January 6, 2025 • 41 mins
What happens when many of the top Celtics podcasts unite under one roof? You get the official Celtics mega crossover pod 🎙️☘️
View From The Rafters hosts Marc D’Amico, Sean Grande and Abby Chin brought John Karalis of Locked On Celtics, Chris Forsberg of Celtics Talk and Jay King of Still Poddable together for a one-of-a-kind episode featuring great stories, New Year’s resolutions and light-hearted shenanigans along the way. They discuss their favorite Celtics memories, such as Leon Powe’s return to Oakland and Isaiah Thomas’ 53-point playoff gem, as well as which player is the best quote from those whom they’ve covered. They close it out with some measured opinions on the 2024-2025 campaign. Check out the end of the pod where they give a special shoutout to their fans and info on how you can listen to each show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to season five of You from the Rafters Behind
the scenes with the Boston Celtics. We're sitting here having
these conversations.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Which one sticks out to you?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
What do we craft?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Or we just want a championship?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
That probably happens a lot.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We do this every year.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, this is hard, bro, I never thought of it
that way.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Thank you for that be a part of that winning atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, this is View from the Rafters. But today
this is the mega Boston Celtics Crossover podcast episode. We've
got View from the Rafters represented Ray here. We've got
John Corrals with Lockdown Celtics. We've got Chris Forsburg with
Celtics Talk. And last and certainly least is Jay King
with Iboudible. And by the way, I just want you
(00:40):
all to know that this is the authentic version of
each podcast. As you see, Grandy is all dressed up
in a suit and tie and at the end Jay
is wearing sweatpants, which is what he does every single
time he does anything up.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You told me that, I told you, just be you.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That's always that's his dressy backwards hut skimming.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is this just get more college?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Well, thank you for showing us podcast just in case
I need to know.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
How did Jay get the nod over be Rob and Sam?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Uh, that's a good question. I think that he holds
a little He's good inter. I think you hold a
little good will with someone important in our PR group.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
I mean, I know Packard.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Has a history of dodging me, but like live in
Boston anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I mean, but he was in Boston for the holidays.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Yeah, that's tough, tough hit.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Maybe I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You don't know.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
What's that You gotta sweatshirt on too?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, but this is a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nice sweatshirt with a jacket on top.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, so this is classy.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
All right?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
So I'm on Forsburg's podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So now we're yeah, we guys our enemies today.
Speaker 9 (01:44):
There's a little family guy Simpson's thing going on the
crossover episode.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So what do we do on the crossover episode? Maybe
we just get a bunch of different types of takes here.
So first and foremost, obviously, we are all around the
team in many different ways, in different times and different varieties.
I'm just curious what you guys tell people when they
ask you, like, what is it like being around the
Celtics all the time. Jay, what do you say? Because
(02:11):
I know you get these questions from your boys, your family,
your in laws.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
I think the best question is you can jump in.
But like people always say, do you talk to the players,
And I'm.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Like, yeah, you talk to people, you work with network.
The thing I always say is no, I can't get
you tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's what I always Well.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
I have people reach out that I haven't spoken to
in like ten years, asking if they get me tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm like, I can't even give my wife.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, that's even worse than it is for me. Yeah,
and I can probably. No, I don't work Wait, no,
I can't for the Celtics. Everybody thinks I work for
the Celtics. I do not work for the Celtics. They
just think because I'm there, I work for the team. No.
Over there's a clear line there, there's a line there.
Technically you do right, you're way over there. I'm way
(02:58):
over here. That's why I'm at the end. I walked
both sides of the line.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
Abby's got a little bit of that too, christ is
a little It says almost that's how we.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Should have lined Yeah, we should have lined up, And like.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, way of access, I would have been in the
other room.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah that's true, but hey, you're here today. So the
point is that we all serve all of you. That
is the point, no matter what it is we.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do, and that has to come.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
First, no matter what.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
So I would also say that the players are taller
than you can even imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
What do you do when you do them?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
I'm used to being around just super tall people now.
I went to a restaurant the other day with my
brothers who were all like six two six three, and
the waitress was like, my god, you got are huge.
What you're talking about? I will think the smallest person
in the room, in every room.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
We were walking into a hotel recently and Jaden Springer
asked Christops for Zingis.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Like, how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I did the year I did the year I did
the Red Sox.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
Everybody would ask me, Hey, what's what's the difference. What's
the biggest difference between doing the Red Sox and the Celtics.
And my answer I always came back to, was well,
I felt taller.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, Baseball players are generally shorter than you think. Basketball
players are like taller than you.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
Virtoya was on that team or whatever you felt that
you felt like you were love it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But each of the podcast kind of brings a little
bit something different to the table. So do we consider
them our competition?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There's no competition for us.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh really? Oh really? Yeah? Please explain, Jay, were the
best daily.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
By far.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think John might have something to say about that.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
It's the best daily Celtics podcast that nobody can find.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Are we talking paywalls here?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We're worth We're worth the subscription.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I guess you people will have to not find out.
So we start out with you know, we're talking about
being around the team all the time. One of the
most unique parts of that is being a around Joe
Missoula all the time. Things have changed, you know, since
the first day that we all found out that he
was going to be the head coach of the Celtics,
we all didn't really know what to expect. I would
assume from all you guys as well.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Certainly didn't know that it was going to be like this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But yeah, I got with a championship within a couple
of seasons and some unique answers in the in the
media room. What have you all learned about him? Especially you,
because you get a lot of one on one time
with him. What have you guys learned about him over
the last two years since he took over, since that
first day when he was named head coach.
Speaker 9 (05:31):
I want to start down there because I'm more interested
because my daily life is you guys getting your shot
at him for however long that lasts.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And then there's sometimes like ninety second, there's a.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
Period of time between when we start on the air
and the period of time when Joe and I are
just talking, and that period of time every night is
basically talking about everything that you guys.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Just had last Well, you probably have a better view
of that than we do, though, But it's crazy because
when he took over, he was the assistant coach who
strapped a ping pong paddle Romeo Langage.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, you know, he didn't. We didn't know him much
more than that.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Obviously, we talked to him from time to time, We
had a little bit of time with him, but then
all of a sudden, he's the face of the Boston Celtics. Yeah,
and I think for that first year was very challenging
for him, just kind of learning everything that came with that.
I think he was obviously an insanely talented basketball mind.
We've seen that, so obviously not a great leader perspective.
(06:27):
Like everyone jumped on board, even that first year, which
was so rocky, nobody jumped off board. But that first
year was really hard for a number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Changing for him been challenging for all of us as well.
Trying to adjust to that and find ways to get
the best out of Joe when he wasn't always that
excited to be there.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
We just didn't know his personality right, Like, we didn't
know how you had to approach it, how you had
to have another question ready, because if you don't, you're
that he does, He's going to unclip the mic and
go and so. But what I love is the only
interaction I'd had with him before he took over the
head coach where we were in Charlotte ken Ba's game
first game back there or something, I think, and he
was Kema's kind of guy, and ken they told me
(07:08):
something like, yeah, I did. He did this drill where
he had to make a certain number of shots and
a certain amount of time. He gave me the number,
and I was happened to be in the elevator and
I went, you know, hey, Kem told me he made
you know in two minutes and forty seconds, and he
just looked at me and went, he told you that,
and then he just walked off the elevator. It didn't
follow up we used and I was like, huh, that
was abrupt, and then I was like years later, I
(07:29):
was like, oh, okay, now it all makes sense. The
other thing I always think takeaway is the only scouting
report we had was that when Derek got here in
that mid season trade, that he's got sent to Joe
and like learned the defense because Joe is going to
teach you everything. So I always had this impression that, like,
Olhwa's a defensive mastermind and this is this is his thing,
and all we do is talk about offense and three pointers.
So yeah, you know, you always pigeonhole someone, but again,
(07:50):
you're just getting to know him was the big thing.
And knowing what makes him tick.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I think the thing that stands out to me about
Joe is that he is very much his own person.
He is no want to play to the convention of
like he doesn't play the game right. He's not a
politician out here, He's.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Not He's not really really bad one Yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Doesn't humor anybody. Ye right, he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
He doesn't take a question like a lot of times
you just put a question out there. Sometimes sometimes you
ask a question because no one's asked anything yet. And
it's it's starting to be like anybody question and like
you just throw you just throw.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Something out there to get the ball rolling. And he
does not. He doesn't play along, and and and it's
a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I think it's he wants you to come prepared to
work well, even though it has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Wants demands that you come from.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
You'll be rewarded if you But.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
It's not even just being prepared, like yeah, everybody should
be prepared going, you know, coming to work. It's it's
that he has he has his own way of seeing things.
