April 12, 2021 • 46 mins
On this episode of Vitamin D with Dawn Dai, Dawn talks with actress, Jasmine Burke, star of Bounce’s hit Black soap opera, Saints & Sinners. Dive in as they discuss her character Dr. Christie Johnson, what it means to “walk in your light,” the importance of knowing that “you are not your mistakes” and so much more!
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on this podcast, you know I use the lyrics of
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get you in a brighter and an elevated place so
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you can beat your best. SOO, so I'm excited to
talk to you about today's episode. I have a very
special young lady joining me. Her name is Jasmine Burke
and she's the star of Bounced TV hit series Saints
and centers and air Sunday nights on Bounced TV nine
eight Central, and the premiere just happened on April eleven, Phenomenon.
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But on this episode I talked to Jasmine about the
importance of living in authentic life and how it relates
to her character, Dr Christie, and also how it relates
to her and everyone else, because there's no better way
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to do you than to be true to you, UM,
knowing your limits, knowing what you stand for and on
dagn't gonna shot what you don't stand for. Also, we
talked about not allowing our past mistakes dictate our lives
because you find out you actually get lost in its
oars um. Also understanding that these past the situations are
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built in our way so that we can build upoint it,
you know. So I want you to dive in because
this is a very engaging conversation. We're going everywhere from
just regular life to God to Jesus, about meditation, her engagement,
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but more importantly about what it means just as to
be you. I mean, if there's any role that you'll
ever sign up for, make sure it's the one that's
described what your name on it. Okay, all right, So
enough of my talking. Let's dive in, let's get inspired.
It's not time for your dose a vitamin damin D
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right with me, I get excited about how are you?
I am wonderful, how are you? I'm doing amazing? Thank
you so much for having me on your show to
talk about Satan's Sinners. This is gonna be great. First,
let me tell you I'm digging your grain. You know,
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emeralds is a color too when it's just it just
exudes like some royalty and everything you're giving me. But
I'm doing day so I want to tell you a
little bit. This is my podcast, Vitamin D with doing
day So. This podcast is a multi vitamin for your mind,
your body, and soul. On here, it's all about getting
excited about your life. So and it's about shedding the light.
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So with anything to you, you're doing just getting the
positivity and we're shedding light on you today, right, Thank you.
I hope I can be a burst of vitamin and
energy and inspiration for somebody today. Absolutely, you know it
was just looking on. We're gonna be talking about the
season premiere just premiered last night of Saints and Centers,
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And I understand that you're in the project, First, tell
us about it, tell us who you are, tell us
about Saints and Centers and why this project is so amazing. Yes, well,
hi everybody. I'm Jasmine Burke and I played Dr. Christie
Johnson on Saints and Centers. This is our fifth season
and it has been an incredible ride. It is a
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dramatic show that is full of scandal and uh, just
beauty and black excellence, but then also, um, we go
into the intricacies of the dynamics of family relationships and
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just the different Um it's it's not a fantasy, but
the drama on the show, the drama. You might recall
us as h a black, black soap opera. That's right, Yeah,
you understand that space with it all. But um, we's
not fantasy, but it's giving you that that dose of
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your your soap opera drama mixed in with that black excellence. Yes,
and it's it's the world things. And I think it's
just like you know, that black excellence that we talked about.
It's just like the flavor. It's the flavor to the drama.
It couldn't just be the regular drama. We had to
add some flavor to it. Um, but I want to
say that I really enjoyed it. Um. I had a
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chance to check out the season premier you last night
and it's don't worry, this is not a spoiler alert.
I know many of the people, but what I think
is so interesting and um, you know, as we talk
about on a Vitamin D have just been inspirational. There's
this relationship that you have with your mother played by
Vanessa Bell callaway, Um, ms, Ella May and you're coming
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off of a still to you've lost your license. Now
we can say, yeah, you lost your list sense, your
medical license and um, now there's a scandal going on.
But I understand that you're kind of a tug of
war what the relationship with your mom. And what I
love about it is because there's something to be said
about a mother daughter relationship. And I'm sure you can
relate because you grew up with a single mother too. Right, Okay,
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let's talk to me yes, well with Lady Ella and
Dr Christie. That mother daughter relationship is I think every
mother daughter relationships, not every because some people have just
like an amazing story to tell about their mother daughter relationship. Um,
but there's has been strained because Lady Ella like you said,
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played by Vanessa Bell calloway Is has been disappointed in
her daughter Christie not living up to the expectation that
they had for her and the ideas that they had
for her who she was supposed to be. And with Christie,
she tried, She tried very hard for a long time.
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She she she tried to do what her family wanted
her to be. She tried to live up to that
perfect expectation, but she fell short because nobody is perfect, right,
nobody is perfect, and she has felt the pressure. You know,
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she didn't really get a chance to define where her
life would look like for her, like, Okay, no, this
is what your life is gonna be. Like you're going
to go to medical school, you're going to run the clinic,
you're going to be you're going to marry well, you
are going to look perfect at all times. And that
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was hard for Christie to live up to. Yeah. And
there's the thing too, it's so interesting that I think
it happens in a lot of elite fans. Means that
it's this area where you have to conform and to
be a certain thing. And it's like in life when
you talk about living your best life, You're just designed
to do you and to live your life for you.
And it's like when we get in those situations where
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we assign ourselves, which you say that these labels um
feeling like we have to meet the status quo, we
kind of like separate ourselves with that, and then we find,
just as you can see with your character, is that
this starts to be a little friction. Yes. Yes, because
because when someone else has planned for you may not
be what come on. The creator has plan and even
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your family, even your family, even your parents, have an
idea about who you're supposed to be. And if you're
not doing that exact thing, or it's taking you a
little longer, or you know, your path is just a
little different, you may meet that that ridicule criticism and
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then it starts to tear at you and then you
get lost in the sauce. And that's what has happened
for Christie. She has gotten lost in the sauce throughout
the seasons. And it's traumatic to be told by your
mother and your grandmother, who are these prestigious women in
the community, that you are a failure, you are a disappointment.
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You let us down, and you ain't never gonna be nothing.
Get out of here. That's traumatic. And you know what,
that's the thing, like I have life tattooed in my
mouth on my bottom left right because it's just like
I I really speak life and want people to know
how important it is that you have to speak things
over yourself. And when you're talking about your character, like, oh,
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you just think about how can you even flourish in
that type of environment? You can't, you can't. You you
will drown, You will drown. So what Christie ended up
doing through out the seasons is getting into trouble and
falling into traps and self sabotaging. That's self sabotaging, self sabotaging.
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And uh, there's this me there's this video that I love.
Everybody knows I love this video. They always said it
to me. It's a lady. I don't know her name,
but she she's saying the words wrong. But we we
we we know her heart and knows what she means.
She said they would try to satellize and sabosizes. Are
you yeah? So that's what has happened with Christie. But
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she now finally in season five, we we started to
see it in season four right, She's like, you know what,
forget this. No, I'm not who you thought I was
going to be. Yes, I fell into some pits and
some traps, and I went down and had some value moments.
But guess what, I'm not gonna let that define me.
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I'm not gonna let that define the rest of my
life and my experience. I'm gonna even if you don't
believe in me, you're my own mother. Even if you
don't believe in me, I'm gonna find it in myself
to believe in my own self. And you can look
at me with disappointment all you want, but what why
watched me come up out of these ashes? And she
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and she and she is she is? But this, like
when when you're just starting to get back on track
and get your wings a little slub, you know, So
here goes song is gonna be another obstacle coming around
the corner. But here's the thing, though, when you talk
about going to the next level and taking flight, it's
gonna take a little bit more wind, it's gonna take
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a little bit more of a push. But I think
what it is is it's like you gotta practice, I guess,
like your faith myself like if you got to this point, Yes,
it may be a little harder, but you know that
if you reach out, something is going to grab you.
You know that if you pull back, you're gonna have
something in your hand. But here's the thing I'm running
with you. What part of your aspects of your life
like growing up because you're from Atlanta, right, yes? What
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what would you say? You growing up? And how your
relationship with your mother has definitely helped, you know, influence
your character. Christie, Oh wow, my relationship with my mom
My mother, like I said, Um, she was a single,
single parent mother. She raised us in the projects because
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that's what she could afford to do. But she didn't
let that define her. She didn't let that define her.
