January 20, 2022 • 53 mins
This week, Dope KNife and Linqua Franqa examine all kind of wildness happening in our musicopolitical landscape: Young Dolph's alleged killer dropping a music video on the day of his arrest; Kanye meeting with Putin, and liberal Russiagate hysteria; and a police officer choking a fellow officer in the line of duty in Sunrise, Florida.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You are listening to Waiting on Reparations, a production of
My Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's happening? I'm good?
How are you? Who are we? Are we waiting on Reparations?
Are you dope? Knife? Am I lingual? Frazio? We certainly are.
This is Waiting on Reparation, the show where we talk
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hip hop and politics, and I guess all the things
in between, things in between, what we got in between
this week? What you've been up to? What's on your mind? Oh?
I had a birthday over these yea happy birthday? Yeah,
you know, birthday weekend. What can you do? You know
you have to you gotta sell her. I don't usually
celebrate the birthday like all out every year. You know
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what I'm saying that I guess, the older than I get,
I feel like I'm mad. It's really only like a
celebrate it like every like three or four birthday exactly.
But I mean I didn't necessarily go all out. We
are still in the middle of a pandemic. But you know,
just hung out with some friends, took it easy for
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the first time in a long time. Did anyone else
important to have a birthday on Monday Saturday? I don't
know if I would say important, but I mean, you know,
like you know it could be you know certain certain
you know great American figures have a birthday, possible holiday
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inducing then you know rioters, degenerates. Yeah, we look people
who get their messages, you know, kind of manipulated and
through time and used by people who weren't necessarily on
their side. Anybody who the FBI urged to kill themselves
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have a birthday. Recently, I get this weird feeling there
was a guy, some kind of man. There's a starting
to sound like the longest running dad joke that has
ever been. You guys all know who the man the legend?
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What did you do for your MLK day? I mean
it is well from a mixture of just logistics, challenges
of having a tiny human strapped to my soul, and
as well calls from the king family themselves for no
celebration until passage of voting reds Bill, I didn't really
do much in terms of public appearances of any kind.
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I just kind of spent the day listening to some
old speeches of his um and just kind of reflecting on,
really reflecting on how hated he was in his day. UM,
Like you know, perusing political cartoons from the king archives
from the time, you know, folks. You know, like there
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was one where he's like officiating a mixed marriage of
like a white and black character with one of them
hats on their back, like the anti war movement, and
the other is like civil civil rights and it's supposed
to be like, oh, like a interracial marriage with this
dirty scoundrel scalawag. Because another one where like he's sitting
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drinking at a bar and like this small child was
grabbing his coat like come back, dad, and like, uh,
the little child is like labeled as a civil rights movement,
and then he's drinking out of the bottles of like
anti Vietnam and like communism or something, and it's just
like bra so many of the moderates, like he called it.
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And the thing is about listening to speeches is he
calls out bipartisan function like Democrats and Republicans being shitty,
and you know, the whole letter from Birmingham jail kind
out the white marlerates even like the moderate as bitches
out here like the fucking Chuck Schumers of the world
would have reviled this man and vice versa. Yeah, but
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I mean, nobody would have reviled him more than the
right wingers out there, who, more than anybody, claim his
message to be their own, as if what Martin Luther
King was actually to like as if like the dominating
you know thing about Martin Luther King was, Hey, I
don't see race, you know. You know, It's like I
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find it hard to believe that. I think we've talked
about this before, but I find it hard to believe
that a twenty year old Martin Luther King right now
would be if you would be hearing Ben Shapiro, you
know what I'm saying, like name dropped their quote. It's
not even hard to like learn about what he was about.
Like I'm sure you could extrapolate whatever you want from
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like half listening to his speeches in the background while
you worked like I was doing on Monday. But like, yeah,
there's so much more than you know. The color blinds
like the single word they try to draw from, like
you know, I have a dream or whatever. Like literally
all it takes to turn on this thing. Okay, I
got this really crazy thing called YouTube. Go on there
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and you google. In the YouTube, I hear the kids
say for his name and it will give you a
bunch of speeches where you can actually hear the ship.
He said, It's like so like it's not even hard.
It's like zero intellectual curiosity from the like you don't
even you don't even google it to see, like I don't.
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I don't think that. I don't think that it's like
a lack of wanting to know or anything like that.
I think that's the point of it. I mean, it's
a reason why you know, the conservatives are quick to
drop the I have a dream speech, you know, from
Martin Luther King, but then behind the scenes, you know,
a lot of the you know, the components of these
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anti CRT I just lay is to make the letter
from Birmingham like bann and that they can't teach that
or teach any other aspect of what he said, you know,
as if like all of Martin Luther King's involvement in
the civil rights movement was I think, you know, judge,
judge somebody by the content of their character and not
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by the you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty
sure he said more and even even that, I'm sure
there was like there was a context to it that
I don't think a lot of these right wingers are
using in good faith. But I mean, you're right, Martin
Luther King was a brother who was giving it to everybody,
and you know, I'm saying he was not having it.
So definitely a lot of the moderates who who think
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that they're down with m okay probably wouldn't be now.
But you know, I think it goes without saying that
Martin Luther King, we're here to defend himself. Like there's
no way that you know, the Laura Ingram's and Bill o'
radley's of the world would think to to name drop
of if he was here to get on the TV
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and be like, yo, don't don't don't met you by day.
I'm not gonna say I like, it's you know, it's
funked up that he got assassinated as ship. But what
I will say is that I have also been you know,
y'all on the show here we talk a lot about
like liberation movement history that I staid, And so I've
recently been reading Elaine Brown's autobiography. She was the only
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female um like chairperson of the Black Panther Party and
so in studying just like learning more about her and
her role in the Black Panther Party and what she
did afterwards. I watched some interviews with her recently, and
it's bad. She is not cool anymore. And then do
you think about I mean, she's just like, well, first
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of all, there's no like ideological coherence to like the
thing she says. Like. I saw this one interview where
she was like, to fund the like no, literally, so
she starts, she opens the interview say, back in the day,
we used to talk about often the pigs and that
was a great slogan. Let's bring that back, okay, And
then literally later on was critiquing I guess the young
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people she was talking to, saying to fund the police
has gone too far, and y'all are like, y'all need
to get out and talk to more black people because
black people don't really want to fund the police. So
it's just like and then she gets on this rant
about pronouns and it's like the language police. And so
I said to say, a lot of our leaders who
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we still have today didn't really keep up with the
radical spirit they engendered as young people, you know, talking
about Aldredge clever, fucking I don't know even to a
degree John Lewis with like, you know, didn't always hold
it down for for quite everything, but uh so I
feel like it would have been uh I don't know,
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it would be interesting to see what it was, what
it would be like if folks like mL Hey and
Malcolm X were like here today, what positions they would
hold today. Yeah, I mean, you're right, but I mean
it's like again, I just I just know that they
used to call the brother communists, you know, like even
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even before there was any they you know, they used
to call him communists without even any understanding of whether
or not he actually was a problem. That's never been true.
It's never not been the case. But I'm just saying,
like again, with that said a twenty year old, a
twenty year old race and socially conscious communists, you know
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what I'm saying, Like, there's no there's there's no way
any of them are like or giving him any sort
of props for anything anything period. Well we give you
and then oh I'm sorry, sorry, you know this this
year was fell on m LK Day, but my birthday,
I mean, because usually it doesn't, you know, I'm about
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to ask, like, how does it feel every single year
was like it was a there was a point and
there was like a point in time I remember where
like whenever I would share with people like the other
famous people who have my birthday, because there's a there's
a couple of other cats who do have a birthday.
I think me and Michelle Obama share the same birthday.
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Jim Carey has the birthday. Um, I think like Kid Rock,
Muhammad Ali or something like that, you know what I mean,
Like I got I sure a birthday was you know,
not Kid Rock, but I sure birthday with some cool cats.
There's some famous cats. And I remember for a long
time there was a period whenever I would tell people that, like, oh,
this famous person have my birthday, I would always just
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include M LK in that because I thought that his
birthday was on my birthday. And then I think, I
don't understand that Monday was not his birthday. I kind
of that I've coped. I'm gonna lie to you. So
what is it? It's like, what is the like what
the big third Monday in uh in January? Yeah, and
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so it's like near his birthday, but like they keep
the date the same day. Okay, yeah, alright, that makes sense. Well,
ship I mean, yeah, props to him, Pat myself. Happy birthday, bitch.
I've fared when I was when I was a younger man,
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you know, when I wasn't expecting sorry, they weren't expecting
black men to live past the sex. Look at you,
you're almost older than Okay was when he got domed.
Oh ship, I don't even want to think about that ship.
Oh God. Anyway, anyway, what are we getting into. We
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got a little bit everything. We're gonna talk a little
bit about young Dolph uh and uh, a little bit
of that um tragedy and controversy, Kanye doing Kanye Uh.
We're gonna talk a little bit about going on Russia Ukraine.
So a little bit of everything, and we will be
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right back with that after we take a little break.
All right, So we are back. So what's the first
story to um? So, I'm sure most listeners know about
the death of young Dolph? Um he how long ago
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was this that? Actually I should have pulled up pause,
maybe like a month and a half pause and pull
up actual some source on this, so I don't sunk
up the details. It was November seventeen, alright, Okay, So,
um So, Young Dolph uh was a was the Tennessee
Bass I fucking forget everything. Yeah yeah, Memphis, let me
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try this game. So um, as I'm sure listeners are
already aware, Memphis based rapper Young Dolf was shot and
killed on November seventeenth of last year. Um he you know,
had peaked number thirty five on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
was coming up in the game and struck down in
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his prime. But then last week his one of his
suspected killer's who was wanted by the police, dropped a
new song. On the day that he also announced that
he would be turning himself into the authorities and was
later arrested. So this other Memphis rapper named straight Drop,
also known as twenty three year old Justin Johnson dropping
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a music video for his new song track Hawk, and
then the next day was apprehended by US Marshalls in
Indiana and charged with first degree murder. The weekend prior,
Straight Drop posted a message on his Instagram story on
which he said he was gonna be turning himself on
in on Monday. He was innocent and he'd be back soon.