And there's he's done really well trying to like meet
us not quite in the middle, but get a little
bit closer to where we are about Like, okay, I
get what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He he has his view, he has his way of
doing things.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And reporters, podcasters, we don't know what it's like to
be NBA players, even though we've played some level of basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
The NBA is so different.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He he doesn't you played the highest level out of
all of us.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Just to be That's what I was getting at.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Thank you for asking us give him his flowers. He
didn't really ask, But no one knows what it's like
to be in the NBA. And and he, I think,
is so like protective of his team that when you
ask a question that runs counter to how things are,
he'll give you like a negative reaction when sometimes, like
(09:43):
I've had to tell him, we actually just want to
know if I get something wrong, if I phrase a
question wrong, feel free to rephrase it and tell me
this is what I think the heart the heart, and then.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I will counter with that. So I appreciate the fact
that he's meeting us some and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's a part of the growth too, right, like of
understanding each other. It's not just like us understanding him,
it's him understanding us too.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
And I think him being himself that's part of what
helped them take a leap last season because that first
year he stepped in for Email under insane circumstances and
the players had just gone to the finals. They believed
in everything that he may did. So if he had
come in and changed everything to put his own stamp
on it. Guys would have been like, what are you doing?
(10:29):
We don't want to do this. And then they had
the tough end of that first season where they fall
behind three nothing to Miami, can't quite finish off the comeback,
and he came back the next year and finally he
was able to do things right.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He changed everything.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
He changed practiced schedule, he changed how they work, He
changed every single thing how the assistant coaches worked. And
I think him doing it his way really helped propel
them forward.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Because another way to phrase that what the two he
just said was by doing it his way is a
discomfort to a lot of you, but it is an
extraordinary comfort to the guys he started.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And that's and that's just it.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
And I also would say that it's you want to
make them uncomfortable too.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, but not in the same way he is going to.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We were inching you with two weeks ago.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
A couple of weeks ago, we were in Chicago and
somebody came half prepared. They wanted to get a question
for a story they were writing about the TV ratings
in the league, and everybody's ready and throughout this Genario question,
and Joe literally shrugged his shoulders and gave no answer.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And then all of a sudden, you guy, You guys have.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Been on the spot where you're in the room, and
now you feel like you've got to ask it again
or ask some follow up that you're not prepared to
ask for. And he'd begrudgingly gave him an answer. But
Joe is a jiu jitsu player. He is a jiu
jitsu player in his mind, and he certainly is on
the air while he's coaching and when he's in there
with you, and even when he's in there with me.
I love the competition element of it. I spend the
(11:50):
inordinate amount of my day preparing for that segment because
it's worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
As you said, it's worthwhile.
Speaker 9 (11:56):
When you do prepare, you're going to get something good
out of it. And that's how he lives his life.
It's not a lot of competitive people how we live
our lives. And it results in something like everything with Joe,
it results in something different than what you have been
used to before.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I agree with you, and that when I know that
I am doing that pregame interview with him, the one
on one, I think about it all day long.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's as I'm getting.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Ready, as I'm meeting my lunch, I'm just thinking about
what how can I phrase these questions to get the
best out of Joe. But also I will say that
it feels different when they were in the room. It
doesn't always feel as adversarial. I think, especially now that
we have spent so much time with Joe, that when
he does give us those non answers, it's like, Okay,
we're not going to talk about that today, not any deal.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Hey you deserve that because you didn't have a great question, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
It comes off differently on camera, and then still possible
we'll throw it up and like what a Joe said?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
What is that segment called that you guys do?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Jose stuff?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Jo says, you guys remind stuff And I'm like, oh,
I didn't. I didn't feel that in the room. But
that is really funny the way he said it or
what he said.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I do think the outside percent of his relationship with
us is different than the reality.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't think that first of all, is nothing ever personal.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You know with that if he ever comes back and
his adversarial in any way, it's it's because of the
question or his mood or what he wants to convey,
not like I don't like you personally, because afterwards when we're.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Done, like who we.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Look.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I'm a Rhode Islander.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Just like Joe. We get each other.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It's like a love hate and we love to hate.
But yeah, I think he wants to be challenged too,
Like he wants to challenge and he is equal opportunity.
Like he he will treat people how he wants to
be treated. So he you know, he wants to be
challenged by things, and therefore I will challenge you. I
saw a podcast where he made some dude get into
(13:52):
a cold tub, asked the question, just to see if
he was committed to getting the questions.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Boston.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Adam Hard had to get in the top and pretty
much Adam is directly essentially the producer of the segment.
And but Joe had had a great relationship with him
and pretty much said like, you know, all right, if
you want us to actually do this interview and give
you what you're looking for, you need to get into
tub with me. That's and so Adam got down and
now that center got in shout out, got a great little.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
As he is a firm believer in making himself uncomfortable,
thus making everybody else uncomfortable. That's where results come from,
and it translates to every single part of his life.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's true. One thing you were going to say there
that I think trailed off a little bit, But what
people don't know is that when the cameras turned off
from that pregame media session and like maybe there was
a moment that people might perceive as kind of like,
you know, going at it a little bit. He'll walk
down off the stage and he'll actually talk to us
all about that moment, and someone might be able to
show yere's why I did that, or he might say
(14:50):
it back.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, he will clarify like what he meant to say.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Sometimes when it comes off as like confrontational, he'll come
out and be like n meaning yeah, you know that way.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So he's been an incredible story that we've all been
around and watched kind of develop over the last couple
of years. All of us have been around the team
for a long time. At this point, what's everyone's most
interesting or favorite story that they've covered, either on the
podcast or just within you know, your writing responsibilities of
covering the team.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
My favorite was back when Marcus Smart was here. I
don't know if we want to go that far.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Back, but go back as far as you want, John.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So, my absolute favorite story that I did is like
the silliest little thing is if we remember, there were
like consecutive games where the ball got stuck at the
shot clock and Marcus with the yeah, like Marcus got.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
The was around to get them right.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Like once he was on the floor and he knocked out,
and once he was on the bench and he went
over and he knocked it off and people were like.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Mocked, like cheering, like MVP, MVP.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
So I like caught him on the side and I said,
you know, how funny was that just just to get
like a little fun quote, and it turned into this
big like you know, there was a time where they
wouldn't have even they would have booed me or something.
That was like, now to hear the MVP chance, it
shows how much I've come along in this city that
came about from taking I was like, oh my god,
this is like gold from Marcus.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So this the silliest little basketball being.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Stuck on the backboard turned into Marcus kind of like
a story about how far he's come in the eyes
of fans in the city of Boston.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So that was that was like really cool for me.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Is that what you guys have all found is like
it's those little things that you pull out that people
are probably like, wait, that's a story, and then you
go a little deeper and something's there.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I mean, for me, it was I season because I
was such an open book, like we would show up.
He broke into a train station to see his Nike
I campaign one.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Day and like hein yeah, like he was again.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Remember he had gone from being I mean bench guy
six man, but then like all of a sudden, he's
in the MVP commerce.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
He was a six man here by the way for
and but he never.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
He always still approached it like he was the lastka
on the bench, and you know, he was willing to
tell you like he was again an open book. And
I will romanticize that season forever, not only because of
like what happened that year and like how improbable it was,
you know, probably second only to last season, and the
championship was the most enjoyable season to ever be around,
because I just went in with such low expectations and
he made it so much fun. And we always say, right,
(17:16):
like we we don't cheer for the players, well maybe
maybe Tomko.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Absolutely we cheer for stories, right, see me in an
immediate section when we make it.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
As scout those that but we do cheer for storylines.
And like, you know, you cheer for good people too, right,
And like I was a chief among them, and so I like,
I hate how the way that ended, you know, like
it was it wasn't particularly fair to him. I understood it.
But that season was awesome and I'll never forget that year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
I mean that playoff run that he had with his
hip herding with his sister just passed away. He had
thirty three points. I believe it was a day after
his sister passed away in the first game of the playoffs, right,
not to two spent like.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Eight hours, that's too much to what you've already said.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
No, he did and then had fifty something what would
have been.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
His sister's birthday in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
That was just an incredible run and proof that, like,
you don't need to win a title to leave a
legacy that people remember for a long time. My favorite
story was about Marcus smart too. It was about his AAU,
his AAU days, and it was just because it reminded
me of my AU. His team was crazy. They stayed
together from the time they were.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Like ten to seventeen.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
But they had parents cussing the kids out, but like
loving it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
They had parents getting in fights, they had the kids.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Obviously Marcus probably a little fiery back then like he
is now and just working out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It reminded me of my AU time. So I love that.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
About y Naco. Well, what's been your favorite?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So my stupidest story that I just really enjoyed telling
it actually had to do with Gordon Hayward. So he
came into a This was back in the Waltham days.
He was at the practice facility and he just randomly
was like drinking a bottle of water and someone was like,
is that cold and he was like, no, it's not
I don't drink cold water. And I was like why.
In my head, I'm like why does he not drink
(19:09):
cold water? And so I came back to our offices
and I pitched my boss. I'm like, hey, Gordon just
said he doesn't drink cold water and I have no
idea why. And I really want to find out and
write a story about it. He's like, that seems like
something no one would care about, and I'm like, I
think people will like it. So we wound up running
with a story and I talked to him and basically
the moral of the story is that he perceives cold
(19:30):
water is when you drink it, your body has to
warm it up, and you waste energy by having to
warm up the water. So Joe Michula would make he
would love that. Yeah, he would want to challenge him.