She said, you know what, this is our circumstance right now.
But let me let me, let me pour into you guys.
Let let me give you some tools, let me let
me show you some things to show you this is
not this doesn't have to be your life. Take take
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from me, take from me the good, Take from me
the good, and I'm gonna pour into you my brother
and I to show you, guys, what is possible. She
did her darnedst She did. She She went above and
has been on multiple films. I think she's doing all right.
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I know, but you know what, even with me being
on TV, my mother isn't impressed with that. She's but
I'm saying the fact that you still flourished like one
can say like if it was come from impoperished circumstances.
And there's not so much to say that, oh because
you're on TV. That's the epitome of life. But it's
to say that something did sprout and grow from it. Yes, yes, yes,
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you know what it taught me. I saw her how
hard my mother worked, and I saw how she thought
outside of the box. And I saw how she didn't
let our immediate circumstances and surroundings tell her who she
was or what she was able to accomplish in the team,
my mother, uh went back to school, she got her
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g e d. She went to college, became a nurse.
She um didn't just stay keep us in the projects.
Because with the welfare system. Um, it's a system and
it's meant to trap you and keep you in it.
And people always talk bad about people who have to
rely on government assistance as if they don't want more
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in life. Or is if they're lazy people. And that's
not the case. When you're in the welfare system. You
don't know until you're in it. It's the way you're treated.
You're treated very inhumane. You're treated like you are a dog.
So that's gonna affect you, especially if you don't have
that muscle. Because by myself, like in transition to l A,
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you know, the grind just after whatever you're you're going after.
That was the point where I was some public assistance
and going there, even going there if I had to
make sure I got my my car, my benefit card
for the finances of just how they treat you. And
there's a difference because if you don't have the mindset
to keep pushing and keep pressing, people are going to
tell you know, and there's things that what you don't
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know that you don't know. Yeah, if you don't know,
you don't know. And but what my mother did do
was she said, Okay, what what are the resources available
to me if I'm gonna be in this situation? Okay,
what are the resources available to me? And my mom
she found out that, oh, there's a Section eight program.
Oh what is Section eight? Oh, it's your supposed it's
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is the system is a step, it's supposed to be
you're supposed to have it for a certain amount of
time to help you get on your feet. There's a
lot of resources in there to help you do that,
but it's so much time spent on treating you inhumane
and keeping you in that psychological rut that a lot
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of times people don't even uh get a chance to
poke their head out and see, oh what what else
is available? So we went to the Section eight program
and then from there they do have a program where
you can they will help you buy a house, where
they'll take you through all the training about being a
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first time home buyer. Even there's programs to help with
the um with the down payment, to get your interests
right lower, just to help you. And she did all
of that and then we got out of that. So
that's what I learned from my mother, that your circumstances,
immediate circumstances, don't define the rest of your life. And
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so you learn from those moments, take what you can, grab,
grab the anchors where you can, and pull yourself up
and get out of it. And and that's what I
took take from my mother, daughter relationship as it relates
to uh, my mother daughter relationship with Vanessa Belle Callaway
Lady Ella on Saints and Sinners. But Chrissie had to
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find that strength on her own and that's why I
took that from my life. Oh okay, So she has
to find her own anchor and and and she dr Christie,
she found the anchor. But like I said, just when
you're trying to get it together and like there's gonna
be another obstacle around the start with, it's gonna yeah.
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And it's like, you know, when you were just talking
about how with you how your mother, that mindset of
reminded me of this quote of this young man I
knew when I lived in New York. His name is
Raphael Gordon, but he is quote with me, your location
is not your destination. And I think it just couples
with the fact of even how your mother, and perhaps
even with Christie, her her vision that she desires of
what she sees for herself is greater and beyond than
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of course with her mother and her grandmother, who you know,
it's so interesting that both of these characters have Christie
in this position of having to have a look and
what people are gonna find out if you haven't already
watched it, is that later Ella just got another view
of who her mother is. What crazy z Isn't that something?
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It's like people want you to live up to these expectations,
but they're not living up to them themselves. They can't
see it. It's this imaginative area that one didn't even
put on self. But yet I'm supposed to assign myself
to or equip myself to a level up to. Isn't
that interesting? It's very interesting what I learned, like from
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psychology and just going to therapy, learning about myself, how
my mind works, why what my behaviors are, and why
is that a lot of times I've been guilty of
it myself, and I now that I'm more educated, I
can realize when other people are trying to do it
to me um projecting, when that's how they feel about themselves,
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so they push it onto you, and and it's a
tactic and so and so. For Christie, you know, I
would say, she's she's, she's a saint, she's she's she's
been sainting the last season four and now season five.
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But it's gonna be heartbreaking a lot of people got
a chance to see it in our Valentine's Day special
movie that came out um on Valentine's Day, which was
It's a bridge between season four and season five, which
is gonna air right before the you guys have seen it.
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It's it air right before you know the show came on.
But that that bridge is showing you the transition for
for Christie. But it's so unexpected. You know, you guys
are getting a chance to see what's about to happen.
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But I promise you you have no idea how far
it's about to go. Christie is about to go down
a rabbit hole, and you want to go down a
rabbit hole? Okay, if you're tuning in right now, we
are talking to uh Jasmineberg, star of Saints in Centers
on Bounce, you portrayed the role of Dr Christie Johnson, Uh,
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And we're just talking about the dynamics of the relationship.
And then is another thing that I was thinking about,
even with her her role in her character, what is
she going after? What does she want? Because it's like
you see in a situation she got. I want to
thing about it. What I love about it is that
I can see your relationship or Christie's relationship with Lady Alice.
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She loves her mother, Yeah, she loves her mother. Um,
you know, because you know, you can't choose your family.
But there is some friction and I'm just wondering what
does Christie want. Christie wants to please her family. She
wants she she well, she has wanted to let me
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let me rephrase that she has wanted to please her
family and that people please your syndrome not having um
an identity of your own and being told who you're
going to be, and when that pressure of that is
just too heavy, and like when you make the like
Christie when she made has made the mistakes. It hasn't
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been a soft place to land for her in her
family dynamic. It's not a okay because if she falls,
it's like falling on a bed of nails. What was
on glass burning by the fire? Danged if you do,
danged if you don't, exactly that has what it has
been for Christie, falling on a bed of nails. So
it's like, Okay, I can't run to my family, Okay,
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uh so I'm gonna run to these streets. And we
know what happens when you run to the streets. You
donna get tall up. Don't get dirty, You're gonna get
scuffed up. So if she's out here running to the streets,
not looking at yourself as Jasmine right, and then looking
at Christie, what advice would you give Christie? Mm hmm.
The advice I would give Christie is, baby girl, baby girl,
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baby girl, you are not your mistakes. Wow, you're not
yours steaks. I felt that in my legs. I felt
that one yes, mm hmm. Because it's that thing you
start to beat up on yourself. You start to feel
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you are your mistakes, that you and your mistakes are one.
Oh I did this terrible thing, that that was outside
of who I am? Oh, that must be who I am?
And how that that energy that you feel when you
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know you're stepping outside of your character, it doesn't feel right.
It feels kind of hicky, you know, it feels oh,
why did I do that? And and that heaviness of
that remains with you and you carry that around and
you feel that way about yourself and that starts to
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reflect in everything everything. Come on, I always tell me
how you do anything is how you'll do everything. On
this podcast, I'll tell people all the time. You are
your greatest ass act And it's just basically looking like this.
If you're talking about yourself on a life bank account perspective,
I don't care your cars, your clothes, you can have
your family, whatever it is. You are the most important
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because if you're out of balance, like you say, anything
an extension of that account, that's an investment that's pouring
on to any other relationship or any other aspect of
your life. Yes, yes, So it just really made me think, like, um,
when we talk about making sure we practice and walk
into a moment that's authentically us, it relieves us in
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a sense to just be you know, yeah, absolutely absolutely
that that relief, Like how do how do you get
that relief? I think it's one thing you just said,
it's behind you. Now let's think about this. It's so easy,
like you said, okay, girl, you are not your mistakes.
