December 3, 2024 • 16 mins
Derrick White and Jrue Holiday react to their nickname “The Stock Exchange,” and say they need some suggestions from Celtics Nation about a Stock Exchange hand shake. They dive into what it’s like playing defense alongside one another, including Jrue’s disbelief at how Derrick blocks shots in so many ways as a guard. They also discuss how they communicate to each other in the middle of games, and give their takes on what makes both a great individual defender and a great team defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to season five of You from the Rafters. Behind
the scenes with the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're sitting here having these conversations.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Which one sticks out to you?
Speaker 4 (00:08):
What do we crap?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, we just want a championship. That probably happens a lot.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We're doing this every year, right, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Never thought of it that way now, I thought it
was cool.
Speaker 5 (00:15):
I was impressed, Thank you for that to be a
part of that winning atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We do not give financial advice here on View from
the Rafts, but we do talk about the Stock Exchange.
It is the Stock Exchange episode with Drew Holliday and
Derek White and Sean Grand He's over there as well.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The nickname the Stock Exchange just came out at some
point last season. What did you think about that when
when it rolled in and you heard it. Your dad
might have had a little bit to do with that
as well.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He has a lot to do with everything.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I think he came up with it. So I was like,
did you really come everywhere? Did you see it somewhere?
He said, no, I thought of himself. So I was
impressed by his creativity.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So Drew, Drew liked it. So there we go Drew.
Would you think when when Derek told you, nah, I.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Thought it was cool again his dad thinking of it.
That's yeah, super coot it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a unique things to put out on social media
for anyone who doesn't understand why they're called the stock exchange.
Steals blocks you combine them stocks. These guys had two
hundred and seventy five of them last season just between
the two of you. You were one of just two
backcourts in the NBA to log two hundred and seventy
five or more stocks combined, So congrats on that. But
(01:29):
you were also one of only four starting backcourts in
the last forty years to be selected to the All
Defensive team in the same season, so that's a pretty
significant accomplishment. Why do you think you guys are so
good together defensively?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I mean, well, dey'rek easy to play with. I think
how he approaches the game, not just offensively, but defensively.
He makes reads that are I mean nobody else can
do You see how he will come over a screen
and just block a shot or uh chase down and
like chase down somebody in block a shot or coming
(02:06):
black a shot. I feel like his instincts on the
defensive end make it easy for me to react. So
if he's not getting a block, I guess I'm trying
to get a still because I'm not going to beat
him in blocks.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, although you weren't that far behind.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, but I know last year, in fact, you had
your highest block total in the last five seasons with
fifty three, So it was I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It off a little bit when it matters, when there's
ten seconds to go in the playoff game.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Blocked, it's blocked for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But I mean Drew's instincts are crazy too, Like you
get beat and then this, you know Drew's there and
getting deflection, just active hands and uh, I mean he
makes it easy for for all of us. So it's
nice having him on our side. And uh, just comic
creating havoc.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Did you know instinctively how it was going to work?
And here's what I get out. Everyone went, two great
offensive players suddenly run the same team. People say, how's
it going to work? How are they going to fit together?
But nobody ever brings that up. When it's two great
defensive players you've played against each other. I think it's
eighteen times you had played against each other beforehand, I
imagine you had a pretty good idea this is gonna work.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, I think knowing Derek and seeing the way
he plays, and I mean I think just playing basketball
for a long time, you definitely can tell who you
mess with and get along with. Not did I think
that we played well together? Yeah, but I mean like
defensive lead that I know it go this.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I don't know, Well, you never know.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
We just have them. Like you said, we just created havy.
We just hand people. Sometimes we might get beat, but
it's all with the intent of making people's lives hell.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So you think that too.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, we
just compete at a high level, and I just think
like our care factor is that high, especially on the
defensive end. So I mean for forty eight minutes, like
people might get take advantage of it sometimes, but at
the long run, and it's a big moments and then
(04:01):
that's when, especially when you like make some big play,
make a big moment.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Go ahead, Mark run the list.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We we did some separate individual research thinking about well
Drew must have he's paired with some.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Great for a while and then I started with some
elite defenders and.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm like, uh, Jay Rich, Tyreek Evans, a lot of
Eric Gordon. I'm like, shout out Evan Turner, right, And
these are not great NBA players, not players you think
of as elite defensive players that you play with.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
This a little bit of a change of pace. You
had someone with this mindset.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, I think I think it is different having somebody
in the back court with you. Usually it's like a garden.