But yeah, I think I think to your point John earlier,
just like those little nuggets that come out that you're like, Okay,
that's something I want to go a little deeper on,
and then you never know what's going to come out
(19:50):
of that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I noticed that no one has mentioned this current team
of players as their favorite stories, because this is the
most buttoned up, professional, don't tell you a thing type
of team.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You have to go back to Marcus and I.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
T and well, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
My favorite moment of all time was an al Horford
interview in Cleveland during the playoffs, and it was the
first time he'd ever been in a lebron James team.
They did it in Cleveland, and it was the only
time I've ever seen Al like out of.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
His Yeah, it.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Was he was still on the floor. Yeah, and it
was experience, yes, And it was just that is who
Alan is on the floor. That's not who we get
to see, that's not who we talked to. But he
was still in that moment and it is the most
un al like moment that I have experienced with him.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And it was just so genuine and pure and it
was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'll just throw out there that I think that's more al.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Than we really think.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
That is l he just has the ability to to what.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm saying just now, Like all of these guys, like
when we leave the locker room, I'm sure are just
incredible person Yeah, just they have this incredible ability to
just like but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Even Jason, right like, I don't think any franchise better
than I don't think any of us personally know like
the real Jason that he is in his day to
day life, because he's just doing media with us, and.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Every once in a while we're standing there waiting for
a scrum and you hear him talking to a couple
of his friends and you're like, oh personality. Look at this,
He's joking and busting chops and all that stuff. You're like, oh,
why can't you do that with us? And he comes
up to us and it's like, yeah, you know, just
trying to get better.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Come on. He lets it out in his commercials.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Though.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
At least this is the velvet rope nature of and
the evolution of the league. In Max's days, they were
flying commercial you know, you'd be with him in the airports.
The media would fly with them. So obviously, you know,
Abby and I we get to see things that people
aren't going to see that even general media isn't going
to see it in quote unquote real lives.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But the best stories.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
And the reason we're not talking about it because that
team won the championship and they were meticulous and they
weren't touched last year and they walked backwards into it
and it's great and it'll be remembered forever like the
O eight team will. But it's the little stories like
Isaiah's sister, of the thousands of games that I've now
done and I've called championships and all of it, I
to this day vividly remember when you said, think of
a moment. The one that pops into my head was
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Leon Poe playing for the Celtics as a rookie, just
trying to find his way.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We get to Oakland where he grew up.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Outside the Old Oracle Arena, they would have flea markets
every weekend. He and his mother would go there to
make ends meet. They would sell things at the flea
market outside this arena. And I got to be there
to call the moment when he walked onto that floor
as an NBA players offs and that still gives me
a little gooit like because the championships are great and
it's what's going to be remembered forever. But Isaiah coming
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here and starting his career over again in the most
symbiotic relationship I've ever seen in the NBA. The Celtics
needed him, he needed the Celtics and it was the
perfect match. Those are the stories that you tell. Those
are the goosebump moments, and that's what makes fans and
what they remember.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'll throw one.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Moment out, but two of the same night, the championship night,
Joe coming out with his wife walking around hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I was out in the arena. I love working
in the media. Section in the.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Arena when everything is done and gone, and he's kind
of like a big office.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's so great.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
So Joe was out there walking around with his wife
and that was a nice moment, and he's like, I
asked him about it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
He's like, I thought we were alone, like new No,
I don't know. Three hundred people in there and then.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Four in the morning or so, and you know, we're
still writing, we're still doing stuff and like just about
wrapping up. Confetti's still on the floor and Jalen walks
in post party, so he's celebrated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And he walks in.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And like like the guards down and he's got his
friends with him and the MVP trophy and he just
walks out and he's just smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He's like, what a beautiful site.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You guys are playing ball. There are a couple of
people ship around.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, and he like got the ball and was like,
all right, what are you doun Like, Jalen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Please don't tell you do not do I was like, not,
don't dunk on me.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Please don't try to take a step right now, because
there's configion all over the floor.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You've been celebrating a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I don't want the story to have that I have
to tell to be like, why did Jalen Brown get hurt?
Why is he in crutches on the duck boat. He
did not do that, thankfully, But that moment of Jalen
kind of taking it in like the most real, genuine moment.
So I have to share that just because it is
of the current team and it's like Jalen just soaking
it in and just what a beautiful sight.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was a great You said there was another one?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Is there another one?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That one in the Joe Joe walking around? Yeah, that's
I mean to your point, Like, the genuine moments are
the ones that I mean, all of the team gets
to see behind closed doors. The guys are completely genuine there,
but they just have their guard up a little bit
when they're around the media, so we don't always get
to see who they really are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's a different story.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
That's a different story.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, he's winking to the fans. Yeah, you know what
we have seen, Jason.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
You do see a moment every night because when he
locks eyes with Deuce, or when Dukes runs over to
Duke runs over to him in the middle of a game,
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's because that's that's the guy. That's his entire adult life.
He has. We've all had adult lives at some level
before kids. He hasn't. I don't think j has well yeah, yeah,
I mean he's ail over there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Come on, I'm still a child with a child. The kid.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm still a child with a child.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I love it.
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since we've all been around this team, and I think
(25:57):
this might be a little bit of a debate.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Who's everyone's favorite? Woked?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I mean, Mark Smart is pretty high up there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'll just go Robert.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Williams, Oh never again?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh ahead?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
God?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Who had twenty six minutes? Is that a record for camera?
It is?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
It's easy to forget when Rob first got here, he
was very still Louisiana Bull who.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like he got here a little late by the way,
Well you did.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
And that to me was endearing too, because again, there's
what we're all the The whole crux of this conversation
has been trying to find a human element to these players,
and sometimes they're just so otherworldly and talented and big
and that we'd like forgetting your wallet when before you
go to sign the MDA contract. It's like somewhat endearing.
But Rob didn't have a filter, and so Rob would
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do interviews and like every other word was was a
curse word, to the point where Austin Age had to
walk over and be.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Like, fuck, I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey you He.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Was just like, maybe tone down the amount of f
words in there.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And we're all like, no, we love to bleep it.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
He was just earnest and honest and like I loved
everything about the way Rob talk and like you know,
from the setbacks to like when there were good times.
He was just such a good quote in terms of
like you knew you're going to get genuine history and
I could you know he could throw his a in
there and all that, but like, uh, definitely, just like
when people don't put that guard up and they just
(27:24):
speak with what they feel. And from Chris Tops to
Rob all Off, injured centers are the guys answer.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
There's one obvious.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
One of them, he was one of the funniest Celtic
that so quick witted, hilarious. The other one is Marcus Moore,
That's the one.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Morris was just no bs, another guy who slid a
cuss word in there every other, every other sentence.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
At the very.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Least, he would also just tell you the truth. I
remember there was one night they blew like a twenty
six point lead against the Clippers and we could see
in the most game locker room Marcus Moore was just
doing and so we were like, we gotta talk. We
got oh yeah, and it took a while to get
to him, and we were like, we're gonna wait. There
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was there was a little time when I think pr
was trying to finesse us and get us out of
the locker room before he could talk. And that was
when he told us that they just weren't having any
fun present.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Like all of a sudden, he sorted, oh wait, they
have all this talent, but they're never harnessing it. And
it was it was it was like that aha moment
of oh boy, this is this is worse when.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We think, who who does that sound like? Before this
current regime, I mean, you were around well were number forty.
I to was that guy in the locker room every night.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
He was that guy I remember. I mean, how many
times did I share a live mike with Kevin Garnett.