How is it? Like you know? It's for example, say,
if you're gonna walk to the street corner right, the
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sign is right there, so you know where you're going.
So if your mistakes are behind you, why are we
looking that way? It's point blank period. But if you
get to a point when you keep whipping back, you
know I do uh these lyrics of popular music. It
reminds me of Erica Badom. It's nothing but the same
as bad Lady. It's gonna slow you down. And then
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like you said, oh my neck hurt, my back hurt,
my legs hurt. I got corns and bringings on my
feet now or author Whitest is kicking it because you've
decided to luck that with you and all you gotta
do is pack light. Yeah. I mean, if you look
at this from a religious perspective, they say, you know,
cash your burdens and wordies on the Lord, just get
it outside of you because you have no business with it.
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So when you say, why are we looking back hacked
because we're consistently trying to figure out what was rather
than what is, because that's all we got right now.
And it's it's so interesting how we're so focused on
what the future can bring that we miss on the
gift to just being present right now, right now. And
if we're talking about having a gift and receiving, just
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like you said, us keep looking at the past, us,
keep holding onto these other mistakes. Guess what we're locked in?
Locked in the sense of nothing can come in my
life because I'm holding on what was. Well, how about
we talk about what will be? And then if I
go left with it. I think that's why I haven't
read it yet, But just understanding the title of Michelle
Obama's book, Becoming, it's always a process, It's always a journey,
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and I just love this journey that you're you're exploring
with the audience. Is saying where Christie is gonna go to?
I mean, she was at a situation of living up
to the expectations, got lost, everything got stripped, and now
you have to build back up, building back up. Yes,
Oh my gosh, that's exactly it, the saying ain't nothing
but a center who fell down and got up. What
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you're saying, that's it, That's it, That's it right there.
You just you just in cap related Christie's experience. Then
let me pull it here. You said you talked about
all of her mistakes, right, tell me something that you
admire about her. I admire that Christie still. You know
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how when you like, if your your spirit is good
right on, no matter what you do, when you trip up,
you fall, it's something in you that's going to still
be connected to that goodness in you. And that's what
I admire about Christie, Like her spirit is good and
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she well, how am I trying to say this? So
when she gets into these situations, right, So like in
season three she got um caught up in this uh
stealing baby scandal, right, stealing baby scandal. But at the
end of the season, she she did the right thing
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and she returned the baby. So it's like that thing
where no matter how far down the path you go,
you can always turn it right back. Even a sound
is a full circle. They want you to follow the light.
That's what I admire about Christie that she's always able
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to remember who she is. Eventually she will say, you
know what, No, that's not me. Let okay, let me
get back on track. And I just admired that so
much about her. Yeah, why do you think it's so
important to know who you are? Because there's so many
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distraction is trying to tell you who you're not. And
you know, I'm gonna get just spiritual, okay. So the enemy,
that's where the enemy's goal is to steal, kill and
destroy by any means necessary. And the enemy uses people
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and that's the thing the enemy works through people, just
like God works through people. Like I never look at
human beings and give them the power of God. I
can see what God is doing through them. But I
never look at somebody and say, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, that person, Oh my gosh, what that person
just to see me? Okay, I just need that from
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that person. It's like no, no no, no, I pray, I say, God,
use show me who you're gonna use. Yeah, And that
that's really what it is. So the enemy can does
the same thing. He works through people. So I when
when people are behaving badly, I try I don't put
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it on the person. I say, oh, okay, you're being
used right now. Okay, okay, you're trying to test me. Okay,
you're trying to see how farmago. Oh okay, you're gonna
see if I'm you want to see if I'm a
customer out. Okay, you want to You know what I'm saying,
You're being used as an instrument right now to to
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uh teach me something. And I wasn't always you know,
thinking like on this high, I was listen you better.
I was about to ask you when did you find
out who you were? You know, I was I've been
searching for who I was for a long time, right,
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and so here's the problem. I was searching for who
I was. I am who I am? Where's the GPS?
Where is the GPS show you where you are? So wait,
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when did that click? He read some people, Oh I
read something? When did the click? It belongs out? It
was very recent. It wasn't like, oh my god, like
it was very recent. I was reading. I've always read
the Bible, but I would just read it like like
a verse here, verse there or whatever like that. But
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I said to myself, like a few years ago, like
I just wanted to read the Bible front to back,
not for like, oh I'm trying to like get deeper
into my spirit. No, I just was like I just
wanted to read it like a book. What like, what
is it? Let me just I don't know how many
so what you were able to read it like a
book front about? I haven't finished yet, but now and
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I said, this was a few years ago, So I'm
I'm a slow reader. Andy, I got so many books
on my sholf. I haven't finished, but it's been a process.
But one something I read took my socks off. It
was so simple, and I can't remember the exact verse,
but it said, um, the human spirit is God's lamp. Oh,
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catch it, catch it, go ahead, I'm listening God's lamp.
And then I read something else that say you are
God's lights. Now this wasn't a different verse. You are
God's light. I said, Oh my gosh, that's who I am.
It's so simple, it's not confusing. All this time I
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thought it was so confusing. I thought it was like
this deep, like like where is it? And come to
find out, just shine, m m. That's what this Vitamin
Deep podcast is. All that. You see what I'm saying,
it's just all about being a reflection. And then I
have this quote always say, what allows a diamond to
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shine are the multitudes of cuts that have been placed
within it. If you think about it, the value just congratulations,
are you married yet? I know you're recently engaged. I'm
engaged the wedding planning. Yes, But just like your diamond
that you have, and just like us being diamonds, we
have different cuts, whether it is you know, being in
(32:16):
a single family household and just because there are some
things that you're not gonna you know, receive, not because
somebody's lacking, it's not there, obesity, depression, whatever it comes.
But just like you said, being that lamp and then
walking in your light, what happens when the light hit
the cut on the diamond and when you're not at
the point where you're trying to hide or be something
(32:36):
that you're not, you're so you that it's crystal clear.
What m hm m hm. You can't help, but shund
you know what I'm saying. But here's the thing. It's
interesting that you were just talking about the Bible and
talking about reading. What are you Christian? I am? I
identify as Christian, But love, love, let me be st
don't don't forget your thoughts because I know I don't
(32:57):
know what you're about to say. Bad. No, it's gonna
teach me something and I want to hear it. But
let me let me. I just want to define this.
I do because I do believe in Jesus Um. I
have my own ideas about that. Another another thing that
I read in the Bible. One thing I grew up
around a lot of different religions. I have one grandmother
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that's Jehovah's witness. I have one grandmother that's Pentecostal Baptist.
I have an uncle that's Nation Islam. My best friend
was Catholic. She's she was Puerto Rican and Catholic. So
and I would go um to all of the different
services with all of these different people in my life,
and all of these people are beautiful, loving people, but
(33:38):
they believe something different. But what I learned is that
it doesn't matter what you want to call it, you know,
but you just know there's something greater than us, and
there is UM. I don't call college college which you
want to call it. Believe how you want to believe it.
But if it's leading you to be the best virtual,
(34:00):
then just go for it. And nobody's wrong and nobody's wrong.
And so for me, I I do believe that Jesus
UM was a great man, a prophet. I believe that.
You know, when you read about him in the Bible,
it's such a short um. The peace about him is
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not even as long as people think it is um
and and his life was short, but it was a
prolific life. Come on the things that I love about Jesus.
I don't try to make Jesus like I. Don't be
like Jesus. If you don't believe in Jesus. Somebody's wrong
with you. Like no, like okay, believe what you want
(34:44):
to believe. But the thing of the things that I
love about Jesus and admire is his confidence. I love
how what he did believe, he believed like he you
could not shake him a rock. I'm gonna tell him
who he was, what your fact? Hold up? He came
out period, he said, I am period, I'm the great
(35:07):
I him, yes, and and I The other thing I
love how he walked in any room in front of
the Pharaoh, in front of the governor, he don't you're
just a man who like, okay, Hi, I'm Jesus. Nice
to meet you. Oh you say you you you're the
You're the Messiah. That's who you saying? I am? What's up?
