Episode 136 | "Still Tippin" w/ Paul Wall & DJ.Fresh

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The was somepitionshout Ki Murder the Human du rect Flag
why because I keep it wavy. And today on Victory Light,
the number one show on the planet, we have two.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Very special guests that god that I mean. We have
Paul Wall, yes.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
The People's Champ, and DJ Fresh from Loyal to the Soil. Okay,
so we are talking about the careers longevity collaboration.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
How Vietnamese is Paul Wall? You know what I'm saying. Also,
why do eat the mdjs make more money than hip
hop DJs? Why? You know what I'm saying. That seems unfair.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Also a double tenfoil fifty y'all double you know what
I'm saying. So get ready you know what I'm saying,
coming for your head top Victory like stay right.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
There, Lictory like litertority, like like Joe that is.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
That was crazy, bro, because we was doing we was
doing some Peer of Brooklyn with Mellow and Man, we
was out there in Chief and he came through and
he jumped in the site for like two minutes, hit
the l twice.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Bro, I look back this fucking something to love seat
like this just taking a not real quick I was like, Okay,
I was like that's what they call rapper weed, and
this is what you call victory, like.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Motherfuckers, God damn it, it's your moore to care murder
the human direct flab in the building with my prestigious
call host Radio Viya.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
That rap God, yap God. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That But rap circles a right, your favorite m seat.
Except today we got two very special guests.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know what I'm saying. We had Dallas BBQ, but
we're not rapping down today.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
We rapping each time.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
And the motherfucking town baby.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know what I'm saying, Oh Flynn is in.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
The building because we got Paul motherfucking.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Wall dog a d J Fresh. You know what I'm saying.
I said that show like it was a radio drop
d J. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
Appreciate y'all being here. You know what I mean, Thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, this is amazing, bro, This is this is a
long time coming, man, because when you in particular, I've
been going back and forth with you on Instagram like
like showing love and ship because cause bro, both of y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Represent very distinctive regions.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know what I'm saying, like you in Bay, Oakland specifically,
you know what I'm saying. You in Houston, Texas, Houston specifically,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
And you know, a lot of people might think, like, Yo,
how did this come about?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Like how did y'all link up? How did y'all get together?
Because you over here, he's over here.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
The sounds the regions are very different, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yeah, different in a sort of very like insular, right.

Speaker 8 (02:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
So I had a theory. My theory was that DJ
Fresh projected an ice grill over the skies of Houston,
like the signal, like the bat signal. Paul Wall answered
the call.

Speaker 8 (02:44):
I was like, y'all, I'm out here.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, so how did that?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
How did that happen?

Speaker 7 (02:47):
How this link up happened?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Man? The Bay in Houston always has well just I
would say Texas in general in the Bay are very similar,
were very different, but we're very similar.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
We're similar, and that.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
We each have a lot of unique regional slang that's
unique to the region. We also are driving cities where
you put a lot of money into your whip. It
might be an old whip, new wheb, nice wheel, bad wip.
But no matter what, you're gonna have a looking nice.
You can have some bass in the trunk. You're gonna
keep it clean, even if it's raggedy, you know. So

(03:21):
there's so many different Plus we're independent cities whereas rappers,
you know what I'm saying. Texas is a state where
it's you know, we got Jay Prince, rap a lot,
we got Suave House, you know, Tony Draper, we got
all of the other you know, there's a thousand record
labels out of Houston, you know what I'm saying, that
all put out each artist. But it's the same way

(03:41):
in the Bay where it's our independent grind. You go
out there and get it, you know, and all you know,
we're outside of like even though we're major markets, we're
outside of the major media markets, you know what I'm saying.
So we support our own where it's very similar. In Texas,
you could make Texas music and have.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
A career in Texas forever.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
In the Bay, you can make baby music and have
a career in the Bay whatever.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
So it was very similar like that.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
But how we linked up one of my favorite artists,
Rich the Factor. He's from Kansas City, but he's he
gets a lot of love in the Bay. A lot
of people think Richis factors from the Bay, but he
gets a lot of love in the Bay. And him
and DJ Fresh had worked together from one of DJ
fresh tonight show series which will be just dropping. But

(04:27):
you know, and that's my favorite Richter Factor album ever.
Richard Factor is one of my favorite rappers.

Speaker 9 (04:32):
Him and Little Kiki are my two favorite rappers.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
But you know, when I heard that, it was like, man,
who is this? You know, who's making this production? That
was my first like real interest. I had heard his
production before, but I didn't know who he was. That
was my first introduction to know who he was. And
it was like, hey, I gotta find him. I gotta
work with him some type of way. And I met
several other like DJ freshes that you know, weren't him.

(04:58):
You know what I'm saying, it's somewhat you know, common name.
That's you know a few different DJ freshes, And you know,
every time I meet on, I'm thinking, is that But
I don't want to ask it wrong, you.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Know, Just so you'll know, all y'all watching the millions
that y'all watching right now, that's.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
The real DJ J Fresh.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
So is that is that what inspired you to put
the dot after the DJ because that's the only time
I've ever seen that.

Speaker 10 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (05:25):
I just I just came out that way in nineteen
and I just I just kept it.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, tell yourself.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
But you know, bro, because when you do the search,
you at the top. Yeah, the difference.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You mention something that that that that hit with me
because being New Yorkers, people always talk about Yo, y'all
got your accents? Is crazy, your slang is crazy. You
talked a lot about you to talk a lot about it.
You just mentioned the regional slang in Houston in the Bay.
Is there something is there like an New York slang

(06:01):
or word or term or phrase that always gets like
that ship's.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Funny, or like that's crew York say that?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Or like y'all bugging saying that ship?

Speaker 8 (06:10):
Well a lot of it, you know. I think this
is due to social media.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
A lot of the regional sounds or regional slangs have become.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Like just the internet, yeah, is going everywhere.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
So like like kids, we want to say what's up kid,
what's up something? But you might say that now and
he's what's up kid? But you know, it's not like,
what's good trying to sound like you from New York?
But if you just say that when I was growing up,
that's what are you trying to talk about?

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Now?

Speaker 6 (06:32):
You just used to say or we say what to do?
People say what to do everywhere. Now it's not like
you know, b.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
Yeah, time about yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
Myself saying, it's like a lot like I feel like
a lot of time I sound like Siri until I
meet somebody from somewhere else and they be like, yo, no,
your accent is crazy because as a brothers dude, like if.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Somebody bumping you or say some ship, Yo, what the
fuck you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Son? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 12 (06:56):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah t A l M yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
So when y'all collapse, how much like again like regional
sounds right?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
How much of me and each other where y'all like
do y'all do?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So are you thinking like, yo, I'm producing for Paul
Wall This is how Paul Wall rap?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Are you thinking fresh has this sound?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
This signature sound?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
This is how he produced, So let me adjust my
flows to that or was it like hey, bro, like
let's just get in there and.

Speaker 11 (07:33):
Cook yeah, I think this is too well, I think
it is. It's just two great people. He's great at
what he does and I'm great at what I do.
And you know, we both got well over ten thousand.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
Hours in this, yeah, of course.

Speaker 10 (07:45):
And so.

Speaker 11 (07:48):
I just I just made what I make, you know
what I mean, Just make what I'm making. Then I
send it to him, and then if it talked to him,
I always say, talk back, and then as he talks
to it, make up songs sending back, and then it
just keeps it it, just keep it going, just keep
it going, you know what I mean. Got way more
done then that's out. You know, we got albums done,
like we got catalog done, like.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
For real, you we're trying not to overthink it too.
You know.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
For sure there's somewhere it's like he might see me
be a I think you're gonna like this one.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
I mean, especially now that we've worked together so much.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
This is like maybe a fourth album we've done together,
you know what I'm saying, where it's like almost all
him and you know what I mean. So it's you know,
we really kind of got a good feel for each other.
But then sometimes it will be the one you least expect,
you know, just like, damn, I didn't think he was
gonna like that, you know or something. Sometimes it's with
me too. Sometimes it's you know, whatever I send back
to him. Sometimes it's the ones that I think, you

(08:39):
know how he might not like this, and you'll be like, man,
that one is crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Put this ball right here, because.