But we'll see about that as he is now in
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UH police custody and because clearly not really been taking
this situation too seriously. Too seriously well, I mean, so
I'm very curious as to what your reaction. Man, I
really you know what I want of those people, as
you know, again, listen to the show notes that always
tries to find the systemic and underlying causes of a
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lot of just funked up ship that happens, because I
think I ultimately have to uproot that in order to
change situations. Right, But I've been recently encountering a lot
of examples where people just do dumb shit and like
hal and I'm having to face the fact of first
of all, like you can't evade discussions of public personal
responsibility forever. Like this nigga decided, like you know, people
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was looking for him, and maybe he was like getting
a little acclaimed. Those folks knew he was a suspect,
and I wanted to ride that to like fucking news
a video like I mean, look again, you know, going
off of the words of it. It's always weird with
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these stories because it's like, all right, so dudes being
accused by the cops and I don't want to, you know,
but I meanly allegedly shot allegedly, but again, you know,
a lot of this it's it's it's consistent and it
makes sense. I don't know if it's a generational thing
or what. I don't know. It's a social media driven
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sort of thing. Again, I don't know, but God didn't
we want to talk about not having sources. I forget
the name of the rapper, but just a couple of
weeks ago, another you know, similar situation with a young
New York rapper who they've got him on camera, you know,
or allegedly I'll say, on camera it definitely looks like him,
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but committing a murder and then later on the same day,
like flexing on Instagram in the same design, in the
same designer gear that he just committed a murder that
was in broad daylight in the middle of the street,
that like, you know, and it's almost as if there's
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like no like understanding that it's like, yo, I'm on
camera and yeah, I mean I recently, I think I
mentioned in a recent episode that I went and spoke
at a bond hearing for a local rapper and friend,
like loose friend that we've been was charged with the
attempted murder and spoke on like the stuff he's done
the community, for the kids, And then the prosecution in
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the cross examination purely focused on the fact that after
the shooting happened, like the next day, this cat dropped
a music video called who Shot at Me? Where he's
talking about I'm gonna find you and feel you and
ship and like flashing guns in the video. And so
was his bond hearing of like what should we at
this guy back on the streets, And they were grilling
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me on like did you see this music video? Did
you see him with like the gun? And the music
video he said, did you hear the part where he
says he's gonna go shoot shoot these people? And I
had to be like yeah, but like but ultimately like
it doesn't I mean, I felt like it doesn't discredit
what I have seen him do in the community. Also
knowing that a lot of these people, like I talked
to him all earlier today he was like, yo, if
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don cheatle like like directed a film that's all about
this murder, this mass murder, and he's in the film
murdering people. Can you put him on And then later
he murdered someone. Can you put him on the stand
and say that, like oh you had the murder movie
like that, Like, yo, you definitely did the murder Like no,
it's art And that was his argument, like yo, like
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I had to like show up and look tough because
I wasn't gonna people fun with me, etcetera. Like and
that kind of makes sense. But I think to a
different level, I want to agree with you though, it's
like there is a certain sense of like, don't do
that what you do? Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's
like it's you know, there's I guess at some points
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that can kind of be a fine line between um,
you know, we always want to look at the macro
reasons for why things happen and for why people do
the things that they do so well, you know, we
want to like analyze the structures and stuff and understand
that ship doesn't just like boil down as simple to
pull your bootstraps up. And you know what I mean
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personal responsibility not like not everything fits into that box,
you know what I'm saying. So that there there's that
on one hand, and then there's the also you know,
like man on like a common sense aspect. You know,
there's there's right, and there's rob you know what I'm saying,
and like, I don't I don't think that that there
has to be like necessarily like a conflict in understanding
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one thing and like or like performing performing one of
those like ways of a understanding the world and the
other you know, I think that you can still like
look at the bigger picture as to why people do
the things that they do, and why people feel that
they're in the situations they're in and things like that,
and then also recognize that people make choices. Yeah, people,
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And for me, it's really been casting me to reflect.
A third thing that really got me thinking about this
lately is that it's snowed here on Sunday. This snow
hasn't been so it's down here on Sunday. Really really
cuteby was posted and they agnore me picks with their
dirty snow men and they're cute toddlers like snow Nancy um.
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And so I worked with some like local like homeless
advocates to like get some people some hotel rooms that
were like sleeping outside, and that was great. Got a
lot of people have a cold, great, So we were
looking at extending their stays for like like past when
the cold, you know, the past when the snow belts
or whatever, because we had we had the fun to
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do so. But some of these cats got fucking kicked
out of the hotels smoking inside. So one of them
brought a dog, and it was just like god, damn
it fuck. But so it really it really caused me
to pause and reflect on like because I often talk
about like the roads to quote unquote collective liberation and
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how like the generations long struggle and like it's gonna
outlast us. You know, it's gonna you know, the next
generation is gonna go and finish the job. But like
that sounds really optimistic and rosie, but like that's the
case because things are gonna keep sucking up on the
way they're like you can get somebody stable shelter and
they could get themselves kicked out because they're smoking. Because
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like if you have your whole life getting shipped on
and beat down, like a single day of a kind
act or even a year of like support to stop
sucking up, like is not even enough to help someone
really really get out of it. Like you know that
cat you saw in the video who like murder or
the guy on camera, and then it was like wilding out,
like a lot of stuff led him to that point,
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and it would require a whole whole whole lot of
ship to like transform the underlying conditions that created to
put him in a spot where he thought this was
a good fucking idea. Right, Like people are gonna like,
we're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting, and people
are kind of keep sucking up because it's gonna take
a really like if we're really serious about like fixing
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a lot of problems in society, like it's he gonna
take a real long time because the weird dealing with real,
real bad ship. That's that's true. But again I'm gonna
I hate playing Devil's advocate in these situations. But again,
you know, if somebody wants to be like yo, young
such and such rapper grabbed the bank and then was
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like flexing on Instagram and didn't understand the blah blah
blah or like young whatever rapper got into a fight
with some cops of blah blah blah blah blah, then
I mean for me personally, it's like then I could,
I guess can be more comfortable looking at it in
those terms. And ship like that, when we're talking about ship,
like you shot somebody like a randy, you know, some
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rando outside of a vodega. It's like there's nothing like
I don't feel that I'm like serving any community at
large by like coverage someone like that, like funk that guy. Honestly,
it's like, yeah, there's a level of personal responsibility to it,
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and so honestly unpopular take I have on these things
sometimes and I talked to other activists about this. I mean,
it goes back to what Frederick Douglas said about it's
easier to build strong children than repair broken men, and
so want to talk about like transformer society. Honestly, I'm
not only talking about helping that dude that like shot
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somebody on camera, Like when you get to that point,
Like I don't want to say people are irredeemable. I
stually believe that with a significant investment of resources and
time to help people like that, they can get better.
But like, honestly, it's so like it would be probably
be a lot easier just to make sure if people
don't even end up there, Like let's get the kids.
I focus so much on new development. Get the kids,
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get them healthy and like you know, ready for adulthood
and making good choices and then in like twenty years,
we won't have these kind of problems. I mean, I
just try to keep it consistent, you know, so for
me personally, you know what I mean. So it's like
if I'm looking at the news and it's like, yo,
crazy white boy went crazy and took his gun and
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shot blah blah blah blah. You can give me whatever
reasons you want. I don't care, you know what I mean.
I don't. I don't. I don't care why I don't care.
Like there's there's nothing that anyone's gonna say that's gonna
make me like, oh, you know, but I guess you
know what I'm saying. So if you want to so,
I'm just I'm not gonna like hear like YO, such
and such rapper, you know, like shot just or gotten
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to a scuffle and thought or went to a don't
you know, I mean like Young Dolph got shot in
the back of the doing a shop. You know what
I mean. By Google's acting like they were in a mob,
you know what I mean, And like allegedly motherfucker's just
dropping singles like afterwards. So it's just like that whole thing.
It's just like it's a level of fuckory that I
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personally feel like, you know, you know, like hey man,
that there's no there's no place for that. There's really
nothing to cover up. What's different between like my approach
and maybe a lot of other people that have that
reaction because also it's like, yeah, this person needs to
help account held accountable. Our system for that right now
is jail. Sick you did it, and now you're going
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to jail. But like a sense of curiosity about how
somebody got to that point, because even if it's like
there's something we can do for you, we can learn
from that of like how the fund do you end
up at the point where you shoot somebody in the
back of the doughnut shop? Yeah, And which is why
I solely mean that. It's like like like I feel
like it's a discussion like that. I feel like you
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can still look at the situation be like oh, such
and such, such and such. There is a lot, like
you said, intellectual curiosity. There's a lot to be gained
by understanding why that person was, you know what I
mean in that situation. But like that's a conversation for
like outside people to have, like people who are looking
at it like from an intellectual, you know, analytical standpoint
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and stuff. The people who are involved in the ship
are gonna look at the ship like the people who
are involved the ship like either you're directly involved, Hey
my cousin, my my brother, my sister was killed, you know,
or you know, I know the people who were the
victim of that, and you're gonna react accordingly. So all
I'm saying is it's like if there are people if
if the d A's like, hey, such and such is
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accused of a crime, and then we have them on
tape talking about crimes. So of course they're going to
use that at that is what I'm saying. It seems
like they would, whether it's fair or unfair. I don't
necessarily think that, like the don Cheatle example is like
necessarily like fair because you've got to add some caveats
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into it. If it's like, oh Jane made a movie
that was like if I had done it, you know
what I'm saying, and then you and then they wanted
to use that movie as evidence, I don't think I
would be saying no, you can't, you can't. I want
to use example. Well, two things I want to say
quick first to respond to that point and then respond
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to earlier point. So, Luis c. K had jokes in
his stand up about masturbating in front of people that
didn't want to watch, and everybody laughed and once I
was uncomfortable, and then they moved on, and then he
actually later really did it, and so like y'all like
so but that you know, but there's a disconnect and like, oh,
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you see something like that in a comedy special, you
might think is a little weird, but you move on.
You don't like go home and call the police, and like, hey,
I think Louis K is like sexually harassing people, you know, like,
but gets excused from it because there art is. You know,
they're millionaires. And and I'm gonna keep it consistent and
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say that that shouldn't be the case, you know what
I mean, Like, in my personal opinion, that shouldn't be
the case if I don't and I don't necessarily know
the full details of how it went down and shipped
like that. But if if person X is a Louis c.