That's the definition of walking a tightrope. And there were
some there were some crazy things. I mean I'd also
go off the board for the one year for Rashid
Rashid Wah, who was amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You know, that's that the only player I was just
going to drink beer on the plane. He was just
da used to.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
There's waiting after Yeah, yeah, Abby, who's your favorite quote?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's so hard. I want to go way back.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
I mean Jim Crowder was also really good about being
honest whenever you asked him questions. Uh, And I mean
everyone is just always so generous to their time.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I'm gonna go way back my first season.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Gerald Wallace, sure, I think any of us would have
had bingo card.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Low slow drawl, just very like I could remember games
where he'd be like in jeans with like forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Everybody else is like warming up.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Gerald just just waiting to go have practice when they
when they stretch and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He would just be like sleeping on the floor and
still like he was a great leader, great to know
exactly what you're talking he was.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He wasn't a great app while everyone else was practicing. Yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He was. He was older at that time. He had
a rest up saving his energy all Hayward.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
That first year. If not for the levity and leadership
that Joe Wall.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But I can't believe I'm actually embarrassed by the fact
that no one else has said who I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Going to say?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Maybe it's just recency biased, but Luke Cornett, he's the
funniest guy. Maybe in the NBA toned.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It down this year. He's not trying to be a
little button ups.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Not on the sport though.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
He's got funny He did the silent night thing before
you know, he said Merry Christmas to everybody. But when
he's actually talking to us on the podium, I don't
think he's he has that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
That's why you got to get him in a one
on one, one on one environment.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's gold.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's quick.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
We brought him on after, you know, af for a
game when I usually play a highlight coming out of
the commercial with the guy that we're going to be
talking to, and in the highlight he had had this
dominant stretch and I'd called him Kareem abdual Cornette or
something like that, and.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
As soon as we come on, he goes.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
You know, I always thought to myself more as Luke
al cinders.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
As quick as anybody.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
One regret I have too, is that Jeff Tigue was
here during one of the COVID years when we weren't
all out in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And now we know, because.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Now we know he's like the greatest storyteller there is,
and we only got him on like a couple of
zoom calls and we weren't able to really pick his
brain at all.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That year, they had stuff going on the jumbo tron
where the players were asked on like media Day of
who the funniest guy on the team was, and everyone
was like Jeff Tigue, And I'm like, what, Like, I
didn't I didn't know that he was that guy. Now
I know from watching his podcast that that dude is funny.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Okay, we should get him next time.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, we'll try to get him out. We don't have
a lot of time left. We've covered a lot, by
the way, everyone, we're recording this before New Year's Eve,
so we got a few games to play before this
episode comes out. But from everyone's perspective looking on the court,
which we haven't talked a whole lot about during this pod,
what should the celthis New Year's resolutions be as they
head into twenty twenty five trying to get out of
(32:14):
a little bit of a rut here that they've had
over the past week or two.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Defense?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, is that that's it. It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's a play some defense. It'll be nice.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But Joe just said the other day like he loved
the way the defense played against Orlando.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well that's what he's talking Moss.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, but like, look he can We just talked about
Joe being honest.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You're telling me.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm straightforward. He is a little bit no.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I like you can say like he'll pull out stats
and they'll say, I remember I asked him once about
defensive issues, you know, a few weeks ago, and he
was like, oh, we're number one, inexpected, blah blah blah.
I was like, okay, yeah, but you still can get better.
And he's like, you can get better than number one. Okay,
I guess you're like all right, Like that's you, Lily.
He had like, right, remember that time when he was
(33:02):
like he was actually like keeping score and scrums like
I win this conversation. But anyway, yeah, no, play some defense.
They or consistently and I get it right. It's it's
the twenty twenty four portion. And you know, Drew Holliday
is a little older, and he's coming off a short
off season and Olympics and you know haven't had KP
and all of that stuff. But to get to where
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they are going to be ultimately and where we all,
I think expect them to be in June, they got
to get back to that defensive mentality and kind of
locking down more than you know, a few minutes a game.
They can't just rely on their shooting to get them
through some games, because that's you know, with so many
three point shots, not to not like rare expected shooting
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would get them these they're expected shooting, but the expected
doesn't always go in, and the three is prone to
slumps just by the nature of the shot. So I'd
like to see a little bit more of that defense
presence kind of show up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I actually think something that people haven't talked about a
lot this month. While and again we're in December here,
something that's contributed to this these recent struggles, if you
want to throw some air quotes around, it is that
the NBA Cup in the schedule, I actually think removed
a little bit of their rhythm. And then in addition
to that, they've had guys in and out of the land.
They haven't had a consistent lineup really all of them
(34:23):
last year the NBA. Yeah, and I think it will
in the long run, Like I think Tatum having that
week off, especially like you talked about short off season
for Drew Holliday, Jason got that whole week off, Al
Horford got a whole week off. Like, I think in
the long run, those are going to help. But in
the short term it kind of threw a little kink
into the into the armor in terms of having a
(34:43):
rhythm this year.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
That is my resolution is for health.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Obviously that is the most obvious and love hanging fruit.
But yes, and I think after that loss, the first
time they lost back to back games against Philadelphia on
Christmas Day was the first time we've ever heard them
talk about the fact that there are a lot of
moving pieces when it comes to the little and whether it's
Christops for zingis missing that first month of the season
or even I think Sam Hauser's injury being in and
(35:06):
out and not having that reliable three point shooter coming
off the bench is has been understated.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
And he's still dealing.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
With that back issue and it's something that I think
is going to continue to affect him for the rest
of the season, and so and now Christop's dealing with
the minor spring ankle. And while they've been they were
so lucky with health last year, and I know Christops
was in and out, but it is just so important
and so much of that has to deal with luck
(35:35):
and if they can stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
By the way, last year was the first time that
they actually had luck in that department.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I don't want to drink it.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I feel like I should.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I need to knock on.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I would say, just don't get bored with it.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Yeah, I think they've taken a right attitude toward repeating
this year. They came into training teams that had a great,
great mindset, they came into the regular season had a
great mindset. I think we've seen that dip a little
bit in the last week or two. We're jameson and
and I know it must be harder to stay motivated
day after day when you've already won a championship, when
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you know that your best is good enough, when you're
not fighting back against history and the last eight years
or six years, whatever it was for different guys, where
you've gone to the conference finals, you've gone to the finals,
you've always fallen short. So now they know their best
is good enough. They just have to stay with it
day to day and keep building those habits the way
they did last year. Because last year they were by
(36:29):
far the most consistent team in the league at home,
away against top five, against better than five hundred team
against words than five hundred teams. It did not matter.
They were the best and most consistent.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Getting met who was out there, didn't matter the roadblock.
It was always they found a way. And I think
that's the whole thing motivation, right, Like it's tough, the
whole I know, Joe stiff armed our whole target on
the back thing, that's not a thing. But every night
it feels like the other team is coming for him.
So I just want to see them be able to
And I get it, like you can't accomplish your ultimate
Colton June, so like, how do you find that motivation
(37:00):
every single night in December and January and the dol
drums that you gotta find it, and this team is
so good at it last year and staying locked in
and never letting things faster. My resolution would just be
for them to kind of tap into that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Again.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Here's the difference.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
The target on the back isn't new because the Celtics
have been a target for the last several years because
they've been at an eight team. Now, the way they
have been playing and winning has become targeted, starting with
that Golden State game early in the year when the
Warriors were going to run them off the three point line.
You have teams that have changed the way their roster composition,
teams like Atlanta and Orlando. We're going to have all
these long athletic guys. The Celtics now, now that they
(37:35):
have won, they're not just a target. They're also the
standard you have to beat the way they play to
beat them, and you have the rest of the league
is now geared up, so it's not just getting up
to play a big game every night. Now you a
lot of teams have geared up specifically to stop the
way the Celtics win.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
And that's been pretty parent.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
This is why Joe said, I think on my podcast,
I hope we see the red dot on the forehead.
We've en credit when we're talking about it.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Come on, guys, Yeah, seriously, only one podcast had YO
this summer.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
So I think I think the reason why he said
that is to Jay's point, when you see that you're
being targeted, that's going to make you kind of like, Okay,
we have to we have to rise to the challenge
of being targeted and complacency. That was an off season
storyline and it does continue to be a storyline, especially
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when you see, like against Philly, like the defense wasn't
there and then in the last three and a half
minutes of the game, all of a sudden it was
you know, Tyree s Max all of a sudden can't
get the ball over half court for two three possessions'
Like that's that's the defense right there. The complacency is
guys love to say human nature a lot is one
of Jason Tatum's favorite phrases. I think the human nature
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element is definitely part of it and why Joe wants
them to feel that being targeted so they can play
a more intense a brand of basketball and not be like, oh,
we're we're we're going to be fine. He wants them
to not feel fine. And it makes me wonder what
kind of sun crick Joe is. Yeah, what's Joe going
(39:11):
to do in January?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's aunt Chris is like, how does he keep them
amped up that head into you?
Speaker 7 (39:19):
He gets paid a lot of money. He can figure
that out.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You feel like Gladiator.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
He's just gonna have tigers hidden underneath the floor and
just let them out.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
We know the way he does it, right, Like he
breaks up the year into little chunks, and so when
you guys are watching this, it'll be a new chunk
of the year for Joe and he'll have something like
something they're kind of striving towards to fuel them and
they've got to all kind of buy into that. But
he will find something that you know, gets them back
on that that focus.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, Hey, we're hitting like four. That's the most important part.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
People.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Everybody voted home, which will oh no, hold on no, I.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Was just like, it's the first off text correct itself,
expansive proto all these different podcasts. You're the real heroes
out there if you made it this far, and this podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Holds if you be as far in this podcast. The
most important thing to take away is that of all
of the podcasts represented up here, only one of them
has not gotten Joe Missoula. You got some work to do.
He just draw an ice bath, buddy, he'll be there.
We knew this was going to be the you know,
jump on Jay's head.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Shout out to all the other Celtics podcasts.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, yeah, we can only fit six. As you can see,
we're filling the space up.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Robin Packard.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, so o s Max. Let's go down the line.
Where can everyone find the pods and make sure that
they're able to tune in and find what you guys.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Still go to patreon dot com slash still Poddible sign up,
become a kid or god or a legend Forrestburgh.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
If you don't know, I can't help you.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
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Speaker 2 (40:54):
And it thinks together.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
We started the cast together and then I jet us
in the dead weight.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I love to have to be fair.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, there there's no dead weight here with you from
the rafters. We are at YouTube dot com slash Boston Celtics.
