October 11, 2023 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
with you, and we have a lot to talk about
when it comes to Israel. There are so many people
asking questions about Biden's response, Also colleges in America that
are backing Hamas and Black Lives managers standing with them
as well. Plus how many illegal immigrants have come across
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the border that are on the Terrace watch list. We're
looking at the border through a different perspective now with
what just happened in Israel. Senator, let's first start with
the president's response. It was shocking to see him not
talk about Iran, not talk about the money going to Iran,
and not warning the terrorists to not lay a finger
on the Americans they're holding hostage. Your thoughts on what
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he said to the world today, really what he was
saying to the Territs.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, let me start by just observing where we are.
We are five days into the most serious attack on
Israel in over fifty years. We are seeing atrocities unfold
every single day. Saturday was the single biggest day of
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mass murders of Jews since the Holocaust. We've had over
nine hundred Israelis murdered. We've had thousands of Israelis injured,
We've had hundreds potentially more Israelis kidnapped and taken hostage.
And we are seeing atrocities, war crimes carried out each
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and every day, you know. Monday night, I went to
a synagogue in Houston and attended a solidarity service as
Jews throughout the Houston community came together. We had about
two thousand people in Houston come together, including people of
other faith, standing with Israel. On Tuesday night, I went
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to a solidarity service at a synagogue in Dallas. Same thing,
couple of thousand people from Dallas coming together. I've got
to say, Number one, the pain and agony in the
Jewish community in particular is enormous. The number of people
I saw just weeping. The number of American Jews who
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have family members who live in Israel, who have family
members or friends who were there who have been scared
for what it meant. At both of the services in
Houston and Dallas on Monday and Tuesday, they had Israelis
stand up and speak and tell their stories. And I
got to say their stories were powerful, talking about friends
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of theirs, talking about the terror at the Dallas Synagogue.
The Israeli talked about that she and her husband and
their three kids had lived at a kibbutz just a
couple of miles from the Gaza Strip, and she described
with tears running down her face, she was having a
very hard time tell this story. So she's been in
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the United States for about three months, but they had
lived in the kibbutz before that. She's spending a year
fellowship here in the United States. She described how their
friends began texting them and on WhatsApp apps in utter terror.
She was a schoolteacher in Israel, and she described how
her students were texting her as the terrorists were arriving,
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and she was getting text after text after text saying
they're here. They're knocking on the doors, they're breaking the windows,
they're shooting down the doors. She was listening to to
the terrorists attacking home by home by home. It's worth
understanding this is something that has not happened since the
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Nazis death squads going house by house by house and
murdering every resident there simply because they're Jews. It is horrific,
and this is Israeli. She discribed rived Tuesday night, her
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sixth grade students were texting her in terror and then
in the midst of the text they'd go silent. How
she had students of hers who were killed. She described
a good friend of hers who was a teacher who
had several children, who was fleeing, fleeing from the terrorists
that were there to murder them. And she described how
her friend made a choice, how her son was on
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one motorcycle and she and her two daughters were another motorcycle,
and she pulled off and saved her two daughters and
watched her son captured and kidnapped by the Hamas terrorists.
You remember the movie Sophie's Choice, where a mom is
forced into the unspeakable, the unimaginable decision of choosing between
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your children, And I listened to this Israeli woman in
tears describe her friend who saved two of her children,
but is filled with fear and agony that the child
she was not able to save, he's been kidnapped. He's
presumably been taken back to Gaza. She doesn't know what
he's experiencing, presumably horrible treatment. This is happening, This is horrific,
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and it's happening. We're seeing images. We're seeing images of
baby's shot, We're seeing images of babies beheaded, We're seeing images.
There was an outdoor concert. You had hundreds of Israelis there,
and they arrived and just began firing machine guns, gunning
them down in massive numbers, chasing them down and killing them.
They began grabbing the women and the little girls and
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raping them, violently raping them. The images that they are horrific.
This is evil. There's no ambiguity about it. There's no
justification about it. There's no On the one hand, on
the other hand, anyone who rapes and murders children is evil.
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These are barbaras. Now all of that is before I
get to your question, Ben, What did I think about
what Biden said today? Well, he finally got around to
talking five days into this, and he finally said today
something that should have been said on Saturday, which is
America stands with Israel, period, full stop. I'm glad he
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finally said that. Why did it take five days? Why
did it take five days to say that? Why in
the hours after this attack began, did the Biden State
Department tweet out urging Israel do not engage in a
military response. Stand down violence solves nothing. As you know,
I blasted that tweet and three in the morning, at
three in the morning, within minutes of when they sent it,
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and within the hour, the State Department pulled it down.
But subsequently Tony Blinken sent another tweet, another tweet urging
Israel not to engage in military retaliation for what they're
calling Israel's nine eleves for the greatest murder of Israeli citizens,
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and our State Department is saying do nothing. Again. I
blasted that Biden State Department tweet, and again they deleted
it very shortly thereafter. So Biden five days later says
America stands with Israel. That's good. They finally got that
sentence correct. But I got to say, is administration didn't
stand with Israel on Saturday. They didn't stand with Israel
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on Sunday, or on Monday or finally on Tuesday. They
get the statement out. But you know what they haven't done.
They haven't addressed Iran in the slightest Iran is who
planned this, Irans who organized this, Irans who funded this.
They haven't addressed their own culpability for sending the money
that funded this. They haven't said they're going to stop
sending the money to Iran. Instead, they've given talking points.
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America stands with Israel without any substance behind it, And meanwhile,
we have democrat after democrat in the House attacking and
undermining Israel. It is horrific. And I got to tell you,
the Jewish community in America is grieving. The Jewish community
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across the globe is grieving, but not just the Jewish community.
Christians are grieving. Anyone with any sense of humanity. When
you have monsters murdering babies, that's what we're seeing. And
even worse than that, we're seeing monsters murdering babies, and
we're seeing leftist ideologues rationalizing and justifying it.
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of it, and it's also and I want to go
back to a couple more questions. I have for you
on Biden, the fact that he didn't come out and
talk about sanctions and refused to answer the question about
the six billion. How is the six billion still on
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the table for Ran if we clearly know and his
own spokespeople, the State Department others afterwards said yes, we
know that Iran was involved in at least the planning.
There apparently was a meeting on Tuesday before this attack
in Beirut. We know that Hamas is supported financially by Iran.
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And the President walked out of the room and would
not answer that statement. Not only that, when the White
House Press Corps pressed the White House on this issue
of why will you not just say the money's not
going there, they wouldn't give a direct answer, and you
got to ask the question at this point, whose side
are you on, mister President.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, look, unfortunately for two and a half year the
White House has answered that question. They're on the side
of Palestinian terrorists and they're on the side of Iran. Now, Ben,
let me say right now, someone listening to that may
say that's that's extreme, that's not where they are. Let
me back it up with facts. Because people are asking
about the six billion I'm glad they're asking about the
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six billion. They should, but there are four separate buckets
of cash that anyone reasonable and rational should ask about,
because all four of them have gone to fund these atrocities.
Number one is the six billion dollars. The Biden administration
spent six billion dollars as ransom to get five Americans
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out of Iranian captivity. Now, when that happened, I pointed
out that they set the ransom at one point two
billion dollars per American. And what I said, and what
many others said, is the result of this will be
many more Americans taken hostage, and in particular, Iran will
take many more American hostage. Now, what I didn't realize
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is that it would be just a few weeks until
that happened. One of the things the White House acknowledged
on Tuesday, at least fourteen American citizens were killed by
hamas in this attack, and potentially upwards of twenty Americans
were taken hostage. So the Biden administration demonstrates to Iran, hey,
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if you take Americans hostage, we'll pay you billions in ransom.
They released five, and they'd now taken upwards of twenty twenty.
At the price the Biden administration sent is twenty four
billion dollars. I am very sorry that prediction proved accurate,
but it proved accurate within weeks, and there were many
others saying the same thing. That's bucket number one, the
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six billion dollars. That's the only thing the media is
talking about even a little bit. But there are three
other buckets that are highly relevant. The second bucket is
another ten billion dollars. That is ten billion dollars of
money that was in Iraq that the Biden d administration
just a few weeks earlier than the six billion released
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ten billion to Iran. I believe the ransom was actually
sixteen billion rather than six because you have the six
plus the ten that they had released a few weeks earlier.
