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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Last year we spoke was right after you got drafted.
I mean we've.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Spoken maybe fround in a quarter or a hotel, but
not sitting down talking. You were such a young player
being drafted, youngest player ever to be drafted by the
Nets at the time until I think Drek came. So,
how do you think you've grown as a as a person?
(00:36):
I know you're a pretty introspective guy. How do you
think you've grown as a person over the last year?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
A lot a lot of different ways mature, you know,
just as anyone my age would. But I think specifically
my patience has grown a lot. I think I've become
a lot more patient, and it's got a long way
to go. You know, being patient is probably one of
the hardest things to do in life, to me at least,
so I'm trying to get better at that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, most people don't move to New York and
become more patient. Yeah, become a little less patient. Are
you speaking then, in terms of kind of getting your opportunities,
because I think you probably got more NBA opportunities last
year than I think people anticipated coming of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Probably so just because you know, I didn't have a
great Summer League. Most people didn't expect much from me,
And you know, I think in these walls here we
have here in this gym, everybody sees me play, so
they know what I'm working towards. They know how I'm
getting better, they know how I'm improving each and every day,
whereas the outside world only sees what I've shown them.
And that was the Summer League. So yeah, but you know,
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being patient in life in general outside of basketball as well,
it's been important to me.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, you look like you've gotten a little Yeah, yeah, right,
I mean everybody talked about that last year. Well, I
know it is you know, maybe get him in the
get get him. I don't know if it's the weight room, food.
What was your regimen like over the summer to kind
of was it? Was it trying to put on bulk, strength, combination.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Get stronger my mangal is getting stronger, about looking bigger,
et cetera. It doesn't it doesn't matter to me. Just
getting stronger internally stronger like things like core strength. Don't
nobody see how strong your core is, but it's important
for balance and a lot of other things.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Do you feel when you when you put you have
you put on weight for sure last year? So is it?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Does it feel good? Yeah? I feel like I get
used to it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I feel like I still can move, like, yeah, I
don't feel like I'm out here just getting big and
bulky and slow or yeah, I still feel good.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think everybody was thrilled when they saw you get
your opportunity in the NBA last year. I mean, you
were playing really well in the G League, but when
you were given the opportunities, you made the most of them.
How did you feel your first season at the NBA
level was Was it what you expected, easier than you expected?
(03:03):
Kind of give me your thoughts on it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's hard. It's hard to say because it's like, you know,
different situations. You know, I got a young guy, I've
seen them play in the g you know the other
players they didn't, you know, probably respect me much. So
it's like I'm getting a lot of open shots because
people don't respect my shot. So it's like, well that
continue maybe a little bit. But if I'm consistent in
my shot, obviously they're not just going to keep letting
me shoot the ball. So it's going to be more
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decision making to be made. I think It'll that ups
and downs how I look at it. It'll get harder
at points, it could easier at points because I think,
along with other people changing how they play me or
play the team in general, I'm going to develop my
own game as well. And so that's why I say
up and down.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So when you're looking at work on developing your game further,
where what is the next frontier for you? What are
the things you want to start to do back, I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Gotta be able to put the ball on the floor better.
I think I've gotten a lot better, you know, making
decisions in the pocket, making the right passes. I want
to be able to make those same passes after putting
the ball on the ground, or you know, just being
able to create for my own not necessarily shooting crazy
step backs or nothing like that, but you know, getting
to the cup strong finishes versus fading away things like that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The shot right like, I know last year when we
spoke coming out of college, you said, well, my percentage
wasn't great, but I had a bad stretch of games
there and it kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Took it down. You look comfortable shooting on the perimeter, right, like?
Is that?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So is the three point shot something that you anticipate,
you know, being a stretch guy. Can you do that
or is that is that kind of a last resort
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I want to I want to improve my shots at
the point where teams are like running him off the line,
and you get to that point, it opens up everything. Yeah,
so yeah, that's my goal.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So they want to make them go out and have
to guard you out there? Right defensively, I think is
where you really opened a lot of eyes. I think
people knew you were a good defender, but your ability
to guard multiple positions I would imagine is that is
going to be something that will help you in your
NBA career. Is that something you can work on. How
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do you feel you've done with that?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, we do work on defense, like individual defense at
that one one, and you know, it's something I got
to be great at, elite at that. I want to
be elite at that. And I feel like if you
can guard multiple positions, you're elite at guarding and you
can shoot the ball at a high level. He's always
a spot on you on some team, us on the
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floor somewhere, and so it's like those are like more
personal goals. Obviously, I'm here in Brooklyn. I want to
be in Brooklyn. I'm not insinuating any I mean none
of that, none of that. But you know, obviously, long term,
I gotta think about me and I got to be
able to play in any any type of way, any system, anything.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
There are the Nick Claxton comparisons all the time when
you came in. You know, you're both from South Carolina
originally and went to Georgia. But you Jordi Frantez just
kind of put that out there, right of like Nick
Klaxon's a guy gets drafted thirty first pick in the draft,
ends up becoming one hundred million dollar player, you know,
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and then was a project at the time when he
came in. See a guy you look at, say, hey,
with this developmental approach and this kind of skill.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Set, that can happen to me as well.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
For sure. I'll look at how quickly I improve in
certain areas and things like that, and I'm like, if
I can no, obviously I'm not going to be able
to get everything as quick as I can catch onto
some things. I happen to be able to catch on
the things as far as the mental side of basketball
pretty quickly and so that's helped me a lot. But
there are some things that I still haven't got and
(06:51):
I don't have at the moment, and you know, I
feel like with the development we do have here, Yeah,
so when this contracts, I think I will be looking
towards a bigger one.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I guess obviously what you're alluding to is the
fact that if the organization makes a commitment to Nick Claxton,
do you feel that that's a he's a guy that
you're competing with for minutes or do you feel like
you can play next to Nick, you can find a
role so that it's not just you know, he's not
