November 24, 2025 • 33 mins
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Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Resignation
- Greene announced she will resign from Congress in January.
- This is a significant moment for the Republican Party, emphasizing internal accountability and contrasting it with perceived Democratic inaction on radical elements.
- Greene’s shift from pro-Trump to anti-Israel and anti-capitalist positions is highlighted as a cautionary tale.
- Donald Trump’s withdrawal of support is portrayed as the decisive factor in her resignation.
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Minnesota Welfare Fraud Funding Al-Shabaab
- A report claims Minnesota taxpayers indirectly funded the terrorist group Al-Shabaab through massive welfare fraud.
- Fraud involved members of the Somali community in Minnesota, exploiting Medicaid programs like Housing Stabilization Services.
- Billions of dollars were stolen, with millions allegedly routed to Somalia and ultimately to Al-Shabaab via informal money networks.
- The commentary criticizes Democratic leadership and media for ignoring the issue, framing it as both a security threat and a failure of governance.
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Texas Redistricting Battle
- Texas redrew its congressional map to add five Republican seats.
- A federal district court struck down the map, but Justice Alito issued a stay, keeping the new map in place for now.
- This decision could determine control of the House and contrasts Republican and Democratic gerrymandering practices.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson
with it's signs to have you with us a Thanksgiving week,
and we've got a lot to cover on this show
today that you're not going to want to miss, including
a moment of clarity I think for the Republican Party
that deals with someone deciding I'm going to resign from Congress,
Senator your reaction to Margie Taylor Green saying I'm out.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well. Marjorie Taylor Green announced she's going to resign from
Congress in January. It's a big deal. She was a
major player of the House representatives. Her views I think
had gotten more and more extreme. President Trump had announced
he was withdrawing his support from her because she had
gotten so extreme. We're going to break that down. We're
going to talk about why she's stepping down. We're going
to talk about what it means. I think it's a
(00:43):
consequential moment in the House and it's a consequential moment
for the country. We're also going to talk about her
a really astonishing story, which is welfare fraud by Somali's
in Minnesota funneled millions of dollars of tax payer money
to the Islamic terrorist organization Al Shabab. It really is
a stunning, stunning story that's been reported and it shows
(01:08):
the really pernicious things that we're seeing unfolding in our country.
And finally, we're going to talk about Texas redistricting. Texas redistricting,
as everyone knows, the state of Texas redrew the map
to add five Republican House seats, a federal district court
struck that down, and then on appeal, the Supreme Court
has halted the decision of the federal district court. We're
(01:29):
going to talk about what's likely to happen in Texas
redistricting and what it means for control of the House
of Representatives in the midterms.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
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All right, Senator, so let's start with Margie Taylor Green.
(03:52):
I genuinely thought this was a great moment for conservatives,
for the conservative movement, for the Republican Party watching her
decide to resign. And the reason why I say that
is because it gave me hope that we are so
different than the Democratic Party. We police our own and
we call out those that are about actors, unlike the
(04:13):
Democratic Party that is not policed their party at all.
Now that you're witnessing socialists getting elected in two major
cities in this country, and radical leftists that have taken over,
and yet we still seem to have a moment of
clarity where I hold, on a second, this is not
what we believe. I found it incredibly encouraging your reaction.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, Ben, I think you make a good point if
you look about and this is something I've been talking
quite a bit about. Ten years ago on the Democrat Party,
we saw anti semitism, radical extreme anti semitism rising on
the Democrat Party, and Democrat leadership didn't do anything about it.
They basically look the other direction. They said, gosh, this
is a small fringe view, we don't need to worry
(04:54):
about it. It'll be fine. And in the decade that followed,
we have seen pro hamas consume the Democrat Party. Now
you and I have talked about, and I've been talking
publicly a lot about, I see the same thing potentially
starting to happen on the right. I've seen more anti
semitism in the last six months on the right that
I've seen in my entire life. And my hope is
(05:15):
the Republican Party doesn't make the mistakes that the Democrats
did that we say enough is enough. No, And I'll
tell you this is striking because if you look at
in Republicans and the House of Representatives. The vast majority
of elected Republicans in both the House and Senate are
passionately pro Israel. They're supporters of the US Israel alliance
(05:37):
and relationship. They understand the national security benefits of standing
with Israel. They understand that when Israel is killing Hamas
and hesbela terrorist, when Israel is taking out Iranian ier
GC terrorists, that they're making America safer. They're a handful
of House Republicans who become more and more vocal as
(05:57):
voices for being anti Israel. Marjorie Taylor Green was on
the front of that list. In fact, the leading to
House Republicans who had become vocal anti Israel voices were
Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates. And I do think
it's striking that Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates very
soon neither one of them is going to be in
the House. Matt Gates already resigned and Green announced that
(06:19):
she's going to resign in January. And I think that's
really that is a powerful statement. Yet, you ought to
ask yourself why didn't AOC resign, Why didn't ilhan Omar resign.
Why didn't Rashida Tali resign? Why didn't the radicals and
the Democrat Party resign? And it's because their leadership fundamentally
was weak. And I want to commend Donald Trump. If
(06:41):
there's one person who is most responsible for Marjorie Taylor
Green resigning, it is j Trump. Here's what he put
out on truth Social quote. I am withdrawing my support
and endorsement of quote unquote, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green of
the Great State of Georgia over the past few weeks,
despite my creating record achievements for our country, including a
total and complete victory on the shutdown, closed borders, low taxes,
(07:05):
no men and women's sports or transgender for everyone, ending DEI,
stopping Biden's record setting inflation, biggest regulation cuts in history,
stopping eight wars, rebuilding our military, being highly respected by
every country in the world as opposed to being the
laughingstock that we were just twelve months ago, having trillions
of dollars record setting invested in the USA, and having
(07:28):
created the hottest country anywhere in the world from being
a dead country just twelve months ago, and so much more.