That takes them to sixteen billion. But that's not even
the majority of the money Biden has sent to Iran. Look,
when Biden became president, he inherited a situation where the
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Middle East was at peace. In fact, peace was breaking
out between Israel and Israel's Arab neighbors. The Abraham Accords
had just been signed, and Iran was on its knees.
Its economy was crippled. And the reason its economy was
crippled is because the majority of their revenue comes from
oil sales, and the Trump administration, at my emphatic urging,
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had enforced strict sanctions against Iranian oil sales that had
crippled their oil sales. Well, Joe Biden came in and
immediately began not in force seeing those sanctions on oil.
As a consequence, for two and a half years, Iran
has been selling oil like crazy, much of it they're
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selling to China. So it's aiding two of our enemies.
It's aiding Iran and China. They have earned in excess
of forty billion dollars from selling oil because Joe Biden
will not enforce the sanctions against Iran. Right now, today
Iran is selling two million barrels a day of oil.
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And you know what Joe Biden didn't say today. He
didn't say We're finally going to enforce oil sanctions. He
didn't say that, he didn't pose any new sanctions, He
didn't force any new sanctions. So presumably tomorrow Iran will
sell two million barrels of oil. Now, I gotta say,
in the debate over the money people are saying money
is fungible. Money is fungible. That's absolutely true. That's part
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of the argument. That's part of the argument about the
six billion dollars. And the Marionettes who are defending the
White House, they say, well, the six billion dollars could
only be spent on humanitarian purposes. And it's absolutely true
that money's fungible. So if you fill six billion in
one pot, they can spend other money on terrorism in
attacking Israel. But that doesn't address the ten billion dollars,
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and it certainly doesn't address the forty billion dollars in
oil revenues, which can be spent on any damn thing
they want. And there's actually been There's a fourth bucket
of money that almost no one in the press is addressing,
which is the hundreds of millions of dollars that the
Biden administration has sent to Gaza and when they send
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it to Gaza. At the time, I led a coalition
of seventeen senators urging the Biden administration, do not send
this to Gaza. If you send it to Gaza, it
will go to ham and Hamas will use it for terrorism.
Seventeen senators altogether joined me in sending that letter. Now,
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on the other side, in the House, some one hundred
and fifty House members, all Democrats, wrote a letter urging
one hundred and forty five, actually, House Democrats sent a
letter urging that the money be released to Hamas that included,
among others, Colin All read from Texas. One hundred and
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forty five Democrats sent that letter urging the Biden administration
to send hundreds of millions to Gaza. Now what happened.
The Biden administration assessed, and here is the amazing thing,
which again the media is not covering. The Biden administration
knew for a fact that the money they were sending
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to Gaza would fund terrorism. Let me read you the
quote from the internal Biden administration document. Quote, due to
its all strength and level of control over Gaza, we
assess there is a high risk HAMAS could potentially derive indirect,
unintentional benefits from US assistance to Gaza. In other words,
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this money, there's a high risk it'll be used by
Hamas for terrorism. And you know what they did. They
didn't say, oh, we don't want to fund terrorism, we
don't want to fund death squads murdering Israelis. Instead they
said no, actually we do. So they waived the anti
terrorism restrictions under US law and they sent the money anyway.
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And in the press conference on Tuesday, Joe Biden did
not address one syllable of one word of anything I
just said. He didn't address any of the four pots
of money that, in a very very real sense, the
death squads and the worst attack on Israel in fifty
years was funded by money the Biden administration chose to
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send to Iran and chose to send to Hamas, which
is controlled and funded by Iran.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
By the way, what you just mentioned is exactly why
this podcast we do. It is so that people can
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You guys did an amazing job or two days ago
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social media so that other people hear about this. And
I want to go back to the money you just
mentioned for a second. Scott Kirby, who basically I guess
is the de facto of President United States of America
because he's the only one that seems to be talking
from the White House about any of these issues. The
President won't take questions. We don't see him. They call
it at noon every day. He claimed on Fox News
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that the quote Iran sanctions are being enforced. He got
called out for lying by Brett Hume. I want to
play this back and forth because it talks about the
money and the difference in the exports and how much
money Iran is making right now because America is not
enforcing these sanctions.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Listen, I don't have any policy decisions with respect to
that to speak to you today, Brett. I think it's
important for people to remember that not a single dnar
of that fun of those funds has gone into Iran,
not one, not any nothing's been allocated out of that fund.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, and we're gonna watch it block. Money's fungible. You
get six billion dollars over here for humanitarian and food,
so then you can move money someplace else, and then
you have the not enforcing sanctions that allows Iran to
cash in on it's oil around the world.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Brett, with all due respect, I just got to push
back on you there. It's not that we're not enforcing sanctions.
We have been enforcing them. As a matter of fact,
we've added sanctions. We've sanctioned four hundred entities in Iran
just in the beginning of this administration, let alone the
sanctions that came before us. And as for the fungibility, again,
that money was never going to be tapped by the
Iranian regime. They were never going to see it themselves.
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It was always going to go to vendors that we
approved to go to buy humanitarian assistance and medical and
food to get to the directly to the Iranian people.
The regime was never going to see that or feel that,
and they haven't asked for it. And the other thing
I'll say right.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Just before we get off this topic, No, John, I
wanted to just push back on one thing. You said
that the sanctions are being enforced the Iranian exports of
oil to China twenty twenty six point six billion, twenty
twenty one, twenty three point one billion, twenty twenty two
to thirty billion dollars. So how is that enforcing the
sanctions on Iran?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean, Centat, I'll just stop there and let you
respond to that. They're lying and he just got called
out for lying. You go from six point six billion
in twenty twenty to now you're talking, you know, thirty
billion in twenty twenty three. How is that enforcing these sanctions?
The White House is clearly looking the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Well, they are, and they're doing it because the number
one foreign policy objective of the Biden administer station remains,
I assume to this day, re entering the disastrous Obama
Iran nuclear deal. It's their number one priority. It's why
they're undermining the war in Ukraine. It's why they are
making every other foreign policy issues subservient to flooding cash
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into Iran. And listen, the numbers are clear. Iran right
now today is selling two million barrels of oil a day.
When Biden came into office, they were selling a tiny
fraction of that because the oil sanctions had crippled their economy.
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And this was not accidental. It's a conscious decision. And
you know John Kirby. John Kirby is a retired rear
admiral from the Navy. He's somewhat who devoted his life
to the military, and he's turned into bagdad Bob. He's
just willing to go out and lie for the Biden administration.
It when he is saying things like we are enforcing sank,
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he sounds like Kareine Jean Pierre, And I got to
say the willingness that I actually find it sad to
see someone, a career military man, willing to sell his
integrity down the river by just lying on behalf of an administration.
That's what he's doing.
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One other question about the hostages. I think there's still
disbelief right now at the lack of intensity from this
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administration on words having meaning and saying to these hostages takers,
we will come after you if you do not release
the American hostage. Why is it that this administration weve
uses to say things like that to defend American.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Lives because they don't believe it, because this president is
so weak that if you take American hostages, he won't
come after you. Look, Joe Biden has already become Jimmy
Carter and even worse, I got to say, I was
a kid when Jimmy Carter was president. I remember the
hostage crisis in nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty where
American hostages were held in Iran, same people doing it
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for four hundred and forty four days. It brought down
the Jimmy Carter presidency. I remember, for example, that the
TV show Nightline. I don't know if you know this bend,
but it was started during the Iran hostage crisis because
every night ABC, this is back when we had functioning journalism,
would cover the hostage crisis, and Ted Copple started Nightline
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to cover it every single night, the ongoing hostage crisis.
Where's CNN on the American hostage crisis? Where's ABC that
they could relaunch Nightline? Where's CBS, NBC? We have twenty
American hostages. And do the American president say if you
hurd a hostage, we will there will be massive repercussions. Nope, nope. Instead,
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his State Department said stand down, no military repercussions whatsoever. Apparently,
take a hostage and you know, we'll get out our
checkbook and write billions of dollars this weakness is endangering
America and it's endangering our allies.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I want to ask you quickly about the media, because
something you just said reminded me of the media. Are
you shocked by the amount of anti Semitism we are
witnessing on TV right now from people that many respect journalists.