It's usually a garden in the big Yeah, a garden
of big like a point guard in the five or
something like that. Somebody who like kind of hounds in
the back court and the protect the room. I mean,
I guess we got that. Yeah, that too, I guess
we got that. But uh yeah, yeah, I mean it's again,
(04:57):
it's fun. It's a different dynamic. And I feel like, uh,
it's not like we're competing with each other to like
beat each other. It's like we're competing with each other
to see like how great we can be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You guys did have a little bit of a thing
before the season, though, right of like who was going
to grab the most steals or blocks or something was
is that?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I mean, I definitely. Like I said, I definitely knew
he was going to get the blocks. I think after
I really saw him like blocking shots just from three
point shots being blocked after he's chasing over a screen
or after like over a screen and blocking two like
two pointers, I'm like, yeah, I'm not I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
See the smile.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He's gonna get the steels though, one on one, Yeah,
it's a balance, it's a tiebreak or somewhere. Was there
a moment though, when you guys, like obviously when the
trade happened, you're probably like, Okay, we're going to be
a really good duo defending. But was there a moment
in a game, preseason practice, anything where you guys were
just like, okay, like oppose opposition or opposing backcourts are
(05:57):
going to have a real tough time when they're playing
against Tess.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I don't know if there's an exact moment, but you
just kind of see like just the way teams like
react when Drew is on them and just kind of
brings that different dynamic to our team defensively, and especially
like how well JB J T KP like across the bat.
A lot of guys that can just guard at a
high level. I mean, even like Sam and Peyton, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Sam shout out Sam, the underrated defender in the league.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
White guys, our white guys guard, Yeah, for sure, and so.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Like it's just everybody's competing at a high level on
that end, and you don't want to be that guy.
So but like Ada and Drew, he's just automatically just
improve your defense just based off of the ball pressure
and just the instincts that he has.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
As the chemistry was brewing and developing, did you guys
come up with like a handshake? Do you guys have
one of those? Going into No, we got to get
like a you got no handshake, we don't. We got
to get like a financial handshake or something. It's gotta
be yea, like you're handing over information or something, yeah,
or just yeah, a little.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Bit of yea.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Maybe you can talk to your daddy can figure something
out for you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You got you got some skills.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't know about handshare with all of the handshakes
though that happened in like the pregame line. I'm shocked
that you guys don't have one.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I mean, it's hard to think of the stock exchange
again brops stock handshake.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We will also ask the fans to send into submissions.
We'll relate, let us know people.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Watch the games, that they're listening to us, whatever. Everybody
takes the games in a different way. There's never been
more access in the NBA. We're sitting here having these conversations.
There's you know, Celtics today, Celtics this minute. Here's one
thing people I think watching games, especially kids, don't understand
how important talking to each other and the verbal communication
that goes on, particularly on the defensive end. Andrew, you
(07:53):
have an interesting perspective because you always talked about this
when you came here, that you were always out front
and everything was going on behind you, and that's changed
a little bit. But for for young kids watching who
want to become great defenders, I suppose you cannot stress
how important it is to be able to communicate verbally
with the guys you're playing with and have that connection.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
For sure, I think we've shown it, even though our
offense is probably the best offense in the league last
year and for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Our history, by the way, not just less sorry sorry sort.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Our defense was really good and I think a lot
of it is communication, knowing what we want to do
on the court, knowing how we're going to switch or
do schemes, knowing what like tendencies just like to have
on offense, like we have tendencies on defense. Like there's
ways that I like to kind of I'm gonna if
I know I'm going to bait somebody, I'd like to
go maybe this way compared to that way. But the
(08:46):
communication I feel like we have, Uh, it's a lot.