(35:30):
You know? I just love his that confidence about him,
that he couldn't be rocked, and those I take the
qualities from it. I don't, you know, get caught up
in you know, all this other stuff that people get
caught up in. So but no, no, go at your point,
what were you saying, You're I don't know exactly where
I was going, but it's basically echoing the same thing
(35:51):
of what you were saying of just uh, like you
were talking about reading it. I haven't read the Bible. Um,
I probably read you know, different things and different scriptures. Uh.
I don't subscribe to Christianity, but I know who my
God is. But what I can say, you will often
hear me, you know, quote various things from the Bible,
because we can't negate the fact that we are spiritual
beings having a human experience. And with that in plant mind,
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it's just the same thing of saying, hey, whether there's
light and darker yet and a yang, there's an understanding
the communication. And so this spiritself needs to understand how
to work around in this physical self. And so you
can't tell me that somebody that is located in Africa
may know what an igloo looks like back way back
(36:34):
in the day, or to know that it was existing,
or to know that my skin or that color needs
to be that way just because of proximity. But it's
everything that you said, is that it's just a way
so to communicate, so that you can understand. And if
we get out of the way of trying to hold
people in the box. I I eat Lady Ella to
Christie Um, we understand that it's just so much bigger.
(36:56):
And it's just like kind of like how they say,
like a goldfish, you have goldfishers around younger and you know,
you go to an amusement part, you throw a little ball.
You really just throw a little ball over there at
the stay fair, and um, it will go into the
fish tank you want to fish. And oftentimes they'd say,
like with goldfish, they'll only grow the size of the
tank that they're in. And I feel like for some
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people who may not conceive, you know, above and beyond
your faith, your bubble becomes right there. And like from
my evolution happened in the world religious class when I
was learning about Buddhism, Judaism, like ship Touism, like everything.
I probably made that last one up, But like you said,
it's the same principality. And even if we look at
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just like with all the dynamics of every character, you know,
whether they're you know, trying to hold up, you know,
you just see so many different dynamics. You can't negate
the fact that everybody is human and we're just trying
to survive. That's it. That's it. Like, and the dynamic
with saints and centers being that this family is the
(37:59):
head of the church, like they this is their church
that they owned. It's been passed down from generation to generation.
And that people in the in the just because you
go to church or you're like a leader of a church,
you're not like you're not perfect, like you're not you're
(38:22):
you're human being, You're just And that's the thing with
this Johnson family. The church Lady Bird played by the
incredible Dobbisco. Everybody loves. It's either you love like you
love to hate Lady Bird, like she's so amazing, like
(38:43):
everything about her. She's the perfect villain I think she
is the most incredible villain ever. She needs to go
out there in history. You know of great villains, television villains.
But she even with her she has her own story.
She wanted a better life for herself, and she married
(39:03):
this guy and they started this church. And she said,
you know what, I'm gonna create who I am. I'm
gonna I'm gonna create myself. No, I'm going to become
this prestigious lady in the community. I'm gonna run this town.
Nobody's ever gonna take anything from me again. When you
(39:27):
when you pull back the layer of every character on
Saints and Center. There is a purpose that is greater
or deeper than just the mistakes. And you're gonna get
people later on in the season. You're gonna see that
in in in Lady Bird and in all the different characters.
(39:50):
I can't oh my god, I can't wait for people
to see what's gonna happen with this? It is what's
your wait? What do you okay? You can't tell us anything,
but what can you give us something? Something we may feel? Uh?
What can I nibble on something? I want to tell
(40:11):
you so bad I want it. Blew my mind. When
we were in the table read, you know, we were
reading the whole season, I said, what she did? That's
a and heat. But then now, oh my, Nigel Campbell
shout out to Nigel Campbell, our showrunner, the writer. He
(40:35):
he's so amazing, He's Nigel. His mind is gonna acid
because it's some crazy stuff going. I mean, each moment
it's like but in a good way. And I think
even leaving off the season from I was like, yeah,
I like, how you didn't how could how do you?
(40:58):
How do you not know? Like and then that show
that you okay, all right, so you can't tell us that. Um,
I want to thank you. We've been on here chatting.
Is there anything else we should look out for you? Yes,
I'm starring in a movie. It's it'll be in theaters
this summer. I'm so excited myself, Taran Manny, Corey Hardrick. Uh.
(41:23):
The movie is called Karen. Karen Okay. It's so though,
written and directed by Called Daniels. I mean, come on,
it's I don't even have to tell you anything else.
It's called Karen. Yes. So some things will be coming
out more and more in the next coming months, and
(41:44):
we can, you know, get back on another call and
talk about that that's coming up. And you know, more
music is coming for me. I mean so excited about
my music that's coming. Where can we find it? It's
on me everywhere you can buy music I'm on and
we'll send it to you because that sounds good. Get
(42:04):
it in your rotation, all right? And now how can
people follow you on social media? It's at th h
e Jasmine Burke on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter at th e
Jasmine Berk. Hello. And now one thing I asked for
every person to do as I told you. Vitamin D
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is a multi vitamin for your mind, body and soul.
So I love for my guests to leave just a
dose of inspiration, just shutting some light on something, a quote,
a lesson that you learned, or just something that's positive.
M I like that. So I'm Jasmine Burke and my
dose of vitamin D is In the Bible, it says
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that these words are for your interpretation. I think people
miss that all the time. It is not meant you
can listen to whoever you want to listen to to
hear the stories and the words, But it really is
meant for you to read it and to take from it.
What you take from it, and what you take from
(43:06):
it is the right thing. There is no wrong thing
to take from it. It's meant for your interpretation, for
you to have a personal experience with the creator. So
go and get your personal experience and don't let anybody
steer you from it. You can never be wrong about
what you feel. For you bars drop it. That's beautiful.
(43:30):
Oh my gosh, that was amazing. I don't know if
I even I don't think I've seen that. It's not
like I would because I don't read it all the time.
But that was so great, You're amazing. Thank you for
joining us. I mean, if you haven't already, make sure
you check out Saints and Centers on Bounce TV, premiered
(43:51):
last night, April eleven. And is there anything else I missed? Oh? Yes,
one other thing. This is a treat you're hearing it first. Actually,
so every Sunday before the episode comes on, you are
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(44:15):
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(44:37):
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and everything that Jasmine has said that you're not allowing
yourself to get lost in the sauce because you spend
time with yourself. You checked in with yourself. You've done
the word to know so and you understand that your
past is behind you and that's not where you're going way.
So if you're not going that way, why are you
looking that way? You gotta ask yourself what do you
want in life? Who do you want to be? And
(45:40):
and really tap into the fact of understanding whether or
not you have the vision? Do you say the greater
the vision, the greater the reward. What do you want
to receive? Huh? What do you see for yourself? That's
all I want you to answer. And heck, you get
a lot of that in this conversation with you ASTHM
and I'm so great before and I just hope that
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Thank you for investing in my dreams and letting me
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(00:44):
on this podcast, you know I use the lyrics of
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every day people like you and me, um just have
an inspiration, no insights, and making sure these conversations help
get you in a brighter and an elevated place so
(01:06):
you can beat your best. SOO, so I'm excited to
talk to you about today's episode. I have a very
special young lady joining me. Her name is Jasmine Burke
and she's the star of Bounced TV hit series Saints
and centers and air Sunday nights on Bounced TV nine
eight Central, and the premiere just happened on April eleven, Phenomenon.
(01:30):
But on this episode I talked to Jasmine about the
importance of living in authentic life and how it relates
to her character, Dr Christie, and also how it relates
to her and everyone else, because there's no better way
(01:51):
to do you than to be true to you, UM,
knowing your limits, knowing what you stand for and on
dagn't gonna shot what you don't stand for. Also, we
talked about not allowing our past mistakes dictate our lives
because you find out you actually get lost in its
oars um. Also understanding that these past the situations are
(02:18):
built in our way so that we can build upoint it,
you know. So I want you to dive in because
this is a very engaging conversation. We're going everywhere from
just regular life to God to Jesus, about meditation, her engagement,
(02:40):
but more importantly about what it means just as to
be you. I mean, if there's any role that you'll
ever sign up for, make sure it's the one that's
described what your name on it. Okay, all right, So
enough of my talking. Let's dive in, let's get inspired.