I want to give you an example. Andrea Mitchell today
said this about Hamas.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Historically, the post in the authority has gotten weaker and
weaker as Jimas has gained strength and popularity because the
posting the authority is weakened by the nation's government settlement
and by showing that it has not much much authority.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean, she keeps giving excuses for why Hamas is
gaining strength and says, well, it's because of this, or
it's because of that, And she went on to continue
to say even after that that this is because of
the problem that Israel created. And she's saying this on
TV while she's also putting out the propaganda from the
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Palacindian Health Ministry that eight hundred and thirty innocent people
killed in Gaza another four thousand, two hundred fifty injured,
many of them children, And she's selling this to the
American people that there's well, there's a both sides quote
argument here. Israelis are not beheading infant children, They're not
dragging women through the streets and raping them. They're not
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throwing dead bodies in the back of the trucks like
we saw during the Holocaust. That is only the terrorists
on the side of Hamas. Period.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The corporate media hates Israel, and you have to understand
a very important part of the strategy of Hamas they
engage in this barbarism, They engage in these attacks and
they know the response from Israel is going to be
a military strike. I believe Benjamin Etyah, who is going
to take out Hamas. I think he is going to
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take out their military leadership, take out their weapons, take
out their rockets, take out their soldiers, take out their terrorists.
He's going to eliminate Hamas. That is going to be
a bloody war. It is going to last a minimum
of weeks, it may last months. Hamas's strategy, as Israel
engages in that effort to take out Hamas, is going
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to be to count on the corporate media to be
their pr spokespeople. So we're already hearing just a few
days into this conflict, the Palestinian body counts. What the
corporate media doesn't tell you is the reason Palestinians are
dying is because Hamas wants them to die. Because Hamas
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uses Palestinians as human shields. Israel is sending text, is
sending warnings asking civilians get out of the way, get
out of harm's way. We're going to strike this location here.
It's a Hamas stronghold, it's a headquarters, it's where they
have rockets. Get out of the way. Hamas is telling
the civilians stay there. Why, because we want you dead.
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You have to understand Hamas. They want Palestinians dead because
a dead Palestinian, even better, a bit dead Palestinian mother
or child, is invaluable to Hamas as a propaganda tool
because they know that the tweeting numbskulls in the media
will use that to attack Israel and will say they
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are barbarians. That is what this is all about. And
so you need to get ready. The New York Times,
the New York Times will wage a pr war against Israel.
It will portray the Palestinians as oppressed people, and these
poor Hamas terrorists are Smiths understood. Let me tell you,
when you are beheading babies, you're not misunderstood. You're a monster,
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and you deserve to be treated as such.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
There was also something else that shocked me, and it
happened today on TV. John Kirby was asked a question,
and this terrifies me about our readiness as a nation militarily.
He was asked about the possibility of a special operation
to rescue Americans from Israel, and he answered in a
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way that I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Listen, you ruling out some kind of special operation to
rescue American citizens.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I'm not ruling any I'm not ruling anything in or out.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
We're not prepared to do that at this time. We
just don't have enough information to get into policy possibilities
and options. We obviously take the safety and security of
Americans overseas very seriously. President Biden has made that clear,
and bringing home now almost forty Americans that were wrongfully detained,
we'll certainly act with that same sense of alacrity and
urgency here and seriousness. But again, we just don't have
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We just don't have the numbers that confirm. We don't
have the information to be able to talk with any
great specificity about what the options might be.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
He just said there to the world and to the
terrorists we're in un quoting exactly, we're not prepared to
do that at this time.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The Biden administration is incapable of projecting strength. It's incapable
of standing up to our enemies. Biden's approach from day
one is to every enemy of America, whether it is Iran,
whether it is North Korea, whether it is Venezuela, whether
it is China, whether it is Russia, projecting weakness and
projecting appeasement. So he cannot say, if you do not
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release Americans, you will face overwhelming consequences to the military
leaders of AMAS. Release the Americans, or you will die.
That's actually what a commander in chief who's defending Americans
would say. By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu, who doesn't have
time for the nonsense that the Biden White House engages in,
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that's exactly what he's saying. He is saying they are
going to eradicate Hamas, that they cannot live with this
terror threat, with these monsters targeting women and children and civilians.
They're not engaged in war, they're not attacking military targets.
Hamas is not. They are engaged in terrorism targeting babies.
Babies are not military targets. And unfortunately the Biden administration,
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their weakness causes our enemies to be stronger, to be
more aggressive, because they say this president is a pushover,
and the more hostages we take, the more billions of
dollars they'll give us, and then we'll use those billions
of dollars to take even more hostages and to kill
even more Jews. That's what's going on here, and the
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Biden administration bears direct culpability, which is why after Joe
Biden gave a statement and he ran out of the
room and didn't answer a single press question because they
cannot defend their disgraceful policy.
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of the US perspective for a minute as well. Colleges
Harvard University of Pennsylvania, Black Lives Matter, standing with these terrorists.
You have federally elected leaders around the country that are
standing with these terrorists. You have a Colorado State Representative,
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Tim Hernandez who said this today.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
I think it's despicable what they're protesting for, protesting relations
and the fact that you can't condemn women and children
and elderly people being all over in the streets.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
What about it?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Do you condemn it? I already said, why can't you
say yes?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Because I already gave you my answer if you didn't.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Give an answer, and every I think anybody who watches
would understand.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
This is a man who's at a protest against Israel,
who's been elected to the state legislature. You put that,
and you combine that with the squad Senator. I will
give a little credit the White House at least today
understood that they need to stand up against Omar and
to leave and others.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
The White House Press Secretary did say that what they
had said was repugnant and disgraceful their statements on Israel.
But you combine these young leaders with what we're now
witnessing on college campuses, is at Harvard at University of Penn.
It scares me for this country. There was a conversation
even about this on CNBC, even CNBC who deals with
(35:15):
financial issues, like what the hell is going on on
college campuses? And this is what they said.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Let me ask you a question. Let's say you're the
president of Harvard University. If you've looked at what's happening
to Harvard, there are students who are mind boggling, right,
but students who are gathering to support the Palestinians, to
support Hamas, frankly, very very specifically to support Hamas and
what's happening. What is the role of the president of
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a university or frankly the president of a company when
they have either students or employees or others who want
to view and express that position, which I find disgraceful,
But I wonder.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Well, I think what the you're supposed to look? The
first thing that I would do if I was a
president Harvard University, I would say, we are clearly not
educating students for students to think that. Again, you know,
murder at scale is somehow legitimate, that occupation causes terror.
I mean, there are no Israelis in Gaza. For goodness sakes,
(36:20):
it's a silly turn of phrase. But to your question,
what would I do well? Number one, I would say
we need to revisit our entire core education because they're
clearly not teaching morals or values. That's number one. And
then number two, the president of Harvard, like the president
of U Penn, like the president's institutions, needs to stand
up and speak out and say this is disgraceful and
wrong students are.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
But they're not doing that, Senator, They're not saying it's wrong.
They're waiting days to even respond. And it's only after
famous alumni and donors finally came down them to the
point where like you have to give a statement, and
they put out a basic statement on paper.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well, let me say the voice you were just hearing
there was Jonathan Greenblatt. He's the head of the Anti
Day Information League, and I'm glad he's speaking out. He
actually was speaking clearly and effectively there. The ADL has
a long history of calling out anti Semitism, in recent
years it has been far too willing to basically act
as a defender for the Democrat Party and as a partisan,
(37:15):
And so I'm glad they're standing up and speaking with clarity.
Here it's important. But look what happened at Harvard. You
have thirty five student groups that put out a statement.
I want you to understand what they said. I'm going
to read you from the joint statement by Harvard Palestine
Solidarity Groups on the situation in Palestine. No, it's the
situation of Palestine, not Israel. They don't even acknowledge Israel exists. We,
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the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible
for all unfolding violence. That's the opening sentence. It is
Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists are murdering children. It is
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Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists are raping women and little
girls in the streets and parading them through the street.
