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March 8, 2021 38 mins

"Folge 1 – In den vergangenen 30 Jahren sind in Ciudad Juárez Hunderte Frauen verschwunden. Juárez ist eine berühmte mexikanische Grenzstadt, direkt neben El Paso, Texas. Einige der Frauen wurden später tot aufgefunden. Vieles hat darauf hingedeutet, dass hier ein Serienkiller zugange war. Die beiden Hosts Leyla Yenirce und Düzen Tekkal beginnen in dieser Folge der Frage nachzugehen, wer für diese schrecklichen Taten verantwortlich ist. Wir lernen einen ehemaligen Top-Agenten vom FBI kennen, der direkt an der Grenze gearbeitet hat, sowie die Journalistin Diana Washington Valdez, die bisher am meisten über diese mysteriösen Tötungen herausgefunden hat. Außerdem treffen wir die Familie von Sagrario González Flores – eine der Frauen, die auf unerklärliche Weise umgekommen ist.


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American families has overwhelmed officials at the southern border. We're
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out at this hotel. There's a horrific history of violence
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at it and say it's not just a murderer. There's
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fan Iran un decent addum the young frau at under
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mod and the young Frau had as far as Vera
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a very emotional moment for me. It's just like all
the emotions that I had surprised up to then about

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the victims, just just a damn burst and then you know,
I started starving uncontrollably. I could stop it, just it
just happened, and I cried and I cried and I cried,
and the people who walked by saw me and mentioned
came from by, and Frank vas Lowside contain and I
couldn't tell. She had to an English his eliteness twin

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in the organ the Countess and vanished Controlean but it
washed out and I'm off. You know, you think about
the helplessness of the victims. You're sixteen seventeen year old
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