All I see wacky Marjorie, do is complain? Complain? Complain?
It seemed to all begin when I sent her a
poll stating that she should not run for senator or governor.
She was at twelve percent and didn't have a chance unless,
(07:51):
of course, she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about
to get. Now, look, when Trump said that that he
was going to oppose her, it changed the dynas significantly,
And it changes so much that she put out a
statement this past week saying she's done. She's resigning in January.
She's withdrawing from the Congress. And listen, Marjorie Taylor Green.
(08:13):
She got elected five years ago. She's not been in
the House very long. She is a loud voice. She
used to be maybe the single loudest voice pro Trump,
and we saw her and it actually, I think it's
a cautionary tale about when you embrace anti Semitic views,
(08:34):
anti Israel views, you quickly start down a slippery slope.
Where she began attacking Donald Trump, she began attacking capitalism.
She began attacking much like Tucker Carlson attacking who America is.
She went on the View and had a love fest
with the left wing host on the views she was
(08:55):
arguing for expanding and extending the Obamacare subsidies. I mean,
it really was a good example that once you start
down that road, all of the rest of conservatism goes
out the window as well.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, it was a moment where I was genuinely proud
to be a conservative, also a Trump supporter, and I
loved the fact that President was this blunt about it.
Because if you don't have moral clarity on issues like
anti semitism, so goes your party. And we've seen what happens,
(09:30):
and the Democrats are a cautionary tale. The most radical
of the radicals in this country are now within the
Democratic Party, and many of them are leading the Democratic Party.
And I worry that we could go down that road
if we didn't start policing our own and making sure
especially those that become radical and anti Semites were not
police better. I think the other part about this is
(09:52):
not only is she going to be out of Congress,
but her voice is going to disappear, I believe, from
the conservative movement as well in a major way. And
that also is a consequence, whereas many times Democrats is
a complete opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I don't know that it'll disappear. I actually think
she may be similar to Matt Gates, where they both
will continue to espouse whackier and whackier views, views that
are more and more out of the mainstream of Republicans
and conservatives. But I do think it will be a
much smaller platform. And you know, Ben, I actually talked
(10:25):
to President Trump about it this weekend. He called me
Friday night and we spent probably fifteen twenty minutes on
the phone. We were talking about lots of different things,
but one of the things just as we were making
conversations about, I don't know, eleven o'clock at night Friday night,
and I said, miss President, were you surprised that Marjor
Taylor Green stepped down? And he sort of laughed and said, no, no,
(10:46):
I wasn't surprised at all. And he mentioned he said
he said she was mad because he said she would
call him once twice, three times a week and he
wasn't calling her back all the time. And you know,
he said, look, I've got fifty three Senate Republicublicans, I've
got two hundred and nineteen House Republicans. I've got a
couple one hundred leaders of countries across the world, and
(11:07):
I sort of laughed. I said, yeah, look, you're a
very very busy man. And to be honest, I don't
call Trump all that off. And I probably talked to Trump,
I don't know, every two weeks, i'd say on average,
but I try not to. Some of my colleagues call
him a lot. And you know, I told him, I said, look,
you're a busy man. I try not to bother you,
just to like call, to tug on your shirts, leave
(11:30):
and say, you know, high, high high, Like I try
to call when I've got a purpose, I've got an objective,
I've got a decision that I think is important, something
we need to get done. But it was interesting. He
said she was calling him several times a week and
it was just too much. And you know, I think
his withdrawing his support from her is what caused her
to drop out. And I'm glad of that. I mean,
(11:52):
I do think it shows Republicans being willing to say
we're not going to embrace the radicals, and in a
way that it's hard to think of a time the
Democrats have done that in modern history.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I hope this also is a cautious shot across
the bow to any others that are out there in
the Republican movement that are going down the same road
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be silent about it, you're probably wrong. And that we
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a story that I hope everyone listening will actually share
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social media as well, because this is one of those
(14:34):
stories for me that I am hoping we will be
able to make it go viral. There are so many
people that voted for President Trump because they wanted there
to be clarity on waste fraud and abuse in our government.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's what DOGE was created around.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And the amount of waste fraud abuse of our tax
dollars has become absolutely massive. Now we're seeing some states
be very proactive and and fighting this. We've seen local
governments where it's happening, it's trickling down.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think that's also incredible.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But there is a story that broke that is should
make every American angry, and that is this story of
the largest funder of Al Shabab turns out to be
an Al Shabab is a terist organization, a smalling terrists
organization is actually the Minnesota taxpayers. Now that may just
(15:27):
seem like a weird headline to people, but what we're
witnessing is tax dours funneling directly to the Islamic Terrasts organization,
and it's been going on at numbers that were clearly
warning signs when Joe Biden was president in the amount
of funds that were leaving Minnesota, and no one seemed
about an eye or no one seemed to care that
(15:50):
this was happening. Break it down for everybody that doesn't
know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, this is a story that's really at the intersection
of two issues that matter enormously. Number one is wait
for waste, fraud and abuse in government, and we see
that at the federal government, we see that at the
state level, particularly in big blue states. But secondly, the
rise of radical Islam in America, and it's dangerous, it
is threatening our liberty, and it is spreading. It's spreading
(16:14):
often with the enthusiastic cheerleading of Democrat elected officials. This
story is right at the intersection of both of them.
And so the City Journal reported I'm just going to
read a portion of this article because it really is
it's a stunning report, and it begins. The largest funder
of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer. How some of
the state's welfare funds ended up in the hands of
(16:35):
a terror group. Minnesota is drowning and fraud. Billions in
taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor
Tim Waltz alone. Of course, Tim Waltz was Kamala Harris's
nominated BVP Democrat. State officials overseeing one of the most
generous welfare regimes in the country are asleep at the switch,
and the media, duty bound by progressive pietes, refuse to
(16:59):
connect the dots. In many cases, the fraud has allegedly
been perpetrated by members of the Minnesota sizable Somali community.