It's not time for your dose a vitamin damin D
(03:03):
right with me, I get excited about how are you?
I am wonderful, how are you? I'm doing amazing? Thank
you so much for having me on your show to
talk about Satan's Sinners. This is gonna be great. First,
let me tell you I'm digging your grain. You know,
(03:25):
emeralds is a color too when it's just it just
exudes like some royalty and everything you're giving me. But
I'm doing day so I want to tell you a
little bit. This is my podcast, Vitamin D with doing
day So. This podcast is a multi vitamin for your mind,
your body, and soul. On here, it's all about getting
excited about your life. So and it's about shedding the light.
(03:45):
So with anything to you, you're doing just getting the
positivity and we're shedding light on you today, right, Thank you.
I hope I can be a burst of vitamin and
energy and inspiration for somebody today. Absolutely, you know it
was just looking on. We're gonna be talking about the
season premiere just premiered last night of Saints and Centers,
(04:06):
And I understand that you're in the project, First, tell
us about it, tell us who you are, tell us
about Saints and Centers and why this project is so amazing. Yes, well,
hi everybody. I'm Jasmine Burke and I played Dr. Christie
Johnson on Saints and Centers. This is our fifth season
and it has been an incredible ride. It is a
(04:29):
dramatic show that is full of scandal and uh, just
beauty and black excellence, but then also, um, we go
into the intricacies of the dynamics of family relationships and
(04:50):
just the different Um it's it's not a fantasy, but
the drama on the show, the drama. You might recall
us as h a black, black soap opera. That's right, Yeah,
you understand that space with it all. But um, we's
not fantasy, but it's giving you that that dose of
(05:13):
your your soap opera drama mixed in with that black excellence. Yes,
and it's it's the world things. And I think it's
just like you know, that black excellence that we talked about.
It's just like the flavor. It's the flavor to the drama.
It couldn't just be the regular drama. We had to
add some flavor to it. Um, but I want to
say that I really enjoyed it. Um. I had a
(05:33):
chance to check out the season premier you last night
and it's don't worry, this is not a spoiler alert.
I know many of the people, but what I think
is so interesting and um, you know, as we talk
about on a Vitamin D have just been inspirational. There's
this relationship that you have with your mother played by
Vanessa Bell callaway, Um, ms, Ella May and you're coming
(05:59):
off of a still to you've lost your license. Now
we can say, yeah, you lost your list sense, your
medical license and um, now there's a scandal going on.
But I understand that you're kind of a tug of
war what the relationship with your mom. And what I
love about it is because there's something to be said
about a mother daughter relationship. And I'm sure you can
relate because you grew up with a single mother too. Right, Okay,
(06:21):
let's talk to me yes, well with Lady Ella and
Dr Christie. That mother daughter relationship is I think every
mother daughter relationships, not every because some people have just
like an amazing story to tell about their mother daughter relationship. Um,
but there's has been strained because Lady Ella like you said,
(06:45):
played by Vanessa Bell calloway Is has been disappointed in
her daughter Christie not living up to the expectation that
they had for her and the ideas that they had
for her who she was supposed to be. And with Christie,
she tried, She tried very hard for a long time.
(07:08):
She she she tried to do what her family wanted
her to be. She tried to live up to that
perfect expectation, but she fell short because nobody is perfect, right,
nobody is perfect, and she has felt the pressure. You know,
(07:29):
she didn't really get a chance to define where her
life would look like for her, like, Okay, no, this
is what your life is gonna be. Like you're going
to go to medical school, you're going to run the clinic,
you're going to be you're going to marry well, you
are going to look perfect at all times. And that
(07:52):
was hard for Christie to live up to. Yeah. And
there's the thing too, it's so interesting that I think
it happens in a lot of elite fans. Means that
it's this area where you have to conform and to
be a certain thing. And it's like in life when
you talk about living your best life, You're just designed
to do you and to live your life for you.
And it's like when we get in those situations where
(08:14):
we assign ourselves, which you say that these labels um
feeling like we have to meet the status quo, we
kind of like separate ourselves with that, and then we find,
just as you can see with your character, is that
this starts to be a little friction. Yes. Yes, because
because when someone else has planned for you may not
be what come on. The creator has plan and even
(08:38):
your family, even your family, even your parents, have an
idea about who you're supposed to be. And if you're
not doing that exact thing, or it's taking you a
little longer, or you know, your path is just a
little different, you may meet that that ridicule criticism and
(09:01):
then it starts to tear at you and then you
get lost in the sauce. And that's what has happened
for Christie. She has gotten lost in the sauce throughout
the seasons. And it's traumatic to be told by your
mother and your grandmother, who are these prestigious women in
the community, that you are a failure, you are a disappointment.
(09:25):
You let us down, and you ain't never gonna be nothing.
Get out of here. That's traumatic. And you know what,
that's the thing, like I have life tattooed in my
mouth on my bottom left right because it's just like
I I really speak life and want people to know
how important it is that you have to speak things
over yourself. And when you're talking about your character, like, oh,
(09:49):
you just think about how can you even flourish in
that type of environment? You can't, you can't. You you
will drown, You will drown. So what Christie ended up
doing through out the seasons is getting into trouble and
falling into traps and self sabotaging. That's self sabotaging, self sabotaging.
(10:13):
And uh, there's this me there's this video that I love.
Everybody knows I love this video. They always said it
to me. It's a lady. I don't know her name,
but she she's saying the words wrong. But we we
we we know her heart and knows what she means.
She said they would try to satellize and sabosizes. Are
you yeah? So that's what has happened with Christie. But
(10:37):
she now finally in season five, we we started to
see it in season four right, She's like, you know what,
forget this. No, I'm not who you thought I was
going to be. Yes, I fell into some pits and
some traps, and I went down and had some value moments.
But guess what, I'm not gonna let that define me.
(10:57):
I'm not gonna let that define the rest of my
life and my experience. I'm gonna even if you don't
believe in me, you're my own mother. Even if you
don't believe in me, I'm gonna find it in myself
to believe in my own self. And you can look
at me with disappointment all you want, but what why
watched me come up out of these ashes? And she
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and she and she is she is? But this, like
when when you're just starting to get back on track
and get your wings a little slub, you know, So
here goes song is gonna be another obstacle coming around
the corner. But here's the thing, though, when you talk
about going to the next level and taking flight, it's
gonna take a little bit more wind, it's gonna take
(11:43):
a little bit more of a push. But I think
what it is is it's like you gotta practice, I guess,
like your faith myself like if you got to this point, Yes,
it may be a little harder, but you know that
if you reach out, something is going to grab you.
You know that if you pull back, you're gonna have
something in your hand. But here's the thing I'm running
with you. What part of your aspects of your life
like growing up because you're from Atlanta, right, yes? What
(12:05):
what would you say? You growing up? And how your
relationship with your mother has definitely helped, you know, influence
your character. Christie, Oh wow, my relationship with my mom
My mother, like I said, Um, she was a single,
single parent mother. She raised us in the projects because
(12:26):
that's what she could afford to do. But she didn't
let that define her. She didn't let that define her.
She said, you know what, this is our circumstance right now.
But let me let me, let me pour into you guys.
Let let me give you some tools, let me let
me show you some things to show you this is
not this doesn't have to be your life. Take take
(12:51):
from me, take from me the good, Take from me
the good, and I'm gonna pour into you my brother
and I to show you, guys, what is possible. She
did her darnedst She did. She She went above and
has been on multiple films. I think she's doing all right.
(13:11):
I know, but you know what, even with me being
on TV, my mother isn't impressed with that. She's but
I'm saying the fact that you still flourished like one
can say like if it was come from impoperished circumstances.