K fan and then somebody says, oh, Luisy K did
X to me, even if you're a fan, you're like, oh,
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I don't believe that. I like Louis k and then
you got him on tape talking about, oh I like
to do this, I like to do this. I think
it opens up you know. I mean I don't think
that that that that that's like uh, you know, causing
a factor or like oh that means that that person
did that. But I mean, if you want to bring
that into the discussion, I don't see why not, you
know what I mean, if somebody like Louisy Kay did
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this to me, look at these tapes where he's talking
about it, maybe that was a great example, like you know,
I know, but I don't know. I think I think
it was a good example. All I'm saying is that
I'm just and again I can only speak for myself.
It is like I agree with you. I just try
to keep that energy because like I don't like asking
people to do stuff that I know I wouldn't do,
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you know what I'm saying. So I know that if
I were personally involved in some of these situations, I
wouldn't be able to look at it outside of that
personal you know, like like impact zone of how it
affects me and ship like that. So if it's my
community if it's my my family member, my friend or
something like that, I'm gonna have like more of a
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like I'm just not gonna be as understanding of these
like bigger micro macro issues and like that. So I'm
just I'm just more understanding when when people are The
second thing I wanted to respond to is you said
that that what I'm talking about is an intellectual exercise
that is done by folks that aren't impacted by violence.
And I want to remind you the listeners that I like,
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I don't like, I don't mean to bring it to
bring the energy down real quick, but like I like
started thinking about the ship when my fucking I got
murdered man, and like I was like everybody was like,
oh she get the death penalty, da, And like I
literally can look at my family and be like, I
this mom, this dude's mom as bipolar disorders, addicted to crack.
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Like he grew up in the middle of nowhere, only
options go to military where he learned how to fucking
use a bunch of fancy guns and grenades, and ship
came out and of course he fucking killed somebody. And
so I was like, oh, I could like see the
background of this person's life that led them to become
a murderer. And so I've been saying, like, you know,
it is probably rare. I mean, like my opinion is
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very very much not of the majority or whatever, but
like there's a lot of people impacted by violence who
who because they are they lose a loved one or
you know, to incarceration or violence stuff whatever. I can
see the backwards, like you know, the bread crumbs of
like how it should ended up the way it was.
And I definitely don't mean like it's it's only it's
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reserved for people who aren't impacted by violence. I just meant,
like on a case to case basis, based on how
it like personally affects you as all. It's all I bad,
you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's a
it's a difficult it's a difficult conversation and it's definitely
a difficult topic that everybody. Everybody's going to have a
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different reaction to. All I'm saying is I just I
just personally I understand it. I understand why not everybody
tries to have or why everybody likes I understand why
not everybody can easily jump into that proper analytical phase
of talking about this. People know that people, people understand,
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people know what they're where all the time, understand but
it's just hard to like then channel into like a
direction where you understand what needs to change through it. Like,
so don't link all that together. But so I had
a story that came up, um that I wanted to
run by you. That's kind kind of related to, you know,
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changing systems and stuff like that. I don't know if
you saw this viral video, but the Sunrise Police Department
in Florida is probing a sergeant who allegedly I mean,
I gotta say allegedly, right, but I mean the sis'll
tape I saw that they could do anyway they had.
They had a suspect that was had a It was
a you know, white officer, black male suspect was in
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the back seat of the patrol car handcuff. They're the
this veteran officer of twenty one years, giant, big dude.
He apparently came in the tape that was released. The
sound and audio was was out, so you couldn't hear
what was being said, but this was confirmed by the
police chief later on. He came into the scene. He
escalated the situation and then he pulled out his pepper
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spray and was getting ready to spray the handcuffs suspect
in the back seat, and a newer female officer like
immediately grabbed him by the belt and pulled him away
from the suspect, and he immediately grabbed her by the
neck and slammed her and gets the car in front
of all of her colleague. Um, he's been he's been
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placed on i think nonpaid administrative leave and and in this,
in this regards to, you know, the props of the chief,
the chief of that particular precinct has come out and
it has been like, yo, she did the right thing.
This is a disgusting So I don't you know, I
don't think they're but it's really it's really blatant and
really obvious. I mean, he he grabbed like his first
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instinct is to grab her by her throat, you know
what I'm saying. And he's like a giant dude and
she's like a regular sized woman. And it's just like
it looked like he's kind of used to grabbing women
by the people. And I always trying to tell me
when like I'm on my ship, you know, I'm on
one about shit. Like, oh well, people always use these
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like stories from other places to like say we need
to make change here. We don't really have these problems here.
But like, first of all, these always different police departments
get the same kind of go to the same kinds
of conferences, get the same kinds of training. There we
have we have, you know, the police, the police chief
of one city will go to another city, or or
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a police officer get fired from one city and got
another city. A couple of years ago, we had this
dude that like ran like a suspect over with his car,
didn't even know if it was the right dude, and
like got fired and just went to the next county
over and he um and and they could fucking suit
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the county for wrongful dismissal and defamation for saying that
he shouldn't have hit the guy and got like like
half a million dollars. But anyway, that's beside the point,
although I do want to use that to explain that
um the Athens Clark County police chief announced today that
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he is leaving and explains that I have no comment
on the matter because I you know, how like okay,
you know, how like you can't give a negative reference
for an employee, like it's it's illegal. A lot of
places like you either like just don't do it, or
you have to say something positive or it's like defamation
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or something. Yeah, so you can't. You your old boss
can would be like so I'm just gonna say that
and leave it at that. But anyway, so yeah, so
you get like police officers that go to different precincts,
go to different places. You get this these national trainings
that all of them go to and come back to you.
So it's like a like a national only systemic thing
as well as the kind of people that want to
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get into law enforcement. And so that ship is wild.
That ship, that ship is just wild. I mean, that's crazy. Well,
I mean we we were just talking about personal responsibility
and people inexplicably doing things on camera and on social
media that are like inexplicable. But I don't know, it
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must be you know, maybe maybe somebody way smarter than
me is most likely analyzing this ship. But there's gotta
be some sort of terminology for the phenomenon and still
doing it. Anyway, First of all, too many fucking cops
do that ship? Too many teenagers do that ship. Let's
keep it real. Too many girlfriends just going to not
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not paying attention to that. Um what else you got?
The sucking the people who stormed the capitol? Do you
know how many people storm the capital and the next
day called the lost and found to say that they
lost ship inside FBI? How can I help you? Oh
you left your bear miss and Nancy Pelosi's checks are
you real quick? And they put you on hold and
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it's like knock, knock, knock, it's a swat team. It's
thrown smoked maid in the house. And people are on
live streams like in the middle of riding like, oh, dude,
I just got in a fight with some cops. That
ship was dope, son, Yeah, man, we bear mass this
one cop. He's on the ground. He was bleeding as
this is. That's and then like interested, they're like, oh,
how did you guys catch me? Like I will also
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say that pretends to the earlier debate, Um, they didn't
touch fun. A lot of folks that do wild shit
like this, not all of them, but particularly time where
it's like a shot yesterday ha ha. Like even if
they don't express it. They express a lot of bracketdocio. Yeah,
and the ship. There is a mindset of disposability that
people have where it's like my life doesn't mean ship anyway. No,
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Like everybody, fucking like the whole system thinks I'm worthless,
So why don't not fucking shoot a guy on a camera?
Like everybody goes to jail, Like everyone thinks I'm gonna
do something like that anyway. Fuck it. So back to
that a little bit, not to excuse that not you know,
it's personal, personal choice ultimately, but like another part of
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like understanding how we fucking get here in the first place,
where you're shooting a cat in the back of the
head and don't not shut well, I mean, what do
you think of that? What do you what do you
think about the notion of It's like, yeah, it's a
personal choice. It's just I don't think I think that
we can have an opinion of whether or not it's
a good choice or not, you know, I mean, or
another or whether or another right choice. Like I mean,
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not that you're saying that we shouldn't, but you know
that's why it's like I always I feel, I feel,
I always feel like a sense of conflict on on
these sort of topics just because you know, my father
worked for the State Department when I was a kid.
I've yeah, I've got family and law enforcement and ship
like that, so I know i'd always you don't want
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to give full disclosure, you know, I definitely have that
sort of you know, connection or indirect connection or whatever
you want to call it to these things. So it's
like just to before we move on, just to stress.
I just I always just try to like put myself
in other people's shoes just for the merely for nothing
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other than just the exercise of understanding where other people
are coming from, you know what I mean. So it's
like I understand why some people perhaps may have like
a bit more lead more right on these certain issues
than perhaps I do, you know personally, you know what
I'm saying. And I just I just feel like like
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like having like having that understanding and not just necessarily
assuming that it's because they're a ship, live or right
wing or you know what I mean, is helpful in
the discose. Yeah, yeah, I would love to understand the
underlying conditions that brought this cop in Sunrise, Florida to
just like be so aggro that he not only bear
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Mason's handcuff suspect, but choked his visit fellow officer. Officer, Like, bro,
how do you guess at that point, like it really
looked like some you know, roid rage because he's like
a jack up juice stuff. Do you know what I mean?
It looked like some roid rage type of like unstable
ship for a twenty one year vet. So I mean,
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I'm just saying, public defenders, any case that this dude
has worked, I need to read this. I'll need to
re examine that ship, bro, Like tomorrow, it's gotta another
story I think we got. I was gonna think you
think we should just do one more? Yeah we can, Yeah,
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we can do this. So back to wondering how the
fund did people get in the situation that they're in
perpetual ship get in her Kanye West is going to
Russia to me with Vladimir Putin so UM. On Tuesday,
January Levin, Billboard reported that Yea I planned on going
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to Moscow to meet with the Russian President and hold
multiple Sunday services UM as its first ever shows in
the country of Russia. As ultimate purpose for the trip,
Um was to begin expanding his businesses overseas, and an
advisor to Kanye told Billboard that um Russia is going
to be a second home for Kanye, which I'm sure
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the libs are absolutely losing their mind about, or they
or I could see if the white people, if the
white ones even knew this was happening, they probably don't
follow music news. If they found out, they probably completely
lose their minds because of Russia Gate, Wold Trump Russia ship,
Uh that people still, you know, I think frequently, and
I believe I've discussed this on the show before, whether
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the Russia Gate hysteria opened the door for challenging election
integrity and ultimately what happened on January six, I don't think.