Federal counter terrorism support sources confirm that millions of dollars
millions in stolen funds had been sent back to Somalia,
where they ultimately landed in the hands of the terror
group Al Schebab. One confidential source put it quote, the
(17:22):
largest funder of al Chebab is the Minnesota taxpayer. Our
investigation shows what happens when a tribal mindset meets a
bleeding heart bureaucracy. When imported clan loyalties collide with a
political class too timid to offend, and when accusations of
racism are cynically deployed to shield criminal behavior, the predictable
(17:43):
result is graft, with taxpayers left to foot the bill.
If you were designed to design a welfare program to
facilitate fraud, it would probably look a lot like Minnesota's
Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services Program. The HHS program, the first
of its kind in the country, was launched with the
noble goal to help seniors, addicts that disabled in the
mentally ill secure housing. It was designed with quote low
(18:06):
barriers to entry and quote minimal requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless,
before the program went live in twenty twenty, officials pegged
its annual estimated price tag at two point six million dollars.
Cost quickly spiraled out of control. In twenty twenty one,
the program paid out more than twenty one million dollars.
By the way, it was projected to be two point
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six million. In the following year, annual costs shot up
to forty two million, then seventy four million, then one
hundred and four million. On August first, Minnesota's Department of
Human Services moved to scrap the HHS program, noting that
payment to seventy seven housing stabilization providers had terminated this
year due to credible allegations of fraud. Joe Thompson, then
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the acting US Attorney for the District of Minnesota, when
even further saying the vast majority let me repeat that
the vast majority of the HHS program was fraudulent. On
September eighteenth, Thompson announced criminal indictments for HHS fraud against
Maktar Hassan, Aiden, Mustafa Daibe, by Lee, Khalid, Ahmed daib
(19:11):
Ab de Fita, Mohammed Mohammad, Christopher Adisoli Falat. By the way, Ben,
you try to go through those names, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm going to pass on that. Great job. I give
you a B plus on that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Okay, six of whom, according to the US Attorney's office,
are members of Minnesota Somali community. Thompson made clear this
is the first round of charges for HSS fraud that
his office will be prosecuting most of these cases. Unlike
a lot of Medicare fraud, medicaid fraud nationally aren't just
overbilling Thompson said to press conference announcing the indictments. These
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are often just purely fictitious companies solely created to defraud
the system, and that's unique in the extent to which
we have that here in Minnesota. Thompson said, many of
the firms enrolled in the program operated out of dilapidated
storefronts or run down office buildings. The perpetrators often targeted
people recently released from rehab, signed them up for Medicaid
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services they had no intention of providing. He noted many
of the owners of companies engaged in HHS fraud had
other companies through which they built other Medicaid programs, such
as the EIDBI Autism program, the Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health
Services Program, the Integrated Community Services Program, the Community Access
for Disability Inclusion Program PCA Services, and other Medicaid waivers services.
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What we see are schemes stacked upon schemes, draining resources
meant for those most in needs. It feels never ending.
I have spent my career as a fraud prosecutor, and
the depth of the fraud in Minnesota takes my breath away.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You read that and you just think about how much
money this is that not only was stolen from the taxpayers,
and they go into how much it kept growing and
growing and growing these programs. But it's obvious that people
knew there was fraud. Then you find out it's going
to a terrorist organization, and so we're funding the terrorist organization.
(21:11):
How the hell do people not go to jail for this?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well they are a number of people are being prosecuted.
But you know what is striking is not just was
their massive fraud, but the massive fraud was funding terrorism.
Here's what the City Journal continues saying. Perhaps the most
surprising aspect of the Somali fraud story is the scale,
with total costs running into the billions of taxpayer dollars.
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That raises the question what happened to all that money?
The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums and remittances
or money transfers from Minnesota to Somalia, according to reports,
and estimated forty percent of households in Somalia get remittances
from abroad. In twenty twenty three alone, the Somali diaspora
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sent back one point seven billion dollars, more than the
Somali government's budget for that year. Our investigation reveals for
the first time that some of this money has been
directed to an even more troubling destination, the al Qaeda
linked Islamic terror group Al Schebab. According to multiple law
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enforcement sources, Minnesota's Somali community has sent untold millions through
a network of Hualas, informal clan based money traders that
have wound up in the coffers of Al Schebab. According
to Glenn Kerns, a retired Seattle Police Department detective who
spent fourteen years on a federal Joint terrorism task force,
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the Somalis ran a sophisticated money network spanning from Seattle
to Minneapolis, and we're routing significant amounts of cash on
commercial flights from the Seattle airport to the Juala networks
in Somalia. One of these networks, Kerns discovered, sent twenty
million dollars abroad in a single year. So this is
money that's coming from the Minnesota taxpayers. It is going
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through the Somalia Somali community in Minnesota back to Somalia
on the order of magnitude of one point seven billion
dollars a year, and millions of those dollars were flowing
directly to al Shabab and al Kaita linked major terrorist organization,
that this is tragic, it is shocking. And by the way,
(23:23):
I'm curious, have you seen it on CNN, no, NBCCBS.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Nope, none of them, none of them touching.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It, MSNBC, no, Washington Post, New York Times, Nope. You
would think that would be news.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I also look at the amount of money and how
quickly it grew. That's something else that I do think
is interesting. Here is how I mean you want to
talk about warning signs center, there was clear warning signs,
like very very clear warning signs that this was happening,
and yet no one in government seemed to stop paw
(24:00):
or ask a question. That part also to me is
just like is it always unlimited funds?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Is that how it's now? In government?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And whatever you start just keep making it grow and
double and trip win size year after year after year
and spending and and no one's like, hold on a second,
this doesn't add up this many kids with autism that
doesn't seem normal. Well, how much it went doubled from
last year the year before the year before that. I mean,
there's a clear line here of like red flags that
no one seemed.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
To care about well.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And it's worth remembering Tim Waltz is not someone at
the fringe of the Democrat Party. Tim Waltz is who
Kamala Harris thought should be vice President of the United States.