It is Israel's fault that they are kidnapping toddlers and
holding them hostage. It is Israel's fault that they are
using those toddlers as human shields. They're using women and
men as human shields. It's Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists
are murdering civilians indiscriminately, walking house by house by house,
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and if you're a Jew, they murder. You what a ridiculous,
outrageous situation. And look that statement they put out. Initially,
for the first couple of days, Harvard said nothing. It
was the only statement from the Harvard campus that anyone
seemed to be aware of. Then Harvard put out an
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initial statement that was the most milk toasted, lukewarm statement
of well, we want to be a safe space for
people to have all sorts of us, you know, the
pro genocide mass murder view and the anti genocide mass
murder view. No, I'm sorry that it's not a topic
of reasonable debate. Beheading babies is always, always, always wrong, period,
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full stop. Finally, on Tuesday, the president of Harvard was
guilted into condemning we stand against Hamas's beheading babies. It
took five days of getting pounded. I got to say, listen,
I'm an alumnus of Harvard Law School. It is embarrassing
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that our universities. The problem is they've become petri dishes.
They become incubators for radical left wing views and other
than a Hamas headquarters, there are a few places with
more vicious anti semitism and hatred of Israel than America's
elite universities today. You talk to Hillel's students, you talk
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to Jewish students on campuses. They're afraid. They're afraid of violence.
They're afraid to wear a yamaka. They're afraid to be
public identified as Jewish because they risk violence. They wish,
they risk swastika's being spray painted on their student center,
they risk attacks from the radical left. And the radical
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left more and more embraces, cherishes and nurtures anti Semitism,
and schools like Harvard sadly are the breeding grounds for
this hatred and they can't figure it out enough to stay.
Genocide is bad. That should not be a controversial proposition.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, and even members in Congress Rashid to leave was
was asked directly to her face what she thought about
women being raped and babies getting their heads cut off.
She wouldn't answer the question. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
And burn children alive to deep support Israel's rights, to
defend themselves in into reality. You can't comment and hamas
terras chopping off baby's heads, Thomas, woman, do you have
a comment and the MOA's terrors talking alms? You have
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a mother who say about ammas terror no baby heads.
Do you condone what Hamas has done chopping off baby's heads,
burning children? And why Ramy went through the street? Do
you have no comment about children's heads being chopped off?
(41:44):
Commssman Whimy, how the hellis did you climb outside your
office if you do not even know what the mos
terrors is about? To his root?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Do is?
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Ramy?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Why does not matter to you? I mean senator that
was whoever that reporter was. God bless her for continuing
to ask a basic question. Children will burned alive, baby's
heads are cut off.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And I gotta say, if you haven't seen the video
of that clip, you got to google it and watch it,
because watching the video is even more disturbing. So Congresswoman
to leave is walking down the hallways in Congress, so
the steps you hear the whole time, or she's walking,
she's walking, she's walking in this reporter just asked her,
do you not have a comment on chopping babies heads off?
(42:31):
How hard is it for a congresswoman to say we
should not chop the heads off babies, we should not
burn children alive, we should not rape women in the streets.
That is not in a normal, sane world a controversial proposition,
and yet her politics are so radical she cannot bring
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herself to say that she has in front of her
office she has a Palestinian flag. It's interesting she has
a Palestinian flag and she has a transgender flag, which
is ironic because Hamas would murder anyone who's gay or transgender.
So like, the two flags are utterly in conflict. But
in today's modern left that that nobody bothers with intellectual coherence.
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They embrace their ideology and don't worry about it. But
but I gotta say, it is stunning, Like she walks
a long, long way and the end of that video
she gets on an elevator and the door closes, and
and and and you know, she asked, do Israeli lives matter?
And by the way, Congresswoman Talib conspicuously avoids using the
word Israel. She refers to Palestine. Look, today's radical left
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in the Democrat Party does not acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
And I gotta say, it's not just Congresswoman to leave.
It's it's it's it's Corey Bush. It's AOC. It is
the hard left of the Democrat Party. And by the way,
it's the Biden State Department whose response initially to this
(43:59):
was is real, stand down, do not engage in any
military action following the worst attack on Israel in fifty years,
following Israel's nine to eleven, do nothing. That is sadly
the view of today's radical left. And for the Democrats
who don't agree with it, I hope that they find
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the courage to call out the members of their own
party that are saying things that are disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Black Lives Matter. They have also come out in support
of these terrorists, standing with Hamas, standing with what they
have done, the same Black Lives Matter that received billions
upon billions of dollars in free advertising from virtually every
major league sport in this country. They were given end
zones and helmets and decals on helmets, they were given
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the corners of TV time on different parts of fields
to give them free press. And now they're coming out
supporting and I bring that up to go to some else.
There was a muslimman speaking to a large crowd today
in Times Square of those that were supporting Hamas and
the Palestinians, and this musliman speing in New York City
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said this is the correct religion. We will not stop
until it enters every home. Now, that is a concern
that many people are worried about with terrorists coming across
the border. We have new numbers that have come out
that deal with special interest aliens, the apprehensions specifically from
people coming from the Middle East. We also have found
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out center that we've had more people that have been
caught coming across the southern border illegally that are on
the Terrists watch list this year than the last five
years combined. When you witness what happened in Israel, and
you remember nine to eleven, and you look at this
open border, and you look at these special interest aliens,
(45:53):
and you look at the number of people on the
terrast squatch lists that have been caught five times more
than are more this year than the last five years combined.
There is a real concern now that something like what
happened there could happen in America.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well, listen, that's exactly right. And if you look at
the statistics from Customs and Border Patrol, here are the
people who've been apprehended crossing into the United States illegally
over the last two years. And this is just focusing
on the special interest countries, which are the countries where
there is a high predominance of terrorism from Syria five
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hundred and thirty eight, from Yemen, one hundred and thirty
nine from Iran, six hundred and fifty nine from Iraq,
one hundred and twenty three from Afghanistan, six thousand, three
hundred and eighty six from Lebanon, one hundred and sixty
four from Egypt, three thousand, one hundred and fifty three
from Pakistan, one thousand, six hundred and thirteen from Mauritania,
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fifteen thousand, five hundred and ninety four, from Uzbekistan thirteen thousand,
six hundred and twenty four and from Turkey thirty thousand,
eight one hundred and thirty And that is from October
of twenty twenty one to October of twenty twenty three.
Now those are the numbers that have been caught. That
doesn't count the million plus godaways, the people who weren't caught.
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And I got to say, as we look to next steps,
there is a real risk of escalation in Israel. There's
a real risk of additional terrorist attacks. There's a real
risk of Hesbela in the North Hamas is primarily in
the south in the Gaza Strip. Hesbela is north of Israel.
Hesbela has not yet actively engaged in this war. They
may well begin raining rockets down on Israel, which would
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give Israel a two front war. There's a real risk
of additional acts of terror, But there is an enormous
risk of acts of terror in the United States. And
when Joe Biden and the Democrats and every congressional Democrat
is complicit in this, when they implemented their open border policies,
when they began letting terrorists into those countries into this
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country in massive numbers, it is only a matter of
time before we have another terrorist attack. And I've got
to say, in the midst of this war in Israel,
the chances of that are rising dramatically. And look, I
pray to God it doesn't happen. I pray to God.
It is not of the order of magnitude of September eleventh.
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But the Biden administration, if they have open borders, if
you were a terrorist and you wanted to murder Americans,
the Biden administration has made it blazingly obvious what you
should do. You should go to Mexico and cross illegally
over the border because they'll let you, they won't catch you.
You'll get to stay, and then you can wage war
and commit acts of terrorism. And I think America is
(48:41):
much much less safe because of the intersection between Joe
Biden's weakness number one, Joe Biden's policy of funding enemies
of America like Iran and like Amas number two, and
Joe Biden's open borders with all of the other Democrats
their open which are allowing hundreds, if not thousands of
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terrorists and other criminals to flood into this country. The
chances of a serious terrorist attack, I think have never
been higher since September eleventh than they are right now today.
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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
with you, and we have a lot to talk about
when it comes to Israel. There are so many people
asking questions about Biden's response, Also colleges in America that
are backing Hamas and Black Lives managers standing with them
as well. Plus how many illegal immigrants have come across
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the border that are on the Terrace watch list. We're
looking at the border through a different perspective now with
what just happened in Israel. Senator, let's first start with
the president's response. It was shocking to see him not
talk about Iran, not talk about the money going to Iran,
and not warning the terrorists to not lay a finger
on the Americans they're holding hostage. Your thoughts on what
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he said to the world today, really what he was
saying to the Territs.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, let me start by just observing where we are.