You can find us on all the podcast platforms. Thank
you guys for coming on. This has been an awesome crossover.
I think the biggest mega podcast crossover that will ever
happen in the sou.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
The event of the season, it is it is all.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Might say, so thank you all for watching. We appreciate
you for listening and watching all of our podcast across
the board, and hope you're all having a great start
to the new year.
Welcome to season five of You from the Rafters Behind
the scenes with the Boston Celtics. We're sitting here having
these conversations.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Which one sticks out to you?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
What do we craft?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Or we just want a championship?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
That probably happens a lot.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We do this every year.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, this is hard, bro, I never thought of it
that way.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Thank you for that be a part of that winning atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, this is View from the Rafters. But today
this is the mega Boston Celtics Crossover podcast episode. We've
got View from the Rafters represented Ray here. We've got
John Corrals with Lockdown Celtics. We've got Chris Forsburg with
Celtics Talk. And last and certainly least is Jay King
with Iboudible. And by the way, I just want you
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all to know that this is the authentic version of
each podcast. As you see, Grandy is all dressed up
in a suit and tie and at the end Jay
is wearing sweatpants, which is what he does every single
time he does anything up.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You told me that, I told you, just be you.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That's always that's his dressy backwards hut skimming.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is this just get more college?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Well, thank you for showing us podcast just in case
I need to know.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
How did Jay get the nod over be Rob and Sam?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Uh, that's a good question. I think that he holds
a little He's good inter. I think you hold a
little good will with someone important in our PR group.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
I mean, I know Packard.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Has a history of dodging me, but like live in
Boston anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I mean, but he was in Boston for the holidays.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Yeah, that's tough, tough hit.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Maybe I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You don't know.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
What's that You gotta sweatshirt on too?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, but this is a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nice sweatshirt with a jacket on top.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, so this is classy.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
All right?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
So I'm on Forsburg's podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So now we're yeah, we guys our enemies today.
Speaker 9 (01:44):
There's a little family guy Simpson's thing going on the
crossover episode.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So what do we do on the crossover episode? Maybe
we just get a bunch of different types of takes here.
So first and foremost, obviously, we are all around the
team in many different ways, in different times and different varieties.
I'm just curious what you guys tell people when they
ask you, like, what is it like being around the
Celtics all the time. Jay, what do you say? Because
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I know you get these questions from your boys, your family,
your in laws.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
I think the best question is you can jump in.
But like people always say, do you talk to the players,
And I'm.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Like, yeah, you talk to people, you work with network.
The thing I always say is no, I can't get
you tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's what I always Well.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
I have people reach out that I haven't spoken to
in like ten years, asking if they get me tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm like, I can't even give my wife.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, that's even worse than it is for me. Yeah,
and I can probably. No, I don't work Wait, no,
I can't for the Celtics. Everybody thinks I work for
the Celtics. I do not work for the Celtics. They
just think because I'm there, I work for the team. No.
Over there's a clear line there, there's a line there.
Technically you do right, you're way over there. I'm way
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over here. That's why I'm at the end. I walked
both sides of the line.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
Abby's got a little bit of that too, christ is
a little It says almost that's how we.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Should have lined Yeah, we should have lined up, And like.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, way of access, I would have been in the
other room.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah that's true, but hey, you're here today. So the
point is that we all serve all of you. That
is the point, no matter what it is we.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do, and that has to come.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
First, no matter what.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
So I would also say that the players are taller
than you can even imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
What do you do when you do them?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
I'm used to being around just super tall people now.
I went to a restaurant the other day with my
brothers who were all like six two six three, and
the waitress was like, my god, you got are huge.
What you're talking about? I will think the smallest person
in the room, in every room.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
We were walking into a hotel recently and Jaden Springer
asked Christops for Zingis.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Like, how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I did the year I did the year I did
the Red Sox.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
Everybody would ask me, Hey, what's what's the difference. What's
the biggest difference between doing the Red Sox and the Celtics.
And my answer I always came back to, was well,
I felt taller.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, Baseball players are generally shorter than you think. Basketball
players are like taller than you.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
Virtoya was on that team or whatever you felt that
you felt like you were love it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But each of the podcast kind of brings a little
bit something different to the table. So do we consider
them our competition?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There's no competition for us.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh really? Oh really? Yeah? Please explain, Jay, were the
best daily.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
By far.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think John might have something to say about that.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
It's the best daily Celtics podcast that nobody can find.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Are we talking paywalls here?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We're worth We're worth the subscription.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I guess you people will have to not find out.
So we start out with you know, we're talking about
being around the team all the time. One of the
most unique parts of that is being a around Joe
Missoula all the time. Things have changed, you know, since
the first day that we all found out that he
was going to be the head coach of the Celtics,
we all didn't really know what to expect. I would
assume from all you guys as well.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Certainly didn't know that it was going to be like this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But yeah, I got with a championship within a couple
of seasons and some unique answers in the in the
media room. What have you all learned about him? Especially you,
because you get a lot of one on one time
with him. What have you guys learned about him over
the last two years since he took over, since that
first day when he was named head coach.
Speaker 9 (05:31):
I want to start down there because I'm more interested
because my daily life is you guys getting your shot
at him for however long that lasts.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And then there's sometimes like ninety second, there's a.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
Period of time between when we start on the air
and the period of time when Joe and I are
just talking, and that period of time every night is
basically talking about everything that you guys.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Just had last Well, you probably have a better view
of that than we do, though, But it's crazy because
when he took over, he was the assistant coach who
strapped a ping pong paddle Romeo Langage.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, you know, he didn't. We didn't know him much
more than that.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Obviously, we talked to him from time to time, We
had a little bit of time with him, but then
all of a sudden, he's the face of the Boston Celtics. Yeah,
and I think for that first year was very challenging
for him, just kind of learning everything that came with that.
I think he was obviously an insanely talented basketball mind.
We've seen that, so obviously not a great leader perspective.
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Like everyone jumped on board, even that first year, which
was so rocky, nobody jumped off board. But that first
year was really hard for a number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Changing for him been challenging for all of us as well.
Trying to adjust to that and find ways to get
the best out of Joe when he wasn't always that
excited to be there.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
We just didn't know his personality right, Like, we didn't
know how you had to approach it, how you had
to have another question ready, because if you don't, you're
that he does, He's going to unclip the mic and
go and so. But what I love is the only
interaction I'd had with him before he took over the
head coach where we were in Charlotte ken Ba's game
first game back there or something, I think, and he
was Kema's kind of guy, and ken they told me
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something like, yeah, I did. He did this drill where
he had to make a certain number of shots and
a certain amount of time. He gave me the number,
and I was happened to be in the elevator and
I went, you know, hey, Kem told me he made
you know in two minutes and forty seconds, and he
just looked at me and went, he told you that,
and then he just walked off the elevator. It didn't
follow up we used and I was like, huh, that
was abrupt, and then I was like years later, I
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was like, oh, okay, now it all makes sense. The
other thing I always think takeaway is the only scouting
report we had was that when Derek got here in
that mid season trade, that he's got sent to Joe
and like learned the defense because Joe is going to
teach you everything. So I always had this impression that, like,
Olhwa's a defensive mastermind and this is this is his thing,
and all we do is talk about offense and three pointers.
So yeah, you know, you always pigeonhole someone, but again,
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you're just getting to know him was the big thing.
And knowing what makes him tick.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I think the thing that stands out to me about
Joe is that he is very much his own person.
He is no want to play to the convention of
like he doesn't play the game right. He's not a
politician out here, He's.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Not He's not really really bad one Yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Doesn't humor anybody. Ye right, he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
He doesn't take a question like a lot of times
you just put a question out there. Sometimes sometimes you
ask a question because no one's asked anything yet. And
it's it's starting to be like anybody question and like
you just throw you just throw.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Something out there to get the ball rolling. And he
does not. He doesn't play along, and and and it's
a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I think it's he wants you to come prepared to
work well, even though it has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Wants demands that you come from.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
You'll be rewarded if you But.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
It's not even just being prepared, like yeah, everybody should
be prepared going, you know, coming to work. It's it's
that he has he has his own way of seeing things.
And there's he's done really well trying to like meet
us not quite in the middle, but get a little
bit closer to where we are about Like, okay, I
get what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He he has his view, he has his way of
doing things.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And reporters, podcasters, we don't know what it's like to
be NBA players, even though we've played some level of basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
The NBA is so different.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He he doesn't you played the highest level out of
all of us.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Just to be That's what I was getting at.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Thank you for asking us give him his flowers. He
didn't really ask, But no one knows what it's like
to be in the NBA. And and he, I think,
is so like protective of his team that when you
ask a question that runs counter to how things are,
he'll give you like a negative reaction when sometimes, like
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I've had to tell him, we actually just want to
know if I get something wrong, if I phrase a
question wrong, feel free to rephrase it and tell me
this is what I think the heart the heart, and then.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I will counter with that. So I appreciate the fact
that he's meeting us some and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's a part of the growth too, right, like of
understanding each other. It's not just like us understanding him,
it's him understanding us too.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
And I think him being himself that's part of what
helped them take a leap last season because that first
year he stepped in for Email under insane circumstances and
the players had just gone to the finals. They believed
in everything that he may did. So if he had
come in and changed everything to put his own stamp
on it. Guys would have been like, what are you doing?
