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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Legitary, top of the day cowards and patrons and shitboy
de camp merroll. This is Victory Lights, you know what
I mean, the most illustrious program on the planet. And
today we have a very very very special guest. Okay,
someone who's meeting the moment that New York needs. You
know why he's doing that because he is the moment, Okay,
zor arman DONI is a state of Settleman. He's representing Queens.
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He's affectionately referred to as the People's Republic of Historia.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know what I'm saying. That's Queen's y'all. You know
what I mean. If you've never been to a gentleman's club,
I recommend it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
In October of twenty twenty four, he officially announced his
campaign for mayor of New York Cities. I got excited,
y'all should get excited. And for the past few months,
he's been steadily climbing in the polls. You know what
I mean, The numbers are going up. Okay, He's winning
over New Yorkers with a very simple platform. He wants
to make New York more affordable for the people who
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make it what it is.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
New Yorkers Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
As of this taping, he stands second in ranking or
place alignment, whatever you want to call it, right behind
y'all favorite Disgrace Boso bedsor King Nipple Ring God Andrew
Kuo Mazzarella. Okay, but there's a difference between stats and
who's actually showing up to vote. Pulling aside. We gotta
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show up, yo, listen to me. Polling aside, we gotta
show up. Every single vote counts. It's not a joke, bro,
especially at the local level. I was making a joke
about like, Yo, three thousand Puerto Ricans ain't gonna swing
the vote. They can, Okay, So Ramong, Josse Orlando, y'all
gotta get in line, get information.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm looking at you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The Democratic primary is approaching fast, bro, It is right
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
In June and Junio June, Honio.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And I in Glare, I decided to see if my
man's all round was a real deal. So I sat
down with him. You know what I'm saying. We talked
about schools and Bronx. We're gonna get into that. You're
gonna enjoy that retiring from the rapper lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's very cushy lifestyles to get into politics, the ways
how he plans to make New York for us New Yorkers.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
If you were born and raised here, if you got
beat up in the public high school, you are a
New Yorker and he's trying to make New York for you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We also do something very important, something called subway etiquette.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And what food is gonna be banned in the future.
Meet nasty freaks eating it on the train? All right,
So no bedfeed on the train, and we're gonna decide
once and for all what you could put in.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Your mouth on the train. Ayo.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So listen, enjoy the interview, and catch me at the polls.
I ain't gonna be there because I'm in Jersey, but
you need to be there. Okay, I can't vote, but
I'm gonna set him shop and I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'll vote like victory. Like you know what I'm saying.
We are here.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
This is a momentous occasion, you know what I mean.
A lot of y'all I've been reading the comments. I
read the comments. I've been reading it, and y'all think
that this is green screen. This is not green screen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This is really victory, Like we are really here at bbq's.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
This is really all round. My Donnie the next man
in New York City. I said it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So listen, let's let's let's get into it right off,
rip man, because we both you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
New York City kids grow up on Upper West Side,
Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
When I was doing my research, I was like, oh snap,
I was like, yo, my man's all.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I went to Bronx Science, I went to deal with Clinton.
I was like, you already know what I'm going with this.
I was like, I want to listen for y'all. I
don't know New York City history.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Bron Science is on this side, Dealer Clinton is on
this side. Dealer Clinton is the magnet school for Robin
Brock Science kids.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know what I'm saying, and finger point, Yo, give
me that.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Basketball JV team definitely got much, definitely got much.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I wasn't on it, yo, listen, but as a maya,
you know what I mean, Like you have input into
that type of stuff. Because I saw even as a kid,
I was like, why did they put gen Pop next
to the school that you got to test into, and
then put Tracy Towers right across the street from that.
So talk about a little bit about that Bronx Science experience, man,
talk talking to these kids about Bronx High schools.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Man, Yeah, I mean, look it was. It was an experienced.
Like you said, Look like many Bronx Science kids. I
tried for Cyvesant didn't get in shout out, I'm gonna say.
I was like, yo, number what we say bron Science here,
at least we get personalities.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So we ended up there. It was good man. I
mean I used to take the one train in the
v X ten two thirty first Street.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I take the ten. I'd be shouting back door to
open it up.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Man, back.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And then but it opened my eyes to New York City.
