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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. It's verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator, you had one
heck of a week in New York. I'm not sure
that they have come down from the high of seeing
you there at the Yankees game. So let's just start
with that before we even get to the view and
your book. You went to the game and the world
freaked out. I had the most ridiculous fund over the

(00:23):
last couple of days. So it starts off. I go
to Game four of the Alcs Astro's Yankees. I go
with a great friend of mine. We get seats right
behind home plate, directly behind home plate. Now, I'm a
diehard Astro's guy. I grew up as a kid. My

(00:45):
parents we had we had season tickets to the Astros
when I was a kid at the old stadium at
the at the astrodame a long time ago. So I'm
behind home plate and listen if you're going, of course
you dress and you and I went to game two
of the Alcs together. Oh yeah, thank you, by the

(01:05):
way for that to invite that was a black That
was awesome. We won that, but then again, we won
game one, we won Game two, we won Game three.
So game four is the frigging elimination game. So I
flew to New York. I'm sitting behind home played. Of
course I'm wearing bright orange my Astros shirt. Like you
either go down and you like root for the home

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team and screw them. And so that's where I was.
And listen, I gotta admit, going in, We're like, okay,
Yankee Stadium. I've never been to Yankee Stadium. You never have,
no never, And for anyone that's a baseball truiss like
Yankee Stadium and Yankee Stadium into discussion. Yeah, it's the
bucket list. And the Yankees are a dangerous team. I'll confess.
Actually going in, I was not super optimistic. I thought

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we were going to beat the Yankees, but I thought
they're too good a team for us to sweep. I
thought we'd beat them in five or six. I thought
that they'll pull out game four, which is okay. But
went in and it was. It was awesome. So everybody
in the news acted like that you walked in and

(02:09):
you're Satan right reincarnated. You show up. That's not actually true,
Like it is the very definition of fake news. So
I didn't know what the reaction is. I have to
admit I sat down with my body and I'm like, okay,
I'm going to Yankee Stadium. I'm celebrating what hopefully is
a sweep. Yeah, they're gonna be pissed. And so I'm like,

(02:30):
all right, is some guy gonna like throw a beer
on me? As some guy gonna walk up and punch
me in the face, Like what's gonna happ prepare? Yeah,
Like I'm like, all right, I get it. But I
have to say I was blown away. I probably took
one hundred and fifty pictures with Yankees fans who came
up and like the degree to which like like you

(02:53):
have these big New Yorkers who were hugging me, and
like we took selfies the whole time. Now, what happened?
Sixth inning? I go to the men's room, I'm walking
out and there are three guys that flip the bird
at me, and I would say, in the entire course
of the game, nine innings, I probably had I don't
know thirty forty people suggest I do something that is

(03:15):
anatomically impossible, and that's all right, You're at a baseball game.
What are they gonna say? Yeah, exactly, yea, you know
they're gonna yell. And there was one jackass I don't
know even though who it was who put this little
TikTok video of him yelling and cursing at me about
blah blah blah blah, I'm a leftist, I hate America,
blah blah blah. I don't even know what he was saying.

(03:36):
He was like up further in the stand. Of course,
that's what the media ran with. Well, yeah, so if
it bleeds, it leads, and if it's flicking off you,
it leads, and it got front page. Which still, by
the way, I would have lost a bet on that
if you would have said, Ted Cruz going to the
Yankees game will get front page or the next day
of the newspapers in New York. I'm back. There's no
way it'll be the game. Nope, you're there, and I

(03:58):
gotta tell you. Look, I'm a hat me worried, I'm smiling,
I'm laughing, but every time the astro has got a
damn hit, I'm standing up, waving, cheering, I'm like surrounded
by Yankees. Okay, so in the seat behind me, there
is this gorgeous woman in a halter top that everybody saw.

(04:19):
It was trending on social media. So I mean it
was it was like the I was laughing because I
was watching the game at home. My phone's blowing up.
They're like, are you at the game? Are you at
the game? Like, no, I'm I'm a commoner. I'm back
at home. I'm watching this on TV. And then everybody's
tweeting me or texting me, going who is that sitting
behind him? Because it was like, if you're you had
to focus on the game and make sure no one

(04:41):
took a picture that they're like, oh, look Ted Cruz.
So I will say, my buddy Jeff leaning next to me.
He sort of leans over and tells me, Okay, she's
behind you. She's selling an NFT so she had some
sign and she's selling it and she has to use
the Monty Python phrase. She has great tracks of land.
So he tells me this. I'm like, okay, all we

(05:01):
need is one video of me turning around and my
eyes shifting down like they're twenty four frames in a second. Yep,
one twenty fourth of a second. I looked down and
that's the image they go with. Yeah, and I have
to admit the whole damn game. I'm like I'm looking
forward or if I turn around, my eyes are up.
Damn it, you are not. You're looking at the upper down.
But like it just so that that was and she