Presumably Kamala thought that she should he should succeed her
and become the President of the United States. And Tim
Waltz like like many Democrats, but what Waltzes is worse
than many of them just look the other way, just
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turned a blind eye. And one combination, it's a combination
of a number of factors. One piece of it is
just the left wing view that the more money you're
giving way and welfare the better, and so it doesn't
matter how much it grows. If you're giving a million
dollars this year, they wanted to be two million, then four,
then six, then eight and twelve. They want it to
grow without any any consideration about number one, bankrupting the
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state and the taxpayers. But number two about the impact
of spending all that money trapping people in dependency. But
a second component of it, it's not just dependency. Dependency
assumes someone's actually getting well for payments. It is also
bleatant fraud and there is unfortunately a network of corruption
where many of those engage in fraud are also writing
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checks to elect Democrats. And if you look at the
Somali community in Minnesota, it is a major voting network
that votes for Democrats in Minnesota. And so at the
end of the day, the Democrats, when it comes to
buying votes, shoveling this cash into this maw of fraud,
even though the taxpayers were being robbed and the money
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was going to a radical Islamic terrorist organization. If you're
a Democrat, it made political sense on some level because
you got money and you got votes. And it is
astonishing that there's not do you know a single Democrat
denouncing this. No, I mean that's a striking thing.
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Yeah, that's why I love doing the show, because it's
we give you this. And then, as I said earlier,
I'll say it again. I genuinely hope that everyone that's
listening will grab this put it on their social media
because I think it's really important that people.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's why this podcast is valuable.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, there, no doubt about it.
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it's a victory update and it deals with Texas redistricting.
It's set off a firefight with California, Gavin Newsom getting
involved in them doing some just unbelievable jerrymandering of the
map out in California. They claimed it was in retaliation
for what Texas was doing. Then Democrats went after Texas
(27:58):
and try to stop it. And now we have Justice Alito,
who is involved at the Spring Court level. Give this
update about the Texas redistricting fight.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, as everyone knows, President Trump has asked state legislatures
Republican legislatures to redraw the map to elect more Republicans
to the House. A significant reason for that is that
there is right now an imbalance. Democrats have gerrymandered the
living daylights out of blue state. So blue states send
an overwhelming majority of their delegation to be Democrats despite
(28:31):
the votes of their citizens. And let me give you
some specific numbers. So Texas right now has thirty eight
congressional seats. Right now, Republicans have twenty five of those,
Democrats have thirteen. That means the percentage of Republicans in
the delegation today is right about sixty six percent. Now,
about fifty six percent of the state voted voted for Trump,
(28:52):
a little more than fifty six percent, so the current
delegation is slightly more than the statewide vote for Trump,
but not much. The state legislate redrew the map, so
instead of electing twenty five Republicans, the new map is
expected to elect thirty Republicans to add five new Republicans. Now,
under that new map, it will increase. Assuming those thirty
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Republicans win, it would increase the percentage of Republicans from
sixty six percent to seventy nine percent. Now seventy nine
percent is a larger portion. How does that compare it
to Democrat states? California under their old map, eighty three
percent of the delegation is Democrat. Illinois eighty two percent,
Oregon eighty four percent, Washington State eighty percent, Maryland eighty
(29:37):
eight percent. Massachusetts there are nine congressional seats. You know
how many Republicans are elected out of Massachusetts?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
How many?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Zero goosey? One hundred percent of the Massachusetts delegation is Democrat. Connecticut,
same thing, one hundred percent. Texas went from sixty six
to seventy nine percent, still less than California. And what
did California do in response? Increased it from eighty three
percent to ninety two percent, dramatically jerrymandering its map. Now
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what happened next is, of course, there was a lawsuit.
There's always a lawsuit when this happens, and a federal
district court. It's a three judge court. So it's two
district judges at a Federal Court of Appeals judge, which
is a it's a weird statutory creation that exists in
redistricting litigation. That court just over a week ago struck
(30:31):
down the Texas map and it ordered that instead of
being under the new map that would likely add five
new Republicans, to go back to the old map that
would not add five new Republicans. If that order stays
in place, the likely impact of redistricting is the Democrats
retake the House. I mean it would flip the House.
It was a very consequential decision. This was a two
(30:52):
to one decision. It was authored by a federal district judge,
Jeff Brown, who was a Republican nominated by Trump, joined
by a Democrat district judge, and there was a descent
from Jerry Smith. Now who is Jerry Smith. Jerry Smith
is the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals judge that's on
this panel. I know Jerry Smith very well. He is
one of the two most longstanding, most well respected conservatives
(31:15):
on the Fifth Circuit. Jerry Smith and Edith Jones have
long been the conservative warriors on the Fifth Circuit. I
got to tell you, Jerry Smith wrote a descent in
this case. Ben, I've probably read a thousand descents in
my life. I've never read a descent like Jerry Smith's descent.
He just onloaded on the majority opinion. He just eviscerated
(31:39):
it as unprincipled, as political, as partisan, as wrong. That dissent.
I mean, you literally read it, and you ought to
google and read it because you've never read a judicial
opinion like this. Well, what happened on appeal is, initially
the appeal for a stay went up to Justice sam
Alito was the individual Circuit justice sitting over the Fifth Circuit,
(32:00):
and he stayed the opinion of the District Court. So
right now as we're talking, the District Court's stay will
not go into effect, which means, as of right now,
the new map stays in effect. Now we may get
a decision this week. It's possible the Supreme Court allows
the District Court opinion to go into effect, which would
mean the old map would stay at effect. My prediction
(32:23):
is this District Court opinion will be stayed. It will
be stayed through the election. We will stay with the
new map that the legislature has drawn, and I think
this District court opinion is going to be reversed on appeal.
