible way. He's
someone that has repeatedly called, for example, for universal health care.
That's really come to be an issue over the last
twenty four hours. He also says he wants to raise
taxes on Americans in a big way, saying that the
rich need to pay their fair share. And then just
(13:30):
some of his radical beliefs now that he's having to
answer questions about abortion on demand, you know, voter ID
that he didn't want to have, and allowing illegal immigrants
to be involved in politics at a local level.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He'd even mentioned before.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
These are things that are coming back to I think
haunt the campaign in a sense.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do they hide him as well?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Listen, Historically, vice presidential picks have not made a huge difference.
That's something Trump has said a number of times, and
he's right in that. Historically, presidential elections are about the
presidential nominees and the VP typically has a very marginal
impact on the edges. A VP can make a difference
in the given state sometimes, But I will say right now,
(14:15):
I think the folks on the writer are very focused
on Tim Waltz. That's fine, but the biggest value of
Tim Waltz is to illustrate how radical Kamala is, because
Kamala is the nominee, and understand, Kamala is a wild
eyed leftist. As the nonpartisan gov Track website identified, she
(14:39):
was in twenty nineteen the single most liberal United States
senator out of one hundred. She was number one hundred,
the most extreme to the left, to the left of
Bernie Sanders, to the left of Elizabeth Warren. So it
is not surprising that she picks as her VP not
Josh Shapiro, a for ce moderate Democrat who could potentially
(15:01):
deliver a swing state, but who would piss off the
Prohomas core of the Democrat Party because he's Jewish and
by the way, it really speaks volumes. Just how bad
an actually here heert. I want on this point, I
want to play a segment from CNN because I want
you to listen to CNN the commentators talking about how
(15:26):
that they're kind of glad that Kamala didn't pick Josh Shapiro.
Why because it would tick off the radicals and the
Prohomace base of the Democrat Party. And they said, well,
that'd be bad. We don't want to tick them off.
And Jake Tapper, I got to say, and and I
wish this was one of our video episodes. It's just audio.
(15:46):
I wish you could see it, but you ought to
just listen because he is so uncomfortable because the CNN
commentators are basically saying, well, she obviously couldn't pick a
jew because the leftists and the Democrat Party would get
really mad if heer nominee was Jewish. And you can
see Jake Papper going, no, no, stop stop saying this.
(16:10):
But give a listen to this exchange because it really
shows number one, how poisoned and extreme the Democrat Party
has been, as reflected by their mouthpieces on CNN. But
number two, it shows that Tim Waltz pick I think
is very revealing of who Kamala Harris is. Give a listen.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
And I think ultimately Shapiro, I think fit is important.
But you know, I also think that when you look
at the principle of do no harm, maybe they did
say in a state like Minnesota, do we want to
those one hundred thousand uncommitted voters who came out about
the Gaza war? Do we want to antagonize those voters.
(16:55):
Those are all parts of part of the questions as well.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
But I just say Tim Walls also spoke conciliatorily towards
those people. He said, look, that uncommitted vote is significant
and those people should be heard. So having that kind
of response, I think is probably more of an open
door to the parts of the party that had been
very frustrated with the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So but just to just to one point on the
on the on the God's War, Shapiro has the same
position on Israel that Governor Walls that the Senator Kelly has.
He's actually been more critical of Netta Yahu than the
other two.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But he is Jewish and also.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
The face of the crackdown on the protests, right, he
spoke very vehemently about those campus protests as being anti Semitic.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Not all of them, the ones that were anti semitic
he criticized as being anti Semitic.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
He was out front on the issue. So I'm wondering
if that's the kind of thing that again for the
activist wing of the party.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Absolutely, it was a slap in the face.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You hear that, and I have to think that this
is going to start hurting Harris and Waltz's campaign if
you just alienated Jewish voters like this, but not just that,
those that also stand with Israel. And I do have
friends that are liberal that stand with Israel and are
(18:21):
proud to stand with Israel. This is not going to
sit well with them either.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, and look, look CNN is reporting there, and again,
I wish you could see Jake Tapper. You and I
both know Jake Tapper, but if you watch the video
of this, Tapper is so painfully uncomfortable with what the
CNN commentator is saying. Because the CNN commentators like, well,
you know, there are a bunch of voters in Minnesota
(18:45):
that that voted uncommitted. Why because they were mad at
Joe Biden that he wasn't anti Israel enough. Yes, he'd
undermined Israel from day one, but but he was willing
to provide some weapons to Israel and they were mad,
and so so you know, maybe this was a wise
decision to go with Waltson not Shapiro. And it's interesting
Tapper goes, well, wait a second, on the policy positions.