sort of putting a ceiling on you here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
For sure, I think we can play together. I think
we had good stretches when we did play together. So yeah,
him him getting this big contract and knowing he's gonna
get minute it, it doesn't concern me.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's a lot of length. When you were out there
with Nick and shot blocking ability. You have a great
knack for being able to block shots with either hand,
shadow drivers and things like that. Like that's some of
the most impressive stuff for me. Anybody a lot of
guys come over and make a weak side block or
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but your ability to kind of block guys on the
drive it blew me away last year. Is that is
that something that you've sort of had in you developed?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Can you explain that.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
When you stay on the drive, you mean like as
me guarding them as primary defender. So yeah, in high
school a lot I would if I switched. You know,
my feet weren't as quick. I get beat a lot,
and so I get beat. It was just kind of like,
I'm gonna let you get this layup off and I'm
gonna go and meet it on the glass. Obviously at
the NBA level is not nearly that. If you let
them beat you, they're putting at the top of the
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glass and you're not touching that ball. They're getting two
points every time. So I've kind of found my medium
of you know, how I can use my limp to
disrupt people. If I can make somebody drive baseline and
if they want to pass out, they got to throw
it up over my length. I know we're gonna have
time to rotate or do whatever we have to do
on the backside. Things like that, you know, just not
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giving guys any easy look and you know everybody makes mistakes,
but I think that's something I've been really good at,
is recovering from mistakes, and so I think that'll be
big for me too.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Racing right or shot blockers can erase a lot of mistakes,
even even with the the guys in front of you,
the guards, right, they they have now freedom to make
some mistakes or they take some chances. I guess when
they know you have got you back there. Uh that's
how about you? Like like your your summer. I saw
you at a Met game. Yeah, it looked like you
(09:22):
were having a good time. You were miked up for
the Nets. Uh social media department? Were you always a
baseball fan? Is that something you just honked up?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So that's my first ever like professional baseball game. But
I played baseball when I was younger, so I was,
you know, I've always been into baseball. I took a
break back when I watched it, you know, I was.
I watched the Yankees when I was really young, you know,
Alex Derek Zeer type time. But now it's like, no,
I still watch it. I like Aaron Judge for the Yankees.
But my first game obviously lose the Mets game, So
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got me a what was it you and.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Jail, was it Jalen Martin? Yeah, and then you guys
had good seats.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, right right behind the catcher. It was great seats.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You see a walk off or something, you had a
big home run and.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh yeah, there's a few of them. It was a
few of them. Yeah, they got busy. I can't remember
all the names. I think Francisco hit one. I'm saying
his name correctly. Pete, Pete, Pete something, Pete something.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, I remember that he was talking about his name
Pete or something like that and he was like, my
bad Pete. Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, what is it like me? I mean, your peers.
You know, you're going there and there.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You know it's New York and it's a baseball team,
but you're a professional athlete playing in the same city.
Is there that camaraderie with guys you get to know
other guys and other sports?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I don't really like, I feel like I'm a
fan of the game, and that's in a lot of sports.
So I never like go into situations like I feel like, yeah,
you should talk to me, or I have a higher
chance of talking to you to anybody else in here,
just because I have a title of profession tied to
my name. I truly don't even if I see a
public professional athlete in public, I'd more than like leaving
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them alone, because I know a lot of times when
I'm in public, you know, I don't mind talking to people,
especially kids, you know, things like that. But it's like
all the time people don't want to be bothered all
the time with their profession.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But you do have a you do share something that
that a lot of people can't relate to, you know,
so obviously there's stuff you could talk shop in that regard.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, I haven't had much conversation with professional athletes of
other sports.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Give me some time, Yeah, young, I think it will happen.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Living in this area in New York and no, no, no,
it's a different vibe than where you're from in South
Carolina very much.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So. Did you you.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Know, going out to City Field. I'm sure you did
some other things around the city.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Is it. Have you gotten accustomed to being around here?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, it's different. Sometimes I just go out and walk,
you know, it's you know, we can't do that back on.
I mean you can, but you're gonna be walking for
a long time before you see something if I just
go out and walk, you know, I've been the Fifth.
I'll walk around Fifth. Sometimes anybody recognize you. Do people
stop you on the street. It's rare.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's rare.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think it'll be more common when people start to
see me. But sometimes people just be like, yo, what's up? No,
like like this shouted and one person shouted from across
the street. I'm like, you know, what's up? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
New Yorkers are not that way, Like they don't really
bother you. They're not starstruck.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, they just give you, like I know who you are,
just give you like, hey, yo, what's up?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
They see this every day. It's nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, that's a that's one thing that you do, you know,
get used to, Like I admire about New Yorkers. You know,
they got to battle for everything. But certainly that's a
that's a way about it. So, uh, going into this season,
what are some of the I know, Jordi Fernandez has
said this that there's really no hierarchy on this team
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that's set in stone going forward. Everybody's gonna get what
they earn right right now. Is that exciting opportunity for you?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah? I feel like that's how I should be on
any giving roster though. You know, you earn what you
get what you earning. We got a lot of guys
that a Hume Grand one Iron something, so see how
it goes well.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Noah Clowney really enjoyed watching you play last year. I
think it was one of the things we for a
season that wasn't going in a great direction late in
the year, coming to the arena and seeing what you
had in store for us that night was it made
it fun to come to the games, and I'm I'm
thinking that way now going forward. One of the things
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I'm looking forward to the show. I don't know how
many games you guys are going to win this year,
but I know one of the things that'll keep me
excited going to the game and.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Seeing you in your development. So we appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Thank you so much for doing I appreciate you