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We don't want to do this. And then they had
the tough end of that first season where they fall
behind three nothing to Miami, can't quite finish off the comeback,
and he came back the next year and finally he
was able to do things right.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He changed everything.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
He changed practiced schedule, he changed how they work, He
changed every single thing how the assistant coaches worked. And
I think him doing it his way really helped propel
them forward.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Because another way to phrase that what the two he
just said was by doing it his way is a
discomfort to a lot of you, but it is an
extraordinary comfort to the guys he started.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And that's and that's just it.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
And I also would say that it's you want to
make them uncomfortable too.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, but not in the same way he is going to.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We were inching you with two weeks ago.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
A couple of weeks ago, we were in Chicago and
somebody came half prepared. They wanted to get a question
for a story they were writing about the TV ratings
in the league, and everybody's ready and throughout this Genario question,
and Joe literally shrugged his shoulders and gave no answer.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And then all of a sudden, you guy, You guys have.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Been on the spot where you're in the room, and
now you feel like you've got to ask it again
or ask some follow up that you're not prepared to
ask for. And he'd begrudgingly gave him an answer. But
Joe is a jiu jitsu player. He is a jiu
jitsu player in his mind, and he certainly is on
the air while he's coaching and when he's in there
with you, and even when he's in there with me.
I love the competition element of it. I spend the
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inordinate amount of my day preparing for that segment because
it's worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
As you said, it's worthwhile.
Speaker 9 (11:56):
When you do prepare, you're going to get something good
out of it. And that's how he lives his life.
It's not a lot of competitive people how we live
our lives. And it results in something like everything with Joe,
it results in something different than what you have been
used to before.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I agree with you, and that when I know that
I am doing that pregame interview with him, the one
on one, I think about it all day long.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's as I'm getting.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Ready, as I'm meeting my lunch, I'm just thinking about
what how can I phrase these questions to get the
best out of Joe. But also I will say that
it feels different when they were in the room. It
doesn't always feel as adversarial. I think, especially now that
we have spent so much time with Joe, that when
he does give us those non answers, it's like, Okay,
we're not going to talk about that today, not any deal.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Hey you deserve that because you didn't have a great question, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
It comes off differently on camera, and then still possible
we'll throw it up and like what a Joe said?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
What is that segment called that you guys do?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Jose stuff?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Jo says, you guys remind stuff And I'm like, oh,
I didn't. I didn't feel that in the room. But
that is really funny the way he said it or
what he said.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I do think the outside percent of his relationship with
us is different than the reality.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't think that first of all, is nothing ever personal.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You know with that if he ever comes back and
his adversarial in any way, it's it's because of the
question or his mood or what he wants to convey,
not like I don't like you personally, because afterwards when we're.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Done, like who we.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Look.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I'm a Rhode Islander.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Just like Joe. We get each other.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It's like a love hate and we love to hate.
But yeah, I think he wants to be challenged too,
Like he wants to challenge and he is equal opportunity.
Like he he will treat people how he wants to
be treated. So he you know, he wants to be
challenged by things, and therefore I will challenge you. I
saw a podcast where he made some dude get into
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a cold tub, asked the question, just to see if
he was committed to getting the questions.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Boston.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Adam Hard had to get in the top and pretty
much Adam is directly essentially the producer of the segment.
And but Joe had had a great relationship with him
and pretty much said like, you know, all right, if
you want us to actually do this interview and give
you what you're looking for, you need to get into
tub with me. That's and so Adam got down and
now that center got in shout out, got a great little.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
As he is a firm believer in making himself uncomfortable,
thus making everybody else uncomfortable. That's where results come from,
and it translates to every single part of his life.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's true. One thing you were going to say there
that I think trailed off a little bit, But what
people don't know is that when the cameras turned off
from that pregame media session and like maybe there was
a moment that people might perceive as kind of like,
you know, going at it a little bit. He'll walk
down off the stage and he'll actually talk to us
all about that moment, and someone might be able to
show yere's why I did that, or he might say
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it back.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, he will clarify like what he meant to say.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Sometimes when it comes off as like confrontational, he'll come
out and be like n meaning yeah, you know that way.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So he's been an incredible story that we've all been
around and watched kind of develop over the last couple
of years. All of us have been around the team
for a long time. At this point, what's everyone's most
interesting or favorite story that they've covered, either on the
podcast or just within you know, your writing responsibilities of
covering the team.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
My favorite was back when Marcus Smart was here. I
don't know if we want to go that far.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Back, but go back as far as you want, John.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So, my absolute favorite story that I did is like
the silliest little thing is if we remember, there were
like consecutive games where the ball got stuck at the
shot clock and Marcus with the yeah, like Marcus got.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
The was around to get them right.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Like once he was on the floor and he knocked out,
and once he was on the bench and he went
over and he knocked it off and people were like.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Mocked, like cheering, like MVP, MVP.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
So I like caught him on the side and I said,
you know, how funny was that just just to get
like a little fun quote, and it turned into this
big like you know, there was a time where they
wouldn't have even they would have booed me or something.
That was like, now to hear the MVP chance, it
shows how much I've come along in this city that
came about from taking I was like, oh my god,
this is like gold from Marcus.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So this the silliest little basketball being.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Stuck on the backboard turned into Marcus kind of like
a story about how far he's come in the eyes
of fans in the city of Boston.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So that was that was like really cool for me.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Is that what you guys have all found is like
it's those little things that you pull out that people
are probably like, wait, that's a story, and then you
go a little deeper and something's there.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I mean, for me, it was I season because I
was such an open book, like we would show up.
He broke into a train station to see his Nike
I campaign one.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Day and like hein yeah, like he was again.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Remember he had gone from being I mean bench guy
six man, but then like all of a sudden, he's
in the MVP commerce.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
He was a six man here by the way for
and but he never.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
He always still approached it like he was the lastka
on the bench, and you know, he was willing to
tell you like he was again an open book. And
I will romanticize that season forever, not only because of
like what happened that year and like how improbable it was,
you know, probably second only to last season, and the
championship was the most enjoyable season to ever be around,
because I just went in with such low expectations and
he made it so much fun. And we always say, right,
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like we we don't cheer for the players, well maybe
maybe Tomko.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Absolutely we cheer for stories, right, see me in an
immediate section when we make it.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
As scout those that but we do cheer for storylines.
And like, you know, you cheer for good people too, right,
And like I was a chief among them, and so I like,
I hate how the way that ended, you know, like
it was it wasn't particularly fair to him. I understood it.
But that season was awesome and I'll never forget that year.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
I mean that playoff run that he had with his
hip herding with his sister just passed away. He had
thirty three points. I believe it was a day after
his sister passed away in the first game of the playoffs, right,
not to two spent like.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Eight hours, that's too much to what you've already said.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
No, he did and then had fifty something what would
have been.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
His sister's birthday in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
That was just an incredible run and proof that, like,
you don't need to win a title to leave a
legacy that people remember for a long time. My favorite
story was about Marcus smart too. It was about his AAU,
his AAU days, and it was just because it reminded
me of my AU. His team was crazy. They stayed
together from the time they were.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Like ten to seventeen.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
But they had parents cussing the kids out, but like
loving it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
They had parents getting in fights, they had the kids.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Obviously Marcus probably a little fiery back then like he
is now and just working out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It reminded me of my AU time. So I love that.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
About y Naco. Well, what's been your favorite?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So my stupidest story that I just really enjoyed telling
it actually had to do with Gordon Hayward. So he
came into a This was back in the Waltham days.
He was at the practice facility and he just randomly
was like drinking a bottle of water and someone was like,
is that cold and he was like, no, it's not
I don't drink cold water. And I was like why.
In my head, I'm like why does he not drink
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cold water? And so I came back to our offices
and I pitched my boss. I'm like, hey, Gordon just
said he doesn't drink cold water and I have no
idea why. And I really want to find out and
write a story about it. He's like, that seems like
something no one would care about, and I'm like, I
think people will like it. So we wound up running
with a story and I talked to him and basically
the moral of the story is that he perceives cold
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water is when you drink it, your body has to
warm it up, and you waste energy by having to
warm up the water. So Joe Michula would make he
would love that. Yeah, he would want to challenge him.
But yeah, I think I think to your point John earlier,
just like those little nuggets that come out that you're like, Okay,
that's something I want to go a little deeper on,
and then you never know what's going to come out
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of that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I noticed that no one has mentioned this current team
of players as their favorite stories, because this is the
most buttoned up, professional, don't tell you a thing type
of team.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You have to go back to Marcus and I.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
T and well, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
My favorite moment of all time was an al Horford
interview in Cleveland during the playoffs, and it was the
first time he'd ever been in a lebron James team.