(05:24):
was actually very nice. We actually she and I took
a selfie. Were one of the many people it took
a selfie early on. It was before she was wearing
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So that I saw a bunch of the way, do
you know who was sitting in front of me? Who?
I saw the guy at the end of the game.
He was messing with you a little bit on TV
in front of you and kind of y'all were laughing.
It was pretty funny. So the guy next to us
was a Yankees fan, and we were just giving each

(07:14):
other crap the whole time, and he but he was
he was not a jerk. And we bought each other
drinks and we were laughing and having fun. But it
was it was a good rivalry. It was a good time.
But in front of me and two seats over was
Lauren Michaels really from SNL? I would say, so people
that don't know Laurren Michaels the the god of SNL.
All right, So so he asked you, did he ask
you if you're gonna host? Like because you're yes, all right?

(07:36):
So I leaned over and introduced myself and I said, Lauren,
I gotta tell you I grew up watching SNL. Look
like and he said to me his responses, he said,
so did I like, yeah, but I was six Yeah,
like Lauren's a lot older than I am. I'm like, dude,
I said, I probably watched five hundred snls in my life,

(07:56):
Like I literally I love good comedy and SNL is fantastic.
And I did say. I leaned in and said, I
gotta tell you you guys were funnier before you became
so political, like it was what did he say? He
just sort of frowned. He didn't engage. Later on, I

(08:16):
asked him a question. I said, all right, of all
the comedians you've ever had on the show, who was
the funniest who did you sit back and like say,
holy crap, that guy is a phenomenon and I don't
want to out him with his answer, because I think
that's probably not right. But I'll tell you what my
answer was. So I told him what I thought, and
I said, young Eddie Murphy when he was eighteen nineteen

(08:39):
years in Roga seventies, Eddie Murphy was I'd look, he's
he's such a talent, and I'm an old fan of
Delirious and Raw and the stand ups, which every sentence
of is politically incorrect. Anyone who knows those routines dexters say, Jack,
I'm not going to do any more of that, because
even in today's mild world, I'd probably be canceled for

(09:01):
acknowledging that. But young Eddie Murphy was one of the
greatest comedic talents of a modern day. So you're there
at the game. A lot of people don't realize you
were at the game, honestly, dumb luck because you were
on the view scheduled the next morning. You got to
fly up the night before. Jeff Suckers you into this

(09:22):
terrible deal of good seats sitting there on TV. Everyone
that's a liberal hating on you, Republicans are loving on you.
And I just played part of Whoopee there so by accident.
But you went on the View the next day, and
I'm going to play that in a moment for people
that are listening. But you go up there and this
is just like the perk of the trip. It turns

(09:43):
into the story. And then the media comes after you.
And then you get to the View and basically on
Navarre immediately steps in and it's like, wow, we at
least clap when we introduced you today on this book
tour event, you know, at the View, and we're nicer
in our audience than they were to you last night,
which goes back to the fake news because you were
taking selfies with everybody. Yeah. No, it literally it's the

(10:05):
front page of the New York Daily News. It's the
like they the press hammered me. The Houston Chronicle back
home said, you know, bronx jeer, And it's true. A
few people flip me off. I will tell you when
you and I were at the Astro's game in Houston,
there were some Yankees fans there. Remember what I told them.
I said, listen, we're gonna be polite to you. We're
gonna be nice to you, We're gonna be kind to you,

(10:26):
and then we're gonna kick your ass. Yeah. But we'll
do it with a smile. And they actually laughed. And
that's I mean. I was at Game six when we
beat beat the Yankees the Alcs a couple of years ago,
and we do the same thing where we're nice to
the Yankees fans. But winning is better, all right. So
the always the view. That's why I went to New
York was to do the view and listen. It's not

(10:47):
a stretch to say the view is not one of
us doesn't agree with us. So we go to the view.
We know that the host, the ladies there are not
our friends. They don't agree with us. Yes, but but
I'm going to go into the belly of the beast.
I'm going to go speak the truth. And by the way, look,
I've talked a lot of times about I think as conservatives,

(11:08):
we spend too much time preaching to the choir. We
spend too much time talking to the two point six
million people on Fox News. God loved the choir. They
need the love. But we got to talk to young people.
We got to talk to Hispantics, we got to talk
to African Americans. We need to talk to suburban moms.
There are millions of people every day who listen to
the View, who are just listening to left wing propaganda.