Like I lived in Morningside Heights, My world at that
time was not too far from where I was. But
then when I went to Bronx Science, most of my
close friends by the time I graduated, we're living in
Queensland and Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Pounder parts, right.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We're talking about like if you're in Glen Oaks or
if you're in Back Beach in Middle village.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know, but it's not simple.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm taking a train to a bus, to a bus exactly,
to a shuttle exactly.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But it's it's I think this is what it has
been for so many kids growing up in this city,
is you get a glimpse of the world that you
love and a sense that life could be so much
better than this.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's funny because you know, talking about that like that,
growing up that upbringing, people would look at me and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Look at you and be like, yeah, you guys might
have not got along back in the days. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But I am here to tell you that is a
that is an egregious mischaracterization of your boy.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And it was all right, you know what I'm saying.
Probably would have been chilling, haven't you know what I'm saying.
The Cheosburgh and.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Cowboys, you know what I mean from Kennedy Fred Chicken,
which is hellal shout out KFC, Shout to KFC, the
real KFC.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But again, upbringing. A very important part of that is parents.
We both are children of immigrants, you know what I'm saying,
which uh probably explains my next question. Before you ran
for state Settlement in Queen's Yes, you managed Ross Barker's
State Center campaign in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Look at you ran. You know what I'm saying, they
got my you know what, man, I got the footnotes. Yeah,
maybe you know what I'm saying. This is journalism but
a capital jay.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So you were doing that that takes a lot of
like energy, bro?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Was that like? Was that your parents being like, yo, listen.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
We ain't come here for nothing, bro, Like you better
get your hands down there and get to work.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Was that was that entred into politics on purpose where
you're just trying to be for the college resume like
it was?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It was?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It actually all began a few years earlier. So you
know that's racist. You know he speaking of Bronx science,
my Bronx size graduate stat So I used to be
a big Deaths racist fan. And I remember opening up
The Village Voice in twenty fifteen there was an article
about Heimes endorsing his childhood friend, Ellie Nudge Me, who
was running for city council.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And so I saw this and I was like, I
gotta I gotta help out.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
So I took the F train to one hundred and
sixty ninth Street, and I would get out and knock
on doors for Eli, and he ran and shout out
to my man. He did lose, but that was my
entry into local politics. And so from there I got
more involved with a club called the Muslim Democratic Club
of New York and I ended up working on a
city council race in Bay Ridge for a Palestinian Lutheran
minister and raised like a Republican's head exploded, what.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Do you mean he's a PALISTI and Lutheran minister? I
was here, we are what are you talk? What are
we talking about? The present? Baby? So so I worked
on that campaign. It changed my life.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
That was a campaign I used to do like an
hour and a half round trip on the train to
get down from Morningside Heights to Bay Ridge.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I was asleep.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean, that's how much I believed in it,
because here was a guy who understood that dignity was
something that was not gonna go.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Everybody deserves it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
We can't keep letting New Yorkers get priced out, and
that it's consistent to believe that and want the same
things for everybody everywhere. And after I worked on that
then I became Ross Barkins's campaign manager. And actually, my parents,
I would say, they've just been supportive throughout my life
whenever I wanted to take a big swing that I
can take it with confidence. And the one thing though,
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when I ran for State Assembly, my mom was like,
you don't have to have a masterress to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Why do we know what bachelor's is sufficious? Actually there's
no requirement. Why do y'all do that? Why do y'all
do that?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
My mom was like, yo, listen, I got I got
a big TV deal.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know what I'm saying. I got a little bit.
I got a little bit of a bag. That's all right.
And then my mother manly called me and was just like,
she didn't call me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Let's be real. She did what immigrant mothers do. She
left me a five minute what's that voice?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No hit it? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I have to put it on two X me. And
she was like, why didn't you get a DVD? This
wouldn't you get a pay pump if you got a degree?
I was like, mom, mad is not how show business works.
It is not a meritocracy, you know what I'm saying.
The studio system is cooked. Okay, and they'll let me
get on my soapbox. I'm saying, don't let me get
on my soapbox. So was that what made you like,
you know, rub the political cocaine gungs like and be like, yo.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, we're going how I describe it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Actually, it's so funny that you would say that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Whenever I'm at a flour um, I'm like, so this
is when it happened. I got got it in here.
You know. No, that's not what I say. That's not
how we describe things.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's just a merrow thing, you know what I'm saying.
You think say you think this is water, It's not this.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, please, this is a completely allows. This has been
sponsored by Andrew Cuomo. He's like hanging out out here.
Ask him the cocaine question.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well listen a little too here and there.