I mean, I hate, I can get another topic that's
going to force me to be so one on the
side of the lives. But I don't know. I'm not
necessarily I would not classify myself as being in on
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Russia Gate hysteria or whatever whatever, but I tend to be.
You know, if it looks like a duck and it
quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck, you know
what I mean. So like, if if motherfucker's is like
having clandestine meetings and hotels and this and that, and
wild motherfucker's is going to jail for lying to this
and lying to that. And then every time they're accused,
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their number one thing is you don't have the evidence
to prove that, as opposed to saying no, I didn't
do it. I'm just not inclined to think that they're innocent,
you know. So that that's just that's just the basis
of how I going Now, however else this wants to manifest.
You know, I don't necessarily think having that view means
that you want world War three with Russia tomorrow, you know.
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But with the Kanye situation, it's just interesting because it's like,
you know, there's there's like some pretty fucked up homophobic
laws that are like in the book in Russia. Bro. Yeah,
the U. S. Department like they currently lest Russia with
like a level four do not travel advisory given terrorism,
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harassment by Russian government security officials, arbitrary enforcement of local
laws you and Russia's on the brink of invading or like.
So yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like I I um, yeah,
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the whole that's weird. It's again it's it's Kanye, So
you know, weird goes in the book with it. But
it's just another addition onto this like right wing drift
in this like plausibly deniable right wing fascist ship culturally
that's going on in this country that I think, you know,
wittingly or unwittingly, sir, celebrity figures are playing into. And
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I think that's what this is because because to me,
it's like that's always you know, for the last like
five six, seven years, that's always been like my suspicion
of what the Republican infatuation is with Russia. Now, you
know what I'm saying, which is why I just I
don't care what lives are saying. Yeah, I really don't.
I'm looking at what Republicans are doing and what they're
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saying themselves, you know what I mean. So if if
when I if like when I was in like early college,
if Republicans were like itching at the bit, like we
hate Russia, we hate it, we hate it, we hate it,
and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, no,
we love Russia and Russia is awesome. No, it's great,
we love it. Yeah, No, Putin would be a better
president than an American president blah blah, we love it.
I don't know, I'm just not inclined to look at
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that and be like mm hmm, I can't stand Hill
reclap like no, no, I mean, like I'm I just
feel like there has to be a line somewhere because
like I mean, I've seen this one left. We talk
about this in the to Turn this election. You see
this to this day with like Bernie Sanders supporters said
the election was stolen, like when you let that, like,
I feel like sometimes when narratives like that are allowed
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to flourish, like they are taken up and when even
when they are legitimate and but people kind of run
away with them, like it does open up like this
grounds on which you can contest any kind of flaw,
you know, like actually any sort of working of democracy
as such that you don't whose outcomes you don't like.
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But do you think that this is not similar to
the like argument about the you know, the filibuster thinks
exactly the Republicans saying the Democrats loved the filibuster, butant
we were in power now they hate it, and it's like, yeah,
well fuck you got. I don't know, they like if
you don't have some consistency, they'll call you out. But
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I think again, it's just a matter of like whether
you think Republicans are operating in good faith or not. So,
you know, I mean, and like, so for somebody who
doesn't believe so, for somebody who genuinely believes that, hey,
Republicans would not be talking about the election is stolen.
The election is stolen if people hadn't brought up Russia
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Gate and that hadn't been a big story. If somebody
believes that, then I understand totally why you know, you
would look at like Russia Gate with this like skeptical
like sort of thing. I don't believe that. I think
the Republicans are gonna like link between Russia Gate and
January six. I'm saying, like over and over again, there's
there are these competing tensions between factions where like when
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you lose, you say they cheated, Like no one ever
fucking just loses because they sucked. They just lose because
the other people cheated. Um, and so like I don't know,
I mean, also coming from someone that thinks that the
Left needs to play dirtier because other motherfucker's area are
willing to cheat. Yeah, it's like like the Republicans are
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just they are willing to do what they feel they
need to do to attain power, and they are not
concerned with what Democrats are going to do or not do.
This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
I here's here's what I'm saying. If the Democrats don't
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break the filibuster, the Republicans will the same way. We're
like pussyfooting about with the Supreme Court. No, we don't
know if we want to do the Supreme Court. No,
maybe I should. We shouldn't push this issue for this
person to retire so that their slack can get filled,
because oh, we don't know. That's all assuming that the
Republicans aren't gonna be craving when they get the opportunity
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to you know. So it's all projections. So if if
we if we funk around, like not believing them when
they say the ship that they're gonna that they're gonna do,
and the ship that they're into, like the election, you know,
election to disputes. I think that that was coming regardless
because they were disputing the election in before any like
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before anybody was really talking about Russia before the elect
before election even happened, they were talking saying, oh, it's stolen,
you know. So I I look at that sort of
thing that was always going to be a part of
their playbook, and that they don't need any excuse, you know,
you know what I mean, like us being like like
people who are on the left being like, oh, man,
the January six writers need to be held accountable. The
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state needs to come after the We can have whatever
objections that we have with it, but I don't think
that one of those objections should be. Man, you know
what if we keep pushing for the state to go
after the January six rioters, then the Republicans are gonna
come after us the next time that we have a
BLF march, like like they're gonna, you know, like the
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minute that they get the minute again. They had unmarked
black van snatching people off the streets, but they had power.
I don't think you need you even need to say
more about that. There was no conservative voice, there was
no speed free speech warrior, none of them had any
objection to it. You didn't hear Joe rogan sation about oh,
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why are they snatching these protesters off the street with
fucking ice agents from Texas that were in Portland for
some strange reason. Why is that happening? Why Why are
unidentified a jack booted thugs snatching demonstrated on the street.
They didn't give a funk about that ship when it
was happening, the Antifa guys, so they're they're ready there
with the ships. They're ready to use the state to crush,
(48:36):
to crush the scent, you know what I mean. And
if if if Democrats keep going with ship, assuming whether
it's Democrats or whether it's like people who are more radical,
you know what I mean, If you assume that the
Republicans are playing the game the way that we are,
I just think that's how we lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry. I didn't mean. You just got me thinking
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about using the state to crush people. Perhaps closing, I
will circle back around to this particular quote that stuck
out to me from an MLK speech I listened to
on Monday. It was the speech at the National Conference
on New Politics in Chicago, and MLK said, I think
it might be a little flight paraphrase, but more or less,
um is poverty and unemployment rages in the black ghetto.
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The bipartisan responses, an anti riot bill instead of an
anti poverty program. And it just really hit me because
literally last week I was talking about the police chief
quick this week, well last week it was mentioned last
episode I had some choice awards for him at the
meeting where I was like, I don't really want to
talk to you. I don't really trust you, you know,
bah bah bah, because in that meeting, you know, in
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response for a year, for years now, decades now, even
you know, the black community has been calling for investment
in our people, and you know BLM, you know, the
uprising was all about that, all about that, and here
we are about a year and a half later, and
their responses, Well, people didn't like that we use tear
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gas on the protesters, so we bought a sound cannon
to blow their ear drums out and give them permanent
neurological damage. Um oh, and can we also give every
police officer a tactical rifle? So like literally today we're
still doing it. And like this is the bipartisan response.
It's not just like the right wing. Note like I
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don't even say, like I don't even want to say
like democrats like want to use the state to crush
the scent, but like they certainly let it happen. Like
there's Democrats sitting in this commission meeting, like tactical rifles
forever bloy not blest, sound cannon blow out people's ear drums.
I well, you know, okay, sure, I don't know, like
why not? So yeah, I know you're oncent correct about
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that ship. I don't know what it's gonna take, but
we gotta snap out of it somehow, Like you know,
it's it's really disappointing to hear that everything. You didn't
tell that story. You told that story last week, and
it was disappointing to hear because it's like the thing
after all of that marching and all of that demonstrating
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and organizing, that a year and a half later, we're
talking about tear gas and chow colds. You know what
I'm saying. That's that's that's the change, that's the that's
the that's the that's the that's the systemic you know,
issues that were like you can't not like nothing gets done.
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Just that's not like oh, politicians are just inspired and
go fight for ship. They fight for ship. They realized
they gotta do ship. They're forced to do ship by
like the masses of people organized and so like a
lot of people woke the funk up and they're like, oh,
ship changinging, make me like light bulbs going off everywhere,
and like that's not going, that's not you can't put
that cab back in the bag. And so yes, we
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have not seen like in a substantive way, all of
that organizing and marching and getting you know, thrown to
the ground and Mason shipped like bear fruit. But those people,
those millions of people like dy an't go that cat
ain't going back in the bag. Tell you some now,
that's what's gonna get interesting. But you know, here we
are today. All we can do is um, keep hope
(52:19):
alive and spit bars. I was gonna try to make
it rhyme and make a bar out of it. I
was gonna say, like, keep hope alive and slap it
on the black hand side or something like that. I
don't know. Let's get you some real beats, real bars,
Joe Mariah said, piece and bars like go hard in
(52:41):
the paint and my roots is far Jeff Jarrett on
these rappers like a cheap guitar. I came up in
the flames and I keep the scars, but don't Missy
exceptly just one year old. They've been nice with the
flow sest the day kissed roll Up, but it got
me pissed. I watched Foxes, cannot be it. Keep m
ok Coast all about your Nazi lips. They try hard,
but it's nonsense. Reparations give us five stars in the
(53:02):
comment towards me, and I'll take a step backwards because
I don't buy my hate this and what the fucking
hats so I asked to let past it and bet
about it. I'm passive, but that don't mean that I
am a cowward like Martin lu Mahatma Gandhi. I used
my words to set on my comflicts rather than try
to shoot you be cool Brooks around the stampasac than
to rock and a rather understanding did. I never haven't
tried to Yo yo, yo yo. My name is Dope
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hip hop and politics, and I guess all the things
in between, things in between, what we got in between
this week? What you've been up to? What's on your mind? Oh?