Speaker 11 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, there'll be certain beasts that I that I
kind of like, like, oh it's cool, you know what
I mean. But when he gets on it, I like
it better. I appreciate it more, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh, okay, yeah,
he gave it more life.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
I always say. Listen always said.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Like when as like when you're producing and you make it,
like you make a track or beat whatever, and the
rapper is like another instrument on that track. So they
could elevate it, they could break it down, they could
keep it where it's at.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But you know, you all got a very distinctive flow, man.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
You did you mentioned that that this this tape coming
out now is almost all DJ Fresh.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
It's all DJ Fresh and all me. This is the
first album I ever put out where it is only me. Okay, feature.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
First, but yeah, I wanted to get into more of
that like sort of wrapper producer, sort of symmetry, relationship, synergy,
you know what I'm saying, Like because a lot people
are doing a lot more of that now, like that's
coming back, you know what I mean, Like you got
like Larry June and Cardo, like you got like like
Mike and Tony Seltzer.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
So like.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
One of the benefits of this workflow as opposed to like,
you know how a lot of other artists do it
where it's just like, you know, it's the one rapper
and then it's like, you know what I mean, Then
it's like a gumbo of like you know what I mean, producers,
So like what's the what's the benefit of you know,
assuming both of y'all have worked in both you know
what I mean, in both pots so to speak, So

(10:19):
like what what's the benefit of working in this way
where it's just like the two of y'all.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
And to add to that though, I just want to say,
like when we was coming up, hip hop was like, yo,
DJ Fresh is producing this for Paul Wall, Like that's it,
Like djit premieres producing for nas you know what I mean.
Rizard's producer for Wu Tang Havric is producing for my
d that's it.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
And then it.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Became more like yo, who got the hottest beats? Like
let me get fifteen at the hottest beats and that's
my album, and not like Randy saying like we're coming
back to that, like Yo producer rapper Combo locked in
in the lab, yeah making magic, like yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Yeah, I think today's time.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
A lot of it is is you get a beat
and the producer makes and sends the beat, and that's
sometimes that's the end of their work. And then the
rapper raps on it. Then the engineer mixes it, masters it.
Then somebody else says, oh we need to cut it
down and change this or that, and the producer gets
left out of the final processes, you know, of the journey,

(11:20):
you know, And I don't know a lot of my
favorite albums and artists were from one or just a
slight few one or two producers like I used to
love still do Cash Money and Manifest was the only producer.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
He would get different musicians to play.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
He get Funky Fingers to play, get this person that
put you know, to play on stuff. But he was
the one producers everything right, right, So, I mean I've
always kind of enjoyed that because you get a you know,
a whole project where it's like a synergy and a
mix you know of you know, one vibe in the sound.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I just say, cohesiveness.

Speaker 8 (11:59):
It's more personal, you know.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
With us, we found a nice, a nice little bootprint
where he sends me the tracks, I lay some vocals,
I'll send it back to him. He'll run it, you know,
through analog, running through SSL, do this and that. He
might add some stuff, he might change the beat around,
do this or that, send it back to me, and
I might you know, change it. So we got like
a back and forth process. But to the end, I
mean at this point, like the Tonight show, like we

(12:23):
putting out, like even the album for that once upon
out like what the rotation is, when all the music's done,
he has the final say of you know, hey, what's
the order? Yeah? All right, this is gonna be a
cause he has that musical ear I don't have and
most people don't have, but he can tell, okay, this song,
you know, the the not just the bpm, but the

(12:45):
frequency of this song is gonna master the frequency of
that song or the flow of the album is gonna
be natural intend of being just bouncing all over the
place like ping pong. And you know even from the
all right, how long should the song be? Where should
it cut? You know, where should the next song start?
You know, all of that is like something where you know,
I leave you got full rang, you know what I'm saying, because.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
To the thing to me too, was like watching ship
back in the day, Like I watch old footage of
like rappers having sessions, right, and like the engineers there,
the producers there, whoever was doing backup vocals is there?
Everybody that's involved in this track is in the room
and able to say like in real time, like yo,
you know what I mean? Like yo, yo, bring that

(13:27):
up like a little bit, turn that down in this
bridge or whatever, Like how do y'all preserve that, you
know what I'm saying, Like doing it like digitally, right,
like going back and forth digitally? Or how much time
do y'all spend together in the studio? And on top
of that, like y'all a couple of tams deep already
the first time y'all met, what was that.

Speaker 8 (13:45):
Like the first time we met was like a few
weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Were you know, phone.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
Phone homies, you know Instagram. Yeah, but yeah, you know,
a lot of that is trust.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
You know. I mean there's like, I know, I know
he's more than capable, he's more than talented, more capable
and talent than I am. I know, I know that,
you know, but just knowing that trust of you know,
I definitely there sometimes where it's like, hey, for some reason,
this is I really wish this could be like that
or that could be like this, And sometimes it's a
I've learned throughout my career that I'm not always I'm

(14:20):
usually wrong. I'm not always right. I'm usually wrong. It
used to be I'm not always right, I'm never wrong,
but now I'm not always right. I'm usually wrong when
when to come to the music because my personal preferences
are for me. But if I wanted to sell and
sound good to everybody else, then I need somebody else
to save me from myself.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
So I'm the victim man because I had to learn
that shit the hall way too. Man, just like hey,
I think this is funny. He's just like, hey, bro,
we are producing a media product.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah yeah, are you gonna buy one hundred?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, we got to appeal to you know what
I'm saying, like exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
To Fresh's point, It's like, you know, when you got
somebody like that that understands sounds, you know what I mean,
and like sequencing.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
A music theory, I'm like you, I'm like, yo, that's
it's on fire. He's like, man, you should have put
the bridge here.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the courus.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
I like found better in minor chords on an ascending
scale appeal to more people. You know how much of
that is informed by the Internet, Because you know y'all
y'all both well over ten thousand hours deep. How have
you adjusted to be, like, you know, from from sort
of getting it out the trunk, which you probably still do.

(15:33):
It's just like now where it's like most people are
are engaging with and consuming music and media digitally.

Speaker 11 (15:39):
Yeah, I still like as technical as I can be,
I'm still emotion first to how it feels with me first,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
I like to keep the first or second take of things.

Speaker 11 (15:51):
After the first and second take, now you're consciously putting
it in like I'm trying to perfect it there and
you lose some of that some of that pizzazz or whatever.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, So like even when he like when he
sends me things back and I do what I do
to it and I send it back to him. Even
though I send it back to him, in my mind,
I'm thinking it's done, but I still like be like, well,
make just okay this record first, okay, this mix first,
before we before I move on, and if he has
something to say about it, then I try to find
a fine line. And just like I'm I'm not a

(16:22):
person where I'm like, man, this is how it's gonna be,
and that's how it's gonna I'm not. I'm not that
because I'm also too like as much as as much
as I know, I'm also open to other people's ideas,
especially when they're involved in the project. You know what
I'm saying, because just because of what I say, uh,
I may think it's right, it may not necessarily because
it's all perspective at the end of the day, you
know what I'm saying, and so but I also have

(16:42):
a formula, have a process, you know what I'm saying.
Like with this album, I ran all his vocals through
a through a SSL you feel me, and then ran
all the songs of analog tape.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
What's what's the X and song for the for the
dumb motherfuckers like.

Speaker 11 (16:56):
This is the This is a huge mixing console, the
one that was mostly using. I mean, to this day,
the two biggest mixing consoles is.

Speaker 10 (17:04):
A SSL and then the Neve. You know what I'm saying.
So every pretty much every.

Speaker 11 (17:08):
Album that came out of the eighties and the seventies,
even nineties was done on the S, s L or
the like.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
It's like a million dollar Conso I was gonna say,
okay to.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
Dumb it down even further from from my uncle here.
You know, the big ass mixer in every Timberland.

Speaker 13 (17:22):
Video or eighty thousand, Yeah, yeah, the ship that looked
like the.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Fun in the front of Yeah, bro, let's get that ship.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm like, Bro, ain't gona way.

Speaker 10 (17:38):
Y?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know it's a thousand bus.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Every early two thousands music video needed that scene of
it flexing because it used to like you could put
the knobs where they go up on their own.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
Yeah yeah, flying faders, Yeah, the flying faders.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Every fucking video had at least one shot of the
knobs going up.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Rap rapping.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Yeah, yeah, so this thing is like that.