All right, doesn't matter, it makes my nipples relax, Okay,
I'm just here. I'm not engaging. I'll do all the
engagement on that point. Just getting the low cuot mazrella
media engagement. Oh yes, it got me further invested in.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Policy, yes, okay, sidebar.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Politics is like a serious game, you know, what I mean, like,
you have to be creative, of course, but you also
have to be organized.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You have to have a high motor you know what
I'm saying. The other thing that you were doing on
the side, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Bro, like yo, just I'm just going, bro, I'm just
going non stop, stop, non stop, like I'm not hey, yeah,
ways me.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Handy b come he was doing none of that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
No, was it hard to beat a budding politician, young guy.
It takes a lot of energy to do that. Also
is not of energy to be top tier MC. You
know what I'm saying. Young Cardiman was.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Out in the streets, Young Cardivan was out in.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
These streets getting beat packs from everybody from Scott Center,
your absolutely the paper.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Dra was like, yo, I got you. You know what
I'm saying. We just had one of it. Just it
was just to try. And then Caramaut came took the
you know what I'm saying, crazy it work and then
you're frolling to end that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
My more beat stealing stealing, No more beat stealing. If
the producer says it's yours, yours, that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's yours. Can't be come on, it's yours, you know
what I mean. But a lot of people. Listen, I
represent the Bronx on the very you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm saying, or day, you know what I'm saying, he's
treating my kids out there.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Everyone. You gotta saying Captle Hills, I'm gonna suo that
you outside proxi. Yeah, Bronx size is valid. Bronchizes vllage.
You know, it's a different slights to the Bronx. They
had no faces, you know, y'all y'all had no face,
you know, you know, not long, you know, but but
then you did. I'm so benevolent, you know, generosity from
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a young age on, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So you know obviously, like I said, High moder, you're
the youngest candidate.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You know what I'm saying, a lot of people probably,
but you know what what I read that, I was.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Like, nah, fuck that, because you're the youngest candidate out
of this bucket of old wash motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know what I mean, you're thirty three. Yeap, That
is a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying,
that's grown ass man? Is my dad was bald already
at thirty three. Please don't say that. You know what
I'm saying. You gotta beautiful in the hair. I'm gonna excue.
This is my hair, this new era hair that I'm
wearing the next episode in Turkey. You know, let's go,
Let's go, or.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Maybe not, Let's wait in maybe maybe not. Let's wit
into Eric got is out here and we are paying
for that versus they're not paying. We're gonna invoice. I
gotta see all the paperwork, you know, that's what we do.
Everything is above board.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But what I'm saying, Victory's good, twice is good.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
We gotta jump twice as high to get to where
they got right.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Literary like like like litery like like you are outside
like as the kids say, you are outside fam you
one day you're on Fordham Road in the Bronx. You
know what I'm saying. Fordham, Daniel and Jackson Heights. You're
in Queens, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But your job is an opening Yes and City, Dream
City introduce. My brother and sister are both Bingaton Bearcats.
So I know that Albaning is twenty eight and a
half light years away.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
How do you manage to do your I mean, because
you do?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You up there working buzzing your ass, and then you're
also down here hitting the streets for real, like not
like just yeo, I'm gonna go to this mixer. I'm
like you in the trenches, bro like, at protests, at
like visuals whatever, like everywhere bro Like. I think I
said you were like a McDonald's driving through service people
like just.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Going crazy next week.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm telling you, So, how do you find time to
do these things and also stay on top of your job?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Unlike some people that's the mayors of New York. You
know what I'm saying right now, I'm not I'm just saying.
I mean, I'm doing the engagement here. No, this engagement
I can do. I can translate everything, you know what
I mean. Like you're thinking, I got telebraphy, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I mean it's it's it's tough man, you know, but
you you gotta find the hours because if you want
to lead a city of eight and a half million people,
you have to show them that you're ready to work.
And a lot of my life has lived on the Amtrak,
you know, like fifteen minute increments on a Google calendar,
Like I got to make it to moint ahead at
this time that I gotta get on the A train
and I've got to go over there. But that's what
New York City is. New York City is hustling, it's grinding,
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it's working your hardest. And I think what's so frustrating
is that people have not seen leadership that has matched
the grind of New Yorkers themselves. And at the very least,
you can show that you are trying right, you are
doing everything you can.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Camps here, that's barred.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's one hundred streams, a dead come on, fifty monthly
active lines?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Am I one of them?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Two of them. I got three phones, three users.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know, if you don't invest in yourself right, if
you don't listen to yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That will that part. I thought, this streaming money is free, excise,
it's not free, not in this economy.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
No, and this and listen it is eighty degrees today,
so that is like this this extra terrible nice like
you know, multi purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And listen again.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I talked about the high motor man and you said
it like you have to be You've got to show
New Yorkers that you're ready to hustle, You're ready to
throw down for them, You're ready to essentially be the
Josh Hart in the garden that is New York City
diving on the floor for loose balls.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Getting second chance. We rebounds like no property tax.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Ex Actually, you know we're not taking the James doing
economic approach.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
No, no, we're not doing that, you know what I'm saying.