But sometimes it's like it's not verbal. Sometimes it's the
way you move. Sometimes it's me reading Derek and something
that he does, and I can react to what he's doing,
knowing that if I react that way, he reacts to
what I do. I think that that comes with time
and being able to play with each other on the
(09:08):
court for time. But like I said earlier, or like
you said earlier, verbally, having somebody behind you telling you
where to go, what to do, this guy's coming. I
grew up in an era where you had KG just
killing you on screens.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I would love to know that this man is about
to come in on my right side and kill me
so I can learn how to get around the screen.
So I think it's huge.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Did you get that communication back in the.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Day, No, that's I think that's how it became such
a good defender, Like avoiding screens because because yeah, I mean,
and you can move you know, kg, They were just
lett him do whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh yeah, he was known instead a moving screen all
the time.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Stick that hip out all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Name drove right there.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What do you guys think just what makes a great
perimeter defender?
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I think, like you said, just knowing what what the
game plan is going in, what we're trying to take away,
especially at this level, Like guys are so good, they're
gonna score, they're gonna get their numbers, But how can
we limit them having a crazy night?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
How can we keep them off the free throw line?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So just knowing, like what makes guys comfortable makes them successful,
and just try to limit them as much as you can.
And I think just on the ball, just understanding that.
But then off ball, just be in the right position,
just showing a crowd see your masters doesn't feel like
he's on an island out there, and just a bunch
(10:43):
of little things like that that, uh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Not feeling like you on the island is a great feeling. Yeah,
for sure, especially with guys how they play, like, especially
how they play today going one to one so much
knowing that you have like your boys is with you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
What do you guys teach the kids when it comes
to defense? I teach them slide your feet.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's sliding. I think it's being reactionary.
There are times where you know personnel, you know what
the guy's tendencies, but there are times where you're gonna
have to be able to react to the moves that
they make. And you can work on that, like doing
reactionary drills and trying to do certain drills like that,
(11:23):
or even playing one on one all the time and
playing against good offensive players. Again, you can, you can
work on anything. So being able to do that is
I think I think that helped me out a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
A lot of it is natural, but kids, you can
also develop their skills.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So make sure you put in the work, effort and effort.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This is hardro talking about getting screened and getting blindsided
by seven foot bodies.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I would say that's hard. And there's conversation. How
much conversation is there? Okay, there's steph, you're guarding Steph.
You know, Drew, there's cerfer different ways you're gonna put
You're gonna fight through a screen.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You're not going to get him room.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's an island you don't want to be on, right,
So how much discussion is there before games between the
two of you about certain individual players and their tendencies
and where the two of you are going to.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Have to be.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah, I think you have those discussions. And then I
also think you have them during the game. Sometimes there's
a obviously you have great players, and it's not like
there's just one thing that this great player can do,
So sometimes you have to just mid game. And that's
also where the communication comes in. I tell Derek, like,
if I do this and I send him this way,
you take him and I'll go to you know what
I mean. Being able to have that type of trust
(12:36):
and communication in game is also important.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
How often does that actually happen? Like, were you guys?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It's quite a bit.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, especially like like if someone's gotta going or something
was like, yeah, I've noticed he likes to shoot it
going left or something of that, or if we could
top lock him or something getting away from the screen.
So just kind of seeing how the game flow is,
and just kind of reading and reacting off of that
and just having that dialogue of what you see out
(13:05):
there and how we could just make things a little
bit more difficult.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The reason I asked that is because after games the
fan base, anytime the word adjustments comes up, it's always
associated with like Joe and the coaching staff, and they're like, oh,
they didn't make adjustments, or they did make adjustments, whatever.