I had a birthday over these yea happy birthday? Yeah,
you know, birthday weekend. What can you do? You know
you have to you gotta sell her. I don't usually
celebrate the birthday like all out every year. You know
(00:47):
what I'm saying that I guess, the older than I get,
I feel like I'm mad. It's really only like a
celebrate it like every like three or four birthday exactly.
But I mean I didn't necessarily go all out. We
are still in the middle of a pandemic. But you know,
just hung out with some friends, took it easy for
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the first time in a long time. Did anyone else
important to have a birthday on Monday Saturday? I don't
know if I would say important, but I mean, you know,
like you know it could be you know certain certain
you know great American figures have a birthday, possible holiday
(01:32):
inducing then you know rioters, degenerates. Yeah, we look people
who get their messages, you know, kind of manipulated and
through time and used by people who weren't necessarily on
their side. Anybody who the FBI urged to kill themselves
(01:52):
have a birthday. Recently, I get this weird feeling there
was a guy, some kind of man. There's a starting
to sound like the longest running dad joke that has
ever been. You guys all know who the man the legend?
(02:16):
What did you do for your MLK day? I mean
it is well from a mixture of just logistics, challenges
of having a tiny human strapped to my soul, and
as well calls from the king family themselves for no
celebration until passage of voting reds Bill, I didn't really
do much in terms of public appearances of any kind.
(02:39):
I just kind of spent the day listening to some
old speeches of his um and just kind of reflecting on,
really reflecting on how hated he was in his day. UM,
Like you know, perusing political cartoons from the king archives
from the time, you know, folks. You know, like there
(02:59):
was one where he's like officiating a mixed marriage of
like a white and black character with one of them
hats on their back, like the anti war movement, and
the other is like civil civil rights and it's supposed
to be like, oh, like a interracial marriage with this
dirty scoundrel scalawag. Because another one where like he's sitting
(03:21):
drinking at a bar and like this small child was
grabbing his coat like come back, dad, and like, uh,
the little child is like labeled as a civil rights movement,
and then he's drinking out of the bottles of like
anti Vietnam and like communism or something, and it's just
like bra so many of the moderates, like he called it.
(03:43):
And the thing is about listening to speeches is he
calls out bipartisan function like Democrats and Republicans being shitty,
and you know, the whole letter from Birmingham jail kind
out the white marlerates even like the moderate as bitches
out here like the fucking Chuck Schumers of the world
would have reviled this man and vice versa. Yeah, but
(04:07):
I mean, nobody would have reviled him more than the
right wingers out there, who, more than anybody, claim his
message to be their own, as if what Martin Luther
King was actually to like as if like the dominating
you know thing about Martin Luther King was, Hey, I
don't see race, you know. You know, It's like I
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find it hard to believe that. I think we've talked
about this before, but I find it hard to believe
that a twenty year old Martin Luther King right now
would be if you would be hearing Ben Shapiro, you
know what I'm saying, like name dropped their quote. It's
not even hard to like learn about what he was about.
Like I'm sure you could extrapolate whatever you want from
(04:52):
like half listening to his speeches in the background while
you worked like I was doing on Monday. But like, yeah,
there's so much more than you know. The color blinds
like the single word they try to draw from, like
you know, I have a dream or whatever. Like literally
all it takes to turn on this thing. Okay, I
got this really crazy thing called YouTube. Go on there
(05:14):
and you google. In the YouTube, I hear the kids
say for his name and it will give you a
bunch of speeches where you can actually hear the ship.
He said, It's like so like it's not even hard.
It's like zero intellectual curiosity from the like you don't
even you don't even google it to see, like I don't.
(05:37):
I don't think that. I don't think that it's like
a lack of wanting to know or anything like that.
I think that's the point of it. I mean, it's
a reason why you know, the conservatives are quick to
drop the I have a dream speech, you know, from
Martin Luther King, but then behind the scenes, you know,
a lot of the you know, the components of these
(05:58):
anti CRT I just lay is to make the letter
from Birmingham like bann and that they can't teach that
or teach any other aspect of what he said, you know,
as if like all of Martin Luther King's involvement in
the civil rights movement was I think, you know, judge,
judge somebody by the content of their character and not
(06:19):
by the you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty
sure he said more and even even that, I'm sure
there was like there was a context to it that
I don't think a lot of these right wingers are
using in good faith. But I mean, you're right, Martin
Luther King was a brother who was giving it to everybody,
and you know, I'm saying he was not having it.
So definitely a lot of the moderates who who think
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that they're down with m okay probably wouldn't be now.
But you know, I think it goes without saying that
Martin Luther King, we're here to defend himself. Like there's
no way that you know, the Laura Ingram's and Bill o'
radley's of the world would think to to name drop
of if he was here to get on the TV
(07:03):
and be like, yo, don't don't don't met you by day.
I'm not gonna say I like, it's you know, it's
funked up that he got assassinated as ship. But what
I will say is that I have also been you know,
y'all on the show here we talk a lot about
like liberation movement history that I staid, And so I've
recently been reading Elaine Brown's autobiography. She was the only
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female um like chairperson of the Black Panther Party and
so in studying just like learning more about her and
her role in the Black Panther Party and what she
did afterwards. I watched some interviews with her recently, and
it's bad. She is not cool anymore. And then do
you think about I mean, she's just like, well, first
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of all, there's no like ideological coherence to like the
thing she says. Like. I saw this one interview where
she was like, to fund the like no, literally, so
she starts, she opens the interview say, back in the day,
we used to talk about often the pigs and that
was a great slogan. Let's bring that back, okay, And
then literally later on was critiquing I guess the young
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people she was talking to, saying to fund the police
has gone too far, and y'all are like, y'all need
to get out and talk to more black people because
black people don't really want to fund the police. So
it's just like and then she gets on this rant
about pronouns and it's like the language police. And so
I said to say, a lot of our leaders who
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we still have today didn't really keep up with the
radical spirit they engendered as young people, you know, talking
about Aldredge clever, fucking I don't know even to a
degree John Lewis with like, you know, didn't always hold
it down for for quite everything, but uh so I
feel like it would have been uh I don't know,
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it would be interesting to see what it was, what
it would be like if folks like mL Hey and
Malcolm X were like here today, what positions they would
hold today. Yeah, I mean, you're right, but I mean
it's like again, I just I just know that they
used to call the brother communists, you know, like even
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even before there was any they you know, they used
to call him communists without even any understanding of whether
or not he actually was a problem. That's never been true.
It's never not been the case. But I'm just saying,
like again, with that said a twenty year old, a
twenty year old race and socially conscious communists, you know
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what I'm saying, Like, there's no there's there's no way
any of them are like or giving him any sort
of props for anything anything period. Well we give you
and then oh I'm sorry, sorry, you know this this
year was fell on m LK Day, but my birthday,
I mean, because usually it doesn't, you know, I'm about
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to ask, like, how does it feel every single year
was like it was a there was a point and
there was like a point in time I remember where
like whenever I would share with people like the other
famous people who have my birthday, because there's a there's
a couple of other cats who do have a birthday.
I think me and Michelle Obama share the same birthday.
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Jim Carey has the birthday. Um, I think like Kid Rock,
Muhammad Ali or something like that, you know what I mean,
Like I got I sure a birthday was you know,
not Kid Rock, but I sure birthday with some cool cats.
There's some famous cats. And I remember for a long
time there was a period whenever I would tell people that, like, oh,
this famous person have my birthday, I would always just
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include M LK in that because I thought that his
birthday was on my birthday. And then I think, I
don't understand that Monday was not his birthday. I kind
of that I've coped. I'm gonna lie to you. So
what is it? It's like, what is the like what
the big third Monday in uh in January? Yeah, and
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so it's like near his birthday, but like they keep
the date the same day. Okay, yeah, alright, that makes sense. Well,
ship I mean, yeah, props to him, Pat myself. Happy birthday, bitch.
I've fared when I was when I was a younger man,
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you know, when I wasn't expecting sorry, they weren't expecting
black men to live past the sex. Look at you,
you're almost older than Okay was when he got domed.
Oh ship, I don't even want to think about that ship.
Oh God. Anyway, anyway, what are we getting into. We
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got a little bit everything. We're gonna talk a little
bit about young Dolph uh and uh, a little bit
of that um tragedy and controversy, Kanye doing Kanye Uh.
We're gonna talk a little bit about going on Russia Ukraine.
So a little bit of everything, and we will be
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right back with that after we take a little break.
All right, So we are back. So what's the first
story to um? So, I'm sure most listeners know about
the death of young Dolph? Um he how long ago
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was this that? Actually I should have pulled up pause,
maybe like a month and a half pause and pull
up actual some source on this, so I don't sunk
up the details. It was November seventeen, alright, Okay, So,
um So, Young Dolph uh was a was the Tennessee
Bass I fucking forget everything. Yeah yeah, Memphis, let me
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try this game. So um, as I'm sure listeners are
already aware, Memphis based rapper Young Dolf was shot and
killed on November seventeenth of last year. Um he you know,
had peaked number thirty five on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
was coming up in the game and struck down in
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his prime. But then last week his one of his
suspected killer's who was wanted by the police, dropped a
new song. On the day that he also announced that
he would be turning himself into the authorities and was
later arrested. So this other Memphis rapper named straight Drop,
also known as twenty three year old Justin Johnson dropping
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a music video for his new song track Hawk, and
then the next day was apprehended by US Marshalls in
Indiana and charged with first degree murder. The weekend prior,
Straight Drop posted a message on his Instagram story on
which he said he was gonna be turning himself on
in on Monday. He was innocent and he'd be back soon.