But yes, we're doing a hustle.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Talk about that because there's a lot of people that
like are informed, but not informed. They're informed in the
sense of like, I know about this dude, Like he's intriguing,
he's exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You know, the young people is with you. I consider
myself a young forty you know. You know what I'm saying.
So I'm with you. You know what I'm saying, I'm
riding with you. The younger generation is with you.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
How do you get to those like entrenched older you
know what I'm saying kind of like like you know
I'm doing I'm an establishment guy.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know what I mean? This guy is talking about
a lot of crazies. He wants to freeze RNTs. He
wants a city owned supermarkets. That's crazy. What's next? Cavin
Milty on every corner. How's he going to do that? Now?
What do I say? Hey, it's not it's get gold.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know what I'm saying, for the window, how do
you convince those people like yo, these are things that
I can realistically accomplish, you.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Know, I think the first thing is you engage with
that conversation. You know, a lot of times in politics,
the impulse is to just write somebody off if they
don't fully believe at first glance. And you know, you
were saying Fordham Road. One of the first times I
went to Fordham Road during this campaign was to talk
to people who voted for Trumpet and to ask them
why did you vote and actually listen to them. And
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when you open a conversation listening instead of lecturing, it
allows someone to also engage with you in a different
way because a lot of these voters fifty and above,
these are voters who've been let down time and time again.
You know, just as much as we've been let down
by politicians, they've been let down that many more times.
And so I understand you've heard promises, and that's why
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it's my job to present the plan to actually do it.
So when I say we're going to freeze the rent
for two and a half million New Yorkers, I explained
we're going to do it through the rent guidelines board,
the mayor appoints all the appointees. We've done this before
under Deblasio, three rent freezes. It's time to do it again.
Landlord revenue is going up twelve percent. It's time for
that relief for tenants. And when we're talking about fast
and free buses, universal childcare, people ask me, how are
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you going to pay for it? And instead of laughing,
I'm offic said that's a bad faith question. I engage
with it because ultimately we have to pay for it.
And we put forward a plan to raise ten billion
dollars a year that would raise the top corporate tax
rate to the radical socialist utopia of New Jersey eleven
point five percent. We would match what they got over there.
Shout out to New Jersey for that one specific issue,
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very very tight shout out. And then we would raise
income taxes on New Yorkers who make more than a
million dollars a year by a flat two percent. These
are rounding errors are the wealthiest New Yorkers. That will
actually benefit them and every working class New Yorker by
making the city more affordable. And when you tell people that,
it starts to demystify because people have been told their
whole life. This is as good as it's gonna get. Right,
(18:12):
And if you want to keep.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
This, vote for me.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
If you want to lose this, vote for that person.
But what if this isn't enough, What if this isn't
enough to feed your family. That's what this campaign is
speaking to is a person who can't live off of
promise to say that you could actually have more than this.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That hits home for me because much like Eric Adams,
I reat in New York City, but I live in
New Jersey. At least you're honest. You know what I'm saying,
and I keep it funking shout out the front of
Lake you know what I'm saying. But one of the
most heartbreaking things I ever had to do was leave
the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Like I love the Bronx. I had a sense of
community there.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I had like friends and family and people that had
known for twenty thirty years. And when it was time
to like, you know, hey, we want to own a home,
we want to live somewhere and.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Say hey, this is a house. I'm gonna buy this house.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'm gonna pass it down to you and you and
you and you, and this hou's it gonna be in
a family for generations, which is not, which is I kind.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Of like the American dream, right, pretty straight forward, right,
pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Work hard, save up money, put down payment on the house.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Stability, stability, right, and if something goes crazy, borrow against
your house, do all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Two things.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Financial literacy in the Bronx is stagnant. It's terrible. We
gotta we gotta fix that. We gotta There's a lot
of things on it. But my main thing is making
what you're.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Saying about renfreezers and all that stuff, making home home.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Like living in New York affordable, keeps New Yorkers in
New York exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I mean, there are too many people who don't even
know if they'll be able to call themselves New Yorkers
next year, right, people who commute in from New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean every time.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It doesn't have to be that way, right, Like all
of my boys that I grew up with, when they
talk about settling down having kids, it's like the expectation
that's already there is long island moving, and that's that's
not the way it has to be in this city.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's funny that you said that because Fat Joe was
just like, yo, they call you Hollywood at the bat
dated and I was like yeah, He's like why, and
he's like, well, you got to move to New Jersey
because if you're from the Bronx, you moved to Jersey.
