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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, what's going on? It is the Voice of the Nets.
I'm Chris Carrino. Great to have with us. Thank you
for subscribing. Give us a good rating to the Voice
of the Nets podcast. We are going through a number
of players that we thought could be impactful to the
Nets this year, have been with the team in the past,
and we wanted to have kind of a conversation about
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these guys. The great Lucas Kaplan of Nets Daily has
done some film breakdown on these players, available on all
the social media and digital platforms of the Nets. Great
to have Lucas be a part of the family, and
Tim Capstrow, my longtime radio partner, joining us at his
perspective as well. I don't know if there was a
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more intriguing young player last year that we saw put
on a Net uniform than the guy we're going to
talk about right now, and that's Noah Clowney, you know,
the youngest player that the Nets ever drafted until Derek
Whitehead came around the next pick. I had that word correct, right,
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it was. It was Noah than Derek. He was he
was he had broken he had broken the record of
Derek favors and become the youngest player ever drafted by
the Nets, and then that was lasted a couple of minutes,
and then he was the second youngest because Jerike Whitehead
came after him. But really, these guys are are they were?
They were drafted and they're not even twenty years old.
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You talk about upside, you talk about excitement, you talk
about what can these guys become? And Noah Clowney was
kind of billed as, Hey, it's Nick Claxton with a
jump shot, and I don't know if that was fair
to him. I don't know that's fair to Nick Claxton.
But you get kind of where they were going, right.
We get center, long armed, skinny, can guard multiple positions,
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a guy that could switch every position and was adept
at shooting the three. You know at Alabama shot the
three well, with the exception of one little spurt in
the middle of the season which really dragged down his
shooting percentage. When you got a closer look at him, though,
he saw, wow, guy, he's so young. He's not as
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tall as Nick Claxton. He doesn't look like a jump shooter.
So maybe you were a little tentative and going, I
don't know, maybe I don't know, really, that's it. That's
a high bar, Nick Clackson with a jump shot. Then
he goes to Long Island and he's electrifying. Right, He's
doing all the things you hoped he can do in more.
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And then I think we don't expect it, right, We
we thought he's gonna be a G League star, He's
gonna be a Long Island net all year. We didn't
expect to see him. We're in a Brooklyn uniform. And
then not only does he wear a Brooklyn uniform, he
is excelling. And then last year the season doesn't really
go the way they wants. He's getting a lot of
chances to play, and man, he's got us jumping out
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of our seats. Literally, Capra's dropping his pen, his glasses,
He's jumping up and down out of his seats and
some of the things that Noah Clowney is doing late
in the year, Cabra, why were you jumping out of
your seat? What were you seeing in Noah Clowney that
had you? That had you leading the cheers at Barkley si.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Ah, an awful lot things that suppressed Well, I knew
he had you see him shooting around, He's got a
very good looking shot. He's going to shoot the ball
well in this in the league. Right then you watched
him at times handle the basketball like handle it like
I definitely able to handle it, saying, well, boy, you know,
he's got a lot going on there, and then you
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started envisioning, Yeah, he could play some five for you,
but he certainly could be a four. He could play
some four for you, you could play alongside guys. And
I just liked his overall everything about him, Chris, I
loved it. I was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I was taken back.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't think I ever misjudged anyone so significant, from
the first time I saw them as a net to
the you know, to the you know at the end
of last year, or even into this summer, when I
was blown away again when I see him diving on
the floor, draws charges you know what he does well.
This is an interesting thing because this bugs me in
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the NBA. The missship block shot really drives me nuts.
He doesn't go for block shots that he can't get.