(11:28):
So I went on there to try to give them
a moment of truth because they're getting hammered by the
crazy policies from Washington, and then they're certainly not hearing
about it on the View, and so I went on,
They're expecting some fireworks, but as much fireworks as I
was expecting, I underestimated it. You and I had a
conversation before the view, let's pull back the curtain on

(11:50):
this about what to expect, and we had people that
gave us advice, a bit of debt with a view,
and everything that we said we thought would happen literally happened.
That the audience was clearly purposely stacked I think against
you well, but beyond that, so what happened. We get

(12:10):
just a couple of minutes into it and a couple
of audience members stand up and begins screaming, and I
think you can we have that audio. This is there's
fifteen seconds of screaming, by the way, for everybody before
I'm gonna play this, because otherwise you just and you're
trying to stay focused, You're trying to and your liv question.
We're on live TV. Yeah, and you did exactly what

(12:30):
you're supposed to do. You just keep going, powering through.
But I love how the view lost control of their
own show and their own audience to the point where
they had to reprimand their own audience. And this is
how it sounded funny in history we've ever taken in.
The problem is we spent nearly seven trillion dollars. And
that's what ladies, ladies, it steals us. Let us do

(12:56):
our job, Let us do our job. We hear what
you have to say, but you gotta go. So did
they kick them out because we didn't get to see this.
They didn't go to the audience obviously, so they kicked
them out. It was it was two climate protesters that
they weren't even protesting me. It was actually kind of funny.
They were protesting climate in general, and they were and
the quip which which I said at the time, which

(13:17):
they did air, I said, it's a good thing you
guys don't have a van go, you know, because now
they're just trashing art all over the world. You know,
these jackasses would throw a can of soup on it.
And so they were standing there screaming about client climate.
The thing that was interesting is the host were freaking
out and what they told me, they said, this has
never happened in the history of our show. We've never

(13:40):
had anyone do this, and I actually think it freaked
them out. So it took a while. They're standing there screaming,
we're doing the show. The show security was not on
the ball because they let them stand there and scream.
There was actually a second interruption later in the show
a couple of minutes las towards you. That was the
F bombs right, Well, so it was someone standing up.

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It was some lady standing up who had this this
flag and it had a circle with an hour glass
sign in it, and I don't know, apparently it's some
leftist organization. It wasn't even anarchist. I don't know what
the damn thing means. But she just began screaming fufufu,
like at the top of her lungs, and so they
just bleeped it out and it went to break and

(14:22):
they just It was supposed to be initially about an
eight minute segment, and they ended up closing it at
about four because they're like, okay, we've got an audience
member screaming the F bomb on national television. This is
probably a problem. So when they who did they walk
out their own a quarter, they have to like get
security to literally like them and drag them out. They
didn't lift them and drag them out, but security escorted

(14:43):
them out, and in the commercial break, the host gave
a big lecture to the audience, don't do this. We
don't have Then they said, we don't have a mic
on the audience. We won't air what you're saying, So
don't do this, and nobody else did. I loved it
because I thought it was just so all encompassing of
the hatred and the bigotry towards the grand debate of

(15:03):
ideas and the view claims they're about the views of Americans, right,
the views of everybody, and that they're supposed to be
this place we have a grand debate. They're not anymore.
And even their audience members I think, proved that point well.
And look, it was striking that there were a couple
of times in particular that we really got into substance.
One time was talking about election denial and listen has

(15:27):
left us. They sort of talk the you know, so
they asked the question you know, will you admit right now,
Joe Biden was legitimately elected and his election was hunky,
dorry and fantastic, and will you salute and kiss Biden's darier? Yeah,
and I'm like, he is the president. And that was
aware of the best response that you could have had.

(15:48):
And I also put it out. I said, listen, you
guys repeatedly insist that Republicans take this pledge everything was legitimate.
And I said, you're totally hypocrites because Democrats come on
all the time on your damn show and attack the
legitimacy of Republicans being elected, and you not only don't

(16:08):
disagree with them, you agree with them and embrace them.
And I think you gotta know. I was gonna say,
you go back to the history here. There was a
part with Hillary Quinton, and you clearly were ready. You
did your homework, and you brought up that, Hey, it
was Hillary Quinton who went on the views and de legitimized.
And by the way, I don't know if you saw
the stake because you've been traveling, but Hillary Quinton actually

(16:30):
came out today already saying that the Republicans are going
to still the midterm elections. She is and came out
and said, get ready for it, because if they do
win the House and the Senate, it's illegitimate. No one's
freaking out, by the way and calling her out for
that either, like they're not doing it. I let her
up today on radio. But well that good. I'm glad.
Listen to Anna Navarro getting triggered when you started listing

(16:54):
all the Democrats denying election results. And then she tells
you and I love this because I know her. I
know her well. She's as she calls you by your
first name, Ted, right, that's her like power play, which
is classic and an Navarro would not exist if it
wasn't for yelling. She got hired as being an angry
woman on CNN, like that's what her whole stick was.