If you're from Queensy Brooklyn, you got to move to
Long Island.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I was like, is that it? That's like the formula.
But to your point, it's like it is. It shouldn't
be that.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
This is for the guys being called Hollywood at the
boat dat. Come on, this is to keep those guys
in their homes.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Come on, if you are living in New York City,
if I live in New York City, we are inspiring
the next generation of young New Yorkers, young creators, young leaders.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Come on, man, stay in New York, you know, and listen.
Let's let's get more into the Bronx a little bit.
The Bronx man, the polls. You're right in there, under Cuomo.
I really need the Bronx to wake up. I'm talking
to you like as a Bronx side. I'm talking to
y'all in the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I really need the Bronx. To wake up.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
How do you speak to those people? Because I took
theeople all the time. I'm like the guy that's driving
the twelve bus is not you know, he might want to,
but he might not have the time.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, he might get home.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
After a shift, have to take care of some kids,
have to do stuff around the house, have to pay bills,
do xyz. So there's not a lot of like free
time to research and do like, hey, let me learn
about these candidates, let me learn about this. People are busy, Yeah,
people have like people are like ty you said it,
like New Yorkers always on the hustle, on that Brian
like trying to get to the next thing. The Bronx
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especially is extremely working class. Those are the people that
are getting busted in to work here downtown, you know,
et cetera. How do we get the message into those people? Listen, zarn.
All the things that he's proposing are realistic. They're not
pie in the sky. They can happen. I ain't gonn
out of you. I was pissed off because we had
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for upk in New York City right before I move
to Jersey, bro like, right before I move, Like I'm
moving like I'm closing on the house and they're like,
for you pig.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I was like, now, y'all want to do this? Bro?
This would have kept me in the city. This would
have kept me. That's an extra twenty a year, Bro,
that would have kept in the city.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So things like that, how do we speak to those people,
the working class people, the bus drivers, the guy you
know slicing the deli meat. You know, you know I'm
do at the corner store, Jose, the bodega, you know
what I mean? Like, how do we convince them that
you are for real? You know, I think without the
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without I'm sorry, without this Because with these other guys
who like Forma, for example, they're great at branding, like yo,
let me bring like Yo, there's a bridge named after
my pops.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro's yeah, thank you,
Come on out of here.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Stop renaming shit. Bro, I don't even like RFK. Bro,
that's the timeborough. You know what I'm saying, cut it out.
But to the point those guys are coming in with
like branding and like smoking mirrors, how do you show
the people that it's like, Bro, that's not what I'm about, Like,
I'm about real action.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, we all about that action.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Boss.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Look, I think that it's it's a few things.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The first is right now we're in second place, like
you said, but still fifty percent of New Yorkers don't
know who I am.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They don't even know what this campaign is about. And
in some ways that is a challenge.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
In other ways, it's an opportunity because it's actually easier
to introduce yourself than it is to persuade someone to
feel differently about your right. We have one hundred percent
of New Yorkers know who Coomo is. He doesn't have
more than half of New Yorker's support. He's still with
that one hundred percent. Name recognition still at around mid thirties,
low forties. So that's an opportunity. And what we've been
doing is we've raised eight million dollars, the maximum you
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can raise in New York City mayoral campaign any other campaign.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Thank you, thank you. That's what two thousand donors, thank
you to you guys.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
That's what have the acronyms donated. You know what I'm saying,
it's just people full.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Names and not the Turkish governments of licty like.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
For example, today we're going up on TV as the
first campaign to have an ad on television, and that's
going to be playing during the next game to tell
people what our actual plan is to make the city
affordable and how we are in contrast to Cuomo cutting
public sector pensions, to Quomo cutting medicaid, to Plomo stealing
hundreds of millions of dollars from the MTA sometimes to
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subsidize upstate ski resorts, and making that contrast. So, I
think part of it is the same thing you're saying earlier.
