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October 1, 2025 34 mins
  • Cause of Shutdown:

    • Shutdown occurred after Congress failed to pass funding past September 30.

    • Cruz argues Democrats deliberately blocked a CR to appease their progressive base.

  • Senate Dynamics:

    • A CR passed the House but failed in the Senate, receiving 55 votes instead of the required 60.

    • Three Democrats (Fetterman, Cortez Masto, Angus King) voted with Republicans to keep government open.

  • Partisan Framing:

    • Democrats are motivated by hatred of Trump and internal party pressures.

    • Schumer is depicted as fearing a primary challenge from AOC and pandering to the left wing.

  • Policy Disputes:

    • Republicans claim Democrats demanded benefits such as free healthcare for undocumented immigrants and removal of work requirements for welfare.

    • The conversation suggests these were “unrealistic demands” meant only as political theater.

  • Impact of Shutdown:

    • Essential services (military, law enforcement, FAA) continue, but workers go unpaid temporarily.

    • Nonessential services like national parks and Smithsonian museums shut down.

  • Political Messaging:

    • Cruz and the host argue this is the “Schumer shutdown,” not a bipartisan failure.

    • They highlight Democrat statements from past years criticizing shutdown tactics, suggesting hypocrisy.

    • WATCH WH Hakeem Jeffries VIDEO HERE
  • Strategic Angle:

    • The Trump administration is said to plan permanent layoffs (“reduction in force”) of federal bureaucrats during the shutdown, targeting those seen as left-leaning.

    • This is framed as a strategic opportunity to reshape the federal workforce.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is Verdical Center, Ted Cruz, it is nice
to have you with us. It is official. Twelve oh
one am. The United States government is shut down. The
Democrats they did it on purpose. Apparently it was their plan.
And the question is for how long have they been
planning on doing this. This is going to be a
very interesting show. This all revolves around the Senate. That

(00:25):
is something that maybe some people don't realize. Everything's come
out of the House. We're now to the Senate side
of things, and I want you to explain what it
was like in the hours leading up to this shutdown.
Was there ever a chance in hell that the government
wasn't going to shut down?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, there was never a chance. It is just after midnight,
so the government is shut down just for a few minutes.
But I think the government shutdown is going to last
at the minimum of days, it may be weeks, and
it may even be longer. Really, yes, this could extend

(01:01):
for a significant period of time. And understand this is
the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump. So I
got to say we had the vote tonight. There was
no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome out of one hundred
senators all of us knew the outcome. The vote was
fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat senators voted

(01:25):
to keep the government open.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
You have a pretty big deal, right, I mean, did
you think those three were going to go?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Where?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Did you think it was going to be a unanimous vote?
I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, Look Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
to keep the government open, Cortes Master voter to keep
the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
to forty five. Now why did the government shut down? Look,
the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot

(01:59):
continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
Congress has the power of the purse, so Congress appropriates
the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
first to September thirtieth.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
YEP.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding. One is

(02:38):
an appropriation and so they're typically in a good year.
They are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind
of major segment of government. For a number of years,
the appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way
that government authorization occurs is through what are called crs.
CR is short for continue resolution. A continue resolution is

(03:02):
essentially Congress saying what we are spending now, we can
continue continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR,
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
So if the Senate had passed it.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh right. Let's be clear. When you say a clean CR,
that means no political shananigans in it. It's literally saying,
we're taking the twenty five budget year and we're going
to say the exact same amount we spent in August,
we're going to spend September, October, November until we get
the new budget. There is no port barrel extras, there's

(03:41):
no political sheanigan against from either side.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, yes, yes, Okay, a clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've

(04:08):
got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five. We got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes

(04:29):
to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
That was on purpose. And I want to pause just
for a second to go back to CR historically. Let's
just go back to Biden's time in office, when you
guys were in the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you
guys did this more than a dozen times, where you
can't and say, hey, thirteen times, all right, So thirteen

(04:54):
different times y'all came together and said we're gonna spend
exactly what we spent yesterday to keep the government open,
so we avoid a government shut down. And you put
the American people ahead of politics. And that is a
bipartisan moment, right, They had to have some of your votes.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans joined with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, Okay,
let's keep the government going, a very reasonable and very