It is a big, big deal because this outcome, the
Court's not throwing out the map that the legislature adopted,
(32:47):
could very well determine whether the House Representatives in twenty
twenty seven is Republican or Democrat. And so I'm very
glad the Supreme Court stayed this decision.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It really is a big one and another victory for
rule of law and getting rid of so many activists
that are trying to stop the way that the business
is supposed to work. And that's what Democrats have been
relying on for far too long. So it's nice to
see justice here prevail. Don't forget. We do this show Monday,
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Speaker 3 (33:25):
I will see you back here in a couple of days.
Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson
with it's signs to have you with us a Thanksgiving week,
and we've got a lot to cover on this show
today that you're not going to want to miss, including
a moment of clarity I think for the Republican Party
that deals with someone deciding I'm going to resign from Congress,
Senator your reaction to Margie Taylor Green saying I'm out.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well. Marjorie Taylor Green announced she's going to resign from
Congress in January. It's a big deal. She was a
major player of the House representatives. Her views I think
had gotten more and more extreme. President Trump had announced
he was withdrawing his support from her because she had
gotten so extreme. We're going to break that down. We're
going to talk about why she's stepping down. We're going
to talk about what it means. I think it's a
(00:43):
consequential moment in the House and it's a consequential moment
for the country. We're also going to talk about her
a really astonishing story, which is welfare fraud by Somali's
in Minnesota funneled millions of dollars of tax payer money
to the Islamic terrorist organization Al Shabab. It really is
a stunning, stunning story that's been reported and it shows
(01:08):
the really pernicious things that we're seeing unfolding in our country.
And finally, we're going to talk about Texas redistricting. Texas redistricting,
as everyone knows, the state of Texas redrew the map
to add five Republican House seats, a federal district court
struck that down, and then on appeal, the Supreme Court
has halted the decision of the federal district court. We're
(01:29):
going to talk about what's likely to happen in Texas
redistricting and what it means for control of the House
of Representatives in the midterms.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
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All right, Senator, so let's start with Margie Taylor Green.
(03:52):
I genuinely thought this was a great moment for conservatives,
for the conservative movement, for the Republican Party watching her
decide to resign. And the reason why I say that
is because it gave me hope that we are so
different than the Democratic Party. We police our own and
we call out those that are about actors, unlike the
(04:13):
Democratic Party that is not policed their party at all.
Now that you're witnessing socialists getting elected in two major
cities in this country, and radical leftists that have taken over,
and yet we still seem to have a moment of
clarity where I hold, on a second, this is not
what we believe. I found it incredibly encouraging your reaction.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, Ben, I think you make a good point if
you look about and this is something I've been talking
quite a bit about. Ten years ago on the Democrat Party,
we saw anti semitism, radical extreme anti semitism rising on
the Democrat Party, and Democrat leadership didn't do anything about it.
They basically look the other direction. They said, gosh, this
is a small fringe view, we don't need to worry
(04:54):
about it. It'll be fine. And in the decade that followed,
we have seen pro hamas consume the Democrat Party. Now
you and I have talked about, and I've been talking
publicly a lot about, I see the same thing potentially
starting to happen on the right. I've seen more anti
semitism in the last six months on the right that
I've seen in my entire life. And my hope is
(05:15):
the Republican Party doesn't make the mistakes that the Democrats
did that we say enough is enough. No, And I'll
tell you this is striking because if you look at
in Republicans and the House of Representatives. The vast majority
of elected Republicans in both the House and Senate are
passionately pro Israel. They're supporters of the US Israel alliance
(05:37):
and relationship. They understand the national security benefits of standing
with Israel. They understand that when Israel is killing Hamas
and hesbela terrorist, when Israel is taking out Iranian ier
GC terrorists, that they're making America safer. They're a handful
of House Republicans who become more and more vocal as
(05:57):
voices for being anti Israel. Marjorie Taylor Green was on
the front of that list. In fact, the leading to
House Republicans who had become vocal anti Israel voices were
Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates. And I do think
it's striking that Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates very
soon neither one of them is going to be in
the House. Matt Gates already resigned and Green announced that
(06:19):
she's going to resign in January. And I think that's
really that is a powerful statement. Yet, you ought to
ask yourself why didn't AOC resign, Why didn't ilhan Omar resign.
Why didn't Rashida Tali resign? Why didn't the radicals and
the Democrat Party resign? And it's because their leadership fundamentally
was weak. And I want to commend Donald Trump. If
(06:41):
there's one person who is most responsible for Marjorie Taylor
Green resigning, it is j Trump. Here's what he put
out on truth Social quote. I am withdrawing my support
and endorsement of quote unquote, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green of
the Great State of Georgia over the past few weeks,
despite my creating record achievements for our country, including a
total and complete victory on the shutdown, closed borders, low taxes,
(07:05):
no men and women's sports or transgender for everyone, ending DEI,
stopping Biden's record setting inflation, biggest regulation cuts in history,
stopping eight wars, rebuilding our military, being highly respected by
every country in the world as opposed to being the
laughingstock that we were just twelve months ago, having trillions
of dollars record setting invested in the USA, and having
(07:28):
created the hottest country anywhere in the world from being
a dead country just twelve months ago, and so much more.
All I see wacky Marjorie, do is complain? Complain? Complain?
It seemed to all begin when I sent her a
poll stating that she should not run for senator or governor.
She was at twelve percent and didn't have a chance unless,
(07:51):
of course, she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about
to get. Now, look, when Trump said that that he
was going to oppose her, it changed the dynas significantly,
And it changes so much that she put out a
statement this past week saying she's done. She's resigning in January.
She's withdrawing from the Congress. And listen, Marjorie Taylor Green.
(08:13):
She got elected five years ago. She's not been in
the House very long. She is a loud voice. She
used to be maybe the single loudest voice pro Trump,
and we saw her and it actually, I think it's
a cautionary tale about when you embrace anti Semitic views,
(08:34):
anti Israel views, you quickly start down a slippery slope.