New York is over fifty watching TV. Five million people
watch TV every day in New York City.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
How do we get to them?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
The other thing is, look, I grew up in New
York City Espanol, but I can try, right. So I
was out there with a friend of mine, line after
line studying. We made a video in Spanish. And what
this means is that a lot of our supporters can
share it with their parents, with their you know, with
their abuela, with whomever in their life. Because you have
to speak to New Yorkers in the language they speak in,
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in the medium that they're engaging in.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
As opposed to being like, why isn't anyone finding out
about us? You can't.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You can't feel bad for yourself. You have to actually
bring the case to people themselves, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Right and yo, Missus Martinez and Missus Martinez. Akay, Papa
and Mammy. They are writing with a right you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know what I mean? They're
locked in.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That might have to be the next video. Hey y'all,
U God, so you have up on your you know
that on your go, Lie, don't mean to go. You're
gonna flow. Don't forget that anything. They get it. They're
looking out. Okay, So won't think and flow? Okay anything
cord Ego by No York Shady. Okay, I see you.
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I said you have to start, Let's go. You know
what I'm saying. Uh, listen again, like we said, we
all know homie.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You know what I'm saying. Like his background is peddigree, YadA, YadA,
YadA YadA. Uh. You know there's a lot of Outer
Borough Italians with short term memories, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Like, how do we listen?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'm i'm a speak, I'm a i'm a I'm gonna
engage on this one. Joey Tony Listen, you don't want
to pay your higher rents. I know you don't, so
just want them.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's it. It's that simple, bro. Like when you talk
to people about their pocket they listen, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So Yo, Tony, Vinnie, Joey, all of y'all. Put down
the maga merch for a second. Think about where you live,
you know what I'm saying. Think about what your community
is like, and think about how your rent goes up
every year.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Every year, every year nine percent of the Adams crazy,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So now I'm a Jersey and I'm paying less on
my mortgage that you are for your two bedroom apartment
where Carmela is yelling at you and Michael Anthony.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Is down in the basement dune.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
God knows what you know what I'm saying, probably calling
me slumbers off Fortnite, you know what I'm saying. Tighten up, y'all,
you know what I mean. Like the future of New
York City is in your hands. Okay, don't fuck up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Speaking of that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Do you feel like that kind of like disconnect between
like the youth who you got in a frenzy, you
know what I'm saying, and like the older heads who
were kind of like either apathetic, uninformed, or are like, well.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't know about the Yeah, guy's name is weird.
I don't know, dude, I like a guy. Yeah. Give
me a guy with a regular lym like Joe or Bob.
You know, I mean like a you know, like a ex.
Give me a white guy.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
How do how do like? When you go to spin
to these older people, are you met with like? Or
is it or like? Do they receive your messaging way
they receive it?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It's just can I get in the door. If I
can get into that space, then I can have that conversation.
And that's where our campaign from the jump has been about,
give me an opportunity. We'll get in the door, even if,
especially if it's with people who don't like me, who
might even hate me. No, because so often politics it's
just a caricature, it's a cartoon. So when you have
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to engage with someone as a person, even if you
disagree with them, you can understand, oh, this person's not
actually what I thought they were. This person's not what
it was made out to be on page ten of
the New York Post, this person is someone who I
don't have the same agreement with but I know this
is a New Yorker who's looking out for the best
in New York City. And even you know, the other
day I was on a podcast with retired cops. We
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were chatting and I knew that we had disagreements, but
we were still talking through them. And that's what we
need more of in New York City. And that's how
we grew up in New York City. Right, some of
your closest friends are the people that you most vehemently
disagreed with. And yet now what we're trying to say
is that you know, either you're with me on everything
or you're against me on everything, and that's not how
the city is.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Ed coch said, if you agree with me on nine
out of twelve issues, vote for me twelve out of twelve,
see a psychiatrists. And that's what I've been telling people,
is there's room for this disagreement. Let's just make sure
we know it's actually grounded in humanity and a belief
in the city.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Listen, I'm gonna fill up a United Palace with Dominicans
and we are, We're gonna, We're gonna do something because
I got to play this with all the the theists uptown. Please,
you know what I'm saying, because you have three very
like kind of tent pole policies that you that you
that you're running on. Can you break them down for
the people, because this is what we're gonna show them
at United Palace.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
YEP.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So we have eight and a half million people living
in New York City. About two and a half million
live in rent stabilized housing. That means the city determines
if their rent goes up every year or not at all.
And that's done through a board called the Rent Guidelines Board,
nine members. The mayor appoints each one. This mayor called
himself real Estate. He's raised the rent nine percent, and
Draw Cuomo has become even closer with the Real Estate
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Board of New York and it's likely he would be
raising those rents as well.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
We've said when we look at.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
The facts, the median household income of these tenant households
sixty thousand dollars a year, the revenue phase landlords going
up twelve percent. We need a freeze, We need relief
for New Yorkers because look, when a lot of us
are working in jobs where there might be a raise
one percent. Two percent increase might not sound like a lot,
but a lot of these tenants are seniors on fixed incomes.