(05:32):
common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
months ago, the left wing rose up against him. And
you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's

(05:54):
one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
he sees aoc running up behind him, and he is
terrified he's gonna lose his job. So listen, Schumer knows
this is not gonna work. He knows this is failures.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump, and they
want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because rar that's what we're watching now.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan? Was this weeks ago? Months ago? Was
this when they had the last years? I got the
next time it comes up, I have no choice. I
got to shut down the government to flex my muscles.
And also there is a real concern by him that
AOC is going to run against him, primary him in
the Senate. By the way, that is after the next

(06:56):
president's election cycle? Was that and that isn't he up
two years after? Are not mistaken?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So be.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
And to be clear, I predicted on this podcast the
inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President campaign
is Chuck Schumer. Because he is desperate for AOC not
to primary him. He's gonna say, Alexandra, you are such
a big deal, you were so important. Really, the Senate's
too small for you. Why do you want to bother

(07:24):
being in the Senate. You should be in the White House.
Schumer is going to be all in on that, but
he is living with absolute PTSD. He is traumatized. He
sees left wing antifa crazies coming around on every side,
and so from his end, this shutdown is necessary politically. Now,

(07:48):
what did the Democrats demand? They demanded a lot of things.
You know what the number one demand was, what's that?
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
By the way, I mean when you think about at
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your number one thing. Because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste for aunt of abuse dogs
was a big part of it. And also making sure
that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. Like no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you

(08:20):
want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
another thing, And they're like, no, no, no, we buy gal.
You better get minded people that are just straight up lazy,
that aren't that that have the ability to work, but
you got to pay them to stay home.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, a huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
able to sit at home and get government checks. But
did you see the AI video of the White House
put out?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I want you, I want I want to play this
for everyone. Okay, this is fake So all the nattering nabobs,
this is fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical that
the White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer and
a King Jeffreys explaining what this shutdown is all about.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now, before we get to that, I want to talk
to you about my friends over at Berna. If you've
ever listened to the show before, you know I'm a
big advocate for the Second Amendment and I've shared on
numerous occasions how carrying a firearm literally saved my life
from a gang related attack. But many of you out
there may not feel comfortable carrying a firearm. Maybe you
have a loved one that's just not comfortable. They need
a way to protect themselves, and that's why I want

(09:35):
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helped save lives or could have been the best option
for protection. Josh, this next one is incredibly sad, and

(09:57):
I want you to talk about a father that involved
with a shooting.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Absolutely so. In this particular case, sixteen year old girl
was coming home late one night, about three am in
the morning, entering through the garage. Unfortunately, the father, here's
a noise in the garage, grabs his gun, goes out there.
He's a dark figure walking through the garage, points that
gun fires only that point, realizing that he had just
killed his sixteen year old daughter. This is an illustration

(10:23):
of where guns in homes, if not used properly, can
have dire dire consequences. In this case, one bullet killed
two lives and the lives of many others in that family.
It was incredibly tragic and unfortunately we see this situation
dozens and dozens of times every year throughout the US.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, That's one of the questions that I think some
people ask us, like, is this just a one off
occurrence that would never happen to me? Unfortunately, as you mentioned,
this happens a lot more often than people realize.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Absolutely. Unfortunately, people think that the best tool and the
only tool for home defense is a gun, and they
get a gun, they never train with it, they never
train the tactics that requires, they don't do the other
things like flashlights and all the other things that are
necessary to make sure that they can use that gun properly.
And then that's when you have something like this happens
with a burna. If the same thing had happened you
put a burner in his hands, his daughter would be

(11:11):
really mad. After she was done coughing for about forty
five minutes, but still alive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
If you want to get more information on how BERNA
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com again, burna by RNA dot com. All right, so center,
here is that audio. Yes, as you mentioned earlier, this
is a spoof. It is like Saturday Night Live, except