But I guess what you guys are saying is that
on top of the coaches making certain adjustments, you guys
are also making adjustments on the court with each other,
(13:29):
like on the fly.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, I think, but I think Joe and our coaching
staff gives us like that freedom and that ability and
that trust to make those adjustments.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Which you've talked about since you got here. That's one
of your favorite parts about Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, you have some coaches who are pretty strict with
what they want to do defensively, but I think giving
us the trust because we are on the court and
we do we might see something differently or at a
different time. Being able to do that is super important.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So I love when you roll your eyes whenever Joe's
name comes up. That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There's an instant reaction now it has let there's so
almost so much comfort and trust now that you guys
are comfortable with the things that make Joe Joe, and
there's almost an open minded to it, like, oh, we're
gonna watch this thing that the Navy Seals talked about
doing whatever, Okay, because that's Joe and it's you know,
(14:23):
it's not just all in fun. There's he has such
a belief in you and such trust in you that
whatever he comes up with, it's like, all right, Joe,
we'll do austin you do you.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Pretty much?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He let Joe's us and we all got the same
goal of mind, and I mean, I think that's what's
just the fun part about it is everybody's unique. Everybody's
got their own different way of doing things, and at
the end of the day, like we're all together, we
all have the same mission and allows us do special things.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
His is definitely you his way of doing things. One
last question before we let you guys go. We've talked
about the stock exchange for the entire episode, but as
a team, like, what do you think made you guys
so great defensively last year? That got you over that
hump got you that eighteenth championship that you're trying to
trickle into this season as well. Uh, I would say,
(15:22):
and I'm talking defensive obviously, right, Like what did you guess?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Is just.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think it's just pride, like pride knowing that like individually,
I don't want to I don't want to get beat.
I want to guard my man and I want to
do the best I can, and knowing that, like sometimes
you might have games where like I mean, I've gotten
torch for forty points or whatever. But I think it's
just pride one on one being able to guard another
(15:48):
layer is pride as a as a unit, being able
to know like if I get beat, Derek has my back,
but he has to want to do that too. You
know what I'm saying. I got to do the best
I can, to do what I'm supposed to do if
like worst come the worst, I know that my man
has my back. I think that we really built this
(16:09):
connection and this trust that if any of that stuff happens, like,
it's okay, Like if it goes to fire, like if
things start catching fire, like we'll get we'll get the
fire out as a team, not just as one person.
So I think our trust, our communication for each other
was there.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Last year and that's what makes the Celtics defense great,
that's what makes the stock exchange great. You guys, I
appreciate you coming on and we are certain we're going
to get back to you guys with some handshake recommendations
because it has to happen. The Celtics fan base has
got to get us something. So thanks for coming on again,
good luck the rest of the season, and we'll be
feeding you those handshakes very soon.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Appreciate it, looking forward to it.
Welcome to season five of You from the Rafters. Behind
the scenes with the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're sitting here having these conversations.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Which one sticks out to you?
Speaker 4 (00:08):
What do we crap?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, we just want a championship. That probably happens a lot.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We're doing this every year, right, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Never thought of it that way now, I thought it
was cool.
Speaker 5 (00:15):
I was impressed, Thank you for that to be a
part of that winning atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We do not give financial advice here on View from
the Rafts, but we do talk about the Stock Exchange.
It is the Stock Exchange episode with Drew Holliday and
Derek White and Sean Grand He's over there as well.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The nickname the Stock Exchange just came out at some
point last season. What did you think about that when
when it rolled in and you heard it. Your dad
might have had a little bit to do with that
as well.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He has a lot to do with everything.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I think he came up with it. So I was like,
did you really come everywhere? Did you see it somewhere?
He said, no, I thought of himself. So I was
impressed by his creativity.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So Drew, Drew liked it. So there we go Drew.
Would you think when when Derek told you, nah, I.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Thought it was cool again his dad thinking of it.
That's yeah, super coot it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a unique things to put out on social media
for anyone who doesn't understand why they're called the stock exchange.
Steals blocks you combine them stocks. These guys had two
hundred and seventy five of them last season just between
the two of you. You were one of just two
backcourts in the NBA to log two hundred and seventy
five or more stocks combined, So congrats on that. But
(01:29):
you were also one of only four starting backcourts in
the last forty years to be selected to the All
Defensive team in the same season, so that's a pretty
significant accomplishment. Why do you think you guys are so
good together defensively?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I mean, well, dey'rek easy to play with. I think
how he approaches the game, not just offensively, but defensively.