Where she began attacking Donald Trump, she began attacking capitalism.
She began attacking much like Tucker Carlson attacking who America is.
She went on the View and had a love fest
with the left wing host on the views she was
(08:55):
arguing for expanding and extending the Obamacare subsidies. I mean,
it really was a good example that once you start
down that road, all of the rest of conservatism goes
out the window as well.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, it was a moment where I was genuinely proud
to be a conservative, also a Trump supporter, and I
loved the fact that President was this blunt about it.
Because if you don't have moral clarity on issues like
anti semitism, so goes your party. And we've seen what happens,
(09:30):
and the Democrats are a cautionary tale. The most radical
of the radicals in this country are now within the
Democratic Party, and many of them are leading the Democratic Party.
And I worry that we could go down that road
if we didn't start policing our own and making sure
especially those that become radical and anti Semites were not
police better. I think the other part about this is
(09:52):
not only is she going to be out of Congress,
but her voice is going to disappear, I believe, from
the conservative movement as well in a major way. And
that also is a consequence, whereas many times Democrats is
a complete opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I don't know that it'll disappear. I actually think
she may be similar to Matt Gates, where they both
will continue to espouse whackier and whackier views, views that
are more and more out of the mainstream of Republicans
and conservatives. But I do think it will be a
much smaller platform. And you know, Ben, I actually talked
(10:25):
to President Trump about it this weekend. He called me
Friday night and we spent probably fifteen twenty minutes on
the phone. We were talking about lots of different things,
but one of the things just as we were making
conversations about, I don't know, eleven o'clock at night Friday night,
and I said, miss President, were you surprised that Marjor
Taylor Green stepped down? And he sort of laughed and said, no, no,
(10:46):
I wasn't surprised at all. And he mentioned he said
he said she was mad because he said she would
call him once twice, three times a week and he
wasn't calling her back all the time. And you know,
he said, look, I've got fifty three Senate Republicublicans, I've
got two hundred and nineteen House Republicans. I've got a
couple one hundred leaders of countries across the world, and
(11:07):
I sort of laughed. I said, yeah, look, you're a
very very busy man. And to be honest, I don't
call Trump all that off. And I probably talked to Trump,
I don't know, every two weeks, i'd say on average,
but I try not to. Some of my colleagues call
him a lot. And you know, I told him, I said, look,
you're a busy man. I try not to bother you,
just to like call, to tug on your shirts, leave
(11:30):
and say, you know, high, high high, Like I try
to call when I've got a purpose, I've got an objective,
I've got a decision that I think is important, something
we need to get done. But it was interesting. He
said she was calling him several times a week and
it was just too much. And you know, I think
his withdrawing his support from her is what caused her
to drop out. And I'm glad of that. I mean,
(11:52):
I do think it shows Republicans being willing to say
we're not going to embrace the radicals, and in a
way that it's hard to think of a time the
Democrats have done that in modern history.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
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a story that I hope everyone listening will actually share
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(14:34):
stories for me that I am hoping we will be
able to make it go viral. There are so many
people that voted for President Trump because they wanted there
to be clarity on waste fraud and abuse in our government.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's what DOGE was created around.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And the amount of waste fraud abuse of our tax
dollars has become absolutely massive. Now we're seeing some states
be very proactive and and fighting this. We've seen local
governments where it's happening, it's trickling down.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think that's also incredible.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But there is a story that broke that is should
make every American angry, and that is this story of
the largest funder of Al Shabab turns out to be
an Al Shabab is a terist organization, a smalling terrists
organization is actually the Minnesota taxpayers. Now that may just
(15:27):
seem like a weird headline to people, but what we're
witnessing is tax dours funneling directly to the Islamic Terrasts organization,
and it's been going on at numbers that were clearly
warning signs when Joe Biden was president in the amount
of funds that were leaving Minnesota, and no one seemed
about an eye or no one seemed to care that
(15:50):
this was happening. Break it down for everybody that doesn't
know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, this is a story that's really at the intersection
of two issues that matter enormously. Number one is wait
for waste, fraud and abuse in government, and we see
that at the federal government, we see that at the
state level, particularly in big blue states. But secondly, the
rise of radical Islam in America, and it's dangerous, it
is threatening our liberty, and it is spreading. It's spreading
(16:14):
often with the enthusiastic cheerleading of Democrat elected officials. This
story is right at the intersection of both of them.
And so the City Journal reported I'm just going to
read a portion of this article because it really is
it's a stunning report, and it begins. The largest funder
of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer. How some of
the state's welfare funds ended up in the hands of
(16:35):
a terror group. Minnesota is drowning and fraud. Billions in
taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor
Tim Waltz alone. Of course, Tim Waltz was Kamala Harris's
nominated BVP Democrat. State officials overseeing one of the most
generous welfare regimes in the country are asleep at the switch,
and the media, duty bound by progressive pietes, refuse to
(16:59):
connect the dots. In many cases, the fraud has allegedly
been perpetrated by members of the Minnesota sizable Somali community.
Federal counter terrorism support sources confirm that millions of dollars
millions in stolen funds had been sent back to Somalia,
where they ultimately landed in the hands of the terror
group Al Schebab. One confidential source put it quote, the
(17:22):
largest funder of al Chebab is the Minnesota taxpayer. Our
investigation shows what happens when a tribal mindset meets a
bleeding heart bureaucracy. When imported clan loyalties collide with a
political class too timid to offend, and when accusations of
racism are cynically deployed to shield criminal behavior, the predictable
(17:43):
result is graft, with taxpayers left to foot the bill.
If you were designed to design a welfare program to
facilitate fraud, it would probably look a lot like Minnesota's
Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services Program. The HHS program, the first
of its kind in the country, was launched with the
noble goal to help seniors, addicts that disabled in the
mentally ill secure housing. It was designed with quote low
(18:06):
barriers to entry and quote minimal requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless,
before the program went live in twenty twenty, officials pegged
its annual estimated price tag at two point six million dollars.