But we'll see about that as he is now in
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UH police custody and because clearly not really been taking
this situation too seriously. Too seriously well, I mean, so
I'm very curious as to what your reaction. Man, I
really you know what I want of those people, as
you know, again, listen to the show notes that always
tries to find the systemic and underlying causes of a
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lot of just funked up ship that happens, because I
think I ultimately have to uproot that in order to
change situations. Right, But I've been recently encountering a lot
of examples where people just do dumb shit and like
hal and I'm having to face the fact of first
of all, like you can't evade discussions of public personal
responsibility forever. Like this nigga decided, like you know, people
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was looking for him, and maybe he was like getting
a little acclaimed. Those folks knew he was a suspect,
and I wanted to ride that to like fucking news
a video like I mean, look again, you know, going
off of the words of it. It's always weird with
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these stories because it's like, all right, so dudes being
accused by the cops and I don't want to, you know,
but I meanly allegedly shot allegedly, but again, you know,
a lot of this it's it's it's consistent and it
makes sense. I don't know if it's a generational thing
or what. I don't know. It's a social media driven
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sort of thing. Again, I don't know, but God didn't
we want to talk about not having sources. I forget
the name of the rapper, but just a couple of
weeks ago, another you know, similar situation with a young
New York rapper who they've got him on camera, you know,
or allegedly I'll say, on camera it definitely looks like him,
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but committing a murder and then later on the same day,
like flexing on Instagram in the same design, in the
same designer gear that he just committed a murder that
was in broad daylight in the middle of the street,
that like, you know, and it's almost as if there's
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like no like understanding that it's like, yo, I'm on
camera and yeah, I mean I recently, I think I
mentioned in a recent episode that I went and spoke
at a bond hearing for a local rapper and friend,
like loose friend that we've been was charged with the
attempted murder and spoke on like the stuff he's done
the community, for the kids, And then the prosecution in
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the cross examination purely focused on the fact that after
the shooting happened, like the next day, this cat dropped
a music video called who Shot at Me? Where he's
talking about I'm gonna find you and feel you and
ship and like flashing guns in the video. And so
was his bond hearing of like what should we at
this guy back on the streets, And they were grilling
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me on like did you see this music video? Did
you see him with like the gun? And the music
video he said, did you hear the part where he
says he's gonna go shoot shoot these people? And I
had to be like yeah, but like but ultimately like
it doesn't I mean, I felt like it doesn't discredit
what I have seen him do in the community. Also
knowing that a lot of these people, like I talked
to him all earlier today he was like, yo, if
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don cheatle like like directed a film that's all about
this murder, this mass murder, and he's in the film
murdering people. Can you put him on And then later
he murdered someone. Can you put him on the stand
and say that, like oh you had the murder movie
like that, Like, yo, you definitely did the murder Like no,
it's art And that was his argument, like yo, like
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I had to like show up and look tough because
I wasn't gonna people fun with me, etcetera. Like and
that kind of makes sense. But I think to a
different level, I want to agree with you though, it's
like there is a certain sense of like, don't do
that what you do? Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's
like it's you know, there's I guess at some points
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that can kind of be a fine line between um,
you know, we always want to look at the macro
reasons for why things happen and for why people do
the things that they do so well, you know, we
want to like analyze the structures and stuff and understand
that ship doesn't just like boil down as simple to
pull your bootstraps up. And you know what I mean
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personal responsibility not like not everything fits into that box,
you know what I'm saying. So that there there's that
on one hand, and then there's the also you know,
like man on like a common sense aspect. You know,
there's there's right, and there's rob you know what I'm saying,
and like, I don't I don't think that that there
has to be like necessarily like a conflict in understanding
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one thing and like or like performing performing one of
those like ways of a understanding the world and the
other you know, I think that you can still like
look at the bigger picture as to why people do
the things that they do, and why people feel that
they're in the situations they're in and things like that,
and then also recognize that people make choices. Yeah, people,
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And for me, it's really been casting me to reflect.
A third thing that really got me thinking about this
lately is that it's snowed here on Sunday. This snow
hasn't been so it's down here on Sunday. Really really
cuteby was posted and they agnore me picks with their
dirty snow men and they're cute toddlers like snow Nancy um.
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And so I worked with some like local like homeless
advocates to like get some people some hotel rooms that
were like sleeping outside, and that was great. Got a
lot of people have a cold, great, So we were
looking at extending their stays for like like past when
the cold, you know, the past when the snow belts
or whatever, because we had we had the fun to
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do so. But some of these cats got fucking kicked
out of the hotels smoking inside. So one of them
brought a dog, and it was just like god, damn
it fuck. But so it really it really caused me
to pause and reflect on like because I often talk
about like the roads to quote unquote collective liberation and
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how like the generations long struggle and like it's gonna
outlast us. You know, it's gonna you know, the next
generation is gonna go and finish the job. But like
that sounds really optimistic and rosie, but like that's the
case because things are gonna keep sucking up on the
way they're like you can get somebody stable shelter and
they could get themselves kicked out because they're smoking. Because
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like if you have your whole life getting shipped on
and beat down, like a single day of a kind
act or even a year of like support to stop
sucking up, like is not even enough to help someone
really really get out of it. Like you know that
cat you saw in the video who like murder or
the guy on camera, and then it was like wilding out,
like a lot of stuff led him to that point,
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and it would require a whole whole whole lot of
ship to like transform the underlying conditions that created to
put him in a spot where he thought this was
a good fucking idea. Right, Like people are gonna like,
we're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting, and people
are kind of keep sucking up because it's gonna take
a really like if we're really serious about like fixing
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a lot of problems in society, like it's he gonna
take a real long time because the weird dealing with real,
real bad ship. That's that's true. But again I'm gonna
I hate playing Devil's advocate in these situations. But again,
you know, if somebody wants to be like yo, young
such and such rapper grabbed the bank and then was
(21:48):
like flexing on Instagram and didn't understand the blah blah
blah or like young whatever rapper got into a fight
with some cops of blah blah blah blah blah, then
I mean for me personally, it's like then I could,
I guess can be more comfortable looking at it in
those terms. And ship like that, when we're talking about ship,
like you shot somebody like a randy, you know, some
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rando outside of a vodega. It's like there's nothing like
I don't feel that I'm like serving any community at
large by like coverage someone like that, like funk that guy. Honestly,
it's like, yeah, there's a level of personal responsibility to it,
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and so honestly unpopular take I have on these things
sometimes and I talked to other activists about this. I mean,
it goes back to what Frederick Douglas said about it's
easier to build strong children than repair broken men, and
so want to talk about like transformer society. Honestly, I'm
not only talking about helping that dude that like shot
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somebody on camera, Like when you get to that point,
Like I don't want to say people are irredeemable. I
stually believe that with a significant investment of resources and
time to help people like that, they can get better.
But like, honestly, it's so like it would be probably
be a lot easier just to make sure if people
don't even end up there, Like let's get the kids.
I focus so much on new development. Get the kids,
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get them healthy and like you know, ready for adulthood
and making good choices and then in like twenty years,
we won't have these kind of problems. I mean, I
just try to keep it consistent, you know, so for
me personally, you know what I mean. So it's like
if I'm looking at the news and it's like, yo,
crazy white boy went crazy and took his gun and
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shot blah blah blah blah. You can give me whatever
reasons you want. I don't care, you know what I mean.
I don't. I don't. I don't care why I don't care.
Like there's there's nothing that anyone's gonna say that's gonna
make me like, oh, you know, but I guess you
know what I'm saying. So if you want to so,
I'm just I'm not gonna like hear like YO, such
and such rapper, you know, like shot just or gotten
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to a scuffle and thought or went to a don't
you know, I mean like Young Dolph got shot in
the back of the doing a shop. You know what
I mean. By Google's acting like they were in a mob,
you know what I mean, And like allegedly motherfucker's just
dropping singles like afterwards. So it's just like that whole thing.
It's just like it's a level of fuckory that I
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personally feel like, you know, you know, like hey man,
that there's no there's no place for that. There's really
nothing to cover up. What's different between like my approach
and maybe a lot of other people that have that
reaction because also it's like, yeah, this person needs to
help account held accountable. Our system for that right now
is jail. Sick you did it, and now you're going
(24:42):
to jail. But like a sense of curiosity about how
somebody got to that point, because even if it's like
there's something we can do for you, we can learn
from that of like how the fund do you end
up at the point where you shoot somebody in the
back of the doughnut shop? Yeah, And which is why
I solely mean that. It's like like like I feel
like it's a discussion like that. I feel like you
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can still look at the situation be like oh, such
and such, such and such. There is a lot, like
you said, intellectual curiosity. There's a lot to be gained
by understanding why that person was, you know what I
mean in that situation. But like that's a conversation for
like outside people to have, like people who are looking
at it like from an intellectual, you know, analytical standpoint
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and stuff. The people who are involved in the ship
are gonna look at the ship like the people who
are involved the ship like either you're directly involved, Hey
my cousin, my my brother, my sister was killed, you know,
or you know, I know the people who were the
victim of that, and you're gonna react accordingly. So all
I'm saying is it's like if there are people if
if the d A's like, hey, such and such is
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accused of a crime, and then we have them on
tape talking about crimes. So of course they're going to
use that at that is what I'm saying. It seems
like they would, whether it's fair or unfair. I don't
necessarily think that, like the don Cheatle example is like
necessarily like fair because you've got to add some caveats
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into it. If it's like, oh Jane made a movie
that was like if I had done it, you know
what I'm saying, and then you and then they wanted
to use that movie as evidence, I don't think I
would be saying no, you can't, you can't. I want
to use example. Well, two things I want to say
quick first to respond to that point and then respond
(26:34):
to earlier point. So, Luis c. K had jokes in
his stand up about masturbating in front of people that
didn't want to watch, and everybody laughed and once I
was uncomfortable, and then they moved on, and then he
actually later really did it, and so like y'all like
so but that you know, but there's a disconnect and like, oh,
(26:56):
you see something like that in a comedy special, you
might think is a little weird, but you move on.
You don't like go home and call the police, and like, hey,
I think Louis K is like sexually harassing people, you know, like,
but gets excused from it because there art is. You know,
they're millionaires. And and I'm gonna keep it consistent and
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say that that shouldn't be the case, you know what
I mean, Like, in my personal opinion, that shouldn't be
the case if I don't and I don't necessarily know
the full details of how it went down and shipped
like that. But if if person X is a Louis c.