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There is no extra money that they can find. I've
had an eighty two year old woman come into my
district office in Astoria and say, my rent is now
double my Social Security and my landlord is filing for eviction.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Can you help me? And yes, we helped her.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
We spent six months to get every single city resource,
but that is not scalable city wide. We need a
systematic approach. So we're saying we're gonna freeze the rent
for those two and a half million New Yorkers, give
them that stability that they know this year is going
to be the same as next year. It's the same
rent check because for many of them, that's the same
thing with their own checks, their own salaries. They're not changing.
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Right across the country, inequality is going down. New York City,
it's going up. The second major thing is the bus.
We're talking about the VX, you know, the BX ten shoutouts.
We have more than a million New Yorkers ride the
bus every day. We have the slowest buses in the country,
average speed eight miles an hour, like you and me
walk fast up to a bus when I have missed it.
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I ran after the VX tent. I've been like yo yo,
and then they open up the door because it's so slow,
and like, I'm happy in that moment that it was slow,
But ultimately that's not a public transit system that's world class.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
We deserve one that is that's true.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Our entire existence is the bus has been so slow,
so slow that when Speed came out, I thought it
was a sci fi movie dog.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I was like, hey, buses don't go this fast, and
you're like a lot of worlds I could believe this.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, this, this is crazy. A bus going thirty miles
an hour. No way, this is no way. This is
not happen New York City.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
We like to talk about ourselves the best in the world,
and I love this city. But Bogoda moves forty thousand
people in an hour on a bus. We don't even
move thirty five thousand people in a day on a bus.
That's the that's the closest we get is the most
frequent in bus in New York City is barely that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So what we're gonna do is make buses fast. And free.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
And I've actually achieved parts of this as a state
assembly member. I won a fair free bus pilot program.
We made one bus route free in every borough and
then the BX with the BX eighteen to A and
I got to give a shout out to a Bronx
Assembly members Amanda Septimo, who is a big part of
actually making that happen. And when we did this, ridership
went up by up to thirty eight percent. Assaults on
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bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine percent.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Because you're arguing, y'all, well, just getting on, you're just
getting on you, I'm sure five cents nothing, you just
intern out.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
That's it, in and out.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And we saw the most significant increase in riders which
New York has remained twenty eight thousand dollars a year
or less. So economic relief, public safety benefits, accessibility benefits,
and finally environmental benefits because eleven percent of new riders
got out of the car they were driving, the taxi
they were taking, got on the bus.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So that's fewer cars on the road. That's easier for
you when you get out the lincol Tunnel. You know
what I'm saying to get around. Thank you, because more
people on the bus. I'm coming here to put dollars
in New York City. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Write it Down's barbecue, baby, mom, Donny the Commy coming.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
This guy wants free buses. He wants your apartments to
be freezing. That's what he says. He wants to freeze
your homes. He wants to freeze your apartments. Why would
you do that? Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I've done a lot of work in homes and apartments.
That's nothing of the blacks, but for people in general.
And I will say one thing. A warm apartment is
a happy apartment. Zorn Is Mom, Donny the Kimmy wants
to freeze your humes and your apartments. It's disgusting, sick
really when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, dog, if you think that you are out of
your mind, bro take your vitamins. Man, eat some bread,
b one. Yeah you know what I mean, multi g one,
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Listen, man, thank you for your time. I appreciate you, brother,
thank you for coming through.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
The city needs you. We need you, uh and I
need you to answer these questions. You know what I'm
saying I was like, where's that period? This is a
little segment, you know what I mean saying? This is
this is this is the best podcast. I don't even
call them podcast, but this is high level art. This
is a moment. This is a moment in New York.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
History right now because we've heard about burrito Gate.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what I'm saying, shot the Big Spence.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Got the Big Spence in the house? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Getting the candidates of one man deep throwing the burrito
for no reason. That's crazy work, bro, Like.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
How did you do that?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I gotta take you know, leadership is taking responsibility. I
posted that.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Photo see accountability to own up to that moment. New
York City two million people and that's what percentage of
New York City?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is that too too high?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's just like the.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So since we're looking at that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
If you you've got a burrito on the train, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I'm saying this, I'm saying it right now, you're the
next the mayor of New York City, as the next
man in New York City, what foods are permissible to
eat on the train. I'm gonna give you a list.