He's a great verticality guy. He'll go straight up on
his health defense. He knows how to play, he shoots
it well. He can play more than one position.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think they stole a good player there, and I
did not see. Usually you can see it pretty quick,
you can say to yourself, I say, yeah, I see
the future in this guy. I didn't see it right away,
but man, I saw it as the season went on,
and I'm really really excited.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, the the clock the Clason comparison makes sense as
sort of an elevator pitch, Like this guy moves differently.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
That's the really the thing that gets your attention.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He's six ' nine six ' ten, with longer arms
than that, you know, plus seven foot wingspan, and just
the way he moves is uncommon and I there's not
a better way to say it, at least for me.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And all of the things that kaeper said.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The verticality at the rim made him such a like
a fierce rim protector right away, and he was disciplined,
like he's going straight up he's vertical. And then at
the same time, he has this uncommon hand eye coordination
for a guy that lanky and athletic. You know, you
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normally expect those guys to look a little awkward, to
maybe not have great hands. But when he goes vertical
and then he makes a swipe at the ball, he's
so accurate with it. You know, the block rate of
two and a half percent for any stats out there
is elite. You know, he's getting his hands all over
the place, and then that bodes really well for the
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three point shooting. So overall, you just have this unique
prospect that has already shown that he can contribute on
an NBA court. I know is a sample, you know,
a small sample at the end of the regular season,
but at least with Clowney, Yeah, he has this high potential.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
There's so much there to work with. That's all true.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But also, I we just watched him be a good
NBA player for like days games, a couple of weeks
at a time, no matter what part of the season
it comes in.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
It's not it's not all the time. You see a
teenager do that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, against good teams who needed to win these games
late in the season. And I think you talk about
his defensive prowess and you tin out the numbers, Lucas
his ability to block with either hand too, right like
he could some guys are just you know, right hand
like shooters, right handed shot blockers, left handed shot. He
can your shot. Impress me when he'd block block shots
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in transition right, chasing down guys. The thing is about
Noah Clowney. Is he's not six ' eleven. Yeah, he's long.
You know, he's a he's six ' nine. And if
you're gonna play him at center, you you are kind
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of and he's gonna listen, he's gonna have to work
with the net staff and get stronger and bigger.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
He knows that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You're you're kind of playing small ball center if he's
your center, because the bigger guys are gonna be able
to dominate him physically. So if he's gonna play center,
if he's gonna play another position, if he's the four,
or you're playing a long lineup and you got him
another position, he's going to have to also shoot the
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ball really well. Does he have that potential, you know,
to shoot the ball well enough to not be just
a good shooter for a center, but now when you
play the three of the four, you've got to be
a good shooter. Does he have that potential?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I think he does. I think he really does.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I think that the ball out of his hands looks
like looks good to me.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Uh you know, you know, maybe it certainly as a four.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know what I mean, you know, yeah, can he
be a stretch four?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I think yeah. I think he can play alongside guys.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think they're gonna be great length on the interior
the way you know, as a as an extra shot.
You know, you don't see that many teams that have
two or it could have two guys that could really
be uh, you know, interior shot blockers on the floor.
At the same time, I think he's got all the ingredients.
Seems to have the attitude, the approach, his skill level,
and again he can handle the ball.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Lucas.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was perfectly said. The way he moves, he moves
differently than six nine guys do, and you're right, he's
not that big, but he could. He's gonna have positional
versatility and he's going to keep getting better.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Its a great such a great get. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We saw him, you know, slide on the perimeter on
defense with guys and in the film breakdown I did
of him, especially in Long Island, he has these plays
where he attacks a closeout and like slithers along the baseline.
We saw it in Brooklyn a couple times too. You know,
he'll do a spin move and all of a sudden
he's at the rim, So the shooting has to be
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at a certain level, but so too does Okay, what
happens if he's on the perimeter and they close out,
what happens when he puts the.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Ball on the floor.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
We've seen positive stuff there too. It's just this combination
of so many different skills that if even a couple
of them, not all of them, but if even two
or three of them really pop and get to an
above average level, this is like a really good NBA.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Player all of a sudden.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, And to say that about a guy we all
thought was a project teenager, one of the youngest players
in the draft needs to get a lot stronger might
take a while.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
The fact that we're.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Saying this, you know, in year before year two, Yeah,
I think just goes to show why we're all why
we're speaking with this tone about him.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
If there's anything that came out of those late season
games last year that you say, all right, well, you
know you want to be productive, right, we want those
games to be productive somehow. And there was no better
example than the experience that Noah Clowney got and the
ability to see from a net standpoint of what Noah
Clowney can be. I think the again to stay along
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the Claxton comparison, is that what we where we saw
a huge development in Nick Claxton over the years was
his ability to do something with the ball when he's
got it right in the high posts. Like may not
be a great shooter, but he could he could make
decisions with the ball. You can play through him a
little bit. Noah, Clowney's got a little more. Maybe even
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down the road, you could be even better than that
in terms of being able to play through him a
little bit. If he is playing the five or he
is playing the four, play through him in the high post,
because as you said, Luke, he's got that ability to
spin and drive and that is valuable also, especially if
you can be a threat to shoot it from the
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elbow or a top of the key right like, because
then you could do so much with a big man
who can shoot it from the top of the key
but also can get to the basket.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That's modern NBA offense right there.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's what it is right now to have a five
that can do a lot and compliment that with shooting
the basketball. It just makes the entire five out flow
of the of the offense. Those are the teams that
are having success in the NBA right now.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Like I have to give a shout out to Muffan Udophia,
the head coach of the Long Island Nets. You know
Long Island has, you know, when Ronnie Burrell was down there,
helped Brooklyn out a ton with their development. Last year,
they played him as the five. He would play drop coverage, which,
as you said, maybe he's not a true five at
the NBA level, but regardless, he's gonna have to play
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some he's going to have to be good at that.