They did it in Cleveland, and it was the only
time I've ever seen Al like out of.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
His Yeah, it.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Was he was still on the floor. Yeah, and it
was experience, yes, And it was just that is who
Alan is on the floor. That's not who we get
to see, that's not who we talked to. But he
was still in that moment and it is the most
un al like moment that I have experienced with him.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And it was just so genuine and pure and it
was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'll just throw out there that I think that's more al.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Than we really think.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
That is l he just has the ability to to what.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm saying just now, Like all of these guys, like
when we leave the locker room, I'm sure are just
incredible person Yeah, just they have this incredible ability to
just like but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Even Jason, right like, I don't think any franchise better
than I don't think any of us personally know like
the real Jason that he is in his day to
day life, because he's just doing media with us, and.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Every once in a while we're standing there waiting for
a scrum and you hear him talking to a couple
of his friends and you're like, oh personality. Look at this,
He's joking and busting chops and all that stuff. You're like, oh,
why can't you do that with us? And he comes
up to us and it's like, yeah, you know, just
trying to get better.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Come on. He lets it out in his commercials.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Though.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
At least this is the velvet rope nature of and
the evolution of the league. In Max's days, they were
flying commercial you know, you'd be with him in the airports.
The media would fly with them. So obviously, you know,
Abby and I we get to see things that people
aren't going to see that even general media isn't going
to see it in quote unquote real lives.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But the best stories.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
And the reason we're not talking about it because that
team won the championship and they were meticulous and they
weren't touched last year and they walked backwards into it
and it's great and it'll be remembered forever like the
O eight team will. But it's the little stories like
Isaiah's sister, of the thousands of games that I've now
done and I've called championships and all of it, I
to this day vividly remember when you said, think of
a moment. The one that pops into my head was
(22:20):
Leon Poe playing for the Celtics as a rookie, just
trying to find his way.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We get to Oakland where he grew up.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Outside the Old Oracle Arena, they would have flea markets
every weekend. He and his mother would go there to
make ends meet. They would sell things at the flea
market outside this arena. And I got to be there
to call the moment when he walked onto that floor
as an NBA players offs and that still gives me
a little gooit like because the championships are great and
it's what's going to be remembered forever. But Isaiah coming
(22:51):
here and starting his career over again in the most
symbiotic relationship I've ever seen in the NBA. The Celtics
needed him, he needed the Celtics and it was the
perfect match. Those are the stories that you tell. Those
are the goosebump moments, and that's what makes fans and
what they remember.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'll throw one.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Moment out, but two of the same night, the championship night,
Joe coming out with his wife walking around hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I was out in the arena. I love working
in the media. Section in the.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Arena when everything is done and gone, and he's kind
of like a big office.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's so great.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
So Joe was out there walking around with his wife
and that was a nice moment, and he's like, I
asked him about it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
He's like, I thought we were alone, like new No,
I don't know. Three hundred people in there and then.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Four in the morning or so, and you know, we're
still writing, we're still doing stuff and like just about
wrapping up. Confetti's still on the floor and Jalen walks
in post party, so he's celebrated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And he walks in.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And like like the guards down and he's got his
friends with him and the MVP trophy and he just
walks out and he's just smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He's like, what a beautiful site.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You guys are playing ball. There are a couple of
people ship around.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, and he like got the ball and was like,
all right, what are you doun Like, Jalen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Please don't tell you do not do I was like, not,
don't dunk on me.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Please don't try to take a step right now, because
there's configion all over the floor.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You've been celebrating a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I don't want the story to have that I have
to tell to be like, why did Jalen Brown get hurt?
Why is he in crutches on the duck boat. He
did not do that, thankfully, But that moment of Jalen
kind of taking it in like the most real, genuine moment.
So I have to share that just because it is
of the current team and it's like Jalen just soaking
it in and just what a beautiful sight.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was a great You said there was another one?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Is there another one?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That one in the Joe Joe walking around? Yeah, that's
I mean to your point, Like, the genuine moments are
the ones that I mean, all of the team gets
to see behind closed doors. The guys are completely genuine there,
but they just have their guard up a little bit
when they're around the media, so we don't always get
to see who they really are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's a different story.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
That's a different story.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, he's winking to the fans. Yeah, you know what
we have seen, Jason.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
You do see a moment every night because when he
locks eyes with Deuce, or when Dukes runs over to
Duke runs over to him in the middle of a game,
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's because that's that's the guy. That's his entire adult life.
He has. We've all had adult lives at some level
before kids. He hasn't. I don't think j has well yeah, yeah,
I mean he's ail over there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Come on, I'm still a child with a child. The kid.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm still a child with a child.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I love it.
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lot of players who have come through the revolving door
since we've all been around this team, and I think
(25:57):
this might be a little bit of a debate.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Who's everyone's favorite? Woked?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I mean, Mark Smart is pretty high up there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'll just go Robert.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Williams, Oh never again?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh ahead?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
God?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Who had twenty six minutes? Is that a record for camera?
It is?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
It's easy to forget when Rob first got here, he
was very still Louisiana Bull who.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like he got here a little late by the way,
Well you did.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
And that to me was endearing too, because again, there's
what we're all the The whole crux of this conversation
has been trying to find a human element to these players,
and sometimes they're just so otherworldly and talented and big
and that we'd like forgetting your wallet when before you
go to sign the MDA contract. It's like somewhat endearing.
But Rob didn't have a filter, and so Rob would
(26:48):
do interviews and like every other word was was a
curse word, to the point where Austin Age had to
walk over and be.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Like, fuck, I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey you He.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Was just like, maybe tone down the amount of f
words in there.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And we're all like, no, we love to bleep it.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
He was just earnest and honest and like I loved
everything about the way Rob talk and like you know,
from the setbacks to like when there were good times.
He was just such a good quote in terms of
like you knew you're going to get genuine history and
I could you know he could throw his a in
there and all that, but like, uh, definitely, just like
when people don't put that guard up and they just
(27:24):
speak with what they feel. And from Chris Tops to
Rob all Off, injured centers are the guys answer.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
There's one obvious.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
One of them, he was one of the funniest Celtic
that so quick witted, hilarious. The other one is Marcus Moore,
That's the one.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Morris was just no bs, another guy who slid a
cuss word in there every other, every other sentence.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
At the very.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Least, he would also just tell you the truth. I
remember there was one night they blew like a twenty
six point lead against the Clippers and we could see
in the most game locker room Marcus Moore was just
doing and so we were like, we gotta talk. We
got oh yeah, and it took a while to get
to him, and we were like, we're gonna wait. There
(28:20):
was there was a little time when I think pr
was trying to finesse us and get us out of
the locker room before he could talk. And that was
when he told us that they just weren't having any
fun present.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Like all of a sudden, he sorted, oh wait, they
have all this talent, but they're never harnessing it. And
it was it was it was like that aha moment
of oh boy, this is this is worse when.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We think, who who does that sound like? Before this
current regime, I mean, you were around well were number forty.
I to was that guy in the locker room every night.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
He was that guy I remember. I mean, how many
times did I share a live mike with Kevin Garnett.
That's the definition of walking a tightrope. And there were
some there were some crazy things. I mean I'd also
go off the board for the one year for Rashid
Rashid Wah, who was amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You know, that's that the only player I was just
going to drink beer on the plane. He was just
da used to.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
There's waiting after Yeah, yeah, Abby, who's your favorite quote?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's so hard. I want to go way back.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
I mean Jim Crowder was also really good about being
honest whenever you asked him questions. Uh, And I mean
everyone is just always so generous to their time.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I'm gonna go way back my first season.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Gerald Wallace, sure, I think any of us would have
had bingo card.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Low slow drawl, just very like I could remember games
where he'd be like in jeans with like forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Everybody else is like warming up.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Gerald just just waiting to go have practice when they
when they stretch and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He would just be like sleeping on the floor and
still like he was a great leader, great to know
exactly what you're talking he was.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He wasn't a great app while everyone else was practicing. Yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He was. He was older at that time. He had
a rest up saving his energy all Hayward.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
That first year. If not for the levity and leadership
that Joe Wall.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But I can't believe I'm actually embarrassed by the fact
that no one else has said who I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Going to say?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Maybe it's just recency biased, but Luke Cornett, he's the
funniest guy. Maybe in the NBA toned.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It down this year. He's not trying to be a
little button ups.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Not on the sport though.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
He's got funny He did the silent night thing before
you know, he said Merry Christmas to everybody. But when
he's actually talking to us on the podium, I don't
think he's he has that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
That's why you got to get him in a one
on one, one on one environment.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's gold.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's quick.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
We brought him on after, you know, af for a
game when I usually play a highlight coming out of
the commercial with the guy that we're going to be
talking to, and in the highlight he had had this
dominant stretch and I'd called him Kareem abdual Cornette or
something like that, and.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
As soon as we come on, he goes.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
You know, I always thought to myself more as Luke
al cinders.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
As quick as anybody.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
One regret I have too, is that Jeff Tigue was
here during one of the COVID years when we weren't
all out in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And now we know, because.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Now we know he's like the greatest storyteller there is,
and we only got him on like a couple of
zoom calls and we weren't able to really pick his
brain at all.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That year, they had stuff going on the jumbo tron
where the players were asked on like media Day of
who the funniest guy on the team was, and everyone
was like Jeff Tigue, And I'm like, what, Like, I
didn't I didn't know that he was that guy. Now
I know from watching his podcast that that dude is funny.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Okay, we should get him next time.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, we'll try to get him out. We don't have
a lot of time left. We've covered a lot, by
the way, everyone, we're recording this before New Year's Eve,
so we got a few games to play before this
episode comes out. But from everyone's perspective looking on the court,
which we haven't talked a whole lot about during this pod,
what should the celthis New Year's resolutions be as they
head into twenty twenty five trying to get out of
(32:14):
a little bit of a rut here that they've had
over the past week or two.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Defense?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, is that that's it. It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's a play some defense. It'll be nice.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But Joe just said the other day like he loved
the way the defense played against Orlando.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well that's what he's talking Moss.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, but like, look he can We just talked about
Joe being honest.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You're telling me.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm straightforward. He is a little bit no.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I like you can say like he'll pull out stats
and they'll say, I remember I asked him once about
defensive issues, you know, a few weeks ago, and he
was like, oh, we're number one, inexpected, blah blah blah.