We are five days into the most serious attack on
Israel in over fifty years. We are seeing atrocities unfold
every single day. Saturday was the single biggest day of
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mass murders of Jews since the Holocaust. We've had over
nine hundred Israelis murdered. We've had thousands of Israelis injured,
We've had hundreds potentially more Israelis kidnapped and taken hostage.
And we are seeing atrocities, war crimes carried out each
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and every day, you know. Monday night, I went to
a synagogue in Houston and attended a solidarity service as
Jews throughout the Houston community came together. We had about
two thousand people in Houston come together, including people of
other faith, standing with Israel. On Tuesday night, I went
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to a solidarity service at a synagogue in Dallas. Same thing,
couple of thousand people from Dallas coming together. I've got
to say, Number one, the pain and agony in the
Jewish community in particular is enormous. The number of people
I saw just weeping. The number of American Jews who
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have family members who live in Israel, who have family
members or friends who were there who have been scared
for what it meant. At both of the services in
Houston and Dallas on Monday and Tuesday, they had Israelis
stand up and speak and tell their stories. And I
got to say their stories were powerful, talking about friends
(02:34):
of theirs, talking about the terror at the Dallas Synagogue.
The Israeli talked about that she and her husband and
their three kids had lived at a kibbutz just a
couple of miles from the Gaza Strip, and she described
with tears running down her face, she was having a
very hard time tell this story. So she's been in
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the United States for about three months, but they had
lived in the kibbutz before that. She's spending a year
fellowship here in the United States. She described how their
friends began texting them and on WhatsApp apps in utter terror.
She was a schoolteacher in Israel, and she described how
her students were texting her as the terrorists were arriving,
(03:18):
and she was getting text after text after text saying
they're here. They're knocking on the doors, they're breaking the windows,
they're shooting down the doors. She was listening to to
the terrorists attacking home by home by home. It's worth
understanding this is something that has not happened since the
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Nazis death squads going house by house by house and
murdering every resident there simply because they're Jews. It is horrific,
and this is Israeli. She discribed rived Tuesday night, her
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sixth grade students were texting her in terror and then
in the midst of the text they'd go silent. How
she had students of hers who were killed. She described
a good friend of hers who was a teacher who
had several children, who was fleeing, fleeing from the terrorists
that were there to murder them. And she described how
her friend made a choice, how her son was on
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one motorcycle and she and her two daughters were another motorcycle,
and she pulled off and saved her two daughters and
watched her son captured and kidnapped by the Hamas terrorists.
You remember the movie Sophie's Choice, where a mom is
forced into the unspeakable, the unimaginable decision of choosing between
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your children, And I listened to this Israeli woman in
tears describe her friend who saved two of her children,
but is filled with fear and agony that the child
she was not able to save, he's been kidnapped. He's
presumably been taken back to Gaza. She doesn't know what
he's experiencing, presumably horrible treatment. This is happening, This is horrific,
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and it's happening. We're seeing images. We're seeing images of
baby's shot, We're seeing images of babies beheaded, We're seeing images.
There was an outdoor concert. You had hundreds of Israelis there,
and they arrived and just began firing machine guns, gunning
them down in massive numbers, chasing them down and killing them.
They began grabbing the women and the little girls and
(05:38):
raping them, violently raping them. The images that they are horrific.
This is evil. There's no ambiguity about it. There's no
justification about it. There's no On the one hand, on
the other hand, anyone who rapes and murders children is evil.
(05:58):
These are barbaras. Now all of that is before I
get to your question, Ben, What did I think about
what Biden said today? Well, he finally got around to
talking five days into this, and he finally said today
something that should have been said on Saturday, which is
America stands with Israel, period, full stop. I'm glad he
(06:20):
finally said that. Why did it take five days? Why
did it take five days to say that? Why in
the hours after this attack began, did the Biden State
Department tweet out urging Israel do not engage in a
military response. Stand down violence solves nothing. As you know,
I blasted that tweet and three in the morning, at
three in the morning, within minutes of when they sent it,
(06:43):
and within the hour, the State Department pulled it down.
But subsequently Tony Blinken sent another tweet, another tweet urging
Israel not to engage in military retaliation for what they're
calling Israel's nine eleves for the greatest murder of Israeli citizens,
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and our State Department is saying do nothing. Again. I
blasted that Biden State Department tweet, and again they deleted
it very shortly thereafter. So Biden five days later says
America stands with Israel. That's good. They finally got that
sentence correct. But I got to say, is administration didn't
stand with Israel on Saturday. They didn't stand with Israel
(07:26):
on Sunday, or on Monday or finally on Tuesday. They
get the statement out. But you know what they haven't done.
They haven't addressed Iran in the slightest Iran is who
planned this, Irans who organized this, Irans who funded this.
They haven't addressed their own culpability for sending the money
that funded this. They haven't said they're going to stop
sending the money to Iran. Instead, they've given talking points.
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America stands with Israel without any substance behind it, And meanwhile,
we have democrat after democrat in the House attacking and
undermining Israel. It is horrific. And I got to tell you,
the Jewish community in America is grieving. The Jewish community
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across the globe is grieving, but not just the Jewish community.
Christians are grieving. Anyone with any sense of humanity. When
you have monsters murdering babies, that's what we're seeing. And
even worse than that, we're seeing monsters murdering babies, and
we're seeing leftist ideologues rationalizing and justifying it.
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of it, and it's also and I want to go
back to a couple more questions. I have for you
on Biden, the fact that he didn't come out and
talk about sanctions and refused to answer the question about
the six billion. How is the six billion still on
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the table for Ran if we clearly know and his
own spokespeople, the State Department others afterwards said yes, we
know that Iran was involved in at least the planning.
There apparently was a meeting on Tuesday before this attack
in Beirut. We know that Hamas is supported financially by Iran.
(10:39):
And the President walked out of the room and would
not answer that statement. Not only that, when the White
House Press Corps pressed the White House on this issue
of why will you not just say the money's not
going there, they wouldn't give a direct answer, and you
got to ask the question at this point, whose side
are you on, mister President.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, look, unfortunately for two and a half year the
White House has answered that question. They're on the side
of Palestinian terrorists and they're on the side of Iran. Now, Ben,
let me say right now, someone listening to that may
say that's that's extreme, that's not where they are. Let
me back it up with facts. Because people are asking
about the six billion I'm glad they're asking about the
(11:18):
six billion. They should, but there are four separate buckets
of cash that anyone reasonable and rational should ask about,
because all four of them have gone to fund these atrocities.
Number one is the six billion dollars. The Biden administration
spent six billion dollars as ransom to get five Americans
(11:39):
out of Iranian captivity. Now, when that happened, I pointed
out that they set the ransom at one point two
billion dollars per American. And what I said, and what
many others said, is the result of this will be
many more Americans taken hostage, and in particular, Iran will
take many more American hostage. Now, what I didn't realize
(12:02):
is that it would be just a few weeks until
that happened. One of the things the White House acknowledged
on Tuesday, at least fourteen American citizens were killed by
hamas in this attack, and potentially upwards of twenty Americans
were taken hostage. So the Biden administration demonstrates to Iran, hey,
(12:23):
if you take Americans hostage, we'll pay you billions in ransom.
They released five, and they'd now taken upwards of twenty twenty.
At the price the Biden administration sent is twenty four
billion dollars. I am very sorry that prediction proved accurate,
but it proved accurate within weeks, and there were many
others saying the same thing. That's bucket number one, the
(12:43):
six billion dollars. That's the only thing the media is
talking about even a little bit. But there are three
other buckets that are highly relevant. The second bucket is
another ten billion dollars. That is ten billion dollars of
money that was in Iraq that the Biden d administration
just a few weeks earlier than the six billion released
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ten billion to Iran. I believe the ransom was actually
sixteen billion rather than six because you have the six
plus the ten that they had released a few weeks earlier.
That takes them to sixteen billion. But that's not even
the majority of the money Biden has sent to Iran. Look,
when Biden became president, he inherited a situation where the
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Middle East was at peace. In fact, peace was breaking
out between Israel and Israel's Arab neighbors. The Abraham Accords
had just been signed, and Iran was on its knees.