Cost quickly spiraled out of control. In twenty twenty one,
the program paid out more than twenty one million dollars.
By the way, it was projected to be two point
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six million. In the following year, annual costs shot up
to forty two million, then seventy four million, then one
hundred and four million. On August first, Minnesota's Department of
Human Services moved to scrap the HHS program, noting that
payment to seventy seven housing stabilization providers had terminated this
year due to credible allegations of fraud. Joe Thompson, then
(18:49):
the acting US Attorney for the District of Minnesota, when
even further saying the vast majority let me repeat that
the vast majority of the HHS program was fraudulent. On
September eighteenth, Thompson announced criminal indictments for HHS fraud against
Maktar Hassan, Aiden, Mustafa Daibe, by Lee, Khalid, Ahmed daib
(19:11):
Ab de Fita, Mohammed Mohammad, Christopher Adisoli Falat. By the way, Ben,
you try to go through those names, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm going to pass on that. Great job. I give
you a B plus on that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Okay, six of whom, according to the US Attorney's office,
are members of Minnesota Somali community. Thompson made clear this
is the first round of charges for HSS fraud that
his office will be prosecuting most of these cases. Unlike
a lot of Medicare fraud, medicaid fraud nationally aren't just
overbilling Thompson said to press conference announcing the indictments. These
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are often just purely fictitious companies solely created to defraud
the system, and that's unique in the extent to which
we have that here in Minnesota. Thompson said, many of
the firms enrolled in the program operated out of dilapidated
storefronts or run down office buildings. The perpetrators often targeted
people recently released from rehab, signed them up for Medicaid
(20:06):
services they had no intention of providing. He noted many
of the owners of companies engaged in HHS fraud had
other companies through which they built other Medicaid programs, such
as the EIDBI Autism program, the Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health
Services Program, the Integrated Community Services Program, the Community Access
for Disability Inclusion Program PCA Services, and other Medicaid waivers services.
(20:32):
What we see are schemes stacked upon schemes, draining resources
meant for those most in needs. It feels never ending.
I have spent my career as a fraud prosecutor, and
the depth of the fraud in Minnesota takes my breath away.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You read that and you just think about how much
money this is that not only was stolen from the taxpayers,
and they go into how much it kept growing and
growing and growing these programs. But it's obvious that people
knew there was fraud. Then you find out it's going
to a terrorist organization, and so we're funding the terrorist organization.
(21:11):
How the hell do people not go to jail for this?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well they are a number of people are being prosecuted.
But you know what is striking is not just was
their massive fraud, but the massive fraud was funding terrorism.
Here's what the City Journal continues saying. Perhaps the most
surprising aspect of the Somali fraud story is the scale,
with total costs running into the billions of taxpayer dollars.
(21:34):
That raises the question what happened to all that money?
The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums and remittances
or money transfers from Minnesota to Somalia, according to reports,
and estimated forty percent of households in Somalia get remittances
from abroad. In twenty twenty three alone, the Somali diaspora
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sent back one point seven billion dollars, more than the
Somali government's budget for that year. Our investigation reveals for
the first time that some of this money has been
directed to an even more troubling destination, the al Qaeda
linked Islamic terror group Al Schebab. According to multiple law
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enforcement sources, Minnesota's Somali community has sent untold millions through
a network of Hualas, informal clan based money traders that
have wound up in the coffers of Al Schebab. According
to Glenn Kerns, a retired Seattle Police Department detective who
spent fourteen years on a federal Joint terrorism task force,
(22:38):
the Somalis ran a sophisticated money network spanning from Seattle
to Minneapolis, and we're routing significant amounts of cash on
commercial flights from the Seattle airport to the Juala networks
in Somalia. One of these networks, Kerns discovered, sent twenty
million dollars abroad in a single year. So this is
money that's coming from the Minnesota taxpayers. It is going
(23:02):
through the Somalia Somali community in Minnesota back to Somalia
on the order of magnitude of one point seven billion
dollars a year, and millions of those dollars were flowing
directly to al Shabab and al Kaita linked major terrorist organization,
that this is tragic, it is shocking. And by the way,
(23:23):
I'm curious, have you seen it on CNN, no, NBCCBS.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Nope, none of them, none of them touching.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It, MSNBC, no, Washington Post, New York Times, Nope. You
would think that would be news.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I also look at the amount of money and how
quickly it grew. That's something else that I do think
is interesting. Here is how I mean you want to
talk about warning signs center, there was clear warning signs,
like very very clear warning signs that this was happening,
and yet no one in government seemed to stop paw
(24:00):
or ask a question. That part also to me is
just like is it always unlimited funds?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Is that how it's now? In government?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And whatever you start just keep making it grow and
double and trip win size year after year after year
and spending and and no one's like, hold on a second,
this doesn't add up this many kids with autism that
doesn't seem normal. Well, how much it went doubled from
last year the year before the year before that. I mean,
there's a clear line here of like red flags that
no one seemed.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
To care about well.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And it's worth remembering Tim Waltz is not someone at
the fringe of the Democrat Party. Tim Waltz is who
Kamala Harris thought should be vice President of the United States.