(17:14):
And then she tries to tell you like you should
be quiet when there's like how many people coming after
you at the same point, listen, Hellary Clinton didn't say whatever.
She didn't say. I'm saying to you. Listen, and she said,
we didn't say any here and you would find her.
She called Donald Johnson next morning and she competed the
election tall Sonny. She sat there while wild Donald or

(17:41):
games Trump is an illegitimate press that Hillary Clinton. Now
you pulled this. If people miss this, you pulled out
the exact quotes on a piece of paper. You were
ready for the headlines. I had copies of the headlines
of press stories. So I'm reading press stories and you
probably didn't see this from the view that that I did.
No pun intended, but watching all of their faces go
to oh blank moment because they realized they stepped in

(18:03):
it and they couldn't get out of it. So the
only option was for a Navard say, well, we need
to calm down at the table. Election is stolen from you,
Hillary Clinton. In two thousand and two, George W. Bush
was selected, not elected. Joe Biden al Gore was was
elected president. So Joe Biden, I love it. We don't

(18:24):
screaming each other, right, we don't scream each other. They
knew they were busted. You owned them on the fact
that they allowed their show to have Hillary Clinton say
over and over again that the election was illegitimate. So
the wild hypocrisy. Hillary Clinton went on the View and
said Donald Trump's election was illegitimate. They all agreed with it.
Stacy Abrams went on their show and said that Kemp's

(18:45):
beating her in Georgia for governor was illegitimate. They all
agreed with it. Not only that, though I pointed out
the ridiculousness of Benny Thompson, the chairman of the Kangaroo Court,
that is, the January sixth Committee objected to the certification
of a Republican president. Jamie Raskin, the lead impeachment manager

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for the Democrats going after Donald Trump, one of his
very first act in Congress was to object to the
certification of a Republican president. Democrats have been doing this
for over twenty years, actually longer than that. But not
only that. It wasn't just Donald Trump. You might say, Okay,
Donald Trump broke their minds, and so they all lost

(19:26):
their minds. They did this to George W. Bush. Joe
Biden claimed in two thousand al Gore was elected president.
He said the election was illegitimate, and so the utter hypocrisy.
And you know what, Whoopee said, and Anna said, and
all them they said, oh no, no, it's completely true
when it's Republicans. When it's Republicans, it's illegitimate. If a
Democrat wins, you cannot say it's ill legitimate. I mean,

(19:49):
they demonstrated the rank hypocrisy a edited well, and they
were obsessed with January six. They were trying to tie you,
obviously to January six. You brought up let's be clear
about violence and that includes Antifa, and then Whoopie actually
said she doesn't know what an Antifa riot was, had
no clue what that even means. Listen, no, you know,

(20:12):
here's the thing. We may not like when Republicans win,
but we don't go and we don't storm, we don't
try to teams. But did I list an entire year
of Antifa riots where cities across police cars. Your position
is the left doesn't engage in violence. Really, the left

(20:34):
made a career over the last year and a half,
two years of they set up their own countries. Well,
and remember to the city of Chaz that turned in
the city of what was it? Chaz became after that,
like the police abandoned it and said we can't handle it.
So the entire reason I went on the view is
that yesterday my new book came out. The book is

(20:57):
Justice Corrupted, How the Left is weaponized the legal system.
By the way, it shot to the top of the
Amazon bestseller list, people are pre ordering it and buying it.
But I went on the View to talk about it,
and one of the things I talk about is great length,
is the violence of the Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots,
riots all over the country that burn cities, that fire

(21:19):
bomb police cars, that murdered people. And by the way,
the Democrats didn't just turned to blind eye. They celebrated it.
Kamala Harris raised bail money to bail out of jail,
violent rioters destroying cities, and you know, it really does
strike to the heart of the corrupt corporate media. That

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Whoopee's reaction is, I don't know what an Antifa riot is.
I mean, I mean, I want you to think of
all the moms at home who are listening to the View,
who what they hear is this sanitized problem every day.
If what they're hearing is there's no such thing as
an Antifa riot, it is a stunning it. There's value

(22:02):
to going into the belly of the beast, whether it's
Yankee Stadium or the View. There's value to standing up
at a happy warrior. So I'm smiling throughout all of this.
They're losing their minds. Their hair is on fire, which
is when you know you're winning. It's truth is powerful,
and you can say truth with joy and it is powerful.
But look also in the book Justice Corrupted, I talk

(22:25):
about I tell the inside story of January sixth. It's
actually the first book that has been written from anyone
that tells the real inside story of what happens on
January sixth. I was standing on the Senate floor objecting,
leading the Senate objections when January six unfolded. So I
walked through in the book what happened there. Donald Trump

(22:46):
called me and asked me to personally argue the US
Supreme Court case if the court had taken the case.
And so the book I tell that story. I bring
people inside, and I think it's valuable to go on
the view and to go in hostile environments and try
to speak truth in an environment where truth is usually absent.

(23:07):
There's something interesting you just mentioned. I want people to
grab the book. Obviously, preorder it, grab it wherever you
want to. It's not even pre ordered this now on Amazon.
It's in book bookstores. It is widely in bookstores. I'm
in the middle of the national bus tour. We've had
several people come in. They went to the bookstore bought
the book, and I'm signing the book on the bus
tour because they went and bought it and brought it

(23:28):
to you tour. Today. I was at the airport flying
here to Nashville where we are right now as we
record this for the bus tour, and it was in
the airport today, which was which was nice to see
it there. But for people that don't understand you were
there January the six, Yes, and I think there's some
people that don't understand that. What does you think the
biggest lie of that day? Because you experienced it, you

(23:49):
were there, you could see it on the view. There's
an obsession, yes, I would say in healthy obsession with
January six. Democrats feel like it's the only thing they
have right now that's powerful going into the mid terms.
And by the way, in my experience, nobody outside of
the Washington Beltway or the New York media elite gives
a flip about January six. It's the most bizarre thing.