Speaker 11 (18:04):
You know, so this thing like all those all those
things are tools though, you know what I mean, make
it sound like different, especially since everything is pretty much
digital now and I'm not like he can be using digital.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
I'm not one of those types of people neither like
you know, use what you use what you got.

Speaker 11 (18:18):
But this is just years and years and years of
just understanding my sound and understanding how things used to sound,
and just like figuring.

Speaker 10 (18:25):
Out how to do that now. But in my own
version or our own version, whoever I'm working with.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You know what I'm saying, literity like like like.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Literity like like like and speaking of sounds man like
again from the town.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know what I'm saying. Like, but.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
This tape like is not like people don't associate this
sound with like traditional like Bay music, like forty mac
Rae type.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Energy like Yeah, well I would disagree. I would agree
in that, but I would disagree in that out of
the music sounds like other Bay artists and those are
these are my those. I mean, I love mac Dre
of course I feeling myself as the jam for I
love you forty my favorite artists from the Bay is
the Jacker.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yea, my favorite Mom figures.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Shout out the Sea Bowl, shout out the hustler Man,
sim rapper room.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
The mom Figures. They have a different style of music
where it's very musical. Some of its sample the samples
in it, but you can't tell if it simple. You
don't know what simple it is. It's like, you know,
it's very mob is mob music, so you know it's
got the mom feel to it. So to me, that's
what I that's kind of what drew me to DJ
Fresh And even then when I asked them, like where
you're from, like from the Bay, it's like, oh, yeah,

(19:41):
I hear it because I don't hear the I don't
hear the hyphee sound or like E forty kind of.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
The boom boom back down here.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah yeah, don't here like like that kind of sound.
But I hear the mob music that I love from
the Baby Yeah. Yeah, very so.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Feeling Like the first go around, it's about feeling, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
Like I heard the singles, I still hit the fist
face to that.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah yeah, I still can't okay.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yeah, So it's definitely got that feeling sure yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Listen, man, uh, y'all been doing this for a long time, y'all,
y'all are.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Not We're not halfway done.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You're not halfway you're not even seeing the finish like
that really really just getting started.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
So like but like I said, y'all been doing this?

Speaker 6 (20:33):
How do y'all?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Because rap, in particular, man hip hop rapped is one
of them. I call it sports because it really is
like people treated like a sport because like recipes Osbourne,
he just passed away. But like rock music, no young
rock artist is gonna be like man funk that old motherfucker.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
But in rap, for whatever, for whatever reason, that happens
a lot. It just seems like it's like posed. That's
like oh, like you've got an exclamation, Yeah, you got
an expiration, or like you're too old to look like this,
dress like this, talk like this rap like rap at all,
and like yeah, it's just it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's crazy when y'all to have maintained your who you are,
you know what I'm saying throughout your career never like
like I want to say straight from you from who
you are, but like you never like try to do
the hot thing.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Ye know what I'm saying, what I call it a
pimp in your passion and like you never you guys
never straight from that back and and DJ for somebody
like you especially you kind of move like a like
a rapper because you got you got like you got
tapes of the Tonight Show series. It is bugged out
like to me, like you got you got Ray Kwon,
Jay Worthy currency, Freddie Gibbs, like Paul wall Like.

Speaker 13 (21:47):
It's like and like to watch you move. I'm saying,
come over here, I got something, ya know.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
It's just it's refreshing to see you know, see you
move how you move in a climate where everybody feel
like they just gotta what's the hardest BPM right now?

Speaker 8 (22:08):
What what key?

Speaker 7 (22:09):
What key is the is the is the top forty shy?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, I know that nobody's calling you talking about yo, Paul, Yo,
we gotta do sexy drill. Gotta get you in the
joint with cash Bab saying sexual drill pop.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
It and not that not that you are not capable,
but it's just it's you're not in a position where
like neither of you guys are in a position where
you feel like you have to produce drill or you
feel like you have to feature on like Ice Spice
Record or whatever.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
So yeah, and to close that loop, not only are
y'all relevant, but y'all are respected, which is what what
I was trying to get at initially is because the
youngest generation looks at you and it's like this dude
is an icon, same for you, you know what I mean?
So like and y'all respect the cities and like hip
hop at large. So what is what's what's the secret?

(23:00):
You know what I'm saying, because like a lot of
dudes man like I ain't gonna say no next, but
there's a lot of rappers run around making fools of themselves,
broke out here like use some social media, doing all
type of goofy stuffs to stay relevant instead of hey.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Man, like you know who I am.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
You know what I do in the booth?

Speaker 8 (23:16):
Yeah, here go?

Speaker 6 (23:17):
You know what I meaning?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Like, that's what you come to me for it, don't
come for me for antics?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
You know what I meaning?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Like?

Speaker 11 (23:21):
Wow, shit, I would say that I have this saying.
I say, the long way is the shortcut. And the
more you keep doing it, the more it'll keep working
for you.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (23:32):
What you put into it is what you get back.
But also understanding the seeds you plan today is not
the fruit you eat tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (23:39):
You know what I'm saying. No tree girls in one year,
you feel me, and just keep the store opening.

Speaker 11 (23:44):
They keep on buying, you keep on supplying. And this
is all therapeutic to me. So it feel good to
me first, that's my motivation. And then if it feels
good to me first, the chances already to feel good
to others as well, because it comes from the place
of theory, you know what I'm saying, and so and
you just repeat right for years and years and years
and years and years, and eventually it'll start compounding for you.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
You know what I'm saying, It'll start working for you.

Speaker 11 (24:07):
And I tell people, you know, if you can be
consistent for at least ten years, you're gonna have to
be at least consistent and persistent for ten years.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
You might you blessed if you get it in ten years.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Lucky if you get it in twenty years. It took
me thirty and it's right on time, right, you feel I.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Mean, God Simon is always right. Yeah, producing is a
little bit less out there than the dude rapping on
the jackey the vocalist on the track. So like, for you,
what's that secret, because like, you know, people look at
rappers like you know what I mean, like as like
like Rady said, like produce bro, like yo, you know

(24:45):
what I mean? Like, nah, that motherfucker let his leaves
is too wilton brow, like we ain't you fucking ahead?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
We're going over here, Which is crazy.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
That you that you like you framed it that way
because it used to be the opposite. It used to
be that I'm not even old enough to know this,
but I know my history the knowledge, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But like it used to be that.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
People would show up to the hip hop show for
the producer and then like whoever was empcing would just
get on the mic and then y'all would just pass
the mic around. But it was always the producer, you
know what I mean, running the show type shit. So like, yeah,
I think it's I think it's it's it's beautiful to
see that like sort of come full circle and like
sort of kind of shift back towards that I think.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
For me, A lot of it is I've never really
been addicted to the spotlight, you know, like a lot
of once you know, the spotlight is like a drug.
You know, all the fame is like a drug, and
I was, I don't know, I've never I've always kind
of stayed out of bout like a little bit or
you know what I'm saying. I do my feet a
little way.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
I'm doing what I love to do. This is what
I prayed for since I was a kid, still praying
for still. So the gratefulness this is in my heart
to be able to do something like that, like to
do what I love to do. I don't take it
for granted. So there's some of it there where I'm
always trying to improve. Noted, if you stay in shape,
you don't have to get in shape. So some of
that is a lot of rappers in general, you know,

(26:06):
or just artists. You know, you you have ups and downs,
you get major deals and then you're independent, a major
deal independent some artists it's hard for them when they
go from being platinum to now you're independent and you
show five thousand in the first week.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
That's like a flop or failure to a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
But I came from the independent.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
World where five thousand out the trump.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Out the trunk, everything yourself. You're in control. You don't
have you know, powers to be telling you make this
kind of music, do that kind of music. Some of
it's good because they for sure can orchestrate some hits.
So like a big part of my you know, catalog
is Man, I'm not mad at it at all, but
you know where I came from was where you're more
as an MC, you're more raw. There's respect for the DJ.