(11:37):
it's coming from President Donald Trump's account, which is the
best part about it. Take a listen to this. Look, guys,
there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
We have no voters left because of all of our
woke trans bullsh Not even black people want to vote
for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need
new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens
free healthcare here, we might be able to get them
on our side so they can vote for us. They
can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just

(12:08):
a bunch of woke pieces of ship, you know, at
least for a while until they learn English and they
realize they hate us too.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spoof from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at
it we put up on social media, the videos and
Importphreeze has got a really nice Hannibar mustache and a
sombrero on.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So look, pause for a second and realize that was
released by the White House. That was released by the
President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
when the president has put that out?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You put it?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, all the publican senators
have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
at the White House. And so Thune was giving us
a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,

(13:15):
the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
I raised my hand. I question. I said, John was
a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And what did he say?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
He just laughed. But look and everyone cracked up. But
that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
federal government because they want free health care for every
illegal alien in America.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, you want to.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Talk about, like on every issue that's eighty twenty or
even ninety ten, they're on the twenty or the ten side.
The American people do not support. If you want to
have a referendum in this country, should we give illegals
free health care? Wow, that will be overwhelming. But here's
the secret. This shutdown is not actually about free health

(14:08):
care for illegals. That's what the Democrats have hung their
hat on because they got to say they want.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So they gotta say something, right, This is.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
All about just we hate Donald Trump and it is
Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means the end
of this. Okay, there's no universe in which Chuck Schumer
will get President Trump to agree to let's give free
health care to illegals.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, they're entering. There's no universe in which Republicans in
Congress are going to say, hey, that's a great idea,
let's give free health care to every illegal. Like that's
you might as well ask for Area fifty one, like
to release the Martians and let them take over the country. Yeah,
that is as likely to happen as free health care
for illegals from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is

(15:01):
not about getting what they're demanding. This is about how
long do they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah and so and the radical base is what has
put them in this scenario. Right, I guess do you
actually believe. And let's go back to the history of
the Senate here. I don't believe that Chuck Schumer actually
wanted to shut down the government. No, No, I think
he was forced to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
job if the government was it.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Was self preservation.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
In other words, this is weird. Chuck Schumer is being
held hostage by the Marxist communists and socialists in his party,
which they did not police and they allowed to take
over their party. Then he's now holding the American people
hostage with a government shut down, which brings me the
big question. Even when we've had shutdowns in the past,
there has been some agreement center like, hey, certain people

(15:58):
should deserve to get paid, those that are in the military,
those badges, like the list is not that long, but
the essential important people that deserve to get a paycheck.
We don't screw with them when they're protecting to fing
this country, can you guys, at least was there an
agreement to pay them? Really? Okay, so walk us through that,
because I'm assuming that came up at lunch.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution, Members of Congress,
our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter and I've done
this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,

(16:42):
don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over. I'll get
but it's deferred.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
But a lot of I don't understand that the long
which if I think just asinine, and I have family
members work in the federal government, and they're like, the
dumb part about this that I think a lot of
Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss a
paycheck in your calendar year. You just miss a month

(17:18):
and then you get it back data, you get it
back the next time whenever the government does open back up.
And so I know people that are in the FA
for example, and they're like, dude, we just plan our
vacations like great trips around shutdowns because we know we're
still getting paid. We save not everybody can do that.
But like they've almost pre planned for this bonus vacation
and they're gonna get paid back.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
number one, government shutdown as a misnomer. More than eighty
percent of the government will continue to operate. So the
basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going. So
the military, our activity and military defending the nation against

(18:01):
bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals, that
keeps going. The border patrol and ice that keeps going.
The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two

(18:24):
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government. Nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Then.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Remember Knute Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting with
Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for a number
of weeks, and I remember there was a headline that
said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of their
employees is a essentral and seventy percent is non essential.
I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
benchline all those non essential that's seventy percent they ought

(19:10):
to be done. But what that means, so what will
be shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be
shut down. So I gotta say, if you were planning
to take your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm
I'm sorry to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will
be closed. If you were coming to d C to