(24:11):
When you talk to reporters in Washington, it's all they
ask about. When you talked about people like the view,
it's all they care about. When you get back in
Texas or look, I'm in the middle of a seventeen
state bus tour. I was in North Carolina earlier today,
I'm in Tennessee today. It was in Ohio before that, Virginia, Maryland,
wherever you go. Nobody in real America cares a damn
about this. It is an obsession of leftist I would

(24:33):
say they're two lies. At the heart of the media
twisting of January sixth one is there lie that voter
fraud doesn't exist. And anyone who says voter fraud exists
is a crazy tinfoil hat wearing conspirators. And the reality
is voter fraud has been an aspect of elections from

(24:57):
literally the very first time any one had an election,
when the cabmen got together and voted on the Grand Puba,
somebody stuffed the damn ballot box. That is human nature.
That's what people do, and listen. I've spent more than
twenty years fighting for election integrity, fighting against voter fraud.

(25:19):
I led a coalition of states in front of the
US Supreme Court defending photo ID laws for election because
it's a powerful tool to stop voter fraud. And we
won six to three in an opinion that Justice John
Paul Stevens, one of the noted liberals of the court,
wrote saying photoid for elections protects the integrity of elections

(25:39):
and prevents people from having their votes stolen. What is
weird about the world post January six is the media
and Democrats treated as if anyone saying voter fraud exists
is a nutcase and their domestic terrorists in their minds.
It is utterly a historical And by the way, CNN,
you take someone like Jake Tapper who refers to anyone

(26:00):
worried about voter fraud as an insurrectionist. Yeah, it is bizarre.
So that's one lies the notion that voter fraud doesn't exist.
There was real and substantial evidence of voter fraud in
the twenty twenty election, very disturbing. Democrats took advantage of
the COVID pandemic to loosen restrictions to set up drop
boxes that you could drop things off in the middle

(26:22):
of the night. States like Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania state constitution prohibits
mail in ballots except in very limited circumstances. Pennsylvania, they
allowed universal mail in ballots. By the way, mail in
ballots have long been acknowledged as a source of voter fraud.
It makes it easier to engage in voter fraud. Pennsylvania

(26:45):
did so directly contrary to the Pennsylvania State Constitution. In
the book Justice Corrupted, I walk through these various facts.
And by the way, one of the talking points leftists
used as well, there were sixty some odd cases against
them and they all lost. There's some truth to that,
But what I point out in the book is the
vast majority of those cases we're not decided on the merits.

(27:07):
In other words, the court never determined was their voter
fraud or not. The court threw them out on procedural grounds,
threw them out on standing, the court threw them out
on timing of when the case was brought. So nobody
looked to the underlying facts. So I walked through that
in great length. But the other big lie, So listen
on January sixth, there were some people who engaged in

(27:29):
acts of violence. There's some people who assaulted police officers.
My view is real simple. If you engage in an
act of violence, you should be prosecuted. If you assault
a police officer, you should go to jail a long time.
And that's true. Whether I agree with your politics or disagree,
if your right wing or left wing or wherever your
views are. You heard a cop, You're going to jail

(27:53):
and you're going to live in a six by eight
concrete cell for a long time. That is rule of
law and justice. But the Democrats and the media and
the Biden de ojab done is they've taken the violent
actions of a limited number of people on that day
and they've used it to try to slander and paint
the tens of thousands of peaceful protesters. The day after

(28:17):
January six, obviously January seventh, I was in the BWI
airport and there were dozens of little ladies who were
there and they came up to me and they were
hugging me and they were crying, and they said, listen,
I was on the mall. I was waving flags, American flags,
singing God bless America. They weren't going to the capitol

(28:39):
to invade. And now the press is calling me a terrorist.
And they were literally hugging me and crying, why is
this happening? And what the press and the Democrats and
the Biden DJB done. His number one attack everyone who
gaged in a peaceful protests and you've got a First
Amendment right to engage in peaceful protest. And there were
thousands of patriots who came to Washington on January sixth

(29:01):
to speak out in support of our nation. But they
tried more broadly to paint every person who voted for
Donald Trump. I voted for Donald Trump as a terrorist.
If you vote for Trump, if you liked Trump, you're
a terrorist. That's what they were trying to paint that
picture on the view as well. And by the way,
the ridiculous kabuki theater. For four or five months after

(29:21):
January sixth, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer erected fences with
razor wire around the United States Capital. They stationed National
guardsmen who were holding machine guns with no magazines, They
had no bullets, so they were literally scary props. And
I would go talk to them, and actually the red
state governors brought their guardsmen home pretty quickly. It was

(29:44):
clear that this was pure political theater. This was not
actually responding to a real threat. So the only guardsmen
that were there were from Blue states like New York,
New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut. And I go talk to
the guardsmen all the time. And I got to tell you,
almost to a person, they were pissed because they got
that they were being used as props in political theater.