(19:08):
Shapiro's stated policy is the same as Waltz's is the
same as Mark Kelly's is the difference that he's Jewish
And the commentator doesn't answer, but the answer is basically,
well yeah, no, no, no, no, they're Matt. They don't want yeah,
and he won Jewish on the ticket, Like, it's not
the policy, it's the fact that he's Jewish. And then
(19:29):
so she actually goes back said She's like, no, no, no,
She tries to dodge, and she says, no, no, no, it's
that he denounced the anti Semitic protests on campus. And
Tapper's like, well, yeah, the ones that were anti Semitic.
And the commentary is like, woll well, well you just
you don't want to make the people mad who like
(19:52):
anti Semitic protests. But like that was her argument is
because he is Jewish. She didn't admit that, but that
was obviously what she meant. And b because he dared
say viciously anti Semitic protesters are wrong, that the risk
was too high for him to be on the ticket.
(20:13):
And so where instead did Kamala go? And she went
to Tim Waltson and listen again, I think we should
not obsess about Tim Waltz. He's not gonna matter a
whole lot at the end of the day. Now, the media,
as much as they're trying to turn Kamala into Saint Kamala,
they're trying to turn Tim Walton Nanny Griffin. He is
(20:34):
a Midwestern coach, He's a dad. He's gosh, golly ge woooo.
I mean, he's just a nice old fella. He like
pets himself some dogs, and he's just gosh, Grandpa Joe
and this guy. Okay, I'm going to give some unsolicited
(20:56):
advice to the Trump campaign. Focus on the substance of
Kamala Harris's record and Tim Waltz's record. Both of them
are radical and extreme. Don't get don't get distracted. Don't
go down to digression. The media wants you to go
down to digression. These two are the most radical two
(21:20):
people ever nominated by a major party to be president
and vice president. Their records are identical. The reason Kamala
Harris picked Tim Waltz is she wanted a fellow radical.
And actually, one illustration that I that I think really
speaks volumes. You know you look at you and I've
talked about this before. Bernie Sanders, my colleague in the Senate,
(21:43):
when he got married, he made the decision to honeymoon
in the Soviet Union. Now that's bizarre, like like I
don't know who says, Okay, I'm on my honeymoon. Where
do I want to go? The Soviet Union? Comrade, that's
where I want to be. Look, Heidi and I we
went to Saint Thomas. We went to the beach. It
was really pretty. We had some bararitas Doc Daker's. We
(22:04):
walked barefoot in the sand, like like, that's what you do.
Where did you guys go in your honeymoon?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Ben?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And if you say to sob Union? We went down.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, we went down to Mexico exactly. It was like, hey,
where's a direct flight out of Houston.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It was like stopa San Wattineo for a week, and
then I surprised her with a second week. She thought
we were flying home, and I called her boss at
Saint Jude and I said, look, can I'm only going
to get two weeks off my whole life one time?
Can I please surprise her? And we went the second
week to Cabo.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You are a romantic son of a gun. I've ever
been to Zewaddejo. All I know is it's where Tim
Robbins was going to go in Shawshank Redemption, And it
sure looked pretty in the in the film, but I
haven't been there. What was it gorgeous?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You put it on your list, it's in It is
one of the most gorgeous places I've ever been in
my entire life.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, so let me ask you, do you regret instead
of going to zewat Dejo and walking into the sand,
that you didn't go to the Soviet Union and pay
homage to Marks and Lennon and the heroes of the revolution.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Like that's the yeah, you know, And yeah, it was
a It was a toss up, right, It was a
big toss up which one would which one would be
better of a surprise, go to go to Russian and
maybe never come back, or go to Mexico and hang
out on the beach.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So the reason it's relevant to talk about where Bernie
went on this honeymoon is it shows what his values are,
what he what he admires, what he cares about, who
he wants to be. Well, Tim Waltz on his honeymoon
went to communist China. Now that's a little weird, but
there's a second piece. And we talked about the fact
that he went to communist China on Wednesday, spot. But
(23:44):
the second piece that broke on Thursday that I didn't
know for Wednesday, Spot. Do you know what day Tim
Waltz chose to get married on?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
See when this when this broke, I was immediate like
this is going to be some internet like rumor, it's
going to get fact check. It's not going to be real.