I'm not just gonna be biding friend on the top
of the game. You know what I'm saying, MC Carter
Bamba is as you know what I'm saying. A burrito
obviously is okay. Right, here's the key with the brito.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You cannot spill. You cannot spill to me. That's the hype,
that's the etiquette.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
You cannot eat on the because and you gotta be
there if you're in a rush, if you need to.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's where I feel like permissible.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, gotcha. So burrito's cool. A flat bullatsan culcho. You
know what I'm saying from the old lady on wan Eddie.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
First, I'm going to say, that's a no, that's a platform.
That's that's not this platform foods. There's not trained for this, Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
So listen, if you're in a third degree burn bullatsan colcho, bro,
that is for the platform.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Please, that's not for you to trip. That's not the
cue train.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah no, no, no, please don't do that. It's not
for the sixth trade. When it goes around to turn
for asta and you'd be like, nah, I don't do that.
Chicken and lamb over rice.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
This is a two part questions. I want to be honest,
I've done it real one. Would I recommend it? Probably not.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
But again, if you can, if you can hold yourself together,
if you don't spill even a grain, that's permissible. But okay, look, ultimately,
should I not have taken this photo? Now it ended
up in this food?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Listen me here now, you know, but you are an
accountable guy. This is showing acout ability. Got own.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You're showing that you own you know, you know your
mistakes or you know or it's just a part of
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But you're like, yo, I'm just like you train I'm
gonna eat you. That's it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Up next, same dish, chicken lamo, right, okay, but when
mad white sauce, no too dangerous, dangerous, that's that's a
little little you know. And then right on a baby
too much. Don't don't want that? Okay, take the backpack off,
put that down, out of here. Platform food, got platform food.
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This is a very as a Dominican, this is very
important beach uh dining for us spaghetti and a big
guy day at all Dominican spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know, Dominicus made these days different. It's not like
it's not it's not the you know, no, it's a remix.
That's not a subway food. That's not a subway for
to callot my man, kareem rama, What did you say? Disagree?
Do you agree?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You think it's some way for I'll spaghetti anywhere Dominicus
ea spaghetti on the beach.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That means Dominicans dominicus spaghetti. Though it's not a lot
of sauces in it, you know what I mean. There's
just a lot of tomato paste, you know what I'm saying.
So it's pasty, it's hard to still, it's dangerous, it's hard.
Do you under sad? I mean that's too liquid, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
So, okay, look I get it. After June twenty fourth,
let's revisit this. See, that's what this is, you know,
sensible dialogue. I don't want to be there in witness here.
This is what we want to bear witness to this moment.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
This is what we want from the Mayor of New York.
We're trying to baild dialogue. You know. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
A sushi platter from Christidis, Oh jockcats and meetings. I
used to call it when I was a hunter college Christili's,
you know, because I used to get free Lancher.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I mean allegedly, look look allegedly. But also they are
pricing their stuff way too high. It's a little crazy like.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
There is no better epitome of the price gouging and produce,
I think than with a lot of these Christidius joints.
Look Sushi on the train, as long as you don't
have the soy sauce. Gotcha dry sushi.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Dry sushi? You got dry sushi. Last two, that's the
next mixt sushi. Yo, try sushi. What I'm saying, l
you know what I mean. We're here, last one. Donads
beat the cue? Sticky wings?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh question, how get this happened? Hid? Think wings is
too far? Too far? What are you gonna do with
your hands and the bones after right? You can't just
be like, no, wipe it on somebody. That's crazy word etiquette. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Only flying, Oh they're flying?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No Yo, trying victory late Zorra my daddy, the next
man in New York City.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
We here, talk to your aunties, talk to your cousins.
Talk to your nephews, your nieces, your uncle's, your grandpa,
your grandma, Da Dy Theo, everybody. This man needs to
be the next man of New York City. We need it, Okay, Tony, Vinnie, Joey.
Remember what I told you, Michaelangelo. Michaelangelo, he wants to
freeze your rent.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
He wants city own grocery stores, man, so you don't
got to go to Ristini's and pay thirty eight dollars
for California roles.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Tell him. You know what I'm saying, He's got plans
that will make sense for us. You know what I mean.
I might be able to move back to the Bronx.
That would be the greatest day of my life.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Please let's make it happen. You know what I'm saying.
Victory like Zora my Doddy, next man in New York City.
We hear baby. You know what I'm saying, b X,
turn it out, turn it up, b X, stop playing
with me, or I'm coming literally like a victory light
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light like
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Mhm