(30:05):
And by the way, these are guardsmen who have jobs,
who have families, who got called up and they're standing
there in camos holding scary looking machine guns with no
bullets in the party five in order for what Pelosi
and Schumer wanted to say is every Republican in America
is a dangerous terrorist and you should be scared of them.
And I got to say, those guardsmen were understandably pissed.

(30:27):
Why am I away from my kids to stand here
as a prop. There's another issue that I want to
bring up before and again, grab the book. It's out,
make sure you get it. But there's another political issue
that I want to bring up real quick. And I'm
sure you saw this today. I think this is a
massive victory. The New York Supreme Court has reinstated all

(30:49):
employees fired for being unvaccinated, and they are ordering back pay.
The State Supreme Court found that being vaccinated as not
the spread of COVID nineteen. When he said it again,
the State Supreme Court found that being vaccinated does not
stop the spread of COVID nineteen. If you don't believe me,
CDC director just got COVID again and she's double boosted

(31:11):
double vacs. I think I think she said six boosters.
Is it six out? I believe that's right. I mean,
she's got to have the most of anybody because that's
her job to you know, pimp it. And it was
just a month ago she got her last booster of
the vaccine. But when the New York Supreme Court reinstated
all of these employees who were fired for not being vaccinated,
ordered the back pay, saying their rights had been violated.

(31:33):
I think there was a moment for so many Americans,
Senator that just said hallelujah finally because New York City
fired roughly one thousand, four hundred employees for being unvaccinated
earlier this year after the city adopted a vaccine mandate
under the former mayor Bill de Blasio. Now, the quest
the reason why I ask you about this is there
some of you are saying, Okay, well, what does this

(31:55):
mean for all of the people in the military who
were put basic their careers stopped. They're not able to
be deployed, They're not getting the jobs that they're supposed
to be having. Is this going to then tie into
that in the future, So I hope. So there's litigation
going on all across the country. These vaccine mandates are ridiculous,

(32:17):
they're illegal, they're abusive, They're wrong. I've been leading the
fight and Senate against them from day one. My view
on the vaccine is simple. If you choose to get
the vaccine, that's you're right. You ought to be able
to choose to do that. And if you choose not to,
that's you're right, and you ought to be able to
choose to do that. And there should be no government mandate.
There should be no school forcing you to do it,
there should be no employer forcing you to do it.

(32:39):
You shouldn't lose your job, you know. Joe Biden issued
four different vaccine mandates as president. One applied to active
duty military, another applied to federal civilian employees, another applied
to federal contractors people who do business with the federal government,
and the fourth one applied to large employers, anyone that

(33:01):
had a hundred or more employees. All of them I
believe were an absolute abuse of power and were illegal.
All of them have been challenged in court. The one
that applied to private employers a hundred more employees has
been struck down and went all the way up to
the Supreme Court. It was struck down. It was illegal,
it was contrary to federal law, so that one is
not an effect. Although even after the Court of Appeals

(33:22):
had stayed that order, the White House Press Secretary stood
up and said everyone should follow it anyway. So a
court has ordered that this is illegal, but never mind
what the courts say. Followed anyway. And I think the
White House was very cynically engaged in a game where
they said, we know what we're doing is illegal, but
a bunch of people will obey our order not knowing

(33:46):
that it's illegal, and then it'll be too late, that
will already obeyed us. The other mandates are at various
stages of litigation, and I got to tell you I've
engaged in that litigation. I've led amicus brief, so amaicus
amicus curii brief is Latin for friend of the court,
and those are briefs that are written by people that

(34:06):
are not parties to the litigation, but they come in
and have views. And I've led amicus briefs in multiple
cases against vaccine mandates, defending Navy seals, defending servicemen and women. Look,
I've talked to Navy seals who spent ten fifteen years training,
defending the nation, going to some of the roughest combat
situations you could imagine. And these idiots in this White

(34:28):
House are trying to fire these Navy seals because they've
made the decision that they don't want to get a
COVID vaccine. It's wrong, it's immoral. Those cases are ongoing,
but the New York decision is a big victory. It's
exactly right, and it if you can win in New York,
I think there's now feeling that you can win anywhere
with this look and on the merits of it. We

(34:50):
had a senior executive adviser testifying in Europe who said,
we never test, we never tested whether the vaccine prevents
the transmission of COVID. Now, mind you, these abusive bureaucrats,
and top of that list is Anthony Fauci, who I