I was like, there's no way, and then sure enough
it is real and you can tell the audience exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He chose to get married on the anniversary of the
Tianmen Square massacre, the Tianamen Square, where you had hundreds
of thousands, if not millions, of Chinese standing up for freedom,
standing up against oppression, standing up against the oppressive communist bastards,
and the Chinese tyrannical governments sent in tanks mowed them down,
(24:32):
and it is it was an incredible moment of heroism
on the part of the students and the young people
standing up against tyranny. And it was an incredible moment
of brutality on the part of the regime stomping them down.
And I gotta say the only word I know to
describe somebody who chooses to get married on the anniversary
(24:55):
of Tannemen Square and then Honeymoons and Communist China. The
only word I know to describe is weird, which is
really funny because, well, like the only thing anyone knows
about him is he started running around saying Donald Trump
and JD. Vans are weird, and it's like, dude, that
is weird.
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me also ask you another question, and that's gonna be
the debate. We there was a debate that was offered up.
Kamala Harris said, no, that was gonna be on Fox.
Now apparently they've agreed to another debate on one of
(27:21):
the major networks. And if she's not doing interviews and
you have to put out press statements, you know that
Vice President Harris pledges a scheduled interview before the end
of the month after speaking with her team on Thursday.
Quote it's unclear if the interview will take place in
the last three weeks of August or whether the interview
scheduled interview scheduling will take place before August ends, quote unquote,
(27:42):
But Harris, as you mentioned at the beginning of the show,
has not given one unscripted press conference since she joined
the president to race eighteen days ago. To use the
you know Waltz's favorite word, that's weird, and may continue
to avoid the press until Labor Day twenty five days
from now twenty four Now a long time. Here's Ally
(28:02):
told Politico for their publication basically, I think limiting expectations.
And now you look at this, you go, Okay, she's
going into hiding. How important is the next president of debate?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Then well look, Trump came out and challenged her to
three presidential debates, and that's a very normal thing to do.
If you look in history at modern times, there have
typically been three presidential debates and usually one vice presidential debate.
That's been the history for a long time. And so
what Trump challenged her to, he challenged her to it
(28:35):
on three different networks. That was a very reasonable challenge.
I don't think she'll accept. My prediction is we will
see one presidential debate between Trump and Kamala. I think
her team would love that to be zero, but I
think they will probably make the judgment that zero would
project so much weakness that it would be a problem.
(28:56):
I think the chances that they agree to three are
essentially zero because from their perspective, why would they Every
day they are getting tens of millions of dollars of
free press, and the press is just running a twenty
four hour infomercial for her, So why would she do
anything to take the Kamala Harris infomercial off TV? The
(29:19):
press wants her to win. I think they will feel
like we got to do one, and by the way,
and we'll talk about this as the debate approaches. Look,
that debate has has risks for both of them. It
has risks for her because when she's unscripted when she's
ad living, she can say all sorts of zany things
(29:40):
that are not terribly impressive. But it also has risks
for trumpet in particular, it has risks for Trump of
being too aggressive, too mean, and that has a potential
to backfire. Kamala is not Joe Biden, and so you know,
from the Democrat perspective, I think they would hope that
Trump would come across as a bully or or mean,
(30:03):
because I think they would they would be calculating that
doing so might well push swing voters to Kamala. And
so where I think we'll end up is one debate
September or October. I think Trump rightly will keep putting on.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
ABC News has apparently yeah, well, ABC News has now
apparently confirmed that both Trump and Harris quote have agreed
to basic terms for their debate on September the tenth.
So you're saying, you believe there's a very good chance
that may be the only debate they do.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And remember that was the previously agreed debate that that
Joe Biden had also agreed to that Trump initially was
pushing back and not wanting and saying, how about we
do Fox instead and Kamala didn't want to do that.
It's they both now said Okay, we'll do ABC on
September tenth. I'd love to see three debates. I think
it would be better for democracy. I think would be
(30:57):
it would be better for the American people, for the voters.
But I think Kamala Harris and the Democrats do not
give a flying flip about democracy, don't give a flying
flip about the voters. They every single day that she
does nothing, the media is campaigning for twenty four hours
a day, and I think their entire strategy is don't
(31:19):
get in the way of the media campaign unfolding right now.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And I look to Vegas every once a while because
it just I find it fascinating to see where they
and how they rank the race. You look at this
media propaganda that is historic on its scale for Harris
and all of the money that's flown in to boost
her and the ads that are running.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Everyone I think has seen them.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Now she is now only at even odds with Trump
in Vegas. This after they've thrown everything that they have
at Harris to try to save the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And the question is, is the Kamala honeymoon over.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If it is, if it's straight up forty ninety nine
in Vegas right now, is this now going to turn
into somewhat of an actual and real campaign.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Look, I hope.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
So.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I still believe Trump is gonna win in November, and
that we're going to see UH a very good election
where Republicans win the White House, we win the Senate,
and we win the House. That's what I think is
likely to happen. That being said, the chances of that
today are significantly less than they were three weeks ago.