(19:30):
tour our nation's capitally, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian,
go to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian
will be shut down. If you look at things like
the National Institute of Health, like research on cancer, much
of that will be shut down.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
All across that non essential. When people are going to
say that seems insane, Why wouldn't we fix that to
make sure when we have these shenanigans happen that that's
not affected.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
And I think this shutdown will extend I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
So is this polling the I mean, how do you
decide when you won or you lost if you're Schumer,
Because this is not about the country hating Schumer. This
is only about New York. I'm protecting a seat from AOC.
So in essence, you don't care how many people hate
you in the country. It's only a New York thing,
is that. I mean, well, they do polling. I mean

(20:34):
this is weird.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I got to say, the Democrats are losing the
messaging battle. It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown.
There was actually exchange right before we had the vote
on the CR to keep the government open, and this
is a clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is
just keep the lights.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
On status quo.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Schumer stood up and was speaking, and all the Senators
or most of us, were standing on the Senate floor,
and Schumer said, look, there's been reference to polling, but
the polling has been biased. It's been right wing polling,
for example, the New York Times. And I got to
tell you, I and every other Republican we just started

(21:20):
cracking up, laughing, and you could see Schumer he actually
turned red, he looked sheepish because he just said on
the Senate floor that the New York Times was a
biased right wing poll.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
saw Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like
that's weak. And that's because the New York Times did
a poll if the Democrats don't get everything they want,
should they shut the government down? And sixty five percent
of Americans said no, don't shut the government down. It
was a small percentage. It was just over twenty percent

(21:58):
of Americans that said, yeah, shut the government down. So
that's who the Democrats are responding to. But they've got
Schumer's message is the New York Times is a right
wing mouthpiece, and how dare you tell the American people
that we the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This
is headed to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican knows

(22:20):
that every Democrat knows that is there an outcome where
Republicans say, okay, great, let's fund healthcare free illegals. No,
the Democrats will give in. Three Democrats voted to fund
the government. What will happen is the government is shut down.
People are going to get ticked off, people are gonna
want to like use by the way, things like passport

(22:43):
services will be greatly reduced. All sorts of government. Now listen.
The military keeps going, law enforcement keep going, Social Security
keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid keeps going, an awful
lot of government keeps going. But the lack of government
being open will be a serious function. At some point
we will see seven or eight Democrats say enough is enough,

(23:05):
reopen the government. That will happen. But let me tell
you a huge piece that is an X factor in this,
which is Russ Vote, who is the head of OMB,
the Office of Management and Budget works for the White House.
He put out a memo a week ago that said,
if there is a government shutdown, we are going to

(23:28):
lay off federal workers. We're not going to give them
a furlough.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Is hold on.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive ye warning you do this and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best movies I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because there a lot of people are
gonna get lose their jobs and that's going to be

(23:53):
on you guys for allowing it to happen. Right, So
explain all that.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend's strong conservative. He's
a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we
are going to react to that by the White Houses
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink

(24:20):
slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
you are going to see in the next few days,
you are going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired.
You're going to see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired.

(24:42):
You're going to see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And
within a couple of days we're going to see Democrat senators.
They're going to be in their lunches screaming at each
other because this is frankly an excuse for the Trump
administration to do what they wanted to do anyway, which
is get rid of left wing bureaucrats. But they now

(25:02):
have an incredible justification, which is, hey, Congress chose not
to fund them, so instead of giving them a paid vacation,
stay home several weeks and then we'll pay you back
pay and come back to your job. They're gonna even
pick slip and say you're done. You no longer have
a job. And I think that is going to ratchet
up the pressure on Democrats massively.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
could they be? And how much research has been done
behind the scenes to get rid of a lot of
these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting to
get rid of, that the presidents want to get rid of,
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
how I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil

(25:47):
kind of like doage did. Let's find the people we
want to get rid of, and this is our chance
to do it, and and and by the way, once
it's done, like it's not like he got one from
their jobs back, like it's done.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
fired tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
a groomsm in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
I said, okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
House directs us to do that, we do that. We're

(26:34):
going to see I think hundreds, if not thousands of
left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days. I
think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
And by the way, we're not going to fire people
that are critical for the priorities you and I care about.
So we're not going to see border patrol agents who
are securing the border fired. We're not going to see