Its economy was crippled. And the reason its economy was
crippled is because the majority of their revenue comes from
oil sales, and the Trump administration, at my emphatic urging,
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had enforced strict sanctions against Iranian oil sales that had
crippled their oil sales. Well, Joe Biden came in and
immediately began not in force seeing those sanctions on oil.
As a consequence, for two and a half years, Iran
has been selling oil like crazy, much of it they're
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selling to China. So it's aiding two of our enemies.
It's aiding Iran and China. They have earned in excess
of forty billion dollars from selling oil because Joe Biden
will not enforce the sanctions against Iran. Right now, today
Iran is selling two million barrels a day of oil.
(14:34):
And you know what Joe Biden didn't say today. He
didn't say We're finally going to enforce oil sanctions. He
didn't say that, he didn't pose any new sanctions, He
didn't force any new sanctions. So presumably tomorrow Iran will
sell two million barrels of oil. Now, I gotta say,
in the debate over the money people are saying money
is fungible. Money is fungible. That's absolutely true. That's part
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of the argument. That's part of the argument about the
six billion dollars. And the Marionettes who are defending the
White House, they say, well, the six billion dollars could
only be spent on humanitarian purposes. And it's absolutely true
that money's fungible. So if you fill six billion in
one pot, they can spend other money on terrorism in
attacking Israel. But that doesn't address the ten billion dollars,
(15:17):
and it certainly doesn't address the forty billion dollars in
oil revenues, which can be spent on any damn thing
they want. And there's actually been There's a fourth bucket
of money that almost no one in the press is addressing,
which is the hundreds of millions of dollars that the
Biden administration has sent to Gaza and when they send
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it to Gaza. At the time, I led a coalition
of seventeen senators urging the Biden administration, do not send
this to Gaza. If you send it to Gaza, it
will go to ham and Hamas will use it for terrorism.
Seventeen senators altogether joined me in sending that letter. Now,
(16:09):
on the other side, in the House, some one hundred
and fifty House members, all Democrats, wrote a letter urging
one hundred and forty five, actually, House Democrats sent a
letter urging that the money be released to Hamas that included,
among others, Colin All read from Texas. One hundred and
(16:29):
forty five Democrats sent that letter urging the Biden administration
to send hundreds of millions to Gaza. Now what happened.
The Biden administration assessed, and here is the amazing thing,
which again the media is not covering. The Biden administration
knew for a fact that the money they were sending
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to Gaza would fund terrorism. Let me read you the
quote from the internal Biden administration document. Quote, due to
its all strength and level of control over Gaza, we
assess there is a high risk HAMAS could potentially derive indirect,
unintentional benefits from US assistance to Gaza. In other words,
(17:14):
this money, there's a high risk it'll be used by
Hamas for terrorism. And you know what they did. They
didn't say, oh, we don't want to fund terrorism, we
don't want to fund death squads murdering Israelis. Instead they
said no, actually we do. So they waived the anti
terrorism restrictions under US law and they sent the money anyway.
(17:35):
And in the press conference on Tuesday, Joe Biden did
not address one syllable of one word of anything I
just said. He didn't address any of the four pots
of money that, in a very very real sense, the
death squads and the worst attack on Israel in fifty
years was funded by money the Biden administration chose to
(17:56):
send to Iran and chose to send to Hamas, which
is controlled and funded by Iran.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
By the way, what you just mentioned is exactly why
this podcast we do. It is so that people can
take that that no one's covering. And we said this yesterday.
You guys did an amazing job or two days ago
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social media so that other people hear about this. And
I want to go back to the money you just
mentioned for a second. Scott Kirby, who basically I guess
is the de facto of President United States of America
because he's the only one that seems to be talking
from the White House about any of these issues. The
President won't take questions. We don't see him. They call
it at noon every day. He claimed on Fox News
(18:48):
that the quote Iran sanctions are being enforced. He got
called out for lying by Brett Hume. I want to
play this back and forth because it talks about the
money and the difference in the exports and how much
money Iran is making right now because America is not
enforcing these sanctions.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Listen, I don't have any policy decisions with respect to
that to speak to you today, Brett. I think it's
important for people to remember that not a single dnar
of that fun of those funds has gone into Iran,
not one, not any nothing's been allocated out of that fund.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, and we're gonna watch it block. Money's fungible. You
get six billion dollars over here for humanitarian and food,
so then you can move money someplace else, and then
you have the not enforcing sanctions that allows Iran to
cash in on it's oil around the world.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Brett, with all due respect, I just got to push
back on you there. It's not that we're not enforcing sanctions.
We have been enforcing them. As a matter of fact,
we've added sanctions. We've sanctioned four hundred entities in Iran
just in the beginning of this administration, let alone the
sanctions that came before us. And as for the fungibility, again,
that money was never going to be tapped by the
Iranian regime. They were never going to see it themselves.
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It was always going to go to vendors that we
approved to go to buy humanitarian assistance and medical and
food to get to the directly to the Iranian people.
The regime was never going to see that or feel that,
and they haven't asked for it. And the other thing
I'll say right.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Just before we get off this topic, No, John, I
wanted to just push back on one thing. You said
that the sanctions are being enforced the Iranian exports of
oil to China twenty twenty six point six billion, twenty
twenty one, twenty three point one billion, twenty twenty two
to thirty billion dollars. So how is that enforcing the
sanctions on Iran?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean, Centat, I'll just stop there and let you
respond to that. They're lying and he just got called
out for lying. You go from six point six billion
in twenty twenty to now you're talking, you know, thirty
billion in twenty twenty three. How is that enforcing these sanctions?
The White House is clearly looking the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Well, they are, and they're doing it because the number
one foreign policy objective of the Biden administer station remains,
I assume to this day, re entering the disastrous Obama
Iran nuclear deal. It's their number one priority. It's why
they're undermining the war in Ukraine. It's why they are
making every other foreign policy issues subservient to flooding cash
(21:18):
into Iran. And listen, the numbers are clear. Iran right
now today is selling two million barrels of oil a day.
When Biden came into office, they were selling a tiny
fraction of that because the oil sanctions had crippled their economy.
(21:40):
And this was not accidental. It's a conscious decision. And
you know John Kirby. John Kirby is a retired rear
admiral from the Navy. He's somewhat who devoted his life
to the military, and he's turned into bagdad Bob. He's
just willing to go out and lie for the Biden administration.
It when he is saying things like we are enforcing sank,
(22:00):
he sounds like Kareine Jean Pierre, And I got to
say the willingness that I actually find it sad to
see someone, a career military man, willing to sell his
integrity down the river by just lying on behalf of an administration.
That's what he's doing.
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One other question about the hostages. I think there's still
disbelief right now at the lack of intensity from this
(23:47):
administration on words having meaning and saying to these hostages takers,
we will come after you if you do not release
the American hostage. Why is it that this administration weve
uses to say things like that to defend American.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Lives because they don't believe it, because this president is
so weak that if you take American hostages, he won't
come after you. Look, Joe Biden has already become Jimmy
Carter and even worse, I got to say, I was
a kid when Jimmy Carter was president. I remember the
hostage crisis in nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty where
American hostages were held in Iran, same people doing it
(24:25):
for four hundred and forty four days. It brought down
the Jimmy Carter presidency. I remember, for example, that the
TV show Nightline. I don't know if you know this bend,
but it was started during the Iran hostage crisis because
every night ABC, this is back when we had functioning journalism,
would cover the hostage crisis, and Ted Copple started Nightline
(24:46):
to cover it every single night, the ongoing hostage crisis.
Where's CNN on the American hostage crisis? Where's ABC that
they could relaunch Nightline? Where's CBS, NBC? We have twenty
American hostages. And do the American president say if you
hurd a hostage, we will there will be massive repercussions. Nope, nope. Instead,
(25:09):
his State Department said stand down, no military repercussions whatsoever. Apparently,
take a hostage and you know, we'll get out our
checkbook and write billions of dollars this weakness is endangering
America and it's endangering our allies.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I want to ask you quickly about the media, because
something you just said reminded me of the media. Are
you shocked by the amount of anti Semitism we are
witnessing on TV right now from people that many respect journalists.