(26:48):
The DJs are what put me on my era of
generation or artists. We all came out from DJs to
put us on. A lot of that has kind of disappeared.
A lot of DJs produce as well, you know what
I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah,
of course, But you know, just just recognizing and knowing
also that I can't choose what other people like. Sure,

(27:12):
you know, all I can do is put my best
foot forward every time I step and do what I
feel is best. I'm trying not to overthink a lot
of it, you know, I try to stay positive and
everything I do, I know it can all be gone
like that in any minute, you know. And I know
people love you today, hate you tomorrow, and leave you
again to hate you again. So you try not to

(27:32):
keep it, keep it thick skin. You try not to
take some things you see too personal. There's definitely been
times where my first record deal was somebody who laughed
at me when I gave my demo tape, and then
later on ten years later they signed me. So you know,
and this is you know, a close close one of
my closest friends to you know, in terms of like
the industry, like he he was my big brother that

(27:53):
really taught me a lot.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
Of the game. So you know, some of these times,
you know, you see, my name is Paul.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
I'm named after Paul in the Bible, who was slid
at first, who was the number one hater of Jesus
and turned again into the number one supporter. That my
name is a living testament to not take it too personal.
If somebody don't like it, they don't like you today,
they don't like you know. If I meet somebody like
who you, I never seen you, well let me tell you,
let me talk about that. You don't know me, like

(28:20):
you know, everybody don't know Taylor Swift, you know, so
why would everybody just know me?

Speaker 10 (28:24):
You know?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
And I also on top of that, I grew up,
you know, having a low self esteem or I never
was like, yeah, I'm the guy, I'm the man, you know.
I've always been been like just grateful to be a
part of the crew, you know what I'm saying. So
when I came up in the game, I'm I'm coming
up passing out flyers. I was DJing and rapping the
whole time. My dream, dream drive was to be a DJ,

(28:47):
you know, but I'm passing out flyers. I'm putting up posters,
bringing vinyl to the you know, to the DJ, doing
all promo marketing.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
So me being a part of the team, I'm I'm
happy with whatever my role is.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
So now I'm like, now I'm like the you know,
the owner of Dallas Barbecue who might have started off.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
As the dishwasher, who they start off as a disshing.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
The next thing you know, they're a server, or next
thing you know, they're a host and none of they're
a managership leader. Before you know they own the company.
But they can go and do every single job here.
They know how to you know, take out the trash
for whatever. Do you know a lot too. It's a
lot too. And then they have to be done anything
they get right, so and everything that needs to be
done needs to be done. So some of that is
you know, with music career, there's a lot that it's disciplined. Yeah,

(29:30):
some of it for me, you know, I definitely took
a step back from mark, like when we came out
of our major deal and we like as like I said,
we came from independent to major our goal. Like, I
never ever saw myself as once I got a major deal,
I'm gonna be a major artist for life. I always
kind of felt like this is gonna be an error

(29:50):
that I'm living in, This is gonna be a time
period I've just run. But eventually I'm going to go
back to being independent. And when I and I had
a benefit of when we signed our major deal, I
already had a few and I had tons of mixtapes out.
But in terms of albums, I had a solo album
called The Chick Magnet. I had an album with comedian
there called Get Your Mind Correct, and then we put
out an album called Controversial Self. So I had three albums.

(30:11):
There were actual albums, not do mixtapes, but albums.

Speaker 14 (30:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
In story, so when I signed my major deal and
the People's Champ comes out, everywhere you go, there's.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
The people Champ, but there's also chick, right Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
And I always felt like, Okay, whenever my major run
is over, I'm oh my catalog, right, so that whenever
we come back around to another major deal situation, all
the you know, the rise and tide gonna lift all
of Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
I just want to say real quick, I couldn't resist man, listen.
I was born in nineteen ninety three. In two thousand
and five, I was twelve years.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yung bro in two.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
In two thousand and five, I was twelve years old.
Goodie Mob, Nelly, Kanye, Slim Thug, Mike Jones, three six Mafia,
and the most underrated Paul Wall feature ever, My Champion
fucking Daddy. Oh yeah, come on, dog.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Like So it's it's crazy that.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
Like that you speaking of like longevity and then like
sometimes it's gonna be up, sometimes you're not. Sometimes we
made just sometimes the Independent and it's just so dope
to see like how you you both of y'all are
a living testament to how wrong and how just sort
of like how juvenile it is to treat rappers and
producers specifically like they gotta stay on forever or oh

(31:38):
such and such flopped, such and such fell off, like
people don't understand like we really do this. So it's
like there is no falling off, right, you know what
I'm saying, because stop it exactly.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I remember, you know, when I was promoted, This was
like maybe around two thousand, so you know, I was
born in eighty one, so I was learning. Around eighteen nineteen,
I still was rapping with Switch House, had an underground career. Yeah,
but I remember are artists, local artists, signed a major
deal and I remember him being like, yeah, I made it.
And you know that's when his he's somebody I used
to see, you know, promoting passing out flyers. When I'm

(32:09):
passing out flyers, he's passing out his own flyers as well.
Then he gets a deal and I remember him being like,
like kick back, he ain't got to work no more.
He got the deal, and I remember thinking like this
is the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
You know.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
It's like just the sports when you think about how
much work and effort goes into you know, somebody when
they're in like the AAU stages, then they go on
to you know, high school and college, it's a whole
different level of work. Then when you go from college
to the NBA, that's when the work is like unbelievable
next level. So you know, at no point that have
I seen somebody get drafted in the NBA and be

(32:42):
like I've seen it, but they don't usually last fact,
Goat's not gonna do that.

Speaker 8 (32:49):
Or the people that I you know, and some of
the people that I love.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
You know, in sports, they might not be a goat.
They're just somebody who played for a long time and
I enjoy watching him play, you know. So that's you know,
sometimes too, we have a tendency to you're either at
the top or you ain't.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Ship. Yeah, that's right, and it's like the extreme.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Yeah for me. So all of my favorite artists are
all underground, all mostly independent, you know, for most of
their careers, you know, and the way it was done
that's like how I want to do it. I don't,
you know.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
I enjoyed, for sure being on Amazing label.

Speaker 15 (33:20):
But I don't want to be on there for Elvin right,
you know, Yeah, I'm cool with the cycle because the
one thing they tell you they don't tell you either,
is like cause it's listen, music and TV and film
is equally nasty.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying, because like, they will get
you when the game is fucked up, because they will.
They'll they'll get you, and they'll say, hey, Paul, you
eighteen years old, man, you got this tape.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Hey you're a freshman.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Y'all are a fire group.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
Here, here's a million dollars and you coming from.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
When you come from You're like, yo, hell yeah, a
million dollars. Bro. But then Victor Or He's like, that's
a loan.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Yeah, exactly right, that's a loon gang.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You're gonna have to pay that back.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
I tell young artists trying and I say young, not
in age, but young, and how they are in the game,
like how many years of having a game? I tell
them all the time, like this game will break your heart,
especially if it's somebody like me where I love.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
I love music so much, especially rap music.

Speaker 9 (34:21):
When I was twelve years old, I took my whole
city collection and take collection of all my music and
throw it away because I felt like I love this
more than God and I feel like, man, if I
keep loving this music the way I do, God is
gonna punish me some way.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
So God put on I through my whole. I remember
Comedian that was mad.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
He was like to me, but I was like in
classic school tam Yes, at the time, it was like nah,
because if I give it to somebody else and I'm
not getting.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Rid of it, you know, I gotta shit myself of this,
you know.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
But you know, so when you really love a game
that much, you know, you're hopeful you have a you know,
you meet people. You know, I want it to be
a good deal. I want to believe the lives telling you.
And you realize that men, this person don't care about me,
nothing at all, about my family nothing. They really would rather,
you know, some drama happen so they can use that
to promote or this.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know, it's just looking at the bottom line by
how many units yourself.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
And I'm gonna tell you something that J Prince said this,
and this always stuck with me. He said, people think
you can't do business with a snake. Oh, that person's
a snake. I ain't doing business with me a snake,
but you can deal with a snake you just don't
get too close to get bit. You can, you can
deal with it. You can do business, but you gotta
know what you're getting yourself into. You gotta look for Okay,

(35:35):
this person is a little sneaky, they're gonna be doing this,
They might do that, but you really, you know, to
protect your own mental you really gotta look at that
with every deal, every whatever you got, good look at like,
you know, whatever they're telling me is one thing, but
what does it say on the paper?

Speaker 8 (35:49):
What does the track record say?

Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I always look at how they you know, my
boy Marcella's widely say this talk my sports. How they
treat the next person going out is how they gonna
treat me going out.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
So when you see you know, the artists who've been.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Around the label for a while or this and that,
you see how they're on the end of the deal
and they're they're treating how they're talking to us about
that artist behind that artists back, it's like, well, damn,
this is how one day they're gonna talk about us.
Do us So you can't that don't mean stop making music.
You know you're playing in the NFL. Yeah, you're gonna
get hit that don't mean you stop playing because're gonna
get hit. You just try to dodge get hit.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
A little different helping or something, you know what I mean, equipment.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Of literity like.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Literity like like I want to ask you what is
one of your favorite all time collapse?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
And then I gotta follow up question, but I want
to hear.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
That first, no doubt my favorite all time collab. Well,
there's ones that I love because other people love, like
Kanye West, dry Slow of course, of course I love it.
The opportunity that he gave me to be on there,
that was you know, ord nearly of course, you know what.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's all of me and grills.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
To my people. But you know my also you know,
figuring Lanti, my collab with a Shanty or I got
collabs with a lot of hip hop greats. But for sure,
all time favorite gotta be with Scott Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, that's another unexpected you know what I mean, that's Peter,
a bunch of jelly people. The first one's that put
it together, Like I don't know, I don't know what
damn delicious, you know.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
Scott so French, what about you?

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Your your your favorite or not?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Not necessarily favorite, but a collab that really you like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Besides, you know what I mean,
Prisident Company.

Speaker 11 (37:33):
Yeah, definitely definitely me and Paul I'll say me and
Paul wall and then also me and Currency, but I
gotta put Wiz in there too, Uhury.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Currency is a fucking machine.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
B He's like a machine.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
And if I feel like he's one of those dudes
that if you not really if you're just like a
casual hip hop fan, you might not know about him,
but he's like one of them, one of them ones,
like like a rap a spider.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
He was one of the He was one of the
first people like that pif Era, like the blog era, like,
he was one of the first people that I saw
that was like dropping whole tapes like a month.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I'm like, god damn, Like there's twenty joins on that bro,
and then all sweat like all go crazy.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
So yeah, Currency is definitely one of I want.

Speaker 10 (38:17):
A few of them.

Speaker 11 (38:18):
I mean as far as whole albums, yeah, I will
say me and Paul Walla's albums our work because it
just it just comes so effortlessly, you know what. I
can sit him a brother at this time, you know
what I'm saying, And so just just the hat because
it's it's deeper and wrap.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
We talk about God. We talked about all kind.

Speaker 11 (38:35):
Of stuff, so that too as far as collective that's
collapsed mean words of power as well the energy, but
definitely mean currency and whiz. And I'm gonna say, uh,
I got a song with a Don Tolliver to his
Askma song, a song called No Poe.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
It just went diamond to race a God.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know what I'm saying, congratulations.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
And that is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I'm saying, Yes, I mean for the for the for
the Spanish on this.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, what was that? Tim?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Timmy ten ends?

Speaker 6 (39:13):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (39:13):
Yeah, that's and that's units sold, right, So.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's that's like ten nearly motherfuckers when it was like
ten millions right right right right?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So like what I'm saying, like about the communities of
like y'all are you know, very representative, Like people think
of Houston and thinking poor Wall, they think Debate.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Did think of you. You know what I'm saying, like,
what how important is it for you as a DJ?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Especially right because you know you're doing parties like you
do you're producing and you're a DJ man, like you
set in the tone at the function, at the at
the festival whatever you're also producing.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
How important is it to be like present in that community?

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Like, Yo, I can go see Fresh you know what
I'm saying at the local spot, like you know what
I mean. Like he's still like accessible to us. You
know what I mean, that's from here. Yeah, how important
is that to y'all?

Speaker 10 (40:05):
Well?

Speaker 11 (40:05):
My story is a little different because I was born
in Baltimore, Okay, right initially, and then I did the
back of I did the Tupac thing from Baltimore for
like all the way up until I was around seventeen.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, people, you know, strong as cultures man, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 11 (40:21):
But you know one thing, uh uh Mad Dre had
a manager named a q O. Kirk And I'm at
Mad Dre one time and he was he was like,
he was like Fresh, whatever you do, don't lose.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Oh Clay, right, That's what he said.

Speaker 10 (40:39):
But it's important just like you know, you don't never
forget the soil.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (40:44):
So even though like I'm not like I live in
Las Vegas now, I just moved a been there like
like a year. So you always want to stay rooted
in the soil, you know what I'm saying, Like, you
always want to stay ruded or tapped in with the
people who he was functioning with. I always, I always
moved like pretty to myself anyways. Just that's just my story.
I've spent time out here in New York. I spent

(41:05):
time in Virginia, I spent time in l A. I
spent time in the Bay, Sacramento. Now I'm in Vegas.
But I'll never forget the you know, I'll never get
the It's kind of like when Po said, well, posit,
he was born in I want to say New York,
in Brooklyn, New York. Yeah, when he moved to Oakland,
he gotta he gotta sell.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
He's claims the word.

Speaker 10 (41:25):
I'm gonna claim Oakland.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
He was born there.

Speaker 11 (41:27):
So I still I resonate with the The Bay is
always in me. The way I talked, the way I moved,
just the way I just navigate this earth.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Bro if you would have told me you was born
from Baltimore, I would have been like he was born
and raised Broly cousin.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
But yeah, like everywhere, every everywhere, everywhere, I go, I'm
a Bay Destrian, you know what I'm saying about, And
that's just what it is.

Speaker 7 (41:51):
Yeah, and let's get into the importance of community events
keeping the essence and the feeling alive, because you're saying,
like earlier you said, uh, if they keep lining up,
it's your responsibility sort of to keep supplying. So like
the same way Paul was talking about, you know it's
going to be it's gonna be highs and lows, right, So, like,
what does that look like for the DJ producer? Right,

(42:12):
because for the rapper it looks like major then independent,
But you don't it seems like, at least to my
not to my breadth of understanding of hip hop as
a whole, it seems like producers get left out of
the major conversation. You know, it'll always be like, oh
like such and such, Oh that's a hot beat, but

(42:33):
like who is this rapping? Like I'm trying to sign
this rapper because beat because of that beat? Right, So
it's like, how do you navigate sort of sustaining a
career despite the industry sort of like leaving producers out
of the conversation.

Speaker 10 (42:49):
Well, I don't know, Like I built my own home.
This is my house house.

Speaker 11 (42:55):
Yeah, I run my house the way I want to
run my house because I've created my own lane essentially.
That's why I say the long way is the shortcut.
I got two hundred projects under my name on the market. Incredible,
over two thousand songs, you feel me. And so I
built my own house on my pedigree. I customize my
own steps, you know what I'm saying. So, like I

(43:16):
don't need someone else to keep my lights on it.
I appreciate we can always collaborate and do all that
other stuff, but like I'm my own competition. If you will, right,
you feel mean if longs I keep longs, I keep
on going, It's gonna keep on going.

Speaker 7 (43:31):
Yeah, And how important how much of that is informed
by showing up in person? Because like everything is so
digital now, everything's on the screen, and it's like as
long as you buzzing on the screen, people think that
you up, you.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
But it's like now it doesn't work that way, Like
you gotta get people to show up for you physically.
So like I think it's it's beautiful to see that
still like out the trunk mentality, you know what I mean?
Like how much of that plays into the house that
you built for yourself and hip hop.

Speaker 11 (43:59):
Well, I'm definitely more on producer these days and doing parties.
I don't really do parties anymore. I could actually just
retired doing touring. It was tearing up my body, you
know what I mean, Like, I can't do both. I
can't stay in the gym and I can't be staying
in I go to gym six days a week. You know,
I have certain things that keep keep me going at

(44:20):
one hundred percent, you know what I'm saying. And in
order for something to succeed, you got to sacrifice something.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
You can't have it all.

Speaker 10 (44:25):
You try to have it all, you usually use lose
it all, you know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (44:28):
So, but again I built my I built my business
and foundation on just being consistent with dropping music, Uh,
learning more all I say.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
I always say you earn more when you learn more,
you know what I'm saying. And so we do live
in a.