K fan and then somebody says, oh, Luisy K did
X to me, even if you're a fan, you're like, oh,
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I don't believe that. I like Louis k and then
you got him on tape talking about, oh I like
to do this, I like to do this. I think
it opens up you know. I mean I don't think
that that that that that's like uh, you know, causing
a factor or like oh that means that that person
did that. But I mean, if you want to bring
that into the discussion, I don't see why not, you
know what I mean, if somebody like Louisy Kay did
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this to me, look at these tapes where he's talking
about it, maybe that was a great example, like you know,
I know, but I don't know. I think I think
it was a good example. All I'm saying is that
I'm just and again I can only speak for myself.
It is like I agree with you. I just try
to keep that energy because like I don't like asking
people to do stuff that I know I wouldn't do,
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you know what I'm saying. So I know that if
I were personally involved in some of these situations, I
wouldn't be able to look at it outside of that
personal you know, like like impact zone of how it
affects me and ship like that. So if it's my
community if it's my my family member, my friend or
something like that, I'm gonna have like more of a
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like I'm just not gonna be as understanding of these
like bigger micro macro issues and like that. So I'm
just I'm just more understanding when when people are The
second thing I wanted to respond to is you said
that that what I'm talking about is an intellectual exercise
that is done by folks that aren't impacted by violence.
And I want to remind you the listeners that I like,
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I don't like, I don't mean to bring it to
bring the energy down real quick, but like I like
started thinking about the ship when my fucking I got
murdered man, and like I was like everybody was like,
oh she get the death penalty, da, And like I
literally can look at my family and be like, I
this mom, this dude's mom as bipolar disorders, addicted to crack.
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Like he grew up in the middle of nowhere, only
options go to military where he learned how to fucking
use a bunch of fancy guns and grenades, and ship
came out and of course he fucking killed somebody. And
so I was like, oh, I could like see the
background of this person's life that led them to become
a murderer. And so I've been saying, like, you know,
it is probably rare. I mean, like my opinion is
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very very much not of the majority or whatever, but
like there's a lot of people impacted by violence who
who because they are they lose a loved one or
you know, to incarceration or violence stuff whatever. I can
see the backwards, like you know, the bread crumbs of
like how it should ended up the way it was.
And I definitely don't mean like it's it's only it's
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reserved for people who aren't impacted by violence. I just meant,
like on a case to case basis, based on how
it like personally affects you as all. It's all I bad,
you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's a
it's a difficult it's a difficult conversation and it's definitely
a difficult topic that everybody. Everybody's going to have a
(30:33):
different reaction to. All I'm saying is I just I
just personally I understand it. I understand why not everybody
tries to have or why everybody likes I understand why
not everybody can easily jump into that proper analytical phase
of talking about this. People know that people, people understand,
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people know what they're where all the time, understand but
it's just hard to like then channel into like a
direction where you understand what needs to change through it. Like,
so don't link all that together. But so I had
a story that came up, um that I wanted to
run by you. That's kind kind of related to, you know,
(31:18):
changing systems and stuff like that. I don't know if
you saw this viral video, but the Sunrise Police Department
in Florida is probing a sergeant who allegedly I mean,
I gotta say allegedly, right, but I mean the sis'll
tape I saw that they could do anyway they had.
They had a suspect that was had a It was
a you know, white officer, black male suspect was in
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the back seat of the patrol car handcuff. They're the
this veteran officer of twenty one years, giant, big dude.
He apparently came in the tape that was released. The
sound and audio was was out, so you couldn't hear
what was being said, but this was confirmed by the
police chief later on. He came into the scene. He
escalated the situation and then he pulled out his pepper
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spray and was getting ready to spray the handcuffs suspect
in the back seat, and a newer female officer like
immediately grabbed him by the belt and pulled him away
from the suspect, and he immediately grabbed her by the
neck and slammed her and gets the car in front
of all of her colleague. Um, he's been he's been
(32:31):
placed on i think nonpaid administrative leave and and in this,
in this regards to, you know, the props of the chief,
the chief of that particular precinct has come out and
it has been like, yo, she did the right thing.
This is a disgusting So I don't you know, I
don't think they're but it's really it's really blatant and
really obvious. I mean, he he grabbed like his first
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instinct is to grab her by her throat, you know
what I'm saying. And he's like a giant dude and
she's like a regular sized woman. And it's just like
it looked like he's kind of used to grabbing women
by the people. And I always trying to tell me
when like I'm on my ship, you know, I'm on
one about shit. Like, oh well, people always use these
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like stories from other places to like say we need
to make change here. We don't really have these problems here.
But like, first of all, these always different police departments
get the same kind of go to the same kinds
of conferences, get the same kinds of training. There we
have we have, you know, the police, the police chief
of one city will go to another city, or or
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a police officer get fired from one city and got
another city. A couple of years ago, we had this
dude that like ran like a suspect over with his car,
didn't even know if it was the right dude, and
like got fired and just went to the next county
over and he um and and they could fucking suit
(33:58):
the county for wrongful dismissal and defamation for saying that
he shouldn't have hit the guy and got like like
half a million dollars. But anyway, that's beside the point,
although I do want to use that to explain that
um the Athens Clark County police chief announced today that
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he is leaving and explains that I have no comment
on the matter because I you know, how like okay,
you know, how like you can't give a negative reference
for an employee, like it's it's illegal. A lot of
places like you either like just don't do it, or
you have to say something positive or it's like defamation
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or something. Yeah, so you can't. You your old boss
can would be like so I'm just gonna say that
and leave it at that. But anyway, so yeah, so
you get like police officers that go to different precincts,
go to different places. You get this these national trainings
that all of them go to and come back to you.
So it's like a like a national only systemic thing
as well as the kind of people that want to
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get into law enforcement. And so that ship is wild.
That ship, that ship is just wild. I mean, that's crazy. Well,
I mean we we were just talking about personal responsibility
and people inexplicably doing things on camera and on social
media that are like inexplicable. But I don't know, it
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must be you know, maybe maybe somebody way smarter than
me is most likely analyzing this ship. But there's gotta
be some sort of terminology for the phenomenon and still
doing it. Anyway, First of all, too many fucking cops
do that ship? Too many teenagers do that ship. Let's
keep it real. Too many girlfriends just going to not
(35:47):
not paying attention to that. Um what else you got?
The sucking the people who stormed the capitol? Do you
know how many people storm the capital and the next
day called the lost and found to say that they
lost ship inside FBI? How can I help you? Oh
you left your bear miss and Nancy Pelosi's checks are
you real quick? And they put you on hold and
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it's like knock, knock, knock, it's a swat team. It's
thrown smoked maid in the house. And people are on
live streams like in the middle of riding like, oh, dude,
I just got in a fight with some cops. That
ship was dope, son, Yeah, man, we bear mass this
one cop. He's on the ground. He was bleeding as
this is. That's and then like interested, they're like, oh,
how did you guys catch me? Like I will also
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say that pretends to the earlier debate, Um, they didn't
touch fun. A lot of folks that do wild shit
like this, not all of them, but particularly time where
it's like a shot yesterday ha ha. Like even if
they don't express it. They express a lot of bracketdocio. Yeah,
and the ship. There is a mindset of disposability that
people have where it's like my life doesn't mean ship anyway. No,
(36:53):
Like everybody, fucking like the whole system thinks I'm worthless,
So why don't not fucking shoot a guy on a camera?
Like everybody goes to jail, Like everyone thinks I'm gonna
do something like that anyway. Fuck it. So back to
that a little bit, not to excuse that not you know,
it's personal, personal choice ultimately, but like another part of
(37:13):
like understanding how we fucking get here in the first place,
where you're shooting a cat in the back of the
head and don't not shut well, I mean, what do
you think of that? What do you what do you
think about the notion of It's like, yeah, it's a
personal choice. It's just I don't think I think that
we can have an opinion of whether or not it's
a good choice or not, you know, I mean, or
another or whether or another right choice. Like I mean,
(37:33):
not that you're saying that we shouldn't, but you know
that's why it's like I always I feel, I feel,
I always feel like a sense of conflict on on
these sort of topics just because you know, my father
worked for the State Department when I was a kid.
I've yeah, I've got family and law enforcement and ship
like that, so I know i'd always you don't want
(37:54):
to give full disclosure, you know, I definitely have that
sort of you know, connection or indirect connection or whatever
you want to call it to these things. So it's
like just to before we move on, just to stress.
I just I always just try to like put myself
in other people's shoes just for the merely for nothing
(38:15):
other than just the exercise of understanding where other people
are coming from, you know what I mean. So it's
like I understand why some people perhaps may have like
a bit more lead more right on these certain issues
than perhaps I do, you know personally, you know what
I'm saying. And I just I just feel like like
(38:37):
like having like having that understanding and not just necessarily
assuming that it's because they're a ship, live or right
wing or you know what I mean, is helpful in
the discose. Yeah, yeah, I would love to understand the
underlying conditions that brought this cop in Sunrise, Florida to
just like be so aggro that he not only bear
(39:00):
Mason's handcuff suspect, but choked his visit fellow officer. Officer, Like, bro,
how do you guess at that point, like it really
looked like some you know, roid rage because he's like
a jack up juice stuff. Do you know what I mean?
It looked like some roid rage type of like unstable
ship for a twenty one year vet. So I mean,
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I'm just saying, public defenders, any case that this dude
has worked, I need to read this. I'll need to
re examine that ship, bro, Like tomorrow, it's gotta another
story I think we got. I was gonna think you
think we should just do one more? Yeah we can, Yeah,
(39:42):
we can do this. So back to wondering how the
fund did people get in the situation that they're in
perpetual ship get in her Kanye West is going to
Russia to me with Vladimir Putin so UM. On Tuesday,
January Levin, Billboard reported that Yea I planned on going
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to Moscow to meet with the Russian President and hold
multiple Sunday services UM as its first ever shows in
the country of Russia. As ultimate purpose for the trip,
Um was to begin expanding his businesses overseas, and an
advisor to Kanye told Billboard that um Russia is going
to be a second home for Kanye, which I'm sure
(40:24):
the libs are absolutely losing their mind about, or they
or I could see if the white people, if the
white ones even knew this was happening, they probably don't
follow music news. If they found out, they probably completely
lose their minds because of Russia Gate, Wold Trump Russia ship,
Uh that people still, you know, I think frequently, and
I believe I've discussed this on the show before, whether
(40:46):
the Russia Gate hysteria opened the door for challenging election
integrity and ultimately what happened on January six, I don't think.