(35:12):
think is the most dangerous and the most harmful bureaucrat
in the history of our country, which is quite quite
a distinction. They repeatedly told us take the vaccine, it
stops vaccination it stops transmission. Yeah, well, that's an interesting theory.
You could understand how it could be true, But it
would seem kind of relevant that the maker of one

(35:35):
of the top most predominant vaccines said we never even tested,
We never even looked to assess whether the vaccine stops
the transmission of the virus. That is a profound indication
that when Faucci and the other despots we're demanding everyone
must get the vaccine regardless of what you think, because

(35:58):
we're telling you it stops transmission, they had zero scientific basis,
zero data backing it up. It was politics, it wasn't science,
it wasn't medicine. It's going to be very interesting to
see how people move forward with this. I think, like
you said, that New York Supreme Court ruling saying what
they said that they were it was an outright violation

(36:19):
of these people's rights is huge. And saying being vaccinated
is something they should have never they should have never
been fired, and ordering back pay is a victory for
everybody's right to decide what's best for them. And by
the way, I'll tell you so I've spent for the
last several years, I've either been the chairman of the
ranking member of the Aviation subcommittee in the Senate Commerce Committee,

(36:41):
so I've had jurisdiction over all of aviation. We had
a hearing with the CEOs of the big airlines. The
airlines varied in terms of how they handled this. They
were all federal contractors, so they were facing the Biden
White House trying to really pressure them into enforcing a
vaccine mandate. Some of the airlines did an able jobs.
Southwest Airlines Gary Kelly stood up and said, we are

(37:03):
not going to force anyone to get a vaccine. They
were fighting the White House. It was hard, but Southwest
did the right thing. Delta by and large did the
same thing. American did the same thing. The one that
was terrible of the major airlines was United and the
United CEO is a big support of the Biden White House.
He was trying to curry favor with the Biden White House.

(37:26):
And so they said, we are going to mandate that
our employees get the COVID vaccine, and if you don't
get the COVID vaccine, you're fired. And there were over
two thousand United pilots, United flight attendants, ticket agent, baggage handlers,
that they fired. You're not getting the vaccine. Your job
is done. And so we had a hearing in the
Senate where the United CEO I ripped him a new one,

(37:49):
and I read through letters that I've gotten from United employees,
and look, Houston is a big hub for United. So
there are tens of thousands of United employees who live
in Houston. My hometown. You're you're adopted hometown. Yeah. And
I read through letters of people who spent decades with
United who these jackasses fired because they didn't comply with

(38:10):
the mandate. And even if, by the way, they had
a medical reason they didn't get the mandates. Sometimes people
had other medical conditions that their doctors advised them don't
get the vaccine, didn't matter. If they had a religious objection,
didn't matter. United just came down with a club and
I unloaded on it. And I will tell you that
public pressure, I've played a partner. Others played a partner

(38:33):
cause United to change their policy and to bring those
employees back. And I fly United all the time, and
it has been literally dozens, if not hundreds of times
I've had United employees come up to me, flight attendants,
pilots who just say thank you. Nobody was fighting for us.
Thank you for standing up and fighting for us. So

(38:54):
it makes a difference when you go out and fight. Yes,
whether it's in New York in the stands, whether it's
at the View, or whether it's with United. Last question
for you, um, are we going to see you on TV?
Your is your buddy Jeff going to get the good
tickets to be on TV again for the World Series?
That really is what should we should end on today?

(39:15):
So look, I'm agonized the first three rows just so
you know, I'm just I'm not trying to put pressure,
but it needs to be the first three rows. I
am agonizing over that because I'm in the middle of
a seventeen state bus tour, so I am right now
scheduled to be all over the country trying to retake
the Senate and retake the House. But the Astros, listen,

(39:35):
we're in the six. We've been in the six Alcs
in a row. We're in the fourth World Series out
of six. It is insane and one thing, you know,
but but folks at home may not know. The Baseball
playoffs have become a really important thing to me in
my family, with my girls. So twenty seventeen, the World Series.

(40:00):
I had tickets to Game three, four, and five of
the World Series. Game three I took my dad. Really
cool to go with your dad to the World Series,
like I lifetime memory. Yeah, as a kid, I went
with my dad. We had we had season tickets, so
it was awesome. Game four I took Heidi. That actually
was a mistake. Heidi didn't give a damn about sport.