He makes reads that are I mean nobody else can
do You see how he will come over a screen
and just block a shot or uh chase down and
like chase down somebody in block a shot or coming
(02:06):
black a shot. I feel like his instincts on the
defensive end make it easy for me to react. So
if he's not getting a block, I guess I'm trying
to get a still because I'm not going to beat
him in blocks.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, although you weren't that far behind.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, but I know last year, in fact, you had
your highest block total in the last five seasons with
fifty three, So it was I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It off a little bit when it matters, when there's
ten seconds to go in the playoff game.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Blocked, it's blocked for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But I mean Drew's instincts are crazy too, Like you
get beat and then this, you know Drew's there and
getting deflection, just active hands and uh, I mean he
makes it easy for for all of us. So it's
nice having him on our side. And uh, just comic
creating havoc.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Did you know instinctively how it was going to work?
And here's what I get out. Everyone went, two great
offensive players suddenly run the same team. People say, how's
it going to work? How are they going to fit together?
But nobody ever brings that up. When it's two great
defensive players you've played against each other. I think it's
eighteen times you had played against each other beforehand, I
imagine you had a pretty good idea this is gonna work.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, I think knowing Derek and seeing the way
he plays, and I mean I think just playing basketball
for a long time, you definitely can tell who you
mess with and get along with. Not did I think
that we played well together? Yeah, but I mean like
defensive lead that I know it go this.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I don't know, Well, you never know.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
We just have them. Like you said, we just created havy.
We just hand people. Sometimes we might get beat, but
it's all with the intent of making people's lives hell.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So you think that too.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, we
just compete at a high level, and I just think
like our care factor is that high, especially on the
defensive end. So I mean for forty eight minutes, like
people might get take advantage of it sometimes, but at
the long run, and it's a big moments and then
(04:01):
that's when, especially when you like make some big play,
make a big moment.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Go ahead, Mark run the list.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We we did some separate individual research thinking about well
Drew must have he's paired with some.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Great for a while and then I started with some
elite defenders and.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm like, uh, Jay Rich, Tyreek Evans, a lot of
Eric Gordon. I'm like, shout out Evan Turner, right, And
these are not great NBA players, not players you think
of as elite defensive players that you play with.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
This a little bit of a change of pace. You
had someone with this mindset.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, I think I think it is different having somebody
in the back court with you. Usually it's like a garden.
It's usually a garden in the big Yeah, a garden
of big like a point guard in the five or
something like that. Somebody who like kind of hounds in
the back court and the protect the room. I mean,
I guess we got that. Yeah, that too, I guess
we got that. But uh yeah, yeah, I mean it's again,
(04:57):
it's fun. It's a different dynamic. And I feel like, uh,
it's not like we're competing with each other to like
beat each other. It's like we're competing with each other
to see like how great we can be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You guys did have a little bit of a thing
before the season, though, right of like who was going
to grab the most steals or blocks or something was
is that?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I mean, I definitely. Like I said, I definitely knew
he was going to get the blocks. I think after
I really saw him like blocking shots just from three
point shots being blocked after he's chasing over a screen
or after like over a screen and blocking two like
two pointers, I'm like, yeah, I'm not I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
See the smile.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He's gonna get the steels though, one on one, Yeah,
it's a balance, it's a tiebreak or somewhere. Was there
a moment though, when you guys, like obviously when the
trade happened, you're probably like, Okay, we're going to be
a really good duo defending. But was there a moment
in a game, preseason practice, anything where you guys were
just like, okay, like oppose opposition or opposing backcourts are
(05:57):
going to have a real tough time when they're playing
against Tess.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I don't know if there's an exact moment, but you
just kind of see like just the way teams like
react when Drew is on them and just kind of
brings that different dynamic to our team defensively, and especially
like how well JB J T KP like across the bat.
A lot of guys that can just guard at a
high level. I mean, even like Sam and Peyton, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Sam shout out Sam, the underrated defender in the league.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
White guys, our white guys guard, Yeah, for sure, and so.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Like it's just everybody's competing at a high level on
that end, and you don't want to be that guy.