Speaker 11 (44:43):
Digital age now where it's like, you know, as long
as you stay consistent, like it was a lot harder
to just reach the masses of people, you know what
I mean, which is it could be a gift and
a curse.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
You know what I mean, But it's not broke, so
I ain't gonna fix.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, so Paul Man, like you know, the people's shamp
you know what I mean, for a reason, You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Every time I look up, something's going on in Houston.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You there, there's some capacity, Bro, Travis Skot having a
softball game.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Paul Waller, you know what I'm saying. Like so if
the All Star Game is there, you there.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (45:17):
Anytime it's Paul wall because it says wall on this fact.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So like to talk about that because like you like
like you you born like again, born to raisin Houston,
like but rapping it to the fullest, bro.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
Like se Yeah, some of that is you know, it's
how you represent when you're outside of your city. I
had a you know, my my my upcoming in the
game was a little different.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
You know.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I came up in an era where Wrap a Lot
was the mainstream of Houston, like they were the big dogs.
I mean mainstream in a positive way. They were the
big dog. Then the screwed Up Click was the underground.
And then there was a Swisher House, which you know
was like a North Side version of the south Side
school click, you know. So to the south side we
were copycats, you know, we were all out of fake screw.

(46:01):
To the north side, to some of the north Side,
we were that as well. But even on the north Side,
when I came into the switch House, Shooth Thug is
the boss.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
He the topped out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
So, and there was a whole maybe fifteen to twenty
other Switch House artists. So for me to carve a
lane for myself, it was the list was long in Houston.
The line to get in the door in Houston was long.
So what I did was I hit the road. I
went to Dallas, Wartworth, you know what I'm saying, went
to San Antonio, Austin the Valley, went to Passo, even

(46:33):
went to Louisiana. We're like everywhere. But I mean a
lot of people in Houston come from smaller cities, you
know what I'm saying. And I just named big cities,
but a lot of the smaller city surrounding cities like
you know, like Huntsville or Conroe or you know an
even like Lufkin, Longview, you know, and Acadotius.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
These are like East Texas cities.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
You know or like some of the smaller, you know cities,
you know, they come to Houston or we go there,
or you know, my neighbor that I grew up with,
his cousin, his grandma's from you know, Nacadelcia, So you know,
to you know, it was almost seen.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Like in Texas, it's almost.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Seen like if you got like, you know, a descending
I don't want to say ancestors, descendants, but like if
your grandma from the country, yeah, oh you legit Texas,
you know what I'm saying. But if your grandma from
the city, and it's like you ain't real texts. So like,
so I grew up, you know, always looking up to
some of the smaller cities in towns, even though there's

(47:32):
maybe smaller, those are you know, those are the places
where they're like real people, yeah, living realize that show
you love or you know, and it's and you know,
think about it. In the city, we got every major
artist every seven days of the week coming through performing,
you know, so you get kind of spoiled when you
know it's Beyonce one night and then you know it's
this person that for the next thing, you know, it's
you get a little spoiled when you go to them,

(47:53):
you know, smaller towns, you know, you don't know.

Speaker 8 (47:56):
So for me, I had to get love in the
outer cities.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Then eventually it trickled down to Houston when people from
Really it was, I I gotta say, really the majority
of it came from Dallas Fort Worth.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
Cause a lot of Dallas Fort Worth they showed me
so much love.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
And when they came to Houston to go to college,
you know, TSU U A.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
They from Dallas. And then you know they're like, oh,
we listen to Pawa Wall and people that from Houston
are like, we don't.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Listen to Parawall. We listen to Scrittal Click and they're like,
well shit, we listened to Parwawall. So they was bet
for me so hard. They the people from Dallas Fort Worth,
they really the ones that put me on in Houston.
You know, they're just showing me love. So now it's
a little different. Now I get you know, of course,
I get. Of course I get love in Houston now,
you know what I'm saying, of course, But you know,
like like Mike Jones say, back then, they didn't want me.

(48:42):
Now my all on me.

Speaker 8 (48:45):
A lot of sustaining and keeping.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
You know that love is realizing, not holding it against
people that they didn't, not holding against every person in
the city cause they shit on there. You know what, Like, hey,
I'm I'm grateful that I get the opportunity to get
this love and my own city always that's what I
always wanted, a hometown glory, so you know. And then
in the community, of course, giving back is that's what
it's all about. It is how you treat people when

(49:08):
you're up. There's a lot of people when they're on top,
they shit on you. They reminds you that you shot
it on them. I didn't do that, you know, the
people that shot it on me, I didn't like, hey,
you remember that time you did that. I didn't do it.
I didn't keep a list of everything. Everybody get me wrong.
I just let it go, leave it in God's hands
and just do what I do, what I learned to do,
what you do. And then being in the community, you

(49:28):
have opportunities to give back, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
You see that.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
You know, even when we were major artists, you know,
we would do certain things, go certain places, and a
lot of it started for me even before that when
I was coming up in the Swish House, or even
before I was wrapping in the Swish House. They used
to do.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
You know, we used to have this thing called the
Toss Test in Texas where.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Everybody in like sixth grade you gotta take the Toss tests,
and everybody in the eleventh grade or whatever, you know, you.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
Gotta take a multiple times test.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
So you know, you do these things where it's like, okay,
it bog Ran c Michael five thousand watts and then
a few of us from the Swish House. So we'd
go to like Eisenhower High School, Fallbrook, you know, all
these different high schools. They were like, you know, uh,
you know, it would be like okay, if you pass
the Toss tests, then you know it's a Swish House
pizza party, you know, and you know it would be

(50:17):
Michael wash Run. We'd be there like the rappers, but
nobody knew who we were really like that, but it
would just you know, just something that incentivized them to
show up on Friday for the test, you know, or
to motivate them to pat to want to pass the test,
you know. And then my boy good, who's my manager now,
like he used to be he for a teacher at
school and the same thing we you know, go to
different schools, or he'd have a homeboy or something like

(50:39):
this person that person they.

Speaker 8 (50:40):
Grew up with who kids go to school. Hey, man,
you know, let's go over here and do like a
little thanks for the kids.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
So we do that all that. My mom was a
teacher as well for thirty years. You know, doing stuff
in the schools is like it's really important. It's big.
And then you know, you see other people who have organizations,
like a good friend of mine, Miss Parker, she has
an organization, Parents Against Predators, and she's just somebody I met.
She just came to Johnny's one day and it was like, man,
I've been trying to reach out to you. I got
an organization. I need help.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
I just need help. I don't need any money. I
just need help getting the word out there.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
I just I got all this from the city and
it's from that, but I need somebody to kind of
like put the megare right. Yeah, yeah, you know. So
when you had that opportunity, you know, to help an
organization that's gonna help, well, of course, why not do it?
You know, And then that turns into yearly backpacked drives,
yearly Christmas giveaways, and of course being a partner with

(51:29):
Johnny Dang, he is well, you know, he has a
hell of an incredible, amazing American dream story of how
he started in Vietnam and then you know, immigrated to America.
You know, this whole story is so inspiring that he
gives back all the time. Now, let me tell you,
Johnny came from a village there's no water, no electricity,

(51:51):
you know what I'm saying, Like, food is kind of scarce.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
So if you had it tough.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Growing up in America, it's hard for him to be like,
oh yeah, you got it tough, tough, ye So you know,
but at the same time, he still has empathy for
other people who are trying to come up, so you know,
it's important for him for us. So for twenty plus
years we've been doing the same thing, backpack jobs, Christmas giveaways,
all of that, you know, sponsoring kids to go to
school or this and that, you know, and the majority

(52:18):
of it. You know, one of the things in the
Bible they say is you know, when you give with
the trumpets, that's your reward the trumpets and everybody know,
you know, but so I've always been taught like, man,
you know, when we do things, it ain't for the
world to see the people who are trying to help.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Just to do good, yeah, just to do good.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
And then we got so many sponsors.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
We got so many sponsors will come to them and
a lot of times they'll be doing things, you know,
for whatever, there's a flood in Texas right now, central flood,
so they'll be like, hey, we want to help out,
where you help us help out?

Speaker 8 (52:48):
And of course, of course I help out. And what
tends to happen is you see a.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Lot of you know, rapper activists or like give back specialists.
But what they're doing is it's Dallas Barbecue saying, hey,
I got ten thousand dollars I want to give. I
got all these backpacks toys I want to give. Would
you host the event the rapper I come host the
Rapper commst event.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
And the news puts it out O hundred thousand.

Speaker 8 (53:17):
That's what that's.