I want to give you an example. Andrea Mitchell today
said this about Hamas.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Historically, the post in the authority has gotten weaker and
weaker as Jimas has gained strength and popularity because the
posting the authority is weakened by the nation's government settlement
and by showing that it has not much much authority.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean, she keeps giving excuses for why Hamas is
gaining strength and says, well, it's because of this, or
it's because of that, And she went on to continue
to say even after that that this is because of
the problem that Israel created. And she's saying this on
TV while she's also putting out the propaganda from the
(26:26):
Palacindian Health Ministry that eight hundred and thirty innocent people
killed in Gaza another four thousand, two hundred fifty injured,
many of them children, And she's selling this to the
American people that there's well, there's a both sides quote
argument here. Israelis are not beheading infant children, They're not
dragging women through the streets and raping them. They're not
(26:47):
throwing dead bodies in the back of the trucks like
we saw during the Holocaust. That is only the terrorists
on the side of Hamas. Period.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The corporate media hates Israel, and you have to understand
a very important part of the strategy of Hamas they
engage in this barbarism, They engage in these attacks and
they know the response from Israel is going to be
a military strike. I believe Benjamin Etyah, who is going
to take out Hamas. I think he is going to
(27:18):
take out their military leadership, take out their weapons, take
out their rockets, take out their soldiers, take out their terrorists.
He's going to eliminate Hamas. That is going to be
a bloody war. It is going to last a minimum
of weeks, it may last months. Hamas's strategy, as Israel
engages in that effort to take out Hamas, is going
(27:38):
to be to count on the corporate media to be
their pr spokespeople. So we're already hearing just a few
days into this conflict, the Palestinian body counts. What the
corporate media doesn't tell you is the reason Palestinians are
dying is because Hamas wants them to die. Because Hamas
(27:59):
uses Palestinians as human shields. Israel is sending text, is
sending warnings asking civilians get out of the way, get
out of harm's way. We're going to strike this location here.
It's a Hamas stronghold, it's a headquarters, it's where they
have rockets. Get out of the way. Hamas is telling
the civilians stay there. Why, because we want you dead.
(28:19):
You have to understand Hamas. They want Palestinians dead because
a dead Palestinian, even better, a bit dead Palestinian mother
or child, is invaluable to Hamas as a propaganda tool
because they know that the tweeting numbskulls in the media
will use that to attack Israel and will say they
(28:42):
are barbarians. That is what this is all about. And
so you need to get ready. The New York Times,
the New York Times will wage a pr war against Israel.
It will portray the Palestinians as oppressed people, and these
poor Hamas terrorists are Smiths understood. Let me tell you,
when you are beheading babies, you're not misunderstood. You're a monster,
(29:07):
and you deserve to be treated as such.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
There was also something else that shocked me, and it
happened today on TV. John Kirby was asked a question,
and this terrifies me about our readiness as a nation militarily.
He was asked about the possibility of a special operation
to rescue Americans from Israel, and he answered in a
(29:31):
way that I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Listen, you ruling out some kind of special operation to
rescue American citizens.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I'm not ruling any I'm not ruling anything in or out.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Brett.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
We're not prepared to do that at this time. We
just don't have enough information to get into policy possibilities
and options. We obviously take the safety and security of
Americans overseas very seriously. President Biden has made that clear,
and bringing home now almost forty Americans that were wrongfully detained,
we'll certainly act with that same sense of alacrity and
urgency here and seriousness. But again, we just don't have
(30:05):
We just don't have the numbers that confirm. We don't
have the information to be able to talk with any
great specificity about what the options might be.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
He just said there to the world and to the
terrorists we're in un quoting exactly, we're not prepared to
do that at this time.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The Biden administration is incapable of projecting strength. It's incapable
of standing up to our enemies. Biden's approach from day
one is to every enemy of America, whether it is Iran,
whether it is North Korea, whether it is Venezuela, whether
it is China, whether it is Russia, projecting weakness and
projecting appeasement. So he cannot say, if you do not
(30:46):
release Americans, you will face overwhelming consequences to the military
leaders of AMAS. Release the Americans, or you will die.
That's actually what a commander in chief who's defending Americans
would say. By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu, who doesn't have
time for the nonsense that the Biden White House engages in,
(31:07):
that's exactly what he's saying. He is saying they are
going to eradicate Hamas, that they cannot live with this
terror threat, with these monsters targeting women and children and civilians.
They're not engaged in war, they're not attacking military targets.
Hamas is not. They are engaged in terrorism targeting babies.
Babies are not military targets. And unfortunately the Biden administration,
(31:33):
their weakness causes our enemies to be stronger, to be
more aggressive, because they say this president is a pushover,
and the more hostages we take, the more billions of
dollars they'll give us, and then we'll use those billions
of dollars to take even more hostages and to kill
even more Jews. That's what's going on here, and the
(31:53):
Biden administration bears direct culpability, which is why after Joe
Biden gave a statement and he ran out of the
room and didn't answer a single press question because they
cannot defend their disgraceful policy.
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Let's talk about this from a a internal and inside
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of the US perspective for a minute as well. Colleges
Harvard University of Pennsylvania, Black Lives Matter, standing with these terrorists.
You have federally elected leaders around the country that are
standing with these terrorists. You have a Colorado State Representative,
(34:04):
Tim Hernandez who said this today.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
I think it's despicable what they're protesting for, protesting relations
and the fact that you can't condemn women and children
and elderly people being all over in the streets.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
What about it?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Do you condemn it? I already said, why can't you
say yes?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Because I already gave you my answer if you didn't.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Give an answer, and every I think anybody who watches
would understand.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
This is a man who's at a protest against Israel,
who's been elected to the state legislature. You put that,
and you combine that with the squad Senator. I will
give a little credit the White House at least today
understood that they need to stand up against Omar and
to leave and others.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
The White House Press Secretary did say that what they
had said was repugnant and disgraceful their statements on Israel.
But you combine these young leaders with what we're now
witnessing on college campuses, is at Harvard at University of Penn.
It scares me for this country. There was a conversation
even about this on CNBC, even CNBC who deals with
(35:15):
financial issues, like what the hell is going on on
college campuses? And this is what they said.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Let me ask you a question. Let's say you're the
president of Harvard University. If you've looked at what's happening
to Harvard, there are students who are mind boggling, right,
but students who are gathering to support the Palestinians, to
support Hamas, frankly, very very specifically to support Hamas and
what's happening. What is the role of the president of
(35:41):
a university or frankly the president of a company when
they have either students or employees or others who want
to view and express that position, which I find disgraceful,
But I wonder.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Well, I think what the you're supposed to look? The
first thing that I would do if I was a
president Harvard University, I would say, we are clearly not
educating students for students to think that. Again, you know,
murder at scale is somehow legitimate, that occupation causes terror.
I mean, there are no Israelis in Gaza. For goodness sakes,
(36:20):
it's a silly turn of phrase. But to your question,
what would I do well? Number one, I would say
we need to revisit our entire core education because they're
clearly not teaching morals or values. That's number one. And
then number two, the president of Harvard, like the president
of U Penn, like the president's institutions, needs to stand
up and speak out and say this is disgraceful and
wrong students are.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
But they're not doing that, Senator, They're not saying it's wrong.
They're waiting days to even respond. And it's only after
famous alumni and donors finally came down them to the
point where like you have to give a statement, and
they put out a basic statement on paper.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well, let me say the voice you were just hearing
there was Jonathan Greenblatt. He's the head of the Anti
Day Information League, and I'm glad he's speaking out. He
actually was speaking clearly and effectively there. The ADL has
a long history of calling out anti Semitism, in recent
years it has been far too willing to basically act
as a defender for the Democrat Party and as a partisan,
(37:15):
And so I'm glad they're standing up and speaking with clarity.
Here it's important. But look what happened at Harvard. You
have thirty five student groups that put out a statement.
I want you to understand what they said. I'm going
to read you from the joint statement by Harvard Palestine
Solidarity Groups on the situation in Palestine. No, it's the
situation of Palestine, not Israel. They don't even acknowledge Israel exists. We,
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the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible
for all unfolding violence. That's the opening sentence. It is
Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists are murdering children. It is
(38:00):
Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists are raping women and little
girls in the streets and parading them through the street.