So but like Ada and Drew, he's just automatically just
improve your defense just based off of the ball pressure
and just the instincts that he has.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
As the chemistry was brewing and developing, did you guys
come up with like a handshake? Do you guys have
one of those? Going into No, we got to get
like a you got no handshake, we don't. We got
to get like a financial handshake or something. It's gotta
be yea, like you're handing over information or something, yeah,
or just yeah, a little.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Bit of yea.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Maybe you can talk to your daddy can figure something
out for you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You got you got some skills.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't know about handshare with all of the handshakes
though that happened in like the pregame line. I'm shocked
that you guys don't have one.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I mean, it's hard to think of the stock exchange
again brops stock handshake.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We will also ask the fans to send into submissions.
We'll relate, let us know people.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Watch the games, that they're listening to us, whatever. Everybody
takes the games in a different way. There's never been
more access in the NBA. We're sitting here having these conversations.
There's you know, Celtics today, Celtics this minute. Here's one
thing people I think watching games, especially kids, don't understand
how important talking to each other and the verbal communication
that goes on, particularly on the defensive end. Andrew, you
(07:53):
have an interesting perspective because you always talked about this
when you came here, that you were always out front
and everything was going on behind you, and that's changed
a little bit. But for for young kids watching who
want to become great defenders, I suppose you cannot stress
how important it is to be able to communicate verbally
with the guys you're playing with and have that connection.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
For sure, I think we've shown it, even though our
offense is probably the best offense in the league last
year and for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Our history, by the way, not just less sorry sorry sort.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Our defense was really good and I think a lot
of it is communication, knowing what we want to do
on the court, knowing how we're going to switch or
do schemes, knowing what like tendencies just like to have
on offense, like we have tendencies on defense. Like there's
ways that I like to kind of I'm gonna if
I know I'm going to bait somebody, I'd like to
go maybe this way compared to that way. But the
(08:46):
communication I feel like we have, Uh, it's a lot.
But sometimes it's like it's not verbal. Sometimes it's the
way you move. Sometimes it's me reading Derek and something
that he does, and I can react to what he's doing,
knowing that if I react that way, he reacts to
what I do. I think that that comes with time
and being able to play with each other on the
(09:08):
court for time. But like I said earlier, or like
you said earlier, verbally, having somebody behind you telling you
where to go, what to do, this guy's coming. I
grew up in an era where you had KG just
killing you on screens.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I would love to know that this man is about
to come in on my right side and kill me
so I can learn how to get around the screen.
So I think it's huge.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Did you get that communication back in the.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Day, No, that's I think that's how it became such
a good defender, Like avoiding screens because because yeah, I mean,
and you can move you know, kg, They were just
lett him do whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh yeah, he was known instead a moving screen all
the time.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Stick that hip out all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Name drove right there.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What do you guys think just what makes a great
perimeter defender?
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I think, like you said, just knowing what what the
game plan is going in, what we're trying to take away,
especially at this level, Like guys are so good, they're
gonna score, they're gonna get their numbers, But how can
we limit them having a crazy night?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
How can we keep them off the free throw line?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So just knowing, like what makes guys comfortable makes them successful,
and just try to limit them as much as you can.
And I think just on the ball, just understanding that.
But then off ball, just be in the right position,
just showing a crowd see your masters doesn't feel like
he's on an island out there, and just a bunch
(10:43):
of little things like that that, uh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Not feeling like you on the island is a great feeling. Yeah,
for sure, especially with guys how they play, like, especially
how they play today going one to one so much
knowing that you have like your boys is with you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
What do you guys teach the kids when it comes
to defense? I teach them slide your feet.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's sliding. I think it's being reactionary.
There are times where you know personnel, you know what
the guy's tendencies, but there are times where you're gonna
have to be able to react to the moves that
they make. And you can work on that, like doing
reactionary drills and trying to do certain drills like that,
(11:23):
or even playing one on one all the time and
playing against good offensive players. Again, you can, you can
work on anything. So being able to do that is
I think I think that helped me out a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
A lot of it is natural, but kids, you can
also develop their skills.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So make sure you put in the work, effort and effort.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This is hardro talking about getting screened and getting blindsided
by seven foot bodies.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I would say that's hard. And there's conversation. How
much conversation is there? Okay, there's steph, you're guarding Steph.