And then on the offensive end, they alternated all the
time between him setting a screen and rolling to the basket,
but also standing on the corner, standing on the wing,
you know, playing five out, you know, attack of closeout,
shoot a three basketball. I think what he showed down
there was really positive and really crucial for his development
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as this guy that can it's versatility. I know that's
kind of become a buzzword, but all of a sudden, Okay,
he looks good in drop coverage. We know he can
slide on the perimeter, he can block shots coming over
from the weak side, or as the main guy for
you know, some spurts a game, and then on offense,
it's oh, he can roll to the basket, he can
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set screens, but also he can play this five out
style of basketball that we're talking about. The enticing thing
with Clowney is he gives you a lot of options.
He can play next to any number of guys in
the lineup. And when you have a guy with that
varied skill set for a young team building toward a
long term future, as Brooklyn does, it gives you optionality.
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It gives you, you know, many pathways with players to
choose from.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
And when I sat down with him after the draft
last year, he shows a there's a contemplative side of
Noah Clowney. There's a thoughtful side of Noah Clowney. He's
a mature young man. Again, going back to guys, you
coaches don't lose sleepover guys that you know are going
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to handle themselves the right way. Noah Clowney is just
he's that guy. I mean, he's just a he's quiet,
but he's a very nice, thoughtful young man. So I
think from that standpoint too, you don't worry about him.
I think he's going to always play hard and I
think it's a credit to him, you know, knowing what
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he heard it. He knew he was young, and he said, hey,
I'm gonna I'm gonna show you. But he didn't do
it in a in a in a boastful way. He
had a very I just love his demeanor and uh.
But but it shows you there's a there's a willingness
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to do whatever it takes to get better, and a
strength of character I think from him that makes him
really really intriguing. In one of the biggest bright spots.
I think that came out of the twenty three to
twenty four season and then looking ahead now to twenty
four to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And another great example of why Nets fans and everyone
should be excited about the amount of draft picks the
Nets have in the future go going forward. They're just
their ability to evaluate talent, character and development potential in players.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I think Noah Clowney is another one of those examples.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
He could go on for a while of the different
players that were drafted nineteen twenties through the twenties that
have just turned out to be very, very good NBA players.
That's why you know there's reason for excitement.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
And the last thing I'll say about Noah in addition
to all of what Chris said about the character, which
is true, He's got some nasty to him on the court,
even as like a young, skinny teenager.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I mean, you saw it last year. It's like the
kind of attitude you want from a guy in his.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Position, and it's a nastiness on the court, and he's
a different guy off the court. And I think that's
a great combination. That was always a criticism of a
guy like Jared Allen and it may still be a
little bit of a criticism of a guy Jared Allen that,
you know, such a nice guy off the court, so
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talented and can do everything, but maybe got bullied a
little bit sometimes on the court, and you know he's
he's overcome that to become you know, he's an All
Star and he went to Cleveland. But there's still a
little bit of that. But I think Noah Clowney's got yeah, yeah,
he's not. Don't don't mistake kindness for weakness. That is
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that is Noah Clowney right there. And the next level
for Noah again in improving these things like the jump
shot and getting a little bigger and stronger is you've
got to go from being he's really great for a
late first round nineteen year old, Yeah, that goes away.
Then you just have to be really great, like now
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you're going to be compared to twenty two year old
twenty three year olds who were lottery picks. Can you
match up with them? Is what we're going to see.
And I and again you talk about something to tune
in and watch. I know it got us excited last year, Kapra,
We're doing a game and they can become a grind
late in the season, especially teams not winning and they're
out of the race. It was exciting, know, And when
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we're watching a game, we're calling game. When Noah Clowney
was checking it, it was exciting. It was exciting to
see and NET fan should be excited about that this year.
Lucas Kaplan, Tim Capstraw, thank you so much. Again, that
was a fun episode. There I'm talking about Noah Clowney.
This is the Voice of the Nets. I'm Chris Carrino.
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