I mean, I hate, I can get another topic that's
going to force me to be so one on the
side of the lives. But I don't know. I'm not
necessarily I would not classify myself as being in on
(41:08):
Russia Gate hysteria or whatever whatever, but I tend to be.
You know, if it looks like a duck and it
quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck, you know
what I mean. So like, if if motherfucker's is like
having clandestine meetings and hotels and this and that, and
wild motherfucker's is going to jail for lying to this
and lying to that. And then every time they're accused,
(41:31):
their number one thing is you don't have the evidence
to prove that, as opposed to saying no, I didn't
do it. I'm just not inclined to think that they're innocent,
you know. So that that's just that's just the basis
of how I going Now, however else this wants to manifest.
You know, I don't necessarily think having that view means
that you want world War three with Russia tomorrow, you know.
(41:54):
But with the Kanye situation, it's just interesting because it's like,
you know, there's there's like some pretty fucked up homophobic
laws that are like in the book in Russia. Bro. Yeah,
the U. S. Department like they currently lest Russia with
like a level four do not travel advisory given terrorism,
(42:17):
harassment by Russian government security officials, arbitrary enforcement of local
laws you and Russia's on the brink of invading or like.
So yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like I I um, yeah,
(42:38):
the whole that's weird. It's again it's it's Kanye, So
you know, weird goes in the book with it. But
it's just another addition onto this like right wing drift
in this like plausibly deniable right wing fascist ship culturally
that's going on in this country that I think, you know,
wittingly or unwittingly, sir, celebrity figures are playing into. And
(43:03):
I think that's what this is because because to me,
it's like that's always you know, for the last like
five six, seven years, that's always been like my suspicion
of what the Republican infatuation is with Russia. Now, you
know what I'm saying, which is why I just I
don't care what lives are saying. Yeah, I really don't.
I'm looking at what Republicans are doing and what they're
(43:25):
saying themselves, you know what I mean. So if if
when I if like when I was in like early college,
if Republicans were like itching at the bit, like we
hate Russia, we hate it, we hate it, we hate it,
and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, no,
we love Russia and Russia is awesome. No, it's great,
we love it. Yeah, No, Putin would be a better
president than an American president blah blah, we love it.
I don't know, I'm just not inclined to look at
(43:47):
that and be like mm hmm, I can't stand Hill
reclap like no, no, I mean, like I'm I just
feel like there has to be a line somewhere because
like I mean, I've seen this one left. We talk
about this in the to Turn this election. You see
this to this day with like Bernie Sanders supporters said
the election was stolen, like when you let that, like,
I feel like sometimes when narratives like that are allowed
(44:09):
to flourish, like they are taken up and when even
when they are legitimate and but people kind of run
away with them, like it does open up like this
grounds on which you can contest any kind of flaw,
you know, like actually any sort of working of democracy
as such that you don't whose outcomes you don't like.
(44:33):
But do you think that this is not similar to
the like argument about the you know, the filibuster thinks
exactly the Republicans saying the Democrats loved the filibuster, butant
we were in power now they hate it, and it's like, yeah,
well fuck you got. I don't know, they like if
you don't have some consistency, they'll call you out. But
(44:55):
I think again, it's just a matter of like whether
you think Republicans are operating in good faith or not. So,
you know, I mean, and like, so for somebody who
doesn't believe so, for somebody who genuinely believes that, hey,
Republicans would not be talking about the election is stolen.
The election is stolen if people hadn't brought up Russia
(45:18):
Gate and that hadn't been a big story. If somebody
believes that, then I understand totally why you know, you
would look at like Russia Gate with this like skeptical
like sort of thing. I don't believe that. I think
the Republicans are gonna like link between Russia Gate and
January six. I'm saying, like over and over again, there's
there are these competing tensions between factions where like when
(45:40):
you lose, you say they cheated, Like no one ever
fucking just loses because they sucked. They just lose because
the other people cheated. Um, and so like I don't know,
I mean, also coming from someone that thinks that the
Left needs to play dirtier because other motherfucker's area are
willing to cheat. Yeah, it's like like the Republicans are
(46:05):
just they are willing to do what they feel they
need to do to attain power, and they are not
concerned with what Democrats are going to do or not do.
This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
I here's here's what I'm saying. If the Democrats don't
(46:26):
break the filibuster, the Republicans will the same way. We're
like pussyfooting about with the Supreme Court. No, we don't
know if we want to do the Supreme Court. No,
maybe I should. We shouldn't push this issue for this
person to retire so that their slack can get filled,
because oh, we don't know. That's all assuming that the
Republicans aren't gonna be craving when they get the opportunity
(46:47):
to you know. So it's all projections. So if if
we if we funk around, like not believing them when
they say the ship that they're gonna that they're gonna do,
and the ship that they're into, like the election, you know,
election to disputes. I think that that was coming regardless
because they were disputing the election in before any like
(47:07):
before anybody was really talking about Russia before the elect
before election even happened, they were talking saying, oh, it's stolen,
you know. So I I look at that sort of
thing that was always going to be a part of
their playbook, and that they don't need any excuse, you know,
you know what I mean, like us being like like
people who are on the left being like, oh, man,
the January six writers need to be held accountable. The
(47:30):
state needs to come after the We can have whatever
objections that we have with it, but I don't think
that one of those objections should be. Man, you know
what if we keep pushing for the state to go
after the January six rioters, then the Republicans are gonna
come after us the next time that we have a
BLF march, like like they're gonna, you know, like the
(47:52):
minute that they get the minute again. They had unmarked
black van snatching people off the streets, but they had power.
I don't think you need you even need to say
more about that. There was no conservative voice, there was
no speed free speech warrior, none of them had any
objection to it. You didn't hear Joe rogan sation about oh,
(48:14):
why are they snatching these protesters off the street with
fucking ice agents from Texas that were in Portland for
some strange reason. Why is that happening? Why Why are
unidentified a jack booted thugs snatching demonstrated on the street.
They didn't give a funk about that ship when it
was happening, the Antifa guys, so they're they're ready there
with the ships. They're ready to use the state to crush,
(48:36):
to crush the scent, you know what I mean. And
if if if Democrats keep going with ship, assuming whether
it's Democrats or whether it's like people who are more radical,
you know what I mean, If you assume that the
Republicans are playing the game the way that we are,
I just think that's how we lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry. I didn't mean. You just got me thinking
(48:57):
about using the state to crush people. Perhaps closing, I
will circle back around to this particular quote that stuck
out to me from an MLK speech I listened to
on Monday. It was the speech at the National Conference
on New Politics in Chicago, and MLK said, I think
it might be a little flight paraphrase, but more or less,
um is poverty and unemployment rages in the black ghetto.
(49:20):
The bipartisan responses, an anti riot bill instead of an
anti poverty program. And it just really hit me because
literally last week I was talking about the police chief
quick this week, well last week it was mentioned last
episode I had some choice awards for him at the
meeting where I was like, I don't really want to
talk to you. I don't really trust you, you know,
bah bah bah, because in that meeting, you know, in
(49:43):
response for a year, for years now, decades now, even
you know, the black community has been calling for investment
in our people, and you know BLM, you know, the
uprising was all about that, all about that, and here
we are about a year and a half later, and
their responses, Well, people didn't like that we use tear
(50:05):
gas on the protesters, so we bought a sound cannon
to blow their ear drums out and give them permanent
neurological damage. Um oh, and can we also give every
police officer a tactical rifle? So like literally today we're
still doing it. And like this is the bipartisan response.
It's not just like the right wing. Note like I
(50:27):
don't even say, like I don't even want to say
like democrats like want to use the state to crush
the scent, but like they certainly let it happen. Like
there's Democrats sitting in this commission meeting, like tactical rifles
forever bloy not blest, sound cannon blow out people's ear drums.
I well, you know, okay, sure, I don't know, like
why not? So yeah, I know you're oncent correct about
(50:51):
that ship. I don't know what it's gonna take, but
we gotta snap out of it somehow, Like you know,
it's it's really disappointing to hear that everything. You didn't
tell that story. You told that story last week, and
it was disappointing to hear because it's like the thing
after all of that marching and all of that demonstrating
(51:12):
and organizing, that a year and a half later, we're
talking about tear gas and chow colds. You know what
I'm saying. That's that's that's the change, that's the that's
the that's the that's the that's the systemic you know,
issues that were like you can't not like nothing gets done.
(51:33):
Just that's not like oh, politicians are just inspired and
go fight for ship. They fight for ship. They realized
they gotta do ship. They're forced to do ship by
like the masses of people organized and so like a
lot of people woke the funk up and they're like, oh,
ship changinging, make me like light bulbs going off everywhere,
and like that's not going, that's not you can't put
that cab back in the bag. And so yes, we
(51:53):
have not seen like in a substantive way, all of
that organizing and marching and getting you know, thrown to
the ground and Mason shipped like bear fruit. But those people,
those millions of people like dy an't go that cat
ain't going back in the bag. Tell you some now,
that's what's gonna get interesting. But you know, here we
are today. All we can do is um, keep hope
(52:19):
alive and spit bars. I was gonna try to make
it rhyme and make a bar out of it. I
was gonna say, like, keep hope alive and slap it
on the black hand side or something like that. I
don't know. Let's get you some real beats, real bars,
Joe Mariah said, piece and bars like go hard in
(52:41):
the paint and my roots is far Jeff Jarrett on
these rappers like a cheap guitar. I came up in
the flames and I keep the scars, but don't Missy
exceptly just one year old. They've been nice with the
flow sest the day kissed roll Up, but it got
me pissed. I watched Foxes, cannot be it. Keep m
ok Coast all about your Nazi lips. They try hard,
but it's nonsense. Reparations give us five stars in the
(53:02):
comment towards me, and I'll take a step backwards because
I don't buy my hate this and what the fucking
hats so I asked to let past it and bet
about it. I'm passive, but that don't mean that I
am a cowward like Martin lu Mahatma Gandhi. I used
my words to set on my comflicts rather than try
to shoot you be cool Brooks around the stampasac than
to rock and a rather understanding did. I never haven't
tried to Yo yo, yo yo. My name is Dope
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