(40:21):
She doesn't care about baseball. She was bored out of
her mind. It was like a bad, bad mistake. And
by the way, Game four all right. So I was
sitting actually in seats pretty comparable to where I was
at the Yankee Stadium. It was behind home played. I
think it was third row. Very good friend of mine
his seats. I arrived slightly late to the game. I
arrived in the second indning because I had a speech

(40:43):
that I had to give north of Houston. So I
get there in the second inning and my buddy hands
me a red wine. And I'm sitting there and my
phone lights up within minutes, including my buddy Jeff, who's
texting me, dude, what the hell is wrong with you? Yeah?
And you're an America's baseball game, and I turned to
my friend who had invited me to sit there, and
I'm like, all right, are you actually trying to run

(41:06):
the OPO attack ads against me? I know how to
go to a baseball game. Give me a damn bud
light and a hot dog, Like I'm not a communist.
So by the third inning I had a bud light
at a hot dog. But there was one inning that
was really painful, and I asked my friend, I'm like,
should I put my pinky up while I'm drinking like
the red wine? It was terrible? Yeah, I don't. I
don't care if it comes out of a boxer can

(41:28):
if it's red? Wrong? Wrong? Okay, So Game five, Game five,
I brought my youngest daughter, Katherine. Now, Game five was
on October twenty eighth, and I remember it because it
was the day after Catherine's eighth birthday and she went
with me and and it's an interesting testament to the times.

(41:52):
So when you and I went to the baseball right now,
I have a security detail that protects me. Unfortunately, we're
just living an anger time where people are not making threats,
and they make threats. So in twenty seventeen, I didn't
have a detail. It was literally just Catherine and me.
It was daddy and daughter, the two of us. I
had no staff, I had no detail, was just the

(42:13):
two of us. That we sat there. And if you
remember Game five of the twenty seventeen World Series, that's
the one that went till about one third in the morning.
And it was on. It was up and down, and
it was dramatic, and Catherine and I are hugging and
dancing and crying and celebrating and we one Game five.
And I told her afterwards, I said, sweetheart, you don't

(42:34):
appreciate this now, but you will. You will tell your
grandkids you were here tonight and you have just witnessed
the greatest baseball game and the history of Houston Astros like.
There's never been another one like it, there never will
be since then. So it became a thing for all
that Catherine and I do together. So it's my eldest daughter, Caroline.

(42:58):
She's not really into baseball, she doesn't really want to go.
But Katherine, Katherine's a softball player. She's a very good
softball player. And Katherine Talden. Now Catherine is eleven. She
turns twelve on October twenty seventh, so so in I
would say, I'm thinking a World Series ticket would be
a good gift. So we have gone for the last

(43:19):
five years. I take Katherine to the playoffs and it's
just become a daddy daughter thing that we go together.
And she's such a good softball player that will be like,
I'll try to explain, Okay, what's going on? All right,
there's a drop third strike and she's like, Dad, yeah,
I know what that is. Come on, that's like everyone
knows that. And it has become I think one of

(43:41):
my favorite things in life to go with my little
kookie bear, my little Katherine and the two of us
go into baseball. I don't know if we're going to
get to this World Series because the one game I
could go to is Saturday. But Catherine is having ten
little girls, ten, eleven and twelve year old girls spend
the night our house. You're gonna lose that battle. Yeah,

(44:02):
So I'm we may not make it to a World
serious because I may be on the bus tour campaigning
to retake America. I hope we do. I don't have
a great answer to that, but I'll tell you this.
We'll keep you posted. My friends out there. We'll keep
you posted and if it goes to the other you know,
there's a couple of games on the road, you could
always just you know, make it up there for those

(44:23):
you know what I'm I'm oh, have you do you
know the Phillies. I've never been. I've never been a Phillies.
I don't think that's a promise you can deliver, really that.
I know the Eagles fans, but that's a little different
city of brotherly love. Yeah, okay, it's the only stadium
I know where they throw batteries at the opposing players

(44:47):
umi point, So we'll see. I'm not holding my breath
on going to a game in Philadelphia. Um, I hope
we win. I'm gonna be cheering them on. And and
I will say, one of the greatest joys in life
has been going. And I've told Katherine, I'm like this

(45:07):
is this will never happen again, that we have a
period where this team is so good for so long
that we get to you don't take it for granted
because it may not happen for twenty more years. Welcome
to baseball. Yes you don't believe me, Call the Cubs.
They'll explain it all. Two years or you know the
Curse of the Bambino, you know, I mean, how long
did that last? Exactly? Boston. There's so many examples, this Senator,

(45:29):
this is really fun. I love that we got to
pull back the curtain a little bit on the view
the book. Most importantly for people listening right now, you
can grab it everywhere. It's out name of the book
one more time, so people know where to get it.
Justice Corrupted, How the Left is weaponized the legal system.
You can get it on Amazon, you get it into
Barnes and Nobles, you can get it in Books a million,
wherever you get your books. You can get it at
Sam's Club. But go buy the book, and I think

(45:52):
you'll enjoy it. It. Actually it was fun writing it.
I like writing books. I try to tell stories. What
I try to do in the book is what we
try to do in the podcast is, which is I
try to take readers behind the curtain. I try to
take them behind the scenes to understand what's really going on.
And I do think the topic of this book is

(46:13):
really important right now, and so I think you'll enjoy it.
I think you'll learn from it. I think you'll be
equipped when you're talking with your friends and family to
know more about what is happening with Biden using the
DOJ and the FBI and the IRS and the federal
government to target his enemies. And I think that's an
incredible threat to the rule of law and to our liberty.

(46:33):
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