Three weeks ago in Milwaukee, and you and I did
several podcasts from Milwaukee live from the convention. UH in Milwaukee,
(32:38):
the feeling was exuberant. In fact, you and I talked
about on this podcast. At the convention, I was worried,
I said at the time, I think Republicans are over confident,
that that that we feel like the race is over.
We're celebrating. You and I had conversations with people there
that that that that that were already handing out cabinet
positions and and and my view is the time for
(33:00):
celebration is after the election, not before. Now. The reason
there was such a sense of exuberance is because Joe
Biden was the opponent, and I think if Joe Biden
stayed the opponent, Trump would have won easily. And the
problem was Democrats came to that same conclusion, Oh crap,
we're going to lose if Biden's the president is the nominee.
So they yanked him out of the way and pushed
(33:21):
him aside and replaced him with Kamalin. Right now, three
weeks later, we've seen three weeks of relentless propaganda for Kamala,
and we have also seen so Trump, for much of
his presidential time and much of his campaigning time, has
been able to dominate the free media narrative, has been
(33:43):
able to drive the stories. The past three weeks, the
free media narrative has all been about Kamala. And I
think one challenge that I'm sure the Trump campaign has
focused on right now is how they drive the free
media narrative in a way that highlights how rat extreme
Kama is. And I would say, I think it's a
(34:03):
mistake for them to get into personal issues, issues that
are unrelated to Kamala's extreme record, and in particular how
it impacts people listen every election, I think is decided
to give.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Us an example of what you mean by that, give
us an example, because you said not getting into personal stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Every election, I think is decided by the same basic question,
are you better off today than you were four years ago?
I think the Trump campaign ought to be discussing every
single day how ordinary people's lives are worse, how young
people coming out of school, look, newly married, looking to
(34:47):
buy their first home, are discovering that if you try
to buy a home with a seven or eight percent
mortgage instead of a two and a half percent mortgage,
you get half the house you used to be able
to get four years ago. Talking about seniors who are
discovering every one of their bills has gone up uh
and yet their income is not keeping pace. Talking about
(35:10):
families who are scared because illegal immigrants are being released
every single day, as I said on the stage in Milwaukee,
every damn day, an American is murdered, a woman is raped,
a child is assaulted and brutalized by illegal immigrants released
by Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and I think the Trump
(35:32):
campaign should focus on how to drive the narrative every day.
Both their they're paid messaging but also as much as
possible the earned media on how people's lives are worse
now because of the failures. Kamala Harris should not be
able to run on the hypothetical of what a Harris
(35:54):
presidency would look like because you know what she and
Joe have been in office for four years. We know
exactly what it looks like, and it's a train wreck.
And the Trump campaign, I think needs to that make
that the topic of discussion as much as possible every
day between now an election day.
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do you prep if you're Donald Trump right now for
attacking a candidate that's in hiding. I mean it's different
because the last time it was, the attack was pretty clear.
The line was he's incapacitated, he can't do the job,
(38:36):
referring to Biden. You can't use that line against Harris.
So what do you do to undermine her in hiding?
Do you say, Hey, I thought she was able bodied,
I guess she's not, and try to bait her that way?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What's the strategy?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Look, I think you focus on substance. Her policies are extreme,
Her record is extreme. Her record is a failure. Her
record is hurting you. Your life is worse off. You know,
if you look at across the country, virtually no one
answers the question, yes, are you better off today than
(39:13):
you were four years ago? Unless you happen to be
a big tech billionaire or a Mexican drug lord. And
by the way, if you're a Mexican drug lord, you
ought to vote for Kabala and Waltz. They're clearly the
candidate for you. If you're a big tech billionaire, they're
your candidate too. But but, but if you're a steel worker,
if if you're a suburban mom, if you're a young person,
(39:36):
if you're somebody, if you're a senior, if you're somebody
who loves America, if you're somebody who wants your kids safe,
if you're someone who wants your grandkids safe, if you're
someone who wants to see peace and prosperity in the
world and not h not chaos, then you ought that.
Then the choice is a lot clearer. And and that's
(39:56):
what I think the Trump campaign needs to be looking
every day to make that real and personal and why
it matters to you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, great point. Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
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