And there's not so much to say that, oh because
you're on TV. That's the epitome of life. But it's
to say that something did sprout and grow from it. Yes, yes, yes,
(13:31):
you know what it taught me. I saw her how
hard my mother worked, and I saw how she thought
outside of the box. And I saw how she didn't
let our immediate circumstances and surroundings tell her who she
was or what she was able to accomplish in the team,
my mother, uh went back to school, she got her
(13:53):
g e d. She went to college, became a nurse.
She um didn't just stay keep us in the projects.
Because with the welfare system. Um, it's a system and
it's meant to trap you and keep you in it.
And people always talk bad about people who have to
rely on government assistance as if they don't want more
(14:14):
in life. Or is if they're lazy people. And that's
not the case. When you're in the welfare system. You
don't know until you're in it. It's the way you're treated.
You're treated very inhumane. You're treated like you are a dog.
So that's gonna affect you, especially if you don't have
that muscle. Because by myself, like in transition to l A,
(14:36):
you know, the grind just after whatever you're you're going after.
That was the point where I was some public assistance
and going there, even going there if I had to
make sure I got my my car, my benefit card
for the finances of just how they treat you. And
there's a difference because if you don't have the mindset
to keep pushing and keep pressing, people are going to
tell you know, and there's things that what you don't
(14:58):
know that you don't know. Yeah, if you don't know,
you don't know. And but what my mother did do
was she said, Okay, what what are the resources available
to me if I'm gonna be in this situation? Okay,
what are the resources available to me? And my mom
she found out that, oh, there's a Section eight program.
Oh what is Section eight? Oh, it's your supposed it's
(15:19):
is the system is a step, it's supposed to be
you're supposed to have it for a certain amount of
time to help you get on your feet. There's a
lot of resources in there to help you do that,
but it's so much time spent on treating you inhumane
and keeping you in that psychological rut that a lot
(15:40):
of times people don't even uh get a chance to
poke their head out and see, oh what what else
is available? So we went to the Section eight program
and then from there they do have a program where
you can they will help you buy a house, where
they'll take you through all the training about being a
(16:01):
first time home buyer. Even there's programs to help with
the um with the down payment, to get your interests
right lower, just to help you. And she did all
of that and then we got out of that. So
that's what I learned from my mother, that your circumstances,
immediate circumstances, don't define the rest of your life. And
(16:22):
so you learn from those moments, take what you can, grab,
grab the anchors where you can, and pull yourself up
and get out of it. And and that's what I
took take from my mother, daughter relationship as it relates
to uh, my mother daughter relationship with Vanessa Belle Callaway
Lady Ella on Saints and Sinners. But Chrissie had to
(16:43):
find that strength on her own and that's why I
took that from my life. Oh okay, So she has
to find her own anchor and and and she dr Christie,
she found the anchor. But like I said, just when
you're trying to get it together and like there's gonna
be another obstacle around the start with, it's gonna yeah.
(17:08):
And it's like, you know, when you were just talking
about how with you how your mother, that mindset of
reminded me of this quote of this young man I
knew when I lived in New York. His name is
Raphael Gordon, but he is quote with me, your location
is not your destination. And I think it just couples
with the fact of even how your mother, and perhaps
even with Christie, her her vision that she desires of
what she sees for herself is greater and beyond than
(17:30):
of course with her mother and her grandmother, who you know,
it's so interesting that both of these characters have Christie
in this position of having to have a look and
what people are gonna find out if you haven't already
watched it, is that later Ella just got another view
of who her mother is. What crazy z Isn't that something?
(17:52):
It's like people want you to live up to these expectations,
but they're not living up to them themselves. They can't
see it. It's this imaginative area that one didn't even
put on self. But yet I'm supposed to assign myself
to or equip myself to a level up to. Isn't
that interesting? It's very interesting what I learned, like from
(18:13):
psychology and just going to therapy, learning about myself, how
my mind works, why what my behaviors are, and why
is that a lot of times I've been guilty of
it myself, and I now that I'm more educated, I
can realize when other people are trying to do it
to me um projecting, when that's how they feel about themselves,
(18:34):
so they push it onto you, and and it's a
tactic and so and so. For Christie, you know, I
would say, she's she's, she's a saint, she's she's she's
been sainting the last season four and now season five.
(18:54):
But it's gonna be heartbreaking a lot of people got
a chance to see it in our Valentine's Day special
movie that came out um on Valentine's Day, which was
It's a bridge between season four and season five, which
is gonna air right before the you guys have seen it.
(19:15):
It's it air right before you know the show came on.
But that that bridge is showing you the transition for
for Christie. But it's so unexpected. You know, you guys
are getting a chance to see what's about to happen.
(19:36):
But I promise you you have no idea how far
it's about to go. Christie is about to go down
a rabbit hole, and you want to go down a
rabbit hole? Okay, if you're tuning in right now, we
are talking to uh Jasmineberg, star of Saints in Centers
on Bounce, you portrayed the role of Dr Christie Johnson, Uh,
(19:56):
And we're just talking about the dynamics of the relationship.
And then is another thing that I was thinking about,
even with her her role in her character, what is
she going after? What does she want? Because it's like
you see in a situation she got. I want to
thing about it. What I love about it is that
I can see your relationship or Christie's relationship with Lady Alice.
(20:16):
She loves her mother, Yeah, she loves her mother. Um,
you know, because you know, you can't choose your family.
But there is some friction and I'm just wondering what
does Christie want. Christie wants to please her family. She
wants she she well, she has wanted to let me
(20:38):
let me rephrase that she has wanted to please her
family and that people please your syndrome not having um
an identity of your own and being told who you're
going to be, and when that pressure of that is
just too heavy, and like when you make the like
Christie when she made has made the mistakes. It hasn't
(21:02):
been a soft place to land for her in her
family dynamic. It's not a okay because if she falls,
it's like falling on a bed of nails. What was
on glass burning by the fire? Danged if you do,
danged if you don't, exactly that has what it has
been for Christie, falling on a bed of nails. So
it's like, Okay, I can't run to my family, Okay,
(21:26):
uh so I'm gonna run to these streets. And we
know what happens when you run to the streets. You
donna get tall up. Don't get dirty, You're gonna get
scuffed up. So if she's out here running to the streets,
not looking at yourself as Jasmine right, and then looking
at Christie, what advice would you give Christie? Mm hmm.
The advice I would give Christie is, baby girl, baby girl,
(21:49):
baby girl, you are not your mistakes. Wow, you're not
yours steaks. I felt that in my legs. I felt
that one yes, mm hmm. Because it's that thing you
start to beat up on yourself. You start to feel
(22:12):
you are your mistakes, that you and your mistakes are one.
Oh I did this terrible thing, that that was outside
of who I am? Oh, that must be who I am?
And how that that energy that you feel when you
(22:33):
know you're stepping outside of your character, it doesn't feel right.
It feels kind of hicky, you know, it feels oh,
why did I do that? And and that heaviness of
that remains with you and you carry that around and
you feel that way about yourself and that starts to
(22:53):
reflect in everything everything. Come on, I always tell me
how you do anything is how you'll do everything. On
this podcast, I'll tell people all the time. You are
your greatest ass act And it's just basically looking like this.
If you're talking about yourself on a life bank account perspective,
I don't care your cars, your clothes, you can have
your family, whatever it is. You are the most important
(23:16):
because if you're out of balance, like you say, anything
an extension of that account, that's an investment that's pouring
on to any other relationship or any other aspect of
your life. Yes, yes, So it just really made me think, like, um,
when we talk about making sure we practice and walk
into a moment that's authentically us, it relieves us in
(23:38):
a sense to just be you know, yeah, absolutely absolutely
that that relief, Like how do how do you get
that relief? I think it's one thing you just said,
it's behind you. Now let's think about this. It's so easy,
like you said, okay, girl, you are not your mistakes.
How is it? Like you know? It's for example, say,
if you're gonna walk to the street corner right, the
(24:00):
sign is right there, so you know where you're going.