You know, Drew, there's cerfer different ways you're gonna put
You're gonna fight through a screen.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You're not going to get him room.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's an island you don't want to be on, right,
So how much discussion is there before games between the
two of you about certain individual players and their tendencies
and where the two of you are going to.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Have to be.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah, I think you have those discussions. And then I
also think you have them during the game. Sometimes there's
a obviously you have great players, and it's not like
there's just one thing that this great player can do,
So sometimes you have to just mid game. And that's
also where the communication comes in. I tell Derek, like,
if I do this and I send him this way,
you take him and I'll go to you know what
I mean. Being able to have that type of trust
(12:36):
and communication in game is also important.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
How often does that actually happen? Like, were you guys?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It's quite a bit.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, especially like like if someone's gotta going or something
was like, yeah, I've noticed he likes to shoot it
going left or something of that, or if we could
top lock him or something getting away from the screen.
So just kind of seeing how the game flow is,
and just kind of reading and reacting off of that
and just having that dialogue of what you see out
(13:05):
there and how we could just make things a little
bit more difficult.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The reason I asked that is because after games the
fan base, anytime the word adjustments comes up, it's always
associated with like Joe and the coaching staff, and they're like, oh,
they didn't make adjustments, or they did make adjustments, whatever.
But I guess what you guys are saying is that
on top of the coaches making certain adjustments, you guys
are also making adjustments on the court with each other,
(13:29):
like on the fly.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, I think, but I think Joe and our coaching
staff gives us like that freedom and that ability and
that trust to make those adjustments.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Which you've talked about since you got here. That's one
of your favorite parts about Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, you have some coaches who are pretty strict with
what they want to do defensively, but I think giving
us the trust because we are on the court and
we do we might see something differently or at a
different time. Being able to do that is super important.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So I love when you roll your eyes whenever Joe's
name comes up. That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There's an instant reaction now it has let there's so
almost so much comfort and trust now that you guys
are comfortable with the things that make Joe Joe, and
there's almost an open minded to it, like, oh, we're
gonna watch this thing that the Navy Seals talked about
doing whatever, Okay, because that's Joe and it's you know,
(14:23):
it's not just all in fun. There's he has such
a belief in you and such trust in you that
whatever he comes up with, it's like, all right, Joe,
we'll do austin you do you.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Pretty much?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He let Joe's us and we all got the same
goal of mind, and I mean, I think that's what's
just the fun part about it is everybody's unique. Everybody's
got their own different way of doing things, and at
the end of the day, like we're all together, we
all have the same mission and allows us do special things.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
His is definitely you his way of doing things. One
last question before we let you guys go. We've talked
about the stock exchange for the entire episode, but as
a team, like, what do you think made you guys
so great defensively last year? That got you over that
hump got you that eighteenth championship that you're trying to
trickle into this season as well. Uh, I would say,
(15:22):
and I'm talking defensive obviously, right, Like what did you guess?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Is just.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think it's just pride, like pride knowing that like individually,
I don't want to I don't want to get beat.
I want to guard my man and I want to
do the best I can, and knowing that, like sometimes
you might have games where like I mean, I've gotten
torch for forty points or whatever. But I think it's
just pride one on one being able to guard another
(15:48):
layer is pride as a as a unit, being able
to know like if I get beat, Derek has my back,
but he has to want to do that too. You
know what I'm saying. I got to do the best
I can, to do what I'm supposed to do if
like worst come the worst, I know that my man
has my back. I think that we really built this
(16:09):
connection and this trust that if any of that stuff happens, like,
it's okay, Like if it goes to fire, like if
things start catching fire, like we'll get we'll get the
fire out as a team, not just as one person.
So I think our trust, our communication for each other
was there.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Last year and that's what makes the Celtics defense great,
that's what makes the stock exchange great. You guys, I
appreciate you coming on and we are certain we're going
to get back to you guys with some handshake recommendations
because it has to happen. The Celtics fan base has
got to get us something. So thanks for coming on again,
good luck the rest of the season, and we'll be
feeding you those handshakes very soon.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Appreciate it, looking forward to it.
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