Presumably Kamala thought that she should he should succeed her
and become the President of the United States. And Tim
Waltz like like many Democrats, but what Waltzes is worse
than many of them just look the other way, just
(24:51):
turned a blind eye. And one combination, it's a combination
of a number of factors. One piece of it is
just the left wing view that the more money you're
giving way and welfare the better, and so it doesn't
matter how much it grows. If you're giving a million
dollars this year, they wanted to be two million, then four,
then six, then eight and twelve. They want it to
grow without any any consideration about number one, bankrupting the
(25:15):
state and the taxpayers. But number two about the impact
of spending all that money trapping people in dependency. But
a second component of it, it's not just dependency. Dependency
assumes someone's actually getting well for payments. It is also
bleatant fraud and there is unfortunately a network of corruption
where many of those engage in fraud are also writing
(25:39):
checks to elect Democrats. And if you look at the
Somali community in Minnesota, it is a major voting network
that votes for Democrats in Minnesota. And so at the
end of the day, the Democrats, when it comes to
buying votes, shoveling this cash into this maw of fraud,
even though the taxpayers were being robbed and the money
(26:00):
was going to a radical Islamic terrorist organization. If you're
a Democrat, it made political sense on some level because
you got money and you got votes. And it is
astonishing that there's not do you know a single Democrat
denouncing this. No, I mean that's a striking thing.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, that's why I love doing the show, because it's
we give you this. And then, as I said earlier,
I'll say it again. I genuinely hope that everyone that's
listening will grab this put it on their social media
because I think it's really important that people.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's why this podcast is valuable.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, there, no doubt about it.
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move to this other story and it's an update, but
(27:38):
it's a victory update and it deals with Texas redistricting.
It's set off a firefight with California, Gavin Newsom getting
involved in them doing some just unbelievable jerrymandering of the
map out in California. They claimed it was in retaliation
for what Texas was doing. Then Democrats went after Texas
(27:58):
and try to stop it. And now we have Justice Alito,
who is involved at the Spring Court level. Give this
update about the Texas redistricting fight.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, as everyone knows, President Trump has asked state legislatures
Republican legislatures to redraw the map to elect more Republicans
to the House. A significant reason for that is that
there is right now an imbalance. Democrats have gerrymandered the
living daylights out of blue state. So blue states send
an overwhelming majority of their delegation to be Democrats despite
(28:31):
the votes of their citizens. And let me give you
some specific numbers. So Texas right now has thirty eight
congressional seats. Right now, Republicans have twenty five of those,
Democrats have thirteen. That means the percentage of Republicans in
the delegation today is right about sixty six percent. Now,
about fifty six percent of the state voted voted for Trump,
(28:52):
a little more than fifty six percent, so the current
delegation is slightly more than the statewide vote for Trump,
but not much. The state legislate redrew the map, so
instead of electing twenty five Republicans, the new map is
expected to elect thirty Republicans to add five new Republicans. Now,
under that new map, it will increase. Assuming those thirty
(29:14):
Republicans win, it would increase the percentage of Republicans from
sixty six percent to seventy nine percent. Now seventy nine
percent is a larger portion. How does that compare it
to Democrat states? California under their old map, eighty three
percent of the delegation is Democrat. Illinois eighty two percent,
Oregon eighty four percent, Washington State eighty percent, Maryland eighty
(29:37):
eight percent. Massachusetts there are nine congressional seats. You know
how many Republicans are elected out of Massachusetts?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
How many?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Zero goosey? One hundred percent of the Massachusetts delegation is Democrat. Connecticut,
same thing, one hundred percent. Texas went from sixty six
to seventy nine percent, still less than California. And what
did California do in response? Increased it from eighty three
percent to ninety two percent, dramatically jerrymandering its map. Now
(30:11):
what happened next is, of course, there was a lawsuit.
There's always a lawsuit when this happens, and a federal
district court. It's a three judge court. So it's two
district judges at a Federal Court of Appeals judge, which
is a it's a weird statutory creation that exists in
redistricting litigation. That court just over a week ago struck
(30:31):
down the Texas map and it ordered that instead of
being under the new map that would likely add five
new Republicans, to go back to the old map that
would not add five new Republicans. If that order stays
in place, the likely impact of redistricting is the Democrats
retake the House. I mean it would flip the House.
It was a very consequential decision. This was a two
(30:52):
to one decision. It was authored by a federal district judge,
Jeff Brown, who was a Republican nominated by Trump, joined
by a Democrat district judge, and there was a descent
from Jerry Smith. Now who is Jerry Smith. Jerry Smith
is the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals judge that's on
this panel. I know Jerry Smith very well. He is
one of the two most longstanding, most well respected conservatives
(31:15):
on the Fifth Circuit. Jerry Smith and Edith Jones have
long been the conservative warriors on the Fifth Circuit. I
got to tell you, Jerry Smith wrote a descent in
this case. Ben, I've probably read a thousand descents in
my life. I've never read a descent like Jerry Smith's descent.
He just onloaded on the majority opinion. He just eviscerated
(31:39):
it as unprincipled, as political, as partisan, as wrong. That dissent.
I mean, you literally read it, and you ought to
google and read it because you've never read a judicial
opinion like this. Well, what happened on appeal is, initially
the appeal for a stay went up to Justice sam
Alito was the individual Circuit justice sitting over the Fifth Circuit,
(32:00):
and he stayed the opinion of the District Court. So
right now as we're talking, the District Court's stay will
not go into effect, which means, as of right now,
the new map stays in effect. Now we may get
a decision this week. It's possible the Supreme Court allows
the District Court opinion to go into effect, which would
mean the old map would stay at effect. My prediction
(32:23):
is this District Court opinion will be stayed. It will
be stayed through the election. We will stay with the
new map that the legislature has drawn, and I think
this District court opinion is going to be reversed on appeal.
It is a big, big deal because this outcome, the
Court's not throwing out the map that the legislature adopted,
(32:47):
could very well determine whether the House Representatives in twenty
twenty seven is Republican or Democrat. And so I'm very
glad the Supreme Court stayed this decision.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It really is a big one and another victory for
rule of law and getting rid of so many activists
that are trying to stop the way that the business
is supposed to work. And that's what Democrats have been
relying on for far too long. So it's nice to
see justice here prevail. Don't forget. We do this show Monday,
Wednesday and Friday. Hit that subscriber auto download button wherever
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Speaker 3 (33:25):
I will see you back here in a couple of days.
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