So if your mistakes are behind you, why are we
looking that way? It's point blank period. But if you
get to a point when you keep whipping back, you
know I do uh these lyrics of popular music. It
reminds me of Erica Badom. It's nothing but the same
as bad Lady. It's gonna slow you down. And then
(24:21):
like you said, oh my neck hurt, my back hurt,
my legs hurt. I got corns and bringings on my
feet now or author Whitest is kicking it because you've
decided to luck that with you and all you gotta
do is pack light. Yeah. I mean, if you look
at this from a religious perspective, they say, you know,
cash your burdens and wordies on the Lord, just get
it outside of you because you have no business with it.
(24:44):
So when you say, why are we looking back hacked
because we're consistently trying to figure out what was rather
than what is, because that's all we got right now.
And it's it's so interesting how we're so focused on
what the future can bring that we miss on the
gift to just being present right now, right now. And
if we're talking about having a gift and receiving, just
(25:06):
like you said, us keep looking at the past, us,
keep holding onto these other mistakes. Guess what we're locked in?
Locked in the sense of nothing can come in my
life because I'm holding on what was. Well, how about
we talk about what will be? And then if I
go left with it. I think that's why I haven't
read it yet, But just understanding the title of Michelle
Obama's book, Becoming, it's always a process, It's always a journey,
(25:31):
and I just love this journey that you're you're exploring
with the audience. Is saying where Christie is gonna go to?
I mean, she was at a situation of living up
to the expectations, got lost, everything got stripped, and now
you have to build back up, building back up. Yes,
Oh my gosh, that's exactly it, the saying ain't nothing
but a center who fell down and got up. What
(25:54):
you're saying, that's it, That's it, That's it right there.
You just you just in cap related Christie's experience. Then
let me pull it here. You said you talked about
all of her mistakes, right, tell me something that you
admire about her. I admire that Christie still. You know
(26:15):
how when you like, if your your spirit is good
right on, no matter what you do, when you trip up,
you fall, it's something in you that's going to still
be connected to that goodness in you. And that's what
I admire about Christie, Like her spirit is good and
(26:39):
she well, how am I trying to say this? So
when she gets into these situations, right, So like in
season three she got um caught up in this uh
stealing baby scandal, right, stealing baby scandal. But at the
end of the season, she she did the right thing
(27:00):
and she returned the baby. So it's like that thing
where no matter how far down the path you go,
you can always turn it right back. Even a sound
is a full circle. They want you to follow the light.
That's what I admire about Christie that she's always able
(27:24):
to remember who she is. Eventually she will say, you
know what, No, that's not me. Let okay, let me
get back on track. And I just admired that so
much about her. Yeah, why do you think it's so
important to know who you are? Because there's so many
(27:50):
distraction is trying to tell you who you're not. And
you know, I'm gonna get just spiritual, okay. So the enemy,
that's where the enemy's goal is to steal, kill and
destroy by any means necessary. And the enemy uses people
(28:12):
and that's the thing the enemy works through people, just
like God works through people. Like I never look at
human beings and give them the power of God. I
can see what God is doing through them. But I
never look at somebody and say, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, that person, Oh my gosh, what that person
just to see me? Okay, I just need that from
(28:34):
that person. It's like no, no no, no, I pray, I say, God,
use show me who you're gonna use. Yeah, And that
that's really what it is. So the enemy can does
the same thing. He works through people. So I when
when people are behaving badly, I try I don't put
(28:57):
it on the person. I say, oh, okay, you're being
used right now. Okay, okay, you're trying to test me. Okay,
you're trying to see how farmago. Oh okay, you're gonna
see if I'm you want to see if I'm a
customer out. Okay, you want to You know what I'm saying,
You're being used as an instrument right now to to
(29:21):
uh teach me something. And I wasn't always you know,
thinking like on this high, I was listen you better.
I was about to ask you when did you find
out who you were? You know, I was I've been
searching for who I was for a long time, right,
(29:42):
and so here's the problem. I was searching for who
I was. I am who I am? Where's the GPS?
Where is the GPS show you where you are? So wait,
(30:03):
when did that click? He read some people, Oh I
read something? When did the click? It belongs out? It
was very recent. It wasn't like, oh my god, like
it was very recent. I was reading. I've always read
the Bible, but I would just read it like like
a verse here, verse there or whatever like that. But
(30:24):
I said to myself, like a few years ago, like
I just wanted to read the Bible front to back,
not for like, oh I'm trying to like get deeper
into my spirit. No, I just was like I just
wanted to read it like a book. What like, what
is it? Let me just I don't know how many
so what you were able to read it like a
book front about? I haven't finished yet, but now and
(30:46):
I said, this was a few years ago, So I'm
I'm a slow reader. Andy, I got so many books
on my sholf. I haven't finished, but it's been a process.
But one something I read took my socks off. It
was so simple, and I can't remember the exact verse,
but it said, um, the human spirit is God's lamp. Oh,
(31:11):
catch it, catch it, go ahead, I'm listening God's lamp.
And then I read something else that say you are
God's lights. Now this wasn't a different verse. You are
God's light. I said, Oh my gosh, that's who I am.
It's so simple, it's not confusing. All this time I
(31:34):
thought it was so confusing. I thought it was like
this deep, like like where is it? And come to
find out, just shine, m m. That's what this Vitamin
Deep podcast is. All that. You see what I'm saying,
it's just all about being a reflection. And then I
have this quote always say, what allows a diamond to
(31:54):
shine are the multitudes of cuts that have been placed
within it. If you think about it, the value just congratulations,
are you married yet? I know you're recently engaged. I'm
engaged the wedding planning. Yes, But just like your diamond
that you have, and just like us being diamonds, we
have different cuts, whether it is you know, being in
(32:16):
a single family household and just because there are some
things that you're not gonna you know, receive, not because
somebody's lacking, it's not there, obesity, depression, whatever it comes.
But just like you said, being that lamp and then
walking in your light, what happens when the light hit
the cut on the diamond and when you're not at
the point where you're trying to hide or be something
(32:36):
that you're not, you're so you that it's crystal clear.
What m hm m hm. You can't help, but shund
you know what I'm saying. But here's the thing. It's
interesting that you were just talking about the Bible and
talking about reading. What are you Christian? I am? I
identify as Christian, But love, love, let me be st
don't don't forget your thoughts because I know I don't
(32:57):
know what you're about to say. Bad. No, it's gonna
teach me something and I want to hear it. But
let me let me. I just want to define this.
I do because I do believe in Jesus Um. I
have my own ideas about that. Another another thing that
I read in the Bible. One thing I grew up
around a lot of different religions. I have one grandmother
(33:17):
that's Jehovah's witness. I have one grandmother that's Pentecostal Baptist.
I have an uncle that's Nation Islam. My best friend
was Catholic. She's she was Puerto Rican and Catholic. So
and I would go um to all of the different
services with all of these different people in my life,
and all of these people are beautiful, loving people, but
(33:38):
they believe something different. But what I learned is that
it doesn't matter what you want to call it, you know,
but you just know there's something greater than us, and
there is UM. I don't call college college which you
want to call it. Believe how you want to believe it.
But if it's leading you to be the best virtual,
(34:00):
then just go for it. And nobody's wrong and nobody's wrong.
And so for me, I I do believe that Jesus
UM was a great man, a prophet. I believe that.
You know, when you read about him in the Bible,
it's such a short um. The peace about him is
(34:22):
not even as long as people think it is um
and and his life was short, but it was a
prolific life. Come on the things that I love about Jesus.
I don't try to make Jesus like I. Don't be
like Jesus. If you don't believe in Jesus. Somebody's wrong
with you. Like no, like okay, believe what you want
(34:44):
to believe. But the thing of the things that I
love about Jesus and admire is his confidence. I love
how what he did believe, he believed like he you
could not shake him a rock. I'm gonna tell him
who he was, what your fact? Hold up? He came
out period, he said, I am period, I'm the great
(35:07):
I him, yes, and and I The other thing I
love how he walked in any room in front of
the Pharaoh, in front of the governor, he don't you're
just a man who like, okay, Hi, I'm Jesus. Nice
to meet you. Oh you say you you you're the
You're the Messiah. That's who you saying? I am? What's up?