I was like, okay, yeah, but you still can get better.
And he's like, you can get better than number one. Okay,
I guess you're like all right, Like that's you, Lily.
He had like, right, remember that time when he was
(33:02):
like he was actually like keeping score and scrums like
I win this conversation. But anyway, yeah, no, play some defense.
They or consistently and I get it right. It's it's
the twenty twenty four portion. And you know, Drew Holliday
is a little older, and he's coming off a short
off season and Olympics and you know haven't had KP
and all of that stuff. But to get to where
(33:24):
they are going to be ultimately and where we all,
I think expect them to be in June, they got
to get back to that defensive mentality and kind of
locking down more than you know, a few minutes a game.
They can't just rely on their shooting to get them
through some games, because that's you know, with so many
three point shots, not to not like rare expected shooting
(33:47):
would get them these they're expected shooting, but the expected
doesn't always go in, and the three is prone to
slumps just by the nature of the shot. So I'd
like to see a little bit more of that defense
presence kind of show up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I actually think something that people haven't talked about a
lot this month. While and again we're in December here,
something that's contributed to this these recent struggles, if you
want to throw some air quotes around, it is that
the NBA Cup in the schedule, I actually think removed
a little bit of their rhythm. And then in addition
to that, they've had guys in and out of the land.
They haven't had a consistent lineup really all of them
(34:23):
last year the NBA. Yeah, and I think it will
in the long run, Like I think Tatum having that
week off, especially like you talked about short off season
for Drew Holliday, Jason got that whole week off, Al
Horford got a whole week off. Like, I think in
the long run, those are going to help. But in
the short term it kind of threw a little kink
into the into the armor in terms of having a
(34:43):
rhythm this year.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
That is my resolution is for health.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Obviously that is the most obvious and love hanging fruit.
But yes, and I think after that loss, the first
time they lost back to back games against Philadelphia on
Christmas Day was the first time we've ever heard them
talk about the fact that there are a lot of
moving pieces when it comes to the little and whether it's
Christops for zingis missing that first month of the season
or even I think Sam Hauser's injury being in and
(35:06):
out and not having that reliable three point shooter coming
off the bench is has been understated.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
And he's still dealing.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
With that back issue and it's something that I think
is going to continue to affect him for the rest
of the season, and so and now Christop's dealing with
the minor spring ankle. And while they've been they were
so lucky with health last year, and I know Christops
was in and out, but it is just so important
and so much of that has to deal with luck
(35:35):
and if they can stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
By the way, last year was the first time that
they actually had luck in that department.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I don't want to drink it.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I feel like I should.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I need to knock on.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I would say, just don't get bored with it.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Yeah, I think they've taken a right attitude toward repeating
this year. They came into training teams that had a great,
great mindset, they came into the regular season had a
great mindset. I think we've seen that dip a little
bit in the last week or two. We're jameson and
and I know it must be harder to stay motivated
day after day when you've already won a championship, when
(36:08):
you know that your best is good enough, when you're
not fighting back against history and the last eight years
or six years, whatever it was for different guys, where
you've gone to the conference finals, you've gone to the finals,
you've always fallen short. So now they know their best
is good enough. They just have to stay with it
day to day and keep building those habits the way
they did last year. Because last year they were by
(36:29):
far the most consistent team in the league at home,
away against top five, against better than five hundred team
against words than five hundred teams. It did not matter.
They were the best and most consistent.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Getting met who was out there, didn't matter the roadblock.
It was always they found a way. And I think
that's the whole thing motivation, right, Like it's tough, the
whole I know, Joe stiff armed our whole target on
the back thing, that's not a thing. But every night
it feels like the other team is coming for him.
So I just want to see them be able to
And I get it, like you can't accomplish your ultimate
Colton June, so like, how do you find that motivation
(37:00):
every single night in December and January and the dol
drums that you gotta find it, and this team is
so good at it last year and staying locked in
and never letting things faster. My resolution would just be
for them to kind of tap into that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Again.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Here's the difference.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
The target on the back isn't new because the Celtics
have been a target for the last several years because
they've been at an eight team. Now, the way they
have been playing and winning has become targeted, starting with
that Golden State game early in the year when the
Warriors were going to run them off the three point line.
You have teams that have changed the way their roster composition,
teams like Atlanta and Orlando. We're going to have all
these long athletic guys. The Celtics now, now that they
(37:35):
have won, they're not just a target. They're also the
standard you have to beat the way they play to
beat them, and you have the rest of the league
is now geared up, so it's not just getting up
to play a big game every night. Now you a
lot of teams have geared up specifically to stop the
way the Celtics win.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
And that's been pretty parent.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
This is why Joe said, I think on my podcast,
I hope we see the red dot on the forehead.
We've en credit when we're talking about it.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Come on, guys, Yeah, seriously, only one podcast had YO
this summer.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
So I think I think the reason why he said
that is to Jay's point, when you see that you're
being targeted, that's going to make you kind of like, Okay,
we have to we have to rise to the challenge
of being targeted and complacency. That was an off season
storyline and it does continue to be a storyline, especially
(38:27):
when you see, like against Philly, like the defense wasn't
there and then in the last three and a half
minutes of the game, all of a sudden it was
you know, Tyree s Max all of a sudden can't
get the ball over half court for two three possessions'
Like that's that's the defense right there. The complacency is
guys love to say human nature a lot is one
of Jason Tatum's favorite phrases. I think the human nature
(38:49):
element is definitely part of it and why Joe wants
them to feel that being targeted so they can play
a more intense a brand of basketball and not be like, oh,
we're we're we're going to be fine. He wants them
to not feel fine. And it makes me wonder what
kind of sun crick Joe is. Yeah, what's Joe going
(39:11):
to do in January?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's aunt Chris is like, how does he keep them
amped up that head into you?
Speaker 7 (39:19):
He gets paid a lot of money. He can figure
that out.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You feel like Gladiator.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
He's just gonna have tigers hidden underneath the floor and
just let them out.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
We know the way he does it, right, Like he
breaks up the year into little chunks, and so when
you guys are watching this, it'll be a new chunk
of the year for Joe and he'll have something like
something they're kind of striving towards to fuel them and
they've got to all kind of buy into that. But
he will find something that you know, gets them back
on that that focus.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, Hey, we're hitting like four. That's the most important part.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
People.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Everybody voted home, which will oh no, hold on no, I.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Was just like, it's the first off text correct itself,
expansive proto all these different podcasts. You're the real heroes
out there if you made it this far, and this podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Holds if you be as far in this podcast. The
most important thing to take away is that of all
of the podcasts represented up here, only one of them
has not gotten Joe Missoula. You got some work to do.
He just draw an ice bath, buddy, he'll be there.
We knew this was going to be the you know,
jump on Jay's head.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Shout out to all the other Celtics podcasts.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, yeah, we can only fit six. As you can see,
we're filling the space up.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Robin Packard.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, so o s Max. Let's go down the line.
Where can everyone find the pods and make sure that
they're able to tune in and find what you guys.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Still go to patreon dot com slash still Poddible sign up,
become a kid or god or a legend Forrestburgh.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
If you don't know, I can't help you.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Locked on Celtics. It's free, free, five days a week.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And it thinks together.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
We started the cast together and then I jet us
in the dead weight.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I love to have to be fair.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, there there's no dead weight here with you from
the rafters. We are at YouTube dot com slash Boston Celtics.
You can find us on all the podcast platforms. Thank
you guys for coming on. This has been an awesome crossover.
I think the biggest mega podcast crossover that will ever
happen in the sou.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
The event of the season, it is it is all.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Might say, so thank you all for watching. We appreciate
you for listening and watching all of our podcast across
the board, and hope you're all having a great start
to the new year.
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