Speaker 10 (53:19):
Like.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
The artist, it's not coming out of their pocket, it's
coming at somebody else's pocket, and they're getting the notoriety
for it. But the notoriety is it's kind of meaningless.
Like I mean, sometimes it can be good when we
build on that. You know, we're like, okay, we want
to now now people know that, oh or you got
a program. Oh well I got this, let me support
your program with that or that. You know, like so

(53:40):
it can't help that way, but yeah, it's you know,
it's what is the purpose? Why are we doing this?
We want to help. We're not doing this so the
world can think I'm the greatest guy ever. I'm cool,
you know, because I gave back. Now we're doing this
because we want to help, and a lot of the
people were helping. I've been in that position. I know
what that feels like. You know, so you don't want
to feel like a Aarry case. And that's so we

(54:01):
tell them, man, we're not.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
This is not a Charry.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
We're doing this to help you. I've been here.

Speaker 8 (54:04):
I don't want to inspire you.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
I want to help you know whatever. But you know, uh,
some of it is you know, tough, because it turns
into every artist is doing something, so then they're like, oh,
when are you doing something? Are you doing something? It's
like we're not just twenty things already this time?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, like the band Yeah yeah, yeah. It's also not
a competition.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
Yes, that's the thing is, it's not a competition.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Lity like like, lity like like like.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
You mentioned Johnny.

Speaker 14 (54:34):
Dang.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
You know what I'm saying. Guy, You're a guy.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
You've been collaborating partners for a long time, my collaborator,
partner for.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
A long time.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Vietnamese icon men training, you know what I'm saying, Like
you've hung out with You've been in partnership with john
with with Johnny for so long that there's gotta be
some Vietnamese knowledge.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
A little bit. I still gotta you know, we still
he still talks with close captions a little bit.

Speaker 10 (55:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
Is actually, you know, Johnny immigrated here, you know, when
he was young. So he has a strong, big, big
action that has gotten tremendously better over the years. But
every now and especially when you had a couple drinks
and something, you.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
Know, he's gonna come out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
But yeah, that's my guy for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
So you know we have two grill wearing gentleman's in
the buildings.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
You know what I'm saying, rainy.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
Traditional slugs and juv shit.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
You know what I mean, of course the goat, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (55:39):
Yeah, yeah, we need to know, like what was what
was the initial reaction to Paul wall in the in
the free size te with the diamond grills and like
oh five, you know what I'm saying, because like me,
like I said, you know, in your prime, I was
like twelve and I had I didn't know the world
outside of the Bronx, so I thought she was Puerto Rican. Yeah,

(56:05):
so like but but like how did the rest of
the world or what was the initial reaction to like,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (56:10):
So to you and you're it was different. White people
laughed at me. Black people thought I was mixed or
creole from from Louisiana that I was. I thought I
was a Frenchman from the Louiseum. Mexican people thought I
was Mexican, you know. But so that's kind of how
everybody claimed. Everybody got to be one of us. He
got he gotta be next to slip up Mike, even

(56:35):
like you know, when I grew up there like there,
I grew up in this is like before Alan Iverson,
like globalized braid brains have been around forever, like corn
row braid.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Alan Iverson globalized. Yeah, he was like the poster child
for for for corn rows.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
But before that, in Houston, if you had braids, you
for sure were from the north Side, and if you
had a fade, you for sure from south Side. As
matter of fact, you know two of our you know
Houston icons, north Side Slim Thug and South Side ESG
made a song called Braids and Phades and it was like.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
North South south Side had beef.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
It was like if you were from the south Side,
north Side and you hated each other, it was like
bloods and crips people you hate each other.

Speaker 14 (57:16):
It's crazy that I knew that just from Like, yeah,
it's crazy, but you know that's how I mean.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
So for the braids, me growing up on the north
Side also go It's funny because I would go to
the club and I'd have braids and gold teeth and
girls would say where you from. You must be from
the north Side, Like, yeah, I'm from the run side.
I mean for sure go to people on the south
side go te too. Absolutely, But it was like, uh,
I don't know, we had more.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
It was just different, you know what I'm saying. Because
on the south Side it was a little different. They
were like screwed up.

Speaker 8 (57:53):
Click was royalty, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
So like the first time I ever heard anyone else
say anything about having diamonds in their mouth was fat
pad and a little ki key, you know, talking about
having diamonds in a t. So they had grills, but
it was like almost a different level, you know what
I'm saying. And we had we had gold teeth and
they kind of had grills. Different game, but that but.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
That that relationship has always been Paul Wall Johnny Day.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
Yeah for sure, Yeah, we've always Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Well actually you know what, Actually I was selling grills
before I met Johnny, but liter that I know he
was doing making them. Oh okay, right right right back.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
I was going through.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Yeah, so you hit the Frank Lucas.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Right literally literally.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Confidence full of grills.

Speaker 10 (58:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Man's like, hey, hey, Paul, can I get a discount?

Speaker 8 (58:47):
You put his head on the piano, Frank Las and grills.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
That's my new aliens, Frank Lucas grills. Man.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Man, all right, man, So look I got something for you,
Like I said, said, since you've been opponent of Johnny
Days for a long time.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
You know what I mean, Vietnamese success story icon like
I got me in. You know what I'm saying. How
Vietnamese is Paul War? We gonna quiz you. You got
a couple questions.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
So first off, the first one being according to recent
According to recent census data, English and Spanish are that
you most spoken language is in Texas? Where does Vietnamese
rank third, sixth or eighth? It's Vietnamese the third most language.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
And I wouldn't say it was well, I don't know.
We have a huge Vietnamese population, but we also have
a huge Chinese population, we have a huge Arabic Persian population,
we have a huge Indian past Pakistani. Like various regions
around the world, we have a use and it's very diverse.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
Sixth or eighth.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
I wouldn't say it's third. I wouldn't say it's third. Uh,
let's see sixth eight.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Maybe I don't know. I don't I don't even know.
If I can name eight languages.

Speaker 7 (01:00:05):
I'll say six, I I'll go to see you'll say
six and uh. Do we have access to the right
answers because they're not that's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
The right answer.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
That's yeah, that's question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Which of these animals is not typically found in the
Vietnamese man's liquor. Snake, scorpion or fish found in the
liquor is not typically found in the liquor.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
Scorpions and snakes. I've seen that, so fish fish.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Got right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That's two for two what I'm saying, all right?

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Question three? There is a Vietnamese gambling game frequently played
around the New Year where players place bets on various
symbols in the hopes that a dice roll will reveal
the symbol they bet on. Name three of the six symbols.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
I can't, but I know you're telling about.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
We're gonna take a guess anyway, shrimp, crab, gorge, fish,
chicken or tiger. Here you go, here go look look
just you can tiger?

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
Crab? What's a gorge?

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
I don't know what that is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Like a like a squash, like a.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
Okay, I'll do that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
Well, oh okay like that. Uh maybe I know, uh,
maybe it's there to dupe your paul. Might be we
have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
Shrimp tiger and crab shrimp tiger. I don't know, because
shrimp and crab, it is like nah nah nah, I
go with crab there more than one crustad Yeah, yeah,
crab Gordon Tiger. Crab Gordon Tiger, Crab Gordon Tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
You know what I'm saying, he's smoking it. He's smoking
it right now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
I'm making him proud, right proud right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I mean it's rubbing off.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Ain't even you know what I mean? Alright?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
What effect does eating a beating snake heart have? Does
it give you wisdom? Sexual, vitality, for wealth and future prosperity?

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
He hit the Dominican.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I work.

Speaker 14 (01:02:26):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know that, but
I just assumed that anything like with that, it's usually.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
The tiger, the type.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Am I right up right on?

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Hel I got a law Yeah, yeah, so fresh, you
know what I'm saying, taking it out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Of the game moments for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
There is like a difference between that I've noticed between
DJs and the hip hop space and the other genres. Right, so,
like you get an d M DJ, they getting paid
a million dollars to go do this joint and wherever
people are showing up all these pressing buttons up there.

(01:03:10):
What is I don't explain it to me because I
don't understand to me, a hip hop DJ is doing
more than the d m DJ when they doing the
show because you mixing you especially if you're old school
and if you are vinyl you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
So, like, what is the why isn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
A bigger demand for like DJs? Because I remember back
in the day, like executioners like you know what I mean,
it was it used to be battles all that type
of shit.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
What is it that even the celebrity DJs get paid
more than if.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
You feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Like, look, no, I love shot shock, I love shot
you know what I mean. Want to greatest basketball places
of all time. But I'm like, bro, what the hell
does he know about dju?