(35:30):
You know? I just love his that confidence about him,
that he couldn't be rocked, and those I take the
qualities from it. I don't, you know, get caught up
in you know, all this other stuff that people get
caught up in. So but no, no, go at your point,
what were you saying, You're I don't know exactly where
I was going, but it's basically echoing the same thing
(35:51):
of what you were saying of just uh, like you
were talking about reading it. I haven't read the Bible. Um,
I probably read you know, different things and different scriptures. Uh.
I don't subscribe to Christianity, but I know who my
God is. But what I can say, you will often
hear me, you know, quote various things from the Bible,
because we can't negate the fact that we are spiritual
beings having a human experience. And with that in plant mind,
(36:14):
it's just the same thing of saying, hey, whether there's
light and darker yet and a yang, there's an understanding
the communication. And so this spiritself needs to understand how
to work around in this physical self. And so you
can't tell me that somebody that is located in Africa
may know what an igloo looks like back way back
(36:34):
in the day, or to know that it was existing,
or to know that my skin or that color needs
to be that way just because of proximity. But it's
everything that you said, is that it's just a way
so to communicate, so that you can understand. And if
we get out of the way of trying to hold
people in the box. I I eat Lady Ella to
Christie Um, we understand that it's just so much bigger.
(36:56):
And it's just like kind of like how they say,
like a goldfish, you have goldfishers around younger and you know,
you go to an amusement part, you throw a little ball.
You really just throw a little ball over there at
the stay fair, and um, it will go into the
fish tank you want to fish. And oftentimes they'd say,
like with goldfish, they'll only grow the size of the
tank that they're in. And I feel like for some
(37:16):
people who may not conceive, you know, above and beyond
your faith, your bubble becomes right there. And like from
my evolution happened in the world religious class when I
was learning about Buddhism, Judaism, like ship Touism, like everything.
I probably made that last one up, But like you said,
it's the same principality. And even if we look at
(37:37):
just like with all the dynamics of every character, you know,
whether they're you know, trying to hold up, you know,
you just see so many different dynamics. You can't negate
the fact that everybody is human and we're just trying
to survive. That's it. That's it. Like, and the dynamic
with saints and centers being that this family is the
(37:59):
head of the church, like they this is their church
that they owned. It's been passed down from generation to generation.
And that people in the in the just because you
go to church or you're like a leader of a church,
you're not like you're not perfect, like you're not you're
(38:22):
you're human being, You're just And that's the thing with
this Johnson family. The church Lady Bird played by the
incredible Dobbisco. Everybody loves. It's either you love like you
love to hate Lady Bird, like she's so amazing, like
(38:43):
everything about her. She's the perfect villain I think she
is the most incredible villain ever. She needs to go
out there in history. You know of great villains, television villains.
But she even with her she has her own story.
She wanted a better life for herself, and she married
(39:03):
this guy and they started this church. And she said,
you know what, I'm gonna create who I am. I'm
gonna I'm gonna create myself. No, I'm going to become
this prestigious lady in the community. I'm gonna run this town.
Nobody's ever gonna take anything from me again. When you
(39:27):
when you pull back the layer of every character on
Saints and Center. There is a purpose that is greater
or deeper than just the mistakes. And you're gonna get
people later on in the season. You're gonna see that
in in in Lady Bird and in all the different characters.
(39:50):
I can't oh my god, I can't wait for people
to see what's gonna happen with this? It is what's
your wait? What do you okay? You can't tell us anything,
but what can you give us something? Something we may feel? Uh?
What can I nibble on something? I want to tell
(40:11):
you so bad I want it. Blew my mind. When
we were in the table read, you know, we were
reading the whole season, I said, what she did? That's
a and heat. But then now, oh my, Nigel Campbell
shout out to Nigel Campbell, our showrunner, the writer. He
(40:35):
he's so amazing, He's Nigel. His mind is gonna acid
because it's some crazy stuff going. I mean, each moment
it's like but in a good way. And I think
even leaving off the season from I was like, yeah,
I like, how you didn't how could how do you?
(40:58):
How do you not know? Like and then that show
that you okay, all right, so you can't tell us that. Um,
I want to thank you. We've been on here chatting.
Is there anything else we should look out for you? Yes,
I'm starring in a movie. It's it'll be in theaters
this summer. I'm so excited myself, Taran Manny, Corey Hardrick. Uh.
(41:23):
The movie is called Karen. Karen Okay. It's so though,
written and directed by Called Daniels. I mean, come on,
it's I don't even have to tell you anything else.
It's called Karen. Yes. So some things will be coming
out more and more in the next coming months, and
(41:44):
we can, you know, get back on another call and
talk about that that's coming up. And you know, more
music is coming for me. I mean so excited about
my music that's coming. Where can we find it? It's
on me everywhere you can buy music I'm on and
we'll send it to you because that sounds good. Get
(42:04):
it in your rotation, all right? And now how can
people follow you on social media? It's at th h
e Jasmine Burke on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter at th e
Jasmine Berk. Hello. And now one thing I asked for
every person to do as I told you. Vitamin D
(42:24):
is a multi vitamin for your mind, body and soul.
So I love for my guests to leave just a
dose of inspiration, just shutting some light on something, a quote,
a lesson that you learned, or just something that's positive.
M I like that. So I'm Jasmine Burke and my
dose of vitamin D is In the Bible, it says
(42:45):
that these words are for your interpretation. I think people
miss that all the time. It is not meant you
can listen to whoever you want to listen to to
hear the stories and the words, But it really is
meant for you to read it and to take from it.
What you take from it, and what you take from
(43:06):
it is the right thing. There is no wrong thing
to take from it. It's meant for your interpretation, for
you to have a personal experience with the creator. So
go and get your personal experience and don't let anybody
steer you from it. You can never be wrong about
what you feel. For you bars drop it. That's beautiful.
(43:30):
Oh my gosh, that was amazing. I don't know if
I even I don't think I've seen that. It's not
like I would because I don't read it all the time.
But that was so great, You're amazing. Thank you for
joining us. I mean, if you haven't already, make sure
you check out Saints and Centers on Bounce TV, premiered
(43:51):
last night, April eleven. And is there anything else I missed? Oh? Yes,
one other thing. This is a treat you're hearing it first. Actually,
so every Sunday before the episode comes on, you are
gonna be able to live chat with me and the
(44:15):
entire cast on the Bounce TV Facebook. So the episode,
so the like thirty minutes before it comes on, meet
us over there on the Bounce TV Facebook and I
will be hosting a live chat with the fans and
the cast. You can ask us anything you want and
(44:37):
we're gonna give you our recap and and just get
you even more hyped for the episode. Stays the Center
Season five live hosted by a Jasmine Birk on Bounce
TVs Facebook page. There you go. You got it? Yes,
you thought I wasn't gonna come, oh go one day
(44:57):
all day, but I couldn't have done it with thou Jasmine?
Did you receive it? Who better else is to be
than you? You don't have to subscribe to anybody else
or anyone else but you and I hope that all
(45:18):
and everything that Jasmine has said that you're not allowing
yourself to get lost in the sauce because you spend
time with yourself. You checked in with yourself. You've done
the word to know so and you understand that your
past is behind you and that's not where you're going way.
So if you're not going that way, why are you
looking that way? You gotta ask yourself what do you
want in life? Who do you want to be? And
(45:40):
and really tap into the fact of understanding whether or
not you have the vision? Do you say the greater
the vision, the greater the reward. What do you want
to receive? Huh? What do you see for yourself? That's
all I want you to answer. And heck, you get
a lot of that in this conversation with you ASTHM
and I'm so great before and I just hope that
(46:01):
it was something that you can receive. And look, this
lady is young, lady is brilliant. So you gotta make
sure you follow her on all social media at the
Jasmine Burke, Okay, catch it while its high she's moving
and doing her thing. Now in the between time, if
you'd like to be a guest on the podcast, or
(46:21):
perhaps you want to submit an advice letter. I encourage
you to email vitamin D at Dawn Day Speaks dot com. Okay.
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And did you know as we leave out each and
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