It is Israel's fault that they are kidnapping toddlers and
holding them hostage. It is Israel's fault that they are
using those toddlers as human shields. They're using women and
men as human shields. It's Israel's fault that Hamas terrorists
are murdering civilians indiscriminately, walking house by house by house,
(38:24):
and if you're a Jew, they murder. You what a ridiculous,
outrageous situation. And look that statement they put out. Initially,
for the first couple of days, Harvard said nothing. It
was the only statement from the Harvard campus that anyone
seemed to be aware of. Then Harvard put out an
(38:45):
initial statement that was the most milk toasted, lukewarm statement
of well, we want to be a safe space for
people to have all sorts of us, you know, the
pro genocide mass murder view and the anti genocide mass
murder view. No, I'm sorry that it's not a topic
of reasonable debate. Beheading babies is always, always, always wrong, period,
(39:06):
full stop. Finally, on Tuesday, the president of Harvard was
guilted into condemning we stand against Hamas's beheading babies. It
took five days of getting pounded. I got to say, listen,
I'm an alumnus of Harvard Law School. It is embarrassing
(39:28):
that our universities. The problem is they've become petri dishes.
They become incubators for radical left wing views and other
than a Hamas headquarters, there are a few places with
more vicious anti semitism and hatred of Israel than America's
elite universities today. You talk to Hillel's students, you talk
(39:53):
to Jewish students on campuses. They're afraid. They're afraid of violence.
They're afraid to wear a yamaka. They're afraid to be
public identified as Jewish because they risk violence. They wish,
they risk swastika's being spray painted on their student center,
they risk attacks from the radical left. And the radical
(40:13):
left more and more embraces, cherishes and nurtures anti Semitism,
and schools like Harvard sadly are the breeding grounds for
this hatred and they can't figure it out enough to stay.
Genocide is bad. That should not be a controversial proposition.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, and even members in Congress Rashid to leave was
was asked directly to her face what she thought about
women being raped and babies getting their heads cut off.
She wouldn't answer the question. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
And burn children alive to deep support Israel's rights, to
defend themselves in into reality. You can't comment and hamas
terras chopping off baby's heads, Thomas, woman, do you have
a comment and the MOA's terrors talking alms? You have
(41:16):
a mother who say about ammas terror no baby heads.
Do you condone what Hamas has done chopping off baby's heads,
burning children? And why Ramy went through the street? Do
you have no comment about children's heads being chopped off?
(41:44):
Commssman Whimy, how the hellis did you climb outside your
office if you do not even know what the mos
terrors is about? To his root?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Do is?
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Ramy?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Why does not matter to you? I mean senator that
was whoever that reporter was. God bless her for continuing
to ask a basic question. Children will burned alive, baby's
heads are cut off.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And I gotta say, if you haven't seen the video
of that clip, you got to google it and watch it,
because watching the video is even more disturbing. So Congresswoman
to leave is walking down the hallways in Congress, so
the steps you hear the whole time, or she's walking,
she's walking, she's walking in this reporter just asked her,
do you not have a comment on chopping babies heads off?
(42:31):
How hard is it for a congresswoman to say we
should not chop the heads off babies, we should not
burn children alive, we should not rape women in the streets.
That is not in a normal, sane world a controversial proposition,
and yet her politics are so radical she cannot bring
(42:52):
herself to say that she has in front of her
office she has a Palestinian flag. It's interesting she has
a Palestinian flag and she has a transgender flag, which
is ironic because Hamas would murder anyone who's gay or transgender.
So like, the two flags are utterly in conflict. But
in today's modern left that that nobody bothers with intellectual coherence.
(43:12):
They embrace their ideology and don't worry about it. But
but I gotta say, it is stunning, Like she walks
a long, long way and the end of that video
she gets on an elevator and the door closes, and
and and and you know, she asked, do Israeli lives matter?
And by the way, Congresswoman Talib conspicuously avoids using the
word Israel. She refers to Palestine. Look, today's radical left
(43:36):
in the Democrat Party does not acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
And I gotta say, it's not just Congresswoman to leave.
It's it's it's it's Corey Bush. It's AOC. It is
the hard left of the Democrat Party. And by the way,
it's the Biden State Department whose response initially to this
(43:59):
was is real, stand down, do not engage in any
military action following the worst attack on Israel in fifty years,
following Israel's nine to eleven, do nothing. That is sadly
the view of today's radical left. And for the Democrats
who don't agree with it, I hope that they find
(44:22):
the courage to call out the members of their own
party that are saying things that are disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Black Lives Matter. They have also come out in support
of these terrorists, standing with Hamas, standing with what they
have done, the same Black Lives Matter that received billions
upon billions of dollars in free advertising from virtually every
major league sport in this country. They were given end
zones and helmets and decals on helmets, they were given
(44:50):
the corners of TV time on different parts of fields
to give them free press. And now they're coming out
supporting and I bring that up to go to some else.
There was a muslimman speaking to a large crowd today
in Times Square of those that were supporting Hamas and
the Palestinians, and this musliman speing in New York City
(45:11):
said this is the correct religion. We will not stop
until it enters every home. Now, that is a concern
that many people are worried about with terrorists coming across
the border. We have new numbers that have come out
that deal with special interest aliens, the apprehensions specifically from
people coming from the Middle East. We also have found
(45:32):
out center that we've had more people that have been
caught coming across the southern border illegally that are on
the Terrists watch list this year than the last five
years combined. When you witness what happened in Israel, and
you remember nine to eleven, and you look at this
open border, and you look at these special interest aliens,
(45:53):
and you look at the number of people on the
terrast squatch lists that have been caught five times more
than are more this year than the last five years combined.
There is a real concern now that something like what
happened there could happen in America.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well, listen, that's exactly right. And if you look at
the statistics from Customs and Border Patrol, here are the
people who've been apprehended crossing into the United States illegally
over the last two years. And this is just focusing
on the special interest countries, which are the countries where
there is a high predominance of terrorism from Syria five
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hundred and thirty eight, from Yemen, one hundred and thirty
nine from Iran, six hundred and fifty nine from Iraq,
one hundred and twenty three from Afghanistan, six thousand, three
hundred and eighty six from Lebanon, one hundred and sixty
four from Egypt, three thousand, one hundred and fifty three
from Pakistan, one thousand, six hundred and thirteen from Mauritania,
(46:51):
fifteen thousand, five hundred and ninety four, from Uzbekistan thirteen thousand,
six hundred and twenty four and from Turkey thirty thousand,
eight one hundred and thirty And that is from October
of twenty twenty one to October of twenty twenty three.
Now those are the numbers that have been caught. That
doesn't count the million plus godaways, the people who weren't caught.
(47:14):
And I got to say, as we look to next steps,
there is a real risk of escalation in Israel. There's
a real risk of additional terrorist attacks. There's a real
risk of Hesbela in the North Hamas is primarily in
the south in the Gaza Strip. Hesbela is north of Israel.
Hesbela has not yet actively engaged in this war. They
may well begin raining rockets down on Israel, which would
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give Israel a two front war. There's a real risk
of additional acts of terror, But there is an enormous
risk of acts of terror in the United States. And
when Joe Biden and the Democrats and every congressional Democrat
is complicit in this, when they implemented their open border policies,
when they began letting terrorists into those countries into this
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country in massive numbers, it is only a matter of
time before we have another terrorist attack. And I've got
to say, in the midst of this war in Israel,
the chances of that are rising dramatically. And look, I
pray to God it doesn't happen. I pray to God.
It is not of the order of magnitude of September eleventh.
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But the Biden administration, if they have open borders, if
you were a terrorist and you wanted to murder Americans,
the Biden administration has made it blazingly obvious what you
should do. You should go to Mexico and cross illegally
over the border because they'll let you, they won't catch you.
You'll get to stay, and then you can wage war
and commit acts of terrorism. And I think America is
(48:41):
much much less safe because of the intersection between Joe
Biden's weakness number one, Joe Biden's policy of funding enemies
of America like Iran and like Amas number two, and
Joe Biden's open borders with all of the other Democrats
their open which are allowing hundreds, if not thousands of
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terrorists and other criminals to flood into this country. The
chances of a serious terrorist attack, I think have never
been higher since September eleventh than they are right now today.
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