Speaker 11 (01:03:51):
The answer is that is because uh and again I
don't do parties though neither that I'm saying, but I
would think that I think the reason for that is because, uh,
it's not based on the skill set. It's based on popularity.
You can get to come more so than the skill set,

(01:04:12):
you know what I'm saying. Where before Sado it was
all based on skill set. I mean you had to
you had to have the turntables, you had to have
the records, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
So beat match it was like it wasn't.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
I wonder how much money Cra has made from.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:04:38):
But but but not to say not to say that
like the people who are, you know, getting those large numbers,
not to say that they don't have skills.

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
I'm not. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I'm
just talking about money wise, right, you know, pre pre Serado.

Speaker 11 (01:04:54):
You actually had to go to the store and buy
the record to have that song, So that alone with
make you be more valuable, you know what I'm saying.
But once the Rattle came out and everybody could download
the playlist or whatever, then it came. The money part
more so came from the popularity aspect versus the skill set,

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you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
So that's why them just be wearing like goofy helmets.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
Up there with.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
It also depends on the version of the track you had. Yeah, yeah,
So like I would come to the DJ fresh set
because I knew he had like the demo version of
like something off of one of your earlier Tonight shows.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Today, I would say that's part of it with the
dm DJs, because they'll take a song and make it
their own version.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
But you can kind of go to you know, if
if Diplo got.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
A version of a song, I can download it and
I can play it too, But it's not the same
as when Diplo player, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
So it's kind of I think some of it might
be some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
That's that's crazy because it's just reminded me of of
I know, if you're familiar with the stream of black
Boy Max, Yeah, he'd be having like a lot of
rappers up there or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to do Fred again guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, and he just came up there and he just
made a beat on the spot like he like with
some DOCI vocals and like, dude, that's so crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Black Boy Max the way he does it all the
way like the new generation. And it's not an age thing.
It's just that this is the fresh generation. This is
the way the fresh, not the DJ fresh, but the
fresh generation does things where our generation we hid how
we did it, and all we showed was the final product.
But now the way that's like black Boy He'll go

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in there from scratch, make it be if somebody come
in the artists, come in there from scratch, you know,
go wrapping the move, he'll mix it right down the
spot and they'll put it up tomorrow, you know, kind
of like Status Selector and bum Bee with static how
they do like do the whole album, I mean one
day and then put it up the next day. They
straight live stream the whole thing, you know, put it up.
But that's like kind of the fresh way of doing things.
It's showing people because people want to know how did

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you do that? They don't want to guess and debated
and the barber, so they want to actually watch and
know how you made it. So it's dope to see that,
you know. But I got to get out of my
own ways of now we ain't going to nobody.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
And also to add to that, like I do a
I do a session every three days a week called
the Sound of DJ Fresh Sessions on my youthy y'all
go look at up the Sound of DJ Fresh Sessions Monday,
Wednesdays and Fridays. I didn't do it this week because
I'm out here, but Monday Fridays I do it six
pm ps T time. But I got all my all
my symps hooked up and so you're hearing me do

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all the beasts that you hear me make on my albums,
but you see me doing in real time.

Speaker 10 (01:07:34):
You know what I'm saying. I got everything hooked up.

Speaker 11 (01:07:36):
I got find the rolls, pianos in their organs, like,
I got all my all my sims, all my instruments.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
Sometimes them like hey, I want to beat.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
On behalf of every producer and engineer out there. Thank
you so so much, seriously, because that's that's like priceless info.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
A lot of people gay keep that ship.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
Yeah yeah, but I was like that was necessary before
because that's how you ate. Yeah right, So it's like
it's like now everybody could do it. Now, it's just
like who's gonna do it the dopest, you know? So yeah,
it's beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
And that's dope because like I remember seeing a long
time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
It was like a Pharrell studio session with like some
vocalist I can't even remember her name, but just seeing
that process, I was like wow, And this was like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Thirteen years ago, and I'm just like yo ohoh, so
I could.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
Imagine you know what you're doing your thing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, it's like, man, if you're a real fan of
hip hop, DJ Fresh YouTube Man play Yeah player Man
and it's just like, boy, Max subscribe.

Speaker 11 (01:08:37):
I'm gonna show y'all a lab to say y'all can
see it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Oh boy, here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
We got to sneak lab behind the scenes some BTS
Victory Light exclusive BTS.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
Baby.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
Yeah, that's so, that's what I do everything.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
Yeah, look how I love how far away? I love
how far away. That's how insane this studio is.

Speaker 10 (01:08:57):
Look at this.

Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
We might we might have to drop this.

Speaker 10 (01:09:01):
It's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:02):
Yeah, god ya, I feel like there's only there's only
two people alive that have seen more keys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
His first name was Pablo.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Yeah, so yo.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
We do a very special segment on this program called
the tim for a Fitted where we give you a
tim four fitted each of y'all. You know what I'm saying,
and you put it on your head to protect it
from the five G rays. You know what I'm saying,
because big brothers always watching and they don't want you
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:09:33):
They don't want you to fitting knowledge knowledge.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
You know, I mean, this is protected from the technology.
So this is about you take that, you put it
on your head, and then you tell us a conspiracy
theory that you believe to be true.

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
It don't need to be no crazy thing like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
It, like hey, man, like birds aren't real, you know,
like whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Yeah, we keep it, We keep it silly, we keep it,
you know what, We keep it fun whoever wishes to
don at first.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Since the first.

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
So it's a conspiracy that I think is true.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
It's a true, full blown belief or you think might
be true.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
Yeah, yeah, like a conspiracy that that you feel like
holds weight, that has water, that sounds like that might
be yeah, yeah, okay, all right, all right, DJ fresh
about going the hat and.

Speaker 10 (01:10:21):
Is on?

Speaker 8 (01:10:23):
All right?

Speaker 10 (01:10:23):
Bet uh, it might be true.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
We didn't land on the moon.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
It might be true we didn't land on Yeah, it might.

Speaker 7 (01:10:34):
What makes you say that?

Speaker 11 (01:10:37):
Because I was thinking I was just thinking about what
because the first I thought it was conspiracies that I
don't think it's true. But if it's one that I
got to pick, I would say it might be. It
might be something to that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yeah, yeah, because well I was in the sixties.

Speaker 6 (01:10:52):
Yeah, and why haven't we gone back?

Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
So that one might that that one that one could
possibly be true.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
Okay, okay, Mike could be fake.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
You know what I'm saying because that's true. There ain't
no more flicks than nobody there like anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
There's only the one, the.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Movement that might might have been directed by Steeping s Field.

Speaker 10 (01:11:11):
We don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Is this an Astros had on their.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
I gotta put it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:17):
I gotta I got don't head it die, I might die.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
Yeah, here you go. Oh wait a minute, I'm feeling
something now, snap?

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
The frequency is this frequent?

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
Yeah? I feel this feels good?

Speaker 8 (01:11:35):
Is Astro's head? Oh no, I'll tell you one thing
that I hope it's true.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
I want to believe it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I mean all.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
Conspiracy theories I enjoy. I'm entertained by it. It's thought provoking.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
Even the ones that I know aren't true, I still
like like watching them, like hearing about them, or you know,
the ones that have been completely disproven, I still like
watch them. But one that I hope is real is
that gold is a transmitter for the universe. You know
what I'm saying. Like gold, so of course wearing gold grills.
That's why I really like, Okay, this is one of

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my secret powers. Treats me right, and it's just why
God blessed me, because I sell grills. So I'm like
bringing into the world do the Lord's work.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Well, that's one that.

Speaker 8 (01:12:24):
I hope is true. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Boom, there you go, Yo, listen the moon Land.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
That might be fake.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
According to your freshman Yankees at man.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
Hold, this is a signal transmitter victory light.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Baby, you know what time it is and the Astros
never cheated.

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
That's right, baby. Another one in the books, Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Fred Wood Radio value to Yep, God rap God merrow
of the human do rat flap.

Speaker 7 (01:12:56):
This has been another legendary episode of victory like and
we will see y'all next time, baby pop power.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
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Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
H m hmmm, h

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
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