(26:56):
ice agents who are deporting gang bangers fired. We're not
going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles, We're
not going to see them fired. We're not going to
see soldiers and sailors at airmen and marines who are
keeping this nation safe. We're not going to see them fired.
We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting down factories,

(27:17):
who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical left wing agendas.
They're going to be the ones fired, and ultimately the
Democrats are going to cave. The only question is how
long Schumer wants to go through this charade before he gives.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
In, which brings me my final question, that is the
media does seem to be covering this a little bit
more with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today
there was a viral clip that is the tables have
been turned. Democrats are now literally under fire for a
clip that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the
same ones they're accused of using right now. And here's

(27:57):
what it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December
of twenty eight team Donald Trump's President Chuck schimern An's
posy in the Oval Office listen.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
We do not want to shut down the government because
you can me say something, mister President of North Dakota.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
And the most unfortunate, and we came in here in
good faith and we're entering into this kind of a
discussion in.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
The public.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Transparency.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not certipulating to.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
A set of facts.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean, you listen to that one, they're like, we're
not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
put out a very interesting yes video montage reminding people
the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
the Democrats Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
is and what he said to remind the people about
Democrats in their own words, it is not.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
If the government shuts down, it will be average Americas
who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Families will be hurt, farmers will be hurt. It's the
service members who will work without a paycheck.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
I mean, it's the firefighters who will be furlough this
shut down.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You know who's going to feel the pain. You know
who it hurts you everyday, people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans,
working families, hungering kids.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Y'all Democratic signaling that they're ready for fight this time.
Sumer told the Associated Press, Well, things have changed.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
It is not normal to shut down the government when
we don't get.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
What we want. I mean, I love them using AOC's words,
I feel like the media has changed a little bit.
Here your thoughts on.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
That, Well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And I
got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor,

(30:17):
so I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
the reporters were circling, and their talking point that they
really wanted to press is they said, Okay, cruise. In
twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you, Ted Cruz

(30:38):
forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are
doing now? And I just started laughing at them, and
I said, look, number one, in twenty thirteen, when I
did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor, I
was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American citizens
whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed. And they had skyrocketed because

(31:00):
Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster. It
caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It made
the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions of
ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by the way,
I was also fighting for it at a time when
the House of Representatives that was Republican had voted to

(31:23):
fund the federal government, fund the entirety of the federal government,
but not fund Obamacare, so not fund the law that
was causing damage to American citizens. And I said, here,
what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting down the federal
government not to help American citizens who are getting hurt,
but he's shutting down the federal government in order to

(31:44):
help millions of illegal aliens and give them free health care.
And he's willing to shut down your federal government to
give free health care to illegals, and that fundamentally there's
a hypocrisy to it. And I also said, said, you know,
the reporters were like, isn't it the same? And I said, listen,
let me be clear. In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck

(32:09):
Schumer who shut the government down. Then I was trying
to fund the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare,
and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut
it all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
And I told the reporters we had like fifty reporters
standing outside the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of
you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on

(32:30):
me because you're all left wing hacks. Yeah, today, all
of you are still left wing hacks. You agree with
the Democrats. But the facts are so overwhelming. It is
Chuck Schumer and the Democrats who are shutting the government
down that even you dishonest liars are reporting. This is
the Schumer shutdown because the House has funded the government

(32:54):
exactly the status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow.
It is the Democrats who said let's shut it down,
and I think at the end of the day they're
going to lose that battle. But this is what you
got to ask yourself, is how long do the Democrats
have to perform for their crazy left wing activists before

(33:16):
they allow the government.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
To reopen until the poll tells them otherwise. Is my guess.
It's gonna be interesting. I have a feeling you're right,
we're gonna be talking about this for but but you know.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What that they're not gonna trust. They're not going to
trust the polls from that right wing mouthpiece and in
the New York Times. But but but but maybe I
don't know. When Mother Jones and and you know, Communist
Party of America as a poll that shows they're losing,
maybe then they'll give up.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Maybe maybe then we're gonna cover it all. Don't forget.
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